[MCN-L] Who manages your social media presence?
Shalom, I am the Webmaster, Photographer, Videographer, Youtuber, Facebooker and Twitterer. In a short while I will also be the Museum Blogger. The head of PR sits a few tabels away from mine. The museum director sits a few tables away from her. I overhear what's happening in the office (open space!) and update everything accordingly. --- Hanan Cohen Webmaster Bloomfield Science Museum Jerusalem http://mada.org.il/en -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Melissa Kinkley Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:40 PM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Who manages your social media presence? Dear all, In your museum, does your PR/Marketing staff manage your presence on flickr, youtube, facebook, your blogs, etc. or someone else? If you have one, how does your New Media team interface with PR/Marketing? Thanks, Melissa Melissa H. Kinkley Manager of New Media Family Interpretation Smart Museum of Art University of Chicago 5550 S. Greenwood Ave. Chicago, IL 60637 ph. 773.702.2362 fax 773.702.3121 http://smartmuseum.uchicago.edu ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft)
When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. Trivial costs? Not according to our CIO. I'm struggling to get something like this online, due to the sheer cost, which is most certainly not paid for by the people's money. And we need to remember that people aren't paying for images of public domain art (an abstract) but for image files + delivery + service. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Perhaps the VA is a fully-government-funded institution (with a very active commercial branch, VA Enterprises, Ltd., to help support it -- including an excellent for-payment picture library). But not so my non-government-funded institution. We literally do not have a photography budget. High-quality images are paid for by individual exhibition catalog budgets, which are fully funded by private donations. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem ? From: Newman, Alan a-new...@nga.gov Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Image Sizes (later Image Theft) To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:12 PM Nik, Matt, Ken, Nancy, Mike et al, Here's another music model --- from Radiohead (quoting from Wikipedia) Radiohead's seventh album, In Rainbows, was released through the band's own website on 10 October 2007 as a digital download for which customers could make whatever payment that they wanted, including nothing; the site only advised, it's up to you.[46] Following the band's sudden announcement 10 days beforehand, Radiohead's unusual strategy received much notice within the music industry and beyond.[47] 1.2 million downloads were reportedly sold by the day of release,[48] but the band's management did not release official sales figures, claiming that the Internet-only distribution was intended to boost later retail sales. So we adopt a museum convention in use at the Met and elsewhere for admissions: pay what you can afford for images. What could be more fair? What could draw more attention to our collections? Who knows, this might be the answer to Mariet Westermann's recommendation to streamline image licensing. When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Nik, wish me luck getting this through. Alan Newman On 5/5/09 6:23 PM, Nik Honeysett NHoneysett at getty.edu wrote: This reminds me of a classic example in the music industry in the early 90's. Blue Note Record's legal team came across a 12 single called The Band Played the Boogie featuring an illegal sampling of Grant Green's Sookie Sookie, enjoying a huge underground following. Rather than pursue a suit, Blue Note hired the group and gave them access to their full back catalogue. The resulting release was Blue Note's first platinum-selling album (Us3 - Hand on the Torch). So, put your images out there, wait for someone to figure out how to make money from them, then hire them. (wish me luck with getting that through our general counsel). -nik ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft)
Hi Amalyah, My point was that after the build the maintenance costs are trivial to keep the self-serve part of the system going. There is only automated file delivery and no human service...for that part of the program. The main question, debated here often, is whether this should be mission-driven public policy rather than thought off as a crucial revenue stream. In my imaginary proposal you get both. Alan -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu on behalf of Amalyah Keshet [akes...@imj.org.il] Sent: Thu 5/21/2009 4:26 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. Trivial costs? Not according to our CIO. I'm struggling to get something like this online, due to the sheer cost, which is most certainly not paid for by the people's money. And we need to remember that people aren't paying for images of public domain art (an abstract) but for image files + delivery + service. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Perhaps the VA is a fully-government-funded institution (with a very active commercial branch, VA Enterprises, Ltd., to help support it -- including an excellent for-payment picture library). But not so my non-government-funded institution. We literally do not have a photography budget. High-quality images are paid for by individual exhibition catalog budgets, which are fully funded by private donations. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem ? From: Newman, Alan a-new...