Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 13, Issue 101
Sure is. We're right in the middle of it (1 pm). Euan Euan, Is it Boxing Day there now? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852
[MBZ] For all the Flyers on both MB lists...!
Sure, anybody with a $500 PC and a piece of $500 software could do all that too. The tricky bit for them would be the film matchback. If it was all on video thats, as we say wicked easy. I work for Avid, we make the stuff that makes the movies. -Curt Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 08:42:48 -1000 From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] For all the Flyers on both MB lists...! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Greetings all ... What with all the discussion about Apple vis-a-vis PC's, I took a look at some of the stuff on the Apple website and came across this. It's a movie about flying- OneSixRight.. The producer made it using off the shelf Mac/Apple stuff.. But, that's not important __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 26 03:06:04 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.152]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gz2dg-zo-Jz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 03:06:04 + Received: from happy.home (c-71-206-51-108.hsd1.md.comcast.net[71.206.51.108]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id 20061226030318m1200sptm7e; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 03:03:28 + Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 22:03:17 -0500 (EST) From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate fun X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 03:06:04 - I am soon to be parting with a state issued license plate on my 1991 cherokee (It is taking on water every time it rains and the engine is long in the tooth from the sounds of it, and I just don't have the time for a project jeep... so its keep the 1985 300d or the 1991 jeep so... out with the jeep :( :( ... anyhow, the plate is (maryland) M272727 (I kid you not, and it was state issued).. so by the end of January, I will be MB only (1985 300d, 1999 E300Dt (x2)) -j.
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
As for geekiness? Virginia tag TCL TK I $hit you not. Seen it more than once on a wrangler in the reston area. -j.
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, LarryT wrote: Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped headlights - in a coupe form. It's really a beautiful car IMHO., Hows that different from a 208 (?) CL320 -j.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 13, Issue 101
Enjoy-not sure what the proper greeting is for Boxing Day. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 7:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 13, Issue 101 Sure is. We're right in the middle of it (1 pm). Euan Euan, Is it Boxing Day there now? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas to ALL
Thanks Bob, well said. And to you and yours. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 12:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas to ALL Merry Christmas all you diesel smellin', wrench twistin', old car drivin', money savin', new car loathin', bio burnin', mity vac squeezin', EPC readin', ACC servo cussin', one key on your keychain usin', fuse changin', oil thread readin', Herr Doktor advice heedin', Italian tune-upin' idea swappin', opinion sharin', bunch of basically nice and good humans. Hope you and yours are safe and well. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas to ALL Right back at ya!! Marshall Booth wrote: Merry Christmas to ALL -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy
Thanks Larry for the wishes and poetry-only one problem with your line up-as you well know it's the 240D bringing up the rear. All I know about 124's I learned from my 300D the last year-same one you have. I really like it although I am not sure about ACC-either operator error corrected by RTFM or may need work. Not tonight's worry. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 2:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy Hi Dwight, My mistake - here's the eBay no. 160064882475 - I was under the impression it was a newer 320CLK - but you're right - it appears to be a W124 Coupe - I think it's the tail end of the W124 line - all the bugs are hopefully worked out - although IMHO, there were few bugs to begin with. In which case I'm even more inclined to recommend he seriouly consider it - it's in very good condition has low miles - which is the reason for the premium price. I'm not hearing any problem areas - either there aren';t any or everone's eating Christmas turkey ham or opening and playing with gifts. And to all a good niight -- on dasher and dancer comet blitzen, on 240D's and 300D's and a Maybach in the leadwith a 300D Turbo bringing up the rear --- it's another Magic Night celebrating the birth of Christ - ;-) Dwight wrote:My 90 is NEW for me I agree with you Dwight - my '91 seems like it was just built!! 15 years old is as new as I need! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy That's OK Larry-I have seen them-I get confused in the 94/95 transition years-beyond my experience. My 90 is NEW for me. I agree it is a very nice coupe. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy Hi Dwight - It's more like the later E Class with the dual eggshaped headlights - in a coupe form. It's really a beautiful car IMHO., I'll try to find a photo for you - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy Larry-is that a 124 like the 300CE? Merry Christmas to you. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 5:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 95 E320 Coupe Possible Buy A friend is cosidering a low mileage E320 Coupe - it doesn't leak which is evidently a common problem - anyway - any things to bite him? Thx - Merry Christmas - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/601 - Release Date: 12/24/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Marine Diesel - Westerbeke
Owner said low oil pressure after twenty minutes of operation engine 1978 never rebuild What are the possible causes of low oil pressure AFTER 20 minutes operation . TIA Bill 1981 300 TD
Re: [MBZ] [OT] dental surgery (was: 190D pics)
