[MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Well you are going to have to remove the seat completely. First move seat all the way back and remove front 2 bolts, then move all the way forward for the back 2. Then you can get to the motors etc and see if one of the wires is damaged or something. Harry Watkins wrote: I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Admin, transition complete
OK, everything has been updated and everyone resubscribed. Everyone is now set to non-digest by default. If you need digest version, simply log into the list page with the password that was emailed to you with your new welcome message. If you are still confused let me know. It is very easy to change your settings so you shouldnt have any problems. Kaleb -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I usually just get it sort of stuck in the car door a little just so the cord will reach to move it back and forth. OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. As for the pins, the older style with no memory is different than the later memory seats. That is why the pins are different. Loren Faeth wrote: Yes, but if you read, Harry already HAD his seat out. those instructions get the seat out but then you are stuck! I just had my SDL seat out for the second time and it is as bad as or worse than the heater fans they stick on a stand and then build the car around. The problem is, once you get the seat out of the car, you can't unbolt the seat from the slides or the slides from the power mechanism. I thought I was real smart and had the bottom off of a 126 SE on hand before I took the seat out. WRONG the SE seat had large pins and the SDL seat had small pins. NO swapping parts, even if you COULD get all the bolts out. You cant get the seat into a workable position with the plugs in for power, and you can't move the cussed slides without power to the right pins. What we need is a test/repair bench for sears with plugs and switches from a junker to move the seat around once it is out of the car. The only solution I have had is to pull the seat, take out some bolts, put it back in move it fore/aft and take the seat out and remove some more bolts until you get them all. This means you have to put in and take out the cussed seat 2- 3 times for disassembly and the same for assembly. I did manage to get my slides straightened and working again, but it is a ROYAL pain, and with heated or the vacuum operated ortho cushions, it gets even worse. At 09:12 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote: Well you are going to have to remove the seat completely. First move seat all the way back and remove front 2 bolts, then move all the way forward for the back 2. Then you can get to the motors etc and see if one of the wires is damaged or something. Harry Watkins wrote: I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
Yea, and the list was only out of commission for about 10 minutes Loren Faeth wrote: Congrats! You have pulled off a maintenancesimilar to those which always seemed to cause a major meltdown for ol Richarde At 09:17 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote: OK, everything has been updated and everyone resubscribed. Everyone is now set to non-digest by default. If you need digest version, simply log into the list page with the password that was emailed to you with your new welcome message. If you are still confused let me know. It is very easy to change your settings so you shouldnt have any problems. Kaleb -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
Seems like a VERY smooth transition to me. Congratulations Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] Mooseday Aftermath
http://tinyurl.com/9s5g3 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 26 14:18:55 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com ([66.249.82.204]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EqtBe-0005sX-JI for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:18:55 + Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id s11so832908wxc for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 06:18:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WSVdiq7MS05kwU6NUi25EO4pQXBZpTkCb+A911NZU66lXNeLxp0epx0QRkf3FMT0H6IHkWr74Dr4XPn8lchL7kVg2vmph37w/iemp8Zj4TxKyr4aortouCge0mMnAleyFXNV7qgYrX3todCV0xxeb/cEqLI3Hv6rQugd+L4lP+g= Received: by 10.70.118.1 with SMTP id q1mr5902878wxc; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 06:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.65.10 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 06:18:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:18:52 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mooseday Aftermath X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:18:55 - And I thought some criminal elements stole my lights. On 12/26/05, L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/9s5g3 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Frappr Map
I suggest adding Wolfgang's page of Mercedes oil recomendations: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html It's not absolutely complete, but he updates it pretty regularly as things change. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] seat heater repair
My '93 has one good seat heater (the passenger side of course) and one bad. Symptoms are that the lights on the switch will flash very briefly when the switch is pressed, and then remain off. Switch and relays have been checked and are considered good (by my mechanic). So it sounds like the problem is probably in the seat itself. First, is this a reasonable conclusion? Second, what could be wrong (bad heating element in the seat?), and what's the process of repairing? Thanks! Lee '93 300D 2.5 180K
Re: [MBZ] seat heater repair
I would find the electrical connection to the seat and measure the resistance. This will give a clue if the heating element is bad. The enxt thing could be a bad wire/connection. Again, measure the resistance of the wire loop. On 12/26/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My '93 has one good seat heater (the passenger side of course) and one bad. Symptoms are that the lights on the switch will flash very briefly when the switch is pressed, and then remain off. Switch and relays have been checked and are considered good (by my mechanic). So it sounds like the problem is probably in the seat itself. First, is this a reasonable conclusion? Second, what could be wrong (bad heating element in the seat?), and what's the process of repairing? Thanks! Lee '93 300D 2.5 180K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob?
