Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
i'd get a mac On 3/16/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The time had come for me to purchase a new laptop, so off to the store I went. Everything was set up with Vista, so I bought an HP. I couldn't use the lighted multimedia buttons at the top of the keyboard since I couldn't do it by touch alone since touching them set them off and there was no way to tell which one I pushed. Back that one went. I then purchased a Toshiba that was also set up with Vista only to find out that my Jaws For Windows synthesizer wouldn't work with Vista, DARM! I ended up buying another Toshiba, the last one with Xp, the Media Center Edition. This one required the professional version of the voice synth, a $340 upgrade! I figured this was worth not going with Vista, and it's working out. Wifey was having similar problems and ended up going with an XP equipped Toshiba laptop, the exact same one I have. Her magnification software works with either XP or Vista, so we're OK for a while. The guys at both comp stores we went to said, and I quote, Vista SUCKS Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
Hi Kevin, Just between you me, I think MS needed to sell some more software so they created Vista where a need had not been shown to exist - at least not anything I need. I like MS because I believe their suite of programs that communicated with others at a time when that wasn't a given - *sure*, it was self-serving - because they're in business to make money. But I don't want to be a test dummy for a new OS. Back to Vista - I am reasonably happy with XP. It does just about everything needed even though I'm sure Vista has many enhancements, I doubt they're worth (to me) the cost of buying a new OS and agonizing thru the period of de-bugging. People buying new puters are stuck unless they want to do things the old fashioned way and are willing to install XP in a new puter. Not a bad idea IMHO. Since I still have my XP CD I may go that route if I upgrade. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers The time had come for me to purchase a new laptop, so off to the store I went. Everything was set up with Vista, so I bought an HP. I couldn't use the lighted multimedia buttons at the top of the keyboard since I couldn't do it by touch alone since touching them set them off and there was no way to tell which one I pushed. Back that one went. I then purchased a Toshiba that was also set up with Vista only to find out that my Jaws For Windows synthesizer wouldn't work with Vista, DARM! I ended up buying another Toshiba, the last one with Xp, the Media Center Edition. This one required the professional version of the voice synth, a $340 upgrade! I figured this was worth not going with Vista, and it's working out. Wifey was having similar problems and ended up going with an XP equipped Toshiba laptop, the exact same one I have. Her magnification software works with either XP or Vista, so we're OK for a while. The guys at both comp stores we went to said, and I quote, Vista SUCKS Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro 2007. I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem is that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware regularly, though I don't expect that is the problem. It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on a lot of Windows boxes. And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of three causes. 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on. 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from a porn or gambling site. Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP. 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial Vista installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet. Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is even better than 2000. Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware or are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these are Microsoft's fault. Tom -Original Message- From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling. The only real issue I have at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair Pro 2007] has caused Outlook to crash every time there is mail to download or send. The test settings works great and that test settings email is fine to both send and receive, the calendar and contacts works great, but I just can't send or receive regular emails. I do download a 'shell' that includes an extra several dozen lines of stuff, then puts the 'email' at the wrong end of the queue, and crashes Outlook. Every time. If there are no emails going out or coming in everything is fine with a 'send / receive' and it does not crash. I did a backup prior to running the program, but restore doesn't help. I have reinstalled Office twice and done 'detect and repair' about 5 times. Next attempt will be to install on the other hard drive just to see if that will help. XP Repair Pro 2007 folks say they don't understand it either and are working on the problem, but no luck yet. I have had to go to an old version of Outlook Express to get email, and it does not integrate the calendar sharing function that I used a lot. Quite frustrating. Lee - I appreciate your suggestions For e-mail, contacts and scheduling, take a look at Kontact, should be installed by default on KDE-based distros like Mepis and Kubuntu. I
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
