Re: [MBZ] ring gear spun on
Back on the road. She runs smooth with the replacement flywheel, clutch disc and p/p. Seems to be running a little hot, something to deal with tomorrow :-) Thanks for the help Regards Steve 85 Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K 79 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild 94 Dodge/Cummins PU, 100K 64 VW Bug 65 D15, AC tractor
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Fw: Need AC help on 86 SDL
You lead a charmed life, indeed! I HOPE the KLIMA is your problem. It was NEVER a problem on any of my cars EVER. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] show and shine winner
This was a really cool thing to see at the local club show and shine. It even won a prize for the after 1975 cars. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 114 wagen.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 56152 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20060717/0ac24093/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 114krank.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 61170 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20060717/0ac24093/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] show and shine winner
A 114/115 ambulance? Cell phone photos? On 7/16/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was a really cool thing to see at the local club show and shine. It even won a prize for the after 1975 cars. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] show and shine winner
I am so so sorry I forgot the chairs, the water, the last minute cleaning things, and of course, the camera Yes, it is a 114 Krankwagen, and it was too cool for words. He had placed the star in the large C pillar on both sides. Great paint and mostly stock on the outside. He rebuilt the inside to have a bed space, fold down rear seatback and removable rear seat. On Sunday, July 16, 2006, at 08:51 PM, OK Don wrote: A 114/115 ambulance? Cell phone photos? On 7/16/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was a really cool thing to see at the local club show and shine. It even won a prize for the after 1975 cars. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Jim C needs to give it serious inquisition
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/182273544.html bet you can' hear this one either blah blah blah hands over ears -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Ed Booher, get the trailer
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/182066859.html Might need to get a car hauler to take them all back with you -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Toy cars
A person can really tell which models were popular to drive by the number of examples available in the toy car listing on eBay. Nobody likes the humble 114/115. At least to make one of those chinese models. There are one or two I have found, but they cost almost as much as what I paid for Gump. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Toy cars
redghost wrote: A person can really tell which models were popular to drive by the number of examples available in the toy car listing on eBay. Nobody likes the humble 114/115. At least to make one of those chinese models. Didn't Matchbox have a 114 when they were current? I was too busy buying cars like the Iso Griffo at the time to care about MBZ sedans, so none in my collection. They cost me $1 each, which was a lot of money in the early 70's for an elementary student.
Re: [MBZ] Jim C needs to give it serious inquisition
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/182273544.html bet you can' hear this one either Eh? What was that?... -- Jim
[MBZ] 240D Vacuum Diagram
Hello All- I would like to find a Vacuum System Diagram for my 83 240D 4-speed. I notice that the vacuum line connections are numbered and I have no way of knowing if they are connected properly. I am having some engine shut off problems. I recently switched engines but the problem had started with the previous engine. If anyone has a diagram or can tell me where to find one please let me know. Thank you, John Ingram 83 240D Maryland
Re: [MBZ] show and shine winner
It does look like a realy nice job! I don't have a cell phone camera, can't decide whether I'm missing something or not -- On 7/17/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so so sorry I forgot the chairs, the water, the last minute cleaning things, and of course, the camera Yes, it is a 114 Krankwagen, and it was too cool for words. He had placed the star in the large C pillar on both sides. Great paint and mostly stock on the outside. He rebuilt the inside to have a bed space, fold down rear seatback and removable rear seat. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help
Vising the 'spare' tie rod in the parts car's steering knuckle, I was able to break loose the end I'm interested in learning about. It's a 19mm LH jam nut, jamming a flatted squeeze collar (looks like a nut, but it's not) against the threaded and slotted (pinchable) body of the rod. Easy to take apart in fact, if it's not too rusted. Now I'll move on to the ones I'm interested in mix-n-matching. They've been soaked in penetrant since yesterday. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 240D Vacuum Diagram