Never been to Phoenix...no grass in those pictures...do you literally live IN the desert? Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that...it's like 5 minutes from my house.I may go give it a gander. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1983-Mercedes-240-d-4-door-diesel-arizona-car-bio_W0QQitemZ4599798190QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 26 15:09:56 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eqtz2-0001jM-1O for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:09:56 + Received: from rmailcenter76.comcast.net ([204.127.197.158]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id 2005122615095201300c4hvde; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:09:52 + Received: from [67.185.30.215] by rmailcenter76.comcast.net; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:09:51 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:09:51 + Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: ATT Message Center Version 1 (Aug 4 2005) X-Authenticated-Sender: ampheWpAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:09:56 - i'm having the same seat problem in my SDL (blowing fuses), and i'll start with my mistake... while coming back from mexico last year, i ran out of fuses because they were good only for about enough time to move it a bit...so i used the old standby-replacement 12 ga wire instead of a fuse...seat worked fine for a bit... then the smell of a printed circuit board in the seat computer reminded me of my acumin in the auto electronics department!...fried that rascal... didja know that a used replacement has less computing power than a disposable digital camera?...and only costs about $150?? well, i'm back to using a fresh fuse when i wish to change seat positions... i'll test the motors next, and i'll bet the recline motor is bad stay tuned john -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you read, Harry already HAD his seat out. those instructions get the seat out but then you are stuck! I just had my SDL seat out for the second time and it is as bad as or worse than the heater fans they stick on a stand and then build the car around. The problem is, once you get the seat out of the car, you can't unbolt the seat from the slides or the slides from the power mechanism. I thought I was real smart and had the bottom off of a 126 SE on hand before I took the seat out. WRONG the SE seat had large pins and the SDL seat had small pins. NO swapping parts, even if you COULD get all the bolts out. You cant get the seat into a workable position with the plugs in for power, and you can't move the
Re: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob?
Ja. This baby has been in the dessert heat all its life. Look at the wrinkle finish on the door panels and window frame coverings. On 12/26/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never been to Phoenix...no grass in those pictures...do you literally live IN the desert? Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that...it's like 5 minutes from my house.I may go give it a gander. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1983-Mercedes-240-d-4-door-diesel-arizona-car-bio_W0QQitemZ4599798190QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
I tried to go to the site below to change back to the digest version but am unable to find the correct procedure there to do this. Is it possible to do it manually or some other way? My email just gets too overloaded unless I use the digest version. Also, from your list of MBz you own, can you give me some evidences to differentiate a '75 vs a '76 240D. I have one titled as a '76, although for some reasons, I believe it to be a '75. Thanks. Mick On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:17:13 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, everything has been updated and everyone resubscribed. Everyone is now set to non-digest by default. If you need digest version, simply log into the list page with the password that was emailed to you with your new welcome message. If you are still confused let me know. It is very easy to change your settings so you shouldnt have any problems. Kaleb -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Frappr Map
Thanks. Will save these for when I start on that section of the site. Hans Neureiter wrote: Kaleb, would it not be nice to have a link to the map on the Striplin.netsite. I bet Chuck will approve after a bit of arm twisting. Below are some links to helpful sites I saved. You may want to put some on your Links page. Model specs: http://home.hiwaay.net/%7Egbf/mbmodels.html Transmission ervices: http://www.jie.com/CD/CD_Page.htm Transmission tuning: http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic20242.html How to drive an automatic (really): http://www.standardshift.com/videos.html Maintenance and Upkeep: http://www.dieselbenz.info/ Rusty's Parts and forum: http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/index.php? Members locations: http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch Service Library (Skinnerbox): http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] seat heater repair
So it sounds like the problem is probably in the seat itself. First, is this a reasonable conclusion? Yes, given the harsh environment the seat heater lives in. Second, what could be wrong (bad heating element in the seat?), and what's the process of repairing? Remove seat, remove cover(s), replace heating pad(s), reassemble. It's very much worth unplugging the heating elements (there are two: back and butt) under the seat and measuring their resistance first. The two-stage heater puts them in series on low, and in parallel on high. Does the system not work on both settings? I'm not sure how intelligent the relay is about reacting to electrical problems in the heating elements, but it could be that one fault will take both elements out of service. If they both measure good you may have a bad relay. Those are clipped to the floorboards under the seats in a 126, I'm not sure about anything else. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
We has some corrupt files that would sometimes cause the list to stop sending out email till it was restarted. Had to delete everything and start over to see if that fixed it. The archive from up to that point are offline right now but should be back up in about 10 days or so. Marshall Booth wrote: Seems like a VERY smooth transition to me. Congratulations Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] seat heater repair
Check your charging system, that is what they do when the charging system is not charging like its supposed to. They do that to tell you something is wrong. My 560 was doing that then a few days later I figured out the alternator was not charging. Lee Levitt wrote: My '93 has one good seat heater (the passenger side of course) and one bad. Symptoms are that the lights on the switch will flash very briefly when the switch is pressed, and then remain off. Switch and relays have been checked and are considered good (by my mechanic). So it sounds like the problem is probably in the seat itself. First, is this a reasonable conclusion? Second, what could be wrong (bad heating element in the seat?), and what's the process of repairing? Thanks! Lee '93 300D 2.5 180K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. What you said _is_ my procedure for such things! Persevere. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Frappr Map
