Re: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot
Let us just say that my kitchen [which will not be in use] will be without a
fire extinguisher while I travel the next few days. That visor has been in
the trunk about 4 -5 months, so all of the driving conditions you mentioned
were done, and I have not had it out or looked at it since I put it in.
Sounds like it might be missing a heat shield, though. Will have that
looked at as soon as I arrive in SC.
BillR
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Hi Bill,
I'm not really sure exactly where the hole is you described - but my W123
has an aluminum heat shield over the rear muffler (or is that a resonator?)
with the exhaust pipes having no protection. I've never noticed any heat in
the trunk even after extended high speed drives, but that's in a 240D and
not a 300 engined model.
What kind of driving did you do during the period the plastic piece melted?
Any extended slow, creeping type of driving? Perhaps some sitting in one
spot for a while?
I'm surprised the exhaust retained that much heat so far from the engine.
Good luck -- I doubt it would ignite anything except something really flimsy
like paper or something flammable. - But I'd definately keep an extinguisher
handy.
Sincerely,
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Subject: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot
A couple of months ago I bought a plastic sunroof visor thinking it would
look nice, though I never got around to installing it. It has been flat
and
pushed up against the seat wall of the trunk. I just took it out to pack
for our trip and noticed that it had melted in one spot. The plastic
cover
was completely gone in that area and the thick plastic visor has heated
enough to damage it quite severely in that one spot. I noticed that there
is an opening about a foot in from the left side and 8 - 10 back from
the
seat wall. No rust in the trunk and the rest of the floor seems pretty
good. I will first be happy I didn't stick an oily engine rag back there,
but now I am more than a bit concerned about what would let that much heat
come up through the trunk. Obviously the tail pipe is the source, but is
this usual, even if not to this degree, or something to keep a fire
extinguisher handy for until I can get it checked out? I leave in the
morning to see my mechanic son for a few days prior to his shipping out,
and
am hoping that it will not be dangerous to drive it from Jax to Columbia -
and do an Italian tune-up on one of the long hills between I95 and I77.
Thanks
BillR
1981 300SD 'EM' 274k miles Delvac
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore
Crown Vic V8500 V6. And there is a model 500SEL! On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Sad, as I suspect it, like the older Crown Vic styles, are basically decent quality IF they would just get out of the early 1950s for suspension and drivetrain design.. Actually, the 500 doesn't share anything with the Crown Vic. The chassis and drivetrain are all new (except maybe the engine -- not sure about that.) It can be had with RWD and a conventional automatic, or all wheel drive and a CVT. It looks bland but it actually contains a lot of new technology for Ford. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust 1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit
[MBZ] (D)evolution
Remember that $800 '87 300E that was at the U-Pull in their drive-it-off lot? I about had a heart attack until I saw the E, but I remember thinking it was pretty close to being a parts car. 200+kmi. Well, now it is. I was at the yard today, and that car had moved into the rape and pillage zone. I guess they didn't get their price, nor even any tempting offers! It's been raped some already, the console has been ripped in half. I checked, and the sunroof is a mess. I did buy the Becker 780 (?) out of it. Toying with going for the outside temp display module, and maybe the airbag. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] IP Advance (??)
Peter Frederick wrote: For some reason, they stopped with the turbo cars. Later diesels all have electronic idle control. No the '84-'85 190Ds have a vacuum cold idle boost. VERY reliable. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Nice 95 S350D
Sunil Hari wrote: Let's say you're looking at a S-class with the 3.5L diesel engine - if all the cylinders have good compression, then you can just put new connecting rods in and have a very reliable car, right? NO. There is no way to check the rods (a compression check WON'T cut it unless oil consumption already exceeds the liter/600 miles limit) except to pull the head and measure the rods. If any are bent at all the block must be re-bored and sleeved and the rod required replacement. Figure $7-10k (and a lot of sweat). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Toyota eyesore
On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, the 500 doesn't share anything with the Crown Vic. The chassis and drivetrain are all new (except maybe the engine -- not sure about that.) It can be had with RWD and a conventional automatic, or all wheel drive and a CVT. It looks bland but it actually contains a lot of new technology for Ford. FWD, not RWD. Same platform as the largest Volvo---the S80? (And there haven't been any RWD Volvos for a decade or so now.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] (D)evolution
On 4/14/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember that $800 '87 300E that was at the U-Pull in their drive-it-off lot? I about had a heart attack until I saw the E, but I remember thinking it was pretty close to being a parts car. 200+kmi. Well, now it is. I was at the yard today, and that car had moved into the rape and pillage zone. I guess they didn't get their price, nor even any tempting offers! It's been raped some already, the console has been ripped in half. I checked, and the sunroof is a mess. I did buy the Becker 780 (?) out of it. Toying with going for the outside temp display module, and maybe the airbag. Those outside temp modules fetch a pretty penny on eBay if the LCD is in good shape. In fact I suspect that when they die the only component that's actually bad, most of the time, is the display itself. Jim, if you can take one of those apart and figure out if that's in fact the case and how to hack in a cheap off-the-shelf LCD, you'll be a hero to many. (Obi-Jim Kenobi, you're our only hope.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] This Just Chaps My Ass
Sunil Hari wrote: Hey, he deserves it. ExxonMobil made the largest corporate profit ever, and he played some role in that. He was in the right place at the right time -- oil prices went sky-high and ExxonMobil went along for the ride. Executive compensation is just out of control. If they run the company into the ground, they get tens of millions of dollars. If they do an even halfway competant job they get hundreds of millions.
