Re: [MBZ] OT - sorta: Biodiesel-ethanol-diesel fuel blend?

[Chuck Landenberger]

On the fence???

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Aug 10, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


I wonder where he sits?

--R

Bob Rentfro wrote:

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My life is now more complete.

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Has anyone heard of a biodiesel-ethanol-diesel (EB-Diesel)  
blended fuel?
I'm facilitating a biodiesel roundtable discussion at a large  
conference
next week, and one of my potential panel members has researched  
using this
blend in his transit system over in Eastern Washington.  Here's a  
link to

the only info I've found so far:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/enfuem/2004/18/i06/abs/ 
ef049865e.html


Sounds intriguing

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'84 300D (216k)
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Re: [MBZ] OT - sorta: Biodiesel-ethanol-diesel fuel blend?

[Rich Thomas]

I wonder where he sits?

--R

Bob Rentfro wrote:

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Has anyone heard of a biodiesel-ethanol-diesel (EB-Diesel) blended fuel?
I'm facilitating a biodiesel roundtable discussion at a large conference
next week, and one of my potential panel members has researched using this
blend in his transit system over in Eastern Washington.  Here's a link to
the only info I've found so far:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/enfuem/2004/18/i06/abs/ef049865e.html

Sounds intriguing

--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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Re: [MBZ] the pipeline

[Curt Raymond]

Thats the number NPR has been using right along.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:17:08 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] the pipeline
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Kevin --

Can you steer me to an authoritative source for that information?  
It's not that I doubt what you say -- I've heard for years that most  
Alaskan oil is exported -- but I'd like to have a more credible- 
sounding attribution than "a guy on the Mercedes list" when I start  
using that five to eight percent statistic in conversation.

--mf


On Aug 8, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Kevin wrote:

> Either way, it probably isn't going to go up all that appreciably.  
> Estimates
> are that the pipeline really only contributes somewhere between  
> five and eight
> percent to the west coast supply (since most of that oil is sent  
> overseas -
> yes, america exports a LOT of refined fuel), AND that there is  
> currently
> somewhat of a surplus of refined fuel in the market right now.
>
> Japan, OTOH, one of the big recipients of the refined fuel that  
> comes from
> that pipeline will notice a price spike. A lot of the analysts that  
> are
> concerned about the pipeline are from asian countries/companies.

_
L. Mark Finch
Indianapolis
1982 300D Turbodiesel


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Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
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'84 300D (216k)
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Re: [MBZ] OT - sorta: Biodiesel-ethanol-diesel fuel blend?

[Bob Rentfro]

I've never met a roundtable discussion facilitator before.
My life is now more complete.

Bob Rentfro

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - sorta: Biodiesel-ethanol-diesel fuel blend?



Has anyone heard of a biodiesel-ethanol-diesel (EB-Diesel) blended fuel?
I'm facilitating a biodiesel roundtable discussion at a large conference
next week, and one of my potential panel members has researched using this
blend in his transit system over in Eastern Washington.  Here's a link to
the only info I've found so far:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/enfuem/2004/18/i06/abs/ef049865e.html

Sounds intriguing

--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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[MBZ] speedo not working

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Took the 560SEL out today for the first time in a while.  Did take it 
out just yesterday and Im pretty sure the speedo was working then.  I 
know it was working fine last time it was droven.  Today I noticed 
speedo and odo is not working at all.  This seems strange.  I have never 
seen this happen before.  Its usually the odo that quits but the speedo 
keeps working fine.  Its like all the sudden its just not getting a 
signal.  I checked the pickup at the tranny end and it seems fine. 
Pulled the cluster and its plugged in the back.  Is there a fuse or 
something I need to be looking for that I am missing?  All the other 
instruments work fine.  Thing has 130k on it.  Guess I might end up 
having to swap in another speedo to see if it works then.  But would 
want to find one with similar mileage on it if I have to replace it.

Re: [MBZ] converting a text file into a pdf

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Kaleb wrote:

> I called yesterday and they told
> me about  printing then scanning.

Hah!!! 

That is the clue!

If you just create a PDF of a text file, it will have text embedded.
What you want is an _image_ file of a text file.

Someone mentioned "print screen" image - that would probable be
easiest...

Otherwise, I'm not thinking of any programs that convert a text file
to an image file.