goo idea Marshall Booth wrote: I suggest adding Wolfgang's page of Mercedes oil recomendations: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html It's not absolutely complete, but he updates it pretty regularly as things change. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Well too bad you didnt see this then: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8024585038rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 My SDL was blowing fuses everytime you tried to move the backrest. Last weekend after much complaining from the wife about the broken seat springs I pulled the seat out to replace the spring box. Discovered the wires to the backrest motor completely severed. Think they got caught on a broken spring. Spliced them back together and now it works fine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm having the same seat problem in my SDL (blowing fuses), and i'll start with my mistake... while coming back from mexico last year, i ran out of fuses because they were good only for about enough time to move it a bit...so i used the old standby-replacement 12 ga wire instead of a fuse...seat worked fine for a bit... then the smell of a printed circuit board in the seat computer reminded me of my acumin in the auto electronics department!...fried that rascal... didja know that a used replacement has less computing power than a disposable digital camera?...and only costs about $150?? well, i'm back to using a fresh fuse when i wish to change seat positions... i'll test the motors next, and i'll bet the recline motor is bad stay tuned john -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but if you read, Harry already HAD his seat out. those instructions get the seat out but then you are stuck! I just had my SDL seat out for the second time and it is as bad as or worse than the heater fans they stick on a stand and then build the car around. The problem is, once you get the seat out of the car, you can't unbolt the seat from the slides or the slides from the power mechanism. I thought I was real smart and had the bottom off of a 126 SE on hand before I took the seat out. WRONG the SE seat had large pins and the SDL seat had small pins. NO swapping parts, even if you COULD get all the bolts out. You cant get the seat into a workable position with the plugs in for power, and you can't move the cussed slides without power to the right pins. What we need is a test/repair bench for sears with plugs and switches from a junker to move the seat around once it is out of the car. The only solution I have had is to pull the seat, take out some bolts, put it back in move it fore/aft and take the seat out and remove some more bolts until you get them all. This means you have to put in and take out the cussed seat 2- 3 times for disassembly and the same for assembly. I did manage to get my slides straightened and working again, but it is a ROYAL pain, and with heated or the vacuum operated ortho cushions, it gets even worse. At 09:12 PM 12/25/2005, you wrote: Well you are going to have to remove the seat completely. First move seat all the way back and remove front 2 bolts, then move all the way forward for the back 2. Then you can get to the motors etc and see if one of the wires is damaged or something. Harry Watkins wrote: I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C.
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
Click on the link at the bottom of each message or with the new subscription message you got. Log in with the password that was supplied in that message. If you use the link at the bottom of this message the last box at the bottom asks for your email address. Enter email, then click the unsubscribe or edit options button. Enter password when prompted. Scroll down a little to the section titled Your Mercedes Subscription Options and the send selection says set digest mode, on or off. Change that or any other settings then click submit my changed button at the botton. Its that simple. As far as your 240D. If the door plate says it was manufactured I believe october or later, its the next year model. Robert M Doran wrote: I tried to go to the site below to change back to the digest version but am unable to find the correct procedure there to do this. Is it possible to do it manually or some other way? My email just gets too overloaded unless I use the digest version. Also, from your list of MBz you own, can you give me some evidences to differentiate a '75 vs a '76 240D. I have one titled as a '76, although for some reasons, I believe it to be a '75. Thanks. Mick On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:17:13 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, everything has been updated and everyone resubscribed. Everyone is now set to non-digest by default. If you need digest version, simply log into the list page with the password that was emailed to you with your new welcome message. If you are still confused let me know. It is very easy to change your settings so you shouldnt have any problems. Kaleb -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Car 'year'
Also, from your list of MBz you own, can you give me some evidences to differentiate a '75 vs a '76 240D. I have one titled as a '76, although for some reasons, I believe it to be a '75. Thanks. Frankenheap is in the same boat. The State thinks it is a '71, but I have good reason to believe that '72 is more appropriate, given that I found lots of '72 date codes on electrical items in it. I don't think that I'd want to try to convince the State that they had the wrong number! What's in it for them to change, anyway? DBAG is not like some other manufacturers that have discontinuities in their design and production for each year, saving up most engineering changes for the next model. DBAG just made continuous improvements as they thought of them, phasing them in at any old time. The model year designation (a US invention) is just another thing they stamp on arbitrarily to suit their production method. After all, even for a Chevy the 'year' is just a 'designed for sale as the year of' number, and is something like six months out of phase with the calendar now. DBAG's VIN will tell you everything you need to order parts appropriate for the car and probably the date of final assembly too, if you care about that. How that relates to the US's approximately August-to-August 'car year' is up to you. Your State obviously took an assembled in '75 car and called it a '76. My '97 pickup was originally sold in '96, sounds like the same thing. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] seat heater repair
Check your charging system, that is what they do when the charging system is not charging like its supposed to. I thought the lights flashed continuously when battery voltage was low. (I've never seen this, but I thought that's what I read in the TFM about seat and rear window heaters.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans
Re: [MBZ] seat heater repair
