date:20070223

Always a pleasure to discover the depth of experience and knowledge found on 
the list.

Thanks - BillR
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From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Bill - the good things about a Tsunami is that there usually is quite a 
bit

of warning, so people who live near the water can (rapidly) get to higher
ground, if they are smart enough to listen.  Alaska is on the leading edge
when it comes to the monitoring of quakes and warnings - it has so many
thousands of miles on the Pacific "ring of fire" and has had enough damage
over the years to make them pretty proficient.
Not to be an alarmist, but when we were there, the "word" was that Alaska
experienced a quake of 8 or more on average every 10 years.  They had a 
lot

of worried people in '74, 10 years after the big one in '64, and of course
nothing happened.  Statistical averages are funny that way!  So your
daughter and family may never see one at all while they are there!
There's probably a higher risk of volcanic ash from St Augustine, over 
West

of Homer, which is one of the fairly active volcanoes.  It makes the news
every few years when the steam and ash cause pilots to avoid the area...
You might want to look up on the 'net what you can learn about the Palmer
observatory - some of the stuff is in real time, as I recall.

Werner

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Cc: "Kade and Dania Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Did a quick check on Google Earth and see that the elevation of the
housing
units is 12'.  Maybe they will be on the 2nd floor.
BillR

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Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/O'Keefe vs Mercedes

2007-02-23 Thread JFreezn

 
I found the class action source for the Mercedes engine warranty  extentions. 
 Google O'keefe vs Mercedes for more info
 
Jim in Phoenix
 
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I would  suggest that anyone who is considering buying a used Benz, in  the  
late 90's era, watch out not for sludge, but major oil   consumption.  Figure 
out 
a way to drive the vehicle at least a  thousand  miles with the contingency 
being that you can give it back  if it turns out to be  an oil burner.  Or, 
maybe 
squeeze MB for  a new engine under their extended  warranty  program.




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[MBZ] A Seattle begins selling a blend of the alternative fuel station

2007-02-23 Thread Walt Lasher

Published: Friday, February 23, 2007
Biodiesel on sale at Safeway
A Seattle begins selling a blend of the alternative fuel station
Associated Press
SEATTLE - Biodiesel is flowing from pumps at a Safeway Inc. gas station
here, the first step in a test-marketing campaign that could spread the
alternative fuel to more of the company's stores.
At a grand-opening ceremony Wednesday, Mayor Greg Nickels pumped about five
gallons of the fuel - that'll be $15.36, please - into a biodiesel-burning
Volkswagen Golf.
Nickels, who has made global warming a signature issue, said broader use of
alternative fuels could help reduce the environmental effects of car
exhaust.
"Together, we're going to prove there's a market for this," he said.
Safeway, based in Pleasanton, Calif., has been selling the soybean oil fuel
in Seattle for about a week. Customers began filling up as soon as it was
available, without prompting or an advertising campaign, officials said.
The grocery store chain has about 270 gas stations in the U.S., offering
discounts of up to 10 cents a gallon for shoppers who have a Safeway club
card. Two more stations in the Seattle area could be the next targets for
selling biodiesel. There are no outlets in Snohomish County.
Safeway's biodiesel is called B-20 - a blend of 20 percent soybean oil and
80 percent conventional diesel fuel. The distributor is Tacoma-based SC
Fuels, which gets its soybean oil from the Iowa-based Renewable Energy
Group.
The fuel blend can be used in most vehicles with diesel engines with no
special modifications needed, officials said.
Cherie Myers, a regional Safeway spokeswoman, said the company saw the
environmentally conscious Northwest as a good place to test biodiesel's
commercial viability. "This was our first step. Now we're going to see how
the consumer will respond to this," Myers said.
Safeway's foray into selling biodiesel comes as alternative vehicle fuels
gain prominence across the country.
President Bush recently called for the use of 35 billion gallons of
alternative fuels such as biodiesel and ethanol by 2017, a fivefold increase
over current requirements.
Seattle-based Imperium Renewables Inc. is building an enormous biodiesel
plant near Aberdeen. The refinery would produce an estimated 100 million
gallons per year from imported raw materials.
Seattle Biodiesel, a subsidiary of Imperium, already operates the
Northwest's first commercial refinery, producing 5 million gallons of
biodiesel a year.
Safeway's move into selling alternative fuels could have a significant
effect on the market if the program expands to more stations, SC Fuels Vice
President Vince McBroom said.
"The demand is out there," he said. "But it's not widely available in a lot
of areas."
Walt Lasher
W140 S350
Seattle
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Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

