Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Me thinks you'd better watch the last 30 seconds of each auction... And as far as the Japanese version is concerned, although it may be region free as far as playing DVD's, I'm pretty sure the displayed signal is in PAL format and not the U.S. standard NTSC. Tarek P.S. trim your posts guy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation You're serious, aren't you. Who the hell is going to pay 5k for a games console? Especially seeing I could buy a 3 for a lot less http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7 _W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7 _W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I suppose there are parents out there that think if their kid is not the first one on the block with a 3 they will be emotionally scared for life. I will in a couple of years time upgrade but not while it is still that expensive. Me thinks you better do your homework again, most 3's on ebay are selling for around US$2000 http://video-games.search.ebay.com/playstation-3_Systems_W0QQsacatZ62054 - Original Message - From: Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation It wasn't a stampede at all. It was pretty well organized, with a list and an hourly roll call. The Best Buy I've been camping at since Tuesday afternoon was guaranteed at least 26 total and ended up with 34; 25 of which were the premium 60GB editions. In retrospect, it was well worth enduring the pouring rain and extreme cold. Anyone seriously interested please contact me off-list. I have 3 60GB and 2 20GB, ready to ship. All of them include the unreleased Talladega Nights DVD in the new Blu-Ray format for true 1080p resolution. You can see for yourselves what these are currently going for on eBay. Keep in mind that most of the Playstation consoles currently on eBay aren't even actual consoles. Most people are simply selling their pre-sale tickets; 60% of which have no Playstation to back the ticket. All of the Gamespot participating stores (e.g. EB Games) which did pre-orders received a lot less than originally expected. Thus, many of the pre-sale tickets being sold on eBay for around $4,000 are simply rain checks for units being released well into 1st quarter 2007. $5,000 and it's yours. Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Why not wait till next year when they are a couple hundred? All these game consoles drop 70% in cost and then become obsolete. Will you really have fond memories a decade from now from having a PS3 in 2006 vs 2007? Here I am defending nice MB's that cost $5k that some folks think is overspending- To lose money on new car depreciation is one thing, this is just insane. When status overides sense this bad, there is something wrong. I mean, free market is free market, I don't want to limit it. If anyone buys one of these at 1000% mark-up, it's sad they are so stupid with their money, and kinda sleazy to take advantage of them. I'm surprised any outcry took this long... It's a matter of priorities though, the most expensive car is supposed to be the $10,000,000 Bugatti Royale, a fractional bargain comapared to many, many fine paintings you can't drive, take folks for rides in, touch, tinker with, and I couldn't give half a rat's butt about. Any $1000+ article of clothing that doesn't keep you alive somehow or from decompression is pretty dumb in my book too. And what the hell is the deal with shiny rocks that cost tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars... (Sorry) Gee wiz. Vince You're serious, aren't you. Who the hell is going to pay 5k for a games console? Especially seeing I could buy a 3 for a lot less http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7_W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7_W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I suppose there are parents out there that think if their kid is not the first one on the block with a 3 they will be emotionally scared for life. I will in a couple of years time upgrade but not while it is still that expensive. Me thinks you better do your homework again, most 3's on ebay are selling for around US$2000 http://video-games.search.ebay.com/playstation-3_Systems_W0QQsacatZ62054 - Original Message - From: Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation It wasn't a stampede at all. It was pretty well organized, with a list and an hourly roll call. The Best Buy I've been camping at since Tuesday afternoon was guaranteed at least 26 total and ended up with 34; 25 of which were the premium 60GB editions. In retrospect, it was well worth enduring the pouring rain and extreme cold. Anyone seriously interested please contact me off-list. I have 3 60GB and 2 20GB, ready to ship. All of them include the unreleased Talladega Nights DVD in the new Blu-Ray format for true 1080p resolution. You can see for yourselves what these are currently going for on eBay. Keep in mind that most of the Playstation consoles currently on eBay aren't even actual consoles. Most people are simply selling their pre-sale tickets; 60% of which have no Playstation to back the ticket. All of the Gamespot participating stores (e.g. EB Games) which did pre-orders received a lot less than originally expected. Thus, many of the pre-sale tickets being sold on eBay for around $4,000 are simply rain checks for units being released well into 1st quarter 2007. $5,000 and it's yours. Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG
Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Conclusion: Vince has not had much consort with the fairer gender. --R V Layton wrote: And what the hell is the deal with shiny rocks that cost tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars... (Sorry) Gee wiz. Vince
[MBZ] Creaky Chasis
Hello Friends! To add to my list of recent noises and annoyances with my 300D, it is now creaking when the car rolls to the left or right when on a curve or starting out and turning the wheel sharply. Any test to find the culprit? It doesn't do it if the car is parked, of course. I have no lift, but is there anything I can check? It is a 1991 300D 2.5 with 84k. I guess a year of Rhode Island rhodes did the rubber in. John Peterson
Re: [MBZ] Creaky Chasis
Ball joints are shot. Replace both. You likely need new links and subframe mounts in the rear as well. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Creaky Chasis
Ok, do I change the whole assembly or just the joints? Thanks for the quick diagnosis! I had feared the ball joints! Peter Frederick wrote: Ball joints are shot. Replace both. You likely need new links and subframe mounts in the rear as well. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Turbo Diesel start gear; Auto Transmission
Hi; I don't want to start a trans. start trread again; i have a book here; Mercedes Benz. Technical Companion:with items taken from M.B.C.A. , the Star magazine (wich can be purchased from some parts sellers on internet; Maybe Rusty?) it has a page Automatic Transmission Standing Starting Modes it lists from 50- 90 on; i you need specs. a certain car; i will let you know what the Book says; i have 3 M.B. diesels this book is correct for them also correct for What Kaleb said !!! ( sometimes they shift so fast , it's hard to tell?) Steve
Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Conclusion: Vince has not had much consort with the fairer gender. --R Nope. Married my 3rd girlfriend. (Been with her for 12 years) She didn't agree to it for the $600 custom diamond wedding ring I had made from the most reputable jewler in St. Louis. The 4 diamonds are pretty puny though! Cheers Vince _ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Agreed - if it won't go fast, or take really sharp pictures, it isn't worth a lot of money! It's a matter of priorities though, the most expensive car is supposed to be the $10,000,000 Bugatti Royale, a fractional bargain comapared to many, many fine paintings you can't drive, take folks for rides in, touch, tinker with, and I couldn't give half a rat's butt about. Any $1000+ article of clothing that doesn't keep you alive somehow or from decompression is pretty dumb in my book too. And what the hell is the deal with shiny rocks that cost tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars... (Sorry) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Diesel Altinator problems? 85 D turbo
problem with alt. light coming on; changed the volt. reg., worked about 1 day; so the mech. changed the alt.def.; next alt. def.; 3rd alt. def.; young mech. said he found what was drawing the battery down; a SHORT in Radio; i said the radio always pulls some LIGHT SMALL current for clock memory; he removed clock had Battery checked, NO GOOD BATTERY; bought a NEW BATTERY NO PROBLEM EVER SINCE many years ago my brothers Volvo kept needing new alt.; after changeing 3; bought a new Battery no more problems??? Steve
Re: [MBZ] Creaky Chasis
Depends -- have an alignment shop check the lower control arm bushings. If they are bad, it's cheaper to replace the lower control arm complete -- it comes with a new ball joint. If they are good, the ball joint presses out easily (the Harbor Freight tool and some spacers). They are directional -- there is a notch in the base, it must point toward the centerline of the car. Note that turning the wheels makes the bad ball joint squeal. If you are getting a creak from the REAR on body roll, you need to replace the thrust and torque links back there -- will also cause excessive noise under the rear seat and torque steer. Peter
[MBZ] 73 220D $250
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/235055021.html Somebody get this before I go and do something stupid -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
i have correct wheel alignment on my 300SE/90 yet it pulls to the right . earlier on all the worn parts were replaced to the point that all the consumables are new . anyone experince this odd sutuation? mak
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D $250
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would, buy my fiancee would kill me. We already have 3 more cars then the one our apartment complex allows That looks like it's in good shape from the pictures, I wonder what sort of work it needs. Tyler On Nov 17, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/235055021.html Somebody get this before I go and do something stupid -- Clay Seattle Bioburner -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFXrtEt178NxI/higRAnxkAKCSVD/v08GsRNJeQbkcRZDoT7uuEACgnFYo Vce+3yrmQxjRVoqyJ/me6Vc= =+NyQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D $250
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/235055021.html Somebody get this before I go and do something stupid _Really_ stupid. That's a gasser, innit? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
i have correct wheel alignment on my 300SE/90 yet it pulls to the right . earlier on all the worn parts were replaced to the point that all the consumables are new . Well, on the face of it it _isn't_ in alignment. Try swapping the tires from side to side, but I doubt that'll make any difference. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust
Question: Is too low an idle ALWAYS the idle adjust screw or could it Yup, I think so. be the throttle linkages? (or both)? What do you adjust the linkages for? For WOT. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] I love 115's
This fan on this works but only one speed. Is that the infamous probably the switch thing I always get or sign of something more.We will see... If it works at all it probably isn't the motor. But the switch and/or resistor pack could be at fault, and both are diagnosable. The plug on the firewall goes to the resistor pack, and thence to the motor. Easy to ohm out. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D $250
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 diesel On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/235055021.html Somebody get this before I go and do something stupid _Really_ stupid. That's a gasser, innit? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFXs4dt178NxI/higRAmQSAJ4oHDGgpgNWwrgX1r5coGf6OfMXwACfaZsr RhctE3Yy4dqv0kzTrYHtNrQ= =e19I -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
Jim Cathey wrote: Well, on the face of it it _isn't_ in alignment. Try swapping the tires from side to side, but I doubt that'll make any difference. Sounds like either the road is crowned (higher in the center) or the alignment has more caster on one side than the other. Tires and brakes are possible too. I forget, does the steering gearbox have a self-centering tendency? Is so, and if it isn't centered when you are going straight, it will want to find its natural center. Did this start happening after it was aligned? There is a screw in the gearbox that the mechanic is supposed to remove and replace with a longer, pointed screw to lock the gearbox in its center position while the wheels are aligned. Mechanics in the USA get this part wrong a lot of the time, I'm not sure if they do it better in Pakistan. Mitch.
[MBZ] cnn article on diesel
Hello All, I saw this article on CNN on diesel, should interest this group. Mercedes, GM, even Honda, is betting on a new breed of green diesels. The goal? To leave hybrids in the dust. http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/ 2006/10/16/8390259/index.htm Regards, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 100kmi From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 18 16:15:44 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.191]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlSr2-0006xD-LL for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:15:44 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1842239nfe for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.170.17 with SMTP id s17mr3295530hue.1163866431442; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.156.10 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:13:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:13:51 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love 115's X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:15:45 - On 11/18/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it works at all it probably isn't the motor. But the switch and/or resistor pack could be at fault, and both are diagnosable. The plug on the firewall goes to the resistor pack, and thence to the motor. Easy to ohm out. Don't you mean ohm in on? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
[MBZ] Radiator Leaks
When a radiator starts leaking along the top seam right below the hose nozzle... I suppose it's time to get a new one, right? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 163K '87 Acura Legend 179K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 18 16:39:55 2006 Received: from postal.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.12] helo=mail.windwireless.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlTER-0007g2-Ex for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:39:55 + Received: from windwireless.net (unverified [206.63.94.197]) by windwireless.net (WindPostal) with ESMTP id 681148 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:44:02 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:38:00 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-412260344 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:39:55 - When a radiator starts leaking along the top seam right below the hose nozzle... I suppose it's time to get a new one, right? Ayup. Especially if it's plastic/aluminum. You can usually get the brass ones recored locally, potentially saving some money. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks
That Valeo one Rusty sells...I imagine it's plastic/aluminum, right? Bob - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks When a radiator starts leaking along the top seam right below the hose nozzle... I suppose it's time to get a new one, right? Ayup. Especially if it's plastic/aluminum. You can usually get the brass ones recored locally, potentially saving some money. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:52:55 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Valeo one Rusty sells...I imagine it's plastic/aluminum, right? Yes. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks
Well I just put my order in...looks like I'll have something to do on my days off next week. Bob - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:52:55 -0700 Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Valeo one Rusty sells...I imagine it's plastic/aluminum, right? Yes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O.T. Acura Steering Rack..DIY?