@nga.gov Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Image Sizes (later Image Theft) To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:12 PM Nik, Matt, Ken, Nancy, Mike et al, Here's another music model --- from Radiohead (quoting from Wikipedia) Radiohead's seventh album, In Rainbows, was released through the band's own website on 10 October 2007 as a digital download for which customers could make whatever payment that they wanted, including nothing; the site only advised, it's up to you.[46] Following the band's sudden announcement 10 days beforehand, Radiohead's unusual strategy received much notice within the music industry and beyond.[47] 1.2 million downloads were reportedly sold by the day of release,[48] but the band's management did not release official sales figures, claiming that the Internet-only distribution was intended to boost later retail sales. So we adopt a museum convention in use at the Met and elsewhere for admissions: pay what you can afford for images. What could be more fair? What could draw more attention to our collections? Who knows, this might be the answer to Mariet Westermann's recommendation to streamline image licensing. When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Nik, wish me luck getting this through. Alan Newman On 5/5/09 6:23 PM, Nik Honeysett NHoneysett at getty.edu wrote: This reminds me of a classic example in the music industry in the early 90's. Blue Note Record's legal team came across a 12 single called The Band Played the Boogie featuring an illegal sampling of Grant Green's Sookie Sookie, enjoying a huge underground following. Rather than pursue a suit, Blue Note hired the group and gave them access to their full back catalogue. The resulting release was Blue Note's first platinum-selling album (Us3 - Hand on the Torch). So, put your images out there, wait for someone to figure out how to make money from them, then hire them. (wish me luck with getting that through our general counsel). -nik ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at:
[MCN-L] RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft)
We have the same problem in our little institution. Ann Drury Wellford Photo Services Manager The Museum of the Confederacy 1201 East Clay Street Richmond, VA 23219 Phone: (804) 649-1861 x17 Fax: (804) 644-7150 www.moc.org -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Amalyah Keshet [akes...@imj.org.il] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:27 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. Trivial costs? Not according to our CIO. I'm struggling to get something like this online, due to the sheer cost, which is most certainly not paid for by the people's money. And we need to remember that people aren't paying for images of public domain art (an abstract) but for image files + delivery + service. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Perhaps the VA is a fully-government-funded institution (with a very active commercial branch, VA Enterprises, Ltd., to help support it -- including an excellent for-payment picture library). But not so my non-government-funded institution. We literally do not have a photography budget. High-quality images are paid for by individual exhibition catalog budgets, which are fully funded by private donations. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem ? From: Newman, Alan a-new...@nga.gov Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Image Sizes (later Image Theft) To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:12 PM Nik, Matt, Ken, Nancy, Mike et al, Here's another music model --- from Radiohead (quoting from Wikipedia) Radiohead's seventh album, In Rainbows, was released through the band's own website on 10 October 2007 as a digital download for which customers could make whatever payment that they wanted, including nothing; the site only advised, it's up to you.[46] Following the band's sudden announcement 10 days beforehand, Radiohead's unusual strategy received much notice within the music industry and beyond.[47] 1.2 million downloads were reportedly sold by the day of release,[48] but the band's management did not release official sales figures, claiming that the Internet-only distribution was intended to boost later retail sales. So we adopt a museum convention in use at the Met and elsewhere for admissions: pay what you can afford for images. What could be more fair? What could draw more attention to our collections? Who knows, this might be the answer to Mariet Westermann's recommendation to streamline image licensing. When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Nik, wish me luck getting this through. Alan Newman On 5/5/09 6:23 PM, Nik Honeysett NHoneysett at getty.edu wrote: This reminds me of a classic example in the music industry in the early 90's. Blue Note Record's legal team came across a 12 single called The Band Played the Boogie featuring an illegal sampling of Grant Green's Sookie Sookie, enjoying a huge underground following. Rather than pursue a suit, Blue Note hired the group and gave them access to their full back catalogue. The resulting release was Blue Note's first platinum-selling album (Us3 - Hand on the Torch). So, put your images out there, wait for someone to figure out how to make money from them, then hire them. (wish me luck with getting that through our general counsel). -nik ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer
RE: [MCN-L] RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) - Survey into image use from search engines
