Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL W126
its a rodbender LarryT wrote: Saw a 91 350SDL parked in the lot for tonights auction. It had a Failed state inspection sticker - so something's wrong - could be brakes, tires, exhaust, glass, etc - they go over cars once a year pretty closely. It's definately a W126 - big, long body wiith some cosmetic problems - and I didn;t lol very closely. Looks like it was rode hard and put away wet. Since it's the 350 engine in a late body I would wondering if it was part of the rod benders?? Or, did that not start until the W140 was introduced? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL W126
What year did the W140 start, or was it mid '91? Ed 300E On 12/04/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its a rodbender LarryT wrote: Saw a 91 350SDL parked in the lot for tonights auction. It had a Failed state inspection sticker - so something's wrong - could be brakes, tires, exhaust, glass, etc - they go over cars once a year pretty closely. It's definately a W126 - big, long body wiith some cosmetic problems - and I didn;t lol very closely. Looks like it was rode hard and put away wet. Since it's the 350 engine in a late body I would wondering if it was part of the rod benders?? Or, did that not start until the W140 was introduced? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL W126
92 was the first model year 140. E M wrote: What year did the W140 start, or was it mid '91? Ed 300E On 12/04/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its a rodbender LarryT wrote: Saw a 91 350SDL parked in the lot for tonights auction. It had a Failed state inspection sticker - so something's wrong - could be brakes, tires, exhaust, glass, etc - they go over cars once a year pretty closely. It's definately a W126 - big, long body wiith some cosmetic problems - and I didn;t lol very closely. Looks like it was rode hard and put away wet. Since it's the 350 engine in a late body I would wondering if it was part of the rod benders?? Or, did that not start until the W140 was introduced? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington (state) area?
Message: 11 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:33:44 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington area? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.commailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Where? OTOH, I am looking for a good rechroming shop anywhere in te USA. On 4/12/07, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would like to find a new mechanic Thanks, Rick
Re: [MBZ] Drip timing -idle vs full throttle
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:58:53 +0200 Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always set my injection timing on the OM617 with fuel pump in the idle position. This I have discovered is in fact incorrect and should be set when pump is in the full throttle position. Yes, the manual says it should be blocked in the full throttle position. Does anyone know approx what the differnce in crankshaft degrees is approximately between the two methods? Not a clue. Sorry. Craig
[MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb?
This request is directed to Kaleb but if he isn't able to help I'd be interested in someone else stepping forward. I'm in need of a replacement blower motor for my '90 300D. The squeeking at low speed is now intolerable and I'm looking to replace it. I need the non-dust filter model. If anyone has one please let me know. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 02:57:45 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HcByq-0006UJ-GL for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:57:45 + Received: (qmail 2293 invoked by uid 508); 12 Apr 2007 21:57:52 -0500 Received: from 70.184.21.138 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2954. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.21.138):. Processed in 0.033962 secs); 13 Apr 2007 02:57:52 - Received: from 70-184-21-138.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.101]) (70.184.21.138) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:57:51 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:00:10 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:57:46 - I dont have one Ralph W wrote: This request is directed to Kaleb but if he isn't able to help I'd be interested in someone else stepping forward. I'm in need of a replacement blower motor for my '90 300D. The squeeking at low speed is now intolerable and I'm looking to replace it. I need the non-dust filter model. If anyone has one please let me know. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb?
interested in someone else stepping forward. I'm in need of a replacement blower motor for my '90 300D. The squeeking at low speed is now intolerable Depending on how easy it is to access, one can get good results from oiling it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Any reputable 300D mechanics in the Yakima, Washington area?
Would like to find a new mechanic You should mention, Richard, that this is an '87 300D. It might matter. -- Jim
[MBZ] 7.0 litre AMG engine?
I've always like the older (1998) CL coupes, based on the W140. I was looking around the new and found an English spec CL 600 and it said it had the optional 7.0 AMG engine. Did AMG ever offer a 7.0 litre V12 engine, or was this an aftermarket job? I think AMG was already part owned by Mercedes by that time. Ed 300E
[MBZ] All around lube?
What is a good all around lube for doors, sunroof etc.? I have used the while stuff on other cars, but would like to use something cleaner like a graphite spray. Would this work well for the sunroof and doors, locks etc.? Also, does anyone have a pic of all the grease points under the car? I was thinking of loading the gun with some type of good synth grease? Any brands recommended? Thanks, Ed 300E
[MBZ] lugs torque?
