Re: [MBZ] Euro lamps
Are these the fogs in the euro lite or the external round things? Gump uses H-3 in her fogs. There is a write up on how to turn metal duct tape into reflector on the MBCA site in the 114/115 section. I am thinking about doing that with the shot reflectors in Gump. Cheaper than resilvering. On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: One of the fog lights on the Frankenheap is burned out. It's a Neglin (Holland) 10086, a 12V-45W bulb with a large base and a weird flat bayonet. It's certainly not critical to be replaced, as its reflector is toast and I have bumper-mount fogs too, but I like everything to work. It looks like I could break off the glass and braze an H3 to the base, that'd put the filament in approximately the right place, but that would be no fun. (I've done something similar to replace one of the dead R2 bulbs with an H4.) Anybody got any suggestions? Surfing the bulb supply sites yielded nothing at all. Interestingly, next to the 10086 fog lamp is an empty 4W bulb socket. The car's harness doesn't supply power to it, however. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Euro lamps
Are these the fogs in the euro lite or the external round things? In the Euros, located approximately where the turn/park junk is on the USDOT lamps. (Turns are on top, and park is handled by the city light in the main reflector. The parking light socket in the fog reflector is unused.) It uses R2 headlamps, which are hard to find. I converted one to H4 by desoldering the old bulb's base and turning it into an adapter flange. I plan to do the other one when it dies. The converted lighting pattern is a little softer than before but is still pretty good, and is brighter. And much easier to procure, and is cheaper. I laid in a supply of liquidation H4's for $1 or $2 each. The external round fogs are on my 250C convertible, the heap got Harbor Freight plastic cheapies that use H3. (To be 'upgraded' to metal-bodied Blazers from a junkyard BMW next time they shatter.) Gump uses H-3 in her fogs. There is a write up on how to turn metal duct tape into reflector on the MBCA site in the 114/115 section. I am thinking about doing that with the shot reflectors in Gump. Cheaper than resilvering. The heap's fog reflectors are nasty corroded yellow. I don't know of any colored reflector material I could use. I've toyed with the idea of gluing aluminum foil in there. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemicalplantexplosion
Chris typed: Nice that we didn't become Bhopal II. Those who don't know this reference are too young. Bob Rgetting older every day.
Re: [MBZ] Euro lamps
Here's a Euro supplier that lists neglin bulbs.. http://www.everthammink.nlindex.php?manufacturers_id=1229 They only had 8 Neglin lamps, none of which were this sort of thing. I couldn't find the drawings, but their search also failed to find the 10086 part number. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KCchemicalplantexplosion
I remember a kid in junior high school making fun of the Bhopal Union Carbide chemical plant incident singing the song 10 little 9 little 8 little Indians, very crewel! I didn't remember the date, sometime in the mid 80's? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula PS. I just googled it, december 3, 1984.