You can still buy Windows XP here: http://www.softwaremedia.com/category/461.html They are a quality vendor - I've done business with them for years. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 06:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hi Kevin, Just between you me, I think MS needed to sell some more software so they created Vista where a need had not been shown to exist - at least not anything I need. I like MS because I believe their suite of programs that communicated with others at a time when that wasn't a given - *sure*, it was self-serving - because they're in business to make money. But I don't want to be a test dummy for a new OS. Back to Vista - I am reasonably happy with XP. It does just about everything needed even though I'm sure Vista has many enhancements, I doubt they're worth (to me) the cost of buying a new OS and agonizing thru the period of de-bugging. People buying new puters are stuck unless they want to do things the old fashioned way and are willing to install XP in a new puter. Not a bad idea IMHO. Since I still have my XP CD I may go that route if I upgrade. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers The time had come for me to purchase a new laptop, so off to the store I went. Everything was set up with Vista, so I bought an HP. I couldn't use the lighted multimedia buttons at the top of the keyboard since I couldn't do it by touch alone since touching them set them off and there was no way to tell which one I pushed. Back that one went. I then purchased a Toshiba that was also set up with Vista only to find out that my Jaws For Windows synthesizer wouldn't work with Vista, DARM! I ended up buying another Toshiba, the last one with Xp, the Media Center Edition. This one required the professional version of the voice synth, a $340 upgrade! I figured this was worth not going with Vista, and it's working out. Wifey was having similar problems and ended up going with an XP equipped Toshiba laptop, the exact same one I have. Her magnification software works with either XP or Vista, so we're OK for a while. The guys at both comp stores we went to said, and I quote, Vista SUCKS Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MERCEDES 300E 4 DOOR WAGON
Well unless you are in HI, not very practical to buy. Glenn Brown wrote: For someone who might be interested in what appears to be a rust free gasser wagon and may know if there's an inexpensive fix for the vapor lock problem: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300e-4-door-wagon-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ220092427802QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem G. M. Brown Rochester, NY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. True, but defense in depth i.e. multiple layers is never a bad thing, unless you have two layers that are conflicting with each other (e.g. two different software firewalls active on the same machine). I have a router and I also have Windows firewall enabled. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
Where SWMBA works, there is a 36 month cycle for upgrading. If it comes with the new OS, that is kept sealed and the prevalent OS is installed/cloned on. When enough hardware has accumulated and IS is happy, there is a big change over to the new OS. Took them until y2k to finally move to win98SE. Still running Win2k, and no expectation of Vista going on any machines until 2012. On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: not much of a surprise: Lets see: $130 for a full version of OSX, or $300-400 for a poor imitation? This article is from Jan 4, 2007 Information Week: 1. Editor's Note: Vista Lagging, XP Unflagging Cost of upgrading to business versions of Vista: $199, $299, or $399, depending on which edition you choose. Cost of staying with Windows XP? Apparently priceless. That's one logical conclusion based on the stories that InformationWeek readers are clicking on fast and furiously these days. Take two of our most popular stories this week (both by Fred Langa): http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/ n3EQ0GMfjL0G4n0Ebl50EPXP's No-Reformat, Nondestructive Total-Rebuild Option, in which Langa shows you how to completely rebuild, repair, or refresh an existing XP installation without losing data or having to reinstall user software, reformat, or otherwise destructively alter the setup; and http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/ n3EQ0GMfjL0G4n0EyAF0EMXP On Your Thumb Drive, in which he offers a step-by-step guide on how to boot XP from an ordinary USB drive. These stories about an old operating system are no spring chickens themselves: The first was published seven months ago, and the latter a full year ago. Perennial news about what appears might be a perennial operating system. The XP lovefest doesn't stop there. This week we also published Bill O'Brien's very helpful hands-on piece http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/ n3EQ0GMfjL0G4n0EyAG0ENMake Mine Media: How To Upgrade To Windows Media Center Edition, in which he berates Microsoft for only releasing Windows XP MCE to OEMsÂand shows you how to turn your XP PC into a full-fledged media center. XP MCE! You can just hear the crowds chanting. And the seemly inexhaustible delight that pollsters take in asking CIOs about their Vista upgrade plans continued this week with Deutsche Bank Equity Research surveying IT chiefs about their 2007 plans. The majority (63.6%) say they have absolutely no intention of upgrading to either Vista or Office 2007 in 2007. Only 10% definitely say they will upgrade to Vista this year. Sounds like it's XP for dinner again tonight. What do you think? If you're not thoroughly exhausted from being asked about your Vista plans, give us your opinion by responding to http://update.informationweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/ n3EQ0GMfjL0G4n0EyAH0EOmy entry in the InformationWeek Weblog. Alice LaPlante mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -2007[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.informationweek.com AND, Information Week has had a LOT of articles about how Windows users are going to Mac. I myself have moved to an ibook with a windows remote desktop client on it. Does everything I need on the road, for a small price and a very small and light unit. And as a bonus, the 4-5 year old iboook still lasts twice as long on a battery charge as any windows laptop I have ever seen or used. THe Macbook is awesome SWMBO has a Macbook with both OSX and XP Pro. It is flat out the best value in a windows laptop! At 08:13 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote: Seems that folks are not happy with Vista in Seattle. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OSX
