[MCN-L] DAMs
Beth, The best advice I can offer for a selection process of any system once you narrow the field is to prepare a test script. Give the vendor a specific script to follow, with data you provide. This helps you understand exactly much better what a system will and will not do in your environment. Much more helpful than a canned vendor presentation. Learned this from Steve Jacobson of JCA and found it to be an extremely valuable tool in any software selections process. John On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 14:09, Beth Heller bheller at americanalpineclub.orgwrote: I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using and why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time on the phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really impressive. The main thing I've learned is that there is no out-of-the-box one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort through which layers will work best together. Anyone who has advice navigating this part of the project will be welcome! Specific costs and vendors/developers and pros and cons of various APIs please! And much gratitude goes to Leala for her time and suggested resources as well! Beth _ _ Beth Heller Library Director The American Alpine Club (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 lbauer at americanalpineclub.org bheller at americanalpineclub.org http://americanalpineclub.org http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/123324141044052 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ -- John R. Bedard | Director of Information Systems Minneapolis Institute of Arts 2400 Third Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 612-870-3268 | JBedard at artsmia.org | www.artsmia.org
[MCN-L] DAMs
Beth, I agree wholeheartedly with John. We also used a test demonstration script with test assets. It was a wonderful evaluation tool. Megan Megan McGovern Digital Asset Specialist Corning Museum of Glass 607.438.5329?office (new) 607.684.5890 cell mcgovernmh at cmog.org -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of John Bedard Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:45 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs Beth, The best advice I can offer for a selection process of any system once you narrow the field is to prepare a test script. Give the vendor a specific script to follow, with data you provide. This helps you understand exactly much better what a system will and will not do in your environment. Much more helpful than a canned vendor presentation. Learned this from Steve Jacobson of JCA and found it to be an extremely valuable tool in any software selections process. John On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 14:09, Beth Heller bheller at americanalpineclub.orgwrote: I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using and why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time on the phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really impressive. The main thing I've learned is that there is no out-of-the-box one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort through which layers will work best together. Anyone who has advice navigating this part of the project will be welcome! Specific costs and vendors/developers and pros and cons of various APIs please! And much gratitude goes to Leala for her time and suggested resources as well! Beth _ _ Beth Heller Library Director The American Alpine Club (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 lbauer at americanalpineclub.org bheller at americanalpineclub.org http://americanalpineclub.org http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/12332414104 4052 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ -- John R. Bedard | Director of Information Systems Minneapolis Institute of Arts 2400 Third Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 612-870-3268 | JBedard at artsmia.org | www.artsmia.org
[MCN-L] Online Collections Publication
Hi Maggie, We've have had an uptick in image requests since putting the full collection on line -- makes sense, of course: people looking for images are going to want to see images. Having PayPal available for quick purchases and people who want an image to print and hang on their wall has also helped. I don't think there's any competition between catalogs and online collections: the first is about interpretation, pulling together related groups, and (yes) providing beautiful images. The second is about searching, images, and data, and (in our case) interaction, tagging, commenting. I don't have stats on hand, but you could look over our blog posts about the collections online and see if there are any comments that ring true to you. This one is a good starting point http://bit.ly/jPSKXk (I can't believe it's only a year ago that we released everything!) Try the Labs pages, too: http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/labs/ I'm also not sure that collection online is about attendance -- at least not in a bricks and mortar sense. We all need to start seeing our audience as something broader than the people who walk in the door. People who don't actually come to the museum don't pay admission, but when we build worldwide audience and community, we're banking for the future. If people have a good experience with your collection online and the rest of your website and feel connected with you on a personal level, that may prime them to visit the next time they're in the area, or to talk you up and spread the word (The Brooklyn Museum is a way cool place.). Deb Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: maggie.han...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:24:06 -0700 To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Online Collections Publication (*I apologize if anyone has already received this message. I'm having trouble with my subscription so I'm trying from a different email address!