Merry Christmas all! I've been wondering if there were any responses on this post, but haven't had access to computer (at the in-laws house in IN for a few days). Man, very interesting stuff - I feel much better about my rather benign problem of a couple lower wisdom teeth. I'd like to respond to some of the responses on teeth - please read if interested: *David wrote: Is there any reason why pulling them now would be better than doing it later?* (snip) David, I've been told that the roots can continue to grow longer, and thus closer to problem areas like the nerve that runs around the jawline. Or in the case of uppers, get closer to the sinuses. (I'm just dealing with two lower). *David wrote*: *I don't remember anything from the time they put the IV in until I was getting out my credit card to pay for the procedure* (snip) Same here. I was not told that I'd be drugged in that manner. I thought I'd be perfectly aware, just numb. I woke up sort of knowing the procedure was done (probably because they told me so) and it took numerous minutes and hours before it began to set in that some time had passed. *Curt wrote: Why are the lower ones more risky? The upper ones can allow a hole into your sinuses which is no fun. A friend of mine had that and was laid up for a week or two over it. I had 4 pulled when I was 21, no impaction to speak of. I could have driven home except we had to stop so I could throw up. They gave me all 4 teeth in a little baggie. * Curt, I know the upper ones can get into the sinuses, but I thought that the risk of the lower roots getting onto or around the lower jaw area risked permanent numbness, and I wonder, maybe worse (like paralysis, i.e. drooping lip, etc.). My dentists says that the latter stuff doesn't happen. I've also heard horror stories of broken jaws. My surgeon at the said he had not broken a jaw in several years. And yes, I wish I'd gotten my teeth returned to me when I had the uppers taken out, but they just disposed of them without asking me. *Waylon wrote: A wisdom tooth without an opposing tooth WILL become erupted. Just had upper roots and lower wisdom CUT out. Upper broke, lower would not stop growing. I turn 38 in January. NEVER had a problem until recently.* ** Yes, I've heard this - that if an upper is taken out, the lower should too because and vice versa, because the remaining tooth will have nothing to grind against when jaw closed. But I don't understand why, if the upper and lower tooth were not touching eachother upon jaw closure, it matters that one was removed and the other remains. And what do you mean you never had a problem until recently? Do you mean you are having trouble after surgery? Or do you mean you had trouble recently, and this is why you had surgery? Thanks, Brian
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
You could just spin the mirror around on a driver side mirror set up and drill holes to mount on the pass side. On Dec 20, 2006, at 8:16 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: A W108/109/111 side view mirror should work just as well. You could check by cross-referencing the driver's side mirror to see if they are interchangeable. Or, why not simply order a driver's side mirror for a RHD cars? On 12/20/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you are right, I didnt notice he said passenger side, I thought it wanted drivers side. Redghost wrote: There is no such animal to my knowledge. I checked the factory parts book and neither the US or euro models shows a passenger side mirror. Maybe Kaleb knows a secret place that has them. On Dec 19, 2006, at 12:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb or anyone do you have a used passenger side mirror for a 1972 220D? 115.110 chassis This is the old style which accomodate a vented v window. Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 220D seller on CRACK!
SEVERE CRACK! Gump was all of $117.50 and in as good of shape as he thinks his is. On Dec 20, 2006, at 10:32 AM, kevin kraly wrote: Here's an ad for a 1970 220D for $3200. for that price, it sure does need lots of work. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/251587390.html I could buy nearly 3 of my 300SD's for that! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula bought for $1300, what a steal! -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Apple
As a graphic artist who started out in the early nineties, I'm a fan of Macs, but cannot back it up with the specific reasons you guys give. Maybe I'm a sucker. On the other hand, all I've had access to in recent years (aside from at school lately) is a Dell pentuim IV PC. Things have changed in the last decade or so, in that I can now do most modest graphic arts tasks on a regular home PC. The thing that I'm intrigued by, as we are now looking for another home computer that I can also do graphic design work on, is the supposed vastly superior tech. support available through Apple. Not to step on any toes out there, but I really hate dealing with tech support guys - they usually sport such a I know stuff you don't and I have the answers you need, so I don't have to be nice to you, (and I don't get out into the open air much and thus have few soical skills) attitude. Supposedly, and confirmed by Chuck, a call/email/visit to the Apple store can net us interaction with fluent English speakers with good social skills and real solutions. That's what I need. Thoughts on this, and the value provided by the more expensive Mac and its software? How about reliability? Brian No, that's not quite what an Apple Store is like... If I need some help and there's warranty or extended warranty, I can log onto apple.com and make an appointment w/a genius in my local Store in Chandler, AZ... Take laptop/desktop in and they will generally take care of it even if I screwed it up. I did that w/IPhoto and voila!, fixed. I signed up for $99/year for mac.com and get storage/ synch/etc., / FWIW, I've got an iBook G4 PowerPC w/OS 10.4.8 and an Emac (at home) w/Classic Environment... Would never go back to PC. But, if I need to, I can log onto mac.com on a PC and get my mail, etc. And let's not forgetMERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND ALL WHOM YOU LOVE!!! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] WOW, I don't think I have seen a 115 this rusty
Damn! I got thrice the car at half the price. On Dec 20, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Well it is from Northern MA. There and upstate NY use a lot of salt. Roads are white all winter-not from snow but salt. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] WOW, I dont think I have seen a 115 this rusty http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1975-Mercedes-Benz-Parts- car_W0QQitemZ1800662 90070QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
[MBZ] WTB 240D
Does anyone know of a good sound 240D in the Ontario Canada region for sale? Not sure what the market is for one here, but looking for one with a sound body, and good mechanicals. I don't mind little weekend projects, like changing some hoses, servicing, etc, but don't want to do body work, and I'm not looking for a real project. Or even a gaser if it's in good order. Doesn't have to be fast, it's mostly for city use. Thanks, Zeb ps. also interested in a clean well serviced 420SEL or 300SDL.