2007-02-23 Thread Werner Fehlauer

Bill - the good things about a Tsunami is that there usually is quite a bit 
of warning, so people who live near the water can (rapidly) get to higher 
ground, if they are smart enough to listen.  Alaska is on the leading edge 
when it comes to the monitoring of quakes and warnings - it has so many 
thousands of miles on the Pacific "ring of fire" and has had enough damage 
over the years to make them pretty proficient.
Not to be an alarmist, but when we were there, the "word" was that Alaska 
experienced a quake of 8 or more on average every 10 years.  They had a lot 
of worried people in '74, 10 years after the big one in '64, and of course 
nothing happened.  Statistical averages are funny that way!  So your 
daughter and family may never see one at all while they are there!
There's probably a higher risk of volcanic ash from St Augustine, over West 
of Homer, which is one of the fairly active volcanoes.  It makes the news 
every few years when the steam and ash cause pilots to avoid the area...
You might want to look up on the 'net what you can learn about the Palmer 
observatory - some of the stuff is in real time, as I recall.


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Kade and Dania Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types


Did a quick check on Google Earth and see that the elevation of the 
housing

units is 12'.  Maybe they will be on the 2nd floor.
BillR

Re: [MBZ] Leak out of rubber hose behind right rear tire 83-300D


Its the sunroof drain I do believe.

Stephen D Murrell wrote:

HI; please refresh my memory of what this leak is; I think diesel fuel??;
and the cause??; thanks, Steve

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Re: [MBZ] ATF for 91 300D 2.5

2007-02-23 Thread Werner Fehlauer


LarryT -
I change the fluid and filter and gasket at the recommended intervals, which 
I'm pretty sure is 30k miles for my '90.  (I think everything is on a 5k 
multiple in the booklet I have - 5 k, 15k, 30k, etc.)

I see no reason not to change the filter when changing the fluid!

Werner
'90 D
'83SD

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From: "larry turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ATF for 91 300D 2.5



Werner (and others)
Thx for the comments about M1 ATF - It's all I will ever use -

One additional question - I was reading the OM or WSM and it said to 
change
the ATF at 24k intervals - but change the filter "every other change" -or 
at

48k intervals - unless under severe operation conditons - - (or words to
that affect).

I have always changed both filter & ATF each time I  changed fluid but 
don't

coinsider my driving to be under severe conditions.  i.e., normal highway
driving - not very dirty or dusty conditions.

While the cost of the filter is not great, the dropping of the pan to
replace it provides an extra "opportunity" to damage the gasket and 
provide

a leak for very expensive ATF.  If I should only be changing the filter
every-other change I'd prefer to do that.  Also, I would think MBs
recomendations would be on the conservative side anyway.

What do ya'll think?
;-)

Thx -
Larry

Re: [MBZ] Power loss Repair Manual

2007-02-23 Thread Susan Meintzschel


Thanks for the good Info. Max





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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power loss Repair Manual
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:44:20 +

EBay 220084576595 MAY start you on the BODY. You will still need the engine 
manual.


You will be better to get a CD and print the sections as you need them.

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> I have to floor the pedal to get going specialy up hill at 60mph and 
over
> the car runs perfect 300D 2.5 5 cyl 1992 Diesel . Perhaps some one 
knowsn.I

> am looking for a paper Repair Manual for the same car. Thanks Max
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Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John & Kevin)

2007-02-23 Thread Potter, Tom E

I know you said that the front end was rebushed, but did you replace the
bushings on the sway bar?

I would get a can of rubber lube and spray one bushing at the time until
I found the culprit.

Tom Potter

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John & Kevin)

Very rarely the track rod (aka brake support rod) BEARING on the 
control arm will go bad.  Requires removal of the control arm to fix, 
and they are expensive.  Usually that noise is the bushing on the 
firewall end, but if you've replaced them, all that's left is a bad 
bearing or a bad control arm bushing.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

2007-02-23 Thread Potter, Tom E

I had this happen to me with a VW Beetle in Norfolk, VA. The temps got
down to about 5 degrees F for a week or so. I went out to start my VW
one morning and the battery was low. Usually, just a little push is all
that is needed. When we tried to push it, the tires just skidded; the
transmission was frozen. I got some jumper cables, and a neighbor helped
me get the engine started. It took a few minutes to get it moving after
that. 