*) Hi, all! We are in the nascent stages of publishing museum objects online. I?ve recently had a few staff members ask questions and raise concerns about online publication hurting exhibition catalog sales (and that general idea). This is an old concern that I know has been disputed and calmed over the past decade or so, but it?s a new concept/process for some of our staff. I?d like to share some examples or refer concerned parties to statistics that show that online publication of collections has been shown to *increase * attendance and sales. I know that there are good quotes in the *LA Art Online* report; can anyone point me toward other reports, stats, or personal anecdotes that I could share? Thanks so much! Maggie __ *Maggie Hanson* Collections Information Manager | Portland Art Museum *T* | +1 503.276.4224 *F* | +1 503.226.4201 *twitter* | @pamcollections http://twitter.com/pamcollections ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] DAMs
I would also urge you to build a test period into your contract where you have time to implement and be sure that everything works as it is supposed to. Tie your final payment to that approval process. Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: mcgovernmh at cmog.org To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:15:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs Beth, I agree wholeheartedly with John. We also used a test demonstration script with test assets. It was a wonderful evaluation tool. Megan Megan McGovern Digital Asset Specialist Corning Museum of Glass 607.438.5329 office (new) 607.684.5890 cell mcgovernmh at cmog.org -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of John Bedard Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:45 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DAMs Beth, The best advice I can offer for a selection process of any system once you narrow the field is to prepare a test script. Give the vendor a specific script to follow, with data you provide. This helps you understand exactly much better what a system will and will not do in your environment. Much more helpful than a canned vendor presentation. Learned this from Steve Jacobson of JCA and found it to be an extremely valuable tool in any software selections process. John On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 14:09, Beth Heller bheller at americanalpineclub.orgwrote: I just wanted to thank everyone who posted which DAMs they were using and why. I think we are going to explore a bit further with Fedora/Islandora/Solr, but David Dwiggins spent a great deal of time on the phone with me showing me ResourceSpace and it was really impressive. The main thing I've learned is that there is no out-of-the-box one-thing-does-it-all solution, so we will have to sort through which layers will work best together. Anyone who has advice navigating this part of the project will be welcome! Specific costs and vendors/developers and pros and cons of various APIs please! And much gratitude goes to Leala for her time and suggested resources as well! Beth _ _ Beth Heller Library Director The American Alpine Club (303) 384-0110 ext. 21 lbauer at americanalpineclub.org bheller at americanalpineclub.org http://americanalpineclub.org http://booksearch.americanalpineclub.org http://www.facebook.com/americanalpineclublibrary http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Alpine-Club-Library/12332414104 4052 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ -- John R. Bedard | Director of Information Systems Minneapolis Institute of Arts 2400 Third Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55404 612-870-3268 | JBedard at artsmia.org | www.artsmia.org ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] scholarly publishing specs
Apropos of our recent thread on how and on what terms people are providing images to scholars and conversations we're having here about possibly increasing the size of images we provide on our website, I wanted to open a discussion of what they really need. We're always asked for full-size, high-resolution TIFF files. Our press office, however, regularly provides large JPEGs to magazines and newspapers -- they rarely require TIFFs. So the question is: for a half-page reproduction in a scholarly journal (not a glossy catalog or special use), what would be adequate? (Are they really using all of those bits and bytes we send them in a 60 Mb file? It doesn't always look like it.) If anyone has contacts in the publishing field, I'd be very interested in their comments. If we could come up with a collective standard, it would make it easier all around -- we'd know what to post and make available, researchers would know what was expected by publishers. Please feel free to re-post to other, related lists. Deb Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com
[MCN-L] scholarly publishing specs