Re: [MBZ] Key / Starter / Starting woes 79 240D
He can get them again. Copy of Drivers Lic, and Registration is required. 90 bucks for Tumbler and Key for a 85 300D. Russ W. LT Don wrote: At one time you could order new keys from Rusty by providing the VIN number and proof of ownership. However, I seem to remember reading that he couldn't do that anymore. Rusty? On 2/8/07, Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it would seem I need a new ignition keyswitch. But I also have the need for some new keys and I'd like to keep a single key for everything (ignition, doors, trunk, glove box). What are my options? ...Kevin 87 300TD 79 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I have car fever
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:32:27 -0600 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife gets annoyed buy this ... A Freudian slip? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Gutter moulding removal
On the A pillar there are 2 star screws which seem to hold a black plastic inner piece. I'm wondering how the chrome part comes off - there is a split in the chrome( aluminium ) towards the C pillar. Peter -Original Message- From: Chuck Landenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 February 2007 01:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Merle Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gutter moulding removal Peter, I once had a 300D and never tried to remove the gutter moulding... But, on my (former) 300SD, there were small Phillips screws that held the moulding on and were located in the top jamb of the door opening. The moulding was made up of two pieces meeting at the B pillar w/ a male/female connection. Back when I had that car repainted, I removed almost all chrome trip before it went to the paint shop. On the A Pillar moulding trim, are there any screws visible? I've looked at a bunch of ads on eBay for 300D's and couldn't see anything clear enough. HTH, Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Peter Merle wrote: How does the chrome gutter moulding come off on the W123's? I need to take it off due to the rust raising its ugly head there! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gutter moulding removal
Peter, Never having removed the moulding on a 123 300D, I can't speak from experience. But, try taking out he two star screws and see what kind of movement that allows. Be gentle, always reminding yourself that you may want to back up and not walk out the plank too far. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 8, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Peter Merle wrote: On the A pillar there are 2 star screws which seem to hold a black plastic inner piece. I'm wondering how the chrome part comes off - there is a split in the chrome( aluminium ) towards the C pillar. Peter -Original Message- From: Chuck Landenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 February 2007 01:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Merle Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gutter moulding removal Peter, I once had a 300D and never tried to remove the gutter moulding... But, on my (former) 300SD, there were small Phillips screws that held the moulding on and were located in the top jamb of the door opening. The moulding was made up of two pieces meeting at the B pillar w/ a male/female connection. Back when I had that car repainted, I removed almost all chrome trip before it went to the paint shop. On the A Pillar moulding trim, are there any screws visible? I've looked at a bunch of ads on eBay for 300D's and couldn't see anything clear enough. HTH, Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Peter Merle wrote: How does the chrome gutter moulding come off on the W123's? I need to take it off due to the rust raising its ugly head there! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5?
I purchased a set of rims with almost new tires for my 1987 300D. The seller read the numbers back to me over the phone and because he couldn't read the numbers clearly, he told me they were 6.5 instead of the actual 6 that they are. The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. Will these work ok for the 300D? I would plan to use them with winter tires, as, they are narrower than what I normally use for summer driving. Any suggestions? Thanks Rick From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 09 07:45:45 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.233]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HFQS0-0001h1-OD for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:45:45 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so690517nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.122.2 with SMTP id u2mr4671125wac.1171007102087; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.153.1 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 23:45:02 -0800 From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:45:45 - Rick, the most critical measurement is the ET (offset) which varies by wheel width. What style wheels are they and what is the ET? On 2/8/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I purchased a set of rims with almost new tires for my 1987 300D. The seller read the numbers back to me over the phone and because he couldn't read the numbers clearly, he told me they were 6.5 instead of the actual 6 that they are. The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. Will these work ok for the 300D? I would plan to use them with winter tires, as, they are narrower than what I normally use for summer driving. Any suggestions? Thanks Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Euro lamps
Look at http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html search for P45t; 45/40W for $11, 60/55W for $12, no soldering -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] reflector is unused.) It uses R2 headlamps, which are hard to find. I converted one to H4 by desoldering the old bulb's base and turning it into an adapter flange. I plan to do the other one when it dies. The converted lighting pattern is a little softer than before but is still pretty good, and is brighter. And much easier to procure, and is cheaper. I laid in a supply of liquidation H4's for $1 or $2 each. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 09 13:25:29 2007 Received: from mailout5.parasun.com ([204.174.16.215]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HFVkm-0008UT-Qr for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:25:29 + Received: from rrcs-24-39-222-124.nys.biz.rr.com ([24.39.222.124] helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by mailout5.parasun.com with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1HFVk8-0004xP-Bg for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:24:50 -0800 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:23:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 13:25:29 - I think the old Chevy and a 300D would be pretty close to the same weight empty.. As far as driving an underpowered dog of a truck I can tell you for sure that the 240D engine would suck in a truck. My 78HP flathead gasser in the M37 is OK rolling down the flat road but the slightest hill and you are crawling carrying a load. A pickup NEEDS the extra power to be usefull. If you are only concerned about economy leave the engine in the Benz. Mike - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion I might be able to live with a very fuel efficient dog. My father at one time had a 67 Ford pickup. It came with a 352 cid V8 and he later swapped in a 240 cid inline 6, because he was unhappy with the mileage. It was OK empty but one had to slip the clutch a bit to get moving if it was loaded. However, once moving down the highway it would really cruise and was very good on gas. I never expressly checked but I assume it had a pretty high rearend. I suppose one might need to go the other way in terms of rear gear with a small diesel but it sure would be nice to have good mileage. It can't weigh much more than my 115 300D unless it was loaded up. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion No way...After owning my 123 240D automatic I would not even think about putting that engine in a truck. Maybe in a Toyota or the like. Only a 5cyl. and only a turbo in a truck for me. Anything less would be a dog compared to the 292 Gasser 6. Mike - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion Have to agree with you. Couldn't do much better. I wonder if a 240D engine would have sufficient power? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion Randy, As a MBZ enthusiast I have always thought the engine from a 300D turbo with the 4 speed automatic would be perfect for a 67-72 Chebbie. (My favorite Chevy body style by the way.) At least in a 2wd. Mike - Original
Re: [MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5?