the ones on my car flashed then turned off. Jim Cathey wrote: Check your charging system, that is what they do when the charging system is not charging like its supposed to. I thought the lights flashed continuously when battery voltage was low. (I've never seen this, but I thought that's what I read in the TFM about seat and rear window heaters.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
On the opposite side of the motors from where the cable comes out is a port that will accept a square bit. You can use that to turn the motors manually. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you? Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] seat heater repair
Thanks Jim, In the 124 the relays are under the rear seat. With regard to the seat heating elements -- are they separate from the seat covers? How difficult is it to remove the seat cover? Thanks! Lee On Mon Dec 26 07:50:24 PST 2005, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it sounds like the problem is probably in the seat itself. First, is this a reasonable conclusion? Yes, given the harsh environment the seat heater lives in. Second, what could be wrong (bad heating element in the seat?), and what's the process of repairing? Remove seat, remove cover(s), replace heating pad(s), reassemble. It's very much worth unplugging the heating elements (there are two: back and butt) under the seat and measuring their resistance first. The two-stage heater puts them in series on low, and in parallel on high. Does the system not work on both settings? I'm not sure how intelligent the relay is about reacting to electrical problems in the heating elements, but it could be that one fault will take both elements out of service. If they both measure good you may have a bad relay. Those are clipped to the floorboards under the seats in a 126, I'm not sure about anything else. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
That's the reason I use Gmail exclusively for the lists mail load. 2 gigs of storage and free. I manage it by deleting stuff I think I never need and keep the rest stached in Labels, same as folders. I send you an invitation you can use if you like. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/26/05, Robert M Doran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . My email just gets too overloaded unless I use the digest version
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
That makes sense to me, but when I asked about this soon after I had purchased the car several years ago I was told that the dealer who had sold it (and who was no longer in business here at that time) had used the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but I was also told that if the car was indeed a '76, the glow plug switch would have been incorporated into the key ignition switch as it was in later years instead of on a seperate pull-switch, as it is in mine. Also I was told that the oil filter could be accessed from under the hood in '76, while I still need to be under the car to change the filter in mine. The date of manufacture is stamped as 9/75, so I guess it could logically go either way as necessary, and this car must have been built near the time they made those changes. Anybody have some more comments about this I would like to hear them. Mick On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:05:21 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, from your list of MBz you own, can you give me some evidences to differentiate a '75 vs a '76 240D. I have one titled as a '76, although for some reasons, I believe it to be a '75. Thanks. Frankenheap is in the same boat. The State thinks it is a '71, but I have good reason to believe that '72 is more appropriate, given that I found lots of '72 date codes on electrical items in it. I don't think that I'd want to try to convince the State that they had the wrong number! What's in it for them to change, anyway? DBAG is not like some other manufacturers that have discontinuities in their design and production for each year, saving up most engineering changes for the next model. DBAG just made continuous improvements as they thought of them, phasing them in at any old time. The model year designation (a US invention) is just another thing they stamp on arbitrarily to suit their production method. After all, even for a Chevy the 'year' is just a 'designed for sale as the year of' number, and is something like six months out of phase with the calendar now. DBAG's VIN will tell you everything you need to order parts appropriate for the car and probably the date of final assembly too, if you care about that. How that relates to the US's approximately August-to-August 'car year' is up to you. Your State obviously took an assembled in '75 car and called it a '76. My '97 pickup was originally sold in '96, sounds like the same thing. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob?
- Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob? Never been to Phoenix...no grass in those pictures...do you literally live IN the desert? Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that...it's like 5 minutes from my house.I may go give it a gander. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1983-Mercedes-240-d-4-door-diesel-arizona-car-bio_W0QQitemZ4599798190QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
All 115 240D (1976 was the last year) had the pull start glow knob and the top mounted oil filter. In 1977 with the 123 240D they went to the key start. Robert M Doran wrote: That makes sense to me, but when I asked about this soon after I had purchased the car several years ago I was told that the dealer who had sold it (and who was no longer in business here at that time) had used the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but I was also told that if the car was indeed a '76, the glow plug switch would have been incorporated into the key ignition switch as it was in later years instead of on a seperate pull-switch, as it is in mine. Also I was told that the oil filter could be accessed from under the hood in '76, while I still need to be under the car to change the filter in mine. The date of manufacture is stamped as 9/75, so I guess it could logically go either way as necessary, and this car must have been built near the time they made those changes. Anybody have some more comments about this I would like to hear them. Mick -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob?
Yes we do...some of us do have small patches of grass. Most have the desert landscape (rocks/gravel/granite) Lots of cactus (it's still odd, even after 25 years, hanging Christmas lights on a cactus), scrubby trees, rivers with no water, etc. Bob Rentfro ;77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob? Never been to Phoenix...no grass in those pictures...do you literally live IN the desert? Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that...it's like 5 minutes from my house.I may go give it a gander. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin To: Mercedes mailing list Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] a car for AZ bob? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-1983-Mercedes-240-d-4-door-diesel-arizona-car-bio_W0QQitemZ4599798190QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 93 S-Class diesel (new engine?)