--  Philip

Re: [MBZ] converting a text file into a pdf

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that LarryT wrote:

> Dittos to Lee's suggestion to use OpenOffice.  The word processor
> will do  what you want.  I learned about Open Office when I had a
> problem with my MS  Office Suite 97 and MS said they no longer
> support that version - they  suggested I upgrade to a newer version
> - at more than $100 IIRC.  No thanks,  says I.
> 
> So far, I have used the word processor - called AbiWord 2.4 - and it
> works  much like Word.

AbiWord is _not_ OpenOffice. It is "competition" to OpenOffice.

> They
> also have a database, a  program similar to Powerpoint, Excel, etc.

OpenOffice is a full suite with word proccessor, paint, spreadsheet,
draw, and presentation applications. It is available for a number of
different platforms and does a rather good job of converting to/from
MS Office file formats.

> It doesn;t have a deep Help program so all Help is through User
> Groups.

OpenOffice2 does have a rather good help section.

--Philip, with OpenOffice on three platforms

[MBZ] Chaep Jetta Diesel on ebay. Not running

[Donald Snook]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Voltswagon-Jetta-Diesel_W0QQitemZ320
015076265QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6021QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 129K 

Re: [MBZ] W124 Hitch recommendation

[Tan Qu]

Thanks Casey. I may have to ask you again when I get
ready to install on the adjustments you made. 


Tan

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>
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> It was moderately simple to install, but did require
> some slight adjustments
> and drilling to get it to fit correctly.
> Here are some pics of the hitch:
> http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/TD%20Hitch/
> 
> On 8/10/06, Tan Qu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I know this was discussed before but I can't seem
> to
> > find it in my e-mail archives. Anybody can give
> some
> > recommendations? This is for a '91 300D 2.5.
> Thanks.
> >
> 
> Casey
> Olympia, WA
> Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative
> state"
> '87 300TD intercooler #22 (217k)
> '84 300D (216k)
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Re: [MBZ] Headlines in 2029

[Zeitgeist]

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Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (214k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes

[mykd1]

Actually Tom there isn't much difference between what they consider lifetime 
and say the cheaper 1 year guarantee part. The lifetime is just made with the 
same grade material to the factory specs like what was originally on the 
vehicle. The cheaper part is just a softer material and not necessarily better 
for your rotors or drums. They may wear faster, but they also might have less 
resistance to heat and could cause your rotors or drums to warp. 
 
Harry
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes


I never understood the idea behind "lifetime" brake pads and shoes.
Something must wear. If not the pad and shoes; the rotors and drums will
wear. The whole point of a pad or shoe is to have something
"sacrificial" that is easily replaced. I prefer replacing pads and shoes
to rotors and drums.

Tom Potter

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes

...  Another reason I like 
cheap pads and shoes that don't wear the drums and rotors; they don't
rust 
to the drum or rotor!  (MB content: cheap pads will let your rotors live

longer)

Loren
Company 99 Caravan
lotsa MBs

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[MBZ] Headlines in 2029

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Headlines from the year 2029!


Ozone created by electric cars now killing millions in the seventh
largest country in the world, Mexifornia, formerly known as California
White minorities still trying to have English recognized as Mexifornia's
third language.
Baby conceived naturally - - scientists stumped.
Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage.
Iran still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 10 more
years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels.
France pleads for global help after being taken over by Jamaica .
Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported
legally, but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking.
George Z. Bush says he will run for President in 2036.
Postal Service raises price of first class stamp to $17.89 and reduces
mail delivery to Wednesdays only.
85-year, $75.8 billion study : Diet and Exercise is the key to weight loss.
Average weight of Americans drops to 250 lbs.
Japanese scientists have created a camera with such a fast shutter
speed, they now can photograph a woman with her mouth shut. (I just sent
it. I didn't write it!)
Massachusetts executes last remaining conservative.
Supreme Court rules punishment of criminals violates their civil rights.
Average height of NBA players now nine feet, seven inches.
IRS sets lowest tax rate at 75 percent.!
Florida voters still having trouble with voting machines.

















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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] W124 Hitch recommendation

[Zeitgeist]

I purchased a DaLan hitch for my '87 300TD from these folks a while back:
http://hitches4less.com/mercedes-benz-300-trailer-hitch.html
It was moderately simple to install, but did require some slight adjustments
and drilling to get it to fit correctly.
Here are some pics of the hitch:
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/TD%20Hitch/

On 8/10/06, Tan Qu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I know this was discussed before but I can't seem to
find it in my e-mail archives. Anybody can give some
recommendations? This is for a '91 300D 2.5. Thanks.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (217k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG

[MBZ] W124 Hitch recommendation

[Tan Qu]

I know this was discussed before but I can't seem to
find it in my e-mail archives. Anybody can give some
recommendations? This is for a '91 300D 2.5. Thanks.