Re: [MBZ] Car I passed last night
Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that David wrote: A danger in this type of suspension is if the camber angle becomes too extreme the contact patch can get very small as the tire rides up on the edge of its tread. This was part of the reason Corvairs (which also had swing-axle rear suspensions) had such squirrelly handling. Large amounts of positive camber are especially dangerous because the axle can try to tuck under the car under heavy cornering loads. Just for the sake of complete information, it was only the early Corvairs (1960 to 1964) that had a swing axle. From 1965 to 1969 they had dual-joint half-shafts. Yeah...typically for GM, the model was killed off right about the time it was threatening to turn into a decent vehicle. ;)
Re: [MBZ] Trunk hot spot
BillR wrote: Let us just say that my kitchen [which will not be in use] will be without a fire extinguisher while I travel the next few days. That visor has been in the trunk about 4 -5 months, so all of the driving conditions you mentioned were done, and I have not had it out or looked at it since I put it in. Sounds like it might be missing a heat shield, though. You might also check for a hole in the muffler or exhaust pipe...someone mentioned earlier that they tend to rust out on the top side. An exhaust leak pointed at the floor could certainly heat it up.
Re: [MBZ] This Just Chaps My Ass
Profits of $37 billion? He deserves his $400 million, i'm not kidding. On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: Hey, he deserves it. ExxonMobil made the largest corporate profit ever, and he played some role in that. He was in the right place at the right time -- oil prices went sky-high and ExxonMobil went along for the ride. Executive compensation is just out of control. If they run the company into the ground, they get tens of millions of dollars. If they do an even halfway competant job they get hundreds of millions. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] This Just Chaps My Ass
Executive compensation is just out of control. If they run the company into the ground, they get tens of millions of dollars. If they do an even halfway competant job they get hundreds of millions. That was my point. A monkey could've been at the helm of Exxon/Mobil and as long as he did nothing terribly stupid, they would've made record profits. A real CEO that has turned a money losing turd into a gold mine will get my respect and deserves to be appropriately compensated. Lee Iacocca comes to mind. Like him or not, the guy did a good job turning the Chrysler company profitable again. They even bought the Jeep brand on his watch. That was a pretty smart move, although the AMC employees weren't too happy losing their jobs. Perhaps some visionary will come to the rescue of GM. They could use a little insight right now. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
Spent $12 on a sheet of 16 gauge steel. Will cut and pound it into a shape and then weld it to the floor. Not expecting miracles, but will not be a show car On Friday, April 7, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: w115 rusty trunk repair the right way is a nightmare. I'm still working on my trunk repair now for 3-4 months. Only several hours per week and being a perfectionist. I left some posts on my progress several months ago. Well anyway I purchased the trunck floor new for $180 plus $70 for shipping from KK. Drilling out the hundredes of spot welds is no fun. Fuel tank willa lso have to come off. Left side of trunk floor doesn't appear to be available so I am fabricating this. Need a bead roller. Waiting for custom die to be made to duplicate bead exactly. Dimitri 73 220D -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Rust in the trunk
Spent $12 on a sheet of 16 gauge steel. Will cut and pound it into a shape and then weld it to the floor. Not expecting miracles, but will not be a show car It'll hide under the mat just fine, along with its new watery friends! -- Jim
[MBZ] Ed Booher - Wake up!
