Re: [MBZ] W123 CV joint boot repair
For peace of mind go with a good used one or a new one from Rusty. Neal Fmiser wrote: I know about split boots. I've looked at the manual and an axle shaft and know that I would rather not dis-assemble a joint to put new boots on. So that brings me to this product. http://www.astoria2000.com/main.html It seems to be a boot that is so flexible that it can be streached to fit over an assembled CV joint! Any of you folk familiar with it? -- Philip, always looking for an easy way ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 CV joint boot repair
Fmiser wrote: Any of you folk familiar with it? I know a guy who has one, and I sure as hell wouldn't trust it. The boots are wafer thin compared to the OE boots. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 272+kmi 1980 300TD 183+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi 1972 220 278+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Yet another oil thread
I don't see Amsoil being any kind of cheaper than Mobil 1. I can get Mobil 1 15w50 for less than $6 ($5.50 I think) a quart at Autozone, less at Wal-Mart but I hates Wal-Mart. Amsoil by comparison (this is all by the quart, bulk is less but the same is true with 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart). 5w40 European : $7.30qt, $7.25qt/12qt, $5.65qt/30gal 15w40 Heavy duty : $6.55qt, $6.45qt/12qt, $6.19qt/gal, $6.09qt/4gal, $5.05qt/30gal 10w40 High performance : $7.00qt 20w50 High performance : $7.75 WCF 10w40 : $8.10 Their website got slow when I went back to do the larger sizes, you get the idea though. The online application guide lists the heavy duty 15w40 for my 190D, I'll give them credit for listing the cheapest one first, thats nice. It also lists synthetic blend that I won't even consider because I like not changing the oil very often then Series 3000 5w30,($7.05) I've been spoiled by this list into not considering anything xw30. Finally the 5w40 European. For comparison I checked an '85 300CD and it lists the same. Anyway, I don't see any big savings there although thats all at individual purchaser prices. Can any of the dealers give us an idea what they actually pay? How much is shipping? -Curt Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:16:38 -0400 From: Mike Canfield Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBUSA changes dealer oil recommendations To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original How about Amsoil? A friend of mine just got a dealership through them and the prices beat the heck out of Mobil 1. I hear ALLOT of people around here bragging about how good Amsoil is but I have yet to try it myself. Mike - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 01 23:52:11 2006 Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.206]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G841z-0006Sh-5A for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:52:11 + Received: from voyager.net (d87.as2.sfld1.mi.core.com [209.153.159.216]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k71Nq1fX020745 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:51:56 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 CV joint boot repair X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:52:11 - Fmiser wrote: I know about split boots. I've looked at the manual and an axle shaft and know that I would rather not dis-assemble a joint to put new boots on. I saw a thread on a forum about this, a forum member had purchased a kit, including a power stretcher to open up the boots so the small axle hole would fit over the joint. You've got to get the outside of the joint perfectly clean before you can safely slip the boot over it. I believe the stretcher tool cost him $200-300. I'm 90% sure I read the above on Mercedesshop last summer or fall. He posted pictures of the whole procedure.
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
It is strange because that sort of thing is good advertising for MB, I suppose they where hoping that the 124 would fall apart at the first pothole and they would stand around it and snigger at the supposed build quality of the star brand. However I see that sort of thing as pointless, if they had put the 124 against comparable cars from other car makers I would have said yeah I can see the point but to take just one car and try and kill it does not make sense. Now the question is which cars would be comprable to the 124 T? Italian would be Alfa, French Peugot or Citron, Swedish Volvo, British Jaguar, perhaps someone could help me out with an American car, I know that in Oz nothing was made that could be compared with a 124. However even buying three different second hand cars would not be fair because of the way they have been treated in the past. That 124 might have had 's spend on it recently to refurbish it whereas another car might have had 0 $'s spend on it. Anyway I don't bother watching that show because they play around with stuff I can't afford and all they are doing is making me feel inadequate because I don't drive a super car and don't have a racing car to play with on the weekends. Then again I have a UNIMOG which is way cooler than any Ferrari will ever be, unless Ferrari decides to make a high performance 4x4 truck with a towing capacity of 11 tonnes (not that you would pull 11 tonnes down the road with a 5 tonne vehicle). - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people? Ed Booher wrote: I always thought it was you still harbored a hatred of Germans, and hence, enjoy destroying Mercedes. Fifth Gear has destroyed Mercedes in several different segments. But having too much time on your hands is a good explanation too. It's not like it's just a British thing. Haven't you ever been to a demolition derby? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 25/07/2006
Re: [MBZ] ?
You just wait, one day that will be part of the curriculm of every high school mechanical class. Way cheaper to have a DVD player and TV than a teacher. Seriously don't knock it, the more people that know how to maintain a MB Diesel properly equals more well looked after cars for you lot to buy. Anyway before too long there will be copied versions being flogged off and the Dieseldude will be spending all his money chasing up counterfitters. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? There's one born every minute. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? Im in the wrong business if people are actually stupid enough to buy that Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:56:56 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-diesel-engine-component-identification-video_W0QQitemZ190015332544QQihZ009QQcategoryZ33554QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I guess it's for cluess newbies who don't know about okiebenz.com. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 25/07/2006
[MBZ] on babying my 240D
Daughter has her '89 Pontiac Sunbird up for sale ( http://don.homelinux.net/megan/kurtie/index.html). I drove it to work today so I could park it in a high traffic area with the For Sale sign there for everyone to see. I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. What are the implications of driving a diesel only on weekends (or maybe once every few weekends for 100 mile road trips), and not at all during the winter? If I put it into winter storage, what should I do other than to disconnect the battery and throw a cover over it? It rips my heart out each spring to see how much new rust has formed over the winter. I'd like to delay the inevitable for as long as possible. Thoughts? D. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] Yet another oil thread
Put it this wayMy friend quoted me $5.00 per quart across the board. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another oil thread I don't see Amsoil being any kind of cheaper than Mobil 1. I can get Mobil 1 15w50 for less than $6 ($5.50 I think) a quart at Autozone, less at Wal-Mart but I hates Wal-Mart. Amsoil by comparison (this is all by the quart, bulk is less but the same is true with 5 quart jugs at Wal-Mart). 5w40 European : $7.30qt, $7.25qt/12qt, $5.65qt/30gal 15w40 Heavy duty : $6.55qt, $6.45qt/12qt, $6.19qt/gal, $6.09qt/4gal, $5.05qt/30gal 10w40 High performance : $7.00qt 20w50 High performance : $7.75 WCF 10w40 : $8.10 Their website got slow when I went back to do the larger sizes, you get the idea though. The online application guide lists the heavy duty 15w40 for my 190D, I'll give them credit for listing the cheapest one first, thats nice. It also lists synthetic blend that I won't even consider because I like not changing the oil very often then Series 3000 5w30,($7.05) I've been spoiled by this list into not considering anything xw30. Finally the 5w40 European. For comparison I checked an '85 300CD and it lists the same. Anyway, I don't see any big savings there although thats all at individual purchaser prices. Can any of the dealers give us an idea what they actually pay? How much is shipping? -Curt Message: 4 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:16:38 -0400 From: Mike Canfield Subject: Re: [MBZ] MBUSA changes dealer oil recommendations To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original How about Amsoil? A friend of mine just got a dealership through them and the prices beat the heck out of Mobil 1. I hear ALLOT of people around here bragging about how good Amsoil is but I have yet to try it myself. Mike - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil
I will comment after I read what Mercedes says from the fatherland! I have NOT found MBUSA to be a particularly reliable source of information about things Mercedes and verbal reports from dealer employees to often be wrong and sometimes downright dangerous!. Well, I can hardly wait! My info comes from a long time friend who is parts and service director for Barrier Mercedes in Bellevue Washington. He is somewhat more than a dealer employee. RLE
[MBZ] She is gone
Well, I had an ad posted on CL for the old 300CD, and I got a bite. The guy came out today, I showed him all of its quirks, and he bought it. I got my $700 out of it (probably could have gotten a bit more). I'm not sure WHEN or IF I'll get another MB diesel project, but I'm sure one will pop up that will both fit into the budget and peak my interest. So for now, once again, I'm without a diesel on which to tinker. Don't worry, I'm not goin' anywhere! Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela on her way to her new house
[MBZ] B1-B gear up landing
Subject: FW: B1-B Gear up recovery Back in May we had reports and pics of a B-1B making a gear-up landing at Diego Garcia. Here are the pictures of the recovery of this aircraft, getting her back up on her wheels. Go to: http://www.ravenware.com/factand/nofic/b1pics/gurec/index.html
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: Daughter has her '89 Pontiac Sunbird up for sale ( http://don.homelinux.net/megan/kurtie/index.html). I drove it to work today so I could park it in a high traffic area with the For Sale sign there for everyone to see. I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. What are the implications of driving a diesel only on weekends (or maybe once every few weekends for 100 mile road trips), and not at all during the winter? If I put it into winter storage, what should I do other than to disconnect the battery and throw a cover over it? It rips my heart out each spring to see how much new rust has formed over the winter. I'd like to delay the inevitable for as long as possible. Thoughts? D. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
yes, thats my opinion. OK Don wrote: Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
What are the implications of driving a diesel only on weekends (or maybe once every few weekends for 100 mile road trips), and not at all during the winter? If I put it into winter storage, what should I do other than to disconnect the battery and throw a cover over it? It won't hurt it, your proposed regimen will be good. Do something about mice, though. Box of D-CON in the footwell? -- Jim
[MBZ] easy fix?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-Mercedes-320-Repairable-Rebuilder-Salvage-100k_W0QQitemZ170014751823QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Although salt never is an issue here, I had some of those same thoughts when I drove the TDI Beetle some this summer; Thinking how nice dependable AC was...diggin' the 46mpg back and forth to the old nuke plant...not being the last guy to leave a traffic light. It would have been easy to justify driving the TDI given my daily commute and even though it was a neat little diesel, it just doesn't have the character the 300D does. It isn't as fun to drive as the 300D is. And, I doubt it is as safe as the 300D is. Now that the TDI is in the history books, my decision on what to drive is easy. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
OK, so what happened to the bug? Bob Rentfro wrote: Although salt never is an issue here, I had some of those same thoughts when I drove the TDI Beetle some this summer; Thinking how nice dependable AC was...diggin' the 46mpg back and forth to the old nuke plant...not being the last guy to leave a traffic light. It would have been easy to justify driving the TDI given my daily commute and even though it was a neat little diesel, it just doesn't have the character the 300D does. It isn't as fun to drive as the 300D is. And, I doubt it is as safe as the 300D is. Now that the TDI is in the history books, my decision on what to drive is easy. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
like a TURBO! On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:14:46 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (236 kmi) '82 300CD (160 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR work
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Lease was up and I tried to get Chase to get the purchase paperwork together starting in May. They screwed up the paperwork five times. Then, two weeks ago as I was waiting again on paperwork to be overnighted to me, Chase called me and said my account was in collections and they wondered where the car was because they came by to repo it but, thank God, it was in the garage. I tripped off and told them to stuff their paperwork and I was taking the car back instantly to the dealer. I don't need to put up with their crap...I can get a car where ever I want to. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D OK, so what happened to the bug? Bob Rentfro wrote: Although salt never is an issue here, I had some of those same thoughts when I drove the TDI Beetle some this summer; Thinking how nice dependable AC was...diggin' the 46mpg back and forth to the old nuke plant...not being the last guy to leave a traffic light. It would have been easy to justify driving the TDI given my daily commute and even though it was a neat little diesel, it just doesn't have the character the 300D does. It isn't as fun to drive as the 300D is. And, I doubt it is as safe as the 300D is. Now that the TDI is in the history books, my decision on what to drive is easy. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eliminating envy
Anyway I don't bother watching that show because they play around with stuff I can't afford and all they are doing is making me feel inadequate because I don't drive a super car and don't have a racing car to play with on the weekends. I just don't understand all the weeping about using up the last 10% of that 124 wagon. And I wasn't the least but bothered about the destruction of that clapped out 911 Carrera 3.0 either because it was clearly on it's last legs. And I've been a Porsche driver for decades. The main reason I don't pore over all the Ferrari road tests is that it's just another expensive and irrelevant car. Like a Pagani Zonda, for God's sake. And I am not in a deep depression just because I can't have a TBM850 either. But I still would like to walk around one and touch it. Much more useful than an Enzo, too. RLE
Re: [MBZ] W123 CV joint boot repair
In April Marshall submitted this: - Dennis Perkins wrote: This site has the gun for $234.75. http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/ARA-FB5000PK.html You will also need four boots. In the article the boots were the same no each end. It showed the FB3000 boot. They are on sale at this site for $10.80 each. http://thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/MAN238.html This page shows how the automotive boot can be shortened to fit many applications: http://www.astoria2000.com/fb3000info.html The last thing you need is the locking ring pliers.Here it is: http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/flxb.html As I may have mentioned before there is a site that shows a manual method of installation without the gun. it's at: http://www.astoria2000.com/instpage.html So at the end for about $400 you can do all four boots. I'm thinking you have to weigh this against the other options: New axles: $? Anyone know what that costs please reply. Rebuilt axles: $? Anyone know what that costs please reply. The other thing to remember is that rear boots tend to wear much longer than front wheel drive boots that must flex with the front wheels turning. May Marshall would like to jump in here and give some experienced advise. I have had to replace only 2-3 axle halves/boots in the 42 years I've been driving Mercedes. That's 22 different cars (18 used - usually with 100-200kmi on them when I bought them) and I've driven them more than an additional million miles. Only one of those failures was for a failed boot. Unlike most rice rockets where the boots seem to average 100kmi, the boots on my cars have been fine for the life of the cars and compiling the data I've collected, many more cars go to the recycler with the original boots/axles than with replacement boots/axles. I would be VERY cautions about these universal boots. I suspect (GUESS) they are much more like the boots on US and Japanese cars and VERY unlike the boots on Mercedes (that last the life of the car unless damaged by substantial outside forces). Marshall -- Mercedesshop.com has this posting about a shop in Denver: ..If your own axle boots are intact and not failed, you can take them out and send them to these fellows who will regrease them and put on new boots for $100. per axle. Not cheap, but, at least you know what you have. http://www.cvjreman.com/ -- - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fmiser wrote: I know about split boots. I've looked at the manual and an axle shaft and know that I would rather not dis-assemble a joint to put new boots on. I saw a thread on a forum about this, a forum member had purchased a kit, including a power stretcher to open up the boots so the small axle hole would fit over the joint. You've got to get the outside of the joint perfectly clean before you can safely slip the boot over it. I believe the stretcher tool cost him $200-300. I'm 90% sure I read the above on Mercedesshop last summer or fall. He posted pictures of the whole procedure.