RICHARD FIne wrote: I purchased a set of rims with almost new tires for my 1987 300D. The seller read the numbers back to me over the phone and because he couldn't read the numbers clearly, he told me they were 6.5 instead of the actual 6 that they are. The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. Will these work ok for the 300D? I would plan to use them with winter tires, as, they are narrower than what I normally use for summer driving. Any suggestions? Thanks The wheels MAY not fit the front as they may not clear the brake calipers. They will probably fit on the rear (I have a set of 6 wheels that did fit on the rear of my 124). The wheels are probably from a 201 (190 series) car. As far as I know all the 124s came equipped with 6.5 or wider wheels and most 201s after 1984 came with 6 inch wheels (a few sporty models came with wider wheels). I would NOT recommend using those wheels on your car. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
Just like most men are happy to have women cook for them (myself included - even though I am comfortable working in the kitchen). On 2/8/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Key / Starter / Starting woes 79 240D
It sounds like the problem, if it's not the solenoid, is the switch unit - that screws onto the back of the tumbler assembly. It's not that expensive nor that hard to replace. On 2/8/07, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He can get them again. Copy of Drivers Lic, and Registration is required. 90 bucks for Tumbler and Key for a 85 300D. Russ W. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] I have car fever
Intentional pun? Your wife did ask mine if all men had to constantly swap cars - On 2/8/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:32:27 -0600 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife gets annoyed buy this ... A Freudian slip? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] M1 15k Oil
Marshall wrote: If you had quoted BOTH paragraphs I wrote you would have included the qualifications about the engine condition, kind of driving and the weather conditions. All are factors. You are absolutely correct. You addressed this issue. I read your post too fast. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
Re: [MBZ] Euro lamps
Look at http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html search for P45t; 45/40W for $11, 60/55W for $12, no soldering Yeah, later I found that he had them, but by then the deed was done. The desoldering is a one-time thing, once I've made the adapter plate I can just use H4's in the lamps. (Of which I have a large supply courtesy of the liquidator's.) I do have to use 'dikes' to nip off half of one of the H4's tabs so that it'll clear the mounting collar, but that's it. Takes a second or two. I'm planning to do the remaining 3 R2's in my stable as they fail. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5?
