Re: [MBZ] 123 Dash
Damn! I sold a pretty nice one to John Gregg for $75. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:16:58 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried a 126, but the 107 took a 1 13/16 socket. I took the new one to Sears, and this was the only socket that fit it. I then hadto grind down the outside diameter to get it into the hole - the screem was off-center in the hole in the bottom of the trunk, and wouldn't let the socket get on square enough to turn the screen. For a 123, The sender (on top of the tank, accessable by removing the first aid kit) and the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure 1.804 across the flats. This is 45.82mm and implies one would use a 46mm (1.811) or 1 13/16 (1.813) socket. Craig
[MBZ] Wheel Balancing
What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Thanks friends. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI
[MBZ] SDL clogged radiator update
Ran some water through the block, both normal flow and reverse flow and it had no flecks of orange/red like the radiator. So, I reinstalled the radiator, filled it up with water and drove it for about 15 minutes. I had to work to get the car to reach 60c. When I parked it back at the house, I pulled out the laser thermometer and took temps of the radiator. Here are the temps in C. top left57 top57 top right46 middle left 52 middle 52 middle right 42 bottom left 31 bottom 28 bottom right 25 Seems to me that I can proclaim it nearly all cured of its cloggedness. I might actually try to drive it this week. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
[MBZ] Anyone in Ohio to check car for me?
Anyone near Dublin, Ohio who could check out a car for me, paid of course. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush
I'm not sure how many they had, it was like 4 or 5 more On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:09:46 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know more about this machine as well - On 11/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so do tell, I would like one of these 24 machines maybe. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:41:41 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how many they had, it was like 4 or 5 more I think I'm #2 in line ... Craig
Re: [MBZ] SDL clogged radiator update
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:38:51 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ran some water through the block, both normal flow and reverse flow and it had no flecks of orange/red like the radiator. So, I reinstalled the radiator, filled it up with water and drove it for about 15 minutes. I had to work to get the car to reach 60c. When I parked it back at the house, I pulled out the laser thermometer and took temps of the radiator. Here are the temps in C. top left57 top57 top right46 middle left 52 middle 52 middle right 42 bottom left 31 bottom 28 bottom right 25 Seems to me that I can proclaim it nearly all cured of its cloggedness. The right side still seems to have a little cloggedness affecting it. I might actually try to drive it this week. Make sure you drain out the water and put in antifreeze before it gets cold, or you'll have a lot more than a radiator to worry about ... Craig
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
Craig McCluskey wrote: 1.804 across the flats. This is 45.82mm and implies one would use a 46mm (1.811) or 1 13/16 (1.813) socket. I actually looked it up in a Whitworth table. 1 W is 1.670, 1 1/8 is 1.860, so it looks like the choices you gave are better. The acceptable measure across the flats for a 1 1/8 Whitworth bolt is 1.815 to 1.860, so there's considerable leeway on large fasteners, I doubt .01 loose is a problem.
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
Thanks, but we are talking about the screen in the bottom of the tank. Seems like I bought a socket to remove the sender, wonder if its the same size. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:16:58 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried a 126, but the 107 took a 1 13/16 socket. I took the new one to Sears, and this was the only socket that fit it. I then hadto grind down the outside diameter to get it into the hole - the screem was off-center in the hole in the bottom of the trunk, and wouldn't let the socket get on square enough to turn the screen. For a 123, The sender (on top of the tank, accessable by removing the first aid kit) and the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure 1.804 across the flats. This is 45.82mm and implies one would use a 46mm (1.811) or 1 13/16 (1.813) socket. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Anyone in Ohio to check car for me?