Tan

Re: [MBZ] OT - sorta: Biodiesel-ethanol-diesel fuel blend?

[Rich Thomas]

Hmmm, that is interesting, that part that ethanol doesn't mix well with 
dinodiesel, as that Dri-gas stuff  to deal with water in the fuel is 
ethanol, or is it methanol?


--R (believing that ethanol makes more sense as a brain oxygenate)

Zeitgeist wrote:

Has anyone heard of a biodiesel-ethanol-diesel (EB-Diesel) blended fuel?
I'm facilitating a biodiesel roundtable discussion at a large conference
next week, and one of my potential panel members has researched using this
blend in his transit system over in Eastern Washington.  Here's a link to
the only info I've found so far:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/enfuem/2004/18/i06/abs/ef049865e.html

Sounds intriguing

  

[MBZ] OT - sorta: Biodiesel-ethanol-diesel fuel blend?

[Zeitgeist]

Has anyone heard of a biodiesel-ethanol-diesel (EB-Diesel) blended fuel?
I'm facilitating a biodiesel roundtable discussion at a large conference
next week, and one of my potential panel members has researched using this
blend in his transit system over in Eastern Washington.  Here's a link to
the only info I've found so far:
http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/enfuem/2004/18/i06/abs/ef049865e.html

Sounds intriguing

--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (216k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG

Re: [MBZ] 201 status

[Jim Cathey]

Looked at the power wiring to the trunk.  Can resurrect a nice big
fused unswitched line and a mating ground, no problem.  I have a
junkbox rear window defogger relay (107 820 00 10) and
its mating connector, which might serve.  It has a nice mounting ear
on it already.  Internally it's a simple analog circuit using a
1000 uF 16V capacitor as a timing element.  (It rests at 12V
and once triggered begins to decay down to about 5V whereupon the
relay trips off.)  The relay draws 42 uA of current when off,
so it can be used in an unswitched environment.  It draws about
120 mA when on.  I hooked it up on the bench and wired a spare
12V dashboard clock to it to find out how long it really runs once
triggered.  The clock registered about 17 minutes.  There is
plenty of room in the relay shell to add more capacitance.

There are unused speaker wires running forwards from the trunk to the
driver's footwell area, I can perhaps use one to tap the (now unused)
kickdown switch input to get an "Engine Running" signal (from the
Klima), perhaps even better than "Ignition On" for the purpose of
gating heavy loads.

Time to rotate the tires to put the badly-worn one (from the previous
bad alignment, one presumes) on the back.  No problem, except that I
finally noticed that the front and back tires are of different sizes!
The front (worn) tires are 195/60R15, and the back are 195/65R15.  So
I rotated both sides to keep it symmetrical.  I wonder which size is
the correct one?

I dug around in the junk box looking for capacitors.  While I found
one or two that would fit in the shell and were of appropriate values,
they were too leaky to serve.  The only non-leaky one I found was a
1000 uF 35V unit that was 'new', and much too large to fit in
the shell.  With it in circuit, the delay was about 30 minutes.  I
tried one of the more leaky ones in parallel too, and got almost an
hour's delay.  I tested the relay and found that it indeed will supply
power indefinitely so long as the start control lead is held high.
(This will be hooked to the kickdown output of the Klima.)  I think
that it just re-arms itself quickly when it times out, as I don't see
any way to maintain the charge on the timing capacitor through the
start terminal.

I removed the first-aid box and cut a rectangular hole in the side for
an old 114/115 rear dome light switch.  I also drilled a hole in the
side for the lighter socket.  Unfortunately I had a big chunk torn out
between the two holes when the 15/16" drill grabbed, so I had to glue
that back.  These items are on the side rather than the bottom so that
water and crap won't get into them, and so that they don't hang down
into the trunk where they could get caught on things.

I found a male pin to match the kickdown switch connector and soldered
it onto one of the fore/aft wires, and plugged it into the correct pin
on the connector and taped it up.  I checked with a meter, and that
pin is indeed hot only when the motor is actually running.