Yes. The last revision of the OM603 head, casting #22, has a modified oil passage. The previous castings were mostly open to the head gasket, and sometimes the gasket would blow out into the timing chain cavity and #1 cylinder. The new casting moves the passage internal to the head with a hole at either end. In retrospect, I don't understand why it wasn't designed like that in the first place. A photo of the heads side by side, showing the oil passage difference, is here: http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_head_replacement/heads-front.jpg :) -Dave M. On 12/26/05, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used a dial indicator with a magnetic base to measure how far the top of the pistons protruded from the block. Bent rods don't come up as far. Also measure the roundness of the cylinders at top, middle, and bottom. Didn't Mercedes change the oil passage in front of the #1 cylinder on the 603.97x heads in the latest versions? Thanks -Dave Walton
[MBZ] Strange Lack of What Little Power There Was
Oldest girl-child called me the other day and told me she didn't think she could get all of her stuff in the Beetle to get it home, so I put the roof rack on and drove over to Long Beach. I loaded the car (back seat full, trunk full, TV on front seat and three big suitcases up on the rack) and, after fueling up with $3.509 Chevron fuel (this is where I get fuel all the time for the Bug), we took off for home. The car wasn't overloaded, I'd say. However I had to keep it FLOORED most of the time on the way back to even keep it at 70mph. And going up the big hill going east on I-10 east of Indio...it was 40 mph in second gear sometimes. Fuel useage went to a crazy 12 mpg. So...I had to work Christmas day (made lots of electricty so all y'all could sit around in comfort with your families) and the loss of oomph was still evident. Usually I can set the cruise for 76 and drivew the 40 miles with it not wavering. Yesterday, it seemed it took a lot more accelerator mashage to get to the 75, then it was very hard to maintain it...and the fuel milage is still horrible. And, it also seems like my oil usage made a step change (from 1 qt/1500 miles to 1 qt/900 miles) Is the fix as easy as changing fuel filters? Thanks Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 26 17:48:40 2005 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EqwSe-0006gN-Dq for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:48:40 + Received: from dogear.com ([206.63.94.252]) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id jBQHmq1I005252 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:48:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:48:37 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:48:52 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 93 S-Class diesel (new engine?) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:48:40 - The new casting moves the passage internal to the head with a hole at either end. In retrospect, I don't understand why it wasn't designed like that in the first place. No doubt Rev. A of the passage is easier to make, and was thought to be 'good enough'. In retrospect, it wasn't. Hindsight sure works well, doesn't it? Engineering, even DBAG's at its best, is full of 'good enough'. The true test of quality lies in how often they're right. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Frappr Map
I'd like to encourage our non-US located members and friends to participate in the Frappr! map as well. It's fun to see where everyone is, even though we won't likely be stopping by for help on a trip. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
the system of selling the car titled according to the date of sale rather than otherwise, regardless of how long it had been in his inventory. This seems strange to me that he could have legally done this but In one way this even makes the most sense given the primary purpose of the 'year' so far as the State is concerned: assessing value for the purposes of taxation. It minimizes the age and thus maximizes the taxes. So no, I'm not surprised that it is legal! Follow the money. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
That's what I do also - I find the Gmail easier to read than the digest. All the messages with a common subject line are grouped together in one thread. On 12/26/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the reason I use Gmail exclusively for the lists mail load. 2 gigs of storage and free. I manage it by deleting stuff I think I never need and keep the rest stached in Labels, same as folders. I send you an invitation you can use if you like. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
OK. My '76 300D 617 had the bottom mounted oil filter and a key operated glow/starting system. My '70 220D 615 had the pull start system. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 115 240D (1976 was the last year) had the pull start glow knob and the top mounted oil filter. In 1977 with the 123 240D they went to the key start. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
All of the 617s had key operated glow/start. Th 616s didn't have key start until the 123 models. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
That worked, I now have the screw lined up to come out and got called to lunch (I never miss lunch). To make a tool I hammered the end of a welding rod (1109) square, finished with a file and used a drill motor to move the rail. The square (without measuring) seems to be about the size of a speedometer cable end but I don't have an old one to try. I am going to shape my welding rod into a crank and not use the drill motor. It also turns out that two of the three motors have the square hole exposed, but the fore/aft motor does not so I inserted my tool into the driven gear square to make the move. I plan to drill a hole in the motor frame to cure that problem. Until I reassemble, I don't know if you can crank the motors with the motor frame fastened to the side rails or not, I have them loose right now so I can move it all around. I'll post my findings. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the opposite side of the motors from where the cable comes out is a port that will accept a square bit. You can use that to turn the motors manually. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you?