I go through all this just to emphasize that the transmission and
differential lubes are important in cold weather.

Tom Potter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 6:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

... I saw one greenhorn from the lower 48 
have problems with the first cold snap (-30F), where his 4 cylinder '60s

Scout engine started, but didn't have enough power to turn the wheels as
the 
diff had solid, frozen lube in it.

Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Did a quick check on Google Earth and see that the elevation of the housing 
units is 12'.  Maybe they will be on the 2nd floor.

BillR
- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Bill - I'm sure that your daughter will, from time to time, get "cabin
fever" and want to get to more civilization, such as Anchorage, or perhaps
even Seattle.  It seems most Alaska residents get that itch from time to
time.
Probably the most important thing to remember is that you have to be
prepared for Mother Nature.  The winters can be very un-forgiving -
experienced residents don't go out in their cars in winter without extra
clothing, some food, fuel, a way to make heat (candles are OK), and a 
means

of signaling for help.
"Coasties" know the need for preparedness better than most when it comes 
to

water, and PW Sound and the Gulf of Alaska can be very rough.  But the way
out of Valdez by road requires a drive into the interior, where the
temperatures can get to -70 F in winter! (a good thing to consider is
synthetic lubes in transmissions, differentials, besides engines.)
When we were there in the early 70s, I saw one greenhorn from the lower 48
have problems with the first cold snap (-30F), where his 4 cylinder '60s
Scout engine started, but didn't have enough power to turn the wheels as 
the

diff had solid, frozen lube in it.
But the scenery is beyond description and worth every moment we spent 
there.
I hope they enjoy as much of it as they can get to - the Kenai, Denali, 
the

interior, etc.  Our entire family wanted to go back there, but economic
realities and family concerns kept us from moving back.   Its still #1 for
us in the USA!

Werner
'83SD
'90 D

- Original Message - 
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Kade and Dania Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Thanks Werner - It is helpful for us to know a bit about where the kids -
and our next grandchild - will be.  They will be living in base housing.
There are 28 buildings in a block not very far from the ocean, but hard 
to

tell from a look at 'Google Earth' how high it is.  The sad thing is that
I
can't get the boy interested in .
MB diesels - he seems fixated on rebuilding 60's American cars and 
trucks.

I guess it could be worse/
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  285k miles

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Re: [MBZ] ATF for 91 300D 2.5

2007-02-23 Thread larry turner


Werner (and others)
Thx for the comments about M1 ATF - It's all I will ever use -

One additional question - I was reading the OM or WSM and it said to change 
the ATF at 24k intervals - but change the filter "every other change" -or at 
48k intervals - unless under severe operation conditons - - (or words to 
that affect).


I have always changed both filter & ATF each time I  changed fluid but don't 
coinsider my driving to be under severe conditions.  i.e., normal highway 
driving - not very dirty or dusty conditions.


While the cost of the filter is not great, the dropping of the pan to 
replace it provides an extra "opportunity" to damage the gasket and provide 
a leak for very expensive ATF.  If I should only be changing the filter 
every-other change I'd prefer to do that.  Also, I would think MBs 
recomendations would be on the conservative side anyway.


What do ya'll think?
;-)

Thx -
Larry

Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Now I'm sure we will visit - in the summer!
BillR
- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Bill - I'm sure that your daughter will, from time to time, get "cabin
fever" and want to get to more civilization, such as Anchorage, or perhaps
even Seattle.  It seems most Alaska residents get that itch from time to
time.
Probably the most important thing to remember is that you have to be
prepared for Mother Nature.  The winters can be very un-forgiving -
experienced residents don't go out in their cars in winter without extra
clothing, some food, fuel, a way to make heat (candles are OK), and a 
means

of signaling for help.
"Coasties" know the need for preparedness better than most when it comes 
to

water, and PW Sound and the Gulf of Alaska can be very rough.  But the way
out of Valdez by road requires a drive into the interior, where the
temperatures can get to -70 F in winter! (a good thing to consider is
synthetic lubes in transmissions, differentials, besides engines.)
When we were there in the early 70s, I saw one greenhorn from the lower 48
have problems with the first cold snap (-30F), where his 4 cylinder '60s
Scout engine started, but didn't have enough power to turn the wheels as 
the

diff had solid, frozen lube in it.
But the scenery is beyond description and worth every moment we spent 
there.
I hope they enjoy as much of it as they can get to - the Kenai, Denali, 
the

interior, etc.  Our entire family wanted to go back there, but economic
realities and family concerns kept us from moving back.   Its still #1 for
us in the USA!

