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If you are getting this they are working. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components]
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:33:38 -0400 From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 5, 2006, at 8:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes me wonder if the belt tensioners on the 123's go bad ? I am just about to replace my belts. Thanks, Dan Elliott Dan, Belt tension is adjusted manually by moving the belt driven accessories, so there is no belt tensioner per se. The pair of alternator belts is adjusted at the alternator, PS belt tension at the PS pump and AC belt tension at the compressor. Each accessory has a pivot bolt and slider bolt(s) there is also a bolt or threaded rodnut at each that is tightened or loosened accordingly for proper belt tension. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] [SL]Hood Pad Glue
'83 380 SL Hood pad starting to come unglued . Sagging , partially falling down. Glue recommendations ? Or is replacement imminent ? David W. Hibbert
[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: cheap SDL]
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] cheap SDL Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:21:25 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-300sdl_W0QQitemZ8071809890QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-Mercedes-300sdl_W0QQitemZ8071809890QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem At least the seller's honest about the head needing to be done! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
[MBZ] Lists should be back up now
If you are getting this they are working. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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on 6/6/06 12:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. Ayup
Re: [MBZ] [SL]Hood Pad Glue
David W. Hibbert wrote: '83 380 SL Hood pad starting to come unglued . Sagging , partially falling down. Glue recommendations ? Or is replacement imminent ? All of my mid '80s Mercedes hood pads have disintegrated and required replacement. A new one for your car will cost about $50 in the aftermarket. I use 3m 8090 SUPER trim adhesive spray. I'm told that Liquid Nails works well too, but I've not tried it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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I'm getting the Messages Ok Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online.
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Got it... Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you failed yet again. On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:57:56 -0500, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. I'm pretty sure I'm here!! And I'm pretty sure you're there!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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helloo???/ On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:34:53 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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root wrote: test Toast! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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I'm getting everything as far as I know---although how would I know if I weren't? It's like a lecturer saying Raise your hand if you can't hear me. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 6/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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its good 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: root [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 02:57:56 + Subject: [MBZ] (no subject) test ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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comming through 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:34:53 -0500 Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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there's a crackerbox in every bunch LOL!! 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:55:20 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) you failed yet again. On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:57:56 -0500, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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No I am not getting the message, anyone out there...help Hendrik who is just being stupid again - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/348 - Release Date: 25/05/2006
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in that case you better raise your hand 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:56:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. I'm getting everything as far as I know---although how would I know if I weren't? It's like a lecturer saying Raise your hand if you can't hear me. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 6/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 23:34:53 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. Loud and clear in Los Alamos, NM! Craig
Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
86 diesel jeep cherokee? didnt know they made them.. For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and smoky. Perhaps VM engines. RLE
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Re: [MBZ] [SL]Hood Pad Glue
Hood pad starting to come unglued . Sagging , partially falling down. 3M Super trim adhesive is the glue, but usually the things start falling down because the foam of the pad is decomposing. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 76 240D HP Torque specs?
How does the 240D engine compare to that? [78HP @3200RPM] A non-turbo 300D engine is about 80 HP. (With turbo it's up to about 120.) This is the 5-cylinder OM617. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:45:53AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 86 diesel jeep cherokee?? didnt know they made them.. For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and smoky. Perhaps VM engines. Renault. Available stateside two years (86, 87?). 2.1L TD. Even with the turbo, a non-turbo 300D would leave it sitting. Good chance of a good running stick 240D doing the same. Parts quite expensive. K
Re: [MBZ] [SL]Hood Pad Glue
David W. Hibbert wrote: '83 380 SL Hood pad starting to come unglued . Sagging , partially falling down. Glue recommendations ? Or is replacement imminent ? All of my mid '80s Mercedes hood pads have disintegrated and required replacement. A new one for your car will cost about $50 in the aftermarket. I use 3m 8090 SUPER trim adhesive spray. I'm told that Liquid Nails works well too, but I've not tried it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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I'm getting mine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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greetings On 6/6/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting mine. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:35 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
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Fine Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online.
Re: [MBZ] 76 240D HP Torque specs?
I need the torque specs and RPM range for both HP and torque as well. Thanks, Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 76 240D HP Torque specs? How does the 240D engine compare to that? [78HP @3200RPM] A non-turbo 300D engine is about 80 HP. (With turbo it's up to about 120.) This is the 5-cylinder OM617. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Looks good. Thanks for keeping it going! From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/06/06 Tue AM 12:34:53 EDT To: mercedes@okiebenz.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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it's back on. On 6/6/06, Richard Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks good. Thanks for keeping it going! From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/06/06 Tue AM 12:34:53 EDT To: mercedes@okiebenz.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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At 11:34 PM -0500 6/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. Sorry, never saw the message. :D -MMM-
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Coming in in living color. Anthony On 6/6/06, M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:34 PM -0500 6/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. Sorry, never saw the message. :D -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Anthony
Re: [MBZ] 76 240D HP Torque specs?
