Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
Connie is a prayerful, careful driver...she's gonna have to learn to DRIVE IT LIKE SHE STOLE IT! Now THAT will be something to see! Chris --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will work fine as an errand vehicle (with the trap removed). Just make sure it gets a good Italian tuneup at least once every few tankfuls to clear out the carbon that WILL accumulate from periods of light throttle and/or stop go. :) -dm -- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD! uh...and driving one in the city extreme abuse! Is that extreme abuse even with trap removed? Plan for this vehicle is to be wife's errand vehicle (kids and groceries around town)...luckily KCMO has more miles of higway per capita than any other city, so you are always on a highway going somewhere...Also will use it for family trips (Wisconsin, South Carolina)...is it going to irreperably suffer as an errand vehicle? Thanks, Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] OT, converting CD's to mp3
BZZZT How many MACs have YOU personally had this problem with? New or old? What do you thing the paper-clip hole is for? ___ GG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 5:48 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] OT, converting CD's to mp3 Ed Booher wrote: OpenFirmware, Baby! Hold down the mouse button while the Mac boots. CD ejects. LIKE MAGIC! From what I've heard, that works 99% of the time. The other 1% is a real pain. When copy-protected CDs started coming out there was a rash of problems with iMacs locking up and refusing to eject them. Apple refused to cover disassembling the computer and removing the CD under warranty, saying the fault was with the copy protection scheme. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT, converting CD's to mp3
Well some macs didn't have paper-clip holes, mind the manual usually indicated if you could stick a paper-clip in the CD slot edge somewhere instead. People forget Apple hasn't made custom drives for 10's of years now, so they use the off the self millions per order of CD drives everyone else does. Just because you can't mount the CD and see it in the finder doesn't mean you can eject it. Most current mac operating systems would have an eject button on the keyboard or F15 or something to do a keyboard eject, even under os-x there is a cmd line command to force an eject with the last resort of a keyboard command to eject via the firmware at boot time. On 27-Sep-05, at 4:08 PM, George Gregory wrote: BZZZT How many MACs have YOU personally had this problem with? New or old? What do you thing the paper-clip hole is for? ___ GG John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] '82 240D engine in a '79 300TD wagon?
David Goldsmith wrote: Hi! What body type and transmission would a '79 300TD wagon have and would either of these require substantial modification to use an '82 240D engine? Thanks! I don't think a tranny tuned for the five cylinder will work nicely with the 240D motor, although it might be possible to adjust it to work. The TD suspension will not work with a non TD engine, only the TD engines will have the facility to drive the hydraulic pump for the suspension. I believe somebody on this list got a euro 240D with towing package and wagon style suspension last year, but I don't think he'll be in a hurry to part it out.
Re: [MBZ] haynes/chiltons/? manual for 87 300TD?
Dude, I have one sitting in my lap right now that covers Coupes / Sedans / Wagons 1974 - 84 Repair Manual. Want to play Let's Make A Deal? On 9/27/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't seem to exist...or is it bunched in with other models that would not have shown up on a search. If it doesn't that makes it 0 for 3. Nothing in print for 85 300SD, 76 240D (W115) and now? Thanks for any references. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
And this would be your wife? On 9/27/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie is a prayerful, careful driver...she's gonna have to learn to DRIVE IT LIKE SHE STOLE IT! Now THAT will be something to see! Chris --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will work fine as an errand vehicle (with the trap removed). Just make sure it gets a good Italian tuneup at least once every few tankfuls to clear out the carbon that WILL accumulate from periods of light throttle and/or stop go. :) -dm -- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD! uh...and driving one in the city extreme abuse! Is that extreme abuse even with trap removed? Plan for this vehicle is to be wife's errand vehicle (kids and groceries around town)...luckily KCMO has more miles of higway per capita than any other city, so you are always on a highway going somewhere...Also will use it for family trips (Wisconsin, South Carolina)...is it going to irreperably suffer as an errand vehicle? Thanks, Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel
No need to adjust the timing for B99, though I've advanced my OM603 2 degrees to 13 degrees ATDC for other purposes. All of my diesel powered vehicles have run just fine on B100 with no modifications whatsoever...except for monitoring the fuel filters for the first few thousand miles after initial treatment. On 9/27/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: Assuming its timed right for petrol diesel, about how far forward should the timing be set for B99; or did these things have electronic timing control by '87? Thanks again. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (209k) '84 300D (204k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)
Re: [MBZ] Road manners (was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!)
Awww man... Here I was thinking I ought to come on and appologize for not seeing the humor in your post while a bunch of people did. Then I see this. Without going into a big tirade I do not find this humorous in the slightest. -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:18:08 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road manners (was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, These rules aren't only possible but are being implemented, as we speak, in the newly formed state of pertopia. You, my homosexual friend, have no vision. - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Sep 27 23:50:13 2005 Received: from web52106.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.48.109]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKPDA-0001CO-Vk for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:50:13 + Received: (qmail 53567 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2005 23:50:04 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Uj9aMNWmjLXzbEfpBjvsynyF1+OSSEoxIpWC72k3zve36INsESRB//qioMapxtYKu5lwSNx7vk3wvpixT3v7ORZKWygkwizEB9ZQHSUVBDjyWUfGQFvvRmaJ28N/UZkYIfwYWWodU0ue43XKDCY56cp1yxM9VmK6DrU+EqaZpIw= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [161.55.66.220] by web52106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:50:04 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 240D engine in a '79 300TD wagon? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:50:13 - 'Cause I crumpled my 240D recently, but I _think_ the engine is almost all good (new radiator, ?; car no longer in my possession, but I _think_ I could work w/ the guy who bought it from me for parts) and now someone near me is selling a '79 300TD wagon w/ a siezed up engine. Since the previous replies have more or less extinguished my idea, here's the listing for anyone who wants an engine swap project: http://seattle.craigslist.com/car/100349398.html DG --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking as a 240D owner, why would you do that? On 9/27/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! What body type and transmission would a '79 300TD wagon have and would either of these require substantial modification to use an '82 240D engine? Thanks! DG __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] OT, converting CD's to mp3
George Gregory wrote: BZZZT How many MACs have YOU personally had this problem with? New or old? What do you thing the paper-clip hole is for? There is no paper clip hole I can see on a Mac Mini. I'm told iMacs don't have them, either. Maybe it would interfere with the new-age styling that seems to be the main focus of those systems. There's a lot I like about Apple, but their hardware design can be kind of bone-headed at times. I still remember the intentionally crippled memory subsystem on the LCII I had.
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay
Phillip,
Its a 400watt blockheater, my 400watt inverter handles it with no worries. I
use a 110ah marine battery and 20 minutes is plenty to start my car down to
-15F out in the driveway. Cars don't suffer from windchill anyway.
At -20F an hour on the heater gets everything going just fine. I usually take
the battery down and get everything connected up. Come back up and jump in a
nice hot shower, eat breakfast and check my email. Then go down and start the
car, leave it running while I bring the battery back upstairs and put it on the
charger. If its -20F I'll maybe have another cup of coffee, I know its naughty
but at -20F I like to have some heat... Contrary to what I've read on this list
my car will develop enopugh heat to warm the cab at idle in 5-7 minutes. I have
a 40 mile one way commute so I'm not terribly worried about any carbon
developing in that time.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:29:56 -0500
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rumor has it that Kevin wrote:
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:34:14AM -0700, Curt Raymond wrote:
Old style glowplugs so I'll
want to convert. How well can one with converted glowplugs be
expected to
start in the cold? Right now at about 0F I start getting nervous
('83 240D)
and at -5F I've gotta put the block heater on which is a project
because I
live in a 3rd floor walkup with nowhere to plugin the car. I've got
a 110ah
marine battery and 400watt inverter that I haul down to the car and
20
minutes later it starts with no problems all the way down to -20F
which is
about as cold as it ever gets here.
After messing with series plugs last night, I think I like messing
with
them better than the parallel ones. SO SIMPLE.
The relay circuit is simpler - but it in not that series is inherently
simpler than parallel.