The defogger relay circuit uses two PNP transistors, five diodes, two
capacitors (one big), seven resistors, and one relay.  I made a 
schematic

of the relay, for future reference, in Illustrator, PostScript, PDF, &
GIF formats.  (http://cathey.dogear.com/mb190d.html) In operation, Q1
is 'virtually' on all the time, which means the relay will actuate when
its positive coil lead is powered.  Q1 is deenergized by the base
being dragged high, either by the Stop input going high or by the
action of Q2 when it times out.  C1, the timing capacitor, is charged
through D2 when the relay is off.  The voltage on C1 begins to decay
through R7 once the relay is energized, once it sags to a point that
turns Q2 on (a little below 5V, set by R3 & R4), Q2 drags the base
of Q1 high, turning off the relay.  D1 holds the relay coil on during
the timed cycle, and also supplies power to the light in the dashboard
switch.

I installed a 2200 uF 25V capacitor (from the junk box) in
parallel with the existing 1000 uF 16V timing capacitor (C1)
inside the relay.  The time delay worked out to be 40 minutes.  I then
reexamined the schematic of the defroster relay, and discovered a
problem.  Because the relay backdrives its own Start (E) input through
a diode (D1) from its output (87) in order to light the light in the
switch, my original plan to just short the output to +12V via the
'Solar' switch for the solar charging panel is no good: if you do that
the relay energizes, and stays that way.  Unfortunately I have already
cut the hole for the switch, it's not particularly a standard size,
and it's only SPST.  I need to do some more thinking.  Can the relay
be modified internally to isolate its output terminal from the E
input?  A series diode would do it, but it'd need to be a very hefty
one, and it would cause a voltage drop to the load.

With the relay assembled the time ran long.  Really long.  Three hours
in fact.  Apart again it ran 40 minutes, I think the extra capacitor
is physically interf

Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

good point

Loren Faeth wrote:


When did that stop you?



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 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL,
 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

which SDL?

Luther Gulseth wrote:


how much for the SDL?


On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:46:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I have WAY too many cars at the moment

Loren Faeth wrote:


K'leb, that car is so you!   It is saying Klebbie, come get me!  Can't
you hear it?


At 07:38 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:


yea, those engines actually are not bad once they are sorted out.  This
one sounds like it is

Bob Rentfro wrote:


I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, thats true

Bob Rentfro wrote:


I think I would not have parked it on top of a huge puddle of some sort

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] the pipeline

[L. Mark Finch]

Kevin --

Can you steer me to an authoritative source for that information?  
It's not that I doubt what you say -- I've heard for years that most  
Alaskan oil is exported -- but I'd like to have a more credible- 
sounding attribution than "a guy on the Mercedes list" when I start  
using that five to eight percent statistic in conversation.


--mf


On Aug 8, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Kevin wrote:

Either way, it probably isn't going to go up all that appreciably.  
Estimates
are that the pipeline really only contributes somewhere between  
five and eight
percent to the west coast supply (since most of that oil is sent  
overseas -
yes, america exports a LOT of refined fuel), AND that there is  
currently

somewhat of a surplus of refined fuel in the market right now.

Japan, OTOH, one of the big recipients of the refined fuel that  
comes from
that pipeline will notice a price spike. A lot of the analysts that  
are

concerned about the pipeline are from asian countries/companies.


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I always cringe when I read "the air blows [super] cold" unless they specify
"during hot weather".

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Where do you reckon this one will end up price wise, O Great Okie Low
Price
Master Dude?

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Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car

[Ed Booher]

Since Kal-Eb will offer you $500 for it, I'll go $510

On 8/9/06, Trampas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I would like to get $1000 for the car, but...

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Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes

[Mike Canfield]

Tom,
 The idea is to get more money out of suckers that don't have a clue.  They 
gamble on the fact that most people that are replacing their own brake parts 
will sell or junk the car well before the pads could need replacement. 
Therefore they get the big money for the lifetime pads when the 1yr. 
warranty pads would have done the job.  Lifetime isn't for the life of the 
car, but the owner.  AND only to the original purchaser.  What a scam.


Mike
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I never understood the idea behind "lifetime" brake pads and shoes.
Something must wear. If not the pad and shoes; the rotors and drums will
wear. The whole point of a pad or shoe is to have something
"sacrificial" that is easily replaced. I prefer replacing pads and shoes
to rotors and drums.

