[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Hi all, I passed the thread to Shelley Bernstein, our Technology Chief, so she could comment directly on the Brooklyn Museum's wi-fi. Here's her response. Deb Wythe Hi Jeff, I just wanted to quickly weigh in on the wifi install at Brooklyn. The project was first conceived of as a community project - we had a new public plaza completed in 2004 and wanted to make it a welcoming place for the community. The original phase of the project was small in scope -- setup the initial network and get the Plaza, the Sculpture Garden and other public spaces online. It made sense given our mission and the new building project. I'm not sure that my recollection differs that much from Matt's - he is correct that later expansion inside the building meant showing different business cases, but the original project was thought of much differently - at least that's the way I conceived of the project. Interestingly, I think it makes a nice use case - if it fits within mission, that can help you get started and then grow from there as needed to fulfill other objectives. I'm actually not on this list, so am asking Deb to post for me (thanks, Deb!). If you have questions, I'm happy to answer them via email, first.last at brooklynmuseum.org. Many thanks, Shelley Bernstein Chief of Technology Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:15:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Here at the Connecticut Science Center, our wireless access points are setup with 3 SSID's. Two are hidden and one is public. We have allocated a certain about of bandwidth just for the public wireless VLAN. ** Check out our EVENTS Calendar here! Follow us on ** Nicole Schulz IT Manager Connecticut Science Center 250 Columbus Blvd. Hartford, CT 06103 860.520-2114 860.727.0850 (fax) nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org www.CTScienceCenter.org | (860) SCIENCE -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Christina DePaolo Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi, For those of you who offer public wi-fi, do mind sharing how you made it happen? What were the barriers you had to address? Visitors are asking for free wi-fi at SAM but our IT department is holding back because of resource issues, I think it has to do with bandwidth. Christina -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Matt Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:41 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi At Brooklyn Museum our philosophical rationale was largely community-based, but our funding rationale was mostly about collections database access for staff in storerooms and galleries--there was sort of a three-pronged approach of * VPN access to network from anywhere in the building * gallery technology like kiosks and handhelds and ... * general public access. Matt -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Steward, Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:25 PM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your reasons for doing so? Was it just as a perk to your visitors or was there something more to it? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Steward Architect for Applications Development 617-495-0785 jeff_steward at harvard.edumailto:jeff_steward at harvard.edu Harvard Art Museum 32 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 www.harvardartmuseum.orghttp://www.harvardartmuseum.org ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
If bandwidth is a concern, the addition of public wi-fi can help justify upgrades. The relative cost of increased bandwidth is hard to understand in the abstract, but if you can get buy-in from communications, education, etc., the actual cost is pretty easy to swallow. I provide public wi-fi at our Memorial (a three acre outdoor setting). The initial order was simply to provide data service for guide staff, but I got lots of additional support once I suggested using a captive portal on public wi-fi to communicate about our mission and activities. The portal page also includes a link to make free-will donations, both for our general operations and to defray the costs of providing the service. In addition, the extra utility allowed us to sign on with a service that can be throttled up if necessary. That's made it possible to webcast certain events directly on our own, saving us content distribution costs that previously made webcasting difficult. Dave Salovesh Information Technology Manager National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Christina DePaolo Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi, For those of you who offer public wi-fi, do mind sharing how you made it happen? What were the barriers you had to address? Visitors are asking for free wi-fi at SAM but our IT department is holding back because of resource issues, I think it has to do with bandwidth.