I purchased a set of rims with almost new tires for my 1987 300D... [not] 6.5, [but] 6... Will these work ok for the 300D? I would plan to use them with winter tires, as, they are narrower than what I normally use for summer driving. If they fit, and the offset is right, they will allow the use of narrower snow tires. This, IMHO, is a good thing for a snow tire. Just remind yourself to wait for the summer shoes before driving as aggressively as normally you can! That plan always worked well for my Camaro. Narrow studded snows and a little weight in the rear transformed the car. How's that car holding up? Sure was purty. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] I have car fever
Donald Snook wrote: My wife gets annoyed buy this ... Craig wrote: A Freudian slip? Yea probably. My wife is pretty understanding about my car fever. When I used to work at a dealership, I had constant access to decent wholesale cars. After the first few cars that I talked to my wife about, she said I don't care if you buy another car as long as we don't lose money and as long as you don't sell my car. In two years time, I bought and sold 22 cars and a lot of fun doing it. I have been married 8 years and in that time, I have had at least 30 cars but my wife has had three. I really enjoyed buying and selling those cars. I had to slow it down and regulate it a little more. I got a letter from the State Of Missouri that if I sold one more car in the calendar year, I would have to get a dealer's license. Most of the cars I bought were $1500-3000 that I could turn around and sell (after a little sweat equity and minor repairs) for $2500-4500. It was fun. The first car I bought (in order to fix it up and sell) was a 1982 Honda Accord with 280,000 miles. I bought it for $200 and sold it for $600. I also paid $700 for a 1982 300D with bad motor mounts, tight valves (that wouldn't start without lots of coaxing). I fixed it up, cleaned it up, and drove it for six months before selling it for $2000. The buyer became a friend of mine and the car lasted to over 400K miles. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
[MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Hello; I plan to replace my tach and non working clock with a remanufactured unit I bought. Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on it's side like the 126 model does? Also wondering what cables to expect behind it, is there one for the tach and speedo? Should I disconnect the cables for the battery? _ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
My friend Steve (actually our former landlord for the office) tells of one of his granddaughters arguing that she could do anything he could do but better. She was probably 18 to 20 at the time. He suggested they step outside and see who could pee the furthest. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on its side like the 126 model does? Yep, pretty much. Also wondering what cables to expect behind it, is there one for the tach and speedo? Speedo, oil pressure. Then a bunch of electrical connectors such as the main cluster plug, the tach, the clock, and some indicator lights. It's no big deal, once you've gotten it pulled out. Should I disconnect the cables for the battery? Some do, some don't. The worst you're likely to do is blow the clock (unswitched) fuse if you don't. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
Sure, each gender tends to play a role, and responsibilities are worked out within the relationship. I take out the trash and she changes the sheets on the bed. We never verbally worked this out. We each really cook for ourselves, but I hate to tell you, she (wifey) shows more proclivity for cooking, and I have none. If she finds herself cooking for me, she gets very defensive, but she still finds herself doing it once in a while despite the fact that I have NEVER asked her to do so. Gender differences is all I'm sayin' - like it or not. But I'm speaking to the ineptitude that women naturally have for understanding the way mechanical things work. Yes, physical strength comes into play, but setting that aside, the majority of women literally do not know how to change a tire. Fun stuff. Brian On 2/9/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just like most men are happy to have women cook for them (myself included - even though I am comfortable working in the kitchen). On 2/8/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
I never got into such a contest, but I'm told if I ever do not to agree to a 'no use of hands' rule. We would all lose. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! My friend Steve (actually our former landlord for the office) tells of one of his granddaughters arguing that she could do anything he could do but better. She was probably 18 to 20 at the time. He suggested they step outside and see who could pee the furthest. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! Wow. Some pretty amazing tales. Guess I don't have as much to complain (to myself) about as I thought. I enjoy asking a woman who has just proclaimed that women can do anything men can do if she can change a car tire. The cycling group I sometimes ride in has some female lawyers and surgeons, etc. They can't fix a flat on their bikes. I think that some women are quite happy with this arrangement, but others literally don't know how to do the task. Brian On 2/8/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife has been complaining that the SDL's keyless entry isn't working again. I looked, and the wiring is again puddled in water and corroded away. I fixed it. Again. I don't know how many times I have to tell her that the trunk seal does _not_ work well, and I doubt it can ever be made to work well. (The car has been hit in the rear at least twice, the body shop work is adequate, but not great. I have worked on that seal many times, it just won't seal well.) You _can't_ take this car through an automatic car wash without filling the trunk with water. Yet that's what she does. Regularly. And she's always so proud of how clean it is then... I dried the spare tire well, and cleaned out the drain holes. (The drain works, but that doesn't mean that water doesn't slosh around in there some. The drain has kept the keyless module and the door lock pump themselves from flooding, but the wiring still gets wet.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M1 15k Oil
Thanks Marshall/Tom - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 15k Oil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The limit to consider is not the oil breaking down but possibly the oil filters ability to handle these extended runs. ie it fills up with stuff. I go 6 to 7K on my 1979 240D used to go 10K but figured the filters may be limited. This is with 15/50 Mobil 1. That is every other month the way I drive. With a properly running Mercedes diesel and approved oil using low or ultra low sulfur diesel fuel the problem isn't oil or additive breakdown or the filter capacity but the soot load that collects (soot is NOT filtered out - it's suspended in the oil and removed by changing the oil). If proper filtering were to be introduced and maintained (may require filter changes every few thousand miles or more often under bad conditions), an extended change oil need not be changed for 50kmi or more. This is NOT practical for most passenger cars and is NOT how Mercedes choose to go. Most OM60x engines in good condition that see at least half of their mileage on the highway and don't see a LOT of harsh weather, soot rarely becomes a problem in less than 7.5kmi and may not reach the limit for 15kmi. If largely city driven or driven in harsh weather conditions soot levels may increase much more rapidly. The older OM61x engines seem to generate more soot sooner, but I don't know if that's just because they are older and have more wear or because they don't burn the fuel quite as efficiently (they don't) and that generate more soot. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stopped smoking
As some of you suggested back when I complained about my 300 SD smoking and running rough at start up, the cure turned out to be new glow plugs. The smoking continued to get worse until last Monday when it simply did not stop even after 5 minutes. It did stop on the way to the shop, but I was having visions of valve seal repairs. A quick scan with a temp sensor showed at least one cylinder cooler than the others. On the theory that they all had been in use for the same amount of time I just replaced them all. Not even a hit of smoke [that shows in the mirrors] on start up, and smooth from the start. I am happy. On an almost related note, there is a 300TD at his shop that needs more repairs that the college kid owner can afford. I am told that the engine needs some major work, but the body looks good at a 30' look. I didn't look at the interior. Anyone have interest if the kid decides to abandon it or sell it cheap? BillR -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070209/3e9744ba/attachment.gif
Re: [MBZ] Stopped smoking
Color? Rust? Where is it? Will it drive? On 2/9/07, Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As some of you suggested back when I complained about my 300 SD smoking and running rough at start up, the cure turned out to be new glow plugs. The smoking continued to get worse until last Monday when it simply did not stop even after 5 minutes. It did stop on the way to the shop, but I was having visions of valve seal repairs. A quick scan with a temp sensor showed at least one cylinder cooler than the others. On the theory that they all had been in use for the same amount of time I just replaced them all. Not even a hit of smoke [that shows in the mirrors] on start up, and smooth from the start. I am happy. On an almost related note, there is a 300TD at his shop that needs more repairs that the college kid owner can afford. I am told that the engine needs some major work, but the body looks good at a 30' look. I didn't look at the interior. Anyone have interest if the kid decides to abandon it or sell it cheap? BillR -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070209/3e9744ba/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Black '85 300D update
Well, Dad and I went out yesterday to take a look at it. before we got there, the owner had started it up and turned it around in the driveway. He left it idling for a couple minutes before it died. Since it had been sitting for a few months, I tried the primer pump which he knew nothin' about and proceeded to attempt a prime. A moderate amount of fuel gushed out (old screw-in type), and I couldn't get the necessary 10psi behind it to kick excess fuel past the squeaky sounding valve that routes it back to the tank. It caught on three cyls, but not enough to get it to run. We tried a little starting fluid which did very little. Next, we tried jumping it to get a bit more cranking speed, but still no go. The owner left the charger on it all night to get the battery up to the max. He just called me to inform me that it still wouldn't start. Even if it starts which is unlikely, the car is nothing special, pealing clearcoat, cracks in the interior including dash cracking and major cracking in the top of the rear seatback, missing dash wood trim, non-working radio, and hey, it's a non-runner at present. It does have new tires on Bundts and a passenger's side mirror, so it's worth at least $500. Believe it or not, the trunk is DRY! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] WAS Black '85 300D update NOW Fuel leak from canister 85 300CD