Re: [MBZ] Apple
I'm using an older pc at home now, but I've had about 7 Macs over the years, starting with an SE. Not sure about support with the mac, I never had us it or had a problem with one, except for the time I dropped a laptop and had to replace the motherboard. They were all used lots, and never a failure, lost data or anything like that.. The dealer fixed the laptop fast and no further problems, I was just more careful where I set it after that. :-) Not sure what the current ones are like. Zeb On 26/12/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a graphic artist who started out in the early nineties, I'm a fan of Macs, but cannot back it up with the specific reasons you guys give. Maybe I'm a sucker. On the other hand, all I've had access to in recent years (aside from at school lately) is a Dell pentuim IV PC. Things have changed in the last decade or so, in that I can now do most modest graphic arts tasks on a regular home PC. The thing that I'm intrigued by, as we are now looking for another home computer that I can also do graphic design work on, is the supposed vastly superior tech. support available through Apple. Not to step on any toes out there, but I really hate dealing with tech support guys - they usually sport such a I know stuff you don't and I have the answers you need, so I don't have to be nice to you, (and I don't get out into the open air much and thus have few soical skills) attitude. Supposedly, and confirmed by Chuck, a call/email/visit to the Apple store can net us interaction with fluent English speakers with good social skills and real solutions. That's what I need. Thoughts on this, and the value provided by the more expensive Mac and its software? How about reliability? Brian No, that's not quite what an Apple Store is like... If I need some help and there's warranty or extended warranty, I can log onto apple.com and make an appointment w/a genius in my local Store in Chandler, AZ... Take laptop/desktop in and they will generally take care of it even if I screwed it up. I did that w/IPhoto and voila!, fixed. I signed up for $99/year for mac.com and get storage/ synch/etc., / FWIW, I've got an iBook G4 PowerPC w/OS 10.4.8 and an Emac (at home) w/Classic Environment... Would never go back to PC. But, if I need to, I can log onto mac.com on a PC and get my mail, etc. And let's not forgetMERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND ALL WHOM YOU LOVE!!! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
Maybe, then, you might have a thought on a question that I posted some time ago and didn't get any direct opinions on: Why is it that you never used to see the digits 666 on a license plate, but nowadays you do? Brian 83 240D On 12/24/06, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always liked this one: http://thomas.savage.org/plate.jpg I was at an ALPCA meet once (http://www.alpca.org/ - yes there exist bigger nerds than old diesel owners) and a guy had a display containing 3M TA3 plates from three different states. Just yesterday I saw one you'd appreciate, Loren. Frod Escort ZX2, festooned with perhaps 15 or 20 political bumper stickers, all left wing freak show-type stuff. Missouri license plate UMMM OK. All I could think was, Indeed. Merry Christmas everyone. I'll be spending it en route to Red China. Tom On 12/24/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are all stock state issued plates: (Not vanity plates) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
Why is it that you never used to see the digits 666 on a license plate, but nowadays you do? One of my dad's friends had a 1976 T-Bird with the original CA plate 666 prw. It was kept pristine for mearly 9 years until it was involved in a MAJOR accident which still left it driveable although it slowly deteriorated electrically and mechanically after that. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265k miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
Virginia tag TCL TK And what would that mean? I guess i'm not that geeky. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Marine Diesel - Westerbeke
Bill Gallagher wrote: Owner said low oil pressure after twenty minutes of operation engine 1978 never rebuild What are the possible causes of low oil pressure AFTER 20 minutes operation I'm thinking the usual, loose bearings, weak pump, combined with oil that's so thick it builds pressure until the oil is good and hot.
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, kevin kraly wrote: Virginia tag TCL TK And what would that mean? I guess i'm not that geeky. http://tcl.tk of course :) -j.
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
That's ultra geeky... Bob R. A computer/internet short bus rider - Original Message - From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate fun On Tue, 26 Dec 2006, kevin kraly wrote: Virginia tag TCL TK And what would that mean? I guess i'm not that geeky. http://tcl.tk of course :) -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
It's geeky alright. It's a small programming language for UNIX. It stands for Tool Command Language and is pronounced tickle toolkit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcl#Extension_packages http://www.tcl.tk It's simply a quick way to program small widget applications. I've never learned it, though my university housemates used it all the time. Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic -- Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 00:33:19 -0800 From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] License plate fun Virginia tag TCL TK And what would that mean? I guess i'm not that geeky. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 265K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Apple
Whenever I've gone to the Apple store, I've been the worst customer possible (no appointment, looking for parts they don't have, etc), and they've been infinitely polite, knowledgeable, and helpful. As for reliability, I've had 4 mac laptops (b/c I get tired of them and go through them like I do cars) and none has had any problems that needed repair. My one issue with my 12 powerbook was that one of the rubber feet fell off and I couldn't find it. Even after I dropped it off my bed and bent the power cord prong, after bending it back into shape it was as if nothing happened. Durable AND good looking. On 12/26/06, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using an older pc at home now, but I've had about 7 Macs over the years, starting with an SE. Not sure about support with the mac, I never had us it or had a problem with one, except for the time I dropped a laptop and had to replace the motherboard. They were all used lots, and never a failure, lost data or anything like that.. The dealer fixed the laptop fast and no further problems, I was just more careful where I set it after that. :-) Not sure what the current ones are like. Zeb On 26/12/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a graphic artist who started out in the early nineties, I'm a fan of Macs, but cannot back it up with the specific reasons you guys give. Maybe I'm a sucker. On the other hand, all I've had access to in recent years (aside from at school lately) is a Dell pentuim IV PC. Things have changed in the last decade or so, in that I can now do most modest graphic arts tasks on a regular home PC. The thing that I'm intrigued by, as we are now looking for another home computer that I can also do graphic design work on, is the supposed vastly superior tech. support available through Apple. Not to step on any toes out there, but I really hate dealing with tech support guys - they usually sport such a I know stuff you don't and I have the answers you need, so I don't have to be nice to you, (and I don't get out into the open air much and thus have few soical skills) attitude. Supposedly, and confirmed by Chuck, a call/email/visit to the Apple store can net us interaction with fluent English speakers with good social skills and real solutions. That's what I need. Thoughts on this, and the value provided by the more expensive Mac and its software? How about reliability? Brian No, that's not quite what an Apple Store is like... If I need some help and there's warranty or extended warranty, I can log onto apple.com and make an appointment w/a genius in my local Store in Chandler, AZ... Take laptop/desktop in and they will generally take care of it even if I screwed it up. I did that w/IPhoto and voila!, fixed. I signed up for $99/year for mac.com and get storage/ synch/etc., / FWIW, I've got an iBook G4 PowerPC w/OS 10.4.8 and an Emac (at home) w/Classic Environment... Would never go back to PC. But, if I need to, I can log onto mac.com on a PC and get my mail, etc. And let's not forgetMERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND ALL WHOM YOU LOVE!!! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Apple
