Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal
That is the problem presented to the US population. we do not understand it vs. acid rain is a chemical reaction from CO2 Looking at this issue over the last 150 years, the ponds and rivers will never get polluted, and it did.. The Greats Lakes will never get polluted because it is so large, and they did. The Oceans will not get polluted because their size is so great and it did. The air is so large and huge it will not be polluted and it happen .. and the list can go on in other words, RED FLAGS are flying from the past events of pollution and what is facing us today.If we are to learn from history, the rate of increase of pollution is very positive to the other counter effects. In other words, input of pollution is not equally neutralized by other effects. The pollution rate of growth is very positive looking at the way the WHOLE WORLD is on the path of Industrialization. New pollution factories are coming on line and CO2 is increasing which will cause this and that issue. This whole environment issue has a solid ONE ITEM linkage to the 911 commission report. Many, many red flag warning are told and reported from bottom to top. Few people are moved by the red flags. A few people take the falling red flag and wave it to warn againbut few listen and none actthe rest is history. Bill Hendrik Riessen wrote: The problem I see is that we do not understand enough about our atmosphere and how everything interacts. This is a number one priority as far as I am concerned. We have to know what is going on. If scientists continue to just guess, pretty soon the average person is going to lose interest and start thinking that it is just a big hooh haah to get money for research. Once we know what is happening we can prioritise our efforts to reverse the damage, no good focusing on one thing only to find that thing is not as much of a problem as something else. I remember seeing something on TV a while back that showed how pollution is actually keeping the planet cool by creating a layer of smog that acts as a shield. This program used the grounding of all aircraft in the US after 9/11 to give an example of the theory. It showed that due to the lack of commercial aircraft in the air and a subsequent reduction in jet emmisions, all of a sudden there was a relatively massive jump in temperatures across the US. What I got out of this TV show was that we know very little about what is going on up there and a lot of the current knowledge is guesswork and theories. - Original Message - From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal Correction: It's parts per million in volume and cause of acid rain CO2 levels are at very small amount in the air around the earth, SNIPPED ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bulbs Too hot for dash light pipes
Thanks Craig for the tip, using aluminum foil as reflector, on dash light wrap around back side of light pipes; how about chrome mylar?? thanks, Steve
Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash
Anyone tried using some bright white LEDs? They are pretty cheap, run cool, and don't draw much current. --R
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
Same color as my pre-Benz car, the Acura Integra. But I think $3500 is a bit steep for a starting bid, perhaps? By the way, that is over on the west coast of Iowa, about two hours away from me. On 2/10/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-86-MERCEDES-BENZ-300-SDL-VIPER-RED-DIESEL-MOON-ROOF_W0QQitemZ320081091653QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] cheap 2.5 turbo
Werner Fehlauer wrote: For a car with that low mileage to break a timing chain tells me that someone was careless about oil changes, and the cruddy inside of the engine suggests that cheap dino oil was occasionally changed. Wonder when and if the tranny and diff, brake fluid, etc were changed? Sure looks like a $500 pile of parts at best! Werner That car/year was among those some of which had defective timing chains as outlined in TSB 05/93 (dated 11/95). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] instrument cluster removal
Someone on the list suggested that paint can openers from the hardware store make excellent cluster pullers. Haven't tried them myself. The FEMA guy from New York I think. Harry On 2/10/07, Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Werner - I had indeed made them too short. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] instrument cluster removal Bill - the hooks should be about 6 long, or enough for you to get a good grip on them with your knuckles clear of the dash pad. The placement is about 3-4 up from the bottom, on each side, carefully inserted between the dash covering and the plastic molded IC cluster. When you get it out, you will see an area where there are actually some teeth to catch the hook, but you have to use the braille method to find them the first time. Werner - Original Message - From: Billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] instrument cluster removal I need to pull the instrument cluster on my 1981 300SD as I do think I have a short or two [oil pressure pegs when the key is turned on, plus a couple of other irregularities]. I have seen it done, but that was some time ago. I made a couple of hooks out of coat hanger, but I think they might have been too short. How long should they be, and what is the best spot to insert them? Thanks in advance - BillR, Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 284k miles -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 145 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070210/3c1 7edd7/attachment.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal
Acid rain was caused by sulpher compounds dumped into the air by power plants and had nothing to do with CO2. The problem was solved by installing scrubbers in the stacks. Tom Hargrave -Original Message- From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/10/07 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal That is the problem presented to the US population. we do not understand it vs. acid rain is a chemical reaction from CO2 Looking at this issue over the last 150 years, the ponds and rivers will never get polluted, and it did.. The Greats Lakes will never get polluted because it is so large, and they did. The Oceans will not get polluted because their size is so great and it did. The air is so large and huge it will not be polluted and it happen .. and the list can go on in other words, RED FLAGS are flying from the past events of pollution and what is facing us today.If we are to learn from history, the rate of increase of pollution is very positive to the other counter effects. In other words, input of pollution is not equally neutralized by other effects. The pollution rate of growth is very positive looking at the way the WHOLE WORLD is on the path of Industrialization. New pollution factories are coming on line and CO2 is increasing which will cause this and that issue. This whole environment issue has a solid ONE ITEM linkage to the 911 commission report. Many, many red flag warning are told and reported from bottom to top. Few people are moved by the red flags. A few people take the falling red flag and wave it to warn againbut few listen and none actthe rest is history. Bill Hendrik Riessen wrote: The problem I see is that we do not understand enough about our atmosphere and how everything interacts. This is a number one priority as far as I am concerned. We have to know what is going on. If scientists continue to just guess, pretty soon the average person is going to lose interest and start thinking that it is just a big hooh haah to get money for research. Once we know what is happening we can prioritise our efforts to reverse the damage, no good focusing on one thing only to find that thing is not as much of a problem as something else. I remember seeing something on TV a while back that showed how pollution is actually keeping the planet cool by creating a layer of smog that acts as a shield. This program used the grounding of all aircraft in the US after 9/11 to give an example of the theory. It showed that due to the lack of commercial aircraft in the air and a subsequent reduction in jet emmisions, all of a sudden there was a relatively massive jump in temperatures across the US. What I got out of this TV show was that we know very little about what is going on up there and a lot of the current knowledge is guesswork and theories. - Original Message - From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal Correction: It's parts per million in volume and cause of acid rain CO2 levels are at very small amount in the air around the earth, SNIPPED ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] instrument cluster removal
Harry Watkins wrote: Someone on the list suggested that paint can openers from the hardware store make excellent cluster pullers. Haven't tried them myself. The FEMA guy from New York I think. Yep, it was Berryman. Speaking of FEMA, a friend of mine seemed put out because FEMA wouldn't do anything for him last weekend. His mobile home in Lady Lake got ripped in half with him in it last Friday. FEMA basically said you've got insurance, you've got a camping trailer that the tornado didn't clobber, you've got another home in Michigan, you've got a car that works, what do you want from us? In a way, I'm thinking that's responsible non-use of gov't resources. My friend, OTOH, would really have appreciated it if FEMA could have loaned him a portable generator and given him some water while he cleans of the debris. (I think the Salvation Army and Red Cross probably had the water and food situation taken care of) Hopefully he has the remains of his winter home disposed of by now and is on his way to the Keys for a vacation before he makes an early return to Michigan next month. I hope the Keys don't get hurricanes in February. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]
It appears they do a silver plate kit. Which they say is ideal for headlight reflectors. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps] http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/plugnplate.htm This looks like what you mean. The kits under chrome plating are hundreds of dollars. Yeah. Headlight reflectors aren't chrome. They're silver, or aluminum. -- Jim
[MBZ] Engine Sludge: When Good Oil Goes Bad
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/automobiles/04SLUDGE.html?ex=1171256400en=8cc685238e761970ei=5070 --R
[MBZ] A Love-Hate Relationship Bears a 50-State Diesel
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/automobiles/15DIESEL.html?ex=1171256400en=8051f72710dd5408ei=5070
[MBZ] Brighter bulbs in dash
Great idea Rich!; i don't recall the resister value to use from 13-14 volts to voltage of leds; that the reflective foil might be interesting to try?? Steve
Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:14:05 -0600 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone tried using some bright white LEDs? They are pretty cheap, run cool, and don't draw much current. I tried some super-bright LEDs in the instrument cluster when I was rebuilding our car in 2002. They were not bright enough and I changed back to light bulbs. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Brighter bulbs in dash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea Rich!; i don't recall the resister value to use from 13-14 volts to voltage of leds; that the reflective foil might be interesting to try?? I believe the blues and whites are usually in the 3.5-4V range, the voltage and current specs should come with the LEDs. The resistor value would depend on the current rating of the emitter. You'd want to figure the resistance for about a 10-11V drop (or put several LEDs in series). I suspect the car's voltage regulator and dash lamp rheostat could drive 5 or 6 LEDs in series. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:07:20 +1030 Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears they do a silver plate kit. Which they say is ideal for headlight reflectors. But what happens when the silver tarnishes? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:14:05 -0600 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried some super-bright LEDs in the instrument cluster when I was rebuilding our car in 2002. They were not bright enough and I changed back to light bulbs. Were they underdriven? If you can find a cheap source for Luxeon Stars (I see aluminum flashlights with 1W Luxeons for $18, so they must be selling for well under $10 each now) you'll have all the lumens you could possibly want (30-50 lumens per emitter). I bought one of the cheap Dorcy lights (about a $18 item at W-mart) and it's not far shy of a 2 or 3 cell Maglight. I believe you can now get a Maglight with 3W Luxeon for about $30. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] A Love-Hate Relationship Bears a 50-State Diesel
- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] A Love-Hate Relationship Bears a 50-State Diesel http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/automobiles/15DIESEL.html?ex=1171256400en=8051f72710dd5408ei=5070 I wonder if the beauracrats in California (and their copy cats) will increase their strict requirements a few months before Honda and the others offer their 50-state cars? If their track record is any indication, they will manage to keep Diesels out of their states as usual! Werner
Re: [MBZ] instrument cluster removal
Mitch - I've only been down there 70 - 80 times [inlaws lived there for 20 years and it was part of my territory for 11 years], and while hurricanes are somewhat unpredictable I think it safe to say one will not hit in February. The other factor down in the lower keys is that there is nothing to let the water stack up and get too deep. It just flows througn into the gulf. Doesn't help with wind, though. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 10, 2007 7:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] instrument cluster removal Harry Watkins wrote: Someone on the list suggested that paint can openers from the hardware store make excellent cluster pullers. Haven't tried them myself. The FEMA guy from New York I think. Yep, it was Berryman. Speaking of FEMA, a friend of mine seemed put out because FEMA wouldn't do anything for him last weekend. His mobile home in Lady Lake got ripped in half with him in it last Friday. FEMA basically said you've got insurance, you've got a camping trailer that the tornado didn't clobber, you've got another home in Michigan, you've got a car that works, what do you want from us? In a way, I'm thinking that's responsible non-use of gov't resources. My friend, OTOH, would really have appreciated it if FEMA could have loaned him a portable generator and given him some water while he cleans of the debris. (I think the Salvation Army and Red Cross probably had the water and food situation taken care of) Hopefully he has the remains of his winter home disposed of by now and is on his way to the Keys for a vacation before he makes an early return to Michigan next month. I hope the Keys don't get hurricanes in February. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:54:22 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:14:05 -0600 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried some super-bright LEDs in the instrument cluster when I was rebuilding our car in 2002. They were not bright enough and I changed back to light bulbs. Were they underdriven? Having been an electronic engineer for 20 years, no. If you can find a cheap source for Luxeon Stars (I see aluminum flashlights with 1W Luxeons for $18, so they must be selling for well under $10 each now) you'll have all the lumens you could possibly want (30-50 lumens per emitter). I bought one of the cheap Dorcy lights (about a $18 item at W-mart) and it's not far shy of a 2 or 3 cell Maglight. I believe you can now get a Maglight with 3W Luxeon for about $30. LEDs have changed a lot since 2002. Looking at http://members.misty.com/don/ledx.html, a typical operation point for ultrabright LEDs is 350 mA with a 2.95 volt typical voltage drop. This means 1 watt is dissipated in the LED. If you use two of them in series, that will give a 6 volt drop in the LEDs. Running off a car battery that's being charged (14 V, roughly) means that 8 V or 2.8 watts need to be dropped in an external resistor (unless you want to have a switching power supply drive the LEDs). A reasonable derating of a power resistor would require a 5 watt resistor, of which an Ohmite 25 series is a representative example. (http://www.ohmite.com/catalog/pdf/20_series.pdf) It is 1 long and 0.28 diameter. Ohmite doesn't, unfortunately, give any information about how hot they get, but from past experience, I can tell you they get quite hot. You'd want a 22 or 25 ohm resistor. You could not use the car's dash lamp rheostat for the job if you wanted other lights (the one that illuminates the fiber optics to light the switches, for example) to function properly. Craig