The wife's '87 Legend's steering rack is leaking internally, I guess, and the fluid spews out when she turns right. Do you suppose changing out this rack is a DIY evolution? Stealership says $1100 to do it... One of the Dons had an Acura...ever mess with this? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 163K '87 Acura Legend 179K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 18 17:35:50 2006 Received: from isb.comsats.net.pk ([210.56.8.10]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlU6X-00015l-II for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:35:50 + Received: from yasir056e893f7 ([210.56.29.224]) by isb.comsats.net.pk with SMTP id kAIHXgEP001010 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:33:42 +0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:32:44 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.2, clamav-milter version 0.88.2 on isb.comsats.net.pk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 17:35:50 - Mitch Thanks for the input. We drive on the left side of the road. Wherever the roads are crowned the car does stay straight otherwise it drifts off to the right rapidly, like on the level motorways. swapping tires L to R made no difference. As you have mentioned I will recheck the centering of the steering box + alignment using the special pin made. The alignment shop is keen to assist, failing this I will try the main Mercedes agents. Thanks mak - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Cathey wrote: Well, on the face of it _isn't_ in alignment. Try swapping the tires from side to side, but I doubt that'll make any difference. Sounds like either the road is crowned (higher in the center) or the alignment has more caster on one side than the other. Tires and brakes are possible too. I forget, does the steering gearbox have a self-centering tendency? Is so, and if it isn't centered when you are going straight, it will want to find its natural center. Did this start happening after it was aligned? There is a screw in the gearbox that the mechanic is supposed to remove and replace with a longer, pointed screw to lock the gearbox in its center position while the wheels are aligned. Mechanics in the USA get this part wrong a lot of the time, I'm not sure if they do it better in Pakistan. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.7/537 - Release Date: 11/17/2006
Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust
Jim Cathey wrote: Question: Is too low an idle ALWAYS the idle adjust screw or could it Yup, I think so. be the throttle linkages? (or both)? What do you adjust the linkages for? For WOT. Linkage won't result in too low idle if the idle screw is properly set (but CAN result in too high idle). OM617.95 engine idle is adjusted with the idle screw and all other adjustments should allow that. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
Mak, Definitely cross rotate the front tires. I have found that the tires will take a set and wear just enough to make the car pull to the right. Cross Rotating at every oil change, 4 to 6K, is the answer. Now someone will no doubt chime in and say that you shouldn't cross rotate radial tires. This hasn't been true for about 10 years, unless you have unidirectionals with the arrows on the side. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
[MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE
Why not wait a few months and get it a regular price and save yourself $4500? Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350
Re: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE
Someone needs to invent the game, Job Tasks/PMs on Your W123 showing some top-notch wrech performing various tasks with a small inset of Herr Doktor talking through what is going on. I'd be right there in line Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: [MBZ] PLAYSTATION 3 FOR SALE Why not wait a few months and get it a regular price and save yourself $4500? Walt Lasher Seattle W140 S350 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RDB color, idle screw and throttle link. adjust
On 11/17/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or you can buy the CD from Mercedes for less than $20! http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=Retailcategory%5Fname=1009%28ClassicTechLit%29product%5Fid=QL%2D6516%2D5610%2D02%28ClassicTechLit%29 Marshall Sheesh! When did that happen? They used to be $100 apiece. No point in trying to sell the 107 one I never use on eBay now. :( Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] Radiator Leaks
Copper brass rad, probably the solder is gone, time for a rod out and re-solder. Plastic/aluminum, time for a new one. Copper/brass radiators are available for W123 chassis cars, you may want to get one. Peter
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mak, Definitely cross rotate the front tires. I have found that the tires will take a set and wear just enough to make the car pull to the right. Cross Rotating at every oil change, 4 to 6K, is the answer. Now someone will no doubt chime in and say that you shouldn't cross rotate radial tires. This hasn't been true for about 10 years, unless you have unidirectionals with the arrows on the side. While in theory cross rotating modern radial tires should cause no problems, that's NOT true if anything else is wrong and if you don't do it quite frequently. DON'T do it with older tires and if the belts have started to slip (will usually happen after ~7.5-10kmi) or you have made a really SERIOUS panic stop or two. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
Check the upper control arm ball joint for play -- if it's bad, the tire will lean, causing the camber to be off. This will cause the car to drift, and the upper ball joint goes first. It's easy to replace. The lowers should be checked as well, along with condition of the lower control arm bushings. Nothing is adjustable here, if the caster or camber is off, something has to be replaced. You should also check the brake support rod aka track rod inner bushing up on the firewall. If this is bad, not only does it groan on large bumps (speed bumps and the like) or thump when shifting into reverse with the brakes on, but will allow the control arm to move back under pressure. this causes the tire to lead out. Finally, verify that you have good tie rod ends, drag link ends, idler arm bushing (there should be NO up and down movement on the idler arm) and a good steering damper. Peter
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
