Re: [Marxism] left
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == ...or we could just use the term in the sense of where we'd take our seats in the timeless and idealized national assembly... The problem is that whatever words we've used over the centuries, they are subject to being assimilated and coopted. We want justice, freedom, liberty, democracy, socialism, communism, anarchism, human rights, etc They won't give them to us or let us take them, but they'll be quite happy to redefine them and use them to us as a palliative for our discontent. This of it as capitalist empowerment Yeah, there's an app for that... ML Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Left communist News from Argentina (was: I have turned Danny K into a news star)
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Greg asks:Good article, from a French anarchist to a Argentine communist. what'snot to like? Boy, is that the right question at the right time about the “right” Argentine communism… What’s not to like? Well, for starters, yesterday a militant from the Partido Obrero of Argentina, Mariano Ferreyra, 23, has been murdered in an incident where there was a “scuffle” (i.e. a hunt) by the railroad union and the Juventud Peronista led by Hugo Moyano’s –the secretary general of the CGT- son. A mobilization by the FR left communist parties was set in order to support the railroad workers who had been fired and remain without secure contracts (“tercerizados”) and have been putting up a struggle for months. That this operation is linked to the whole ex-Duhaldist now Kirchnerist (you mean Kirchnerist as in Kirchner? The anti-imperialist couple who call for meetings of the anti-imperialist Unasur who facilitate anti-imperialist bases in Colombia? My my …) mafia is pretty much beyond doubt since the son of the transportation secretary had the good obscene sense of showing up with sheriff at the festivities. What’s not to like is that this comes as a signal of more of the same Peronist, or whatever you wanna call it, shit of making the workers war with themselves under the false hope for “popular national solutions” while in the meantime they keep selling out, in this case, the pension funds of retired people. As an inverted image of the wonderful protests in France, which the national socialist left (I’m not making the name up, this is how they prefer to call themselves) welcomes since Sarkozy is a bad bad neoliberal bourgeois as opposed to……, what we have in Argentina is a fight by the real defenders of the nation who kill the far left crazies so that the patriotic government can choose how best to sell the pensions, among other things, while they celebrate (and I’m not saying they are wrong to celebrate, it’s just a little vomitive when it comes from them) the French protests and pretend they’re all with French workers while they throw racist epithets against the piqueteros. Not blaming Gorojovsky here btw, just reporting what a post on his list says in CAPITAL letters. Moyano (look at me criticizing the revolutionary leader of the CGT who sent a letter of support for Correa, who has been in the CGT for decades, decades, like the decade of the 70’s, the decade where the CGT informed the dictatorship about crazy leftists and workers, see this guy is a true fighter against those who “objectively help our murderers”) has been doing everything in his power to break the struggles of the last years. That this occurred is “almost” ominous, but it comes when the Kirchner’s are feeling the pain of not having what to give to international credit institutions, except for those pension funds, which they claim they cannot give any of it back to retired people who live below poverty levels because…because that would empty out the state funds which must…which must be used to warrant new succulent loans. Sorry if this is a bit depressive, but while Dan’s reports provide us with elation, I cannot fail to denounce (big word here) the two-faced expressions, the 3rd wordlist pseudo-critical pessimism, which all too often permeate this list... Just as in France and as in Argentina, though, it is the workers who show these supposed “real political”, “real concrete”, theories for what they are… Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Left Forum panels: Kliman, Freeman, Jaclard, Cooney, Deasai, Rasmus, Heller, Panviotakis,
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have posted 3 panels from the Left Forum on my blog: http://kapitalism101.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/left-forum-2010-2/ I highly recommend Kliman's talk on the Falling Rate of Profit, and Jaclard and Kliman's talk about transition periods and abolishing the law of value, especially the discussion that followed, in the first Future of World Capitalism panel. 1.Economics and Politics of the Current Crisis: Causes and Prospects for the Future Left Forum 2010 Anne Jaclard (Chair) – National Secretary, Marxist-Humanist Initiative Brendan Cooney – Video producer, “kapitalism101” Andrew Kliman – Dept. of Economics-Pleasantville, Pace University 2. Future of World Capitalism book series-Radical Daemon Books Alan Freeman (Chair) – University of Manitoba Greater London Authority Radhika Desai – Politics, University of Manitoba Visiting Fellow, DESTIN, London School of Economics Costas Panayiotakis – Sociology, New York City College of Technology, CUNY Andrew Kliman – Economics, Pace University Anne Jaclard – National Secretary, Marxist-Humanist Initiative 3. The Future of World Capitalism Book Panel 2: Concepts of Transition Left Forum 2010 Radhika Desai (Chair) – Politics, University of Manitoba Visiting Fellow, DESTIN, London School of Economics Alan Freeman – University of Manitoba Greater London Authority (personal capacity) Henry Heller – History, University of Manitoba Jack Rasmus – Santa Clara University and Economics and Politics, St. Marys College Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Left Forum meet-up
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Hope I can. It depends on when I have to usher on Saturday night. MIL (Marion) -Original Message- From: Louis Proyect l...@panix.com To: Marion L. moteck1...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 2:52 pm Subject: [Marxism] Left Forum meet-up == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Comrades attending this are invited to hook up after the Saturday 5:00 PM - 6:50 PM panels and go out for drinks, food and conversation at a nearby pub. We did this last year and had a really nice time. Meet me at the Monthly Review book table, the same place we met last year. Lou Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/moteck1457%40aol.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] Left and right in Argentina, 1960s and 70s Re: Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China'shigh speed rail plans
Tom Cod escribió: Exactly. The PRT denounced Moreno as Menshevik, but I think it's clear that all issues of armed self defense aside, that the ERP had gone over into reckless adventurism that was not only self-defeating but played into the hands of the military who used it to justify the Dirty War with devastating consequences for the left and society as a whole. All forms of what I now call armed substitutism have the same consequence. The PRT, at least, were consequent to the end. Which has to be said on their behalf. But they, and the Peronist groups that espoused similar tactics (though this is more complex, since Peronist resistence against the 1955 coup and its aftermath had created a resistence myth of its own), in the end played into the hands not of the military (because the Armed Forces were divided on the issue of imperialism, and the action of these groups tended to push them back to unity under the proimperialist command) but of the oligarchic-imperialist establishment. By the way, and without any intention to be rude again, the last part of the last sentence implies, as a point of departure, that not every cat is brown in the (all capitalist, granted) ruling classes in Argentina. People who in abstract believe that every capitalist ruling class is a bourgeoisie (in classical terms) miss these minutiae that can throw a country like mine into hell. Now, this accepted, how can you or anyone suppose these formations were to the Left of Perón? They certainly were not. Which does not imply that Perón was a socialist, nor that the relative political and moral standing of both ERP or MOntoneros on one hand, and the pro-oligarchic military, on the other, allow to equate them as two demons. YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