Hi Deb This was a thread a while ago on ImageMuse. There is virtually no perceptible difference in print output between an 8 bit per pixel TIFF and high-quality (10+ in Photoshop) JPEG. The distinction comes if before output your files are reprocessed and saved again as JPEG. So it takes very careful communication about file handling with others upstream if you want to adopt JPEG delivery for publication. Cheers, Alan Newman National Gallery of Art ---sent from mobile device--- On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Deborah Wythe deborahwythe at hotmail.com wrote: Apropos of our recent thread on how and on what terms people are providing images to scholars and conversations we're having here about possibly increasing the size of images we provide on our website, I wanted to open a discussion of what they really need. We're always asked for full-size, high-resolution TIFF files. Our press office, however, regularly provides large JPEGs to magazines and newspapers -- they rarely require TIFFs. So the question is: for a half-page reproduction in a scholarly journal (not a glossy catalog or special use), what would be adequate? (Are they really using all of those bits and bytes we send them in a 60 Mb file? It doesn't always look like it.) If anyone has contacts in the publishing field, I'd be very interested in their comments. If we could come up with a collective standard, it would make it easier all around -- we'd know what to post and make available, researchers would know what was expected by publishers. Please feel free to re-post to other, related lists. Deb Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] Online Collections Publication
I wholeheartedly agree with Deb. To date, the evidence is inconclusive that online collections=increased foot traffic EXCEPT when one takes into account the fact that easy access to museum collection materials increases the feelgood quotient for a percentage of your audience. Anecdotally, I do hear on a regular basis from the institutions I work with that they are seeing an uptick in researcher visits. Their researchers are coming from out of town to see the materials firsthand. This doesn't add substantially to the amount of visitors an institution gets, but it does reflect well on the museum to have those visitors making a special trip. You might also take a look at Dr. Paul Marty's 2005-2008 study about museum websites and visitorship. He interviewed 1200 visitors at 9 museum websites and asked them what their expectations were for the website. http://marty.ci.fsu.edu/preprints/marty_mmc_2008.pdf (preprint) According to his research, a majority of online visitors (60-70%) believe that the website should offer access to research materials and online collections. The Canadian Heritage Information Network's 2004 study showed 50% of visitors go to the website to learn about the collections. 2004 Survey of Visitors to Museums? Web Space and Physical Space http://www.pro.rcip-chin.gc.ca/contenu_numerique-digital_content/2004survey-2004survey/index-eng.jsp Also check out the the IMLS National Study on the Use of Libraries, Museums and the Internet, 2008: http://interconnectionsreport.org/ It suggests that there is, in fact, a positive correlation between website use and on-site visitation. From the intro: The study concludes that ?the amount of use of the Internet is positively correlated with the number of in-person visits to museums and has a positive effect on in-person visits to public libraries Hope these are of use, ~Perian P.S. because the question will invariably arise, when I was at the Magnes, we saw our RR revenue increase by about 500% within the first year following online publication of the collections. Some of that revenue was due to a big book publication; take that away, the increase was around 100-150%. On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Deborah Wythe deborahwythe at hotmail.com wrote: Hi Maggie, We've have had an uptick in image requests since putting the full collection on line -- makes sense, of course: people looking for images are going to want to see images. Having PayPal available for quick purchases and people who want an image to print and hang on their wall has also helped. I don't think there's any competition between catalogs and online collections: the first is about interpretation, pulling together related groups, and (yes) providing beautiful images. The second is about searching, images, and data, and (in our case) interaction, tagging, commenting. I don't have stats on hand, but you could look over our blog posts about the collections online and see if there are any comments that ring true to you. This one is a good starting point http://bit.ly/jPSKXk (I can't believe it's only a year ago that we released everything!) Try the Labs pages, too: http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/labs/ I'm also not sure that collection online is about attendance -- at least not in a bricks and mortar sense. We all need to start seeing our audience as something broader than the people who walk in the door. People who don't actually come to the museum don't pay admission, but when we build worldwide audience and community, we're banking for the future. If people have a good experience with your collection online and the rest of your website and feel connected with you on a personal level, that may prime them to visit the next time they're in the area, or to talk you up and spread the word (The Brooklyn Museum is a way cool place.). Deb Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: maggie.hanson at gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:24:06 -0700 To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Online Collections Publication (*I apologize if anyone has already received this message. I'm having trouble with my subscription so I'm trying from a different email address!*) Hi, all! We are in the nascent stages of publishing museum objects online. I?ve recently had a few staff members ask questions and raise concerns about online publication hurting exhibition catalog sales (and that general idea). This is an old concern that I know has been disputed and calmed over the past decade or so, but it?s a new concept/process for some of our staff. I?d like to share some examples or refer concerned parties to statistics that show that online publication of collections has been shown to *increase * attendance and sales. I know that there are good quotes in the *LA Art Online* report; can anyone point me toward other reports, stats, or personal anecdotes that I could share? Thanks so much! Maggie
