Re: [MBZ] slight miss with gas W103

2007-04-26 Thread Peter Frederick

Look for a vacuum leak.

Your idle control system is working, idle in gear is 500 rpm, slightly 
higher out of gear.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Mitch Haley


Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 
 On 4/25/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So far I have resisted the temptation to replace the 2.3-16 badge with a
  2.5 Turbo badge from the 190D.
 
 
 Isn't that kind of backwards?  Admittedly they're both pretty rare and
 special to '80s-car geeks, but isn't the 2.3-16 rarer and specialer?

The 190D 2.5 turbo isn't much of a hotrod, but what about a 190E 2.5 turbo?
The 2.5-16 (Evolution II) is very rare and special. Imagine if you had one that 
was
turbocharged. ;-)



Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread Mitch Haley


Allan Streib wrote:
 
 I think ebay ought to not have fixed expiration times.  It ought to be
 like a real auction, i.e. keep taking bids as long as they are coming
 in. 

IIRC, Auctionarms.com has/had a going...going...gone format. If there
was a bid in the last five minutes, the clock would reset to five minutes.
The auction continued until there had been no bids for five minutes. That
allowed plenty of time for the loser to get his you've been outbid email.



Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87

2007-04-26 Thread Joe Knight

I was travelling when I looked that up on my old laptop in the almost
as old MBNA EPC, Casey.  Just double checked the WW EPC with the same
result though.  Clearly states that 124 350 10 32 is the correct part
for the 124.092, as it is for the 124.193, left side.  The same holds
true for 11 32 on the right side.

-joe



Re: [MBZ] Notes from the field: Stuck rear wheel bearing -- '87

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

Ah, thanks Joe!

On 4/25/07, Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was travelling when I looked that up on my old laptop in the almost
as old MBNA EPC, Casey.  Just double checked the WW EPC with the same
result though.  Clearly states that 124 350 10 32 is the correct part
for the 124.092, as it is for the 124.193, left side.  The same holds
true for 11 32 on the right side.



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[MBZ] OT: Re: Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread ernest breakfield
looks like Yahoo Auctions also still has  a going, going, gone option 
available for the seller to select at the time they set up their 
auction,... but note that they haven't had anywhere near the success 
that eBay has.


   as for eBay, there's nothing about it that keeps people from bidding 
the maximum they're willing to pay! unfortunately, some people seem to 
not realize and/or be able to commit to how much they'll pay until they 
see someone else willing to pay more, or they get so caught up in the 
'need to win' that they'll keep pushing the price up as they see how 
much others value the item.
   until that changes (and being about some humans nature, it probably 
never will!), i'll figure out what my personal maximum bid is, and make 
it as a last-minute snipe.



cheers!
e


Mitch Haley wrote:

Allan Streib wrote:
  

I think ebay ought to not have fixed expiration times.  It ought to be
like a real auction, i.e. keep taking bids as long as they are coming
in. 



IIRC, Auctionarms.com has/had a going...going...gone format. If there
was a bid in the last five minutes, the clock would reset to five minutes.
The auction continued until there had been no bids for five minutes. That
allowed plenty of time for the loser to get his you've been outbid email.


  


Re: [MBZ] Lt Don's MC, was: My 300SEL on ebay

2007-04-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:43:54 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  SO, if you really want a bike, it should really be a bike, and if it's
  going to be American, make it good  ---
  http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/1959432.html?page=1
  http://www.bosshoss.net/products.asp
 
 Nah, here's what you want http://www.dieselmotorcycles.com/

But how about a diesel hotrod?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/1302941.html


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost

Donald,

Make sure the car is EXACTLY as you stated in the listing.  Even  
better condition than listed.  For some reason the sellers I have  
dealt with on eBay are less than honest about their product and get  
bad feedback.


Give it a quick wash and vac before delivery.  Make sure fluids are  
up, wheels aired, and everything you said is working.


Payment is best if it is cash or you and the buyer take his cashiers  
cheque to the bank together.  Let him know that is the plan.  It has  
a better chance of being real if he knows the bank will process it in  
front of him.