I think the book calls for 80 ft/lbs. for the wheels on the 300E. I think is also says to recheck and retorque as needes after 500 miles? Does anyone know if the official work manual calls for the bolts to be torqued dry or with anti-seize? Thanks, Ed 300E
Re: [MBZ] All around lube?
the sunroof rails use a special grease from MB that does not hold dirt (much) called Gleitungspaste (gliding paste/grease). You can get it from Rusty. Great stuff. Clean off the old rails, wipe 'em clean and put of the g-paste and it's a 100x better. Chris E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a good all around lube for doors, sunroof etc.? I have used the while stuff on other cars, but would like to use something cleaner like a graphite spray. Would this work well for the sunroof and doors, locks etc.? Also, does anyone have a pic of all the grease points under the car? I was thinking of loading the gun with some type of good synth grease? Any brands recommended? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 220K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, little blue klatter box - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 04:08:38 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.246]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HcD5Q-0005IH-K3 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:08:37 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so826246ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.136.13 with SMTP id j13mr2140552and.1176437313051; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.174.1 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 00:08:32 -0400 From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] All around lube? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:08:40 - Thanks Chris, I'm in Canada, so I'm saving for a larger order before calling Rusty to save on shipping. I'll just grab some at the local dealer here. I picked up some of their (MB) wipes for the antenna and they seem to work well. Ed 300E On 13/04/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the sunroof rails use a special grease from MB that does not hold dirt (much) called Gleitungspaste (gliding paste/grease). You can get it from Rusty. Great stuff. Clean off the old rails, wipe 'em clean and put of the g-paste and it's a 100x better. Chris E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is a good all around lube for doors, sunroof etc.? I have used the while stuff on other cars, but would like to use something cleaner like a graphite spray. Would this work well for the sunroof and doors, locks etc.? Also, does anyone have a pic of all the grease points under the car? I was thinking of loading the gun with some type of good synth grease? Any brands recommended? Thanks, Ed 300E om
Re: [MBZ] lugs torque?
Dry. Anti-seize will act as a lubricant will actually cause you to over torque the lug bolts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] lugs torque? I think the book calls for 80 ft/lbs. for the wheels on the 300E. I think is also says to recheck and retorque as needes after 500 miles? Does anyone know if the official work manual calls for the bolts to be torqued dry or with anti-seize? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] All around lube?
didn't know about MB antenna wipes. Do NOT use any lubricant on the antenna, it will hold dirt and cause failure even sooner. Marshall says avg antenna life is 6 years. Since I'm in the city, I never need to put mine up, besides, I listen to CD's all the time. Chris E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Chris, I'm in Canada, so I'm saving for a larger order before calling Rusty to save on shipping. I'll just grab some at the local dealer here. I picked up some of their (MB) wipes for the antenna and they seem to work well. Ed 300E On 13/04/07, Christopher McCann wrote: the sunroof rails use a special grease from MB that does not hold dirt (much) called Gleitungspaste (gliding paste/grease). You can get it from Rusty. Great stuff. Clean off the old rails, wipe 'em clean and put of the g-paste and it's a 100x better. Chris E M wrote: What is a good all around lube for doors, sunroof etc.? I have used the while stuff on other cars, but would like to use something cleaner like a graphite spray. Would this work well for the sunroof and doors, locks etc.? Also, does anyone have a pic of all the grease points under the car? I was thinking of loading the gun with some type of good synth grease? Any brands recommended? Thanks, Ed 300E om ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 04:35:40 2007 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.231]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HcDVc-0006nC-1S for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:35:40 + Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id n29so667772nzf for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.185.7 with SMTP id i7mr5403441qbf.1176438936861; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.74? ( [207.81.73.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 5sm7879697nzk.2007.04.12.21.35.34; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:35:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:35:31 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Sender: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] All around lube? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:35:42 - Well the service manual lists 9 different greases, some are quite special, others are more based on the NLGI classification 00 (liquidish) to 2 (thicker) bigger numbers head towards wax like. For all greasing points except front wheel hubs Chassis Grease (NLGI Class 01) Shell Retinax C For all greasing points except front wheel Multi-Purpose Grease (NLGI Class 2) Exxon Multi-Purpose Grease From my reading Shell Retinax C is really old, around from the days that you had grease nipples everywhere say 1930-50, however since cars don't do that anymore you'll note Retinax isn't available. However I'd suspect any NLGI Class 01 grease you would use in a Chassis grease point would do. But I'm not sure any benz I have actually has one... Same story for Exxon Multi-Purpose Grease, what ever NLGI Class 2 grease would do for where you would use that grease. Fluid Grease (NLGI Class 00) For door lock pin and striker eye Castrol CLS Grease it is an adhesive grease, very resistant to water washout, has good pumpability and low temperature characteristics The rest all are *special* enough in Mercedes engineering eyes to have their own mercedes part number. For propeller shaft - universal joints Long Term Lubricating Grease (NLGI Class 2) MB Part No. A000 989 63 51 11 For joint housing High Temperature Antifriction Grease
Re: [MBZ] All around lube?