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/151325045.html -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Another project for Jim C.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/151249442.html -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Another project for Jim C.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/151249442.html Another one? No way! Besides, it's a gasser. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Starter acting nice
In a message dated 4/13/2006 4:40:59 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My starter keeps working without a problem. It was acting up earlier. I bought a reman. one, but didn't have the allen key to replace it. But I haven't had the problem in a couple weeks now. Brian, Starters often work fine until you run the car hard and shut it off. Then the starter hot soaks and gets ornery! Talk to anyone with a small block chevy about hot soak starter problems. I used to carry a spray bottle full of windshield washer fluid. You can spray the starter if it malfunctions and in 15 minutes it will start like nothing ever happened. The little bit of alcahol in the fluid helps the evaporation process, plus it doesn't freeze and crack your bottle. I am betting your driving has been all short trips with no heavy pulls. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 141 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Those crappy servos
In a message dated 4/13/2006 5:26:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When my '78 300D was only two years old, the servo sprung a big leak. Made it the eight miles home and paid $118 for a new one which I installed myself, of course. I bet you were using the dreaded green antifreeze! Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 141 K miles
[MBZ] 1960 190D on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4630110321 Out here on the West coast there are so many old Benzes for sale that I don't feel the need to investigate each and every one that comes up, but I'm really tempted to go and check this thing out. How often do you get a chance to drive a Ponton, let alone a diesel one? I promise a full report if I do. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the sight of the tow hitch on the back, though. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] OH MY!!
Oh that is nasty! I guess I just love the old classics in original condition. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] OH MY!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1968-Mercedes-Benz_W0QQitemZ4630505259QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Another project for Jim C.
that looks identical to my first MB - my 74 240D. Even has the correctly faded green paint. On 4/15/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/151249442.html Another one? No way! Besides, it's a gasser. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] (D)evolution
Those outside temp modules fetch a pretty penny on eBay if the LCD is in good shape. In fact I suspect that when they die the only component that's actually bad, most of the time, is the display itself. Jim, if you can take one of those apart and figure out if that's in fact the case and how to hack in a cheap off-the-shelf LCD, you'll be a hero to many. (Obi-Jim Kenobi, you're our only hope.) I know of no way to fix the LCD once the seal has cracked. I don't think the article I remember from a 70's electronics magazine where you eyedroppered in bulk LCD fluid is really applicable anymore! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] (D)evolution
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:17:07 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those outside temp modules fetch a pretty penny on eBay if the LCD is in good shape. In fact I suspect that when they die the only component that's actually bad, most of the time, is the display itself. Jim, if you can take one of those apart and figure out if that's in fact the case and how to hack in a cheap off-the-shelf LCD, you'll be a hero to many. (Obi-Jim Kenobi, you're our only hope.) I know of no way to fix the LCD once the seal has cracked. I don't think the article I remember from a 70's electronics magazine where you eyedroppered in bulk LCD fluid is really applicable anymore! Hard to say. How about replacing the existing LCD with a new one from some place like DigiKey or Mouser? Craig
Re: [MBZ] 1960 190D on eBay
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 01:42:57 -0700 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4630110321 Out here on the West coast there are so many old Benzes for sale that I don't feel the need to investigate each and every one that comes up, but I'm really tempted to go and check this thing out. How often do you get a chance to drive a Ponton, let alone a diesel one? I promise a full report if I do. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the sight of the tow hitch on the back, though. As long as it hasn't pulled the bumper attachments out, you should be OK. I noticed that Benz, too, and was intrigued until I saw: http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/c3/96/59_12.JPG Running an engine without an air filter is a way to ruin it in short order. Having been burnt that way before, I'm really leery of the car. I sent a message to the seller commenting about the lack of an air filter and got no response. My Dad lives in Eugene, so going there to get the car isn't out of the question. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 1960 190D on eBay
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:37:36 -0600 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And speaking about, http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/c3/96/59_12.JPG , What in the world is that thing between the radiator and the intake manifold? I would guess a thermostat, but it certainly looks odd! Craig
Re: [MBZ] (D)evolution
On 4/15/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 07:17:07 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those outside temp modules fetch a pretty penny on eBay if the LCD is in good shape. In fact I suspect that when they die the only component that's actually bad, most of the time, is the display itself. Jim, if you can take one of those apart and figure out if that's in fact the case and how to hack in a cheap off-the-shelf LCD, you'll be a hero to many. (Obi-Jim Kenobi, you're our only hope.) I know of no way to fix the LCD once the seal has cracked. I don't think the article I remember from a 70's electronics magazine where you eyedroppered in bulk LCD fluid is really applicable anymore! Hard to say. How about replacing the existing LCD with a new one from some place like DigiKey or Mouser? That's what I meant. Is bulk LCD fluid like blinker fluid? ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] IP Advance (??)
David, What does it idle after it is warmed up? Andy On 4/14/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: It just pulls the linkage a bit to give a faster idle -- otherwise they tend to stall when very cold. I wish they'd kept that feature in later cars. I have to drive mine with one foot on the gas and one on the brake, for the first few minutes, or it wants to stall. Idle speed on a cold start is only 500-600 RPM, not enough to keep it lit. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
