Re: [matplotlib-devel] Calling all Mac OSX users!

2011-08-21 Thread Benjamin Root
Ok, there has been a lot of useful discussion (for both MacOSX and Windows),
but in the end, I want to know this: Is it possible for matplotlib to
provide a single, recommended, fully-supported-by-us method for installing
our package (possibly for each platform?).  Could it be pip? Or some other
option?

It is kinda sad that the linux install instructions are easier than the
other platform instructions, and I don't think we even provide a linux
installer.

Ben Root
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[matplotlib-devel] Fwd: [IPython-dev] Announcing shrubbery

2011-08-21 Thread Fernando Perez
FYI

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From: Grahame Bowland 
Date: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 2:18 AM
Subject: [IPython-dev] Announcing shrubbery
To: ipython-...@scipy.org


Hi everyone

I've spent the last few days coming up with a Python 3 distribution of
iPython and friends for Mac OS X. It now works (mostly), and I thought
I'd share it.

The home page is here:
https://github.com/grahame/shrubbery
and I've put an experimental installer image here:
https://github.com/downloads/grahame/shrubbery/shrubbery.pkg

For a long time I've maintained my Python setup by hand, installing
packages into /usr/local and eventually having a huge mess. Hence this
project - a distribution of software for Mac OS to make it easier for
people to get started with iPython.

I've targeted Python 3 in the hope it'll encourage the porting of more
software to the new version of the language.

There's not too much Mac OS specific about this, except that on Linux
you'd probably want to get packages from your distribution. If anyone
wants to make it work on other platforms that'd be great.

Cheers
Grahame
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Re: [matplotlib-devel] Calling all Mac OSX users!

2011-08-21 Thread Eric Firing
On 08/21/2011 10:06 AM, Benjamin Root wrote:
> Ok, there has been a lot of useful discussion (for both MacOSX and
> Windows), but in the end, I want to know this: Is it possible for
> matplotlib to provide a single, recommended, fully-supported-by-us
> method for installing our package (possibly for each platform?).  Could
> it be pip? Or some other option?

We do that via the installers built by Christoph for Windows and by 
Russell for OS X.  Beyond that, for compiling from source, it is a 
matter of recipes that work for various platforms under various 
circumstances; there are just too many variables.

Perhaps the situation for OS X doesn't have to be quite as bad as it 
sometimes looks.  make.osx works, or did the last time I tried it, but 
requires periodic maintenance. We could probably do what Russell 
recommends and restore darwin library locations to setupext.py, and then 
a plain setup-based build and install would work for many people.  It 
might be worth trying, to see if it leads to more traffic on the list, 
or to less.

My sense is that pip and easy-install cause more trouble for mpl than 
they are worth.

>
> It is kinda sad that the linux install instructions are easier than the
> other platform instructions, and I don't think we even provide a linux
> installer.

Distros provide packages, so that's the equivalent of "installer" for 
linux; we provide git, tarballs, and notes as to what header files or 
devel packages need to be in place if one wants to compile from source.

Eric

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> Ben Root

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