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
On Feb 10, 2007, at 4:58 AM, LarryT wrote: A friend of mine held a pretty high position at NASA and was called on to visit colleges and universities on vaarious occassions. One time at UVA (IIRC) he visited a Mech Engr lab and saw a rear axle assy in the middle of the floor. Between classes he asked the professor for the reason they had the rear axle assy. He was told, If these kids lear *anything* they're going to learn how to change a tire. Seems something like 90%+ had no idea how to change a tire. Ah, so at our MBCA event tomorrow at the dealer we're going to learn how to change a tire... This might seem rather fundamental but I suspect that a huge percent of the folks attending wouldn't know how. Also having a son in Mech Engineering I can assume you that picking any of his classmates at random he (she? nah no women in sight) might know what torque means in theory, but if you would give them a torque wrench they would struggle with clockwise to tighten? Or is that anti-clockwise... Sad and scary... PS yes although the eng dept hands out millions in bursaries to women it seems the women view it as a way to pay their way into biology, law, etc, anything but engineering come their second year. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]
But what happens when the silver tarnishes? You re-do it. -- Jim
[MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Thanks to all who replied concerning the IC removal. I did remove the steering wheel which did give me more room to work with. It was not a quick procedure. Not much room to get a hand behind there to unscrew the speedo cable or to reattach. But with careful patience and a few dad gum its, the re-mfg tach/clock are in and functioning along with a re-mfg cruise amp. I don't have a heated garage so I left the car run with the heater on until it was time to unscrew the oil pressure line, I believe the outside temp was a balmy 0 degrees F. Thanks to all. Roger _ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095tcode=wlmtagline
Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:34:22 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what happens when the silver tarnishes? You re-do it. And how often is that? Like every couple of years, like our silverplate serving dishes? Craig
Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]
And how often is that? Like every couple of years, like our silverplate serving dishes? I have no idea, but I know that silver is what was used in older automobiles. Before vaporized aluminum came along. It may be that they're lacquered for protection, or it may be that the nearly-sealed environment slows down the oxidation/sulfuration. -- Jim
[MBZ] O.T- The Knack
I dunno if this workedbut this is dead-nuts on. Bob R. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TheKnack.mpg Type: video/mpeg Size: 2398212 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070210/c8f4c3a8/attachment.mpg
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
I wrote the guy. Here's what he said. By the way, if you notice the landscape and buildings shown in his picture, that is stereotypical Iowa farm look. --- hey you are right.i didnt pay much attention t othe tach when i pulled this car from my garage i havnt drove car much lately.the front bumper probably needs aligned it was removed for paint,i will pull it in my shop monday and realign.if interested come and drive you are only 45 min. away.thanks On 2/10/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What wasn't mentioned is that the tach shows zero rpm while the oil pressure is apparently at idle; the headlight wipers are out of whack; the bling wheel arches; and a strange misalignment of hood/grill/front bumper. And why not paint the front fender cross brace red? Wonder what other ills are hidden or forgotten??? Werner - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-86-MERCEDES-BENZ-300-SDL-VIPER-RED-DIESEL-MOON-ROOF_W0QQitemZ320081091653QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] WAS Black '85 300D update NOW Fuel leak from canister 85 300CD
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, andrew strasfogel wrote: The 1985 300 CD is leaking fuel from the TOP of the main fuel filter canister, right under the 19 mm (?) bolt that secures the filter. I can't possibly tighten it any more. I wonder if there is a small metal gasket that should be there belowe the head of the bolt - does anyone know? The car is really nice so it offends me to smell the fuel aroma coming from under the hood when the engine is purring away. :( The bolt is a hollow bolt with two o-rings on the bolt itself that seal it top and bottom. There should no t be a metal crush ring up there, and hopefully the filter mounting block is not too boogered up. -j.