Werner
'83SD
'90 D

- Original Message - 
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Kade and Dania Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Thanks Werner - It is helpful for us to know a bit about where the kids -
and our next grandchild - will be.  They will be living in base housing.
There are 28 buildings in a block not very far from the ocean, but hard 
to

tell from a look at 'Google Earth' how high it is.  The sad thing is that
I
can't get the boy interested in .
MB diesels - he seems fixated on rebuilding 60's American cars and 
trucks.

I guess it could be worse/
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  285k miles

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Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John & Kevin)

2007-02-23 Thread jwreames

I can vouch to that as well. you have to remove the lower spring seat to gain 
access to the bolt securing it.

BTW replacing all the rubber/bushings/ball joints/tie rod ends etc makes the 
car handle SWEET... like a new barge :) 

-j.
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> Very rarely the track rod (aka brake support rod) BEARING on the 
> control arm will go bad. Requires removal of the control arm to fix, 
> and they are expensive. Usually that noise is the bushing on the 
> firewall end, but if you've replaced them, all that's left is a bad 
> bearing or a bad control arm bushing. 
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Bill - I'm sure that your daughter will, from time to time, get "cabin 
fever" and want to get to more civilization, such as Anchorage, or perhaps 
even Seattle.  It seems most Alaska residents get that itch from time to 
time.
Probably the most important thing to remember is that you have to be 
prepared for Mother Nature.  The winters can be very un-forgiving - 
experienced residents don't go out in their cars in winter without extra 
clothing, some food, fuel, a way to make heat (candles are OK), and a means 
of signaling for help.
"Coasties" know the need for preparedness better than most when it comes to 
water, and PW Sound and the Gulf of Alaska can be very rough.  But the way 
out of Valdez by road requires a drive into the interior, where the 
temperatures can get to -70 F in winter! (a good thing to consider is 
synthetic lubes in transmissions, differentials, besides engines.)
When we were there in the early 70s, I saw one greenhorn from the lower 48 
have problems with the first cold snap (-30F), where his 4 cylinder '60s 
Scout engine started, but didn't have enough power to turn the wheels as the 
diff had solid, frozen lube in it.
But the scenery is beyond description and worth every moment we spent there. 
I hope they enjoy as much of it as they can get to - the Kenai, Denali, the 
interior, etc.  Our entire family wanted to go back there, but economic 
realities and family concerns kept us from moving back.   Its still #1 for 
us in the USA!

Werner
'83SD
'90 D

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types


> Thanks Werner - It is helpful for us to know a bit about where the kids -
> and our next grandchild - will be.  They will be living in base housing.
> There are 28 buildings in a block not very far from the ocean, but hard to
> tell from a look at 'Google Earth' how high it is.  The sad thing is that 
> I
> can't get the boy interested in .
> MB diesels - he seems fixated on rebuilding 60's American cars and trucks.
> I guess it could be worse/
> BillR
> Jacksonville FL
> 1981 300SD  285k miles

Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Thanks Werner - It is helpful for us to know a bit about where the kids - 
and our next grandchild - will be.  They will be living in base housing. 
There are 28 buildings in a block not very far from the ocean, but hard to 
tell from a look at 'Google Earth' how high it is.  The sad thing is that I 
can't get the boy interested in .
MB diesels - he seems fixated on rebuilding 60's American cars and trucks. 
I guess it could be worse/

BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  285k miles

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From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Bill, our 4 years in Alaska was mostly spent in the Anchorage area (Ft. 
Rich

and Elmendorf), with frequent trips from Amchitka to Barrow to Juneau.
Valdez is indeed an interesting place, with more moderate temperatures 
than
found in the interior.  And with the Marine Highway System, good 
connections

to the "outside".  The record snowfall is a fact; the highway department
kept a yard at the top of Thompson Pass just so they could at least try to
keep the road open up to Glenallen!
Just encourage your son-in-law and daughter to live on the highest ground
around there - the '64 earthquake and Tsunami wiped out a lot of the sea
level parts of that town.  Being prepared for such things is a prudent 
thing

to do, as any real Alaskan will say.
And making it a full career and earning retirement is indeed the way to 
go,

if possible, as LTDon said.  Besides the benefits (which are substantial),
the camaraderie and shared experiences are priceless.