reliabilty is why i made the switch to mac. i'm so tired of blue screens and having to reinstall my OS. many of you claim to use Windows and never have any of these issues i have them all the time and most people i know have them all the time my advice to everyone who tells me about their computer problems is to get a mac On 12/26/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a graphic artist who started out in the early nineties, I'm a fan of Macs, but cannot back it up with the specific reasons you guys give. Maybe I'm a sucker. On the other hand, all I've had access to in recent years (aside from at school lately) is a Dell pentuim IV PC. Things have changed in the last decade or so, in that I can now do most modest graphic arts tasks on a regular home PC. The thing that I'm intrigued by, as we are now looking for another home computer that I can also do graphic design work on, is the supposed vastly superior tech. support available through Apple. Not to step on any toes out there, but I really hate dealing with tech support guys - they usually sport such a I know stuff you don't and I have the answers you need, so I don't have to be nice to you, (and I don't get out into the open air much and thus have few soical skills) attitude. Supposedly, and confirmed by Chuck, a call/email/visit to the Apple store can net us interaction with fluent English speakers with good social skills and real solutions. That's what I need. Thoughts on this, and the value provided by the more expensive Mac and its software? How about reliability? Brian No, that's not quite what an Apple Store is like... If I need some help and there's warranty or extended warranty, I can log onto apple.com and make an appointment w/a genius in my local Store in Chandler, AZ... Take laptop/desktop in and they will generally take care of it even if I screwed it up. I did that w/IPhoto and voila!, fixed. I signed up for $99/year for mac.com and get storage/ synch/etc., / FWIW, I've got an iBook G4 PowerPC w/OS 10.4.8 and an Emac (at home) w/Classic Environment... Would never go back to PC. But, if I need to, I can log onto mac.com on a PC and get my mail, etc. And let's not forgetMERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND ALL WHOM YOU LOVE!!! Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Low oil pressure?
Low oil pressure after it gets up to operating temps? #1 cause is bad main bearings; or perhaps a bad pressure regulating valve on the oil pump output combined with a worn out oil pump combined with the wrong oil viscosity. If he's really lucky, just the wrong oil! Werner - Original Message - From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 11:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Marine Diesel - Westerbeke Owner said low oil pressure after twenty minutes of operation engine 1978 never rebuild What are the possible causes of low oil pressure AFTER 20 minutes operation . TIA Bill 1981 300 TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?
I have them for $13.00 - Original Message - From: Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: [MBZ] Sun visor clip? I need to buy a couple of sunvisor clips for my 87 300D. Does anyone know where I can get them for a resonable price? -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?
Nope, Doraville, GA, my clips are $13.00 - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip? New ones are $40 plus $6 shipping on eBay --- http://tinyurl.com/y82hqe Is Rusty in Norcross, GA ? On 12/23/06, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone. After OK Don got back for buying his at the stealership for $22.00 each I thought I would ask if anyone new where I might get them for a more resonable price. I will check with Rusty and see what his prices are. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?
How low? Is it above 1 BAR? If so then it is not low. Another cause for low oil pressure is using a Fram oil filter. Fram uses 2 paper elements instead of a paper on the top section a mat element on the bottom section. The lower mat element is the bypass filter with an incorrectly manufactured filter, too much oil will pass through the bypass, dropping your oil pressure. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Low oil pressure? Low oil pressure after it gets up to operating temps? #1 cause is bad main bearings; or perhaps a bad pressure regulating valve on the oil pump output combined with a worn out oil pump combined with the wrong oil viscosity. If he's really lucky, just the wrong oil! Werner - Original Message - From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 11:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] Marine Diesel - Westerbeke Owner said low oil pressure after twenty minutes of operation engine 1978 never rebuild What are the possible causes of low oil pressure AFTER 20 minutes operation . TIA Bill 1981 300 TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Christmas light in the '90 300d 2.5
Did you check the 30 amp strip fuse by the main fuse box? OK Don wrote: The fan was replaced by Donald Snook before I bought it, and has been working quietly and just fine, so I don't think that it's bearings. It was as if someone turned off the electricity to it. I keep thinking that the flashing light is trying to tell me something I'd rather loose the fan in the summer, even at 100F, than when I need it to keep the windshield clear while driving. Cold feels more life threatening to me than heat, though my wife is the opposite. On 12/25/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Don, I would guess the fan bearings froze - but don't know about the flashing light - BTW, the fan is no fun to replace - the WW mechanism must be removed after removing the WW and cowling trim. Lots of instructions in the WSM - but I paid to have mine changed last August - no fun to lose the AC when it's in the upper 90s. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?
If its above .3 bar its OK. Tom Hargrave wrote: How low? Is it above 1 BAR? If so then it is not low. Another cause for low oil pressure is using a Fram oil filter. Fram uses 2 paper elements instead of a paper on the top section a mat element on the bottom section. The lower mat element is the bypass filter with an incorrectly manufactured filter, too much oil will pass through the bypass, dropping your oil pressure. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If its above .3 bar its OK. I'm no Westerbeke expert, but .3 idle sounds low, and .3 cruising sounds deadly. I think it's normal to put a .5 bar low oil pressure alarm switch on an Atomic 4 gasser.
[MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Hi everyone,
My Isuzu ('92 Trooper, 3.2 liter DOHC V6) needs a new clutch master
cylinder.
Worldpac (I'm looking at www.thepartsbin.com - Rusty doesn't sell Japanese
car parts, does he?) lists four different possibilities, made by Adler, PBR,
Raybestos, and Sachs. Prices range from $57 to $103. Which should I get?
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'92 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Rusty does sell Asian parts at www.buyasianparts.com
On 12/26/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
My Isuzu ('92 Trooper, 3.2 liter DOHC V6) needs a new clutch master
cylinder.