The two problems I see with the series system Mercedes used:
* About 1/2 of the heat created is in the toaster wires - outside
of the engine!!
* Any problem with any connection or heater will affect _all_ the
plugs,
not just the one with troubles.
You know, with some creativity, you could use an RV charging system
(allows
charge but not discharge), and run dual batteries, leaving one for an
onboard
inverter for your block heater. The battery will charge up as you
drive, as
long as you don't do short trips with a 4000 watt ghetto blaster like
Spud
has hooked up in his 300D :)
Hmmm.
That would take a _lot_ of battery.
The block heater is about 750 watts. With an inverter that is 100%
efficient (impossible) that is about 55 amps at 13.6 V !!!
My experience is the block heater is almost useless if it is powered
for
less than 1 hour. By 2 hours, it's help is noticable; and 3-4 hours is
long enough for my garage-parked (no wind) cars for any temperatures I
find here in central Missouri.
So, to get 3 hours of full power you should prabably figure on at least
200 amp-hour batter capacity.
Philip, dreaming of some day finding diesel-fire block
heaters - that cost _less_ than the car.
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So I assume it has the 3rd seat?
Christopher McCann wrote:
Apparently the man I bought it from's grand kids
called it Little Red
[MBZ] Biodiesel mpg benefits from timing advance? (was Approx. 35mpg from an '87 Mercedes 300D TURBO Diesel)
My recently deceased '82 240D ran fine on B99, but underperformed in the mpg category (though I imagine part of that was probably my average speed over 70mph); I noticed no such problem w/ my '03 TDI (same mpg, more or less, with B99 or B0). It was suggested to me by more than one party (incl. here on this list, I believe) that this _might_ be alleviated by advancing the timing a little; this didn't need to be done, it was claimed, on the TDI 'cause the electronic timing control was automatically doing it dynamically. DG --- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need to adjust the timing for B99, though I've advanced my OM603 2 degrees to 13 degrees ATDC for other purposes. All of my diesel powered vehicles have run just fine on B100 with no modifications whatsoever...except for monitoring the fuel filters for the first few thousand miles after initial treatment. On 9/27/05, David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: Assuming its timed right for petrol diesel, about how far forward should the timing be set for B99; or did these things have electronic timing control by '87? Thanks again. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (209k) '84 300D (204k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed
No, the 240D did not. Marshall Booth wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: If the car has automatic climate control, my bet is the servo isn't parking. That fuse may be in an inline holder separate from the fuse box. I don't believe that the 240D ever came with the servo controlled climate control system. We ARE still talking about a 123.123 240D aren't we? Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
What is the German phrase for, When God told Adam and Eve to go forth and populate the earth, he wasn't giving you an assignment? Do not see this as your personal responsibility. I have but four words for you, Chris, having reared three kids, now age (guessing here about the oldest, I am bad in math) ... well, youngest is 18, biological kids were born 1976 and 1978 [do NOT say it!] ... CAR INSURANCE UNIVERSITY TUITION(s) Dude, you are screwed! Don On 9/27/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is cute...especially since it will mainly haul around my wife and 4 (soon to be 5) daughters. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!
I too have noticed over the years that 123 240D's feel MUCH slower than 115 versions. Talking about autos, not sticks. Same probably applies though. B Dike wrote: Gentlemen, An auto 240D is not necessarily slow. Our 75 (W115) isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough to maneuver and stay ahead of traffic. It has a great crisp motor and tranny. It seems to be geared low, not sure, but it definitely feels nimble and responsive. On the other hand, the 77 240D (W123, manual) was abysmally slow when I got it last year. It is steadily improving with M1 and hard driving but has a long way to go to catch up with the W115. I think it is heavier than the W123, at least it feels that way. I drove another W123 240D the other day and it was a slug, although the owner crowed about its strong motor. But I know of at least one 240D that isn't slow. Bruce -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
[MBZ] another TD recall?
Marshall, Does this still apply to my 87 300TD? http://internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/67-int/1987/mercedes-benz/300-series/300td/index.html Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil / additive advice
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:54:27AM -0400, BillR wrote: I'm retired with cardiac issues at 55. I didn't even know they COULD replace a stent, and I am just as happy I decided to take a nap while the cutter balloon with it's ten razors was working in there. Maybe a transfusion of Mobil 1 would help me. From what I understand, stents have defined, finite lives, and if you get one in your late forties or fifties, the likelihood of needing a replacement stent is not all that low. K
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay
because its a 115.010 Curt Raymond wrote: Tom, How can you tell? I didn't even notice that it didn't say 220D until somebody else mentioned it and I went back and checked. -Curt From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Mercedes-Benz_W0QQitemZ4578223230QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem That's a gasser. Tom - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
Yes: http://www.pictureblogger.com/album01/DSCN2202 She will just have to learn to floor it :-) Chris --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this would be your wife? On 9/27/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie is a prayerful, careful driver...she's gonna have to learn to DRIVE IT LIKE SHE STOLE IT! Now THAT will be something to see! Chris --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will work fine as an errand vehicle (with the trap removed). Just make sure it gets a good Italian tuneup at least once every few tankfuls to clear out the carbon that WILL accumulate from periods of light throttle and/or stop go. :) -dm -- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD! uh...and driving one in the city extreme abuse! Is that extreme abuse even with trap removed? Plan for this vehicle is to be wife's errand vehicle (kids and groceries around town)...luckily KCMO has more miles of higway per capita than any other city, so you are always on a highway going somewhere...Also will use it for family trips (Wisconsin, South Carolina)...is it going to irreperably suffer as an errand vehicle? Thanks, Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Road manners (was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!)
What? Am I suddenly on Banned? Gay bashing on Diesel? Don [straight but with gay friends, and not amused] On 9/27/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt, These rules aren't only possible but are being implemented, as we speak, in the newly formed state of pertopia. You, my homosexual friend, have no vision. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
Yes, wouldn't have even looked at it otherwise. Chris --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I assume it has the 3rd seat? Christopher McCann wrote: Apparently the man I bought it from's grand kids called it Little Red Riding Hood...which is cute...especially since it will mainly haul around my wife and 4 (soon to be 5) daughters. I have to say I'm partial to a German name...Ursula...? translation: kleine rot ___ __? Chris -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay
That's a gasser.Asked about it the other day. Mike
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Mercedes-Benz_W0QQitemZ4578223230QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:54:25 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay
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Do you still have its link?
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 140K
Litchfield Park,AZ
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From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay
Kaleb posted a '69 220D from eBay the other day, its in my area so I
asked
the guy for more pictures. The one picture on eBay looks really nice
so
I'm thinking this might be a good car to own, assuming the blower
motor
works and I don't mind having somebody else change the oil (twist my
arm).
Anything else I should know about those cars? Old style glowplugs so
I'll
want to convert. How well can one with converted glowplugs be
expected to
start in the cold? Right now at about 0F I start getting nervous ('83
240D) and at -5F I've gotta put the block heater on which is a
project
because I live in a 3rd floor walkup with nowhere to plugin the car.
I've
got a 110ah marine battery and 400watt inverter that I haul down to
the
car and 20 minutes later it starts with no problems all the way down
to -20F which is about as cold as it ever gets here.