Werner  (with 22 years)

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

While my daughter has been a Florida girl since first grade [but born in
IN]
her Coastie worked search and rescue in the Alaska crab beds for a time,
so
he has a pretty good take on the area.  Valdez is said to have a pretty
mild
climate, but about 300 inches of snow per year [lots more than either S.
FL
or San Diego, where they now are].  They will be moving to Valdez in 
early

Autum with a 1 month old baby, so she will have enough to do also.
BillR

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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Like Don sez, in AK, the CG is well-respected.  They would occasionally
board our fishing boats, and always always were a very professional lot.
Oh, and they saved a few drowning fishermen, too.

The PW Sound is absolutely gorgeous--really.  Much of AK still has a
frontier spirit and mentality to it.

On 2/22/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Never been to Valdez, but in that part of the world Coast Guard is God,
and
a USCG CPO even more so. The only thing that could be possibly better
would
be if he was aviation. (Tell him that and he will hang up on you.)

LT Don
USCG (retired)

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
> Alaska.  Anyone been stationed there?  He just made Chief and will be
> in
> charge of housing maintance and also continue to work on the boats
> [but
not
> go out in them any longer].
> BillR
> Jacksonville  FL
> 1981 300SD   285k miles

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[MBZ] Fw: OT for military types

Thanks Don - I'll pass along the wisdom of BTDT.
Bill
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From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

If he holds out for retirement (and as an E-7 now, the chances of his
getting out before then are slim), he and your daughter have health
insurance for life. My co-workers are very jealous of my having that
benefit.

Heck, even my ex has health insurance for life because I retired.

Since I don't have to pay it myself, I was shocked one day when a 
co-worker

told me how much is withheld from her paycheck just for the health
insurance!

And, you normally retire young. At the age of 22, I was the "old man" when 
I
went thru enlisted boot camp but I still retired t age 42. Lots of time 
left

to collect that retirement check (though it is small, just 50% of base pay
at 20 years) and start a new career.

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
Alaska.

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Re: [MBZ] Leak out of rubber hose behind right rear wheel

2007-02-23 Thread Levi Smith


Most  likely...  Well, if it's inside the right rear wheel, that would
probably be the fuel tank, though it could be a brake line.  If it's more
like behind the rear wheel from an open hose, that could be the overflow
hose from next to the fuel cap.  If it's like in the middle rear, that could
be the spare tire well port...

Levi

On 2/23/07, Stephen D Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh; forgot to say that fuel level in tank has been NOT over 1/2 full for
quite a while; noticed this seemed to start after the COLD spell, in
Oklahoma; Steve

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Re: [MBZ] OT looked at a VW Dasher Diesel Wagon today

2007-02-23 Thread kevin kraly

I'm glad that you had such wonderful luck with your Quantum Diesel.  The 
longitudinal engine configuration sure is different than the Rabbits and 
Caddy PU's, and the guy said that the radiator is actually beside the engine 
rather than in front of it although I wasn't paying much attention to it 
until she blew off steam.  I thought that these engines needed valve 
adjustments every 15K miles just as Mercedes 61X Diesels do, but he said 
that he's never adjusted valve clearance on any of them that he's owned.  He 
doesn't take them apart much other than changing out engines when one loses 
power or gets blowed up.  The guy had a few engines since he's fooled around 
with Rabbits and the VW caddy trucks.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula

[MBZ] Leak out of rubber hose behind right rear wheel

Oh; forgot to say that fuel level in tank has been NOT over 1/2 full for
quite a while; noticed this seemed to start after the COLD spell, in
Oklahoma; Steve

[MBZ] Leak out of rubber hose behind right rear tire 83-300D

HI; please refresh my memory of what this leak is; I think diesel fuel??;
and the cause??; thanks, Steve

Re: [MBZ] Missing Rubber on clamp Buffers on FUEL??? lines

Hi Jim; 123 chassis, Diesel???; make sure the clamps are not on fuel 
HARD
lines; but are on HARD transmission lines; without rubber, they can 
wear

thru & lose your transmission fluid.


While I've got it up in the (cold) air I plan to address all
such 'small' items as I can find.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] NSS removal;

You can drill out the rivets to get inside to inspect; I repaired mine 
on

240d, 10 yrs ago still good; just rerivit  or small bolts & nuts back
together; my problem was just contacts needing cleaning


The switch behaves properly on the bench, and offers no shorts
to its case from any of its four terminals.  I'm obviously going
to have to look at the light fixture wiring again.