Lurkers may be waiting to swoop in at the last moment, but you should  
see some activity either early or in the last 12 hours as it heats  
up.  If you have some bids, that tends to make others bid, and the  
original fellow to up his bid.




On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


I have never sold anything on Ebay.  So, I am wondering if anyone has
any hints about making sure I don't get screwed.  (it may be too late
now, since the car is already for sale.)  But, I guess the thing to  
know

is that I should watch out for fake cashier's checks and obviously I
won't release the car until I have the money.  Any other thoughts?



As an update - two people have bid on the car. It is up to $3175.   
It is
not to my reserve, yet. If anyone is curious - the reserve is  
$4900. So,

if you want it that is the price.  In fact, if anyone on here wants it
for $4900, I will end the auction early.



8 people are watching it- which makes me feel a little like Big  
Brother

is watching you.



Donald H. Snook




--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost
Buy stuff to get a few feedbacks that are positive.Pay quickly  
and make no waves at first.  Once you have 100% score and more than  
ten feedback, nobody really checks.


Take good photos in good light.  Describe the article fully.  Know  
exactly what you are selling and all the background.  There are some  
folks really into the products and will give negative feedback if you  
listed it as something they decide it may not have been.  Like a  
muskrat coat as a mink.  Brass as gold...


On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:51 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

I'm interested in the answer to this query as well. I don't plan to  
sell a vehicle but have some smaller items that
I would like to try selling. It seems like everyone is concerned  
about one's history and if one does not have a

track record what do you recommend?

Randy

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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:39 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice


I have never sold anything on Ebay.  So, I am wondering if anyone has
any hints about making sure I don't get screwed.  (it may be too late
now, since the car is already for sale.)  But, I guess the thing to  
know

is that I should watch out for fake cashier's checks and obviously I
won't release the car until I have the money.  Any other thoughts?



As an update - two people have bid on the car. It is up to $3175.   
It is
not to my reserve, yet. If anyone is curious - the reserve is  
$4900. So,

if you want it that is the price.  In fact, if anyone on here wants it
for $4900, I will end the auction early.



8 people are watching it- which makes me feel a little like Big  
Brother

is watching you.



Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)

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Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Arroz = rice in Espanol.  The espanol speakers around here drive around 
in old piece-of-sh** (POS) ricers (mostly Civics and Accords), hence 
arrozers, that they tart up with all manner of useless both cheap and 
expensive crap in an effort to make them faster or more attractive to 
their street-cred (credibility) buddies (loosely, vatos) or their chicas 
(women, and I espand the bounds and use the term in the most 
age-inclusive way).  The cheapest performance enhancer you can buy is a 
$1.98 R sticker, which I guess refers to some designation of those 
sportier Acuras or something, or maybe means racing.  You can get some 
orange reflective tape from the job site, putting some of that on the 
bumpers and doors in some kind of design appears to be 
performance-enhancing as well.


The next thing up the expense list is a loud farty coffee can muffler 
that hangs down under the rear bumper.  That will either hit something 
or bounce loose from the coat hanger you use to hold it in place, or 
both.  Then you gotta go for black window tint, some blue LED lights 
here and there, an A-pillar 3-gauge holder, a huge tachometer with gaudy 
yellow lights, and up there in cost are tires/wheels, lowering kit, body 
cladding (painted yellow), bright metallic paint, and then maybe engine 
mods if it hasn't blown up yet.  In there somewhere is a really loud 
ear-busting stereo that sounds like it is playing from the bottom of an 
old garbage can (which, I guess it is), and put mariachi or some other 
kind of Mex music on.  Make sure you play it while cruising through the 
apartment parking lot at 3AM, and particularly when you drive back to 
your village in Mexico for the holidays (selection of the proper tune 
with which to make your entrance takes considerable time, discussion, 
and effort).


But now the sportier cars seem to have the S designation, so you gotta 
get one of those stickers first.


This is life in Houston, Norte Mexico.

--R

Chuck Landenberger wrote:

Rich,

I'm too old to learn a new language..  Can you interpret, please!