Re: [MBZ] Alternate winter car
Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. That's precisely what you should do for several reasons. When you have a car that would be difficult to replace at a price you want to pay with a history that is unknown, then it's a good idea not to expose it to unnecessary hazard when there is an alternative. For example, when making your five minute commute in snow and some yokel gets on your side of the road and smacks you, you will wish you had walked to work. Conversely, if that happened to the Pontiac, you either fix it or throw it away and find another. And the 240D will seem so much nicer when you do drive it plus not parking it outside all day in the blazing heat or encased in ice will make it last bit longer. The down side is, one more car to license and insure. RLE
Re: [MBZ] easy fix?
It's just a fleshwound...just a scratch, really. It's not dead yet. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-Mercedes-320-Repairable-Rebuilder-Salvage-100k_W0QQitemZ170014751823QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k) '84 300D (214k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
I seem to remember that the New Beetle crash-tested quite well...surprisingly so. I'd give the nod to the VW in this instance. A 123 has a quaint and substantial feel and charm to it, but I find them hard to spend any time in these days. The ponderous handling and lousy fuel mileage just don't make them suitable to daily driving in the 21st century. YMMV Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (217k) '84 300D (215k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Brits; what's wrong with these people?
Hendrik Riessen wrote: It is strange because that sort of thing is good advertising for MB, I suppose they where hoping that the 124 would fall apart at the first pothole and they would stand around it and snigger at the supposed build quality of the star brand. However I see that sort of thing as pointless, if they had put the 124 against comparable cars from other car makers I would have said yeah I can see the point but to take just one car and try and kill it does not make sense. I don't think it was meant to prove anything, or test anything. I think you're missing the point. It was supposed to be amusing. I enjoyed it, but I recognize not everyone shares my sense of humor. (I also think it's interesting to see just how much punishment things will take, and how they break when they're abused. In this case I was pretty impressed.) You also have to understand that, to a lot of people, Mercedes cars are still thought of as the province of doctors, lawyers, and CEOs. Relatively few people could afford one when they were new. Many a white collar criminal has been filmed getting into one by news cameras. There's an element of schadenfreude in seeing one abused.
Re: [MBZ] B1-B gear up landing
Thanks, great pictures, big bucks there. My sister sent pictures of the USS Cole being loaded on that huge ship carrier, it looks like a toy on the deck of that monster. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] B1-B gear up landing Subject: FW: B1-B Gear up recovery Back in May we had reports and pics of a B-1B making a gear-up landing at Diego Garcia. Here are the pictures of the recovery of this aircraft, getting her back up on her wheels. Go to: http://www.ravenware.com/factand/nofic/b1pics/gurec/index.html
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Zeitgeist wrote: I seem to remember that the New Beetle crash-tested quite well...surprisingly so. Five star frontal rating, as I recall. It's not so surprising when you look at how deep the dashboard is. The front seats are practically in the middle of the car.
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
David noticed: It's not so surprising when you look at how deep the dashboard is. It's ironic considering that in Bugs back in the day you could stick out a finger and touch the windshield while gripping the steering wheel in the 12 o'clock position. These days you can either recarpet your whole home or get a dash mat for your Bug...requires about the same amount of carpet. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Bob Rentfro wrote: David noticed: It's not so surprising when you look at how deep the dashboard is. It's ironic considering that in Bugs back in the day you could stick out a finger and touch the windshield while gripping the steering wheel in the 12 o'clock position. Yeah, and in a Bus you could touch the back of the headlight bucket with your toe. These days you can either recarpet your whole home or get a dash mat for your Bug...requires about the same amount of carpet. I didn't like it when I sat in one. I felt like I was driving from the back seat. The A-pillars seemed to really intrude on my vision.
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
David typed: The A-pillars seemed to really intrude on my vision. It did take some getting used to. There were several time cars were obscured perfectly by the pillar. Blind spot on the right side was larger than normal as well, I thought. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] W123 CV joint boot repair
boot. Unlike most rice rockets where the boots seem to average 100kmi, the boots on my cars have been fine for the life of the cars and compiling the data I've collected, many more cars go to the recycler with the original boots/axles than with replacement boots/axles. It's the difference between front wheel drive and not, where the boots also have to accommodate steering. I'm not surprised they don't last that long. There aren't so many cars that have CV joints that _don't_ steer. Where they are, I'd expect them to tend to last as long as MB's joints. On another, completely off-, topic, I'm using our new wireless antenna arrangement, and it's working _much_ better. A 1W amplifier on a 24dB wire basket antenna and we're getting in excess of 1 Mb/s right now, with few errors. Night and day. Before, I had to dial in during daylight hours, it was so bad that it was actually faster to put up with 20 kb/s versus the up to 90% packet loss over wireless. Cost was one dinner, and a few beers. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 201 status
The early ('84) 190Ds used a mount similar to the solid mounts used for
123s.
Yeah, that's what they look like.
They don't fail gradually. It's a binary function. When the height
drops
below 1/2 the isolation has become unsatisfactory. If you use a mount
from a different engine/transmission combination, the isolation will
NOT
be satisfactory whether the mount is good or bad. Quite unlike solid
mounts used in older designs.
That's too bad. I still may try it, I doubt it could be worse than
it is right now. And if it's better, cool.
-- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 1981 300CD keeps going and going and going and...
So where is this oil separator? I want to check it out and see what's goin' on with it. Do the NA cars have the baffle inside the valve cover too? Would have thought so. The separator should be inside the air cleaner housing, in the center. The giveaway is if there's an oil drain tube out the bottom or not. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Brew was Re: HF A/C gauges
I did some rootbeer and gingerbeer for the kids. Really make a mean Ginger. I use yeast for carbonation. As long as you take the care that you would with standard beer in selecting ingredients and being sterile and clean, you should make a fine soda Clay -- Original message -- From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reminds me, wifey wants me to brew up a batch for a work event in 3 weeks, guess I better go get the ingredients. I was gonna start brewing my own beer several years ago. I got sidetracked and now I don't drink alcohol. Does anyone have experience brewing root beer or any other carbonated non-alcoholic beverages? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Care packages
Just got a dead Klima from Alex Chamberlain to look at. Alex, I was just examining this for the list's general FYI, right? (I didn't have an off-list address for you.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Brew was Re: HF A/C gauges
Rootbeer is easy to make and you can find quite a few kits on the net. I was selling rootbeer kits myself but it's really not my main product line I stopped. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Brew was Re: HF A/C gauges I did some rootbeer and gingerbeer for the kids. Really make a mean Ginger. I use yeast for carbonation. As long as you take the care that you would with standard beer in selecting ingredients and being sterile and clean, you should make a fine soda Clay -- Original message -- From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reminds me, wifey wants me to brew up a batch for a work event in 3 weeks, guess I better go get the ingredients. I was gonna start brewing my own beer several years ago. I got sidetracked and now I don't drink alcohol. Does anyone have experience brewing root beer or any other carbonated non-alcoholic beverages? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 CV joint boot repair
rumor has it that Marshall wrote: Fmiser wrote: So that brings me to this product. http://www.astoria2000.com/main.html It seems to be a boot that is so flexible that it can be streached to fit over an assembled CV joint! I have received NO reports on these boots. Remember, Mercedes boots are designed to last the life of the car (20+ years, 200-400kmi)! No way these super flex boots will even come close. Best bet is still good used axle halves. Marshall Yeah, the originals are good. But it about 100 miles to a salvage yard that will touch a W123 - and then only sometimes will have one. So I keep my own parts cars. But every year that goes by the originals are getting older and accumulating more miles. So at some point, I'll have to look at another alternative -- Philip, with at least 3 spare axle shafts in the garage.