I found 67 HP in the 123 chassis and 62 HP in the 115 chassis, both at 4350 RPM. No torque specs yet --- On 6/6/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need the torque specs and RPM range for both HP and torque as well. Thanks, Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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Kaleb Its good here, post a paypal account and I'll help your change over with some $$. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Signal report is 599 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Branson
OK Kaleb. Now I'm here. And here is something I found in my bounced emai (to the old URL) David Brodbeck wrote: Mostly the speed limit is just enforced more strictly on out-of-staters. ……Ohio, in particular, is so infamous for this that Michigan residents have a joke that the speed of light in Ohio is 65 mph. I've heard this for years, but seriously doubt the Ohio State Troopers are targeting Michigan drivers. I live in Ohio and have many extended family members in Michigan. Furthermore, I commute on I-75,daily. I-75 is Michigan's main artery through Ohio. Ohio strictly enforces speed limits upon EVERYBODY. When driving in Michigan, I note little regard by ANYBODY for the speedlimits. When commuting in Ohio, if someone passes me on I-75 like I'm tied to a tree, the passing car will very often have Michigan plates. I conclude that Michigan drivers are just not conditioned to expect the strict enforcement that Ohio drivers are used to. But maybe it's just all a matter of perception. Ned Kleinhenz
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Root? You are sending out email as root? Sigh ... ! On 6/5/06, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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I got it as part of the digest. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
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Didn't get the actual message [unless someone was messing with my email, which does happen], but this one came through fine. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Kramarcy Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Fine Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK, got the original message later. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal Kramarcy Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Fine Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message thanks.
I got it too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Jarrett Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 8:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message thanks. Got it. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.2/357 - Release Date: 6/6/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 7, Issue 19
Ok here. Constantine
[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/ Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:28:11 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch.
[MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle]
Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day CL in Seattle Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 06:34:30 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] redghost wrote: Jim would be able to avoid monorail by registering in Spokane But maybe not the sales tax on the supposed five digit value of a MBZ. ;-)
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message.
OK, thanks anyway. M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 11:34 PM -0500 6/5/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. Sorry, never saw the message. :D -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message.
Ja At 11:34 PM 6/5/2006, you wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message.
I did??? WOW, I didnt think anyone passed. Chuck Landenberger wrote: You passed! On Jun 5, 2006, at 9:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message.
Thats good to know. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Need to make sure everything is back online. I'm pretty sure I'm here!! And I'm pretty sure you're there!! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
who failed? Luther Gulseth wrote: you failed yet again. On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:57:56 -0500, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now
Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:45:53AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 86 diesel jeep cherokee?? didnt know they made them.. For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and smoky. Perhaps VM engines. Renault. Available stateside two years (86, 87?). 2.1L TD. Even with the turbo, a non-turbo 300D would leave it sitting. Good chance of a good running stick 240D doing the same. Parts quite expensive. K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message.
Naw, you dont need to do that. If I need to I will do a fund raiser but I doubt it. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb Its good here, post a paypal account and I'll help your change over with some $$. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message. Need to make sure everything is back online. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
no LT Don wrote: Root? You are sending out email as root? Sigh ... ! On 6/5/06, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Reply if you are getting this message.
cool Donald Snook wrote: I got it as part of the digest. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
Same reasons the Nissans in Scouts were slow. Nobody builds automotive diesels like MB and VW. High RPM, Inj timing advance, high P/W ratio, high performance inj pumps. Related to why MB 4 and 6 cyl gassers outperform detroit iron on P/W or HP/Cu In At 08:41 AM 6/6/2006, you wrote: Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:45:53AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 86 diesel jeep cherokee?? didnt know they made them.. For the European market. I saw a few in Italy about that time. Slow and smoky. Perhaps VM engines. Renault. Available stateside two years (86, 87?). 2.1L TD. Even with the turbo, a non-turbo 300D would leave it sitting. Good chance of a good running stick 240D doing the same. Parts quite expensive. K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle]
Jim would be able to avoid monorail by registering in Spokane But maybe not the sales tax on the supposed five digit value of a MBZ. ;-) That is what the http://www.dor.wa.gov/Docs/Forms/Misc/ DeclarBuyerSllrRcValueUsedVehSold_E.pdf Declaration of Buyer and Seller Regarding Value of Used Vehicle Sold form is for. And I have it. WA State buyers of part-ey cars, don't leave home without it! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message.