They come in a box and look like a 2x2 swabs, similar to what you might use for a gun. I think there is about 10 or so to a box. CDs? You must have one of them there fancy new Mar-cedes. :-) Ed 300E On 13/04/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't know about MB antenna wipes. Do NOT use any lubricant on the antenna, it will hold dirt and cause failure even sooner. Marshall says avg antenna life is 6 years. Since I'm in the city, I never need to put mine up, besides, I listen to CD's all the time. Chris
Re: [MBZ] All around lube?
Thanks John, a lot of info. I'll have to make some notes and hit the grease isle at the parts store this weekend. Thanks again. Ed On 13/04/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the service manual lists 9 different greases, some are quite special, others are more based on the NLGI classification 00 (liquidish) to 2 (thicker) bigger numbers head towards wax like. For all greasing points except front wheel hubs Chassis Grease (NLGI Class 01) Shell Retinax C For all greasing points except front wheel Multi-Purpose Grease (NLGI Class 2) Exxon Multi-Purpose Grease From my reading Shell Retinax C is really old, around from the days that you had grease nipples everywhere say 1930-50, however since cars don't do that anymore you'll note Retinax isn't available. However I'd suspect any NLGI Class 01 grease you would use in a Chassis grease point would do. But I'm not sure any benz I have actually has one... Same story for Exxon Multi-Purpose Grease, what ever NLGI Class 2 grease would do for where you would use that grease. Fluid Grease (NLGI Class 00) For door lock pin and striker eye Castrol CLS Grease it is an adhesive grease, very resistant to water washout, has good pumpability and low temperature characteristics The rest all are *special* enough in Mercedes engineering eyes to have their own mercedes part number. For propeller shaft - universal joints Long Term Lubricating Grease (NLGI Class 2) MB Part No. A000 989 63 51 11 For joint housing High Temperature Antifriction Grease (NLGI Class 2) MB Part No. A002 989 00 51 10 Complex Grease For sliding blocks of tilt/sliding roof (NLGI Class 2) MB Part No. A001 989 46 51 Lubricant For lubricating outer guide rail of panorama roof MB Special Lubricant MB Part No. A000 989 36 60 High Temperature Roller Bearing Grease (NLGI Class 2) MB Part No. A002 989 00 51 10 Liquid Grease (NLGI Class 00) For door locks MB Liquid Grease MB Part No. A001 989 08 51 10 Out of curiosity I order Liquid Grease (NLGI Class 00) For door locks MB Liquid Grease MB Part No. A001 989 08 51 10, which is a litre bottle (lifetime supply). Slighly blue very thin, apparently used in auto-lubesystems (pumped) in trucking systems. However that replaced the white lithium smeared over the years on door latchs. Appears not to turn waxy like white lithum does. On Apr 12, 2007, at 8:56 PM, E M wrote: What is a good all around lube for doors, sunroof etc.? I have used the while stuff on other cars, but would like to use something cleaner like a graphite spray. Would this work well for the sunroof and doors, locks etc.? Also, does anyone have a pic of all the grease points under the car? I was thinking of loading the gun with some type of good synth grease? Any brands recommended? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lugs torque?
Thanks Tom. Ed On 13/04/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dry. Anti-seize will act as a lubricant will actually cause you to over torque the lug bolts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] lugs torque? I think the book calls for 80 ft/lbs. for the wheels on the 300E. I think is also says to recheck and retorque as needes after 500 miles? Does anyone know if the official work manual calls for the bolts to be torqued dry or with anti-seize? Thanks, Ed 300E
Re: [MBZ] All around lube?