Worldpac (I'm looking at www.thepartsbin.com - Rusty doesn't sell Japanese
car parts, does he?) lists four different possibilities, made by Adler,
PBR,
Raybestos, and Sachs. Prices range from $57 to $103. Which should I get?
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
YES, Rusty sells Jap parts!! http://BuyASIANparts.com
- Original Message -
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Hi everyone,
My Isuzu ('92 Trooper, 3.2 liter DOHC V6) needs a new clutch master
cylinder.
Worldpac (I'm looking at www.thepartsbin.com - Rusty doesn't sell Japanese
car parts, does he?) lists four different possibilities, made by Adler,
PBR,
Raybestos, and Sachs. Prices range from $57 to $103. Which should I get?
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'92 Isuzu Trooper
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Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
How did I not know this?!
Save me headache when I decide to get the steering rack for wifey's Acura.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 ACURA LEGEND180K (for heaven's sake)
Litchfield Park, AZ
- Original Message -
From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
YES, Rusty sells Jap parts!! http://BuyASIANparts.com
- Original Message -
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Hi everyone,
My Isuzu ('92 Trooper, 3.2 liter DOHC V6) needs a new clutch master
cylinder.
Worldpac (I'm looking at www.thepartsbin.com - Rusty doesn't sell
Japanese
car parts, does he?) lists four different possibilities, made by Adler,
PBR,
Raybestos, and Sachs. Prices range from $57 to $103. Which should I
get?
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'92 Isuzu Trooper
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Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
we also have http://www.BuyEUROparts.com
- Original Message -
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
How did I not know this?!
Save me headache when I decide to get the steering rack for wifey's Acura.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 ACURA LEGEND180K (for heaven's sake)
Litchfield Park, AZ
- Original Message -
From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
YES, Rusty sells Jap parts!! http://BuyASIANparts.com
- Original Message -
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Hi everyone,
My Isuzu ('92 Trooper, 3.2 liter DOHC V6) needs a new clutch master
cylinder.
Worldpac (I'm looking at www.thepartsbin.com - Rusty doesn't sell
Japanese
car parts, does he?) lists four different possibilities, made by Adler,
PBR,
Raybestos, and Sachs. Prices range from $57 to $103. Which should I
get?
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'92 Isuzu Trooper
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Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
That's where I buy parts for my Vanagon. On 12/26/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we also have http://www.BuyEUROparts.com Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Well, well. This is my epiphany for the day. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu That's where I buy parts for my Vanagon. On 12/26/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we also have http://www.BuyEUROparts.com Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sigh....
I definitely do NOT miss my 1980 300D (normally aspirated) diesel sedan.
The engine at just over 120 K miles throbbed so much it was no fun to drive
on the highway. The upgrade to an '83 300TD turbodiesel in 1989 left me
smiling ever since.
On 12/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob I miss my 77 300D. What started it all for me. Was 42 years old when
I
bought it back late in 2002. I had up until that time never drove any MB
gasser or diesel in my life.
Funny you drive other cars and step back in the feeling you get.
Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D, 107K
Maybe 1972 220D, 190K miles
Bellefonte PA
- Original Message -
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Sigh
After having to drive the Acura ('87 Legend, 180K miles) for a week,
I am again amazed how much mo-better the ten year older MB
feels/drives/rides/sounds/etc.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend 180K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] Apple
First, it's hard to separate dispassionate analysis from religious fever in any PC vs. Mac discussion. My bias is towards PCs. My favorite quote on the question is A Mac is like a bicycle with training wheels that you can't take off. This dates from the DOS 3 era. There are those of us (mostly Linux users now) who like to fiddle with the innards of their PCs, knowingly trading stability for experimentation. There are a LOT of variables that effect PC stability - from the quality of the hardware to the software to the user. I have users who regularly destroy PCs, and those that regularly destroy Macs. I will say that Apple is not going to sell you a hard drive or memory chip from the bottom of the barrel, which many PC manufactures will - and you really run into with white box or DIYS PCs where price is the deciding criteria when choosing parts. I buy the cheapest parts I can find, but don't expect them to be the pinnacle of reliability. I maintain them my self, and just deal with it when a drive gets corruption or dies. If you install every piece of shareware someone tells you about, you can expect an un-stable Windows OS. If you only use mainstream software, and don't constantly remove and re-install versions, etc., you can expect Windows to be stable, at least from NT workstation and XP on. We only got Macs for our graphics folk when they started printing directly to color presses - color management on a Macs was light years ahead of PCs at the time - about seven years ago. One of the graphic artists is constantly crashing his Mac and having to re-load it. He's the Mac guru of the shop - go figure. I've never used consumer support, so have no idea what you'll get from any of them. The State (OK) just standardized on Dell PC's, and I can tell you that, so far, HP commercial support beats Dell's hands down. I think that you'll get comparable hardware quality from the commercial versions of PCs from IBM, HP, etc., and from Apple. The jury is still out on Dell. I doubt that you'll get that level of quality from the consumer versions of PCs from anyone. I can tell you that the mechanical difference between commercial models of Compaq laptops and the one consumer Dell I have is like a Mercedes to a Hyundai. You can read the vintage of the machines I'm talking about by the use of Compaq instead of HP --- I did drop tests on three models of laptops each from Dell and Compaq once. I had demo units of the ultra-portable, two spindle mid size, and desktop replacement commercial lines. I dropped them, running, from waist high, onto a raised floor - 24 square tiles suspended above concrete. only the largest Dell failed - the screen cracked and was un-usable. The other five ran as if nothing had happened. I attribute the failure of the Dell to the random angle and corner it hit at - not a design deficiency. They all survived better than I expected. note - this was about five years ago --- YMMV. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Christmas light in the '90 300d 2.5