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I just pull the drive cable out of the motor and chuck it in my drill motor. The lock plates are only at the gearbox side. On 12/26/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
Hi Harry, This guy has published a series of repair booklets for Mercedes. I bought one for the W123 seats but much of the info relates to several models. The books are very complete with photos of each step. http://www.mercedessource.com/ HTH's -- Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D w/286K) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site? I have the drivers seat out of an SDL and have bogged down. My problem was that a new fuse would allow it to operate for a week or so, then blow another fuse. It was during the fore and aft movement. I keep taking more and more screws, nuts and bolts off, trying to get to a point where I can see how things work and be able to inspect for wear or damage. I hope someone has a procedure, or steps to follow. Anyone? Thanks Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Strange Lack of What Little Power There Was
Hi Bob, What year is the Beetle? Along with the fuel filters look for vacuum leaks - or, if it's a gas engined VW, make sure the timing hasn't changed - Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Strange Lack of What Little Power There Was Oldest girl-child called me the other day and told me she didn't think she could get all of her stuff in the Beetle to get it home, so I put the roof rack on and drove over to Long Beach. I loaded the car (back seat full, trunk full, TV on front seat and three big suitcases up on the rack) and, after fueling up with $3.509 Chevron fuel (this is where I get fuel all the time for the Bug), we took off for home. The car wasn't overloaded, I'd say. However I had to keep it FLOORED most of the time on the way back to even keep it at 70mph. And going up the big hill going east on I-10 east of Indio...it was 40 mph in second gear sometimes. Fuel useage went to a crazy 12 mpg. So...I had to work Christmas day (made lots of electricty so all y'all could sit around in comfort with your families) and the loss of oomph was still evident. Usually I can set the cruise for 76 and drivew the 40 miles with it not wavering. Yesterday, it seemed it took a lot more accelerator mashage to get to the 75, then it was very hard to maintain it...and the fuel milage is still horrible. And, it also seems like my oil usage made a step change (from 1 qt/1500 miles to 1 qt/900 miles) Is the fix as easy as changing fuel filters? Thanks Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Frappr Map
lol. looking at the map, Deadhorse is further north than 99% of Norway, Sweden, etc. I think the Pacific currents keep it from getting colder than it would otherwise. I think the same latitude in Russia is MUCH colder. Chris Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never know. Someone might get lost at the arctic circle and wind up in Norway. On 12/26/05, OK Don wrote: I'd like to encourage our non-US located members and friends to participate in the Frappr! map as well. It's fun to see where everyone is, even though we won't likely be stopping by for help on a trip. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 26 20:46:11 2005 Received: from web30010.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.73]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EqzEO-0004aE-R2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:46:09 + Received: (qmail 37879 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Dec 2005 20:46:05 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yna0p2gXm575FFTto2qV/9LWNIvyFHflo4rBlKnfYXVEuhjYjlEWD0Mk0aH5zMpNJYrKLKCptYcKeU1Kj4tKhGcHLl+bWa5kovynSmsvNbYPqLQt/TO46dOs4TblaQm931KhBulsAxUIdVkjfWqkiiUjXOCuCuP5kzbraytiwXY= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30010.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:46:05 PST Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:46:05 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] OT: online driving directions site that does US Mexico? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:46:12 - mapquest and randmcnally do not do mexico...HELP! Thanks, Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 26 20:54:02 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-21-183.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.21.183] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1EqzM2-0005Ek-C5 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:54:02 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:54:02 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence:
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
OK, next car I part out will do. OK Don wrote: Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Car 'year'
the 300D did have the key start, 75 and 76 OK Don wrote: OK. My '76 300D 617 had the bottom mounted oil filter and a key operated glow/starting system. My '70 220D 615 had the pull start system. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All 115 240D (1976 was the last year) had the pull start glow knob and the top mounted oil filter. In 1977 with the 123 240D they went to the key start. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
yea, should be the same as the speedo drive I think. Harry Watkins wrote: That worked, I now have the screw lined up to come out and got called to lunch (I never miss lunch). To make a tool I hammered the end of a welding rod (1109) square, finished with a file and used a drill motor to move the rail. The square (without measuring) seems to be about the size of a speedometer cable end but I don't have an old one to try. I am going to shape my welding rod into a crank and not use the drill motor. It also turns out that two of the three motors have the square hole exposed, but the fore/aft motor does not so I inserted my tool into the driven gear square to make the move. I plan to drill a hole in the motor frame to cure that problem. Until I reassemble, I don't know if you can crank the motors with the motor frame fastened to the side rails or not, I have them loose right now so I can move it all around. I'll post my findings. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the opposite side of the motors from where the cable comes out is a port that will accept a square bit. You can use that to turn the motors manually. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb wrote: OR, you can just stick the proper drill bit in the special port on the motor just for the purpose of manually moving it back at forth. Tell me more, in my case right now, this would solve my problem. I need to be able to move the driven gear rail about two inches in order to get a center screw out. However, after that its still a guess. You really don't mean a drill bit, do you? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
I'm guessing we need a set each for the memory and non-memory seats - is that all? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, next car I part out will do. OK Don wrote: Kaleb - we need a couple of seat end and chassis wiring harness end connectors with some wire still attached to make a few extension cord sets for working on these seats. We can mail them around as needed. If you'll pull the connectors/wires, I'll solder them up into extension cords. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project
Great! Rather nice weather we're having here -- 73F (23C) and sunny. Unusual for late December in OK land. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got the exhaust hung back up today, installed the fan and filled the cooling system. Fired it up and after a few minutes the smoke went away and it starting running nice. Just need to clear out the junk I guess. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project
Woohoo! That's gonna be one quick car although it won't be quite as quick as a hotrodded 603 or 606 diesel. Is this one going to be the weekend machine after driving diesels all week? Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon no MB diesel as of yet
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