The vac diagrams are available here - http://www.peterschmid.com/ Hope this helps - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: John Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: New MBZ List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] 240D Vacuum Diagram Hello All- I would like to find a Vacuum System Diagram for my 83 240D 4-speed. I notice that the vacuum line connections are numbered and I have no way of knowing if they are connected properly. I am having some engine shut off problems. I recently switched engines but the problem had started with the previous engine. If anyone has a diagram or can tell me where to find one please let me know. Thank you, John Ingram 83 240D Maryland ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006
[MBZ] Losts of White smoke
My 300GD ( OM617.91 ) is currently busy with body repairs as a repair shop for a few months now - the vehicle generally gets started and run for a few seconds to move it out into the yard and then back again in the evening. The vehicle then was driven 15 km to another facility and the driver reported a large quantity of white smoke bellowing out the exhaust while engine was warming up - after which the smoke stopped and all was fine. I am some 2000 km from the facility and not able to determine first hand what is going on and was wondering what could have caused this! Any ideas PEter
[MBZ] Water leak in 300 CDT
We have a 1982 300CDT which has two water leaks into the car that I cannot figure out. First leak is in the front above the passenger side under the dash. I have looked under there, shone flashlights from the outside in a dark garage and cannot see anything that would give me a clue. I was in the passenger seat the other day in a rain storm and the water pours in a stream of water. Is there a hose to redirect water somewhere up there? The second leak is in the trunk area, again passenger side. It seems to come in under the rear dash area somewhere. Flashlight is not showing me anything and there is only so long I can lay in the trunk with it closed. The matting is soaked and the back of the rear seat is also wet. Hints would very much be appreciated. Thanks Dan
Re: [MBZ] Jim C needs to give it serious inquisition
oh my, that is ugly, what have they done to the seats? 12 gallon tank? I think not. redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/182273544.html bet you can' hear this one either blah blah blah hands over ears -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water leak in 300 CDT
you need to replace your front and rear window seals. In the front, you might also have a hole in the firewall under the battery tray. Dan Schriber wrote: We have a 1982 300CDT which has two water leaks into the car that I cannot figure out. First leak is in the front above the passenger side under the dash. I have looked under there, shone flashlights from the outside in a dark garage and cannot see anything that would give me a clue. I was in the passenger seat the other day in a rain storm and the water pours in a stream of water. Is there a hose to redirect water somewhere up there? The second leak is in the trunk area, again passenger side. It seems to come in under the rear dash area somewhere. Flashlight is not showing me anything and there is only so long I can lay in the trunk with it closed. The matting is soaked and the back of the rear seat is also wet. Hints would very much be appreciated. Thanks Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Water leak in 300 CDT
you need to replace your front and rear window seals. In the front, you might also have a hole in the firewall under the battery tray. Yeah, I'm told that acid from the battery commonly eats a hole through the firewall there, causing leaks. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Jim C needs to give it serious inquisition
oh my, that is ugly, what have they done to the seats? 12 gallon tank? I think not. Reading between the lines I think that was his typical fillup. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help
...And they came off fairly easily, now that I knew where/how to apply force. I counted the turns to remove the end from the car's rod (19), and put back the 'new' end to match. Again, this should be close enough until I can get the car aligned. The boots on the tie rod were starting to crack and tear, though the joints themselves were still clean and greasy. I used acetone and Shoe Goo to patch the tears. I really ought to replace the tie rod, but this job should do for a couple of years. I've got more immediate problems to deal with before I go spending money I don't have on the car. Moving on to the icky ball joint problem... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Battery mischief in the 300 Coupe
Jim Cathey wrote: you need to replace your front and rear window seals. In the front, you might also have a hole in the firewall under the battery tray. Yeah, I'm told that acid from the battery commonly eats a hole through the firewall there, causing leaks. -- Jim Along similar lines, if your climate Control seems incurably phucked and you can't seem to hold vacuum in ANY of the lines, check the vacuum line harness right near that pesky old battery. Give the harness a squeeze between thumb and forefinger. If if goes crunch the battery acid as gotten into the harness and destroyed the lines. Lee in Las Vegas, whose AC in Der Benz has gone south once again...