fancy new...uh...'85 SD with a nicely matching Blaupunkt upgrade to the OE radio/tape player :-) Have to be able to listen to my Wagner CD's when driving the Benz. :-) Chris E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They come in a box and look like a 2x2 swabs, similar to what you might use for a gun. I think there is about 10 or so to a box. CDs? You must have one of them there fancy new Mar-cedes. :-) Ed 300E On 13/04/07, Christopher McCann wrote: didn't know about MB antenna wipes. Do NOT use any lubricant on the antenna, it will hold dirt and cause failure even sooner. Marshall says avg antenna life is 6 years. Since I'm in the city, I never need to put mine up, besides, I listen to CD's all the time. Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 13 11:09:48 2007 Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.200.82]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HcJf2-0005fB-7C for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:09:48 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-47-211.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.47.211]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id 200704131109430120066t78e; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:09:43 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:09:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:09:51 - Access is difficult - Rusty has new ones - the cowling and windshield wiper assy must be removed to replace the motor. They come with or without the fans but it is difficult to remove the old fan without damaging them. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 blower motor - Kaleb? interested in someone else stepping forward. I'm in need of a replacement blower motor for my '90 300D. The squeeking at low speed is now intolerable Depending on how easy it is to access, one can get good results from oiling it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.3.0/758 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 11:52 AM
Re: [MBZ] 7.0 litre AMG engine?
yes, AMG started with a stock 6.0L V12 and modified it ending up with 7.0L along with a lot of other goodies. As with all very expensive cars, maintaence can be troublesome and costly. While MB will undoubtedly *say* they are qualified to work on them they may be optimistic. In some cases, AMG will send a technician from Germany to make repairs. Of course, this isn;t always the case, but taking it to PepBoys will be problematic. IMHO. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] 7.0 litre AMG engine? I've always like the older (1998) CL coupes, based on the W140. I was looking around the new and found an English spec CL 600 and it said it had the optional 7.0 AMG engine. Did AMG ever offer a 7.0 litre V12 engine, or was this an aftermarket job? I think AMG was already part owned by Mercedes by that time. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.3.0/758 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 11:52 AM
[MBZ] lugs torque?
I still prefer to put a squirt of Kroil on the threads of my lugs. Then torque them to 78lbs/ft. Just to protect against a seized lug bolt out on the road or if one of the ladies god forbid has to change a flat. -- Dry. Anti-seize will act as a lubricant will actually cause you to over torque the lug bolts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 I think the book calls for 80 ft/lbs. for the wheels on the 300E. I think is also says to recheck and retorque as needes after 500 miles? Does anyone know if the official work manual calls for the bolts to be torqued dry or with anti-seize? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ _ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE
Re: [MBZ] All around lube?
For any grease fittings (not much on 123 and later cars) I use Molykote BR2 gun grease. It is a molybdenum disulfide grease. On the door hinges, it works well, using the special fitting adapter (available at most chain saw stores) I have used this for 30 some years. It is a great product. the moly is a friction reducing agent, which in turn extends the life of bearings. BR2 is good for window regulators and door checks. You do need to be careful about not getting BR2 on cloth/interior components. I only put Molykote BR2 in my grease gun. For light oil, M1 works pretty well. It does have detergents, so will wash off in time. For front wheel bearings, use the MB approved stuff, although I have used the BR2 there also. it is a little weepy for that application. On my 66 200D, I put BR2 on the wheel bearings 30 some years ago, and have never re-greased them or had need to replace the bearings. for the sunroof, buy the gleitpaste from Rusty. In a pinch, use the BR2, because the gleitpaste is a moly grease. it appears to be a little different than the BR2, but it is close. DO NOT, under any situation, use white lithium if you intend to keep a car more than a year or two. White lithium gets dry and hard. It causes wear! Molykote products are available form Motion Industries or other industrial bearing supply houses. Herr Doktor Booth will suggest using the MB approved products. Those are good. I have no problem if you are able to get those products easily. I developed my bad habits long before I learned of Dr. Booth. My suggestions are from experience, and are NOT factory approved. Loren 66 200D since 1972 et all At 10:56 PM 4/12/2007, you wrote: What is a good all around lube for doors, sunroof etc.? I have used the while stuff on other cars, but would like to use something cleaner like a graphite spray. Would this work well for the sunroof and doors, locks etc.? Also, does anyone have a pic of all the grease points under the car? I was thinking of loading the gun with some type of good synth grease? Any brands recommended? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] Glow Plug torque and knocking?
Gunshy though I may be about asking basic questions anymore, I will try: Let's say I don't have a torque wrench and want to know about how tight to tighten glow plugs on my 2.4. Are we talking about as tight as a spark plug, or does it need to be tighter owing to the high compression of the engine? I have a history of stripping things out by overtightening, so I erred on the light side. Undertightening glow plugs could not lead to the nailing discussed recently - could it? In other words, that pinging/knocking sound upon cold startup? Brian 83 240D
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug torque and knocking?