OK, after the upgrade, has anyone else on digest noticed a change in the digest format? The posts are no longer numbered. See below for an example. I don't miss the lack of 'message ID' or 'content type', but I'd sure like to get the 'message number' back! I only pick out topics from the digest index I want to read, and this allows me to quickly locate the post within the digest. Yeah, yeah, I know all you Gmail users love the threaded feature, but I don't like it (and I hate how Gmail handles labels and won't save things in Sent Items if you delete the thread. Grumble.) =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) New 'updated' digest format: * -- Forwarded message -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:13:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete That's what I do also - I find the Gmail easier to read than the digest. All the messages with a common subject line are grouped together in one thread. * Previous digest format: * -- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:01:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Merry Christmas Happy New Year To: 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED],Ferrari List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Best wishes to all my cyber-friends. I depend on all ya'll to keep me exposed to the world - and you never let me down! *
Re: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project
You going to change the nameplate on the back? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got the exhaust hung back up today, installed the fan and filled the cooling system. Fired it up and after a few minutes the smoke went away and it starting running nice. Just need to clear out the junk I guess. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Strange Lack of What Little Power There Was
Larry wondered: What year is the Beetle? The Beetle is a 2001 TDI...it is running well. Got 46 mpg on the way back. My troubles are with my MB...I get to go to work tonight. I'll see how it does. I will change fuel filters tomorrow. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 146K Litchfield Park, AZ
[MBZ] 350sdl tandem pump +a/c clutch
For those of you who wish to add to your collection of photographs, I have two illustrating the air compressor with clutch removed and the new clutch with parts. Just make an additional note, there are two spacer washers that go into the very back of the clutch piece. They are very easy to overlook and easier to loose. Go to www.scaffolding.com/mb Regarding the tandem pump. The very front has treads on it for what appears to shaft removal. Does anyone know what size and kind they are? Constantine
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300DT
Yes - it's a 124 chassis car. The chassis number is WDB1241331A285947. The engine should be 60396012001977 and the tranny 72231702817510. The color code is 355, and the interior is 272. The order number is 0670452241 (I don't know what if anything you can do with this). This is the only year of the 124 chassis with the 3.0 liter six diesel engine - prized for the Diesel performance. It's the engine that had the cracking head problem, but I believe marshal said that the number of heads cracking now is decreasing significantly. I far prefer driving the 124 chassis to the 123, and it's reputed to be less likely to rust than most other models. I opted to look for the 90-93 2.5 turbo model 124 instead of going for the max performance of the 1987 3.0 version due to the reputed greater fuel economy and I like to cool air intake slits in the right front fender. On 12/26/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WDBEB33D9HA285947 Above is the Vin. Can anyone tell me about these cars? Got to start planning for when there will be much, much fewer 123 chassis diesel in the next 10 to 15 years. Need chassis number (is it 124??) Engine style is it a 6 cyl? strengths and weakness. Production years Cars look very nice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300DT-4-door-TURBO-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ4599012330QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300DT
Truly awful cars, steer clear...only fools buy them. On 12/26/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WDBEB33D9HA285947 Above is the Vin. Can anyone tell me about these cars? Got to start planning for when there will be much, much fewer 123 chassis diesel in the next 10 to 15 years. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] An automotive first (for me)
Jim Cathey wrote: I had the hinge pin in my Falcon's pedal rust up, then the pedal broke off the floor. (More rust.) It's still riding around in the trunk, we just step on the rod. Have for years, not that the car gets driven much. Put a little roller on the end of the rod, like the early Bugs. ;)
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
Im not sure why it does or does not do that. I do know before some of the lists numbered them and some didnt. Im not sure if its anything I can control but I will do some digging. Dave M. wrote: OK, after the upgrade, has anyone else on digest noticed a change in the digest format? The posts are no longer numbered. See below for an example. I don't miss the lack of 'message ID' or 'content type', but I'd sure like to get the 'message number' back! I only pick out topics from the digest index I want to read, and this allows me to quickly locate the post within the digest. Yeah, yeah, I know all you Gmail users love the threaded feature, but I don't like it (and I hate how Gmail handles labels and won't save things in Sent Items if you delete the thread. Grumble.) =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) New 'updated' digest format: * -- Forwarded message -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:13:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete That's what I do also - I find the Gmail easier to read than the digest. All the messages with a common subject line are grouped together in one thread. * Previous digest format: * -- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:01:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Merry Christmas Happy New Year To: 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED],Ferrari List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Best wishes to all my cyber-friends. I depend on all ya'll to keep me exposed to the world - and you never let me down! * ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project
yea, it was great. Wish I could have got a car stripped down while I was at it. OK Don wrote: Great! Rather nice weather we're having here -- 73F (23C) and sunny. Unusual for late December in OK land. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got the exhaust hung back up today, installed the fan and filled the cooling system. Fired it up and after a few minutes the smoke went away and it starting running nice. Just need to clear out the junk I guess. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project
It will be for the wife to drive. kevin kraly wrote: Woohoo! That's gonna be one quick car although it won't be quite as quick as a hotrodded 603 or 606 diesel. Is this one going to be the weekend machine after driving diesels all week? Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon no MB diesel as of yet ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] update on the 5.0 euro into the 380SE project
I doubt it. Will be the fastest 380 on the planet. LT Don wrote: You going to change the nameplate on the back? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got the exhaust hung back up today, installed the fan and filled the cooling system. Fired it up and after a few minutes the smoke went away and it starting running nice. Just need to clear out the junk I guess. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] O/T Merry Christmas
Peter Arnold wrote: If you insist on being P/C, Buzz off here! To the rest of us, A Very Merry CHRISTmas to all, Our family is so hapy to live in a land that we can say that! The irony about the war on Christmas rhetoric is that insisting that people who celebrate the holidays celebrate one particular religion's version exclusively is, in itself, a form of political correctness.