-Curt
'83 240D Hammie 245kmi
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Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
Uh, yea, ... I think I've seen those pics. NOW, tell me how you are going to pay for car insurance on two Benz diesels and five TransAms. And do NOT fool yourself into thinking that any of your daughters will want Daddy's car! On 9/28/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes: http://www.pictureblogger.com/album01/DSCN2202 She will just have to learn to floor it :-) Chris --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this would be your wife? On 9/27/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie is a prayerful, careful driver...she's gonna have to learn to DRIVE IT LIKE SHE STOLE IT! Now THAT will be something to see! Chris --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will work fine as an errand vehicle (with the trap removed). Just make sure it gets a good Italian tuneup at least once every few tankfuls to clear out the carbon that WILL accumulate from periods of light throttle and/or stop go. :) -dm -- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD! uh...and driving one in the city extreme abuse! Is that extreme abuse even with trap removed? Plan for this vehicle is to be wife's errand vehicle (kids and groceries around town)...luckily KCMO has more miles of higway per capita than any other city, so you are always on a highway going somewhere...Also will use it for family trips (Wisconsin, South Carolina)...is it going to irreperably suffer as an errand vehicle? Thanks, Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] runaway 300SDL, diesels CAN smoke the tires
Hate it when that happens. bill s So Regina calls and says that the SDL all the sudden started accelerating out of control. So I head back to check out the situation. Apparantly the linkage to the IP broke(looks like plastic) and stuck the IP to full open throttle. I mean FULL open. So I start it up, slam it into reverse as quick as I can before it revs up too high, BAMM, smoking tires, then to drive, smokes the tires for a block or 2 it seems. Anyways, got it home, shut off engine as I was turning into driveway. By the time I got back home(only a couple of miles) brakes sure were smoking from trying to bring the speed down. Next I will try some JB weld or something to fix that linkage. Hope I dont have to pull the manifold. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. On 9/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was behind me is staying behind me to the top of the hill which is only about 1/4 - 1/2 mile. So at least once a week I'll get some jackass who absolutely can't wait. They always act the same. They'll start weaving back and forth in the lane, then they'll pull right up onto my back bumper, then they'll back off and lay on the horn. I always give them a friendly wave at that point. I used to have a bumper sticker on my diesel Vanagon that said, 48 HORSEPOWER - PLEASE, JUST PASS. I figured people were less likely to get angry if I could get them laughing first. I don't get angry at slow drivers, except for the ones who get panicky and hit the brakes on entrance ramps, when they should be speeding up. If they want to commit suicide that's fine, but they shouldn't get me involved. ;) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] runaway 300SDL, diesels CAN smoke the tires
You CAN access every bit of the linkage with the manifold in situ, but patience is required. I've fiddled with these items far more times than I care to recall. I used epoxy to fix the plastic ball joints on the sliding linkage between the IP and CC servo bracket. On 9/27/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Regina calls and says that the SDL all the sudden started accelerating out of control. So I head back to check out the situation. Apparantly the linkage to the IP broke(looks like plastic) and stuck the IP to full open throttle. I mean FULL open. So I start it up, slam it into reverse as quick as I can before it revs up too high, BAMM, smoking tires, then to drive, smokes the tires for a block or 2 it seems. Anyways, got it home, shut off engine as I was turning into driveway. By the time I got back home(only a couple of miles) brakes sure were smoking from trying to bring the speed down. Next I will try some JB weld or something to fix that linkage. Hope I dont have to pull the manifold. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (209k) '84 300D (204k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)
[MBZ] 124 sunroom PM
My sunroof is working fine in my 124 but I would like to keep it that way. Can the the sunroof actually be removed by a mere mortal and relubed with Gleitpaste? I've repaired the roof in my 123 and it works wonderfully. Is preventative maintenance something I can do without fear of screwing something up on my 124 sunroof? Ralph Wasserbaech '83 300CD my car '90 300D '01 E320 Wagonwife's cars '82 300TD parts car '82 240D (just sold) '82 300TD currently smashed From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 28 00:59:03 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.202]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKQHm-ob-UW for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:59:03 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p8so661334nzb for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:58:58 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s¾ta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=R0jzcsRB/OUoMfWKmpjaKH63aKK8c3Z0qUYpY5a6XJSvPECNLZambDl1fJb4Zlp/i7LeKl1Tc5deUncBsyYcHKXrdllvTb44wH/+qz9w0TVcfQJV6w+QgqjcNiHUtMjW2B9X2TOlsPxn+O0e19IWymcOLJuFnvjdG6aZ68wJqRkReceived: by 10.54.11.50 with SMTP id 50mr2006811wrk; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.146.8 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:58:58 + From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 00:59:03 - I got really really pissed today. I flipped someone off and my daughter's former junior high teacher saw me, and I think for a moment thought I was flipping him off. I had 15 minutes to get paperwork to a place 15 minutes from my office. I left about the time the junior high got out. Got down by the junior high, and this IDIOT in front of me (I have no idea who he was, but the wave from the music teacher told me he was also a teacher) FREEKIN' STOPPED in front of the school, right blinker on. He then proceeded to wave FOUR school busses out. Bear in mind that this is a four lane road, so the busses could only move when there was no traffic coming from the north or from the inside lane headed north. After bus one, I hit the ruptured duck horn on my 240D and screamed out the window, 'Move your damn ass. ... No response. I hit my horn again. No response. If only I'd had a 9 mm (this coming from an anti-gun liberal!) Anyway, after four busses and a good four minutes, the guy turned right, clearing the lane. I floored my 240D (yea, I know, laugh) and extended left hand, middle finger, out of the window. At that point, my daughter's junior high (she is now a high school senior) band teacher made contact with me. I ... well, sort of ... waved back. I will have to give Matt a phone call tomorrow to explain. Oh, I got the paperwork there with about 3 minutes to spare ... after following a Parker Wagon down the highway (only farm country folks will understand what a Parker Wagon is). Don On 9/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was behind me is staying behind me to the top of the hill which is only about 1/4 - 1/2 mile. So at least once a week I'll get some jackass who absolutely can't wait. They always act the same. They'll start weaving back and forth in the lane, then they'll pull right up onto my back bumper, then they'll back off and lay on the horn. I always give them a friendly wave at that point. I used to have a bumper sticker on my diesel Vanagon that said, 48 HORSEPOWER - PLEASE, JUST PASS. I figured people were less likely to get angry if I could get them laughing first. I don't get angry at slow drivers, except for the ones who get panicky and hit the brakes on entrance ramps, when they should be speeding up. If they want
Re: [MBZ] Oops! 124 sunroof PM
Sorry, subject should have read sunroof! Ralph Wasserbaech '83 300CD my car '90 300D '01 E320 Wagonwife's cars '82 300TD parts car '82 240D (just sold) '82 300TD currently smashed
Re: [MBZ] '69 220D on eBay
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: because its a 115.010 A 220D is a 115.110, a 115.010 is a 220 gasser. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
they are already programmed to want benzes...maybe an SLK700 by that time :-) PART TIME JOB. It's not like I invented the idea of a large family. I know lots of people who do it. Also, I get a raise with each additional kid...nice to work for a company with a (Catholic) conscience. Only thing I need to do is keep the $ coming in (I'm marketing), which I've increased 300% in the last 5 years. Chris --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, yea, ... I think I've seen those pics. NOW, tell me how you are going to pay for car insurance on two Benz diesels and five TransAms. And do NOT fool yourself into thinking that any of your daughters will want Daddy's car! On 9/28/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes: http://www.pictureblogger.com/album01/DSCN2202 She will just have to learn to floor it :-) Chris --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this would be your wife? On 9/27/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Connie is a prayerful, careful driver...she's gonna have to learn to DRIVE IT LIKE SHE STOLE IT! Now THAT will be something to see! Chris --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will work fine as an errand vehicle (with the trap removed). Just make sure it gets a good Italian tuneup at least once every few tankfuls to clear out the carbon that WILL accumulate from periods of light throttle and/or stop go. :) -dm -- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD! uh...and driving one in the city extreme abuse! Is that extreme abuse even with trap removed? Plan for this vehicle is to be wife's errand vehicle (kids and groceries around town)...luckily KCMO has more miles of higway per capita than any other city, so you are always on a highway going somewhere...Also will use it for family trips (Wisconsin, South Carolina)...is it going to irreperably suffer as an errand vehicle? Thanks, Chris ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, The Van - FOR SALE $6500 (and that's a good deal). __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1987 300TD, 145K miles, Rotkäppchen -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative
[MBZ] '83 280TE FS in Canada
I saw this on Craigslist in London ,Ont. Sounds very interesting and rare. Thought some of my neighbors in Ontario might be interested. It is a bit pricey though. http://detroit.craigslist.org/car/100387557.html Ralph Wasserbaech '83 300CD my car '90 300D '01 E320 Wagonwife's cars '82 300TD parts car '82 240D (just sold) '82 300TD currently smashed From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 28 01:24:37 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.198.43]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKQgW-0004GO-Nn for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:24:37 + Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with ESMTP id 2005092801243101400ktosqe; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:24:32 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:54 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] another TD recall? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 01:24:37 - Christopher McCann wrote: Marshall, Does this still apply to my 87 300TD? http://internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/67-int/1987/mercedes-benz/300-series/300td/index.html That recall will still be in effect unless the part has already been replaced. A call to Mercedes with your VIN number will answer that. The part that's replaced is a plastic throttle bushing. The original bushings fail from age and heat and I recommend that one be carried in the glovebox of ALL 201 and 124 diesels. I had one fail only a few months ago (hadn't had one fail in 4-5 years). I believe that every one of the bushing on all of my cars HAVE now been replaced and only one of the replacement bushing has failed again (the replacement bushings are plastic vs the rubberized original part that gets soft when heated). For some unknown reason, the exact same part with the same characteristics in a similar environment used on 201s were NOT recalled - but they failed in exactly the same way. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
LT Don wrote: I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. In 1977 it is 62 hp and 67 hp in 1980!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
[MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
I'm looking at a 1987 420SEL - 103Kmi, everything works, little to no rust. Timing chain changed, oil changed often, new radiator. What are the issues on these particular cars? I've only owned diesel MBs. Also, the guy wants $4k. Reasonable, or 2x reasonable? -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed - Solved?