I just tried to install that on my TiBook. It borked it. Talked to Chris at RE-PC. He tells me it is borking a whole load of the newer computers, but the older ones seem immune. On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10.4.9. Tuesday. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Allan, What you have is probably the best configuration. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 07:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. True, but defense in depth i.e. multiple layers is never a bad thing, unless you have two layers that are conflicting with each other (e.g. two different software firewalls active on the same machine). I have a router and I also have Windows firewall enabled. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OSX
Only five? Piker Three on my desk, an eMac in the older kids room, iMac SE for the little one, wallstreet, Tibook, 6400, 5260, 7200, 9600, PB 5300, Duo 2300, SE, imac running SETI, G3 on Einstein A bunch of retired things. Had to get rid of the IIg, IIfx, si, cx, ci, LC, LC II, LC III, color classic, plus, Pippin, all but the 2100 newton (100 120 130) Classic II, 610, 630, 640, 900, 950, 7100, 8100. 9500, 700, 8500, MacTV. She wanted the garage space back. On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i have 5 macs though yes, i'm a sick man :( On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Took all of about 5 minutes. Chuck On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: fine,make me waste my sleep time downloading this On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too, today .. 10.4.9! Chuck Phoenix AZ On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10.4.9. Tuesday. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http:// www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Already tried that, with no luck. Did an uninstall and then a full reinstall of Outlook - nothing changed. I use a wireless router, but the one time I really got hit was over that. I was experimenting with my hand held while it was connected to my computer and the virus got in that way. I now have Semantic 10 antivirus [supplied by my wife's employer], but she didn't know we needed it when the virus struck. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro 2007. I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem is that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware regularly, though I don't expect that is the problem. It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on a lot of Windows boxes. And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of three causes. 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on. 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from a porn or gambling site. Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP. 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial Vista installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet. Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is even better than 2000. Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware or are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these are Microsoft's fault. Tom -Original Message- From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling. The only real issue I have at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair Pro 2007] has caused Outlook to crash every time there is mail to download or send. The test settings works great and that test settings email is fine to both send and receive, the calendar and contacts works great, but I just can't send or receive regular emails. I do download a 'shell' that includes an extra several dozen lines of stuff, then puts the 'email' at the wrong end of the queue, and crashes Outlook. Every time. If there are no emails going out or coming in everything is fine with a 'send / receive' and it does not crash. I
[MBZ] texas cars for kids
so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online. So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction? Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder. That seems like there is online bidding going on right now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable Sorry, I do not believe this. Microsoft had a good time throwing in all kinds of features without ever giving a thought to what that might mean to the security of a box, and the general public has been paying for that for years. I only hope that Apple has not compromised the relatively better security of its Unix base. Of course, they could have. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OSX
i'm just a rookie though On 3/16/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only five? Piker Three on my desk, an eMac in the older kids room, iMac SE for the little one, wallstreet, Tibook, 6400, 5260, 7200, 9600, PB 5300, Duo 2300, SE, imac running SETI, G3 on Einstein A bunch of retired things. Had to get rid of the IIg, IIfx, si, cx, ci, LC, LC II, LC III, color classic, plus, Pippin, all but the 2100 newton (100 120 130) Classic II, 610, 630, 640, 900, 950, 7100, 8100. 9500, 700, 8500, MacTV. She wanted the garage space back. On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i have 5 macs though yes, i'm a sick man :( On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, Took all of about 5 minutes. Chuck On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:18 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: fine,make me waste my sleep time downloading this On 3/16/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too, today .. 10.4.9! Chuck Phoenix AZ On Mar 15, 2007, at 9:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10.4.9. Tuesday. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http:// www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I Saw one yesterday!!!