Re: [MBZ] W123 1982 240D A/C questions
Speaking of which I saw an '85 300D for sale the other day. Exterior is decent with a little rust but nothing to worry about. Interior looked very very good. Mileage in the low 200k range. I think they wanted $2k which is high but its been there for a couple weeks now. Once I'm done housebuying if theres any money left over I may go back for it. I don't think my wife is going to be real happy driving the pickup at 18mpg once her commute goes from 8 miles a day to 20... -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:41:01 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 1982 240D A/C questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original curt quoted his barber as saying, You PAID somebody for a car with a quarter million miles and you drive it over twenty thousand miles a year And *that's* why W123's go for $500-$3000 these days. If everyone knew they could buy a Mercedes for 1/3 the cost of a 5 year old 100k mile, clapped out Honda, people would scramble to buy these cars - and drive the price up. So you keeps your mouth shut and we keep buying nice, 25 year old 300D turbos for $1000 and driving them for the next 10+ years. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 17 15:00:36 2006 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2UaI-00019m-Qh for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:00:36 + Received: (qmail 61568 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2006 15:00:26 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:00:26 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jim C needs to give it serious inquisition X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:00:36 - Wow, thats pretty neat. If it were out here I'd be surely considering it. Needs spheres (maybe just a line but probably spheres) and a new axle and some TLC but it'd be a $3k car after that based on my rough survey of wagon prices... It'd be really cool put put a 4spd in... I know a guy who has one, he says its more driveable with the 4spd than it was with the auto. I loved my wagon but it was a basket case. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:01:01 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Jim C needs to give it serious inquisition To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/182273544.html bet you can' hear this one either blah blah blah hands over ears -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz - See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 17 15:05:17 2006 Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net ([68.230.241.35]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2Uer-0001Wm-PJ for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:05:17 + Received: from familycomp ([68.106.48.86]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:05:10 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:05:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft
[MBZ] Rusty...Meyle?
Rusty What's this Meyle? AZ Auto Haus sells a drivers door weatherstrip made by these cats. Is it crap? It's quite a bit less expensive than the one I'm going to buy from you. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 156K '87 Acura Legend 177K '01 VW Beetle TDI 67K STILL waiting '72 350SL 78K From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 17 16:25:21 2006 Received: from host337.ipowerweb.com ([72.22.69.22]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2VuK-lA-QF for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:25:20 + Received: (qmail 76500 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2006 16:17:46 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (206.109.43.202) by host337.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2006 16:17:46 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:23:18 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:25:21 - I guess being tight and rusted in there is better than being loose in there -- my son was driving the TD when the BJ ball snapped out of the socket, leading to considerable consternation and subsequent repairs. It was somewhere down on my todo list too, along with rubber bits on the control arms, but it asserted itself to the top. --R Jim Cathey wrote: Ugh. I slid back the boot over the ball joint and it was absolutely _filled_ with rust. I blew it out with air and then sprayed in PB penetrant. I then worked the joint a bunch of times, then sluiced it out with PB. I repeated a time or two and then blew it out with air again. Then I used a grease gun with a needlenose point (the same thing you do door hinges with) to fill the joint with grease, and put the boot back. (That isn't all that easy due to the retaining spring.) There was a small tear in the boot, so I'm going to clean and Shoe Goo it, though that's probably pointless. Maybe after breakfast. Yes, this joint should be replaced, but it isn't yet loose, and I think the cleaning and lubrication will give it a new lease on life, for at least the initial shakeout of the car. It will remain on the to-do list. I just don't much care for heavy wrenching, such as a ball joint replacement requires, nor do I have the special tools required. I wield a mean soldering iron, but hand me heavy tools and watch me hurt myself. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty...Meyle?