of course - that's my backyard. Mail me offlist. On 11/12/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone near Dublin, Ohio who could check out a car for me, paid of course. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] AD for 1985 300 TD Wagon
If anyone is interestedThis ad is in a paper that circulates in CT. I have not seen the car. dark blue with tan interior, 178,500 mi, pb, pdl, sunroof, air, pw, all power, auto, cruise, CD, workhorse has all the expected options, regular and snows, 8 wheels, and thousands of miles left in it, runs well, exc int, little rust on wheel wells, good bio-diesel option, needs some attention, Call for details, $2000 OBO. (203) 588-0672 (2X) . Stamford, CT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 13 03:09:52 2006 Received: from smtp-in-1.userservices.net ([207.109.251.9]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjSCm-0001hU-3h for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:09:52 + Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in-1.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF21859A886 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: virus free Received: from smtp-in-1.userservices.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-in-1.userservices.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kt8085HnmG+A for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from s3.visp.net (email-inc-3.userservices.net [207.109.251.21]) by smtp-in-1.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7281B59A87C for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-155.cnsp.net [208.3.82.155]) by s3.visp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 02F9A400C4C for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:08:33 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:09:52 - On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:27:08 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but we are talking about the screen in the bottom of the tank. Seems like I bought a socket to remove the sender, wonder if its the same size. And what does: the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure 1.804 across the flats. mean, but the strainer (or screen) in the bottom of the tank? Craig
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:05:03 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The acceptable measure across the flats for a 1 1/8 Whitworth bolt is 1.815 to 1.860, so there's considerable leeway on large fasteners ... That is a large range. I'd hate to try it with a 12-point socket, but a 6-point should be OK. An adjustable spanner would be the best. Craig
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush
OK - deliver Kaleb's and mine to Kaleb's house - I'll pick up mine when I get the wheels for the 107. That's # 3 4 ? On 11/12/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:41:41 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how many they had, it was like 4 or 5 more I think I'm #2 in line ... Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
Ummm - that's what Craig said - on the 123, both are the same size. They are the same in the 107, FWIW. On 11/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but we are talking about the screen in the bottom of the tank. Seems like I bought a socket to remove the sender, wonder if its the same size. Craig McCluskey wrote: For a 123, The sender (on top of the tank, accessable by removing the first aid kit) and the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure 1.804 across the flats. This is 45.82mm and implies one would use a 46mm (1.811) or 1 13/16 (1.813) socket. Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Prestone Flush Fill Machine
uh, I'm gonna have to get by the place and see how many they have in stock. Package size is 27x21x16 and 58lbs according to the manual. My ship zip will be 72901 if you want to check your own shipping. I was wrong in a previous email about the manufacture date. Found a date code of 03/02/94, so it's not that old school On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:19:06 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK - deliver Kaleb's and mine to Kaleb's house - I'll pick up mine when I get the wheels for the 107. That's # 3 4 ? On 11/12/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:41:41 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how many they had, it was like 4 or 5 more I think I'm #2 in line ... Craig -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] Prestone Flush Fill Machine
Luther wrote: I was wrong in a previous email about the manufacture date. Found a date code of 03/02/94, so it's not that old school Introduced 1965, so unless it was redesigned, it's pretty old tech. http://www.honeywell.com/en/carcare/announcement_details.jsp?rowID=22docID=4038catID=4
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] SDL radiator flush
yea, when do you want to get together for them wheels? OK Don wrote: OK - deliver Kaleb's and mine to Kaleb's house - I'll pick up mine when I get the wheels for the 107. That's # 3 4 ? On 11/12/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 18:41:41 -0600 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how many they had, it was like 4 or 5 more I think I'm #2 in line ... Craig -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen
OK, I must have missed that. OK Don wrote: Ummm - that's what Craig said - on the 123, both are the same size. They are the same in the 107, FWIW. On 11/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but we are talking about the screen in the bottom of the tank. Seems like I bought a socket to remove the sender, wonder if its the same size. Craig McCluskey wrote: For a 123, The sender (on top of the tank, accessable by removing the first aid kit) and the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure 1.804 across the flats. This is 45.82mm and implies one would use a 46mm (1.811) or 1 13/16 (1.813) socket. Craig -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
I haven't tried Graspics, but on any other tire incuding Blizzaks, you only get vibration when something is off balance. Usually when a weight falls off, or if you get a buildup of snow, ice, mud, dirt, etc in the wheel. Levi On 11/12/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Thanks friends. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
Levi Smith wrote: I haven't tried Graspics, but on any other tire incuding Blizzaks, you only get vibration when something is off balance. ...or out of round. Or, even harder to detect, a tire has a hard spot but looks OK when you spin it in the air. I'd replace the front tires with the summer tires. If the vibration goes away, put one of the winter tires back on the front. If it doesn't go away, put the summer tires on the back. Shouldn't take too long to figure out which tire(s) cause the problem. The above assumes that your summer tires are still on wheels. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
I didn't have any problem balancing my Graspics. It all boils down to the equipment and user experience. The tire warehouse guys _should_ be using decent equipment and know how to use it well, since they do such a high volume, but that isn't always the case. They will frequently use the cheapest labor they can find, at a high turnover rate. I've gotten so fed up with tire shop experiences that I ultimately bought my own equipment to mount and balance my own tires. It paid for itself in less than a year with the volume I do (would have been quicker had I gotten the equipment before a tire place destroyed a $450 rim). Ultimately, if you are unhappy with the tires and the place you bought them from is the same place that mounted and balanced them, they should be willing to figure out what the problem is. Are you using the same rims that your Goodyears were on? If not, you may have a bad rim that is causing the problem. J.B. At 07:33 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote: What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Thanks friends. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 6:53 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 6:53 PM
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
There should be NO vibration..Take it back and have them rebalance the tires. Sounds like they had someone who was in a hurry and didn't balance a tire right or at all. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing I haven't tried Graspics, but on any other tire incuding Blizzaks, you only get vibration when something is off balance. Usually when a weight falls off, or if you get a buildup of snow, ice, mud, dirt, etc in the wheel. Levi On 11/12/06, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Thanks friends. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
I agree with checking it out but make the tire shop do it while you supervise...They owe you one. Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing Levi Smith wrote: I haven't tried Graspics, but on any other tire incuding Blizzaks, you only get vibration when something is off balance. ...or out of round. Or, even harder to detect, a tire has a hard spot but looks OK when you spin it in the air. I'd replace the front tires with the summer tires. If the vibration goes away, put one of the winter tires back on the front. If it doesn't go away, put the summer tires on the back. Shouldn't take too long to figure out which tire(s) cause the problem. The above assumes that your summer tires are still on wheels. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 380sel opinions
My brother is looking at an 82 380sel with approx 200K with timing chain replaced by independent MB shop. In general, what are pros and cons/big worries on that engine? TIA Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
Thanks for all the input. They are mounted on the same rims the Goodyears were on. I should say that when I bought the Goodyears, the original installer couldn't get it right- they always vibrated. But when the car was at the MB dealership for something else, I asked them to balance them, which they did, free of charge. Guess what? They solved it. I'm thinking that I need to bring it to the MB dealership- the tire stores might not have the quality of employee willing to do it correctly. John Peterson J.B. Hebert wrote: I didn't have any problem balancing my Graspics. It all boils down to the equipment and user experience. The tire warehouse guys _should_ be using decent equipment and know how to use it well, since they do such a high volume, but that isn't always the case. They will frequently use the cheapest labor they can find, at a high turnover rate. I've gotten so fed up with tire shop experiences that I ultimately bought my own equipment to mount and balance my own tires. It paid for itself in less than a year with the volume I do (would have been quicker had I gotten the equipment before a tire place destroyed a $450 rim). Ultimately, if you are unhappy with the tires and the place you bought them from is the same place that mounted and balanced them, they should be willing to figure out what the problem is. Are you using the same rims that your Goodyears were on? If not, you may have a bad rim that is causing the problem. J.B. At 07:33 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote: What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Thanks friends. John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 6:53 PM