Tom Potter

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...  Another reason I like
cheap pads and shoes that don't wear the drums and rotors; they don't
rust
to the drum or rotor!  (MB content: cheap pads will let your rotors live

longer)

Loren
Company 99 Caravan
lotsa MBs

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Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes

[Potter, Tom E]

I never understood the idea behind "lifetime" brake pads and shoes.
Something must wear. If not the pad and shoes; the rotors and drums will
wear. The whole point of a pad or shoe is to have something
"sacrificial" that is easily replaced. I prefer replacing pads and shoes
to rotors and drums.

Tom Potter

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...  Another reason I like 
cheap pads and shoes that don't wear the drums and rotors; they don't
rust 
to the drum or rotor!  (MB content: cheap pads will let your rotors live

longer)

Loren
Company 99 Caravan
lotsa MBs

Re: [MBZ] 300SD

[James Jetton]

Trampas,
I live in Greensboro, what are you looking to trade for or get for the 300D?  
Give me some info on condition, maybe some pics, and I might be interested or 
know someone around here who might be interested.


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I will be putting some pictures up on a website in the next day or so. 

Trampas

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Trampas,
I live in Greensboro, what are you looking to trade for or get for the 300D?
Give me some info on condition, maybe some pics, and I might be interested
or know someone around here who might be interested.


James Jetton
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Re: [MBZ] leakly hydraulic hose and JB weld etc.

[Jim Cathey]

Alas it will take a few days to a week to procure any sort of
replacement high pressure hose hose.


Take the hose to your local hydraulic hose shop, they should be
able to put on new rubber while you wait.

-- Jim

[MBZ] leakly hydraulic hose and JB weld etc.

[John M McIntosh]

Last weekend I was checking under hood and noticed on the 83 300TDt   
the fabric coated feed hose to the hydraulic pump was all covered in  
oil plus of course much of the front of the engine block. Now I had  
assumed that the hose was weeping since it's 23 years old, I had that  
issue with the 90's wagon, so I ordered a replacement which arrived  
today. However just to crosscheck I wrapped both the old hose and the  
high pressure hose in plastic wrap and confirmed it's really the high  
pressure hose that has a pin hole leak in it.


Alas it will take a few days to a week to procure any sort of  
replacement high pressure hose hose. So I'm wonder if I can attack  
the issue with JB weld and aluminum tape or something to gain a few  
days of drivability, or will I have to park it until I can get a  
replacement hose from somewhere, so thoughts on this are welcome.


I'll get to replace both hoses (I hope), plus the filter and the  
fluid on the weekend or next , or should I say the teenager about  
here will do that work.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes

[Loren Faeth]

Got around to changing the pads on the van tonight.  It went exactly as OK 
Don said.  After I got over my rant about having to pull the caliper just 
to change the pads, it was pretty simple.  About an hour start to finish, 
including getting out the jack and rattle wrench and putting everything 
away.   Probably would have been 5 min faster if it was not dark for the 
second wheel.


Still, the system seems pretty flimsy when compared with the ATE brakes I 
am used to.  2 little 8mm bolts hold the caliper on.  Not as substantial as 
the 12 mm ones on the MBs.  Some brain put metallic shoes on the rear.  Any 
time the van sits for more than 24 hours, the shoes rust to the 
drums.  After it sat for a month or so I had to take the tires off and 
whack the drums several times to get the shoes loose.  Usually you can back 
a ways and the shoes will let go.  Not that time.  Another reason I like 
cheap pads and shoes that don't wear the drums and rotors; they don't rust 
to the drum or rotor!  (MB content: cheap pads will let your rotors live 
longer)


Loren
Company 99 Caravan
lotsa MBs

Thanks Don!

At 08:18 PM 7/24/2006, you wrote:

Assuming that it's the same as our '97, here's what I did (and the
Haynes manual prescribes):

1- Use a c-clamp to press the piston back into the bore - after
removing some fluid from the reservoir. The caliper is a single
piston, floating type - it scoots on the two mounting bolts to sqeeze
the disk.

2 - Remove the two bolts holding the caliper on the steering knuckle.
They have bellows type rubber sleeves over the extended shafts.

3 - Slip the caliper off the disk. Remove the old pads.

4 - Suspend the caliper from the spring with a piece of wire. Remove
bushings and boots that the mounting bolts go through - inspect,
clean, and lubricate the bushings with multi-purpose grease, and
re-assemble.