Meyle is good stuff. How much are they? I see it. I'll beat them. I'll do $37.00. I will beat AZ on ANYTHING they sell. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rusty...Meyle? Rusty What's this Meyle? AZ Auto Haus sells a drivers door weatherstrip made by these cats. Is it crap? It's quite a bit less expensive than the one I'm going to buy from you. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 156K '87 Acura Legend 177K '01 VW Beetle TDI 67K STILL waiting '72 350SL 78K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty...Meyle?
$37.99... - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty...Meyle? Meyle is good stuff. How much are they? I see it. I'll beat them. I'll do $37.00. I will beat AZ on ANYTHING they sell. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 12:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rusty...Meyle? Rusty What's this Meyle? AZ Auto Haus sells a drivers door weatherstrip made by these cats. Is it crap? It's quite a bit less expensive than the one I'm going to buy from you. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 156K '87 Acura Legend 177K '01 VW Beetle TDI 67K STILL waiting '72 350SL 78K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Vacuum Diagram
Larry- Thank you, I found a diagram there. John Ingram On Jul 17, 2006, at 9:30 AM, LarryT wrote: The vac diagrams are available here - http://www.peterschmid.com/ Hope this helps - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: John Ingram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: New MBZ List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] 240D Vacuum Diagram Hello All- I would like to find a Vacuum System Diagram for my 83 240D 4- speed. I notice that the vacuum line connections are numbered and I have no way of knowing if they are connected properly. I am having some engine shut off problems. I recently switched engines but the problem had started with the previous engine. If anyone has a diagram or can tell me where to find one please let me know. Thank you, John Ingram 83 240D Maryland ___
[MBZ] Rusty sale still on?
Is the Buy mb parts (Rusty) sale still on? It was on all the tune-up type parts (and DIY maintenance items). If it is, I need to place an order. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 128K
Re: [MBZ] Rusty sale still on?
[HJK]Hey I'm gonna hijack a bit and ask if Rusty has access to MB factory accessories. In particular, I'm interested in 124 chassis (4) rubber floormats and (4) mudflaps [/HJK] On 7/17/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the Buy mb parts (Rusty) sale still on? It was on all the tune-up type parts (and DIY maintenance items). If it is, I need to place an order. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Delay Downshift Klunk
Bob Rentfro wrote: SoI get off the freeway yesterday after driving home from the old nuke plant.I drop off my carpool charge and then get back on Indianschool Road, where the speed linit is 35mph. I drive about 2 miles at 38mph or so and approach a light. I slow down normally and then, a full two seconds after the car has stopped, the transmission klunks down into first. Odd. When the light changed, I was off normally and all subsequent shifting was fine. Just a random event or a precursor to heartache? Your '77 300D should NEVER drop into 1st except when the kickdown switch is activated or the shifter dropped into 2nd! That's according to The Automatic Transmissions Maintenance Diagnostics manual MB 056 89 (3-89). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
Re: [MBZ] 201 front suspension help
Test drive time! It started right up, and there was no sign of the former squirrely handling. Seemed decent, and I even worked up some speed on some corners. I don't know what they're supposed to handle like, I'm told they handle particularly well, but I found nothing wrong with it. I had to fiddle with the hazard switch again to get the signals working, but there's nothing new about _that_. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Toy cars
There may be one, but none are listed on eBay other than the Krankwagen, of which there must be hundreds On Monday, July 17, 2006, at 04:23 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: redghost wrote: A person can really tell which models were popular to drive by the number of examples available in the toy car listing on eBay. Nobody likes the humble 114/115. At least to make one of those chinese models. Didn't Matchbox have a 114 when they were current? I was too busy buying cars like the Iso Griffo at the time to care about MBZ sedans, so none in my collection. They cost me $1 each, which was a lot of money in the early 70's for an elementary student. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] show and shine winner