Hi; I saw a new 07 UPS truck; made by Freightliner with a 4 cylinder turbo. Mercedes Benz diesel in it; looks lika a larger 4 cyl. than my 240D, Ha!Ha!; man said runs good gets good mileage, though he didn't say how much mpg Steve
[MBZ] http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix
Don - This worked great. Outlook seems to be back in business. Thanks. Now I owe you for Singleton's and this. BillR You might try http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix This little utility cured a sound card driver that kept disappearing in my XP laptop. It sounds like it might work in your case also.
Re: [MBZ] texas cars for kids
I have no idea what you are talking about. You haven't been using cleaning solvents without proper ventilation, have you? On 3/16/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so I went ahead and decided to try bidding on a couple of cars online. So how does this work, people bid sort of like ebay before the real auction then people at the real auction can outbid those that already bid online or do none of the bids start going in till the real auction? Reason I ask is that it says I am current high bidder. That seems like there is online bidding going on right now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes-McLaren F1 Team
That's some good reasoning there Jeff, perhaps to put it all in perspective you could get a map of England and a map of the USA in the same sacale and then compare the two in regards to physical size. Let us know what you find out. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes-McLaren F1 Team . Maybe it's because the scale is smaller here but it all seems close to me. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 15/03/2007 11:27 AM
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers
So how come every 20 minutes I have to download some patch or fix or whatever for XtraPoo? Guess Gates and Co missed the bus and misjudged what the people want from a OS, less bling and more reliability is what is needed. One day I'll change over to... - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers I think the hype outpaced reality. I bought XP after it was out for a year or more so the bugs were resolved.
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
On Mar 16, 2007, at 4:53 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Oddly enough windows music copy protection is attacked just as much as itunes copy protection even tho 95% of the bought music on the internet is itunes based. So does that mean itunes copy protection is really good, or windows music copy protection really bad? So why don't we see 100X more successful attacks on itunes music protection then? Surely the same argument above would hold? Then again perhaps these statements are from the same folks who think a ford is just like a mercedes. Funny thing is my work mate got hosed for the day as his Ford SHO coolant hose was scored open by a pulley. A *clip* broke that hold the hose away from the pulley. Funny hoses in my mercedes for the most part doesn't need clips to hold hoses away from rotating things, and funny I haven't had a clip just break. Then he asks the Ford dealer for a hose (it's an 97) and told nope go away we don't make those hoses anymore, I'm sure my benz dealer will for a price sell me a hose for the 83, and finally to add insult the auto-zone guys sell him 3 gallons of DexCool (better known as DeathCool, I understand). He is on my advice look for someone to swap it out with Zerex G-05, but in his reading it implies he must flush the block 8 times to remove all the deathcool, of couse most $39.95 flush folks won't do that much work. John 1983 300TDt 371k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 188k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix
Different Don - but I'l take Singleton's I'm OK Don, the other one is Lt. Don--- On 3/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don - This worked great. Outlook seems to be back in business. Thanks. Now I owe you for Singleton's and this. BillR You might try http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix This little utility cured a sound card driver that kept disappearing in my XP laptop. It sounds like it might work in your case also. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)
Thanks for all the input, fellows. Once I have the motor on the ground, I will investigate and report. Thanks again, On 3/15/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would plan on pistons and sleeves -- there is absolutely no chance that they are good. Crank probably only needs polishing, but if you have had oil starvation, have it magnifluxed for cracks, they CAN break (not fun). If the bearing has spun, the block is toast. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