When I needed a alternator for mine the prices were usually around $100 for a remanufactured one and thats a genuine Bosch. Thats a 55 amp so they aren't overly expensive B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I found the problem. The alternator isn't generating any current. The barcode label on it says World Class Remanufacturing. Thanks all for the help. Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D power steering vibration
Thanks Kevin and Marshall. I'll change the fluid and filter (think I already have one I bought as a spare) and report back if it's still doing it. On 9/27/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 12:01:25PM -0700, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Lately on cold mornings my 300D is exhibiting a slight vibration when turning the steering wheel, independent of road speed. It feels almost like the boost is coming and going at a constant rate of five or ten Hz. If this were an engine with separate accessory drive belts, I'd immediately suspect a loose or slipping power steering belt, but this is a 603 (with the one serpentine belt). The PS fluid level is right and the fluid itself looks and smells normal, although I don't know when it was last changed, if ever. Any other suggestions? Is my PS pump dying? Probably the power steering filter needs replacing. I'd replace it sooner than later (before it gets worse and cavitates the pump), especially since it's cheap. K
Re: [MBZ] Mac CD drive
On 9/27/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:54:27 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: , There are some lock-up bugs in the CD-ROM drives on Macs, and Apple is still the only computer manufacturer that doesn't provide *any* means of mechanically ejecting a CD that the drive won't eject itself. Falsimundo!! My G4's Superdrive has a litle spring loaded cover over it's maw which can be opened just by pulling on it's face a bit. I just lifted the corner of the scotch-tape like covering and opened 'er up. Which exposed the good old paperclip manual release hole. Which hole has existed on Macs for both the floppy and CD since the late '80s. On Mac floppy drives it's been there since the first 128K Mac in 1984, if you want to get pedantic about it. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D opinion
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:55:40PM -0500, OK Don wrote: I'm looking at an eBay '87 300D that the owner says the following about when questioned about the condition of the car: The injection pump may be an issue in the future, it is adjusted correctly so the engine idles smooth and has all the correct power, but the setting is out of spec to get a correctly running engine. Does that sounds scary, or not an issue for a 603.960 engine? I would say that there's still enough 124s out there with that engine that I'd avoid that one. Dinking with an IP that really needs no dinking, in order to make it idle better? Things can get rather expensive on a neglected 60x rather quickly. K
Re: [MBZ] 124 sunroof PM
Thanks Peter. That part of the disassembly sounds very similar to the 123 which I am pretty intimate with. Ralph Wasserbaech '83 300CD my car '90 300D '01 E320 Wagonwife's cars '82 300TD parts car '82 240D (just sold) '82 300TD currently smashed
[MBZ] (no subject)
Gabriel S wrote: the 124 gets good fuel economy for weighing close to 5,000lbs, but 35mpg is insane...i never get that much, and if im pushing it, forget it! The real truth - Not only is it not insane to get this kind of mileage, but the 124 does not weigh anything close to 5,000 lbs. My 124, a 1990 300D 2.5 247K, will get 35 mpg. It just did on a long trip that I took. On a trip where I was really pushing it lost of turnpike time at 80-85. I averaged over 1000 miles 33mpg. The 1990's 124 with the 2.5 get significantly better mileage then the other 124's. In fact, the best performing Mercedes Diesels (in terms of mileage) have the 2.5. I am talking about the 190D 2.5. Those cars are widely reported to get 40-45 with a manual. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
OK then, the long 126 chassis is great. The 560 has even more power, but I would look at condition before quibbling over engine size. I really like the 300SDL. Same chassis, wonderful Diesel engine. On 9/27/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Don, I don't care about gas costs. I've driven fuel-sippers long enough that it's time to balance the scales. On 9/27/05, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice long wheel base Benz, low mileage for its age. Only a test drive will tell Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you dont have to burn premium on those things. OK Don wrote: The fuel mileage??? Premium gasoline??? What are the issues on these particular cars? I've only owned diesel MBs. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
[MBZ] 35 mpg in some 124's!
Gabriel S wrote: the 124 gets good fuel economy for weighing close to 5,000lbs, but 35mpg is insane...i never get that much, and if im pushing it, forget it! The real truth - Not only is it not insane to get this kind of mileage, but the 124 does not weigh anything close to 5,000 lbs. My 124, a 1990 300D 2.5 247K, will get 35 mpg. It just did on a long trip that I took. On a trip where I was really pushing it lost of turnpike time at 80-85. I averaged over 1000 miles 33mpg. The 1990's 124 with the 2.5 get significantly better mileage then the other 124's. In fact, the best performing Mercedes Diesels (in terms of mileage) have the 2.5. I am talking about the 190D 2.5. Those cars are widely reported to get 40-45 with a manual. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 4, Issue 221
Peter, I think fresh beer would be in order, though we'd need to do the party somewhere other than Dunn's since adult beverages are not allowed. I'd say your campground is a great idea, unfortunately Memorial day is tree planting week for me. Say that gives me an idea. I've got 85 acres in northern Maine we're converting into a tree farm. Usually we take the week before Memorial day and my wife and my folks and I plant around 1,000 trees. If we had a Benz get together all sorts of people could get the chance to plant trees too! -Curt Thinking like Tom Sawyer Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 05:37:31 -0400 From: Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Chowder Q Revisted To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, Do I have to save the Sam Adams for the next one? Maybe I'll buy fresh. I was saved from a fate worse than death, SHMBO wanted me to escort her to an Eastern Star function. That requires Tux and no booze just when you need it most. Nice Park! I'd be happy to assist in catering, we do a lot of that for our Masonic friends. We simply need a date and commitment from 10 or more folks to show up. Thought: I own a small piece of a campground in Brenardston, MA. That near Greenfield. On Memorial day there is a very large tractor/one lung engine/flea market about ? mile outside town. Here is also a reasonable motel very close. -- Peter T. Arnold Windsor, Connecticut U.S.A. - Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 28 13:18:36 2005 Received: from wsip-24-249-104-140.ks.ks.cox.net ([24.249.104.140] helo=mtsqhexc1.mtsqh.com) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EKbpU-0003BO-LC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:18:36 + content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:11:52 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: 1987 420SEL for sale Thread-Index: AcXELjGK1mAWb5FlTFyhyDPeQ4FvVw== From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:18:37 - Sunil wrote: =20 I'm looking at a 1987 420SEL - 103Kmi, everything works, little to no rust. Timing chain changed, oil changed often, new radiator. Also, the guy wants $4k. Reasonable, or 2x reasonable? =20 I am very interested in what you find out. I looked at one of these cars, too. Some of them are very nice.=20 =20 $4k sounds like a steal for a car with only 103,000. I have seen these cars going for 5995 with 170,000 miles. I have a friend who bought an exceptionally nice one (cleanest used car I have ever seen) with over 200k for $6,500 (I think that is a little high, but it was a nice car).=20 =20 =20 Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A.=20 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. =20 =20
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
If everything works and there is no major rust or dents then its a steal if you really like it. Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil wrote: I'm looking at a 1987 420SEL - 103Kmi, everything works, little to no rust. Timing chain changed, oil changed often, new radiator. Also, the guy wants $4k. Reasonable, or 2x reasonable? I am very interested in what you find out. I looked at one of these cars, too. Some of them are very nice. $4k sounds like a steal for a car with only 103,000. I have seen these cars going for 5995 with 170,000 miles. I have a friend who bought an exceptionally nice one (cleanest used car I have ever seen) with over 200k for $6,500 (I think that is a little high, but it was a nice car). Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
I have had two of these, both 87's and in great shape. One was black on black with 114K I bought for 4k about 4 years ago. Drove it for a year and the neighbor down the street offered me 6K for it, so I sold it. Other was smoke silver with maroon interior, very nice as well with 158K on it. I bought it for $1500 as a winter car a few years ago, sold it for $3100 to the first guy who looked at it when I bought my e320 last year. I have seen quite a few on Craig's list in NY for 2K range, but their mileage is higher. Not sure where you are, but rust is an issue here and can affect the price quite a bit. With more miles, you are probably looking at valve seals at some point. Personally, I always wanted the 560, mostly for the heated seat feature usually not found on the 420. Dave W - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale I'm looking at a 1987 420SEL - 103Kmi, everything works, little to no rust. Timing chain changed, oil changed often, new radiator. What are the issues on these particular cars? I've only owned diesel MBs. Also, the guy wants $4k. Reasonable, or 2x reasonable? -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With more miles, you are probably looking at valve seals at some point. Personally, I always wanted the 560, mostly for the heated seat feature usually not found on the 420. I recently heard from a local part supplier that there is some ignition control box(?) under the hood of the w126 V8s that has jumped from $500 to $2000 in a few years. Is that correct, or some urban legend that got thrown my way? Mac
Re: [MBZ] clones?