Kaleb will be clueless to that one. Luther OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Signal report is 599 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
[MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage
After I adjusted the valves on my SD I found that the throttle linkage was pushing the pump throttle lever a bit causing high idle (950 - 1000). I tried to be careful when removing the linkage and replacing it. In an attempt to get back to where it was. Is it possible to do this.Am I wasiting my time? I wanted to avoid re-adjusting it .. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket) From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jun 06 14:49:33 2006 Received: from mailrelay1-3.megawebservers.com ([216.251.35.242] helo=mailrelay1-on) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fncs8-0001zL-Gc for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:49:32 + Received: from web244.megawebservers.com (web244.megawebservers.com [216.251.42.124]) by mailrelay1-on (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k56EnSDM005322 for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:49:29 -0400 Received: from web244.megawebservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by web244.megawebservers.com (8.13.6/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id k56EmsOc012441 for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:48:55 -0400 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by web244.megawebservers.com (8.13.6/8.12.6/Submit) id k56EmoVL012440; Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:48:50 -0400 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Authentication-Warning: web244.megawebservers.com: webmail.technostars.com set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 14:48:49 - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: TWIG 2.7.5 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] (no subject) X-BeenThere: Mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 14:49:33 - root Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: who failed? Luther Gulseth wrote: you failed yet again. On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:57:56 -0500, root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: test -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now
or the 7 of 11 links on okiebenz.com that do not work. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] [SL]Hood Pad Glue
David, If you do decide to remove the old hood liner. Use an old sheet/drop cloth to cover the engine compartment. Gets messy without it. And be careful with the putty knife/? when you clean it up, so you don't score the underside of the hood. There are fiberglass blades that are better out there... Perhaps this is self-evident, but just thought I'd throw out a reminder Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 6, 2006, at 12:02 AM, Marshall Booth wrote: David W. Hibbert wrote: '83 380 SL Hood pad starting to come unglued . Sagging , partially falling down. Glue recommendations ? Or is replacement imminent ? All of my mid '80s Mercedes hood pads have disintegrated and required replacement. A new one for your car will cost about $50 in the aftermarket. I use 3m 8090 SUPER trim adhesive spray. I'm told that Liquid Nails works well too, but I've not tried it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 28. EBay confirmed that the order had been placed. It's been ten days and I haven't received the item. I emailed the seller and received the usual form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't. Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time? This is my first purchase from EBay. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D --- - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Gerry - I have been on eBay for years, with very few problems [286 feedback with 100$ positive]. Many sellers use the cheapest [and slowest] shipping available, and it can take some time, especially with the delays of packing and shipping schedules for some. Some folks only ship once a week, but they should let you know that. Check the seller's feedback first [I don't buy anything from sellers with very low or negative feedback unless it is really cheap] and that should give you some idea if others have had problems. This being Tues I make the assumption the 48 hours started over the weekend. If this is one of the thousands of businesses on eBay they often only count business days. Could be you will hear today - of they could be out of town or sick or just not very responsible. Good luck. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 276k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 28. EBay confirmed that the order had been placed. It's been ten days and I haven't received the item. I emailed the seller and received the usual form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't. Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time? This is my first purchase from EBay. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D --- - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
My buddy has been trying to get a CD for his 79 SL, Rusty says they are back-ordered or something. Annoying. No wonder people make copies and post them on the net. I somehow expect better from MB. --R Luther Gulseth wrote: I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Send the seller another e-mail giving them 24 hours to respond. Then contact e-bay and Paypal to report them if they don't respond to your satisfaction. Don't wait too long. Mike - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 28. EBay confirmed that the order had been placed. It's been ten days and I haven't received the item. I emailed the seller and received the usual form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't. Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time? This is my first purchase from EBay. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D --- - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Mike's advice is good on not waiting... the rules can get a bit arcane, between eBay and PayPal. You have to wait a certain amount of time to make the complaint, yet you only have 30 days from the transaction date to file a PayPal claim (or so it was last summer, when I got ripped that way). Mac on 6/6/06 12:17 PM, Mike Canfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send the seller another e-mail giving them 24 hours to respond. Then contact e-bay and Paypal to report them if they don't respond to your satisfaction. Don't wait too long. Mike - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 28. EBay confirmed that the order had been placed. It's been ten days and I haven't received the item. I emailed the seller and received the usual form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't. Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time? This is my first purchase from EBay. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D --- - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage
You've put something back wrong, or something is caught (or binding) on another piece. I've had this happen on top of the valve cover, where you (I assume) have two pivots where multiple linkages join. Make sure the pivots are not catching. Also, it's actually possible for the linkages to work with at least one of the pivots spun 180 deg around, so make sure they are okay. Anyone on the list got an '85 SD and a digicam, to send George a quick pic of the linkage setup? I have an '82, and I'd rather it be the right (MY) car Mac on 6/6/06 10:46 AM, George Larribeau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After I adjusted the valves on my SD I found that the throttle linkage was pushing the pump throttle lever a bit causing high idle (950 - 1000). I tried to be careful when removing the linkage and replacing it. In an attempt to get back to where it was. Is it possible to do this.Am I wasiting my time? I wanted to avoid re-adjusting it ..
