Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yeah but how did this uneducated simpleton ex-convict wind up in Britain with a forged Canadian passport unless he had aid from others? On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Joseph Catron jncat...@gmail.com wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Hunter Gray hunterbadb...@hunterbear.orgwrote: Although I tend to be very skeptical of conspiracy stuff,, I have never been able to buy the idea that a lone redneck bigot from Missouri would have the single-minded passion to do that which he did; or, holding such passion, would be able to put together such a complex and intricate scheme by himself. This strikes me as very nearly identical to the implicit assumption in much 9/11 conspiracy theory: that such a plot could not possibly be hatched by a bunch of stupid Arab Muslims, some of whom even live in caves. Your very slight revision to this familiar refrain is problematic in similar ways, and probably wrong for the same reasons. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/tomcod3%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The best book on the King assination is William Pepper. An Act Of State: The Execution of Martin Luther King, 2003. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Hunter Gray hunterbadb...@hunterbear.orgwrote: Although I tend to be very skeptical of conspiracy stuff,, I have never been able to buy the idea that a lone redneck bigot from Missouri would have the single-minded passion to do that which he did; or, holding such passion, would be able to put together such a complex and intricate scheme by himself. This strikes me as very nearly identical to the implicit assumption in much 9/11 conspiracy theory: that such a plot could not possibly be hatched by a bunch of stupid Arab Muslims, some of whom even live in caves. Your very slight revision to this familiar refrain is problematic in similar ways, and probably wrong for the same reasons. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Apr 4, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Joseph Catron wrote: This strikes me as very nearly identical to the implicit assumption in much 9/11 conspiracy theory: that such a plot could not possibly be hatched by a bunch of stupid Arab Muslims, some of whom even live in caves. Okay, now explain how a bunch of Arabs, in caves or in sky-high towers, whether stupids or geniuses, managed to put the whole of the US air-security and air-defense systems out of operation on the morning of 11/09/01? Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed. Joe Stack (1956-2010) Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Okay, now explain how a bunch of Arabs, in caves or in sky-high towers, whether stupids or geniuses, managed to put the whole of the US air-security and air-defense systems out of operation on the morning of 11/09/01? SNAFUs or routine military bungling (which, believe me, abounds in the military) could account for that. A better question would be why NORAD's commander was promoted for his screwup. -- Libertarians are just Republicans who smoke pot. -- Jello Biafra. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Hunter's impulses on this are just spot on. I would add that Beckwith and other homicidal nut cases are trolling for acceptability to gentlemen who created a climate that hardly discouraged him or led him to think otherwise. He probably saw himself as the gutsiest of those who shared a collective mind set, but that's not a conspiracy As to 9-11 It's sad to note that every time something comes up, we get to here this brilliant idea that because there seems to be a conspiracy in one case (with different people in a different place and at a different time), there's one--or likely to be one in the other. I fine it hard to believe that anyone rational who thinks about it for more than a few seconds actually believes something this stupid... However, the alternative explanation is that they don't really believe something that stupid and are just saying it because they have absolutely no interest in maintaining a rational discussion of the issue that allegedly concerns them so much. And, btw, I am storry to say that this is precisely the same reaction I have to the conspiracy assertions of the teabaggers. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Mark Lause markala...@gmail.com wrote: It's sad to note that every time something comes up, we get to here this brilliant idea that because there seems to be a conspiracy in one case (with different people in a different place and at a different time), there's one--or likely to be one in the other. To which statements are you referring? I have never stated that there seems to be a conspiracy in either case. And the logic behind the two claims is virtually identical. -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Joseph Catron jncat...@gmail.com wrote: To which statements are you referring? I have never stated that there seems to be a conspiracy in either case. And the logic behind the two claims is virtually identical. For a materialist, the question is one of evidence not logic. Not that I even pretend to know what you mean by that...or what could possibly make the logic of a different event in a different place involving different people virtually identical. ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Remembering [Political Murders in Dixie]
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Mark Lause markala...@gmail.com wrote: For a materialist, the question is one of evidence not logic. What does that make you, seeing as how your last message started, Hunter's impulses on this are just spot on? -- Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