I always saw rusted out cars as a sign of neglect, but considering rust proofing has come along way one would expect these Japanese cars to fair better than 30 year old Benz's. The Japanese have taken lessons from us about rust proofing. David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry wrote: I see alot of older Honda's around here and its the same thing, rusty but still running. Thats not reliability in my opinion, thats cheap workmanship. A truly dependable car should not only stand the test of time but look good too. Guess thats why we all like our Benz's My Benz is plenty rusty, to the point where I expect the body to give out long before the engine does. I understand Mercedes's rust proofing improved some time in the late 80s or early 90s, but so did Honda's. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
[MBZ] This is bizarre...
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Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD!
I had almost the same symtoms. I have records from the previous owner but it doesn't show when the trap was replaced. I had a bad temp sensor in car (plus other issues) and managed to overheat the engine on the way home one time. That was enough to start the process of coolant loss. I was only using the 300TD to go back and forth to the bus stop so I lived with it for a while, but the clouds of white smoke in the cool mornings were really getting outrageous and so I went out and found a #17 head. I think I paid $850 + shipping from TN to PA. And that was my cheapest find and it took a while to locate. I'd pay attention to what Dave's saying. He may be overly cautious on this one, but you don't want to have to find a head, take it from me. ...Kevin 87 300TD 277k miles Dave M. said: My 617 also likes to keep some pressure in the system when cold, but it's not the 15-20psi that I observed with the 603 cracked heads. I wouldn't worry about it on a 61x engine, or even 601/602, unless there are other symptoms. On a 603 however I'd be monitoring the situation very closely. Some of you may remember Justin Dobbs from a previous MB email list, who had the perssure syndrome and ignored it, as most people do. About a year later it started using coolant and then hydrolocked. I think he ended up getting a used engine to swap in, something about damage to the block surface (I forget though.) I think I heard of nearly a dozen failed heads in the past 18 months or so, from the email list and various MB web forums. FWIW, a brand new head is about $1600 (wholesale) from Rusty... less than half that for a good used #17 head. =) -dm -- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:01:21 -0700 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my 87 300TD! My '84 OM617 also maintains pressure in the cooling system for long periods, and it hasn't shown any signs of overheating or coolant loss to date. Until I observe some other signs of cooling system anomalies, I'll continue to happily drive both engine types like I stole em. MMMV unter Druck Casey Olympia, WA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] clones?
I have to admit I would certainly love to get my hands on a Honda S2000 as a replacemnt for my Mustang Cobra that I sadly had to sell. The sound of a screaming engine at 8,000 rpms just boils my blood. Its too bad that a lot of the Honda, Toyotas and even the others like Kia are starting to look a lot like each other. Yep, I would say bland is the word here except for Nissan who has taken a real sporting image over the last few years. I still like the 280Z's of the 70's and the last few that were made in the 90's. Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see alot of older Honda's around here and its the same thing, rusty but still running. Thats not reliability in my opinion, thats cheap workmanship. A truly dependable car should not only stand the test of time but look good too. To be fair, I think that needs to be seen through the lens of the original pricing on Hondas. I am lukewarm on most Toyotas, but I have a great amount of respect for Honda products. They don't match my criteria for a complete quality automobile, but IMHO they deliver a great amount of bang for the buck and their styling manages to be contemporary without being stupid or overdone. Nissan has really turned itself around over the last five years or so as well. Mac ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] This is bizarre...
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Re: [MBZ] This is bizarre...
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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
My 1983 300TD with 276 K miles has suffered diminishing fuel economy over time (more accurately, I have been doing the suffering). Now, I get about 20 mpg in typical stop and go city driving, with the occasional 10 mile interstate cruise thrown in for good measure. 10 years ago it was more like 24 mpg although this probably involved somewhat more highway driving. The car operates flawlessly otherwise. Is there anything I can do to get back to 24 mpg? On 9/27/05, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I can say that my S500 got 21 mpg (the highest ever) at 90 - 100 mph. epa rating is 13, 17, 15 That car *like* higher speeds On 27-Sep-05, at 12:23 PM, Donald Snook wrote: So I think this car really likes to run at higher speeds. John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!
I have no idea what a Parker Wagon is. Please elaborate or explain to us city folk. On 9/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. In 1977 it is 62 hp and 67 hp in 1980!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OH BOY
I could just barf. On 9/27/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-1979-300SD-Mercedes-Benz-chevy-350-conversion_W0QQitemZ4578643782QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] clones?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Im assuming that was a joke. Harry wrote: I see alot of older Honda's around here and its the same thing, rusty but still running. Thats not reliability in my opinion, thats cheap workmanship. A truly dependable car should not only stand the test of time but look good too. Guess thats why we all like our Benz's OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same story from those I've talked to as well. The drive train keeps going, but the body/chassis is falling apart around it. On 9/27/05, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering a couple of people I know who are long term owners of Honda and Toyotas even admitted that they weren't as good as they use to be. They still have decent engines and tranny's but the rest of the car is nothing more than crappy recycled plastic and metal. Buttons and knobs that fall off and even plastic trim that doesn't look like its suppose to be there. Their quality seems to be focused on their upscale Lexus's and Acuras cause both Honda's and Toyotas are going down the crapper David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] OH BOY
What?! What?! What's wrong? I can't eBay from Work!! Gahhh!!! On 9/28/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could just barf. On 9/27/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SD-1979-300SD-Mercedes-Benz-chevy-350-conversion_W0QQitemZ4578643782QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Injection pump. Gabriel S. wrote: what is an ip?