Re: [MBZ] 380sel opinions
Great car as long as the timing chain was updated to the 2-row type. If not then plan for replacement avery 100,000 miles. Original Message From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/13/06 10:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 380sel opinions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= My brother is looking at an 82 380sel with approx 200K with timing chain replaced by independent MB shop. In general, what are pros and cons/big worries on that engine? TIA Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wheel Balancing
In a message dated 11/12/2006 5:32:46 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What experience are you having with wheel balancing- I brought my 300D in for snow tires and they put 4 Dunlop Graspics on the car. The car, in nice weather, has Goodyear Triple Treads. When the Goodyears were on the car, there was absolutely NO vibration in the steering wheel. With the Graspics, it is notible at 45 MPH and annoying at 60 MPH. The Goodyears were balanced by the MB dealership and the Graspics by a tire warehouse. Anyone had experience with this- the Graspics are snow tires- should I expect vibration? Being balanced, they could still be out of round, and the vibration could actually be more severe at 45 than 65. First thing I would do is look to see if they mounted the tires with the colored dot aligned with the wheel's tire valve. This is supposed to get the heaviest part of the tire opposite the heaviest part of the wheel. If they didn't do that, you got a rookie tire person, and a bad supervisor. Along with this, I would not accept a balanced wheel with more than 2 ounces of weights on it. Either get another tire or move the tire on the wheel to a position that requires less weights The road force balancing method is supposed one of the best methods but will cost you about $70 at say Discount Tire. regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
[MBZ] Brake Rotors Pads
HI; I just buy the Lifetime guaranteed rotors ($29-$32) rotors; Lifetime pads about $13 a set; yes the rotors are thicker made in Germany Steve
[MBZ] tank screen sending unit tool 300D, 240D
Hi; i took a CHEAP 3/4 IN. drive socket 1 7/8; put on grinder to take off angle, so it will be flat not slip off thin filter nut; maybe a person could find a perfect fitting metric socket, but mine works VERY good, didn't have to buy another one; workes on tank filter sending unit Steve
[MBZ] 300D radio on off problem
HI; anyone, ever had a radio problem; that on bumpy roads or when hitting side of console radio goes on off; i checked for fuses, loose connections bad solder joints on circuit boards; tape player had brokem rubber, but don't use anyway; maybe front panel has short or buttons bouncing around;;have diagram of front panel, but need to build up my confidence to open up HA! HA!; just use radio for my satalite radio only anyway; any advise would be greatly appreciated Steve
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 300D radio on off problem
Me too but I'm no help as I have not yet looked at it. Just works sometimes and as you say, go over railway tracks or something similar and off it goes. I assumed it had to be something simple and intended just to replace the whole radio with a new cd player type. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen D Murrell Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:52 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 300D radio on off problem HI; anyone, ever had a radio problem; that on bumpy roads or when hitting side of console radio goes on off; i checked for fuses, loose connections bad solder joints on circuit boards; tape player had brokem rubber, but don't use anyway; maybe front panel has short or buttons bouncing around;;have diagram of front panel, but need to build up my confidence to open up HA! HA!; just use radio for my satalite radio only anyway; any advise would be greatly appreciated Steve ___
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall --
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
When your car starts having less power. The first time I experienced it with my 83' 300D, the top speed on the highway dropped to around 65mph, and trying to climb hills was at a significantly reduced speed. Levi On 11/13/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D radio on off problem
