[matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
Hi, We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full source access giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices. We would like to call this app "Pylab Console" on a freemium model with a free and premium version. This app will give graphics support in its premium version. And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2 >From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term "Pylab" in our Android App name ? Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the authorisation of publishing such an app ? Thanks for your help. Apps Embedded Team. -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
I (personally) would prefer you not use the work 'pylab' in your app name. There is enough confusion related to the term 'pylab' as it is with out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning. I am speaking for my self in this email. Tom On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded wrote: > Hi, > > We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full > source access > giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices. > > We would like to call this app "Pylab Console" on a freemium model with a > free and premium version. > This app will give graphics support in its premium version. > And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2 > > From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term "Pylab" in our > Android App name ? > > Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the > authorisation of publishing such an app ? > > Thanks for your help. > > Apps Embedded Team. > > > -- > > ___ > Matplotlib-devel mailing list > Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel > > -- Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
Hi, Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said "... - Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. ..." So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden by the licence text. Thanks for your help. Apps Embedded Team. 2014-11-07 15:03 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell : > I (personally) would prefer you not use the work 'pylab' in your app > name. There is enough confusion related to the term 'pylab' as it is with > out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning. > > I am speaking for my self in this email. > > Tom > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full >> source access >> giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices. >> >> We would like to call this app "Pylab Console" on a freemium model with a >> free and premium version. >> This app will give graphics support in its premium version. >> And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2 >> >> From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term "Pylab" in our >> Android App name ? >> >> Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the >> authorisation of publishing such an app ? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Apps Embedded Team. >> >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Matplotlib-devel mailing list >> Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel >> >> > > > -- > Thomas Caswell > tcasw...@gmail.com > -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
You need to ask that on the scipy list, not here. I suspect no project will be happy with you shadowing their name. I suggest you also talk to NumFocus. Again, this is written in a personal capacity. Tom On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Apps Embedded wrote: > Hi, > > Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? > > In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said > "... > >- Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers >may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software >without specific prior written permission. > > ..." > > So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden > by the licence text. > > Thanks for your help. > > Apps Embedded Team. > > 2014-11-07 15:03 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell : > >> I (personally) would prefer you not use the work 'pylab' in your app >> name. There is enough confusion related to the term 'pylab' as it is with >> out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning. >> >> I am speaking for my self in this email. >> >> Tom >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full >>> source access >>> giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices. >>> >>> We would like to call this app "Pylab Console" on a freemium model with >>> a free and premium version. >>> This app will give graphics support in its premium version. >>> And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2 >>> >>> From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term "Pylab" in our >>> Android App name ? >>> >>> Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the >>> authorisation of publishing such an app ? >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> >>> Apps Embedded Team. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> Matplotlib-devel mailing list >>> Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Thomas Caswell >> tcasw...@gmail.com >> > > -- Thomas Caswell tcasw...@gmail.com -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
Hello, I agree with Thomas this is not the right (and only) forum to ask these questions. If you seek legal advice you should ask a lawyer. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Apps Embedded wrote: > Hi, > > Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? do no use any name already taken, thats a general rule of thumb to avoid legal issues > > In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said > "... > > Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may be > used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without > specific prior written permission. > > ..." > > So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden by > the licence text. Nope you didnt get the licence right (at list that point), there it means you cannot say the entity Enthought or any SciPy developers (the people who wrote the scipy code) are endorsing your product as good, valid, appropriate, anything. Again, seek legal advices with legal professionels. Regards, -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
Hi, You are right. Maybe a "Science Console" name should simply do it. And for the Python trademark, is there any legal issue with charging an Android app using the python langage ? Apps Embedded Team. 2014-11-07 15:36 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell : > You need to ask that on the scipy list, not here. > > I suspect no project will be happy with you shadowing their name. > > I suggest you also talk to NumFocus. > > Again, this is written in a personal capacity. > > Tom > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Apps Embedded > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? >> >> In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said >> "... >> >>- Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers >>may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software >>without specific prior written permission. >> >> ..." >> >> So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden >> by the licence text. >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Apps Embedded Team. >> >> 2014-11-07 15:03 GMT+01:00 Thomas Caswell : >> >>> I (personally) would prefer you not use the work 'pylab' in your app >>> name. There is enough confusion related to the term 'pylab' as it is with >>> out adding another (some what orthogonal) meaning. >>> >>> I am speaking for my self in this email. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Apps Embedded >>> wrote: >>> Hi, We are about to publish an Android app released under GPL v3 with full source access giving the SciPy environnement to any Android devices. We would like to call this app "Pylab Console" on a freemium model with a free and premium version. This app will give graphics support in its premium version. And thus it will use Matplotlib version 1.4.2 From a legal point of view, are we able to use the term "Pylab" in our Android App name ? Moreover, as Python is a trademark, should we need to ask the PSF the authorisation of publishing such an app ? Thanks for your help. Apps Embedded Team. -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas Caswell >>> tcasw...@gmail.com >>> >> >> > > > -- > Thomas Caswell > tcasw...@gmail.com > -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