I have friends who are Oracle developers, friends who are Lynux / MySQL / PHP developers friends who are Windows developers (myself included). And everyone believes his is the best the others are the scum of the earth. This battle of OS's will never be won by any of us. The market will tell us who's systems will win in the long run the market shows Microsoft the long term winner for the past 20 years or so. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable Sorry, I do not believe this. Microsoft had a good time throwing in all kinds of features without ever giving a thought to what that might mean to the security of a box, and the general public has been paying for that for years. I only hope that Apple has not compromised the relatively better security of its Unix base. Of course, they could have. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Bill, I don't remember you mentioning a virus earlier. Viruses can cause all kinds of damage and depending on how it was removed, you may still have some code in place. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Already tried that, with no luck. Did an uninstall and then a full reinstall of Outlook - nothing changed. I use a wireless router, but the one time I really got hit was over that. I was experimenting with my hand held while it was connected to my computer and the virus got in that way. I now have Semantic 10 antivirus [supplied by my wife's employer], but she didn't know we needed it when the virus struck. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro 2007. I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem is that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware regularly, though I don't expect that is the problem. It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on a lot of Windows boxes. And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of three causes. 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on. 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from a porn or gambling site. Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP. 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial Vista installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet. Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is even better than 2000. Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware or are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these are Microsoft's fault. Tom -Original Message- From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling. The only real issue I have at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair Pro 2007] has
Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
The virus incident and the problems with MS Outlook were separated by about 2 months. Outlook ran fine until I installed the XP Repair Pro and then the send/receive problem occurred as soon as I ran that program. It is possible that the virus [dealt with by doing a restore to original factory configuration] may have done something that held over after it was cleaned and system rolled back to factory, but everything did work fine until the install of the new program. I am quite happy that MS Outlook is working once more. Turns out I have OK Don and Dial-a-Fix to thank for that. Why don't both Dons come down and I'll treat you to a meal at Singleton's. Tom and the rest of you who offered advice can come too BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 286k miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 2:29 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I don't remember you mentioning a virus earlier. Viruses can cause all kinds of damage and depending on how it was removed, you may still have some code in place. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BillR Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Already tried that, with no luck. Did an uninstall and then a full reinstall of Outlook - nothing changed. I use a wireless router, but the one time I really got hit was over that. I was experimenting with my hand held while it was connected to my computer and the virus got in that way. I now have Semantic 10 antivirus [supplied by my wife's employer], but she didn't know we needed it when the virus struck. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro 2007. I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem is that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware regularly, though I don't expect that is the problem. It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on a lot of Windows boxes. And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of three causes. 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For example, aftermarket firewall and
[MBZ] 1996 E300
Hello Friends, I have a friend with more money than I do who is looking at the /1996-1998 E class diesels/. Am I wrong to be telling him that MB diesels are wonderful and he is going to love them? I warned him that the '96 non turbo would be slow, but as far as reliability and what we have all come to expect from our 123's and 124's, do these compare? Are they a quality item? I personally have been toying with the idea of getting a 190 2.6 gasser for a third car here, along with my question about the later Diesels above, anybody have a 190? Opinions? Thanks John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300
John Peterson wrote:
I warned him
that the '96 non turbo would be slow,
I believe the 24v NA engine is between the 90-93 2.5 and '87 3.0
as far as acceleration goes. And not a hint of turbo lag.
The 24v intercooled turbo ('98-99) is quite quick for a pre CDI diesel.
I personally have been toying with the idea of getting a 190 2.6 gasser
for a third car here, along with my question about the later Diesels
above, anybody have a 190? Opinions?
The only 190 I've driven is my 16v. Although the 16v is entertaining,
it should be observed that MBUSA rated the 2.6 at 162hp and the 16v
at 167hp. Both require premium. The 2.6 is a heavy engine in a W201,
but on the other hand, the 16v has the heaviest chassis in the W201
lineup so that should even out. My stick shift 16v weighs almost
exactly (within 20lb) as much as my automatic '87 2.5 turbodiesel,
due to the bigger wheels, fancy seats, spoilers and fender flares,
and SLS. It's going to be a hefty little car if I ever get around
to intercooling my 2.5 turbo and sticking it in the 16v car.