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Right, it's absolutely true that those of us who made it happen were motivated largely by the opportunity to address the museum's community-minded mission. But it was sometime after the success of the wifi that Brooklyn Museum accepted--on a truly institutional level--that technology could be part of that mission. Until then we always needed nuts-and-bolts reasons to do things, too. And I can say that as the IT Manager responsible for allocating scarce resources at that time, the care of the collection related benefits were always top-of-mind for me. The message for this list thread may be that one can put together lots of good reasons to do wifi, and that if you succeed in getting public access done as part of that, it could result in really positive impact on the perceived value and positioning of the technology department(s) within the institution. Find ways to attach the big ideas to basic needs and your institution will understand and support you. By the way, I'm speaking as an individual, not as a representative of any institution with which I've been associated. Matt -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah Wythe Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:29 AM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi all, I passed the thread to Shelley Bernstein, our Technology Chief, so she could comment directly on the Brooklyn Museum's wi-fi. Here's her response. Deb Wythe Hi Jeff, I just wanted to quickly weigh in on the wifi install at Brooklyn. The project was first conceived of as a community project - we had a new public plaza completed in 2004 and wanted to make it a welcoming place for the community. The original phase of the project was small in scope -- setup the initial network and get the Plaza, the Sculpture Garden and other public spaces online. It made sense given our mission and the new building project. I'm not sure that my recollection differs that much from Matt's - he is correct that later expansion inside the building meant showing different business cases, but the original project was thought of much differently - at least that's the way I conceived of the project. Interestingly, I think it makes a nice use case - if it fits within mission, that can help you get started and then grow from there as needed to fulfill other objectives. I'm actually not on this list, so am asking Deb to post for me (thanks, Deb!). If you have questions, I'm happy to answer them via email, first.last at brooklynmuseum.org. Many thanks, Shelley Bernstein Chief of Technology Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:15:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Here at the Connecticut Science Center, our wireless access points are setup with 3 SSID's. Two are hidden and one is public. We have allocated a certain about of bandwidth just for the public wireless VLAN. ** Check out our EVENTS Calendar here! Follow us on ** Nicole Schulz IT Manager Connecticut Science Center 250 Columbus Blvd. Hartford, CT 06103 860.520-2114 860.727.0850 (fax) nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org www.CTScienceCenter.org | (860) SCIENCE -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Christina DePaolo Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi, For those of you who offer public wi-fi, do mind sharing how you made it happen? What were the barriers you had to address? Visitors are asking for free wi-fi at SAM but our IT department is holding back because of resource issues, I think it has to do with bandwidth. Christina -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Matt Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:41 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi At Brooklyn Museum our philosophical rationale was largely community-based, but our funding rationale was mostly about collections database access for staff in storerooms and galleries--there was sort of a three-pronged approach of * VPN access to network from anywhere in the building * gallery technology like kiosks and handhelds and ... * general public access. Matt -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Steward, Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:25 PM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Thanks to all for your thoughtful responses. It has all been extremely helpful. Jeff -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Matt Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 12:41 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Right, it's absolutely true that those of us who made it happen were motivated largely by the opportunity to address the museum's community-minded mission. But it was sometime after the success of the wifi that Brooklyn Museum accepted--on a truly institutional level--that technology could be part of that mission. Until then we always needed nuts-and-bolts reasons to do things, too. And I can say that as the IT Manager responsible for allocating scarce resources at that time, the care of the collection related benefits were always top-of-mind for me. The message for this list thread may be that one can put together lots of good reasons to do wifi, and that if you succeed in getting public access done as part of that, it could result in really positive impact on the perceived value and positioning of the technology department(s) within the institution. Find ways to attach the big ideas to basic needs and your institution will understand and support you. By the way, I'm speaking as an individual, not as a representative of any institution with which I've been associated. Matt -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah Wythe Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:29 AM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi all, I passed the thread to Shelley Bernstein, our Technology Chief, so she could comment directly on the Brooklyn Museum's wi-fi. Here's her response. Deb Wythe Hi Jeff, I just wanted to quickly weigh in on the wifi install at Brooklyn. The project was first conceived of as a community project - we had a new public plaza completed in 2004 and wanted to make it a welcoming place for the community. The original phase of the project was small in scope -- setup the initial network and get the Plaza, the Sculpture Garden and other public spaces online. It made sense given our mission and the new building project. I'm not sure that my recollection differs that much from Matt's - he is correct that later expansion inside the building meant showing different business cases, but the original project was thought of much differently - at least that's the way I conceived of the project. Interestingly, I think it makes a nice use case - if it fits within mission, that can help you get started and then grow from there as needed to fulfill other objectives. I'm actually not on this list, so am asking Deb to post for me (thanks, Deb!). If you have questions, I'm happy to answer them via email, first.last at brooklynmuseum.org. Many thanks, Shelley Bernstein Chief of Technology Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com From: nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:15:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Here at the Connecticut Science Center, our wireless access points are setup with 3 SSID's. Two are hidden and one is public. We have allocated a certain about of bandwidth just for the public wireless VLAN. ** Check out our EVENTS Calendar here! Follow us on ** Nicole Schulz IT Manager Connecticut Science Center 250 Columbus Blvd. Hartford, CT 06103 860.520-2114 860.727.0850 (fax) nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org www.CTScienceCenter.org | (860) SCIENCE -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Christina DePaolo Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi, For those of you who offer public wi-fi, do mind sharing how you made it happen? What were the barriers you had to address? Visitors are asking for free wi-fi at SAM but our IT department is holding back because of resource issues, I think it has to do with bandwidth. Christina -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Matt Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:41 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi At Brooklyn Museum our philosophical rationale was largely community-based, but our funding rationale was mostly about collections database access for staff in storerooms and galleries--there was sort of a three-pronged approach of * VPN access to network from anywhere in the building * gallery technology like kiosks and handhelds and ... * general public access. Matt
