Re: [matplotlib-devel] Github Downloads going away...
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > On 12/14/12 10:55 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> sourceforge's horror of an interface. > > I'll second that. Every time I go to Sourceforge, I have to figure out > how in the world to download what I want (and I have to figure out which > things *not* to click on too). Ok sounds like there is a reasonable amount of resistance towards Sourceforge. Eric, when you suggest that NumFocus could 'provide hosting directly', do you mean they would have the physical hardware to host the files, or are you suggesting they provide the finances to seek hosting elsewhere? In the GitHub blog post, they suggest using S3. We could try that. It's fairly inexpensive and the first year is free (within monthly bandwidth limits). We could try it for a year and see how that pans out? I'm not entirely sure how the Amazon stuff works but I've heard good things about it. -- Damon McDougall http://www.damon-is-a-geek.com Institute for Computational Engineering Sciences 201 E. 24th St. Stop C0200 The University of Texas at Austin Austin, TX 78712-1229 -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Github Downloads going away...
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Damon McDougall wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: > > On 12/14/12 10:55 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > >> sourceforge's horror of an interface. > > > > I'll second that. Every time I go to Sourceforge, I have to figure out > > how in the world to download what I want (and I have to figure out which > > things *not* to click on too). > > Ok sounds like there is a reasonable amount of resistance towards > Sourceforge. > > Eric, when you suggest that NumFocus could 'provide hosting directly', > do you mean they would have the physical hardware to host the files, > or are you suggesting they provide the finances to seek hosting > elsewhere? > > In the GitHub blog post, they suggest using S3. We could try that. > It's fairly inexpensive and the first year is free (within monthly > bandwidth limits). We could try it for a year and see how that pans > out? I'm not entirely sure how the Amazon stuff works but I've heard > good things about it. > > > Are you sure the monthly bandwidth limits are sufficient? Also, have you talked to the pypi people about making exceptions for really popular projects? If critical packages like numpy, scipy, and matplotlib cannot use pypi, that seems like a major failing of the system. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Github Downloads going away...
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Todd wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Damon McDougall > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Jason Grout >> wrote: >> > On 12/14/12 10:55 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> >> sourceforge's horror of an interface. >> > >> > I'll second that. Every time I go to Sourceforge, I have to figure out >> > how in the world to download what I want (and I have to figure out which >> > things *not* to click on too). >> >> Ok sounds like there is a reasonable amount of resistance towards >> Sourceforge. >> >> Eric, when you suggest that NumFocus could 'provide hosting directly', >> do you mean they would have the physical hardware to host the files, >> or are you suggesting they provide the finances to seek hosting >> elsewhere? >> >> In the GitHub blog post, they suggest using S3. We could try that. >> It's fairly inexpensive and the first year is free (within monthly >> bandwidth limits). We could try it for a year and see how that pans >> out? I'm not entirely sure how the Amazon stuff works but I've heard >> good things about it. >> >> > Are you sure the monthly bandwidth limits are sufficient? > > Also, have you talked to the pypi people about making exceptions for really > popular projects? If critical packages like numpy, scipy, and matplotlib > cannot use pypi, that seems like a major failing of the system. Here's the pricing: http://aws.amazon.com/s3/#pricing. The free tier programme limits are on there too. Unfortunately, I do not have the knowledge to be able to say whether we would hit that or not. Matt, have you had experienced comitting binaries to the gh-pages branch? Are there size limits? -- Damon McDougall http://www.damon-is-a-geek.com Institute for Computational Engineering Sciences 201 E. 24th St. Stop C0200 The University of Texas at Austin Austin, TX 78712-1229 -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Github Downloads going away...
On 2012/12/16 9:21 AM, Damon McDougall wrote: > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Jason Grout > wrote: >> On 12/14/12 10:55 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >>> sourceforge's horror of an interface. >> >> I'll second that. Every time I go to Sourceforge, I have to figure out >> how in the world to download what I want (and I have to figure out which >> things *not* to click on too). > > Ok sounds like there is a reasonable amount of resistance towards Sourceforge. > > Eric, when you suggest that NumFocus could 'provide hosting directly', > do you mean they would have the physical hardware to host the files, > or are you suggesting they provide the finances to seek hosting > elsewhere? I was thinking that perhaps NumFocus would be running a server that could provide the hosting. Funding for an external service is also possible, though, and might make more sense. > > In the GitHub blog post, they suggest using S3. We could try that. > It's fairly inexpensive and the first year is free (within monthly > bandwidth limits). We could try it for a year and see how that pans > out? I'm not entirely sure how the Amazon stuff works but I've heard > good things about it. > The github page https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/downloads shows 44,000 downloads for the 1.2 tarball, so I don't think the 20,000 downloads per month limit of the free tier would work. Eric -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Github Downloads going away...
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Eric Firing wrote: > On 2012/12/16 9:21 AM, Damon McDougall wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Jason Grout >> wrote: >>> On 12/14/12 10:55 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: sourceforge's horror of an interface. >>> >>> I'll second that. Every time I go to Sourceforge, I have to figure out >>> how in the world to download what I want (and I have to figure out which >>> things *not* to click on too). >> >> Ok sounds like there is a reasonable amount of resistance towards >> Sourceforge. >> >> Eric, when you suggest that NumFocus could 'provide hosting directly', >> do you mean they would have the physical hardware to host the files, >> or are you suggesting they provide the finances to seek hosting >> elsewhere? > > I was thinking that perhaps NumFocus would be running a server that > could provide the hosting. Funding for an external service is also > possible, though, and might make more sense. > >> >> In the GitHub blog post, they suggest using S3. We could try that. >> It's fairly inexpensive and the first year is free (within monthly >> bandwidth limits). We could try it for a year and see how that pans >> out? I'm not entirely sure how the Amazon stuff works but I've heard >> good things about it. >> > > The github page https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/downloads shows > 44,000 downloads for the 1.2 tarball, so I don't think the 20,000 > downloads per month limit of the free tier would work. Note: that's 44,000 downloads for a gzipped bundle of the *source*, which can still be downloaded via the "Tags" tab (https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/tags). Any time one of us creates a tag, GitHub automagically tar/gzips it and makes it downloadable. As far as I am aware, this is separate to the "Downloads" section, which is for arbitrary files of any type, not just source tarballs. That said, not taking into account the downloads of the tarball, we're still pretty close to the 20,000 mark. -- Damon McDougall http://www.damon-is-a-geek.com Institute for Computational Engineering Sciences 201 E. 24th St. Stop C0200 The University of Texas at Austin Austin, TX 78712-1229 -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