Does a blown fuse make the re-circulation light blink? No, I haven't checked it, but will soon. On 12/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you check the 30 amp strip fuse by the main fuse box? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Cincinnati 1987 300D
There they go again with their inflated mileage claims. On 12/25/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its cheap Sunil Hari wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/253208289.html holler if you want me to look. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cincinnati 1987 300D
I've seen 30 mpg in mine just once, under ideal conditions (steady 75 mph on the flat for the whole tank). On 12/26/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There they go again with their inflated mileage claims. On 12/25/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its cheap Sunil Hari wrote: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/253208289.html Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
Hey Rusty, do you have the little brown plastic piece that goes on the inside of the backrest adjustment wheel in a 1988 Saab 900S? On 12/26/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, well. This is my epiphany for the day. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu That's where I buy parts for my Vanagon. On 12/26/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we also have http://www.BuyEUROparts.com Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Apple
my kid likes to open 27 websites at once until the machine crashes. it always does. i aways scream. then someone tries to sell me something unsolicited. then the screen goes blue. that was my life i told my kid to do anything she could opening and closing websites and programs to crash os x. she couldn't do it. we were both impressed On 12/26/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, it's hard to separate dispassionate analysis from religious fever in any PC vs. Mac discussion. My bias is towards PCs. My favorite quote on the question is A Mac is like a bicycle with training wheels that you can't take off. This dates from the DOS 3 era. There are those of us (mostly Linux users now) who like to fiddle with the innards of their PCs, knowingly trading stability for experimentation. There are a LOT of variables that effect PC stability - from the quality of the hardware to the software to the user. I have users who regularly destroy PCs, and those that regularly destroy Macs. I will say that Apple is not going to sell you a hard drive or memory chip from the bottom of the barrel, which many PC manufactures will - and you really run into with white box or DIYS PCs where price is the deciding criteria when choosing parts. I buy the cheapest parts I can find, but don't expect them to be the pinnacle of reliability. I maintain them my self, and just deal with it when a drive gets corruption or dies. If you install every piece of shareware someone tells you about, you can expect an un-stable Windows OS. If you only use mainstream software, and don't constantly remove and re-install versions, etc., you can expect Windows to be stable, at least from NT workstation and XP on. We only got Macs for our graphics folk when they started printing directly to color presses - color management on a Macs was light years ahead of PCs at the time - about seven years ago. One of the graphic artists is constantly crashing his Mac and having to re-load it. He's the Mac guru of the shop - go figure. I've never used consumer support, so have no idea what you'll get from any of them. The State (OK) just standardized on Dell PC's, and I can tell you that, so far, HP commercial support beats Dell's hands down. I think that you'll get comparable hardware quality from the commercial versions of PCs from IBM, HP, etc., and from Apple. The jury is still out on Dell. I doubt that you'll get that level of quality from the consumer versions of PCs from anyone. I can tell you that the mechanical difference between commercial models of Compaq laptops and the one consumer Dell I have is like a Mercedes to a Hyundai. You can read the vintage of the machines I'm talking about by the use of Compaq instead of HP --- I did drop tests on three models of laptops each from Dell and Compaq once. I had demo units of the ultra-portable, two spindle mid size, and desktop replacement commercial lines. I dropped them, running, from waist high, onto a raised floor - 24 square tiles suspended above concrete. only the largest Dell failed - the screen cracked and was un-usable. The other five ran as if nothing had happened. I attribute the failure of the Dell to the random angle and corner it hit at - not a design deficiency. They all survived better than I expected. note - this was about five years ago --- YMMV. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sun visor clip?
Rusty Cullens wrote: I have them for $13.00 Now that sound perfectly reasonable! Many dealers have chosen to sell parts to retail customers for double Mercedes recommended list price. Such dealers should be avoided! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Cincinnati 1987 300D
andrew strasfogel wrote: There they go again with their inflated mileage claims. A properly running 124.133 can certainly deliver 30+ mpg on the highway. I've gotten 30 mpg with my 124.193 more than once (although 28-29 is more usual) and it weighs 300 lbs more. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Sigh....
I have never driven a turbo...yet. All I know is normally aspirated (220D,
300D).
My grand plan (now...today...at this moment) is the next thing I get will be
an '84-'86 300D Turbo for wifey to drive and turn the Acura into the 3rd
car.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend 180K
Litchfield Park, AZ
- Original Message -
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sigh
I definitely do NOT miss my 1980 300D (normally aspirated) diesel sedan.
The engine at just over 120 K miles throbbed so much it was no fun to
drive
on the highway. The upgrade to an '83 300TD turbodiesel in 1989 left me
smiling ever since.
On 12/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob I miss my 77 300D. What started it all for me. Was 42 years old
when
I
bought it back late in 2002. I had up until that time never drove any MB
gasser or diesel in my life.
Funny you drive other cars and step back in the feeling you get.
Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D, 107K
Maybe 1972 220D, 190K miles
Bellefonte PA
- Original Message -
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Sigh
After having to drive the Acura ('87 Legend, 180K miles) for a week,
I am again amazed how much mo-better the ten year older MB
feels/drives/rides/sounds/etc.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend 180K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?