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your reasons for doing so? Was it just as a perk to your visitors or was there something more to it? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Steward Architect for Applications Development 617-495-0785 jeff_steward at harvard.edumailto:jeff_steward at harvard.edu Harvard Art Museum 32 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 www.harvardartmuseum.orghttp://www.harvardartmuseum.org
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Originally, the impetus for installing public Wi-Fi here in Oakland was so that presenters in our big theater could access the internet easily for presentations. It was added to the restaurant at the same time as a perk. Carolyn Rissanen Registrar, Natural Sciences Oakland Museum of California 510-238-3885 www.museumca.org -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Steward, Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:25 AM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your reasons for doing so? Was it just as a perk to your visitors or was there something more to it? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Steward Architect for Applications Development 617-495-0785 jeff_steward at harvard.edumailto:jeff_steward at harvard.edu Harvard Art Museum 32 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 www.harvardartmuseum.orghttp://www.harvardartmuseum.org ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Hi, For those of you who offer public wi-fi, do mind sharing how you made it happen? What were the barriers you had to address? Visitors are asking for free wi-fi at SAM but our IT department is holding back because of resource issues, I think it has to do with bandwidth. Christina -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Matt Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:41 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi At Brooklyn Museum our philosophical rationale was largely community-based, but our funding rationale was mostly about collections database access for staff in storerooms and galleries--there was sort of a three-pronged approach of * VPN access to network from anywhere in the building * gallery technology like kiosks and handhelds and ... * general public access. Matt -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Steward, Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:25 PM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your reasons for doing so? Was it just as a perk to your visitors or was there something more to it? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Steward Architect for Applications Development 617-495-0785 jeff_steward at harvard.edumailto:jeff_steward at harvard.edu Harvard Art Museum 32 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 www.harvardartmuseum.orghttp://www.harvardartmuseum.org ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
Here at the Connecticut Science Center, our wireless access points are setup with 3 SSID's. Two are hidden and one is public. We have allocated a certain about of bandwidth just for the public wireless VLAN. ** Check out our EVENTS Calendar here! Follow us on ** Nicole Schulz IT Manager Connecticut Science Center 250 Columbus Blvd. Hartford, CT 06103 860.520-2114 860.727.0850 (fax) nschulz at ctsciencecenter.org www.CTScienceCenter.org? |? (860) SCIENCE? -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Christina DePaolo Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:09 PM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hi, For those of you who offer public wi-fi, do mind sharing how you made it happen? What were the barriers you had to address? Visitors are asking for free wi-fi at SAM but our IT department is holding back because of resource issues, I think it has to do with bandwidth. Christina -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Morgan, Matt Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:41 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi At Brooklyn Museum our philosophical rationale was largely community-based, but our funding rationale was mostly about collections database access for staff in storerooms and galleries--there was sort of a three-pronged approach of * VPN access to network from anywhere in the building * gallery technology like kiosks and handhelds and ... * general public access. Matt -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Steward, Jeff Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:25 PM To: mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: [MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your reasons for doing so? Was it just as a perk to your visitors or was there something more to it? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Steward Architect for Applications Development 617-495-0785 jeff_steward at harvard.edumailto:jeff_steward at harvard.edu Harvard Art Museum 32 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 www.harvardartmuseum.orghttp://www.harvardartmuseum.org ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] Reasons for providing public wi-fi
We are not quite in the same boat, being a science museum, but I will answer anyway. We installed a wireless network mainly because we have multiple meeting rooms that we rent out to other businesses/organizations and they pretty much demanded it. As our meeting rooms along with our computer lab are scattered all over the facility, we basicly ended up with building wide coverage. I have like 8 access points now. We have this semi-open to the public. It has an encryption key, but it is just the name of the facility and anyone that asks can get it. Up to now, the bandwidth drain of public use has been negligable. We HAVE had issues with the facilities rental groups eating up everything available, especially when they get 15-20 laptops going. I am in the process now of negotiating faster internet, which I hope will cure the issues. Elton Prater Exhibits, IT, Building Mgr Science Spectrum Lubbock, TX On 4/29/2010 11:24 AM, Steward, Jeff wrote: Hello all, For those of you that offer public Wi-Fi at your institution what were your reasons for doing so? Was it just as a perk to your visitors or was there something more to it? Thanks, Jeff -- Jeff Steward Architect for Applications Development 617-495-0785 jeff_steward at harvard.edumailto:jeff_steward at harvard.edu Harvard Art Museum 32 Quincy Street, Cambridge, MA 02138 www.harvardartmuseum.orghttp://www.harvardartmuseum.org ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