Re: [MBZ] O.T- The Knack
oh, it's funny stuff. ... utter social ineptitude. On 2/10/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dunno if this workedbut this is dead-nuts on. Bob R. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TheKnack.mpg Type: video/mpeg Size: 2398212 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070210/c8f4c3a8/attachment.mpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D inst. cluster removal hint
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as Jim states, the non insulated spade lug going to clock; seems to be only thing that can blow a fuse if touched to back of metal on inst. cluster; after getting tired of changing fuses every time i pull cluster ; i change mine to insulated one so doesn't blow fuses anymore Remove this connection last and you won't have any problems. Doubly so with a 126 chassis, since the ground is on the large connector and a trace on the speedo PC board is what provides the ground connection to the clock. Let it contact the metal back of a clock on a 126 and you will see sparks, and the fuse that blows is the trace on the PC board, leaving you with a non-functioning speedo, among other things. Don't ask how I know! -j.
Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash
On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point Jim; I'll keep an eye out for melting light pipes; if they do melt i will change bulbs back replace dash housing with one of my many others Actually, if you just replace the bulbs with the proper new bulbs ordered from Rusty, you will be AMAZED at the difference! The old ones darken with age and give much less light. The proper bulbs are relatively expensive ($3-4 each?) but well worth it. -j.
Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Mitch Haley wrote: Were they underdriven? If you can find a cheap source for Luxeon Stars (I see aluminum flashlights with 1W Luxeons for $18, so they must be selling for well under $10 each now) you'll have all the lumens you could possibly want (30-50 lumens per emitter). I bought one of the cheap Dorcy lights (about a $18 item at W-mart) and it's not far shy of a 2 or 3 cell Maglight. I believe you can now get a Maglight with 3W Luxeon for about $30. Mitch. My experience is that lightbulbs have a omnidirectional radiation pattern, where LED's have a pretty narrow cone of illumination (between 15 and 30 degrees. MAYBE 45.), and the light pipes are not straight ahead of where the bulb sits -j.
[MBZ] AC Compressor woes...
Gents, I seem to recall a discussion at one time about AC compressors on 123's being mounted upside down...and if not mounted right side up, failing due to improper oil distribution in the compressor... Anybody remember or know the answer? My compressor has once again seized up, and last time I was under there, I thought I noticed that it seemed like it was upside down from what I remembered. My indy does all my a/c work, and this will be under warranty...just had him completely overhaul the a/c system a couple of months ago, but I'd like to solve the compressor seizeup problem once and for all. I've probably gone through 4 or 5 compressors in the past 2 or 3 years. After replacing the mono valve and resoldering the ACC board, I was getting real used to the climate control working correctly. ;-( Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:56 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 15, Issue 40 Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: diesel truck conversion (Mike Canfield) 2. Re: Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5? (Marshall Booth) 3. Re: argh, Wimmins! (andrew strasfogel) 4. Re: Key / Starter / Starting woes 79 240D (OK Don) 5. Re: I have car fever (OK Don) 6. Re: M1 15k Oil (Donald Snook) 7. Re: Euro lamps (Jim Cathey) 8. Re: Any problem using 6 rims on 1987 300D turbo instead of the stock 6.5? (Jim Cathey) 9. Re: I have car fever (Donald Snook) 10. 85 300D Instrument cluster removal (Roger Conlon) 11. Re: argh, Wimmins! (R A Bennell) 12. Re: 85 300D Instrument cluster removal (Jim Cathey) 13. Re: Key / Starter / Starting woes 79 240D (Kevin J. Slater) 14. Re: argh, Wimmins! (Zoltan Finks) 15. Re: argh, Wimmins! (Billr) 16. Re: M1 15k Oil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:23:24 -0500 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I think the old Chevy and a 300D would be pretty close to the same weight empty.. As far as driving an underpowered dog of a truck I can tell you for sure that the 240D engine would suck in a truck. My 78HP flathead gasser in the M37 is OK rolling down the flat road but the slightest hill and you are crawling carrying a load. A pickup NEEDS the extra power to be usefull. If you are only concerned about economy leave the engine in the Benz. Mike - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion I might be able to live with a very fuel efficient dog. My father at one time had a 67 Ford pickup. It came with a 352 cid V8 and he later swapped in a 240 cid inline 6, because he was unhappy with the mileage. It was OK empty but one had to slip the clutch a bit to get moving if it was loaded. However, once moving down the highway it would really cruise and was very good on gas. I never expressly checked but I assume it had a pretty high rearend. I suppose one might need to go the other way in terms of rear gear with a small diesel but it sure would be nice to have good mileage. It can't weigh much more than my 115 300D unless it was loaded up. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion No way...After owning my 123 240D automatic I would not even think about putting that engine in a truck. Maybe in a Toyota or the like. Only a 5cyl. and only a turbo in a truck for me. Anything less would be a dog compared to the 292 Gasser 6. Mike - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel truck conversion Have to agree with you. Couldn't do much better. I wonder if a 240D engine would have sufficient power? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
Werner Fehlauer wrote: What wasn't mentioned is that the tach shows zero rpm while the oil pressure is apparently at idle; the headlight wipers are out of whack; the bling wheel arches; and a strange misalignment of hood/grill/front bumper. And why not paint the front fender cross brace red? Wonder what other ills are hidden or forgotten??? The tach goes out if the sensor or it's connections fail (rare) or if the overvoltage relay fails (very frequent with '86-'87 diesels). I replaced all of the relays in my mid '80s diesels when each of them failed. When the relay fails, the cold idle circuit won't work and the A compressor won't come on. A new relay costs between $65-80 last time I checked. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] O.T- The Knack
Bob R et al. Thank you! I needed a good belly laugh! Wife rolled eyes though. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 11 18:12:53 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HGJC0-0004VE-R8 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:12:53 + Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id s2so329175uge for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.118.19 with SMTP id q19mr5379582huc.1171217529512; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.165.4 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:12:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:12:09 -0500 From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brighter light bulbs in dash X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:12:53 - On Sat, 10 Feb 2007, Mitch Haley wrote: Were they underdriven? If you can find a cheap source for Luxeon Stars (I see aluminum flashlights with 1W Luxeons for $18, so they must be selling for well under $10 each now) you'll have all the lumens you could possibly want (30-50 lumens per emitter). I bought one of the cheap Dorcy lights (about a $18 item at W-mart) and it's not far shy of a 2 or 3 cell Maglight. I believe you can now get a Maglight with 3W Luxeon for about $30. Mitch. My experience is that lightbulbs have a omnidirectional radiation pattern, where LED's have a pretty narrow cone of illumination (between 15 and 30 degrees. MAYBE 45.), and the light pipes are not straight ahead of where the bulb sits -j. John- With some tweaking, the LED's can still be usedthe following might help, even if wordy... http://articles.mbz.org/interior/dashlights/ Tony Wirtel
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
LT Don - there's still the small matter of the color - ticket me red is just asking for unwanted attention from the gendarmes! (perhaps that's the reason for the reasonable price??) Werner - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don I wrote the guy. Here's what he said. By the way, if you notice the landscape and buildings shown in his picture, that is stereotypical Iowa farm look. --- hey you are right.i didnt pay much attention t othe tach when i pulled this car from my garage i havnt drove car much lately.the front bumper probably needs aligned it was removed for paint,i will pull it in my shop monday and realign.if interested come and drive you are only 45 min. away.thanks On 2/10/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What wasn't mentioned is that the tach shows zero rpm while the oil pressure is apparently at idle; the headlight wipers are out of whack; the bling wheel arches; and a strange misalignment of hood/grill/front bumper. And why not paint the front fender cross brace red? Wonder what other ills are hidden or forgotten??? Werner - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-86-MERCEDES-BENZ-300-SDL-VIPER-RED-DIESEL-MOON-ROOF_W0QQitemZ320081091653QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor woes...