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
I kill you now and steal rust free 450! Muhahahahaahaaha Err... uhh I mean So ... where's it located? On 9/28/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Also, what mileage can I expect on the road? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed - Solved?
did you pull the VR and make sure it's not just worn out brushes? isildur On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, B Dike wrote: I think I found the problem. The alternator isn't generating any current. The barcode label on it says World Class Remanufacturing. Thanks all for the help. Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting Help Needed - Solved?
Yes, the brushes looked fine, just like those in the picture Marshall posted. B. --- G.E. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you pull the VR and make sure it's not just worn out brushes? isildur On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, B Dike wrote: I think I found the problem. The alternator isn't generating any current. The barcode label on it says World Class Remanufacturing. Thanks all for the help. Bruce --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B Dike wrote: All, My 77 240D battery is draining every couple days. It occurs with a couple different good batteries, so it's either the charging system or a current drain. Is there a simple way to check the alternater and voltage regulator? I only have a small multimeter. If a replacement alternator is required, the most reliable option is a GENUINE Bosch rebuild (that's not just a rebuilt Bosch alternator, but one that BOSCH rebuilds) that will come with a 2 year warranty including road service. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 333kmi 'His' 85 300CD 234kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 185kmi 'Theirs' (Back in Commission) 77 240D 199kmi 'The Brown Car' __ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
Re: [MBZ] '87 300D opinion
OK Don wrote: I'm looking at an eBay '87 300D that the owner says the following about when questioned about the condition of the car: The injection pump may be an issue in the future, it is adjusted correctly so the engine idles smooth and has all the correct power, but the setting is out of spec to get a correctly running engine. Does that sounds scary, or not an issue for a 603.960 engine? I would NOT suggest buying a car that has had the injection pump adjusted. Maybe the ALDA tweaked, but NOTHING else. The pumps should last about as long as the engine, should NOT need adjustment and there are VERY few shops capable of adjusting the pump properly (when properly adjusted it runs fine at idle AND on the highway ;-)! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
Must ... resist ... urge ... to Drive all over AL looking for rust free W116 On 9/28/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
In a message dated 9/28/2005 8:21:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Also, what mileage can I expect on the road? Tom, Nitske's page on the 450SEL cover 72-80 model years so his fuel consumption figure of 16 MPG is pretty general. Given that the 72-78 had a 3.07 rear gear, the 79 had 3.06(?), and the 80 had 2.65:1. Your 77 would have a performance gear and I would suspect 16 would be hard to average pulling around 4100 pounds. The fuel is specified as US: no lead fuel with no mention of octane, which implies low octane is OK. The 6.9 page, for example, calls for super in the fuel category. US horsepower for the 77 is quoted at an anemic 180 (@4750 rpm) with a compression ration of 8.0:1, which should be very happy on the cheapest blends. Fuel tank capacity was 25.4 gallons. Some other specs: 0-60 in 10.8 seconds with a top speed of 127 MPH. the 77 sold new for $24,506 (east cost POE). Of the 59,575 sold in the USA, 10,042 were labeled 77s. If you buy the car, I would be glad to scan the two pages for your files. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] W201 engine swapping
Mitch Haley wrote: Let's say I have a 190D 2.5/auto and a 190E2.3-16, and I want to put the 5 cylinder diesel in the 190E body with the 190E 5 sp tranny. Does anything have to be fabricated or purchased, or is the operation going to be a matter of swapping existing parts from donor to recipient? Will the tranny be in the same place when bolted to the 2.5 using 2.5 motor mounts as it was with the 2.3 gasser, or am I going to have shift linkage/driveshaft issues? You probably won't be able to fit a 602 engine into the 201.034 chassis (it MIGHT fit into a 190E 2.6 - MAYBE) without MAJOR alterations to the chassis. The 190D 2.5 chassis were stretched up front - different radiators and so forth - from the earlier cars to fit in the longer engine. I'm NOT saying it can't be done, but look VERY carefully and see how things fit into one versus the other. Pay particular attention to the radiator, AC condenser, fans, fan shroud and AC stuff. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] 35 mpg in some 124's!
Gabriel S. wrote: as far as the weight, you are correct, my 124 weights 4390lbs. As far as gas mileage, I don't think i've gotten 35mpg. Then your 124 weights about 1000 lbs more than the 124 diesels that Mercedes manufactured. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] 35 mpg in some 124's!
On 9/28/05 11:33 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then your 124 weights about 1000 lbs more than the 124 diesels that Mercedes manufactured. Maybe he has the updated Auric Goldfinger model! GG
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
In a message dated 9/28/2005 8:21:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Also, what mileage can I expect on the road? I had a 1979 450SEL from 1991 through 1998. It was a great car and used regular unleaded fuel. Fuel mileage was the main reason I sold the car. My mpg were usually south of 16mpg. The best I'd ever seen was on the highway driving was 17 or 18 mpg. A huge car and very stout of performance. My 116 was my first Mercedes, and I've owned nothing but Mercedes since then. GG
Re: [MBZ] IP rebuilding (was: no subject)
Say what? I'm with Kleb, as they age, the IP's are almost always low on fuel delivery, especially off idle - necessitating the ALDA adjustment (richer). Almost all older, unmolested MB turbo diesels are dogs (low fuel delivery) that wake up dramatically with a little tweaking. I never hear of old diesels being too darn fast and blowing black smoke while frying the tyres, Finnish-style... ;-) -dm -- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:13:06 -0400 From: Mathieu J. Cama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) That is the exact opposite of my experiences and those of my IP rebuilder. Mathieu Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I thought as they worn they started running lean which is why the ALDA needs to be adjusted?
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:26:34PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some other specs: 0-60 in 10.8 seconds with a top speed of 127 MPH. Sounds like Casey's 87 300TD :) K
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:20:34AM -0500, Tom Hargrave wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Rust free 116? Those had rust problems in California... K
[MBZ] Exhaust system company link
Someone had posted about a company that had some good exhaust systems available. They had stainless systems, with a lifetime guarantee. My system crashed, and I lost the link. Could someone post that again please?
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system company link
I've had a Timevalve Stainless system on my 116/300SD for over 15 years and they paid for a coupla' minor fixes.. Here's the website: http://www.timevalve.com/ Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ PS .. Would appreciate a signature/name on posted emails.. That way I know who I'm talking to... Thx. On Sep 28, 2005, at 10:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone had posted about a company that had some good exhaust systems available. They had stainless systems, with a lifetime guarantee. My system crashed, and I lost the link. Could someone post that again please? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
Most of those older Benz's do not require any type of high octane fuel. Higher octane gas which is mostly required in LEV's or Low Emission Vehicles. Higher octane say 91 or higher does not burn faster than say 87 or 89 it burns slower which results in a cleaner burn. Almost all of the pre 90's Benz's run fine on low octane and don't require anything more than 89 or less Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will run on regular 87 or whatever just fine. Tom Hargrave wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Also, what mileage can I expect on the road? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Injection Pump Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what is an ip? On 9/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought as they worn they started running lean which is why the ALDA needs to be adjusted? Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Andrew, Have your injectors tested. If they check out OK, then check IP timing/chain stretch. Should this check out, it sounds like your IP is running rich. With your mileage, the IP is about due for a rebuilding. As they wear, it is not uncommon for the IP to run rich. If your compression is low, you will also use more fuel. You may want to also make sure you don't have a wheel with a brake dragging. Mathieu -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Skip the 420 and 560, if I was going that far for my money I'd go all the way to a S500. Much nicer than a 560, more power and better fuel economy Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ever drove a 560, you would see what the difference is. You would then want one to play with on the weekends. Speaking of which, I really need to get out and un-mothball mine. OK Don wrote: OK then, the long 126 chassis is great. The 560 has even more power, but I would look at condition before quibbling over engine size. I really like the 300SDL. Same chassis, wonderful Diesel engine. On 9/27/05, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Don, I don't care about gas costs. I've driven fuel-sippers long enough that it's time to balance the scales. On 9/27/05, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice long wheel base Benz, low mileage for its age. Only a test drive will tell Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you dont have to burn premium on those things. OK Don wrote: The fuel mileage??? Premium gasoline??? What are the issues on these particular cars? I've only owned diesel MBs. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
This one's out of North Mississippi. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:26 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL Must ... resist ... urge ... to Drive all over AL looking for rust free W116 On 9/28/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
I'll tell you after I trade for it, on Saturday. The car has 155,000 miles on it and the seats are in excellent condition. The body's straight and I can't find a sign of rust anywhere. The paint's faded enough that I believe it to be original. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:33 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL I kill you now and steal rust free 450! Muhahahahaahaaha Err... uhh I mean So ... where's it located? On 9/28/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Also, what mileage can I expect on the road? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] clones?