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's say I don't have a torque wrench and want to know about how tight to tighten glow plugs on my 2.4. Are we talking about as tight as a spark plug, That's what I've done. It'd be tough to get a torque wrench down in there with the engine in the car anyway (thinking of my 300D anyway). Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Shareholder meeting
Sounds like big bonus time for the architects of this deal. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BERLIN – Shareholders strongly criticized DaimlerChrysler CEO Dieter Zetsche and D/C’s management during the annual shareholder meeting here today. In heated remarks, shareholder after shareholder criticized D/C’s supervisory board for not selling the loss-making Chrysler group. D/C has said it is considering all options, including the possible sale, of Chrysler. But shareholders said the company is not moving fast enough. Press reports say Magna International and private equity groups Cerberus Capital Management and the Blackstone Group have submitted offers to buy Chrysler, D/C’s loss-making US unit.
Re: [MBZ] Shareholder meeting
(yes I sort of recall that this has been beaten to death by more than one thread in the not too distant past but it is Friday afternoon and I would rather do this than work!) Interesting that Chrysler is doing so poorly. They make the best looking American cars right now so far as I see. Ford and GM aren't making much that I would bring home except for trucks. Everyone seems brainwashed by the Consumer Reports people who consistently say the Toyotas and Hondas are so much better. We currently have 2 Toyotas and 2 Fords as well as the MB and a couple of beaters. I'm personally am not having any better luck with Toyotas than with the Fords. Had a Honda too but it rusted away about the time that the AT gave up. Not a high mile car but it was getting on in years. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shareholder meeting Sounds like big bonus time for the architects of this deal. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BERLIN – Shareholders strongly criticized DaimlerChrysler CEO Dieter Zetsche and D/C’s management during the annual shareholder meeting here today. In heated remarks, shareholder after shareholder criticized D/C’s supervisory board for not selling the loss-making Chrysler group. D/C has said it is considering all options, including the possible sale, of Chrysler. But shareholders said the company is not moving fast enough. Press reports say Magna International and private equity groups Cerberus Capital Management and the Blackstone Group have submitted offers to buy Chrysler, D/C’s loss-making US unit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug torque and knocking?
Pencil type plugs do NOT need to be tightened much. I won't look up the spec, but i think it is about 25-30 ft-lb. An old Kraut mechanic told me long ago that if you put yout thumb on the box or open end of a wrench, and tighten it as much as you can one-handed in that position, that is about 25 ft-lb. with a socket, put your thumb on the rachet-head. Even the loop type only need about 30 ft-lb. Overtightening wither can result in nasty messes. No, I can't translate that into NM. rant l could translate between Mkg and ft-lb, but I have never found a conversion for NM. I am still torqued at ISO for dropping a logical Mkg unit in favor of a nonsensical NM unit. /rant Loren At 01:47 PM 4/13/2007, you wrote: Gunshy though I may be about asking basic questions anymore, I will try: Let's say I don't have a torque wrench and want to know about how tight to tighten glow plugs on my 2.4. Are we talking about as tight as a spark plug, or does it need to be tighter owing to the high compression of the engine? I have a history of stripping things out by overtightening, so I erred on the light side. Undertightening glow plugs could not lead to the nailing discussed recently - could it? In other words, that pinging/knocking sound upon cold startup? Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug torque and knocking?
Good. Actually I tightened them too much. Brian 83 240D On 4/13/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pencil type plugs do NOT need to be tightened much. I won't look up the spec, but i think it is about 25-30 ft-lb. An old Kraut mechanic told me long ago that if you put yout thumb on the box or open end of a wrench, and tighten it as much as you can one-handed in that position, that is about 25 ft-lb. with a socket, put your thumb on the rachet-head. Even the loop type only need about 30 ft-lb. Overtightening wither can result in nasty messes. No, I can't translate that into NM. rant l could translate between Mkg and ft-lb, but I have never found a conversion for NM. I am still torqued at ISO for dropping a logical Mkg unit in favor of a nonsensical NM unit. /rant Loren At 01:47 PM 4/13/2007, you wrote: Gunshy though I may be about asking basic questions anymore, I will try: Let's say I don't have a torque wrench and want to know about how tight to tighten glow plugs on my 2.4. Are we talking about as tight as a spark plug, or does it need to be tighter owing to the high compression of the engine? I have a history of stripping things out by overtightening, so I erred on the light side. Undertightening glow plugs could not lead to the nailing discussed recently - could it? In other words, that pinging/knocking sound upon cold startup? Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