I seem to recall a discussion at one time about AC compressors on 123's being mounted upside down...and if not mounted right side up, failing due to improper oil distribution in the compressor... Anybody remember or know the answer? The upside-downers have a big X on them, or so I recall. Don't remember if it's molded in or what. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Bulbs Too hot for dash light pipes
I used 97% reflective mylar on my old 77 240D, but it didn't help much... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 7:13 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Bulbs Too hot for dash light pipes Thanks Craig for the tip, using aluminum foil as reflector, on dash light wrap around back side of light pipes; how about chrome mylar?? thanks, Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor woes...
Royce Engler wrote: Gents, I seem to recall a discussion at one time about AC compressors on 123's being mounted upside down...and if not mounted right side up, failing due to improper oil distribution in the compressor... Anybody remember or know the answer? My compressor has once again seized up, and last time I was under there, I thought I noticed that it seemed like it was upside down from what I remembered. My indy does all my a/c work, and this will be under warranty...just had him completely overhaul the a/c system a couple of months ago, but I'd like to solve the compressor seizeup problem once and for all. I've probably gone through 4 or 5 compressors in the past 2 or 3 years. After replacing the mono valve and resoldering the ACC board, I was getting real used to the climate control working correctly. ;-( Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K The sure fire solution is to buy the compressor from a parts supplier that will sell you a compressor that is configured to work on a Mercedes - and if it fails, will provide you with a replacement and the cost of the labor! As to the X or lack thereof: A word of advice on buying a replacement compressor: Any one you get that does NOT come from Mercedes will have the front bearing cover installed UPSIDE DOWN. Look at the cover on the front behind the clutch. It will have 4 bolts. Between 2 of the bolts will be an embossed X. This is the position of the oil hole to lube the front bearing. The R4 compressor was originally designed for GM cars with the compressor mounted on top of the engine. The X and the inlet/outlet port is UP. Mercedes used the compressor but rotated it 180 degrees and mounted it under the engine. This put the ports DOWN. Then they rotated the front cover so the X is UP. Oil does NOT flow uphill. If you use an aftermarket compressor with the X down, you will starve the front bearing of oil. It may last a week, a month, 6 months depends on the quality of the bearing they put in. I have received feedback on that information confirming that it is basically correct. That DOES NOT Mean that if you mount an R-4 upside down, it will fail prematurely - only that it is much more likely to fail prematurely if you mount it upside down. I have had many people dispute this and tell me that, I mounted my compressor without an X on it and it's still working 10-15 years later. No argument, but there really is a reason why Mercedes marked their compressors and most of the guys I've spoken with that do this for a living (and don't want comebacks) insure that they use compressors configured to work on a Mercedes. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!
There were a surprising number of women upperclass students at the open houses, tours, etc. at the University of Oklahoma Shcool of Engineering, where my son just started in mech eng. this year. He thought it was cool PS yes although the eng dept hands out millions in bursaries to women it seems the women view it as a way to pay their way into biology, law, etc, anything but engineering come their second year. John -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
That wouldn't be an issue for Lt. Don --;-) On 2/11/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don - there's still the small matter of the color - ticket me red is just asking for unwanted attention from the gendarmes! (perhaps that's the reason for the reasonable price??) Werner -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]
Well I guess when you polish the silver you pull the reflectors and give em a wipe. - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps] On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:34:22 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what happens when the silver tarnishes? You re-do it. And how often is that? Like every couple of years, like our silverplate serving dishes? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.35/680 - Release Date: 10/02/2007
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
Well, when traveling across State Lines, it isn't always guaranteed that you will get enough slack and professional courtesy - so I've adopted the plan to stay within 9.9 mph over the posted limits, especially if I'm driving a clean and shiny M-B. That seems to work most of the time on most roads. Of course, when traveling those racetracks called beltways, like around D.C., then if you're not 15 over (or more), you can get rear-ended very quickly - and it is extremely rare to see an officer risk his life to try and stop anyone, especially during rush hour (0530 to 2130, +/-)! Werner - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don That wouldn't be an issue for Lt. Don --;-) On 2/11/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don - there's still the small matter of the color - ticket me red is just asking for unwanted attention from the gendarmes! (perhaps that's the reason for the reasonable price??) Werner -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor woes...