The 1985 300 CD is leaking fuel from the TOP of the main fuel filter canister, right under the 19 mm (?) bolt that secures the filter. I can't possibly tighten it any more. I wonder if there is a small metal gasket that should be there belowe the head of the bolt - does anyone know? The car is really nice so it offends me to smell the fuel aroma coming from under the hood when the engine is purring away. :( Andrew 1985 300CD 1983 300TD On 2/9/07, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Dad and I went out yesterday to take a look at it. before we got there, the owner had started it up and turned it around in the driveway. He left it idling for a couple minutes before it died. Since it had been sitting for a few months, I tried the primer pump which he knew nothin' about and proceeded to attempt a prime. A moderate amount of fuel gushed out (old screw-in type), and I couldn't get the necessary 10psi behind it to kick excess fuel past the squeaky sounding valve that routes it back to the tank. It caught on three cyls, but not enough to get it to run. We tried a little starting fluid which did very little. Next, we tried jumping it to get a bit more cranking speed, but still no go. The owner left the charger on it all night to get the battery up to the max. He just called me to inform me that it still wouldn't start. Even if it starts which is unlikely, the car is nothing special, pealing clearcoat, cracks in the interior including dash cracking and major cracking in the top of the rear seatback, missing dash wood trim, non-working radio, and hey, it's a non-runner at present. It does have new tires on Bundts and a passenger's side mirror, so it's worth at least $500. Believe it or not, the trunk is DRY! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
The best method is to push it from behind after disconnecting the speedo cable, the problem with using coathangers is the potential to cause damage. The cluster can be fairly tight in there and if you are going to push from behind, place a towel in front of the cluster as you push it. Why? Because it may come out with a rush and break of one of the little knobs on the front. How do I know? Because I have not been able to set my clock since the last time I removed the cluster. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on its side like the 126 model does? Yep, pretty much.
[MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Should I disconnect the cables for the battery? Some do, some don't. The worst you're likely to do is blow the clock (unswitched) fuse if you don't. -- Jim Thanks Jim, But could you go a little deeper in the meaning of the unswitched fuse? For the clock. That is the reason behind taking out IC the tach/clock, the clock is non functioning is there a fuse to it? Bought a re-mfg tach/clock for $45.00. Roger _ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2
[MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo.... clarification
As I stated in my origional email The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. The numbers on the 87 300D : 6.5JX15H2 ET49 The numbers on the 6 rims that I bought: 6JX15H2 ET49 I assumed the only difference between these rims, since the numbers are exact is the width of the rim? Will these handle the same load range? Hope this clarifies my origional post. Jim Cathey: The 300D is holding up great, she just runs and runs and runs... as do most... what are you driving now? Thanks, Rick From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 10 00:17:52 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.224]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HFfw8-0002Nt-GP for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:17:52 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so913664nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.192.1 with SMTP id p1mr5702119waf.1171066630796; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.18.19 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:17:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:17:10 -0800 From: Aaron Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo clarification X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:17:52 - You shouldn't have any problems. In the rest of the world, lower-spec 124s came with 15x6 wheels. -Aaron On 2/9/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I stated in my origional email The rest of the numbers all match, the only difference is the .5. The numbers on the 87 300D : 6.5JX15H2 ET49 The numbers on the 6 rims that I bought: 6JX15H2 ET49 I assumed the only difference between these rims, since the numbers are exact is the width of the rim? Will these handle the same load range? Hope this clarifies my origional post. Jim Cathey: The 300D is holding up great, she just runs and runs and runs... as do most... what are you driving now? Thanks, Rick