really missing a WHOLE bunch that the little cruddy phone could not capture that a real camera would have shown On Monday, July 17, 2006, at 05:28 AM, OK Don wrote: It does look like a realy nice job! I don't have a cell phone camera, can't decide whether I'm missing something or not -- On 7/17/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am so so sorry I forgot the chairs, the water, the last minute cleaning things, and of course, the camera Yes, it is a 114 Krankwagen, and it was too cool for words. He had placed the star in the large C pillar on both sides. Great paint and mostly stock on the outside. He rebuilt the inside to have a bed space, fold down rear seatback and removable rear seat. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure - Problem found
After many weeks and a few red herrings, we finally tracked down the oil pressure issue plaguing my '95 E300D. Checking through MB's tech bulletins, I thought I had nailed it. On the 606 motors (and probably others) the camshafts are hollow and oil runs down them. There is a freeze plug at either end of the camshaft. According to MB, these freeze plugs can fail and become dislodged. When this happens, all the oil gets pumped up into the valve cover and the low oil light comes on, followed by loss of oil pressure. Since this sounded like my symptoms, we tore down the top of the motor and pulled the valve cover (a time-intensive job on a 606). Sadly, when the camshafts where checked, it was confirmed that all freeze plugs were in place and not leaking. The next step was to check the pan. Instead of dropping the pan, we removed the oil cooler from the side of the pan (which required draining the oil and the coolant, since it is an oil to water heat exchanger). Once removed, the issue quickly became obvious. The screw plug that retains the oil pressure relief valve to the oil pump had backed out to the point where only one or two threads kept it from dropping into the pan. This effectively removed any preload on the oil pressure relief valve spring and put it into bypass mode. Since neither the oil pump nor the oil pressure relief valve had ever been replaced or removed on this vehicle, I am at a loss as to how it would have backed out. It was re-torqued to 50 Nm, the vehicle was reassembled, and we manually primed the lubrication system through the pressure sender fitting to make sure all bearings had oil. The engine was restarted and oil pressure immediately returned. Now, I realize that my particular vehicle tends to exhibit problems that by themselves are unusual and rare and in combination almost inconceivably unlikely, but if this happened to me it could happen to someone else. If you happen to have the oil pan off your 606 motor (other 60x might be similar), you might want to re-torque the oil pressure relief valve screw plug while you're in there. If you happen to loose oil pressure, this might be something you want to check. 18-5031HA in the service manual covers the installation and removal of the oil pressure relief valve. Regards, J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006
Re: [MBZ] OM60X low-oil circuit board
Paging Mr Cathey. Mr Cathey, please come to the office for urgent consultation!!! I just de-soldered the ill-tempered oil circuit board from my '87 300TD. Do you still require one of these for your ongoing commitments to science and the public interest? If so, please send your mailing instructions, (SSN and bank account info to my Nigerian friend) asap! On 6/25/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I've been poking around in the 190D's instrument cluster.) Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (217k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure - Problem found
Good catch J.B. and congrats. Thanks for sharing Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sudden loss of oil pressure - Problem found After many weeks and a few red herrings, we finally tracked down the oil pressure issue plaguing my '95 E300D. Checking through MB's tech bulletins, I thought I had nailed it. On the 606 motors (and probably others) the camshafts are hollow and oil runs down them. There is a freeze plug at either end of the camshaft. According to MB, these freeze plugs can fail and become dislodged. When this happens, all the oil gets pumped up into the valve cover and the low oil light comes on, followed by loss of oil pressure. Since this sounded like my symptoms, we tore down the top of the motor and pulled the valve cover (a time-intensive job on a 606). Sadly, when the camshafts where checked, it was confirmed that all freeze plugs were in place and not leaking. The next step was to check the pan. Instead of dropping the pan, we removed the oil cooler from