.3 is min factory spec at idle. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If its above .3 bar its OK. I'm no Westerbeke expert, but .3 idle sounds low, and .3 cruising sounds deadly. I think it's normal to put a .5 bar low oil pressure alarm switch on an Atomic 4 gasser. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Christmas light in the '90 300d 2.5
No, it wouldnt. Not sure what the blinking light would be. Read the owners manual, I bet there is something in there about it. OK Don wrote: Does a blown fuse make the re-circulation light blink? No, I haven't checked it, but will soon. On 12/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you check the 30 amp strip fuse by the main fuse box? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu
No. sorry. Everything we have for all cars other than Mercedes is at those web sites. Mercedes we can get anything that is still available.So don't forget...for all your other cars just go to : http://BuyASIANparts.com and http://www.BuyEUROparts.com Forget those other guys. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu Hey Rusty, do you have the little brown plastic piece that goes on the inside of the backrest adjustment wheel in a 1988 Saab 900S? On 12/26/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, well. This is my epiphany for the day. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Aftermarket parts question - Isuzu That's where I buy parts for my Vanagon. On 12/26/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we also have http://www.BuyEUROparts.com Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] R 320 CDI
Son is considering a 07 R 320CDI? Any words of wisdom? Wilton
Re: [MBZ] R 320 CDI
Yes, I wish I had his money. - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: [MBZ] R 320 CDI Son is considering a 07 R 320CDI? Any words of wisdom? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil Filter Shaft and o-rings
I have a 1983 240 D and a 1981 300SD. The oil filter is accessed from the top and they have a hollow metal shaft with two o-rings on the lower end of the shaft. How often should these o-rings be replaced? How do you clean out the hollow shaft? I use brake cleaner and compressed air. Are you supposed to run a wire or cleaning brush through this shaft to keep it clear or just rinse it out. Thanks, Mike From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 26 21:13:38 2006 Received: from m12.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.22.75]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GzJc9-00048T-Rz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:13:38 + Received: from m12.nyc.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m12.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABC3DD8JAR7FVSJ for mercedes@okiebenz.com (sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:10:32 -0800 (PST) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: P5Q9qLmo38jKPWLaCkMrzvkutdkMUB9j1McVY2QF91XNiRS/ngucUQ=Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by m12.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id MAJYM8GW; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 13:10:17 PST To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:15:05 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2 From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-ContentStamp: 2:1:356848796 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m12.nyc.untd.com|[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Sun visor clips X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:13:39 - Last New ones i bought were just under $13 ea. + tax at Merc. Benz. dealer in Ok. city Steve
Re: [MBZ] Apple stores
Supposedly, and confirmed by Chuck, a call/email/visit to the Apple store can net us interaction with fluent English speakers with good social skills and real solutions. That's what I need. I too have used the Genius desk (OK, it's a goofy term) several times, booking an appointment online in the morning for a PM time. My questions have been answered without regard for time spent and I've been given info and software on disk with no cost whatever. Trying to even ask a question at CompUSA's service counter is to get the brushoff. The point is, without good service and technical backup, even the finest product is of no value. Which is why I drive a Mercedes. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Shaft and o-rings
Mike, Not sure of the interval for replacing those o-rings, but not more than 10K miles. However, personal experience says they can last over 100kmiles... Well, maybe not that much, but when I finally changed them on my 300SD (Gone to new owner last June) they were very brittle. Cut them off w/utility knife and they just popped. Never cleaned the shaft in the 225kmiles (347kmiles total) I put on the SD.! No evident problems resulted. Happy New Year and take care, Chuck Phoenix On Dec 26, 2006, at 10:59 AM, MICHAEL ESH wrote: I have a 1983 240 D and a 1981 300SD. The oil filter is accessed from the top and they have a hollow metal shaft with two o-rings on the lower end of the shaft. How often should these o-rings be replaced? How do you clean out the hollow shaft? I use brake cleaner and compressed air. Are you supposed to run a wire or cleaning brush through this shaft to keep it clear or just rinse it out. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] License plate fun
Okay, so maybe I'm mistaken that the digits 666 have not been hisorically allowed on license plates. Perhaps they're avoided? You'd think they'd show up often enough for me to remember seeing it at least once (not counting recently). And no, I haven't just started thinking about it in recent years, so it's not the you're thinking about it, so now you see it all the time phenomenon. Brian On 12/26/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that you never used to see the digits 666 on a license plate, but nowadays you do? One of my dad's friends had a 1976 T-Bird with the original CA plate 666 prw. It was kept pristine for mearly 9 years until it was involved in a MAJOR accident which still left it driveable although it slowly deteriorated electrically and mechanically after that. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265k miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] R-Class diesel
Son is considering a 07 R 320CDI? Any words of wisdom? What I know is that the magazine reviews of models using the 7G-Tronic transmission have been universally enthusiastic about the trans. I looked over my friend AC's new E320 Bluetec last week and was surprised to hear no diesel noise with the hood closed. Opening the hood, there was a small amount of combustion noise at a rock solid vibration free idle. I've examined a few Rs and although it's looks don't thrill me, the quality inside and out is impressive. Too bad the short wheelbase version isn't sold here. The diesel version costs $1000 more than the gas version which must be the 3.5 V-6. Where the 5.5 V-8 fits into this is unknown to me. My dealer uses them as courtesy vans replacing a couple of MLs. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Shaft and o-rings
On Dec 26, 2006, at 10:59 AM, MICHAEL ESH wrote: I have a 1983 240 D and a 1981 300SD. The oil filter is accessed from the top and they have a hollow metal shaft with two o-rings on the lower end of the shaft. How often should these o-rings be replaced? How do you clean out the hollow shaft? I use brake cleaner and compressed air. Are you supposed to run a wire or cleaning brush through this shaft to keep it clear or just rinse it out. Thanks, Mike In my experience (been checking this for about 12 years now) the O rings start to get hard after about 20,000-25,000 miles. How soon before the oil pressure at idle drops (it will drop when the O rings are rock hard) is not clear but it takes MORE than 25kmi. This seems a little more critical in OM60x engines that have hydraulic lifters that can start to clatter at idle when the O rings get really hard. If you replace the filter stem O rings when you change transmission fluid or fuel/air filters (about every 30kmi). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Apple