Thanks,

Chuck
On Apr 25, 2007, at 1:55 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

  
Well, I know for a fact that an R sticker turns a POS arrozer  
into an

instant hi-po racer, although it appears now that since everyone has
them, you gotta step up to the rare S sticker to get full  
performance

capabilities and image establishment amongst your vatos.  Some
reflective tape applied in strategic locations also helps.

--R

Chuck Landenberger wrote:


And a PS.  It is indeed sad when one needs to send an inflated
message by changing the badging on one's car.

C



  

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[MBZ] (no subject)

2007-04-26 Thread Roger Conlon

What would be a fair price for a used SDL oil pan?
You know, if a guy would have one to sell.

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[MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Zoltan Finks

Just wondering if they use winterized fuel in Washington state. I guess I
should specify around the Sound area.

Brian
83 240D


Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Rich,

Gotcha'..  There are a bunch of them here in Phoenix, too!

Take care and be safe out there..

Chuck
Phoenix AZ...






Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Bob Rentfro

Are those AMGs?

Bob R


- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] E63



Rich,

Gotcha'..  There are a bunch of them here in Phoenix, too!

Take care and be safe out there..

Chuck
Phoenix AZ...




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Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost

yes

Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F, but the  
#2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from  
October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to  
use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.




On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:

Just wondering if they use winterized fuel in Washington state. I  
guess I

should specify around the Sound area.

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger

NO!

They are just ricers

Chuck
On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Are those AMGs?

Bob R





Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

I've never had any trouble running B99 during the deepest Winter months,
around here.

On 4/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


yes

Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F, but the
#2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from
October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to
use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.



Casey
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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don's MC, was: My 300SEL on ebay

2007-04-26 Thread OK Don

Read the whole article - it's not a Diesel - it's a vergasser, which
is why there is a stock of engines - after the pentagon discovered
that a well place hand grenade would blow up the gas tank, they
switched to Diesel engines.



But how about a diesel hotrod?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/1302941.html


--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just
sit there.
Will Rogers
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager



Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

I used to own a rare Mars Red '81 Scirocco S.  I was hot shit, back in the
day.  I had a front spoiler and everything, which made me near royalty.  I
got a ticket in Ritzville WA for doing 90mph in a 60 zone, so I know what
I'm talkin 'bout--m'kay?

On 4/25/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, I know for a fact that an R sticker turns a POS arrozer into an
instant hi-po racer, although it appears now that since everyone has
them, you gotta step up to the rare S sticker to get full performance
capabilities and image establishment amongst your vatos.  Some
reflective tape applied in strategic locations also helps.



Casey
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Re: [MBZ] used SDL parts

2007-04-26 Thread Luther

I would negotiate the whole car with Kaleb..MUCH easier to let him get
greasy! :)

--
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'83 300SD (245 kmi) For Sale
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine


Quoting Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


What would be a fair price for a used SDL oil pan?
You know, if a guy would have one to sell. 





Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread BillR
I'll second that.  I don't have software for it, but I usually don't bid
until under 30 sec.
BillR 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of LT Don
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

No, way too soon to worry. It is fun to watch the auction the last five
minutes -- just keep hitting refresh. Only rarely do I even know the winning
bidder is interested until the last 3 minutes or less.

On 4/25/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Ok, so I shouldn't be too worried about it not meeting my reserve (at
 least not yet). The NADA (which I always thought was low on older
 Mercedes) says the book is $5500-6100 retail.   I won't worry about it.








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Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread BillR
Don - The only time I have been scammed on e-bay was when I didn't do my
homework.  Seller had good feedback, but when the item didn't show up I
actually looked and discovered all the feedback was from the same buyer.
Check the comments on low feedback buyers pretty closely.
BillR 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Redghost
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:48 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

Donald,

Make sure the car is EXACTLY as you stated in the listing.  Even  
better condition than listed.  For some reason the sellers I have  
dealt with on eBay are less than honest about their product and get  
bad feedback.

Give it a quick wash and vac before delivery.  Make sure fluids are  
up, wheels aired, and everything you said is working.

Payment is best if it is cash or you and the buyer take his cashiers  
cheque to the bank together.  Let him know that is the plan.  It has  
a better chance of being real if he knows the bank will process it in  
front of him.