ah yep it was a joke and here's the part where I say my VW has a bumper sticker that says my other car is a Mercedes but its in the shop Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Im assuming that was a joke. Harry wrote: I see alot of older Honda's around here and its the same thing, rusty but still running. Thats not reliability in my opinion, thats cheap workmanship. A truly dependable car should not only stand the test of time but look good too. Guess thats why we all like our Benz's OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same story from those I've talked to as well. The drive train keeps going, but the body/chassis is falling apart around it. On 9/27/05, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering a couple of people I know who are long term owners of Honda and Toyotas even admitted that they weren't as good as they use to be. They still have decent engines and tranny's but the rest of the car is nothing more than crappy recycled plastic and metal. Buttons and knobs that fall off and even plastic trim that doesn't look like its suppose to be there. Their quality seems to be focused on their upscale Lexus's and Acuras cause both Honda's and Toyotas are going down the crapper David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Well if you can get an S500 or 500SEL for 5K, then accept the fact *you could* spend $10K to $15K to fix everything that is broken, then I assure you it's a very nice ride. A S600 will add another 10K (easy) to that price. This assumes you hand it to your dealer and not want it back for about 4 weeks. Of course there is always a lurking W140 diesel (maybe if very lucky with a rebuilt engine). MPG on mine 500SEL range from 16-18 (usa gallon), 21 was highest with an extended run at 90-100mph north of LA. On 28-Sep-05, at 10:57 AM, Harry wrote: Skip the 420 and 560, if I was going that far for my money I'd go all the way to a S500. Much nicer than a 560, more power and better fuel economy Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ever drove a 560, you would see what the difference is. You would then want one to play with on the weekends. Speaking of which, I really need to get out and un-mothball mine. OK Don wrote: John 1983 300TDt 352k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 144k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 165k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] clones?
Harry wrote: I always saw rusted out cars as a sign of neglect, but considering rust proofing has come along way one would expect these Japanese cars to fair better than 30 year old Benz's. The Japanese have taken lessons from us about rust proofing. In the Midwest, rust isn't a sign of neglect, it's an inevitability of life. Unless you take extreme measures to immediately grind out rust and and repaint as soon as bubbles start to appear, any car with a steel body will eventually rust out due to the road salt used in the winter.
Re: [MBZ] clones?
Ahhh The De Lorean. On 9/28/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry wrote: I always saw rusted out cars as a sign of neglect, but considering rust proofing has come along way one would expect these Japanese cars to fair better than 30 year old Benz's. The Japanese have taken lessons from us about rust proofing. In the Midwest, rust isn't a sign of neglect, it's an inevitability of life. Unless you take extreme measures to immediately grind out rust and and repaint as soon as bubbles start to appear, any car with a steel body will eventually rust out due to the road salt used in the winter. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
[MBZ] Aux Fan Pooped Out
It appears my aux fan has pooped out. The manual says, check the supplementary fan for function, for this purpose pull the two flat plugs from the temperature switches ( 14 or 15) and connect to each other (connecting short). I reckon I should see if it will spin at all by doing this but I have no idea what switch they are speaking of. What historically fails on these? This is the first time ever I have had one fail. Is there a relay for this and, if there is, where is it? Donkey Shirts Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Assuming you had to spend that much to fix everything that is broken would be a good bet you didn't buy it in the first place. If there is a lot that needs fixing its pretty much a sign that the previous owner was a idiot and didn't take care of it. John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if you can get an S500 or 500SEL for 5K, then accept the fact *you could* spend $10K to $15K to fix everything that is broken, then I assure you it's a very nice ride. A S600 will add another 10K (easy) to that price. This assumes you hand it to your dealer and not want it back for about 4 weeks. Of course there is always a lurking W140 diesel (maybe if very lucky with a rebuilt engine). MPG on mine 500SEL range from 16-18 (usa gallon), 21 was highest with an extended run at 90-100mph north of LA. On 28-Sep-05, at 10:57 AM, Harry wrote: Skip the 420 and 560, if I was going that far for my money I'd go all the way to a S500. Much nicer than a 560, more power and better fuel economy Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you ever drove a 560, you would see what the difference is. You would then want one to play with on the weekends. Speaking of which, I really need to get out and un-mothball mine. OK Don wrote: John 1983 300TDt 352k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 144k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 165k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system company link
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone had posted about a company that had some good exhaust systems available. They had stainless systems, with a lifetime guarantee. My system crashed, and I lost the link. Could someone post that again please? Bosal markets an exhaust system that's warranted for as long as you own your car - not stainless, but excellent quality - and they WILL replaced parts that fail (or at least have for me). They cost considerably less than Timevalve. On a diesel the average exhaust life (excluding collision damage) is going to be may 10+ years even in Pittsburgh (where cars often rust away in 5-8 years). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Harry observed: the previous owner was a idiot I think we all would agree that is all too often the case. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ
[MBZ] O/T Road Rules
From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road manners (was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!)
To: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said in part:
9. In instances where traffic slows to 10mph, all shoulders shall
become lanes.
_snip___
Sounds like an idea from New York/New Jersey. If a 2-lane road has
one lane blocked, it becomes a 1-lane road. How does feeding 3 or 4
lanes into it speed things up? Is there some magic here?
THE SHOULDERS ARE THE ONLY WAY THE EMERGANCY VEHICLES HAVE TO GET TO
THE SCENE! Plug them up and you guarantee a bad situation will get
worse in a hurry.
Hope it's not me that needs the help.
Than there is the issue of road rage; If I'm waiting patiently in line
{be it grammar school lunch or a traffic jam.} What gives anyone the
right to cut-in being rude to all who are doing the right thing?
There are several State Troopers in this state {Connecticut} that will
divert such cars to the side of the road, wait until the road hazard
is clear and than go over and explain the laws to the folks that are
in a bigger hurry than I am.
I always give them a thumbs-up sign as I go past.
Pardon the rant here. Stupid driving bothers me. Don't get me
started on idiots that drive with 4-ways on in a situation they
believe is dangerous.
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
Re: [MBZ] clones?
yep, good ol John Z had a vision with that idea and proof the French can't build engines Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh The De Lorean. On 9/28/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry wrote: I always saw rusted out cars as a sign of neglect, but considering rust proofing has come along way one would expect these Japanese cars to fair better than 30 year old Benz's. The Japanese have taken lessons from us about rust proofing. In the Midwest, rust isn't a sign of neglect, it's an inevitability of life. Unless you take extreme measures to immediately grind out rust and and repaint as soon as bubbles start to appear, any car with a steel body will eventually rust out due to the road salt used in the winter. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
[MBZ] Stents are for kids..............
From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil / additive advice
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
___SNIP
From what I understand, stents have defined, finite lives, and if you get
one in your late forties or fifties, the likelihood of needing a replacement
stent is not all that low.
I'm dealing with amateurs here. I have 8 stints installed at last
count. August of 2003 I had one installed, plugged it in TWO WEEKS!
You don't want to get me going on my open-heart surgeryS.
M/B Content:
My Cardio Doc drives a W-126 gasser that looks identical to mine. I
keep berating him, I think my Doctor should drive a better car than I
do.