I won't put it back until I resolve the issue.  In the meantime,
plenty of other things to do on the car!

-- Jim

[MBZ] 1955 170 SD Mercedes Benz Diesel PICK UP TRUCK Vintage CLASSIC

2007-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey

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[MBZ] Missing Rubber on clamp Buffers on FUEL??? lines

Hi Jim; 123 chassis, Diesel???; make sure the clamps are not on fuel HARD
lines; but are on HARD transmission lines; without rubber, they can wear
thru & loose your transmission fluid.
Steve

[MBZ] NSS removal;

NSS removal; I can't remember; but should have only a couple of small
bolts?

You can drill out the rivets to get inside to inspect; I repaired mine on
240d, 10 yrs ago still good; just rerivit  or small bolts & nuts back
together; my problem was just contacts needing cleaning
Steve

Re: [MBZ] OT looked at a VW Dasher Diesel Wagon today

2007-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick


Big blowby is big money on that car (cheaper than the turbo, though).

Known for serious head problem, but on the four or five NA engine, 
that's not too bad.  They can be repaired.


Shot rings are common (actually upper cylinder bore wear) because that 
engine has a timing advance mechanism for cold starts -- driving it at 
full throttle with the timing 12 degrees fast rapidly wears out the 
upper cylinder walls.


The NA engine isn't bad to fix, the turbo will cost twice what a Benz 
does for a rebuild.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John & Kevin)

2007-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick

Very rarely the track rod (aka brake support rod) BEARING on the 
control arm will go bad.  Requires removal of the control arm to fix, 
and they are expensive.  Usually that noise is the bushing on the 
firewall end, but if you've replaced them, all that's left is a bad 
bearing or a bad control arm bushing.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT looked at a VW Dasher Diesel Wagon today

2007-02-23 Thread LT Don


If you can get it for less, you might want to. My VW Quantum diesel had
horrible starting problems. Even in warm weather, four or five long cranks
before it would fire up. Turned out to be a leaking fuel line -- this engine
seems to be very sensitive to any air in the system. Dropped the fuel tank,
re-plumbed, and it now starts first turn of the key, down to single-digit
temps. Could be that the problems aren't that difficult to sort out.

And by "get it for less" I mean I paid $50 for mine, then put about
$500/$700 more into it (parts only) including four new Regatta 2 tires.
Still using the battery that came with it, though.

It really pulls thru the snow and gets 50 mpg.

(Sorry, Loren, but at least you get first refusal if I decide to part with
it.)

So, don't give up too soon on the Dasher.

On 2/22/07, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It was just down the street from me, and the  guy was asking $750 for
it.  I
figured it was worth a look.  It had a pretty good body though it was in
need of fresh paint, and the interior was pretty good other than some
cracks
in the dash.  Then, the fun began.  First off, it wouldn't start on it's
own, not too good.  We did manage to get it running with a little pull
down
the street.  One cylinder was weak at idle, but it seemed OK once it got
moving.  Oil cap test revealed LOTS of blowby, and while it was idling, it
boiled over, not a pretty sight and not a good thing to have happen when
trying to sell a car!  Needless to say, I "DASHED" right on outta there
and
didn't buy the car.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula


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Re: [MBZ] OT looked at a VW Dasher Diesel Wagon today


Good move 


I "DASHED" right on outta there and didn't buy the car.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR



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[MBZ] OT looked at a VW Dasher Diesel Wagon today

2007-02-23 Thread kevin kraly

It was just down the street from me, and the  guy was asking $750 for it.  I 
figured it was worth a look.  It had a pretty good body though it was in 
need of fresh paint, and the interior was pretty good other than some cracks 
in the dash.  Then, the fun began.  First off, it wouldn't start on it's 
own, not too good.  We did manage to get it running with a little pull down 
the street.  One cylinder was weak at idle, but it seemed OK once it got 
moving.  Oil cap test revealed LOTS of blowby, and while it was idling, it 
boiled over, not a pretty sight and not a good thing to have happen when 
trying to sell a car!  Needless to say, I "DASHED" right on outta there and 
didn't buy the car.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