Lurkers may be waiting to swoop in at the last moment, but you should  
see some activity either early or in the last 12 hours as it heats  
up.  If you have some bids, that tends to make others bid, and the  
original fellow to up his bid.



On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

 I have never sold anything on Ebay.  So, I am wondering if anyone has
 any hints about making sure I don't get screwed.  (it may be too late
 now, since the car is already for sale.)  But, I guess the thing to  
 know
 is that I should watch out for fake cashier's checks and obviously I
 won't release the car until I have the money.  Any other thoughts?



 As an update - two people have bid on the car. It is up to $3175.   
 It is
 not to my reserve, yet. If anyone is curious - the reserve is  
 $4900. So,
 if you want it that is the price.  In fact, if anyone on here wants it
 for $4900, I will end the auction early.



 8 people are watching it- which makes me feel a little like Big  
 Brother
 is watching you.



 Donald H. Snook



--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] Rosie

2007-04-26 Thread ts

she is a sweat hog
- Original Message - 
From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rosie


Why the [EMAIL PROTECTED] do you care what she thinks about anything?  You guys watch 
way

too much TV.


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Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread LarryT
There was a 1996 Porsche 911 Cabriolet for sale recently - asking $20k when 
it was easily worth $30k-$45k depending on several things - the odd thing 
was the seller said the car was in Italy but would be shipped as part of the 
deal once the deposit of $1000 was made.  He said he'd airfreight to a port 
close to me and at that point I could complete the deal or decline.


He had a explanation of taking a transfer to Italy and shipping his 911 then 
discovering a high tax/registration fee which suppossedly forced him to 
sell.  Hard to believe he wouldn't get a feel for these things before 
shipping it.


However, he obviously had no plans to even go through with the sale - it 
became obvious that he was trying to get deposits and then disappear.  When 
I said I had a friend who could come to Italy to look at the car and 
finalize the deal for me the seller stopped responding to my emails. ;-)


They have a million scams -

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice




On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:26 PM, LarryT wrote:


The scam is offering a cashiers check or money order for over
the price
is often done in the mail - you get the check, depoist it and are
asked to
mail the extra to their shipping agent.


For these I just ask the other party to send the money via Western
Union.
Oddly they never send the money and are never heard from again...


John
1983 300TDt  382k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  192k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Rosie

2007-04-26 Thread LarryT
Chuck wrote:I do worry about the  opinions gathered by those who DO watch 
TOO much TV


Hi Chuck,
   I've never watched Jerry Springer in my life but have seen his 
commercials and caught segments on some funniest of shows - my biggest 
worry??   - every one of those morons on those shows - from fathers wanting 
to marry their daughters to sons wanting to marry mothers and all the other 
crazies they think the US viewing public wants to see - they have a *vote* - 
and their vote means as much as any of the thoughtful people on this list - 
regardless of political persuasion - at least I am relatively certain the 
people here will take the time to listen to those they plan to vote for!


   Those morons on J. Springers' show and the others like it appear to be 
limited in their attention spans -

;-)
   Now that I think about it, *that's* why it's important what Rosie has to 
say - because there's a world of people sitting in front of the TV screens 
in their underware eating Twinkies  listening --  and worse, *believing* 
all the $hit that flows from her non-functioning brain  mouth.


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From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Rosie



No, Casey, I don't watch too much TV, but I do worry about the
opinions gathered by those who DO watch TOO much TV!!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

PS.  I will admit that I spend too much time with a coujpla' MB
subscriber lists!   Mea Culpa!

C
On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


Why the [EMAIL PROTECTED] do you care what she thinks about anything?  You guys
watch way
too much TV.


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Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread Donald Snook
Thanks to everyone who offered advice about selling on ebay.  It was a
big help.   

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale ebay # 170105049082)



Re: [MBZ] OT: Hey LT Don: motorcycle oil

2007-04-26 Thread Curt Raymond

Won't load.