Thanks, Marshall...that's the post I was looking for. I'll show it to my indy and file it in a safe place. Best Regards, Royce Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor woes... Royce Engler wrote: Gents, I seem to recall a discussion at one time about AC compressors on 123's being mounted upside down...and if not mounted right side up, failing due to improper oil distribution in the compressor... Anybody remember or know the answer? My compressor has once again seized up, and last time I was under there, I thought I noticed that it seemed like it was upside down from what I remembered. My indy does all my a/c work, and this will be under warranty...just had him completely overhaul the a/c system a couple of months ago, but I'd like to solve the compressor seizeup problem once and for all. I've probably gone through 4 or 5 compressors in the past 2 or 3 years. After replacing the mono valve and resoldering the ACC board, I was getting real used to the climate control working correctly. ;-( Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K The sure fire solution is to buy the compressor from a parts supplier that will sell you a compressor that is configured to work on a Mercedes - and if it fails, will provide you with a replacement and the cost of the labor! As to the X or lack thereof: A word of advice on buying a replacement compressor: Any one you get that does NOT come from Mercedes will have the front bearing cover installed UPSIDE DOWN. Look at the cover on the front behind the clutch. It will have 4 bolts. Between 2 of the bolts will be an embossed X. This is the position of the oil hole to lube the front bearing. The R4 compressor was originally designed for GM cars with the compressor mounted on top of the engine. The X and the inlet/outlet port is UP. Mercedes used the compressor but rotated it 180 degrees and mounted it under the engine. This put the ports DOWN. Then they rotated the front cover so the X is UP. Oil does NOT flow uphill. If you use an aftermarket compressor with the X down, you will starve the front bearing of oil. It may last a week, a month, 6 months depends on the quality of the bearing they put in. I have received feedback on that information confirming that it is basically correct. That DOES NOT Mean that if you mount an R-4 upside down, it will fail prematurely - only that it is much more likely to fail prematurely if you mount it upside down. I have had many people dispute this and tell me that, I mounted my compressor without an X on it and it's still working 10-15 years later. No argument, but there really is a reason why Mercedes marked their compressors and most of the guys I've spoken with that do this for a living (and don't want comebacks) insure that they use compressors configured to work on a Mercedes. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
testing From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 11 22:01:04 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HGMkq-0003lw-Hs for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:01:04 + Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so1812508nfc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr10057070bud.1171231221192; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.118.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:00:21 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:01:05 - RST 599 On 2/11/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing -- OK Don, KD5NRO
Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
only 598 here Werner WB2BRB - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] RST 599 On 2/11/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing -- OK Don, KD5NRO
Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adjust the focus on your monitor --- On 2/11/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: only 598 here Werner WB2BRB -- OK Don, KD5NRO
Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don
Werner: My driving has slowed considerably since I moved away from Woodbridge VA. Where I live now, if you drive too fast you end up smacking into a tractor or combine on a curve. ... I only go fast on a motorcycle these days, not on four wheels. On 2/11/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, when traveling across State Lines, it isn't always guaranteed that you will get enough slack and professional courtesy - so I've adopted the plan to stay within 9.9 mph over the posted limits, especially if I'm driving a clean and shiny M-B. That seems to work most of the time on most roads. Of course, when traveling those racetracks called beltways, like around D.C ., then if you're not 15 over (or more), you can get rear-ended very quickly - and it is extremely rare to see an officer risk his life to try and stop anyone, especially during rush hour (0530 to 2130, +/-)! Werner - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for LT Don That wouldn't be an issue for Lt. Don --;-) -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:00:21 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RST 599 On 2/11/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing 599 here, too, but why my email in the title? Craig