M.Afzaal.Khan wrote: i have correct wheel alignment on my 300SE/90 yet it pulls to the right . earlier on all the worn parts were replaced to the point that all the consumables are new . anyone experince this odd sutuation? Then it ISN'T in proper alignment (even if someone seat it to spec under static condions). Usually something is bent or worn. Also usually someone set the alignment without using the spreader bar and/or without checking the wear on every steering and suspension element (you can't align a car when any part of the system is worn beyond the allowed tolerance, but few except experienced Mercedes technicians know what elements are most critical). Occasionally a bad tire CAN cause the problem and repalcing that tire MIGHT correct the problem. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126
A slight drag to one side can very easily be a tire, but swapping it side to side will cause the pull to switch, too. Usually happens because the belts are coming loose and the tire is bigger on one side than the other at speed --- a hint that new tires are required. I've had this happen -- when I replaced the tires due to excessive wear on one side of the tread, the problem (and the wear) vanished Peter
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D $250
Transmission and somebody to go over it and do all the deferred maintenance under the hood. Probably redo the rubber bits and drive it like they stole it. On Nov 17, 2006, at 11:50 PM, Tyler Backman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would, buy my fiancee would kill me. We already have 3 more cars then the one our apartment complex allows That looks like it's in good shape from the pictures, I wonder what sort of work it needs. Tyler On Nov 17, 2006, at 10:47 PM, Redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/235055021.html Somebody get this before I go and do something stupid -- Clay Seattle Bioburner -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFXrtEt178NxI/higRAnxkAKCSVD/v08GsRNJeQbkcRZDoT7uuEACgnFYo Vce+3yrmQxjRVoqyJ/me6Vc= =+NyQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D $250
Would be a gasser, since the 73 diesel was supposed to be a 240D. Has that SD for sale though. Make a two for one deal and get parts for lots of car. On Nov 18, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/235055021.html Somebody get this before I go and do something stupid _Really_ stupid. That's a gasser, innit? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 73 220D $250
Redghost wrote: Would be a gasser, since the 73 diesel was supposed to be a 240D. Has that SD for sale though. Make a two for one deal and get parts for lots of car. 1975 300SD? Perhaps he means 1979? Sometimes I think I'd like a 1972 300SD, the W108 chassis is kinda classy. Not taking on any more projects until I have a real garage, and my project 190D intercooled is roadworthy. I let 2006 go by without building that car, I had most of the pieces back in January. This would be a nice garage: http://www.menards.com/featuredProjects.do?page=0dispatch=showOneGaragecode=1950993 Or this one would be tall enough for a two post hoist: http://www.menards.com/featuredProjects.do?page=0dispatch=showOnePostFramecode=1904000
[MBZ] new SDL head
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/M-Benz-cyllinder-head-300-SDL_W0QQitemZ320050620207QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33617QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 18 21:38:46 2006 Received: from smtp-out2.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net ([70.43.63.19] helo=smtp02.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1GlXtc-0008Nn-Ew; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:38:45 + Received: from TP730006 (209.248.238.162.nw.nuvox.net [209.248.238.162]) by smtp02.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id kAILamJa009795; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 15:36:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] cheap 115 with NEW heater fan X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:38:50 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-MERCEDES-300D-CLASSIC-GREAT-MPG-LOW-COST-AUTO_W0QQitemZ320050697743QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 18 22:57:22 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GlZ7i-0002RD-FT for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:57:22 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1932574nfe for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:55:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr396248buc.1163890527629; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.125.5 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:55:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:55:27 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] pulling to the righ t 126 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:57:24 - As someone pointed out earlier, a dragging brake can also cause a pull to one side or the other. Either a stuck piston or a swelling flexible brake line can be the cause. A disk or brake that is hotter on the right side of the car is your clue. On 11/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A slight drag to one side can very easily be a tire, but swapping it side to side will cause the pull to switch, too. Usually happens because the belts are coming loose and the tire is bigger on one side than the other at speed --- a hint that new tires are required. I've had this happen -- when I replaced the tires due to excessive wear on one side of the tread, the problem (and the wear) vanished Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] cheap 115 with NEW heater fan
Looks like they went in through the speaker grill -- must have been someone reading this list! On 11/18/06, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300D-MERCEDES-300D-CLASSIC-GREAT-MPG-LOW-COST-AUTO_W0QQitemZ320050697743QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Classic technical literature
http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/default.asp?catalog%5Fname=Retail Lots of good stuff here - even just reading down the list of models, seeing all those neat cars that didn't make it to this side of the pond, is interesting (170V pick-up, 300D Turbo 4-Matic). The technical data books look interesting - anyone have one? Would you write up a description of what's in it? Santa might do some shopping here this year -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] part number for gold PIN (aka new rack damper bolt)
you got ripped off. Christopher McCann wrote: Wow - that is exactly what the ticket says when the Indie upgraded mine...but mine is silver! Time for a talk with Emery. I better polish it good first to make absolutely certain it is silver and not dirty goldish sorta silvery. It was all the way in and if a gold bolt is all the way in to run right, the IP is nearly shot and that is not a good thing. CM THANKS RUSTY! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