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
rumor has it that Kaleb wrote: yes, thats my opinion. OK Don wrote: Sick - absolutely sick. You've already done the damage to the 240D if you're seeing more rust each year. Continue to use it for the winter beater, and get your self a clean one to baby. On 8/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant believe what you just said. LT Don wrote: on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. That's easy for you OK folks to say - but road salt is a different issue once you get 600 miles further north. But I still can't believe LT Don would come out and post that on this list! -- Philip, drive a beater
Re: [MBZ] Care packages
On 8/1/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got a dead Klima from Alex Chamberlain to look at. Alex, I was just examining this for the list's general FYI, right? (I didn't have an off-list address for you.) Yup, I bought a new one from Rusty a long time ago. I thought everyone would benefit from looking over your shoulder as you dissected a failed one, hence the donation. Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting
Not sure he would have been able to get the part from anybody but those idiots at MB, who would have not wanted to let him have them since they are not an american part -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is a lot easier to order them from Rusty. At 11:52 AM 8/1/2006, you wrote: Been there dealing with the idiot at the parts counter. Chris Goodwin, who does Frybrid worked on the car and he was able to get the parts for the IP. Even gave me the part numbers so that I could order them at the Stealership. Took four visits with the parts idiots to get the final order placed. Much searching in the parts computer for TWO different RUBBER o-rings. After much screwing around... I get the o-ring that is the same part as for om615, and a copper thing... same as for 615... NOT the rubber JAPANESE 124 part. -- Original message -- From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when the return hoses leack, you can get about a quart of fuel filling the injecter holes. Had to replace hose today. What a mess. BioD eats the foam gasket on the useless black plastic doohickey. Yeah thats a ROYAL PITA. you need about 1/4 box of the scott rags in a box disposable shop towels to empty them. BTW I found that the return hose from a om61x will work in a pinch on the 606. A Real PITA is when the IP seals leak. The stealserships want to replace the whole IP. -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1981 300CD keeps going and going and going and...
I had the air cleaner housing off the car during the valve adjustment to clean it up. I didn't see an oil drain tube. I hope that there's a chance that the new owner can keep her on the road for a long time. Kevin in Hillsboro, Benzless, but still breathing diesel exhaust
[MBZ] OT: cheap V12 coupe
As seen in the Lansing, MI State Journal this AM: 1988 XJS, V12, runs good, 69k, $2000 or best offer. 989-834-5313 I used to want one of these sooo bad, but can't stomach Lucas electrics and $0.30 per mile fuel costs, even in a toy car. Maybe if the V12 could be sold for $2k, it could make a nice place to drop in a 606 with twin sequential turbos. Anybody know how tall the engine bay is?
Re: [MBZ] eliminating envy
Me eitherLooks like they had a load of fun with it. Surely outdated there and way too costly to ship here to the States for Kaleb to part out. I've seen way more money and ALLOT nicer Mercedes destroyed in the making of action movies...Made for good entertainmentI believe that was thier goal. Hardly any resentment toward that car...All they did all through the show was brag up how well built they were! Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eliminating envy Anyway I don't bother watching that show because they play around with stuff I can't afford and all they are doing is making me feel inadequate because I don't drive a super car and don't have a racing car to play with on the weekends. I just don't understand all the weeping about using up the last 10% of that 124 wagon. And I wasn't the least but bothered about the destruction of that clapped out 911 Carrera 3.0 either because it was clearly on it's last legs. And I've been a Porsche driver for decades. The main reason I don't pore over all the Ferrari road tests is that it's just another expensive and irrelevant car. Like a Pagani Zonda, for God's sake. And I am not in a deep depression just because I can't have a TBM850 either. But I still would like to walk around one and touch it. Much more useful than an Enzo, too. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
My friends wife just hit a deer in her new Beetle. Held up VERY well. 30MPH= a dent in the front of the hood and a broken headlight adjuster. No other damage at all. We were all very surprised. Mike - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D Zeitgeist wrote: I seem to remember that the New Beetle crash-tested quite well...surprisingly so. Five star frontal rating, as I recall. It's not so surprising when you look at how deep the dashboard is. The front seats are practically in the middle of the car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] eliminating envy
Mike Canfield wrote: Me eitherLooks like they had a load of fun with it. Surely outdated there and way too costly to ship here to the States for Kaleb to part out. I've seen way more money and ALLOT nicer Mercedes destroyed in the making of action movies...Made for good entertainmentI believe that was thier goal. Hardly any resentment toward that car...All they did all through the show was brag up how well built they were! After all that talk about how tough mbz used to be, I wonder if DBAG should donate a new Eclass for a repeat performance. If it held up as well as the S124 did, the advertising value would be 100x the cost of the car. OTOH, maybe DBAG knows something about the current models that I don't. ;-)
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Mike Canfield wrote: My friends wife just hit a deer in her new Beetle. Held up VERY well. 30MPH= a dent in the front of the hood and a broken headlight adjuster. No other damage at all. I took a deer right between the headlights in a Plymouth Horizon at 70mph. Wrapped the radiator around the engine and the hood was up against the windscreen. I had to buy a used grill, radiator and hood hinges and a new distributor cap to repair it, and the hood is still slightly warped. Probably cost me $80 to repair the car. My dad took a deer out at 35mph in his old Dakota, had to replace the fog lights. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Engine quitting
Rusty ships them out all the time. ask him! I have not found anything that Rusty can't get. I have ordered several sets of o-rings and copper seals and delivery valve springs from Rusty. Last time i ordered a part from a Stealer was 1990, when i was living on the big island and the water pump on my 200D seized up. Dealer price was not too bad for that one. Anywhere else, and I'd have had to pay air freight and wait. At 02:09 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote: Not sure he would have been able to get the part from anybody but those idiots at MB, who would have not wanted to let him have them since they are not an american part -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is a lot easier to order them from Rusty. At 11:52 AM 8/1/2006, you wrote: Been there dealing with the idiot at the parts counter. Chris Goodwin, who does Frybrid worked on the car and he was able to get the parts for the IP. Even gave me the part numbers so that I could order them at the Stealership. Took four visits with the parts idiots to get the final order placed. Much searching in the parts computer for TWO different RUBBER o-rings. After much screwing around... I get the o-ring that is the same part as for om615, and a copper thing... same as for 615... NOT the rubber JAPANESE 124 part. -- Original message -- From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when the return hoses leack, you can get about a quart of fuel filling the injecter holes. Had to replace hose today. What a mess. BioD eats the foam gasket on the useless black plastic doohickey. Yeah thats a ROYAL PITA. you need about 1/4 box of the scott rags in a box disposable shop towels to empty them. BTW I found that the return hose from a om61x will work in a pinch on the 606. A Real PITA is when the IP seals leak. The stealserships want to replace the whole IP. -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