the side of the pan (which required draining the oil and the coolant, since it is an oil to water heat exchanger). Once removed, the issue quickly became obvious. The screw plug that retains the oil pressure relief valve to the oil pump had backed out to the point where only one or two threads kept it from dropping into the pan. This effectively removed any preload on the oil pressure relief valve spring and put it into bypass mode. Since neither the oil pump nor the oil pressure relief valve had ever been replaced or removed on this vehicle, I am at a loss as to how it would have backed out. It was re-torqued to 50 Nm, the vehicle was reassembled, and we manually primed the lubrication system through the pressure sender fitting to make sure all bearings had oil. The engine was restarted and oil pressure immediately returned. Now, I realize that my particular vehicle tends to exhibit problems that by themselves are unusual and rare and in combination almost inconceivably unlikely, but if this happened to me it could happen to someone else. If you happen to have the oil pan off your 606 motor (other 60x might be similar), you might want to re-torque the oil pressure relief valve screw plug while you're in there. If you happen to loose oil pressure, this might be something you want to check. 18-5031HA in the service manual covers the installation and removal of the oil pressure relief valve. Regards, J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delay Downshift Klunk
Herr Doktor schreib: Your '77 300D should NEVER drop into 1st except when the kickdown switch is activated or the shifter dropped into 2nd! That's according to The Automatic Transmissions Maintenance Diagnostics manual MB 056 89 (3-89). A...Thanks for checking the manual, Herr Doktor. Actually, what it felt like was someone slightly nudged me in the rear at the light. The car pulled away normally in the correct gear. Everything has been normal today. Strange. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K '01 VW Beetle TDI 67K waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] the same old refrain...
What always gave me pause is the oil control in older engines is rarely perfect, and 0-weight oil seems like it would leak out much easier. If it pours like water, is it really going to stay in the engine? The Marshall answer would be to fix the leaks, of course. :) This is what I wonder about, however I don't think the '0' part is the problem. For me leaks are usually a problem when a motor is hot. I am doing a fairly large service on my HD Electra Glide and am going to attempt M1 oil throughout. In the past M1 oils have proved difficult to keep inside of air cooled motor cycles, and in my experience Milwaukee Iron in high on the problem list. If it works out I will do a top end on my Moto Guzzi and try it there. (again) George Larribeau Dallas, Texas 1985 300SD 190K 1987 HD FLHTC 86K 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra Ugly,but runs) 1993 BMW 323i 115K (Wife's Car) 1967 BMW R50/2 (Wife's MC, currently in a Basket)
[MBZ] need this v12?
1996 Mercedes Benz S 600, V12, auto, loaded (US Marshal seizure) http://www.murphyauctions.net/kenmore06jul.html -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Losts of White smoke
burned out glow plug or two -- fuel doesn't burn until the engine warms up a bit. Other causes are blow head gasket (coolant in the combustion chambers) and a failed vacuum modulator on the tranny, allowing transmission fluid to go down the intake. The latter smells terrible, easy to check. Peter
[MBZ] So, I get my first Star in a couple years and
On page 30, in discussing the recent board meeting in Chicago. They are finally going to publish the magazine themselves. Let me retype the appropriate paragraph: ³President O¹Sullivan reported on progress on THE STAR contract. Eight viable responses to MBCA¹s request for proposals were received; three likely candidates were selected by THE STAR committee and interviewed. A final successful candidate was chosen to edit and publish THE STAR when the current contract expires. He indicated that Toad Hall Motorbooks had sent a letter to board members stating it would not respond to the request for proposals the club had issued. [Toad Hall Motorbooks, my business, had proposed to MBCA that instead of using the method described in the request for proposals, whereby the club would effectively function as publisher the existing contract be renegotiated and extended. That proposal was declined. Ed.] The board authorized the Star Committee to negotiate an agreement with the successful candidate.² Good things come to those who wait. -- +-- GG 1997 SL500 (104k) http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm http://homepage.mac.com/deneals +--