[MBZ] I own the Starship Enterprise
Well I took the 380SE with the euro 5.0 out for a spin today. Its like going to warp speed. It has WAY more get up and go than a 560 does. WOW. It was up to 80 before I knew what happened. Next is changing the fluids then daily driver status. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I own the Starship Enterprise
congratulations Kleb - btw, what's wrong with the factory engine in a 380SE? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took the 380SE with the euro 5.0 out for a spin today. Its like going to warp speed. It has WAY more get up and go than a 560 does. WOW. It was up to 80 before I knew what happened. Next is changing the fluids then daily driver status. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete
Actually, the digest I just got had the message numbers like you were talking about. Dave M. wrote: OK, after the upgrade, has anyone else on digest noticed a change in the digest format? The posts are no longer numbered. See below for an example. I don't miss the lack of 'message ID' or 'content type', but I'd sure like to get the 'message number' back! I only pick out topics from the digest index I want to read, and this allows me to quickly locate the post within the digest. Yeah, yeah, I know all you Gmail users love the threaded feature, but I don't like it (and I hate how Gmail handles labels and won't save things in Sent Items if you delete the thread. Grumble.) =) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) New 'updated' digest format: * -- Forwarded message -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:13:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Admin, transition complete That's what I do also - I find the Gmail easier to read than the digest. All the messages with a common subject line are grouped together in one thread. * Previous digest format: * -- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:01:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Merry Christmas Happy New Year To: 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED],Ferrari List [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Best wishes to all my cyber-friends. I depend on all ya'll to keep me exposed to the world - and you never let me down! * ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I own the Starship Enterprise
Well lets see, factory engine, 155hp, euro 5.0 engine, 240hp. Will get about the same mileage as the 380 engine. The later 3.8 is not really that bad, just underpowered. Sunil Hari wrote: congratulations Kleb - btw, what's wrong with the factory engine in a 380SE? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took the 380SE with the euro 5.0 out for a spin today. Its like going to warp speed. It has WAY more get up and go than a 560 does. WOW. It was up to 80 before I knew what happened. Next is changing the fluids then daily driver status. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Title screw-ups (was: Re: Car 'year')
Jim Cathey wrote: Frankenheap is in the same boat. The State thinks it is a '71, but I have good reason to believe that '72 is more appropriate, given that I found lots of '72 date codes on electrical items in it. I don't think that I'd want to try to convince the State that they had the wrong number! What's in it for them to change, anyway? On my '83 300D, the new Washington title says it's gasoline. I gave the license office a diesel title from Michigan, a diesel VIN, and a diesel emissions test report, and they still got it wrong. In Michigan I would have just gone to the Secretary of State office and gotten it fixed for free. In Washington, though, the vehicle licensing offices have apparently been privatized. The local one refuses to change the title without charging me their fee again. rantWhy is it that privatization, which is supposed to save money and improve service, always seems to result in higher fees and worse service?/rant
Re: [MBZ] I own the Starship Enterprise
oh yea, another factor that causes this car to be a rocketship off the line is its geared for the underpowered 3.8 motor(the rear end) but has the 5.0 euro in it. So its even faster off the line than a regular euro 5.0 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well lets see, factory engine, 155hp, euro 5.0 engine, 240hp. Will get about the same mileage as the 380 engine. The later 3.8 is not really that bad, just underpowered. Sunil Hari wrote: congratulations Kleb - btw, what's wrong with the factory engine in a 380SE? On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I took the 380SE with the euro 5.0 out for a spin today. Its like going to warp speed. It has WAY more get up and go than a 560 does. WOW. It was up to 80 before I knew what happened. Next is changing the fluids then daily driver status. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone know of a good seat repair site?
The extension wire will run from the harness where the seat would have plugged in to the harness, with the other end plugging into the seat connector. You should be able to just use the postion switches to move it as needed, and not invoke the memory function. The reason to make different extension wires is have the proper plugs. On 12/26/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure how that would work with the memory type since it runs thru the brain box first. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