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
and proof that some have more money than brains Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry observed: the previous owner was a idiot I think we all would agree that is all too often the case. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata __ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp
Re: [MBZ] W201 engine swapping
Mitch Haley wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: You probably won't be able to fit a 602 engine into the 201.034 chassis (it MIGHT fit into a 190E 2.6 - MAYBE) without MAJOR alterations to the chassis. The 190D 2.5 chassis were stretched up front - different radiators and so forth - Are the hoods, grills, fenders, etc the same? You've got a four banger and a turbo to look at side by side, right? My problem is neither of the proposed project cars are available to me for comparison. The fenders, hood, grill are all the same, but the rear of the radiator in the 2.5 diesels are maybe 2 closer to the front of the car (allowing a longer engine to be inserted) and that changes the body work that connects the left and the right fenders and supports the radiator. Not something that can easily be changed! Just measured my '85 190D and the '87 2.5t and the engine compartment of the 2.5t is 2 longer. This was done by moving the radiator forward (it's thinner too) and redesigning all the metal work between the fenders so the engine compartment extends 2 further forward. This would NOT be easy to replicate. I have NOT examined the 201.034 to see if a diesel could fit. You could try calling Rick Ellinger at http://rc-imports.com/ He knows the 201.034 chassis VERY intimately!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Well that assumes that you can find an owner idiot that will sell you a fixed perfect w140 for the same price as a broken w140. Since most of that money is going to fix faulty engineering it's hard for a smart owner to prevent it from becoming toast even if you do all the preventative maintenance. Blower regulators that melt, vacuum/ pressure pumps (two) which kick the bucket, an A/C system which requires you to replace the evaporator, and window regulators that break because the windows are heavy, let alone engine wiring harnesses that decompose because of the heat and the desire for easy recycling, helpfully frying your MAF. On 28-Sep-05, at 11:47 AM, Harry wrote: Assuming you had to spend that much to fix everything that is broken would be a good bet you didn't buy it in the first place. If there is a lot that needs fixing its pretty much a sign that the previous owner was a idiot and didn't take care of it. John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 248k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
[MBZ] Is all glass....glass?
Prior to repainting my 350SDL, I was also considering replacing the windshieldnot broken or cracked (darn). I've got some choices...the dealer for OEM glass or aftermarket. Is there a big difference? Triumph auto glass (a national chain) quoted $250 for their standard glass...US made by Pilkington (sp?). Have not priced the dealer yet.. Anyone have any experiences with quality with aftermarket vrs. OEM windshields? Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845)894-4296 (tie 533); fax: 892-6235 (tie 532); 2070 Rt. 52; Hopewell Junction, N.Y. 12533
[MBZ] (no subject)
Harry wrote: Skip the 420 and 560, if I was going that far for my money I'd go all the way to a S500. Much nicer than a 560, more power and better fuel economy The S500 is a nice car, but I like the lines of the 420 and 560 much better than the new body. I think the 560 represents what a fantastic Mercedes used to be. What is chassis number for the S500 (the older one 92-?)? Is it the 140? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
[MBZ] Rust in the midwest?
David Brodbeck wrote: In the Midwest, rust isn't a sign of neglect, it's an inevitability of life. Unless you take extreme measures to immediately grind out rust and and repaint as soon as bubbles start to appear, any car with a steel body will eventually rust out due to the road salt used in the winter. David, I am assuming you are talking about the upper Midwest. I live in Wichita, Kansas and lived most of the rest of my life in Springfield, Missouri. I have never had any rust problems on any car I have owned. I agree in Chicago, you cannot keep most cars from rusting. I had an uncle who had a little car dealership. He used to buy 5-6 cars at the auction in Springfield and drive them to Chicago where he could sell them for three times what he paid for them. Dealers in Chicago were always amazed to see a 10 year old Chevy Caprice with no rust on it. (My Uncle liked the Caprice and bought all of them that he could find in the 80's). Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Let's see on ebay there is an s500 for sale for 20K, but no history info, one at 12k, some at 24k. one for 5K with a salvage history, flooded, but claim it's run the last 12 years. There is one at 3.5k, but the word abused does come to mind. I wonder if the missing steering wheel airbag is a indication of some other incident... Let alone the horrors of the seats... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-MERCEDES- BENZ_W0QQitemZ4578311290QQcategoryZ6336QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem For diesels 2 of them in the 15k range, none claim a rebuilt engine. On 28-Sep-05, at 12:40 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: Well that assumes that you can find an owner idiot that will sell you a fixed perfect w140 for the same price as a broken w140. John 1983 300TDt 358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1992 300TDt 148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Yes w140 On 28-Sep-05, at 12:43 PM, Donald Snook wrote: What is chassis number for the S500 (the older one 92-?)? Is it the 140?
Re: [MBZ] (no subject) WHY???
Why can't you guys put a SUBJECT in .??? Might encourage folks to look at what you have to say!! Just a short rant/request. Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Sep 28, 2005, at 12:43 PM, Donald Snook wrote: Harry wrote: Skip the 420 and 560, if I was going that far for my money I'd go all the way to a S500. Much nicer than a 560, more power and better fuel economy The S500 is a nice car, but I like the lines of the 420 and 560 much better than the new body. I think the 560 represents what a fantastic Mercedes used to be. What is chassis number for the S500 (the older one 92-?)? Is it the 140? Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net why
Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
I wish you well, but... Beware the oogy cracked dash. :(( I never saw a 116 450SE/L that still had an intact dash, especially if it was blue. Also, inasmuch as most of them seem to have been owned by chain smokers, the interiors usually smell of stale tobacco fumes. Yecchhh. On 9/28/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll tell you after I trade for it, on Saturday. The car has 155,000 miles on it and the seats are in excellent condition. The body's straight and I can't find a sign of rust anywhere. The paint's faded enough that I believe it to be original. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Booher Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:33 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL I kill you now and steal rust free 450! Muhahahahaahaaha Err... uhh I mean So ... where's it located? On 9/28/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found a rust free 450SEL and I'm curious if the car will run on mid-grade gas. Also, what mileage can I expect on the road? Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com http://www.kegkits.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust system company link
I second Chuck re: Timevalve. They have a lifetime warranty that they really DO honor. It's so good it's worth SHOUTING about! On 9/28/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone had posted about a company that had some good exhaust systems available. They had stainless systems, with a lifetime guarantee. My system crashed, and I lost the link. Could someone post that again please? Bosal markets an exhaust system that's warranted for as long as you own your car - not stainless, but excellent quality - and they WILL replaced parts that fail (or at least have for me). They cost considerably less than Timevalve. On a diesel the average exhaust life (excluding collision damage) is going to be may 10+ years even in Pittsburgh (where cars often rust away in 5-8 years). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] O/T Road Rules
HAH! There's nothing that makes me madder than idiots who cruise in the
breakdown lane when the beltway traffic has come to a halt.
On 9/28/05, Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road manners (was: Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!)
To: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said in part:
9. In instances where traffic slows to 10mph, all shoulders shall
become lanes.
_snip___
Sounds like an idea from New York/New Jersey. If a 2-lane road has
one lane blocked, it becomes a 1-lane road. How does feeding 3 or 4
lanes into it speed things up? Is there some magic here?
THE SHOULDERS ARE THE ONLY WAY THE EMERGANCY VEHICLES HAVE TO GET TO
THE SCENE! Plug them up and you guarantee a bad situation will get
worse in a hurry.
Hope it's not me that needs the help.
Than there is the issue of road rage; If I'm waiting patiently in line
{be it grammar school lunch or a traffic jam.} What gives anyone the
right to cut-in being rude to all who are doing the right thing?
There are several State Troopers in this state {Connecticut} that will
divert such cars to the side of the road, wait until the road hazard
is clear and than go over and explain the laws to the folks that are
in a bigger hurry than I am.
I always give them a thumbs-up sign as I go past.
Pardon the rant here. Stupid driving bothers me. Don't get me
started on idiots that drive with 4-ways on in a situation they
believe is dangerous.
--
Peter T. Arnold
Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.
1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 231 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%
1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 189 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes
2002 PT Cruizer, 74 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale
1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}
None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)
___
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[MBZ] Pedants
,if you want to get pedantic about it. ;). Yes, lets. RLE