I don't think he could handle the G's. On 8/1/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: like a TURBO! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
I am buying an suv for the wife and would appreciate a carfax if anyone has an account and can help me out - the vin is 1GKET16S646166672 Thanks Dave Wakin
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 2004 GMC Truck Envoy XL EXT/SLE/SLT VIN 1GKET16S646166672 Body Style Utility 4 Door Country of Manufacture United States Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description 1GKET16S646166672 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 2 records for this 2004 GMC TRUCK ENVOY XL EXT/SLE/SLT. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 2004-01-30 westport, CT 21 title 2004-01-30 westport, CT registration event/renewal Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 2004 GMC Truck Envoy XL EXT/SLE/SLT No Consumer Guide® data available. Important Disclaimers While Consumer Guide® makes every effort to present complete and accurate information, a Consumer Guide® Vehicle History Report is not a guarantee of the quality of any used vehicle. There could be other problems with this vehicle that have not been reported to Consumer Guide® or Experian. Please read our full disclaimer. Dave Wakin wrote: I am buying an suv for the wife and would appreciate a carfax if anyone has an account and can help me out - the vin is 1GKET16S646166672 Thanks Dave Wakin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
It probably would take a toll on his hair and rip the earring out. OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think he could handle the G's. On 8/1/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: like a TURBO! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Dave, Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his GF's daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG even on the highway. They don't drive fast or hard either. Ridiculous. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 2004 GMC Truck Envoy XL EXT/SLE/SLT VIN 1GKET16S646166672 Body Style Utility 4 Door Country of Manufacture United States Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description 1GKET16S646166672 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 2 records for this 2004 GMC TRUCK ENVOY XL EXT/SLE/SLT. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 2004-01-30 westport, CT 21 title 2004-01-30 westport, CT registration event/renewal Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 2004 GMC Truck Envoy XL EXT/SLE/SLT No Consumer Guide® data available. Important Disclaimers While Consumer Guide® makes every effort to present complete and accurate information, a Consumer Guide® Vehicle History Report is not a guarantee of the quality of any used vehicle. There could be other problems with this vehicle that have not been reported to Consumer Guide® or Experian. Please read our full disclaimer. Dave Wakin wrote: I am buying an suv for the wife and would appreciate a carfax if anyone has an account and can help me out - the vin is 1GKET16S646166672 Thanks Dave Wakin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Uh, he'd look like me then too.. Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It probably would take a toll on his hair and rip the earring out. OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think he could handle the G's. On 8/1/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: like a TURBO! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (160kmi) '82 300D (74kmi needs block or engine)
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Mike Canfield wrote: Dave, Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his GF's daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG even on the highway. They don't drive fast or hard either. Ridiculous. Seems Typical. My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Both trucks with auto tranny and toneau covers, gently driven except when towing. He's lucky to get 12mpg hauling his pontoon boat.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Saw 28 in my 3/4 ton dodge pickup once. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Thanks Kaleb! I know we will probably not see 20 mpg as it states, but the 01 Yukon xl it is replacing doesn't see 18 like it states either. Dave W - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 2004 GMC Truck Envoy XL EXT/SLE/SLT VIN 1GKET16S646166672 Body Style Utility 4 Door Country of Manufacture United States Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description 1GKET16S646166672 Title Check No records found Problem Check No records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Your vehicle checks out! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 2 records for this 2004 GMC TRUCK ENVOY XL EXT/SLE/SLT. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 2004-01-30 westport, CT 21 title 2004-01-30 westport, CT registration event/renewal Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV. Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV. Highlights from our Editor's Review of the 2004 GMC Truck Envoy XL EXT/SLE/SLT No Consumer Guide® data available. Important Disclaimers While Consumer Guide® makes every effort to present complete and accurate information, a Consumer Guide® Vehicle History Report is not a guarantee of the quality of any used vehicle. There could be other problems with this vehicle that have not been reported to Consumer Guide® or Experian. Please read our full disclaimer. Dave Wakin wrote: I am buying an suv for the wife and would appreciate a carfax if anyone has an account and can help me out - the vin is 1GKET16S646166672 Thanks Dave Wakin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 81 300D still hummin
'Saw my nearly 26-yr-old 81 300D pass the house coupla days ago; still lookin good and hummin nicely. 'Sold it 2 yrs ago. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
They average around 14 or 15 in town driving and 18-19 highway. I get near that with my 7100# conversion van. 15 at 55MPH pulling a 36 foot camper actually. My 5700# M37 gets 12 localSeems they could do allot better is all I am saying. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? Mike Canfield wrote: Dave, Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his GF's daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG even on the highway. They don't drive fast or hard either. Ridiculous. Seems Typical. My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Both trucks with auto tranny and toneau covers, gently driven except when towing. He's lucky to get 12mpg hauling his pontoon boat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
That's what I am saying...Seems if they can get that out of a pickup then it should be relatively easy in the SUV's.Not so I guess. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Saw 28 in my 3/4 ton dodge pickup once. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Thats why you need a Duramax Mitch Haley wrote: Mike Canfield wrote: Dave, Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his GF's daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG even on the highway. They don't drive fast or hard either. Ridiculous. Seems Typical. My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Both trucks with auto tranny and toneau covers, gently driven except when towing. He's lucky to get 12mpg hauling his pontoon boat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] Klebby's new Chebby
Hey Kleb, I looked up Superchips programmers for your truck. They claim 1-2mpg increase. The old 2705 seems to be going for $400 or a little less, the new model 2805 a bit under $500. Both programmers have three settings, safe tow, performance tow (not for towing over 6k) and kiss your tires goodbye. Both devices double as a code scanner. With Fords, the hot tip for mpg seems to be using the safe tow setting and driving with a light foot.