2007-02-23 Thread Werner Fehlauer

Bill, our 4 years in Alaska was mostly spent in the Anchorage area (Ft. Rich 
and Elmendorf), with frequent trips from Amchitka to Barrow to Juneau. 
Valdez is indeed an interesting place, with more moderate temperatures than 
found in the interior.  And with the Marine Highway System, good connections 
to the "outside".  The record snowfall is a fact; the highway department 
kept a yard at the top of Thompson Pass just so they could at least try to 
keep the road open up to Glenallen!
Just encourage your son-in-law and daughter to live on the highest ground 
around there - the '64 earthquake and Tsunami wiped out a lot of the sea 
level parts of that town.  Being prepared for such things is a prudent thing 
to do, as any real Alaskan will say.
And making it a full career and earning retirement is indeed the way to go, 
if possible, as LTDon said.  Besides the benefits (which are substantial), 
the camaraderie and shared experiences are priceless.

Werner  (with 22 years)

- Original Message - 
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

While my daughter has been a Florida girl since first grade [but born in 
IN]
her Coastie worked search and rescue in the Alaska crab beds for a time, 
so
he has a pretty good take on the area.  Valdez is said to have a pretty 
mild
climate, but about 300 inches of snow per year [lots more than either S. 
FL

or San Diego, where they now are].  They will be moving to Valdez in early
Autum with a 1 month old baby, so she will have enough to do also.
BillR

- Original Message - 
From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Like Don sez, in AK, the CG is well-respected.  They would occasionally
board our fishing boats, and always always were a very professional lot.
Oh, and they saved a few drowning fishermen, too.

The PW Sound is absolutely gorgeous--really.  Much of AK still has a
frontier spirit and mentality to it.

On 2/22/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Never been to Valdez, but in that part of the world Coast Guard is God,
and
a USCG CPO even more so. The only thing that could be possibly better
would
be if he was aviation. (Tell him that and he will hang up on you.)

LT Don
USCG (retired)

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
> Alaska.  Anyone been stationed there?  He just made Chief and will be
> in
> charge of housing maintance and also continue to work on the boats 
> [but

not
> go out in them any longer].
> BillR
> Jacksonville  FL
> 1981 300SD   285k miles

Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John & Kevin)

Sub frame mounts? What do they sound like when too old and brittle?
(Probably like my joints).

On 2/22/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We have replaced all bushings, ball joints, shocks, mounts, tie rod
> ends,
> strut rod mounts, etc. but there is still a horrible creak going over
> speed
> bumps (more so when the weather is cold).  1985 300CD, otherwise
> mechanically perfect.

Could it be the springs?  Rubbed through the rubber pad, or perhaps
a foreign object trapped in there?  Were the springs removed?  Did
they get their ends appropriately trapped in the stamped bumps
that are there for them (I think)?

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

2007-02-23 Thread LT Don


If he holds out for retirement (and as an E-7 now, the chances of his
getting out before then are slim), he and your daughter have health
insurance for life. My co-workers are very jealous of my having that
benefit.

Heck, even my ex has health insurance for life because I retired.

Since I don't have to pay it myself, I was shocked one day when a co-worker
told me how much is withheld from her paycheck just for the health
insurance!

And, you normally retire young. At the age of 22, I was the "old man" when I
went thru enlisted boot camp but I still retired t age 42. Lots of time left
to collect that retirement check (though it is small, just 50% of base pay
at 20 years) and start a new career.


On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
Alaska.





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Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John & Kevin)

We have replaced all bushings, ball joints, shocks, mounts, tie rod 
ends,
strut rod mounts, etc. but there is still a horrible creak going over 
speed

bumps (more so when the weather is cold).  1985 300CD, otherwise
mechanically perfect.


Could it be the springs?  Rubbed through the rubber pad, or perhaps
a foreign object trapped in there?  Were the springs removed?  Did
they get their ends appropriately trapped in the stamped bumps
that are there for them (I think)?

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] NSS removal

Is this your 300cD?  The 722.3XX tranny must be quite a bit different 
than

the 722.118 in the NA 300D's I've had.


'83 300D turbo.  The infamous Chicken Wagon.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

While my daughter has been a Florida girl since first grade [but born in IN] 
her Coastie worked search and rescue in the Alaska crab beds for a time, so 
he has a pretty good take on the area.  Valdez is said to have a pretty mild 
climate, but about 300 inches of snow per year [lots more than either S. FL 
or San Diego, where they now are].  They will be moving to Valdez in early 
Autum with a 1 month old baby, so she will have enough to do also.

