Re: ncurses or slang

2009-10-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Slava Zanko slavaza...@gmail.com schrieb:

Hi folks,

snip

unless there's a damn good reason for slang, I'd prefer dropping
slang in favour of ncurses.


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Re: building 4.6.2 with glib1

2009-10-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Gabor Z. Papp g...@papp.hu schrieb:

Hi,

 Compiling current git with glib1 fails with the following error:

you shouldn't be much surprised: glib1 and glib2 are totally different,
very incompatible libraries, just happen to share the name and 
some ideas behind.

BTW: I'm (again) working on getting rid of it at all, since 
glib is utterly broken/unusable on certain platforms (especially
embedded ones)

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Re: ncurses or slang

2009-10-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:42 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

 unless there's a damn good reason for slang, I'd prefer dropping
 slang in favour of ncurses.

Why would you drop anything at all unless there's a damn good reason for
that?
 
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Re: building 4.6.2 with glib1

2009-10-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:45 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

 BTW: I'm (again) working on getting rid of it at all, since 
 glib is utterly broken/unusable on certain platforms (especially
 embedded ones)

Would you please elaborate on how broken it is?

P.S. It would be interesting to see your repo at some point. The links
in your signature ATM are, unfortunately, broken/unusable on my
platform ;-) Do you have a public mirror yet?
 
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Re: ncurses or slang

2009-10-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com schrieb:
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:42 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
  unless there's a damn good reason for slang, I'd prefer dropping
  slang in favour of ncurses.
 
 Why would you drop anything at all unless there's a damn good reason for
 that?

To make the whole code smaller and cleaner ;-P


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Re: ncurses or slang

2009-10-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:03 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 * Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com schrieb:
  On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:42 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
  
   unless there's a damn good reason for slang, I'd prefer dropping
   slang in favour of ncurses.
  
  Why would you drop anything at all unless there's a damn good reason for
  that?
 
 To make the whole code smaller and cleaner ;-P

Does not sound compelling enough to me. Did you try LFS? :-P
 
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Re: building 4.6.2 with glib1

2009-10-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com schrieb:
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:45 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
  BTW: I'm (again) working on getting rid of it at all, since 
  glib is utterly broken/unusable on certain platforms (especially
  embedded ones)
 
 Would you please elaborate on how broken it is?

For example makes trouble on uclibc (eg. Gentoo folks have theirs
reasons to have it hardmasked on uclibc profiles). Oh, and it's
quite fat - too fat for the targets I need mc for.

 P.S. It would be interesting to see your repo at some point. The links
 in your signature ATM are, unfortunately, broken/unusable on my
 platform ;-) Do you have a public mirror yet?

Just was too lazy to reconfigure the signature for that list
(because, since i'd been driven out of the team, i rarely come
around here ...). My current projects are now exclusively in 
git repos - if you're interested in sth., just let me know.


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Re: ncurses or slang

2009-10-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com schrieb:
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:03 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
  * Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com schrieb:
   On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 18:42 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
   
unless there's a damn good reason for slang, I'd prefer dropping
slang in favour of ncurses.
   
   Why would you drop anything at all unless there's a damn good reason for
   that?
  
  To make the whole code smaller and cleaner ;-P
 
 Does not sound compelling enough to me. Did you try LFS? :-P

yet too big for my targets. I've got my own build/distro system
(which builds everything exclusively w/ sysroot'ed crosscompilers)


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Re: building 4.6.2 with glib1

2009-10-27 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:12 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

 Just was too lazy to reconfigure the signature for that list
 (because, since i'd been driven out of the team, i rarely come
 around here ...). My current projects are now exclusively in 
 git repos - if you're interested in sth., just let me know.

I'm interested in peeking in your branches :-)
 
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Re: building 4.6.2 with glib1

2009-10-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Yury V. Zaytsev y...@shurup.com schrieb:
 On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 20:12 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 
  Just was too lazy to reconfigure the signature for that list
  (because, since i'd been driven out of the team, i rarely come
  around here ...). My current projects are now exclusively in 
  git repos - if you're interested in sth., just let me know.
 
 I'm interested in peeking in your branches :-)

free-mc:

git://git.metux.de/free-mc.git

libmvfs:

git://git.metux.de/libmvfs.git

libmixp:

git://git.metux.de/libmixp.git

libmixpsrv:

git://git.metux.de/libmixpsrv.git


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Re: building 4.6.2 with glib1

2009-10-27 Thread Slava Zanko
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27.10.2009 21:12, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 Just was too lazy to reconfigure the signature for that list
 (because, since i'd been driven out of the team, i rarely come
 around here ...). My current projects are now exclusively in 
 git repos - if you're interested in sth., just let me know.

Enrico, 'been driven out of the team' is an incorrect words.
At present time you have write access on git in m-c.o:

midnight-commander:/home/slavaz/.ssh# hostname
midnight-commander.org
midnight-commander:/home/slavaz/.ssh# getent passwd metux
metux:x:1003:112::/home/metux:/bin/sh
midnight-commander:/home/slavaz/.ssh# ls /home/metux/.ssh/
authorized_keys

If you wasn't lose your private ssh-key, you may continue development in
team right now. Is some your ideas was rejected by team? Well, shit
happens. Some my grandiose ideas was reject by team too... but I
continue to develop.

If you absolutely don't like glib - please, propose FULLY-replace
library. Not library with young age and/or poor-featured - need stable
and fully-functional library. You want to support own library code?
Excellent, just try^w do it. This is not so easy like pronounce. :)
We, Russian, have phrases: make own bicycle or Invent the wheel
again. Select what you like:)
Is you have reason for drop glib (except embedded systems)?

Glib may be smallest.  For this, need to tuning glib (via glib
bugzilla's feature request etc). MC just use convenient and 'soft'
library. Many current features and thinks will impossible or will much
harder to realize without glib. Isn't it?


WBR, Slavaz.

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Re: ncurses or slang

2009-10-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 10/27/2009 07:42 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

* Slava Zankoslavaza...@gmail.com  schrieb:

Hi folks,

snip

unless there's a damn good reason for slang, I'd prefer dropping
slang in favour of ncurses.


The bug in mcedit where pressing the DEL key deletes the background in 
ncurses should be reason enough :P


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