[MBZ] [Fwd: intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD]
Original Message Subject:intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:15:58 -0400 From: MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fan stops working after about 10 minutes of driving. The AC is nice and cold, just no air blowing. If I stop for several minutes and then restart the car the fan works great for another 10 minutes. Any solutions out there? Thanks in Advance, Mike
[MBZ] OT - Gear up landing
My B-52 crew landed once with gear up - still had 3 mains and 2 outriggers down, though. Looked sorta like a dog runnin on 3 legs. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] Klebby's new Chebby
hmmm Mitch Haley wrote: Hey Kleb, I looked up Superchips programmers for your truck. They claim 1-2mpg increase. The old 2705 seems to be going for $400 or a little less, the new model 2805 a bit under $500. Both programmers have three settings, safe tow, performance tow (not for towing over 6k) and kiss your tires goodbye. Both devices double as a code scanner. With Fords, the hot tip for mpg seems to be using the safe tow setting and driving with a light foot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Mike Canfield wrote: That's what I am saying...Seems if they can get that out of a pickup then it should be relatively easy in the SUV's.Not so I guess. What's a diesel Excursion get? Can it match an automatic F250? (probably not) I'm 95% sure Jim was talking about his Cummins/Dodge 2500. When you look at the number of cars rated at 40+ mpg hwy 25 years ago vs today, it's pretty pathetic. OTOH, nobody seems to want a car with the performance of a 1.6L Escort today.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
I can spend ALLOT of money on fuel at 15MPG and still not justify the cost of a Dmax. Price of those things is ridiculous. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? Thats why you need a Duramax Mitch Haley wrote: Mike Canfield wrote: Dave, Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his GF's daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG even on the highway. They don't drive fast or hard either. Ridiculous. Seems Typical. My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Both trucks with auto tranny and toneau covers, gently driven except when towing. He's lucky to get 12mpg hauling his pontoon boat. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Klebby's new Chebby
1-2MPG for the risk of voiding the warranty .Gonna take allot of miles to pay off that $500 toy. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes list Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] Klebby's new Chebby Hey Kleb, I looked up Superchips programmers for your truck. They claim 1-2mpg increase. The old 2705 seems to be going for $400 or a little less, the new model 2805 a bit under $500. Both programmers have three settings, safe tow, performance tow (not for towing over 6k) and kiss your tires goodbye. Both devices double as a code scanner. With Fords, the hot tip for mpg seems to be using the safe tow setting and driving with a light foot. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Agreed. I used to get 23 with my 350/350 combo in an 81 Chebbie pickup with a carb...A quadrajunk at that. Just don't understand why, with all of the EFI and such that all cars can't get at least 20. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? Mike Canfield wrote: That's what I am saying...Seems if they can get that out of a pickup then it should be relatively easy in the SUV's.Not so I guess. What's a diesel Excursion get? Can it match an automatic F250? (probably not) I'm 95% sure Jim was talking about his Cummins/Dodge 2500. When you look at the number of cars rated at 40+ mpg hwy 25 years ago vs today, it's pretty pathetic. OTOH, nobody seems to want a car with the performance of a 1.6L Escort today. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
I could crash my motorcycle sans-helmet and hit the pavement face first -- and would come out of it still looking better than you do! On 8/2/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, he'd look like me then too.. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
ouch LT Don wrote: I could crash my motorcycle sans-helmet and hit the pavement face first -- and would come out of it still looking better than you do! On 8/2/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, he'd look like me then too.. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] 240d vacuum troubleshooting questions..
Was working on the 79 240d with my son last evening and got into a little bit of troubleshooting the non-functioning vacuum system. When we took ownership of the car the vacuum line for the locking system was disconnected under the hood with a plug in the vacuum tee. Pulling a vacuum on the disconnected line showed a definite leak. Since we were doing other work in the trunk anyway, I decided to start with the trunk lock. The trunk lock was only releasing with the key (turn all the way counter clockwise and depress the button) which I knew was incorrect. NOTE: it wasn't just that the lock was toggled into the lock position, the key was always required no matter what. Examining the vacuum pod I saw that one of the lines was disconnected. A test of both sides of the pod with the Mityvac showed it to be good. I swapped the lines on the pod and now the source vacuum line under the hood holds a vacuum and the trunk lock works without the key as it should. (Although I haven't tried all modes of operation yet.) The car also shuts down immediately as it should in the current configuration. The bad news is that the fuel filler door lock is also engaged all of the time. Also, none of the door locks respond at all. I'm wondering if the fuel filler pod lines have also been swapped around incorrectly? Each pod has 2 lines to it. (One to lock, one to unlock, right?) What is the yellow/green line's purpose in relation to the yellow/red line? Anyone have a schematic that would help clarify? ...Kevin 87 300TD 284k mi (also with non-functioning vacuum locks) 79 240D 151k mi
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD]
Have you tried wiggling the ignition key a bit? Sometimes if you turn it back about 10 degrees, it will make contact with the accessory lead if the electrical portion of the switch ist kaput. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Striplin Admin account Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:32 AM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd: intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD] Original Message Subject:intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:15:58 -0400 From: MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fan stops working after about 10 minutes of driving. The AC is nice and cold, just no air blowing. If I stop for several minutes and then restart the car the fan works great for another 10 minutes. Any solutions out there? Thanks in Advance, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
That is essentially what I am doing with my 76 300D. I switched to storage insurance as of October 31 last fall and let it sit in my garage until spring. I did not disconnect the battery. I did put one of those little trickle chargers on it. It is one that is smart enough not to charge the battery if it does not need to be charged. I also changed the oil before I put it up for the winter. I made sure the tires were at full pressure. I put a car cover on it. I filled the tank with fuel as well. Can't recall doing anything else. It wintered fine and started up this spring like I had run it the day before. No issues developed over the winter. I plan to do the same thing this fall. I also stored an old Chevy pickup in the garage out at the lake last winter. With it, I was not quite as concerned. I did change the oil but I did not fill the fuel tank. I did pour in some fuel stabilizer as it is gasoline rather than diesel. The other thing that I did with it, was to jack it up and put jackstands under it so that the tires were off of the concrete. That was mainly because there is sometimes some minor flooding into the garage in the spring when the snow melts and I didn't want it sitting in the water or ice when that happened. It was ok over winter as well except that the torque converter appears to have drained down and it leaked a good sized puddle of AT fluid on the floor. If I store it there again this year, I am going to put some cardboard or something under it in an effort to soak the oil and not have to clean the concrete. The only other thing that I suggest, is that you look for something else for a winter driver. I have had a couple of 4 wheel drive vehicles now and swear I will not do winter without one. My first was a 95 Toyota 4Runner (which my younger son is still driving) and my second is a 98 F150 reg cab shortbox with a 4.2 V6 and a manual 5 speed. I am looking for a F150 Supercrew as it would be nice to have more people room. May sell the 4Runner and let Tom have the Ford. Got to love 4 wheel drive in snow, slush etc. Randy Orig message Subject: [MBZ] on babying my 240D Daughter has her '89 Pontiac Sunbird up for sale ( http://don.homelinux.net/megan/kurtie/index.html). I drove it to work today so I could park it in a high traffic area with the For Sale sign there for everyone to see. I've not driven this car much, but almost fell in love with it today. Very fuel efficient (30 mpg combined), peppy, and surprisingly roomy for my 6'4 frame. The AC is ice cold, so much so that I had to turn it down with an outside air temp of 95F. Since I hate to drive my 240D around when they are putting salt on the roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with salt. What are the implications of driving a diesel only on weekends (or maybe once every few weekends for 100 mile road trips), and not at all during the winter? If I put it into winter storage, what should I do other than to disconnect the battery and throw a cover over it? It rips my heart out each spring to see how much new rust has formed over the winter. I'd like to delay the inevitable for as long as possible. Thoughts? D.
Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115? and A/C ?