It is really simple to get at, pull out the ashtray, knobs, and it sorta becomes obvious (there are a couple of plates with screws that hold the unit in the mount). The wires are not very substantial, probably wore off some insulation or the connector is loose. If you get in there, it is probably worth throwing in a new unit (even a cheap one will be infinitely better than the original), with CD player, aux inputs, 4 spkr wires to bypass the fader, new power wire, etc, and some new speakers. It is a DIN mount, so a new unit slides right in. This is not a hard or time-consuming job, few tools reqd, and I think you would really enjoy the results. Keep the old unit if you ever want a period piece back in the car. --R R A Bennell wrote: Me too but I'm no help as I have not yet looked at it. Just works sometimes and as you say, go over railway tracks or something similar and off it goes. I assumed it had to be something simple and intended just to replace the whole radio with a new cd player type. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen D Murrell Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:52 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 300D radio on off problem HI; anyone, ever had a radio problem; that on bumpy roads or when hitting side of console radio goes on off; i checked for fuses, loose connections bad solder joints on circuit boards; tape player had brokem rubber, but don't use anyway; maybe front panel has short or buttons bouncing around;;have diagram of front panel, but need to build up my confidence to open up HA! HA!; just use radio for my satalite radio only anyway; any advise would be greatly appreciated Steve ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
Yes-even on my 240D I could feel the loss of power-esp. under load. (Imagine that.) I have also been able to see the little black flecks in the clear inline filters-less so in the translucent ones. On my 300D 2.5t it started to miss at speed-just before the turbo kicked on. Marshall is right-change as needed-but I carry some spares in the trunk of both of mine. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy 0-60 acceleration time increases, top speed decreases, fuel consumption USUALLY increases (doesn't seem logical does it?) and you have shift sooner to get up hills. If changing the filter remedies all the problems, then you had a clogged filter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
How sudden should I expect the onset? As we all know, these old cars are not too speedy to begin with. I might not notice unless it becomes fairly obvious. This is a 76 115 300D that I am referring to. I have had it 2 summers now and have yet to change fuel filters. I bought some and have one in the trunk but have yet to install one. I got some of the clear inline prefilters too but my car does not appear to have one installed at this time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy 0-60 acceleration time increases, top speed decreases, fuel consumption USUALLY increases (doesn't seem logical does it?) and you have shift sooner to get up hills. If changing the filter remedies all the problems, then you had a clogged filter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotors Pads
Where do I get those rotors? Made in Germany for that little money? Where??? John Peterson Stephen D Murrell wrote: HI; I just buy the Lifetime guaranteed rotors ($29-$32) rotors; Lifetime pads about $13 a set; yes the rotors are thicker made in Germany Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2 Studded Snow Tires (P197/70 R 14) $40
Walt Lasher wrote: Snow Tires for Sale: 2 studded snow tires for sale Cooper Weather master S/T P197/70 R 14 M/S Tires have 96% original tread almost new. These were off my W126 Walt Lasher Seattle ’92 S350 W140 When were the tires purchased new? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
They can slowly reduce in power overtime, or reduce suddenly. I have had several diesels get massive increases in power after filter changes, when I had never realized they were slowing down. Usually you will notice a serious reduction, and difficulty climbing even mild grades. I always carry spare filters, and the tools to change them when driving any diesel vehicle anywhere. If you are in doubt, change them now and stop worrying about it. It's easy and cheap to do, and then you can keep around the old filters that still flow as emergency spares! Tyler How sudden should I expect the onset? As we all know, these old cars are not too speedy to begin with. I might not notice unless it becomes fairly obvious. This is a 76 115 300D that I am referring to. I have had it 2 summers now and have yet to change fuel filters. I bought some and have one in the trunk but have yet to install one. I got some of the clear inline prefilters too but my car does not appear to have one installed at this time. Randy
Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotors Pads
They cannot be much thicker or the pads won't go in! Peter
Re: [MBZ] 2 Studded Snow Tires (P197/70 R 14) $40
Good tires, shipping is a killer. Almost purchased them myself a year ago. On 11/13/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt Lasher wrote: Snow Tires for Sale: 2 studded snow tires for sale Cooper Weather master S/T P197/70 R 14 M/S Tires have 96% original tread almost new. These were off my W126 Walt Lasher Seattle '92 S350 W140 When were the tires purchased new? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish.
Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotors Pads
Brembo makes numerous aftermarket rotors for almost every foreign car on the market. And.. they are just as good if not better than factory. cheaper too. Both my 280 and VW have Brembos on them and they were less than $50 a piece Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotors Pads Where do I get those rotors? Made in Germany for that little money? Where??? John Peterson Stephen D Murrell wrote: HI; I just buy the Lifetime guaranteed rotors ($29-$32) rotors; Lifetime pads about $13 a set; yes the rotors are thicker made in Germany Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