Re: [MBZ] Ebay/Paypal issue
If the seller hasn't contacted you since the auction ended, contact Paypal and start charge back proceedings today. That will get the seller's attention and they will communicate with you quickly. Luther Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mike's advice is good on not waiting... the rules can get a bit arcane, between eBay and PayPal. You have to wait a certain amount of time to make the complaint, yet you only have 30 days from the transaction date to file a PayPal claim (or so it was last summer, when I got ripped that way). Mac on 6/6/06 12:17 PM, Mike Canfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send the seller another e-mail giving them 24 hours to respond. Then contact e-bay and Paypal to report them if they don't respond to your satisfaction. Don't wait too long. Mike - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 28. EBay confirmed that the order had been placed. It's been ten days and I haven't received the item. I emailed the seller and received the usual form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't. Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time? This is my first purchase from EBay. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Thanks, Bill and Mike, Think I'll follow your suggestion, Mike, since EBay/Paypal will probably contact the seller and the seller will then email me. Hopefully the seller will answer my second email and I won't have to contact EBay/Paypal. Bill, I appreciate the tips on dealing with Ebay. Now I'll know what to expect at times. This sellers feedback was very good. - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gerry - I have been on eBay for years, with very few problems [286 feedback with 100$ positive]. Many sellers use the cheapest [and slowest] shipping available, and it can take some time, especially with the delays of packing and shipping schedules for some. Some folks only ship once a week, but they should let you know that. Check the seller's feedback first [I don't buy anything from sellers with very low or negative feedback unless it is really cheap] and that should give you some idea if others have had problems. This being Tues I make the assumption the 48 hours started over the weekend. If this is one of the thousands of businesses on eBay they often only count business days. Could be you will hear today - of they could be out of town or sick or just not very responsible. Good luck. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 276k miles -- - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send the seller another e-mail giving them 24 hours to respond. Then contact e-bay and Paypal to report them if they don't respond to your satisfaction. Don't wait too long.
Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
I have a 1980 240D with a leaky rear windshield. I know I can get the seal from Rusty (thank you!). Is there anyone in the Atlanta area who knows of a glass shop that will replace this seal - do a decent job - I have a replacement rear windshield in case it breaks. I hade Pro-lightning glass quote me $170 in labor. This seems a bit high? No? Thanks for the help Ben On 6/6/06 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to Mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lists should be back up now (Kaleb C. Striplin) 2. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Kaleb C. Striplin) 3. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 4. Re: (no subject) (Kaleb C. Striplin) 5. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 6. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Loren Faeth) 7. Re: [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle] (Jim Cathey) 8. Re: [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message. (Luther Gulseth) 9. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Luther Gulseth) 10. 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (George Larribeau) 11. Re: (no subject) (Luther Gulseth) 12. Re: Lists should be back up now (Luther Gulseth) 13. Re: [SL]Hood Pad Glue (Chuck Landenberger) 14. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (archer) 15. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (BillR) 16. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Rich Thomas) 17. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Mike Canfield) 18. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Steve MacSween) 19. Re: 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (Steve MacSween) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:40:39 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Benjamin B. Karp President/Owner Georgia CPR, LLC 678-362-7094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gacpr.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
MB, for the most part, doesn't car anymore about us guys who want to keep our cars on the road. They are only concerned about the knucks who lease their newer models and about the money-bag yahoos who buy their high-end stuff. MB has becomed annoyed with us (us meaning anyone who would be on this list). Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] My buddy has been trying to get a CD for his 79 SL, Rusty says they are back-ordered or something. Annoying. No wonder people make copies and post them on the net. I somehow expect better from MB. --R Luther Gulseth wrote: I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage
one of the pivots spun 180 deg around Did not think of that, will investigate ... George Larribeau - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage You've put something back wrong, or something is caught (or binding) on another piece. I've had this happen on top of the valve cover, where you (I assume) have two pivots where multiple linkages join. Make sure the pivots are not catching. Also, it's actually possible for the linkages to work with at least one of the pivots spun 180 deg around, so make sure they are okay. Anyone on the list got an '85 SD and a digicam, to send George a quick pic of the linkage setup? I have an '82, and I'd rather it be the right (MY) car Mac on 6/6/06 10:46 AM, George Larribeau at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After I adjusted the valves on my SD I found that the throttle linkage was pushing the pump throttle lever a bit causing high idle (950 - 1000). I tried to be careful when removing the linkage and replacing it. In an attempt to get back to where it was. Is it possible to do this.Am I wasiting my time? I wanted to avoid re-adjusting it .. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