5 - Apply anti-squeal compound to the back of the new pads. Install
the inner pad first, making sure that the retaining spring is fully
seated. Ditto for the outer pad.

6 - Install the caliper assembly, torque the bolts to 30 ft.lbs.
Install wheel, torque the lug bolts to 100 ft.lbs.

7 - Pump the brakes several time to seat the pads, fill the brake
fluid reservoir. Carefully test the operation of the brakes.

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> changed them?  How much time does it take?  any special tools or tricks?  I
> have never done pads except ATE.
>

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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Loren Faeth]

When did that stop you?

At 09:46 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:

I have WAY too many cars at the moment

Loren Faeth wrote:
> K'leb, that car is so you!   It is saying Klebbie, come get me!  Can't
> you hear it?
>
>
> At 07:38 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
>> yea, those engines actually are not bad once they are sorted out.  This
>> one sounds like it is
>>
>> Bob Rentfro wrote:
>>> I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
>>> And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Luther Gulseth]

how much for the SDL?


On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:46:08 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have WAY too many cars at the moment

Loren Faeth wrote:

K'leb, that car is so you!   It is saying Klebbie, come get me!  Can't
you hear it?


At 07:38 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:

yea, those engines actually are not bad once they are sorted out.  This
one sounds like it is

Bob Rentfro wrote:

I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I have WAY too many cars at the moment

Loren Faeth wrote:
K'leb, that car is so you!   It is saying Klebbie, come get me!  Can't 
you hear it?



At 07:38 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:

yea, those engines actually are not bad once they are sorted out.  This
one sounds like it is

Bob Rentfro wrote:

I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"

Bob Rentfro


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[Bob Rentfro]

I think I would not have parked it on top of a huge puddle of some sort

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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Loren Faeth]

K'leb, that car is so you!   It is saying Klebbie, come get me!  Can't 
you hear it?



At 07:38 PM 8/9/2006, you wrote:

yea, those engines actually are not bad once they are sorted out.  This
one sounds like it is

Bob Rentfro wrote:
> I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
> And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"
>
> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Glow Cycle When Aux Fan is On

[Marshall Booth]

Bob Rentfro wrote:
Something  I noticed yesterday...when the engine is at temperature (remember the whole heat-soaked inferno garage thing) and I switch the key to the glow position, the fan starts instantly and the glow light comes on for a second or two then, instead of going out quickly it kind of fades out like its on a dimmer or something. Then the car starts normally.  It only does this when the aux fan is running. 
Is this okay? 


Never heard of that. I could imagine that a loose engine ground MIGHT 
generate some strange things, but I've never seen any commonality 
between the aux fan and the glow plug circuit.


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Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU

[David Brodbeck]

Potter, Tom E wrote:
> I am of the "form should follow function" school, so I think a truck
> should look like a...truck.

I've always thought the old International Harvester trucks, the ones
from the late 60s/early 70s, had really nice lines while still looking
"like a truck."  Here's a pretty good picture of one, although it's been
repainted:
http://www.stinkypigs.com/FarmHouse/Truck/DSC_0012.jpg
The last one I saw in person was red with a silver grille and headlight
surrounds.  It looked really sharp.  The wrap-around windshield and
center-hinged hood give it a classic look.

Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU

[David Brodbeck]

Curt Raymond wrote:
> The Element has nothing on the Aztec. I've actually ridden in the Element and 
> I liked it. I appreciate the plastic floor, easy to clean, hard to damage. 
>   

The Element only looks useful, though. Look at the specs. My Honda Civic
Si had a larger payload capacity!

Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU

[David Brodbeck]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Frederick Moir wrote:
>   
>>  VW Rabbit PU, it succumbed to rust and I wore out the engine. It would take 
>> off of its'
>> own accord with lots of smoke. Help! Stand on the brakes and get it under 
>> sixty and
>> continue, cautiously. Shouldda used M1!
>> 
>
> My brother owned a $200 rabbit that did that on occasion. I always figured 
> blowby
> oil would puddle in the air filter housing until the engine swallowed it in a 
> gulp. 
> His would go 45-50mph with no fuel when it happened.
>   

That's pretty much it.  The oil separation in those engines is very
primitive, so when the rings get bad enough they'll run away on the oil
mist in the blowby.  It dumps from the valve cover directly into the
intake runners on most models.

Re: [MBZ] this looks nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

no telling

Bob Rentfro wrote:
Where do you reckon this one will end up price wise, O Great Okie Low Price 
Master Dude?


Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, those engines actually are not bad once they are sorted out.  This 
one sounds like it is


Bob Rentfro wrote:

I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"

Bob Rentfro


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Re: [MBZ] this looks nice

[Bob Rentfro]

Where do you reckon this one will end up price wise, O Great Okie Low Price 
Master Dude?


Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

pics pls

Trampas wrote:
I would like to get $1000 for the car, but... 


Trampas

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too far away I think, how much do you want for it?

Trampas wrote:

I have a 300k mile 300SD I am trying to figure out what to do with. It

runs

ok, low compression on #2 causing miss at idle, been that way for last

100k

miles. It has a new AC compressor and the AC works good. Clear coat is
peeling and there is a dent in the rear bumper. Also one of the window
tracks broke needs the $5 guide piece from Rusty. 


I would gladly trade it or sell it if someone was interested. By the way

it
is in Raleigh NC. 


Trampas

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a v6?  did somebody drop a different motor down in that thing or 
something?  They didnt have a v6 back then.


Donald Snook wrote:

Mac Wrote: 

 


"Right now you can't give away a gasser V8 w126 around here."

 

Well, then I am in luck because the 300SEL is a V6. 

 


Donald H. Snook

1990 200SEL 129K 


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Re: [MBZ] check it out, think I might bid unless LT don wants it

[Bob Rentfro]

I may bid on that puppy...nice, roomy car pool ride.
And four words caught my eye..." air is ICE Cold"

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Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car

[Trampas]

I would like to get $1000 for the car, but... 

Trampas

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too far away I think, how much do you want for it?

Trampas wrote:
> I have a 300k mile 300SD I am trying to figure out what to do with. It
runs
> ok, low compression on #2 causing miss at idle, been that way for last
100k
> miles. It has a new AC compressor and the AC works good. Clear coat is
> peeling and there is a dent in the rear bumper. Also one of the window
> tracks broke needs the $5 guide piece from Rusty. 
> 
> I would gladly trade it or sell it if someone was interested. By the way
it
> is in Raleigh NC. 
> 
> Trampas
> 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car
> 
> a v6?  did somebody drop a different motor down in that thing or 
> something?  They didnt have a v6 back then.
> 
> Donald Snook wrote:
> 
>> Mac Wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>> "Right now you can't give away a gasser V8 w126 around here."
>>
>>  
>>
>> Well, then I am in luck because the 300SEL is a V6. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Donald H. Snook
>>
>> 1990 200SEL 129K 
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car

[Trampas]

Depends on where you get the OM617. If the engine comes from a W123 you will
need to change the oil filter housing, oil cooler hoses, motor mount arms.
Of course you will have to change the transmission, and adjust drive shaft
as needed. 

Then you will have to install Glow plug relay system and hook up all the
electronics including tachometer amplifier. Also ignition switch for the
vacuum cut off. Additionally instrument cluster depending on if you want
glow plug light. 

Also you will need to change the fuel outlet from gas tank and remove
electric fuel pump.

Trampas

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I have been thinking about dropping a 617 down in a 380SEL I have.  What 
all did you have to change

Trampas wrote:
> I also have a 1984 500SEL with an OM617 under the hood. It is still a work
> in progress, it currently runs and drives but I have not had time to
finish
> it. The body is kind of a rust bucket but the engine is good. 
> 
> 
> Trampas
> 
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> On Behalf Of Trampas
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car
> 
> I have a 300k mile 300SD I am trying to figure out what to do with. It
runs
> ok, low compression on #2 causing miss at idle, been that way for last
100k
> miles. It has a new AC compressor and the AC works good. Clear coat is
> peeling and there is a dent in the rear bumper. Also one of the window
> tracks broke needs the $5 guide piece from Rusty. 
> 
> I would gladly trade it or sell it if someone was interested. By the way
it
> is in Raleigh NC. 
> 
> Trampas
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:44 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Loan me a Car
> 
> a v6?  did somebody drop a different motor down in that thing or 
> something?  They didnt have a v6 back then.
> 
> Donald Snook wrote:
> 
>> Mac Wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>> "Right now you can't give away a gasser V8 w126 around here."
>>
>>  
>>
>> Well, then I am in luck because the 300SEL is a V6. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Donald H. Snook
>>
>> 1990 200SEL 129K 
>>
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[MBZ] this looks nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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