Don is right, its just not fair to compare any Mac to a $200 Wal-Mart PC. Stack a Mac workstation up against an HP workstation machine and they're about the same for quality. Apple FINALLY made it practical to put multiple drives inside the computer's case (important for video editors) but they still ship with a stinkin single button mouse. How they can design something as cool as their current mouse without having a second button baffles and annoys me. Otherwise I use Linux, except for my video editing machine which is Windows based for my editing app because FCP left me up the river without a paddle with hungry natives staring at me. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 12:36:44 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed First, it's hard to separate dispassionate analysis from religious fever in any PC vs. Mac discussion. My bias is towards PCs. My favorite quote on the question is A Mac is like a bicycle with training wheels that you can't take off. This dates from the DOS 3 era. There are those of us (mostly Linux users now) who like to fiddle with the innards of their PCs, knowingly trading stability for experimentation. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 26 22:20:11 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GzKeZ-0006EW-AY for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:20:11 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-181-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.181.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id 20061226221730m1500qd3ege; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:17:30 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:17:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sigh X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:20:11 - Hi Bob, Once you experience a Turbo diesel you won't consder anything else. Not sure how the newer MB diesels are (2000 and newer) but the W123 124 are totally different with a turbo - the E Class introduced in 95 was initially without a turbo a turbo was added in 98 IIRC. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sigh I have never driven a turbo...yet. All I know is normally aspirated (220D, 300D). My grand plan (now...today...at this moment) is the next thing I get will be an '84-'86 300D Turbo for wifey to drive and turn the Acura into the 3rd car. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sigh I definitely do NOT miss my 1980 300D (normally aspirated) diesel sedan. The engine at just over 120 K miles throbbed so much it was no fun to drive on the highway. The upgrade to an '83 300TD turbodiesel in 1989 left me smiling ever since. On 12/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob I miss my 77 300D. What started it all for me. Was 42 years old when I bought it back late in 2002. I had up until that time never drove any MB gasser or diesel in my life. Funny you drive other cars and step back in the feeling you get. Regards Tom Scordato 1979
Re: [MBZ] Apple
You'd get alot less spyware on a pc just by not using Internet Exploder... If you haven't been able to crash the mac yet its because you don't do much. When I gave up on the mac its because my project got corrupt. Thats normally no big deal, theres backups that are made automatically and I'd made EXTRA backups. This was after about 40 hours of editing. So the backups were corrupt, the extended backups were corrupt. At that point I was upset but the media should still be fine so I should be able to rebuild in about 3/4 of the first run. Nope, the media was corrupt... I set the Mac aside with thoughts of explosives in my head, edited the project on a PC. Did another project in the mac to prove to myself it was a random fluke, then sold the thing. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:44:26 -0500 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed my kid likes to open 27 websites at once until the machine crashes. it always does. i aways scream. then someone tries to sell me something unsolicited. then the screen goes blue. that was my life i told my kid to do anything she could opening and closing websites and programs to crash os x. she couldn't do it. we were both impressed __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 26 22:26:56 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([216.148.227.155]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GzKl6-0006R7-7X for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:26:56 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-181-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.181.125]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with SMTP id 20061226222340m1500qe1vke; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:23:40 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:23:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Shaft and o-rings X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:26:56 - Change them when they look damaged - don't remove them from the shaft at every oil change as that will damage them - just examine them and if you see cracks or other damage to them replace them - keep spares in your toolbox. Changing them every 4th or 5th oil change won't hurt - they're pretty cheap and are only damaged when the shaft is removed/installed. The internal part of the shaft should be fine with the cleaning you are doing - don't think wire is needed - especially if you change the oil regularily - especially if using synthetic oil - you will always get black oil out when you spray cleaner in it - that's the nature of oil used in a diesel engine. HTH's Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] Oil Filter Shaft and o-rings I have a 1983 240 D and a 1981 300SD. The oil filter is accessed from the top and they have a hollow metal shaft with two o-rings on the lower end of the shaft. How often should these o-rings be replaced? How do you clean out the hollow shaft? I use brake cleaner and compressed air. Are you supposed to run a wire or cleaning brush through this shaft to keep it clear or just rinse it out. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] R 320 CDI
wilton strickland wrote: Son is considering a 07 R 320CDI? Any words of wisdom? Yes. If he has to finance it, he can't afford it. If he can pay cash, he still should consider buying something cheaper and investing the difference. I bet $15,000 would get him the most beautiful '87 300TD he's ever seen. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Apple
i don't use explorer true, i don't do much, but it seems too much for every pc i've ever used On 12/26/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd get alot less spyware on a pc just by not using Internet Exploder... If you haven't been able to crash the mac yet its because you don't do much. When I gave up on the mac its because my project got corrupt. Thats normally no big deal, theres backups that are made automatically and I'd made EXTRA backups. This was after about 40 hours of editing. So the backups were corrupt, the extended backups were corrupt. At that point I was upset but the media should still be fine so I should be able to rebuild in about 3/4 of the first run. Nope, the media was corrupt... I set the Mac aside with thoughts of explosives in my head, edited the project on a PC. Did another project in the mac to prove to myself it was a random fluke, then sold the thing. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:44:26 -0500 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Apple To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed my kid likes to open 27 websites at once until the machine crashes. it always does. i aways scream. then someone tries to sell me something unsolicited. then the screen goes blue. that was my life i told my kid to do anything she could opening and closing websites and programs to crash os x. she couldn't do it. we were both impressed __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apple stores
who are those mac people at compUSA anyway? i've been pretty underwhelmed by their mac specialists i think i do have to check out the apple store. On 12/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supposedly, and confirmed by Chuck, a call/email/visit to the Apple store can net us interaction with fluent English speakers with good social skills and real solutions. That's what I need. I too have used the Genius desk (OK, it's a goofy term) several times, booking an appointment online in the morning for a PM time. My questions have been answered without regard for time spent and I've been given info and software on disk with no cost whatever. Trying to even ask a question at CompUSA's service counter is to get the brushoff. The point is, without good service and technical backup, even the finest product is of no value. Which is why I drive a Mercedes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