I hade Pro-lightning glass quote me $170 in labor. Sounds a lot like the quote I got. It was more than the new seal and a used piece of glass would cost, together. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Ebay/Paypal issue
More good advice and information! Thanks, Gerry -- - Original Message - From: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the seller hasn't contacted you since the auction ended, contact Paypal and start charge back proceedings today. That will get the seller's attention and they will communicate with you quickly. Luther Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mike's advice is good on not waiting... the rules can get a bit arcane, between eBay and PayPal. You have to wait a certain amount of time to make the complaint, yet you only have 30 days from the transaction date to file a PayPal claim (or so it was last summer, when I got ripped that way). Mac on 6/6/06 12:17 PM, Mike Canfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send the seller another e-mail giving them 24 hours to respond. Then contact e-bay and Paypal to report them if they don't respond to your satisfaction. Don't wait too long. Mike - Original Message - From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I signed up with EBay, opened a Paypal account, and ordered something on May 28. EBay confirmed that the order had been placed. It's been ten days and I haven't received the item. I emailed the seller and received the usual form letter stating that they would respond in 48 hours, which they didn't. Do I contact EBay, Paypal, or give the seller more time? This is my first purchase from EBay. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D
[MBZ] Speed enforcement (was: Re: MBZ Branson)
ned kleinhenz wrote: Ohio strictly enforces speed limits upon EVERYBODY. When driving in Michigan, I note little regard by ANYBODY for the speedlimits. That's certainly true, especially around the Detroit area. Unless you're doing something really egregious, like weaving through traffic, you're unlikely to get ticketed there. I don't know why this is; maybe they have higher priorities. It certainly can't be that they don't need the revenue. Since you mention I-75, I'm curious what your impression of the drivers there is like. On my few trips through Ohio on I-75, I've seen some pretty crazy behavior, like people passing on the left shoulder. Is that typical Ohio driving or was I just observing a rare nutcase?
Re: [MBZ] Speed enforcement (was: Re: MBZ Branson)
In Ohio, the rare nutcase is very common. They also pass on the right shoulder. We also have our fair share of silver haired drivers that are so short, the car looks unoccupied from behind. They usually have the clip on wrap-around rear view mirror and the amber sunglasses that fit over their trifocals. I can make fun of them because I only wear bifocals. -Dave Walton 94S350, 99E300 On 6/6/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ned kleinhenz wrote: Ohio strictly enforces speed limits upon EVERYBODY. When driving in Michigan, I note little regard by ANYBODY for the speedlimits. That's certainly true, especially around the Detroit area. Unless you're doing something really egregious, like weaving through traffic, you're unlikely to get ticketed there. I don't know why this is; maybe they have higher priorities. It certainly can't be that they don't need the revenue. Since you mention I-75, I'm curious what your impression of the drivers there is like. On my few trips through Ohio on I-75, I've seen some pretty crazy behavior, like people passing on the left shoulder. Is that typical Ohio driving or was I just observing a rare nutcase? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
we can't compare XJ Cherokees to the Full Size J**ps; XJs (like those of the diesel vintage) didn't weigh anywhere near that much. since they're frame-less unitized construction, even with the wife and myself in ours, our modified mid-90s 4x4 XJ with a 4.0L and automatic trans weighs in under under 4000 lbs. basic feeling amongst XJ enthusiasts (even us cross-over diesel enthusiasts) is that the diesel motor used in those mid-80s XJs just plain sucked. interesting side notes; now that DCX has announced that they're going to do a diesel Grand Cherokee, they announced yesterday that they're going to discontinue the anemic-performing diesel KJ (Liberty) for the US market (citing cost concerns with trying to meet the more stringent emissions regulations coming into effect next year). cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. Jeeps are HEAVY. I don't know what a Cherokee weighed, but the 70s Wagoneers were nearly three tons IIRC.
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:22:05AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Wonder why they were so slow, even with turbos. Jeeps are HEAVY. I don't know what a Cherokee weighed, but the 70s Wagoneers were nearly three tons IIRC. For starters, that cherokee was a completely different platform than a 70s wagoneer. Look under a 70s wagoneer (or even an 84-91 grand wagoneer), and you will not see a dana 35, coil sprung front axle, or unibody construction. Second, a v8 quadratrac four door full size jeep from the seventies with the ultra-rare two-tank option weighs 4600 lbs on the scales. I have one. [And yes, it really needs the second tank. Boy is that thing thirsty.] Third, an XJ was actually the lightest sport utility you could get your hands on well into the nineties. An 85 four banger gasser was right around 3000 lbs (maybe 3100? been a while). The 2.1L TD was fine offroad, but it really was not powerful on the street. It didn't even have enough power to stress the fragile-as-glass peugeot five speed it came with, that the sixes destroyed. K
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
Kevin wrote: Second, a v8 quadratrac four door full size jeep from the seventies with the ultra-rare two-tank option weighs 4600 lbs on the scales. I have one. [And yes, it really needs the second tank. Boy is that thing thirsty.] Thanks for the correction. I had a roommate in college that had one, although his only had one tank. The gas gauge was broken, so we filled up every 100 miles, which made it depressingly easy to figure the fuel economy. If I remember right we got 10 mpg solo, 6 mpg pulling a snowmobile trailer.