Hi, This was just in case we could get some answers about selling some open-source code including Matplotlib. Apps Embedded Team. 2014-11-07 15:42 GMT+01:00 Sandro Tosi : > Hello, > I agree with Thomas this is not the right (and only) forum to ask > these questions. If you seek legal advice you should ask a lawyer. > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Apps Embedded > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? > > do no use any name already taken, thats a general rule of thumb to > avoid legal issues > > > > > In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said > > "... > > > > Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may > be > > used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without > > specific prior written permission. > > > > ..." > > > > So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be forbidden > by > > the licence text. > > Nope you didnt get the licence right (at list that point), there it > means you cannot say the entity Enthought or any SciPy developers (the > people who wrote the scipy code) are endorsing your product as good, > valid, appropriate, anything. > > Again, seek legal advices with legal professionels. > > Regards, > -- > Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) > My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ > Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi > -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
On 7 Nov 2014 14:44, "Apps Embedded" wrote: > > Hi, > > You are right. > Maybe a "Science Console" name should simply do it. > > And for the Python trademark, is there any legal issue with charging an Android app using the python langage ? This is like me asking you whether I can legally call something "android" because you are android developers and thus totally qualified to speak on behalf of Google's legal department. -n -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
I can't speak about trademarks, but with regards to projects that are released under BSD license, it is my understanding (but, IANAL) that it is perfectly valid to sell a product using BSD code. I also think that it is ok to relicense it as GPLv3, but I am not entirely clear on that. Trademarks are an entirely different issue, though, and one that I have zero clue about. Do get a lawyer, or at least read up on the legal FAQs from FSF and other organizations. Ben Root On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Apps Embedded wrote: > Hi, > > This was just in case we could get some answers about selling some > open-source code including Matplotlib. > > Apps Embedded Team. > > 2014-11-07 15:42 GMT+01:00 Sandro Tosi : > >> Hello, >> I agree with Thomas this is not the right (and only) forum to ask >> these questions. If you seek legal advice you should ask a lawyer. >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Apps Embedded >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? >> >> do no use any name already taken, thats a general rule of thumb to >> avoid legal issues >> >> > >> > In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said >> > "... >> > >> > Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers may >> be >> > used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without >> > specific prior written permission. >> > >> > ..." >> > >> > So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be >> forbidden by >> > the licence text. >> >> Nope you didnt get the licence right (at list that point), there it >> means you cannot say the entity Enthought or any SciPy developers (the >> people who wrote the scipy code) are endorsing your product as good, >> valid, appropriate, anything. >> >> Again, seek legal advices with legal professionels. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) >> My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ >> Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi >> > > > > -- > > ___ > Matplotlib-devel mailing list > Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel > > -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
Re: [matplotlib-devel] Matplotlib on Android
Hi, Thanks for your answers and advices. 2014-11-07 16:03 GMT+01:00 Benjamin Root : > I can't speak about trademarks, but with regards to projects that are > released under BSD license, it is my understanding (but, IANAL) that it is > perfectly valid to sell a product using BSD code. I also think that it is > ok to relicense it as GPLv3, but I am not entirely clear on that. > > Trademarks are an entirely different issue, though, and one that I have > zero clue about. Do get a lawyer, or at least read up on the legal FAQs > from FSF and other organizations. > > Ben Root > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Apps Embedded > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This was just in case we could get some answers about selling some >> open-source code including Matplotlib. >> >> Apps Embedded Team. >> >> 2014-11-07 15:42 GMT+01:00 Sandro Tosi : >> >>> Hello, >>> I agree with Thomas this is not the right (and only) forum to ask >>> these questions. If you seek legal advice you should ask a lawyer. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Apps Embedded >>> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > Could I name this app "Scipy Console Free" ? >>> >>> do no use any name already taken, thats a general rule of thumb to >>> avoid legal issues >>> >>> > >>> > In the BSD licence of Scipy library, it is said >>> > "... >>> > >>> > Neither the name of Enthought nor the names of the SciPy Developers >>> may be >>> > used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without >>> > specific prior written permission. >>> > >>> > ..." >>> > >>> > So Scipy Console shoud be ok ? Since Scipy does not seem to be >>> forbidden by >>> > the licence text. >>> >>> Nope you didnt get the licence right (at list that point), there it >>> means you cannot say the entity Enthought or any SciPy developers (the >>> people who wrote the scipy code) are endorsing your product as good, >>> valid, appropriate, anything. >>> >>> Again, seek legal advices with legal professionels. >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) >>> My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ >>> Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> Matplotlib-devel mailing list >> Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel >> >> > -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
[matplotlib-devel] nature ipython notebook
IPython notebooks got a write up in Nature. http://www.nature.com/news/interactive-notebooks-sharing-the-code-1.16261 All of the examples depend on mpl. Tom -- ___ Matplotlib-devel mailing list Matplotlib-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-devel