I seem to have solved a couple of my recent questions. The fuse that was blowing was the wrong size. It was a white one so 8A and should have been a red one 16A. It turns out to be the fuse for the auxiliary fan so that now works. Still some stuff to figure out but I am happy that turned out to be so easy. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115? I can trace the wiring or pull the fuse and see what does not work. I just thought that someone out there might know or remember what the various fuse boxes are for or know where in the CD manual to look. I could look at wiring diagrams I suppose. That might tell me something as the older diagrams are a lot simpler than the new car diagrams. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115? One of the pop off boxes has a red fuse and a white fuse. The white one keeps blowing. I am wondering if both fuses should be red. What does it fuse? Maybe we can work out its correct rating from that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Babying the 240
Dan Weeks wrote: Don: Walk or bicycle to work, esp in cool weather. I think I told Don that a few years ago, but he refuses to haul a 400lb client to the doctor on a bicycle trailer, and apparently his employer doesn't have a fleet car available to him. To slow down the rust, power wash it clean at the car wash, then spray rust spots periodically with WD-40. Good idea. #2 is even cheaper than WD40, and probably has a lot more parafins in it.
Re: [MBZ] Babying the 240
To slow down the rust, power wash it clean at the car wash, then spray rust spots periodically with WD-40. Good idea. #2 is even cheaper than WD40, and probably has a lot more parafins in it. But WD-40 is specifically designed to displace and repel water. (Water Displacement formula attempt #40.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Home Brew
I am really not sure why it stops, but it does. Might be that you use a lesser version of yeast that will not ferment all the sugars. It has been a while since I made the stuff and I do not remember, but I am sure it was not a beer yeast. I have to use champagne yeast in the mead to deal with the higher alcohol level. The bottles of gingerbeer had a really long shelf life. I think I had some over four years after bottling. It was as good as the first bottle I opened. -- clay -- Original message -- From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been making home brew lager and ale for more than a decade. My sons wanted me to make root beer, so I started cheking recipes and ingredients. The one thing I could not figure out was how natural carbonation using yeast works in root beer. With lager and ale, you ferment the brew until it is dry. Then add a little more sugar and bottle it. The little more sugar would ferment to carbonate and preserve the beer. With root beer, you bottle a highly sugared solution with some yeast. But what stops the yeast before it tries to ferment all the sugar and explodes the bottles? Do you have to drink it within a few days of bottling? Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses in a 115? and A/C ?
It was a white one so 8A ... for the auxiliary fan. Yeah, no way an 8A was right for that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Funny things Dakotas. My '96 Dakota v8 club cab will just nudge 20mpg if I really baby it on the highway. Worst I ever did was 8mpg towing a 4400# tractor. Thinking now to run it until the 318ci quits and then stuff a 4BT into it. Lose 100HP gain 100+lb/ft torque. -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:10:19 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mike Canfield wrote: Dave, Just for the record my GF's father bought the Trailblazer and his GF's daughter bought the 04 Envoy.Neither one has EVER seen 20MPG even on the highway. They don't drive fast or hard either. Ridiculous. Seems Typical. My father never saw 20 in his 1996 Dakota 3.9L 4x4, and never saw 18mpg in his 2002 4.7L 4x4 that replaced it. Both trucks with auto tranny and toneau covers, gently driven except when towing. He's lucky to get 12mpg hauling his pontoon boat. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 02 18:14:15 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.190]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8LEV-0002N0-KK for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:14:15 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l37so843876nfc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.180.18 with SMTP id c18mr463862huf; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.138.15 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:13:56 -0500 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Babying the 240 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:14:16 - I wish I could do that. Unfortunately our organization is located in two buildings, about a mile apart, and job responsibilities occasionally dictate that I haul the clients from one building to the other, or accompany them to medical appointments. I do walk often home for lunch. On 8/2/06, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don: Walk or bicycle to work, esp in cool weather. -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
Re: [MBZ] 240d vacuum troubleshooting questions..
The trunk lock was only releasing with the key (turn all the way counter clockwise and depress the button) which I knew was incorrect. This is always what seems to happen when the vacuum system is disconnected. That pod 'breathes' into a locking position eventually, and there's no unlock vacuum to pull it back. The bad news is that the fuel filler door lock is also engaged all of the time. Also, none of the door locks respond at all. I'm wondering if the fuel filler pod lines have also been swapped around incorrectly? Each pod has 2 lines to it. (One to lock, one to unlock, right?) No, the filler pod only has one line, the red-striped locking line, and is spring-loaded to release. Swapping the lines is not the right thing to do at all, unless of course they got swapped wrong in the first place. If one of the two diaphragms leaks, you either replace the diaphragm (if it's one of those) or the entire actuator. Or you can play games with gluing the tears in the rubber, but that's a short-lived solution at best. What is the yellow/green line's purpose in relation to the yellow/red One sucks to unlock (green), one sucks to lock (red). Unless I've got my colors mixed up! The filler pod only has the locking line going to it, so that's a good check. The opposing line is simultaneously vented to atmospheric by the vacuum valve in the driver's door. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Agreed. I used to get 23 with my 350/350 combo in an 81 Chebbie pickup with a carb...A quadrajunk at that. My '74 Chubby with a carb and a 350, stick, doesn't even get half that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Intermittent fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD
The fan stops working after about 10 minutes of driving. The AC is nice and cold, just no air blowing. If I stop for several minutes and then restart the car the fan works great for another 10 minutes. Any solutions out there? Jiggle the ignition switch. Kick the panel under the fan blower. If either causes a reaction, replace ignition switch (electrical part) or fan (brushes), as appropriate. There are other, less likely, culprits. Try these and get back to us. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
That's what I am saying...Seems if they can get that out of a pickup then it should be relatively easy in the SUV's.Not so I guess. Sure! Put a Cummins 6B in it and it will. The cost increment is about $4k, IIRC, and it weighs 1000# so the front end needs a bit of beefing up. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Jim Cathey wrote: Agreed. I used to get 23 with my 350/350 combo in an 81 Chebbie pickup with a carb...A quadrajunk at that. My '74 Chubby with a carb and a 350, stick, doesn't even get half that. Yep. We had a '73 Ford F100, 360 2bbl C4 that got 11-13 for the most part. Replaced it with a '76 GMC 2500, 350/350 4bbl that got about the same. 23mpg would be one mpg more than we got on the hwy with a stick shift 250 straight six '77 Nova. The F100 and Nova were bought new. I can't believe Chebby made 1981 emmissions on a 5.7L auto tranny truck with more mpg than that manny tranny '77 Nova.