[MBZ] 77-83 240D Glow system
I am considering a 1977 240D engine for my 1983 240D. I know that the glow plugs and glow electric systems are different. Can the 77 system be made to work in a 83 car? Thanks, John Ingram Baltimore
Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
I always use Lightning Auto Glass on Buford Highway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Karp Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:30 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal I have a 1980 240D with a leaky rear windshield. I know I can get the seal from Rusty (thank you!). Is there anyone in the Atlanta area who knows of a glass shop that will replace this seal - do a decent job - I have a replacement rear windshield in case it breaks. I hade Pro-lightning glass quote me $170 in labor. This seems a bit high? No? Thanks for the help Ben On 6/6/06 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to Mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lists should be back up now (Kaleb C. Striplin) 2. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Kaleb C. Striplin) 3. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 4. Re: (no subject) (Kaleb C. Striplin) 5. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 6. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Loren Faeth) 7. Re: [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle] (Jim Cathey) 8. Re: [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message. (Luther Gulseth) 9. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Luther Gulseth) 10. 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (George Larribeau) 11. Re: (no subject) (Luther Gulseth) 12. Re: Lists should be back up now (Luther Gulseth) 13. Re: [SL]Hood Pad Glue (Chuck Landenberger) 14. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (archer) 15. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (BillR) 16. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Rich Thomas) 17. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Mike Canfield) 18. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Steve MacSween) 19. Re: 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (Steve MacSween) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:40:39 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Benjamin B. Karp President/Owner Georgia CPR, LLC 678-362-7094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gacpr.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
I meant Peachtree Industrial Blvd. in Chamblee. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Karp Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:30 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal I have a 1980 240D with a leaky rear windshield. I know I can get the seal from Rusty (thank you!). Is there anyone in the Atlanta area who knows of a glass shop that will replace this seal - do a decent job - I have a replacement rear windshield in case it breaks. I hade Pro-lightning glass quote me $170 in labor. This seems a bit high? No? Thanks for the help Ben On 6/6/06 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to Mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lists should be back up now (Kaleb C. Striplin) 2. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Kaleb C. Striplin) 3. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 4. Re: (no subject) (Kaleb C. Striplin) 5. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 6. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Loren Faeth) 7. Re: [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle] (Jim Cathey) 8. Re: [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message. (Luther Gulseth) 9. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Luther Gulseth) 10. 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (George Larribeau) 11. Re: (no subject) (Luther Gulseth) 12. Re: Lists should be back up now (Luther Gulseth) 13. Re: [SL]Hood Pad Glue (Chuck Landenberger) 14. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (archer) 15. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (BillR) 16. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Rich Thomas) 17. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Mike Canfield) 18. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Steve MacSween) 19. Re: 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (Steve MacSween) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:40:39 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Benjamin B. Karp President/Owner Georgia CPR, LLC 678-362-7094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gacpr.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
One of my colleagues brought their 560SL into Lightning only to have it returned to them with a torn and heavily damaged dash. Lightning called it unavoidable damage and refused to accept responsibility for the damage. I have heard good things about Triumph Auto Glass in Lilburn off Hwy 29 but have not used them personally. Finding a good glass shop is like finding a good alignment shop. They are far and few in between. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I always use Lightning Auto Glass on Buford Highway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Karp Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:30 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal I have a 1980 240D with a leaky rear windshield. I know I can get the seal from Rusty (thank you!). Is there anyone in the Atlanta area who knows of a glass shop that will replace this seal - do a decent job - I have a replacement rear windshield in case it breaks. I hade Pro-lightning glass quote me $170 in labor. This seems a bit high? No? Thanks for the help Ben On 6/6/06 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to Mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lists should be back up now (Kaleb C. Striplin) 2. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Kaleb C. Striplin) 3. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 4. Re: (no subject) (Kaleb C. Striplin) 5. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 6. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Loren Faeth) 7. Re: [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle] (Jim Cathey) 8. Re: [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message. (Luther Gulseth) 9. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Luther Gulseth) 10. 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (George Larribeau) 11. Re: (no subject) (Luther Gulseth) 12. Re: Lists should be back up now (Luther Gulseth) 13. Re: [SL]Hood Pad Glue (Chuck Landenberger) 14. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (archer) 15. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (BillR) 16. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Rich Thomas) 17. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Mike Canfield) 18. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Steve MacSween) 19. Re: 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (Steve MacSween) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:40:39 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Benjamin B. Karp President/Owner Georgia CPR, LLC 678-362-7094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gacpr.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cherokees