Apologies for butting in on this very interesting discussion, but the cost of provision and access of images is close to our hearts at Bridgeman and it is something we are researching right now under one of our government funded projects. I hope it is not inappropriate therefore to present below our request for input on this from anyone on the listserv who is interested. It is mainly aimed at our University audience but we would be delighted for anyone else to participate. Please feel free to forward on. Many thanks, Pandora Mather-Lees. Call for participants ? short survey into use of image content from Google Bridgeman Education is currently investigating how images from Wikipedia and search engines such as Google are retrieved and used for educational use. At a time when some institutions are calling on staff to remove images taken off Google from their internal networks, there is increasing awareness of copyright issues and very opposing views on acceptable use ? particularly at different levels within the institution. Our Project team wish to substantiate existing data gained through focus groups and would like to hear from the community at all levels ? deans, school and faculty heads, tutors, curriculum leaders, librarians and of course the students themselves. Respondents will only be required to give a short telephone interview or questionnaire sharing their views on use of images from search engines, quality of metadata and file size, level of use and attitudes to copyright, plagiarism, fair use, fair dealing and how they see images used in education in the future. Bridgeman Education is carrying out this survey as part of a UK government funded project to research the future of e-learning, technology in education and the issues associated with providing useful access to learning materials. For more information on the project see: SILVER (www.silvereducation.org) Please confirm your interest via the email address below and we will contact you with further details. Responses will be treated in confidence and no names will be published. A summary of the research will be fed back to and shared with those who have been kind enough to give their time. Participants from any institution or country are welcome. Please reply to: pandora.matherlees at bridgemanart.co.uk www.bridgemaneducation.com Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:45:14 -0400 From: DWellford at moc.org To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: Re: [MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) We have the same problem in our little institution. Ann Drury Wellford Photo Services Manager The Museum of the Confederacy 1201 East Clay Street Richmond, VA 23219 Phone: (804) 649-1861 x17 Fax: (804) 644-7150 www.moc.org -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Amalyah Keshet [akeshet at imj.org.il] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:27 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. Trivial costs? Not according to our CIO. I'm struggling to get something like this online, due to the sheer cost, which is most certainly not paid for by the people's money. And we need to remember that people aren't paying for images of public domain art (an abstract) but for image files + delivery + service. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Perhaps the VA is a fully-government-funded institution (with a very active commercial branch, VA Enterprises, Ltd., to help support it -- including an excellent for-payment picture library). But not so my non-government-funded institution. We literally do not have a photography budget. High-quality images are paid for by individual exhibition catalog budgets, which are fully funded by private donations. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem ? From: Newman, Alan A-Newman at NGA.GOV Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Image Sizes (later Image Theft) To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:12 PM Nik, Matt, Ken, Nancy, Mike et al, Here's another music model --- from Radiohead (quoting from Wikipedia) Radiohead's seventh album, In Rainbows, was released through the band's own website on 10 October 2007 as a digital download for which customers could make whatever payment that they wanted, including nothing; the site only advised, it's up to you.[46] Following the band's sudden announcement 10 days beforehand, Radiohead's unusual strategy received much notice within the music
[MCN-L] RE: RE : ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft)
Alan: Yes, I understand. But the people (taxpayer dollars) won't pay for it, and neither will a foundation and neither will a donor. (I'm speaking of here in my part of the world, of course -- but I know I'm not speaking only for myself. If you can get a foundation to pay for this, that's great, and I can only envy you.) So yes, it's an investment, and not only has to be repaid, but has to bring in enough new income to prove that the initial investment was worth it. That's the way our budget priorities work, at any rate. Amalyah ?: ??mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] ??? Newman, Alan [A-Newman at NGA.GOV] ??: ? ? 21 ??? 2009 18:36 : Museum Computer Network Listserv ??: Re: [MCN-L] ??RE : ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) Amalyah, My point addressed those that were able to get funding for this by any means and what to do with the system. If the people or a foundation or a donor pay $100K for the system this is a gift and does not need to be allocated or recovered. If you borrow the money and are expected to repay a debt (this would be a new idea) you can find a fair way to repay those funds. Mission determines not only policy but budget priorities. Alan On 5/21/09 11:18 AM, Amalyah Keshet akeshet at imj.org.il wrote: Alan: One thing I've learned in exploring the possibilities for setting up an online, download-it-yourself site is that the cost of maintenance, bandwidth, and 24/7 support is not trivial, and there is indeed human service involved. The thing doesn't literally run itself. And the cost of the build is far from trivial - anywhere from $50,000 to $150,00. I have to pay for that with something -- no one's handing us the money to do it. That something is going to have to be a revenue stream. Mission-driven public policy may make us look in the direction of an online, download-it-yourself site, but it isn't going to pay to make it happen. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem ?: ??mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] ??? Newman, Alan [A-Newman at NGA.GOV] ??: ? ? 21 ??? 2009 15:17 : Museum Computer Network Listserv ??: Re: [MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) Hi Amalyah, My point was that after the build the maintenance costs are trivial to keep the self-serve part of the system going. There is only automated file delivery and no human service...for that part of the program. The main question, debated here often, is whether this should be mission-driven public policy rather than thought off as a crucial revenue stream. In my imaginary proposal you get both. Alan -Original Message- From: mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu on behalf of Amalyah Keshet [akeshet at imj.org.il] Sent: Thu 5/21/2009 4:26 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: [MCN-L] ??RE: Image Sizes (later Image Theft) When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art. Trivial costs? Not according to our CIO. I'm struggling to get something like this online, due to the sheer cost, which is most certainly not paid for by the people's money. And we need to remember that people aren't paying for images of public domain art (an abstract) but for image files + delivery + service. As Mark Jones, director of the VA remarked, paraphrased as told to me, the people paid for this once, why should they pay again? Perhaps the VA is a fully-government-funded institution (with a very active commercial branch, VA Enterprises, Ltd., to help support it -- including an excellent for-payment picture library). But not so my non-government-funded institution. We literally do not have a photography budget. High-quality images are paid for by individual exhibition catalog budgets, which are fully funded by private donations. Amalyah Keshet Head of Image Resources Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem ? From: Newman, Alan A-Newman at NGA.GOV Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Image Sizes (later Image Theft) To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:12 PM Nik, Matt, Ken, Nancy, Mike et al, Here's another music model --- from Radiohead (quoting from Wikipedia) Radiohead's seventh album, In Rainbows, was released through the band's own website on 10 October 2007 as a digital download for which customers could make whatever payment that they wanted, including nothing; the site only advised, it's up to you.[46] Following the band's sudden announcement 10 days beforehand, Radiohead's unusual strategy received much notice within the music industry and beyond.[47] 1.2 million downloads were
[MCN-L] Last Call for Computer-Based Exhibit Survey
Everyone, Last call. We will be closing our survey on Monday. If you haven't taken it yet, you can go directly to: http://tinyurl.com/openexhibits As of today we have 122 responses. Maybe we can break 150? If you have 5 to 10 minutes to spare we would appreciate your participation. We will share the results first with anyone who completes the survey, we will later post the results on the Open Exhibits Website: http://www.openexhibits.org Below is the message I sent out last month We are resubmitting a grant proposal to fund Open Exhibits, a project that will allow us to develop, test, and disseminate open source software built specifically for museum exhibits. The Open Exhibits software, templates, modules, source code, training opportunities, and prototype exhibits will be made freely available to museums. The exhibits will be built using Adobe Flash (ActionScript 3 and Flex). We are planning on building-in support for multitouch gestures and multiuser applications. We also intend to build-in support for external devices such as sensors, cameras, buttons, and unusual displays. Once again, we are seeking feedback from other museum professionals so we can tailor our project to meet the needs of the field. We have put together a survey to help us assess those needs: to gain insight into the state of computer-based interactive exhibits in a variety of museums, to gauge interest in the Open Exhibits software, and to better understand museums? technical expertise and constraints. Anyone from any type of museum or informal educational organization is encouraged to respond. Thanks for your help and participation. Jim Spadaccini Jim Spadaccini Ideum ideas + media 4895 1/2 Corrales Road Corrales, NM 87048 phone: 505-792-1110 portfolio blog: http://www.ideum.com museum blogs podcasts: http://www.museumblogs.org Have you seen our multitouch table? http://www.ideum.com/products/multitouch.html
[MCN-L] job descriptions for museum's in-house IT staff
Hello, I am researching job descriptions for in-house IT staff of museums. I am a part of the Fluid Engage project ( http://fluidproject.org/projects/fluid-engage) and am assisting a partner museum develop a job description for a staff member that is dedicated to IT full-time. So, I want to get a sense of what IT staff who work in-house for museums and galleries do. I'm particularly interested in positions where working with open source communities and implementing open source solutions is emphasized, but that is not the only criteria. Thus far, I've been browsing http://conference.archimuse.com/ and downloading job descriptions from there. However, I am looking for other resources to browse as well. I would appreciate any tips on other places to investigate. Thanks, Alison Benjamin Fluid Engage Project