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Ain't that the truth. My '88 GMC S15 2.8l was underpowered on the highway but regularly turned in 25mpg and was great in the woods. My wife is going from a 3 mile commute to about 15 miles and I'm a bit concerned about her spending everything she makes in fuel (well not that bad but you get the idea). She drives my Dakota which does around 18mpg. Theory 1 has me making my own frankenheap but my 240D only averaged around 28mpg which would barely pay for the added insurance and fees although it'd be handy to have a 3rd car. The other idea is to buy a new vehicle, something small that gets better mileage. Gotta be 4wd so I can tow my snowmobile trailers and go to camp. Best thing I've found so far is a Suzuki Vitara or Chevy Tracker 2 door convertable. Those are rated for 26mpg on the highway which is okay but I'm not sure its better enough to make it worth buying another vehicle while my Dakota still has plenty of miles in it... -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:24:45 -0400 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original They average around 14 or 15 in town driving and 18-19 highway. I get near that with my 7100# conversion van. 15 at 55MPH pulling a 36 foot camper actually. My 5700# M37 gets 12 localSeems they could do allot better is all I am saying. Mike - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 02 18:39:03 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8LcV-0004nf-R8 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:39:03 + Received: from dogear.com (jimc.progress.wi-fi.windwireless.net [206.63.94.197] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k72IdX5W026510 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:39:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:38:57 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:39:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:39:04 - but you get the idea). She drives my Dakota which does around 18mpg. Theory 1 has me making my own frankenheap but my 240D only averaged around 28mpg which would barely pay for the added insurance and fees although it'd be handy to have a 3rd car. You call that a frankenheap? How about this: Put a sprinter engine in your Dakota. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Absolutely. Speaking of which, anybody want an '88 GMC 1500 4x4 350ci v8 single cab pretty much all the options for that year. 9x,xxx miles, some body rust, broken CV in the front end, runs great $500? Located in Caribou, Maine, was my great Uncle's truck, we used it as a farm truck until Dad broke the CV November before last. I hate to put money into a pickup I don't really need. -Curt Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:37:19 -0400 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I can spend ALLOT of money on fuel at 15MPG and still not justify the cost of a Dmax. Price of those things is ridiculous. Mike - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 02 18:42:55 2006 Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.206]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G8LgF-0005G1-5o for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:42:55 + Received: from voyager.net (d219.as1.sfld1.mi.core.com [209.153.174.4]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.13.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id k72Igovc004892 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:42:44 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 18:42:55 - Curt Raymond wrote: The other idea is to buy a new vehicle, something small that gets better mileage. Gotta be 4wd What are Chevy LUV 4x4 diesels going for these days? Of course, drive it in the salt and it will dissolve in months, but it will get much better mpg than your 240d.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Mitch wondered: What are Chevy LUV 4x4 diesels going for these days? Holy cats! Where can you find one of those anymore? My dad had two of 'em and those things were great. I'd love to have one. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Bob Rentfro wrote: Mitch wondered: What are Chevy LUV 4x4 diesels going for these days? Holy cats! Where can you find one of those anymore? This one seems to be 2wd, but it's the only diesel I found. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=190014939955
Re: [MBZ] Klebby's new Chebby
Mike Canfield wrote: 1-2MPG for the risk of voiding the warranty .Gonna take allot of miles to pay off that $500 toy. You gotta remember, though, on a truck like that 1-2 mpg is probably a 10% decrease in fuel consumption. At today's prices that's like getting $0.30 off every gallon. If you drove 15K per year you'd pay it off in a couple years. If it really does what they say (a big if) it might be worth it. Maybe not 'till after the warranty expires, tho.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone Have Carfax?
Yup...I saw that one. Being from Loo-zee-anna, I wonder if it was Kartinafied? It would be sweet to find a 4X4 one that has been taken care of reasonably well. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ
Re: [MBZ] 81 300D still hummin
Good news! Wilton, we are glad you are still hummin nicely too! At 09:22 AM 8/2/2006, you wrote: 'Saw my nearly 26-yr-old 81 300D pass the house coupla days ago; still lookin good and hummin nicely. 'Sold it 2 yrs ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Is this an SLS buttdragger?
What do you think, a bit low in the back? No disclosed SLS problem. Cheap for a 16v so far, but rezerve not met. http://i10.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/e8/2f/69_12.JPG http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230014166442
[MBZ] Need A/C part
I need the A/C compressor manifold that bolts to the compressor and mates to the hose set on my 86 SDL. This hose set has the two hoses terminating in a plate that bolts to the manifold with a single bolt with o-ring seals between the plate and the manifold. I need the manifold for a 10PA15C compressor. Does anyone have a spare compressor around that you could spare the manifold from? The 10PA15C was used on some SDLs, some 124 cars and most 201s from what i can tell. The 10P15C has a similar manifold, but the bolts are closer together. This seems to be a MB only manifold. Your compressor should have a tag on the back that says if it is a 10PA series or a 10P series. THe manifold from any 10PA series should work. If you have a manifold and are unsure if it is right, email me the bolt hole spacing for the 4 manifold bolts and I will be able to tell if it is the right one. TIA If you have a core 10PA compressor with the manifold that you'd rather sell whole, send me a price. Loren 86 SDL et al
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C part
The 10P15C has a similar manifold, but the bolts are closer together. This seems to be a MB only manifold. Your compressor should have a tag on the back that says if it is a 10PA series or a 10P series. Now _that_'s unfortunate. Wonder why they did that? I guessed wrong. While I have a spare compressor in my 201, given that we have four cars that use this thing I think I'd better hold onto it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C part
Are you sure all yours 10PA and not 10P? At 03:24 PM 8/2/2006, you wrote: The 10P15C has a similar manifold, but the bolts are closer together. This seems to be a MB only manifold. Your compressor should have a tag on the back that says if it is a 10PA series or a 10P series. Now _that_'s unfortunate. Wonder why they did that? I guessed wrong. While I have a spare compressor in my 201, given that we have four cars that use this thing I think I'd better hold onto it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT: cheap V12 coupe
Ddin't I read someone here a few weeks ago say that the V12s cooked the ignition systems or something, parts that were tucked up between the heads and got really really hot? --R Mitch Haley wrote: As seen in the Lansing, MI State Journal this AM: 1988 XJS, V12, runs good, 69k, $2000 or best offer. 989-834-5313 I used to want one of these sooo bad, but can't stomach Lucas electrics and $0.30 per mile fuel costs, even in a toy car. Maybe if the V12 could be sold for $2k, it could make a nice place to drop in a 606 with twin sequential turbos. Anybody know how tall the engine bay is? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] on babying my 240D
Back in the 60s or 70s one of my mother's friends hit a mule with her old Beetle one night on the way home from work (nurse, 3-11 shift). The mule rolled over the top of the car, got up, shook its head, and wandered off. The car was generally undamaged. The mule probably needed something more substantial to provide it a clue. --R Mike Canfield wrote: My friends wife just hit a deer in her new Beetle. Held up VERY well. 30MPH= a dent in the front of the hood and a broken headlight adjuster. No other damage at all. We were all very surprised. Mike
Re: [MBZ] Need A/C part
Are you sure all yours 10PA and not 10P? No, but they're all ND 10's and 1986. -- Jim
[MBZ] 107 sunvisor clips
Anybody remember the source of those newly-made sunvisor clips (male) for 107 SL's? Somebody's making them, and I lost my contact info. I've got a guy asking about them. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Babying the 240
I buy spray cans of something called corrosion barrier film. It is oilier than WD 40 which tends to disappear after it dries. I spray the stuff into the doors in the fall. If I put too much it drips a bit but goes away eventually and it does not smell foul like many oil treatments. I have tried all sorts of oil in the past, both new and used. I think this stuff does as well as any of the other things I have tried. Will find the can and pass along more details if anyone is interested. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Babying the 240 To slow down the rust, power wash it clean at the car wash, then spray rust spots periodically with WD-40. Good idea. #2 is even cheaper than WD40, and probably has a lot more parafins in it. But WD-40 is specifically designed to displace and repel water. (Water Displacement formula attempt #40.) -- Jim