David B. wrote: I had a roommate in college that had one, although his only had one tank. The gas gauge was broken, so we filled up every 100 miles, which made it depressingly easy to figure the fuel economy. If I remember right we got 10 mpg solo, 6 mpg pulling a snowmobile trailer. I had a 1979 Grand Wagoneer with the 360 V8 and quadratrac and big beefy off-road tires. I once got 14 mpg. I was so thrilled. I must have driven 48 mph on the highway down hill with the wind at my back, because I always got 10.5 mpg. I loved that old Jeep, but it was a beast. It had over 300K on the engine. The previous owner had the engine rebuilt at 220K. When the a/c went out, they just got rid of it all. Took the compressor out and changed the belts so that the a/c never came into play. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 127K 1992 olds 98 122K For Sale $1500
[MBZ] Buford, Georgia
Rusty wrote: I always use Lightning Auto Glass on Buford Highway. Are you in Buford, Georgia? I was just there two weeks ago. My Sister in Law works at Eagle Ranch and she got married. We stayed in Buford at a Hotel on Mall of Georgia Blvd. I roamed around the little towns down there and it looked really nice. Donald H. Snook
Re: [MBZ] neck snapping performance
A non-turbo 300D engine is about 80 HP. (With turbo it's up to about 120.) This is the 5-cylinder OM617. My '78 was 77hp. Governed at 4400rpm/99 mph. Eventually. RLE
Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal
Amen!Hi Mathieu! good to see you again! Hope you are doing well! At 02:34 PM 6/6/2006, you wrote: One of my colleagues brought their 560SL into Lightning only to have it returned to them with a torn and heavily damaged dash. Lightning called it unavoidable damage and refused to accept responsibility for the damage. I have heard good things about Triumph Auto Glass in Lilburn off Hwy 29 but have not used them personally. Finding a good glass shop is like finding a good alignment shop. They are far and few in between. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I always use Lightning Auto Glass on Buford Highway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Karp Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 1:30 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Rear window seal I have a 1980 240D with a leaky rear windshield. I know I can get the seal from Rusty (thank you!). Is there anyone in the Atlanta area who knows of a glass shop that will replace this seal - do a decent job - I have a replacement rear windshield in case it breaks. I hade Pro-lightning glass quote me $170 in labor. This seems a bit high? No? Thanks for the help Ben On 6/6/06 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to Mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lists should be back up now (Kaleb C. Striplin) 2. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Kaleb C. Striplin) 3. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 4. Re: (no subject) (Kaleb C. Striplin) 5. Re: Reply if you are getting this message. (Kaleb C. Striplin) 6. Re: Diesel Cherokees (Loren Faeth) 7. Re: [Fwd: Re: Memorial Day CL in Seattle] (Jim Cathey) 8. Re: [Banned] Reply if you are getting this message. (Luther Gulseth) 9. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Luther Gulseth) 10. 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (George Larribeau) 11. Re: (no subject) (Luther Gulseth) 12. Re: Lists should be back up now (Luther Gulseth) 13. Re: [SL]Hood Pad Glue (Chuck Landenberger) 14. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (archer) 15. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (BillR) 16. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access - to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Rich Thomas) 17. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Mike Canfield) 18. Re: [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -tohttp://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] (Steve MacSween) 19. Re: 300SD - 85 - Throttle linkage (Steve MacSween) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:40:39 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lists should be back up now To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well better than some of the mbz.org major transitions anyways. There are still a few bugs to work out. Last I checked the june archives were not up, and most of the pages for the list still go to striplin.net. Other than that everthing seems to be working though. Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If you are getting this they are working. MUCH smoother than I'd expected. Congratulations! Marshall -- Benjamin B. Karp President/Owner Georgia CPR, LLC 678-362-7094 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gacpr.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access-to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Yea, things change. MB is just real corporate like any thing else. When I got my 300SD summer before last I was quite surprised that there were no paper repair books from MB (and apparently no transmission books in any format) only CD with crappy PDF-s In 1980 when I quit my job overseas at the NASA tracking station on Ascension Island I hung out in Florida for a bit and bought a 1970 280SE 4dr. (I loved that car). The biggest mistake I made with it was having the transmission worked on by an Inde Trans shop.