Re: [MBZ] 190 2.6 gasser/was 1996 E300
Hello Friends, I have a friend with more money than I do who is looking at the /1996-1998 E class diesels/. Am I wrong to be telling him that MB diesels are wonderful and he is going to love them? I warned him that the '96 non turbo would be slow, but as far as reliability and what we have all come to expect from our 123's and 124's, do these compare? Are they a quality item? I personally have been toying with the idea of getting a 190 2.6 gasser for a third car here, along with my question about the later Diesels above, anybody have a 190? Opinions? Thanks John Peterson 1991 300D 2.5 84k Kingston, RI John, The 190 wasn't intended for the 103 motor; took a big shoehorn to make it fit and there is a decent amount of maintenance stuff becomes a PITA as a result. Have you considered a 124 with a gas motor? I know around here 124 values are dropping and the 201s are falling faster. As the cheap mercedes many (or most?) of 'em have had the snot beat out of them by now, but there have to be a few nice ones left. I've had a 300e with 2.6 motor for a little more than a year; has been a decent car but would imagine a 104 engined one even better. On 210 cars- look out for rust! If a '98 is an option, its a MUCH nicer car to drive than the non-turbos IMNSHO. Tony Wirtel '92 300e/2.6
Re: [MBZ] Rebuild (was OM 617 badly sick)
Hans, Did you pull the sump pan to verify there is a bad rod? The prechamber ball is a good suggestion also, but in my experience, in that case there is variation in the knocking as the ball bounces around and it sounds more from the head than from the crank area. At 12:35 AM 3/17/2007, you wrote: Thanks for all the input, fellows. Once I have the motor on the ground, I will investigate and report. Thanks again, On 3/15/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would plan on pistons and sleeves -- there is absolutely no chance that they are good. Crank probably only needs polishing, but if you have had oil starvation, have it magnifluxed for cracks, they CAN break (not fun). If the bearing has spun, the block is toast. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator
Hi 1983 Mercedes 240D 289,000 - What would cause the actuator to click constantly after I start the car and also with also with just the key turned on? It eventually stopped after I unplugged it for several it for several minutes. I have also noticed the actuator motor running very quietly with the key turned on. Any ideas, Mike
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator
Did you ever know anybody that could stutter so much when they type? jeeez - Original Message - From: Michael Esh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 9:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator Hi 1983 Mercedes 240D 289,000 - What would cause the actuator to click constantly after I start the car and also with also with just the key turned on? It eventually stopped after I unplugged it for several it for several minutes. I have also noticed the actuator motor running very quietly with the key turned on. Any ideas, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Actuator
1983 Mercedes 240D 289,000 - What would cause the actuator to click constantly after I start the car and also with also with just the key turned on? Bad solder joints in the amplifier. Classic. Further info: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwcruise.html http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Tom wrote:a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy Hi Tom, I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router feeding my desktop and laptop. The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part - What more should have been done to be a a properly configured router ? Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus? Can a virus get thru? Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a bit IMO. I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the broadband gets thru why not a hacker? Thanks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro 2007. I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem is that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware regularly, though I don't expect that is the problem. It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on a lot of Windows boxes. And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of three causes. 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on. 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from a porn or gambling site. Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP. 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial Vista installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet. Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is even better than 2000. Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware or are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these are Microsoft's fault. Tom -Original Message- From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling. The only real issue I have at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair Pro 2007] has caused Outlook to crash every
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Larry, Connect to the internet and go to www.myipaddress.com. The site will return your ip address - write it down. Now select Run from the Start menu, type cmd in the box select OK. This will bring up a command line box - us older windows users call it a DOS window. Type ipconfig then hit the enter key. This will return your local IP address. Compare the address to your web address, if very different then your router is doing a IP translation and by default, is also working as a hardware firewall. The router is working like a hardware firewall because only invited traffic can come in. No-one else can resolve to the internal IP address. If they are the same then you do not have a router - you have only a cable or DSL modem your proverbial #ss is hanging out there on the net, waiting for the next bad guy to try take a bite out of it. You definitely need anti-virus software. Oddly enough, most clients I work with sets their virus software to maximum protection. This means that all emails are scanned in out, all web files are scanned, all files are scanned as they are opened they do a daily 100% file scan. Turning everything on causes the system to perform slow. This is yet another user issue, or more correctly a after market software issue that gets blamed on Windows. The blame lies squately on Symantic - they would not sell as much software if everyone knew they did not need 50% of the junk, excuse me, software they sell. Viruses don't pop in out of thin air they aren't caught from nearby computers or from your finger tips. They are delivered by an email or a web page visit. This means that once you know your system is clean, you can back off to filtering only at the sources. Once you know that all of the files in your system are safe, you can turn off your real time file scan only scan incoming files. You can also turn off outbound scans - why scan outbound files that you know are clean? Just don't forget to leave incoming web email scanning turned on. You need to leave your scheduled system scan turned on set the start time for something like 4:00 AM every Sunday morning - just as sanity check. My development systems are set up this way and my system scans have not found a virus yet (6 years running). I've caught disposed of plenty of incoming virus email attachments. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom wrote:a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy Hi Tom, I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router feeding my desktop and laptop. The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part - What more should have been done to be a a properly configured router ? Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus? Can a virus get thru? Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a bit IMO. I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the broadband gets thru why not a hacker? Thanks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother.