BillR

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From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Like Don sez, in AK, the CG is well-respected.  They would occasionally
board our fishing boats, and always always were a very professional lot.
Oh, and they saved a few drowning fishermen, too.

The PW Sound is absolutely gorgeous--really.  Much of AK still has a
frontier spirit and mentality to it.

On 2/22/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Never been to Valdez, but in that part of the world Coast Guard is God,
and
a USCG CPO even more so. The only thing that could be possibly better
would
be if he was aviation. (Tell him that and he will hang up on you.)

LT Don
USCG (retired)

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
> Alaska.  Anyone been stationed there?  He just made Chief and will be 
> in

> charge of housing maintance and also continue to work on the boats [but
not
> go out in them any longer].
> BillR
> Jacksonville  FL
> 1981 300SD   285k miles
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Re: [MBZ] disable a MB diesel


He posted it in response to the last few posts in the "[MBZ] Head
gasket fun" thread - you're too far behind !!!

On 2/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

why did you post this?



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Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

2007-02-23 Thread Zeitgeist

Like Don sez, in AK, the CG is well-respected.  They would occasionally
board our fishing boats, and always always were a very professional lot.
Oh, and they saved a few drowning fishermen, too.

The PW Sound is absolutely gorgeous--really.  Much of AK still has a
frontier spirit and mentality to it.

On 2/22/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Never been to Valdez, but in that part of the world Coast Guard is God,
and
a USCG CPO even more so. The only thing that could be possibly better
would
be if he was aviation. (Tell him that and he will hang up on you.)

LT Don
USCG (retired)

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
> Alaska.  Anyone been stationed there?  He just made Chief and will be in
> charge of housing maintance and also continue to work on the boats [but
not
> go out in them any longer].
> BillR
> Jacksonville  FL
> 1981 300SD   285k miles
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Re: [MBZ] Power loss Repair Manual


I believe that "Susan" signed the post as "Max". Regardless, the
suggestions to replace the filters and verify that the vacuum and
pressure sensing tubes are in place are right on.

On 2/22/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Susan,

Welcome to the 240D Zone!




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Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Thanks Don - I'll pass it along.
BillR

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From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

Your son-in-law is a Coastie? Or rather, you let your daughter marry a
Coastie?

Being a CPO should make for a nice lifestyle, especially in Alaska. I 
assume

they will have base housing, and if so, it will be nice.

My suggestion to him: press hard for a CWO appoitment, and then do the
CWO->LT program as quickly as possible. Apply often, apply frequently, and
perseverance will pay off at retirement time when he retires as a 
Commander
at 75% base pay. No OCS required, just a couple months of charm school 
w/out

anything physical involved.

Never been to Valdez, but in that part of the world Coast Guard is God, 
and
a USCG CPO even more so. The only thing that could be possibly better 
would

be if he was aviation. (Tell him that and he will hang up on you.)

LT Don
USCG (retired)

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
Alaska.  Anyone been stationed there?  He just made Chief and will be in
charge of housing maintance and also continue to work on the boats [but 
not

go out in them any longer].
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD   285k miles
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Re: [MBZ] disable a MB diesel


why did you post this?

Luther wrote:

Route the vacuum shutoff lines together (bypassing the ignition) so that the
shutoff valve always has vacuum.  If it happens to start (highly unlikely),
it'll shutdown immediately.  That'll baffle anyone who has no MB diesel
experience.




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Re: [MBZ] OT for military types

2007-02-23 Thread LT Don


Your son-in-law is a Coastie? Or rather, you let your daughter marry a
Coastie?

Being a CPO should make for a nice lifestyle, especially in Alaska. I assume
they will have base housing, and if so, it will be nice.

My suggestion to him: press hard for a CWO appoitment, and then do the
CWO->LT program as quickly as possible. Apply often, apply frequently, and
perseverance will pay off at retirement time when he retires as a Commander
at 75% base pay. No OCS required, just a couple months of charm school w/out
anything physical involved.

Never been to Valdez, but in that part of the world Coast Guard is God, and
a USCG CPO even more so. The only thing that could be possibly better would
be if he was aviation. (Tell him that and he will hang up on you.)

LT Don
USCG (retired)

On 2/22/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My daughter and son-in-law are headed for the USCG station in Valdez,
Alaska.  Anyone been stationed there?  He just made Chief and will be in
charge of housing maintance and also continue to work on the boats [but not
go out in them any longer].
BillR
Jacksonville  FL
1981 300SD   285k miles
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