(I had some other work done on the car by an Inde that was from S.A. (Argentina? Memory failing on that point) and he was very good. Getting back the trans shop got the car back and took in home to San Francisco (Where I was originally from) never was quite sure about the transmission, which in about 3 months died. Shopped around for a repair, prices were outrages (for me any way). At this point I knew I needed to know more about the car. Found a phone number for MB corporate on the East coast some where and was able to order a paper book for the car and a Transmission book. In time my books arrived. Looked into a used transmission, deal fell through so I dismantled the one I had, Wrong number of plates in one on the clutch packs and all kinds of other fun Got close to buying parts from the dealer until I discovered the valve body had the wrong part number and would not be accepted for exchange. About this time I found a Inde repair guy a little north of San Jose. Had a large shop with a number of people working for him, He was older and still had all of his training certificates on the wall for servicing Mercedes Benz Issued by the Studebaker Packard Corporation. When I met him I made some comment about what cars were built during the war and with good English in a very strong German accent he informed me that manufacturing was consumed by the production of panzers. (I will never know if this was serious or a joke, kind of hard to tell) I asked him about parts (for my transmission project), my current parts estimate total was exceeding $700. He told me that he could get me an exchange transmission from the old country in a crate for $1000 exchange. I told him I all ready took it apart, his reply was as long as it looks complete it would be accepted as a core. I went home, reassembled it, brought it in and got a remanf. Transmission. Worked fine. 2 years latter the car got totaled. I loved that car It's demise saddens me to this day. I still find it strange that MB doesn't allow reprints of the older service books and only sells the CD-s That is a bit corporate of them. George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket) - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 12:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access-to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] MB, for the most part, doesn't car anymore about us guys who want to keep our cars on the road. They are only concerned about the knucks who lease their newer models and about the money-bag yahoos who buy their high-end stuff. MB has becomed annoyed with us (us meaning anyone who would be on this list). Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/] My buddy has been trying to get a CD for his 79 SL, Rusty says they are back-ordered or something. Annoying. No wonder people make copies and post them on the net. I somehow expect better from MB. --R Luther Gulseth wrote: I purchased my 126 cd's from an ebayer that claimed they were new. When they arrived, they were copies and I made him (through paypal) refund me the $120 I paid for the disks. Take that for his revenue. Luther Striplin Admin account [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Luther Gulseth wrote: Then the Ebayers will show up with the copied disks.. Wouldn't it be funny if the ones complaining about MB's copyrights being violated were really the ebay pirates upset about lost revenues? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] 240D from VA to PA, need advice..
I'm in need of some advice. I have a car I want to buy that's located in Virginia. It's been sitting for a while so it's not inspected and it doesn't have plates. I live in PA and I'd like to drive it back. (Towing isn't an option b/c of other complications for this trip.) I don't think I can get plates for it in PA since I don't have the title. I don't think I want to try to get plates in VA since that would entail paying a bunch of fees that I'll just have to pay again in PA. You guys that buy a lot of cars, what do you do? Once I get it back in PA it's an easy process to get it properly inspected, get the title transferred and get new plates for it. ...Kevin 87 300TD 284k miles -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Re: MB Info Access -to http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/]
Bob Rentfro wrote: MB, for the most part, doesn't car anymore about us guys who want to keep our cars on the road. They are only concerned about the knucks who lease their newer models and about the money-bag yahoos who buy their high-end stuff. MB has becomed annoyed with us (us meaning anyone who would be on this list). If Mercedes didn't care, you wouldn't be able to buy parts for your 25+ year old car!! The people that manage MBUSA (run by glorified car salesman) don't care and many dealers REALLY don't care, but Mercedes cares and insists that MBUSA support older cars (check out Mercedes-Benz Classics) or they'd have sold off the old inventory that's more than 10 years old, taken the tax write off and left you to fend for yourself. http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/genuine-mb-parts.do Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] Was MB InfoAccess/skinnerbox, Now MBs Care Factor
Herr Doktor typed: The people that manage MBUSA (run by glorified car salesman) don't care and many dealers REALLY don't care, but Mercedes cares and insists that MBUSA support older cars (check out Mercedes-Benz Classics) or they'd have sold off the old inventory that's more than 10 years old, taken the tax write off and left you to fend for yourself. I guess I didn't word my little rant very well. You must deal with someone other than a dealer to get any satisfaction. The Classics guys have been top notch the few times I've delt with them Thanks for setting me straight, Herr Doktor. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 154K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] 77-83 240D Glow system
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 03:10:57PM -0400, John Ingram wrote: I am considering a 1977 240D engine for my 1983 240D. I know that the glow plugs and glow electric systems are different. Can the 77 system be made to work in a 83 car? I really can't think of a good reason to put the old series plugs and plug setup in a car with parallel plugs, especially if you live somewhere that gets cold. One could probably buy a set of fast plugs from rusty and use the 83's wiring to make it work, I'd imagine, but that would really only solve the glow plug issues, not issues with transmissions being different (if an automatic) or whatnot. K