Re: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEMS
Hi Steve, Your system sounds *great*! I ended up buying a small audio only MP3 player on sale yeaterday for $30 for 1GB of memory. I put 5 CDs worth of AudioBooks into it. The screen is pretty small but once the ook is started it will run until finished. Was just thinking (very dangerous) and had a thought. I have 2 or 4 old laptop computers which I upgraded from. I still have a 50GB hard drive for one which would play anything from MP3s to movies on DVD. With the cassette on a wire I could load several books and tons of music into it - and keep it under a front seat or on the passenger seat if it was just one of us using the car. That would keep me from buying a MP3 player with more memory --- I keep thinking about Tim (the toolman) Taylor who always wanted more and bigger tools - and that seems to be the way I end up going - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Stephen D Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] AUDIO SYSTEMS HI Larry; my car is a 300D 1983; the new audio, video system is like a toy or gimmick, 3.5inch screen?? HA! HA! , but still a nice unit; still haven't figured out how to set everything on it???; you are correct , lots of reading in the manual I don't have any Amplifiers added, as it is loud enough; i also have used the cassette adapter in other car to feed satellite radio, as i will have to get out instructions to program a Freq. to use it?!??!??! Steve ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Larry, I should have noted that you are feeding your desk top lap top computers. This means that your router is set up correctly. It would not be providing an IP address for each machine if it were not. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom wrote:a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy Hi Tom, I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router feeding my desktop and laptop. The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part - What more should have been done to be a a properly configured router ? Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus? Can a virus get thru? Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a bit IMO. I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the broadband gets thru why not a hacker? Thanks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But Symantec the other software jockeys won't tell you this because they would sell less worthless software. Anti-virus software is a different story. By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com Original Message From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing XP Repair Pro 2007. I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem is that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out how to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware regularly, though I don't expect that is the problem. It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show stopper. BillR - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'BillR' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work on a lot of Windows boxes. And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one of three causes. 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. For example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on. 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from a porn or gambling site. Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP. 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial Vista installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet. Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is even better than 2000. Most who experience Office issues either don't
Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement
Thanks Tom, very helpful for me also. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 5:38 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hitstherecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Larry, Connect to the internet and go to www.myipaddress.com. The site will return your ip address - write it down. Now select Run from the Start menu, type cmd in the box select OK. This will bring up a command line box - us older windows users call it a DOS window. Type ipconfig then hit the enter key. This will return your local IP address. Compare the address to your web address, if very different then your router is doing a IP translation and by default, is also working as a hardware firewall. The router is working like a hardware firewall because only invited traffic can come in. No-one else can resolve to the internal IP address. If they are the same then you do not have a router - you have only a cable or DSL modem your proverbial #ss is hanging out there on the net, waiting for the next bad guy to try take a bite out of it. You definitely need anti-virus software. Oddly enough, most clients I work with sets their virus software to maximum protection. This means that all emails are scanned in out, all web files are scanned, all files are scanned as they are opened they do a daily 100% file scan. Turning everything on causes the system to perform slow. This is yet another user issue, or more correctly a after market software issue that gets blamed on Windows. The blame lies squately on Symantic - they would not sell as much software if everyone knew they did not need 50% of the junk, excuse me, software they sell. Viruses don't pop in out of thin air they aren't caught from nearby computers or from your finger tips. They are delivered by an email or a web page visit. This means that once you know your system is clean, you can back off to filtering only at the sources. Once you know that all of the files in your system are safe, you can turn off your real time file scan only scan incoming files. You can also turn off outbound scans - why scan outbound files that you know are clean? Just don't forget to leave incoming web email scanning turned on. You need to leave your scheduled system scan turned on set the start time for something like 4:00 AM every Sunday morning - just as sanity check. My development systems are set up this way and my system scans have not found a virus yet (6 years running). I've caught disposed of plenty of incoming virus email attachments. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom wrote:a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy Hi Tom, I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router feeding my desktop and laptop. The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part - What more should have been done to be a a properly configured router ? Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus? Can a virus get thru? Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a bit IMO. I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the broadband gets thru why not a hacker? Thanks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement Bill, I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some software vendors. Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple anti-virus firewall programs. Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to keep them from going further. But