Never-the-less on my commute home last night I pretty much convinced myself to 
give M1 15w50 a shot. It'll be nice to stock one less weight of oil...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:51:56 -0500
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Curt:

See http://don.homelinux.net/~don/HondaIndex.html

Don

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 Your bike is a '70something right? That'd be Honda's near swansong 
from
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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don's MC, was: My 300SEL on ebay

2007-04-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:56:10 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Read the whole article - it's not a Diesel - it's a vergasser, which
 is why there is a stock of engines - after the pentagon discovered
 that a well place hand grenade would blow up the gas tank, they
 switched to Diesel engines.
 
 
  But how about a diesel hotrod?
 
  http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/1302941.html

Hmmm ... I guess I misread it.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html
 Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a
 challenge...

You're actually supposed to drive them in the Seattle/Tacoma area. That
way you can hear the Peugeot Sound.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:13:33 -0500 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale ebay # 170105049082)

thenobleprofessor ? 



Craig



Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Mike Canfield
Well being we are on our way to some really bad jokes.What do you call a 
Peugot that runs on veggie oil?  A French fry...HArdy har har.LOLOL


Mike
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html
Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a
challenge...


You're actually supposed to drive them in the Seattle/Tacoma area. That
way you can hear the Peugeot Sound.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don's MC, was: My 300SEL on ebay

2007-04-26 Thread Allan Streib
Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:56:10 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Read the whole article - it's not a Diesel - it's a vergasser,
 which is why there is a stock of engines - after the pentagon
 discovered that a well place hand grenade would blow up the gas
 tank, they switched to Diesel engines.

I believe current military procurement also wants all vehicles to be
able to run on either diesel, jet fuel, or kerosene so that they only
have to send one kind of fuel to the battlefield.

Hence the diesel motorcycle, earlier in this thread.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Rosie

2007-04-26 Thread Mitch Haley


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 she is a sweat hog

I think you just insulted Arnold Horshack.

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost
But Casey,  you are running a newer model than Gump.  Her fuel just  
gels right up and will not flow at temps  below 37*F.  All that old  
glow plug system does is slightly warm the pre-chamber and then the  
fuel gets stuck in the filters or oozes through the lines under the  
car.  Eight feet of thin, uninsulated tin pipe sucks calories right out.


The ED on the other hand has no major issue with the fuel, other than  
having it eat all the rubber bits to the tune of $1800 for replacing  
IP seals and fuel hoses over a six month period.  Now SWMBA will only  
run at B50 or less





On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

I've never had any trouble running B99 during the deepest Winter  
months,

around here.

On 4/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


yes

Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F, but the
#2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from
October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to
use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.



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Re: [MBZ] E63

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost
Bet you did that only once.  What did you end up funding for the  
cops?  I learned to drive at a crawl in the small towns after  
depleting bank accounts for being speed racer on the Beemer



On Apr 25, 2007, at 10:02 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

I used to own a rare Mars Red '81 Scirocco S.  I was hot shit,  
back in the
day.  I had a front spoiler and everything, which made me near  
royalty.  I
got a ticket in Ritzville WA for doing 90mph in a 60 zone, so I  
know what

I'm talkin 'bout--m'kay?

On 4/25/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well, I know for a fact that an R sticker turns a POS arrozer  
into an

instant hi-po racer, although it appears now that since everyone has
them, you gotta step up to the rare S sticker to get full  
performance

capabilities and image establishment amongst your vatos.  Some
reflective tape applied in strategic locations also helps.



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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost

Casey may need that car

He likes the odd french ride

Citroen and such


On Apr 26, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html
Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a
challenge...


You're actually supposed to drive them in the Seattle/Tacoma area.  
That

way you can hear the Peugeot Sound.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Zoltan Finks

Yes, I was going to ask whether B99 capability in colder weather is
model-dependent. Perhaps my 123 would fall somewhere between you two
in B99 handling? That's another question though.

I'm disappointed to learn that for about half the year I'll have to
endure the decreased fuel efficiency of winterized fuel.

And Clay, are the rubber bits just your fuel lines, or are they from
the IP itself? I have no problem switching to Zyton lines (do I
remember the name right?), but if Bio is going to hurt the IP, I'll
probably think about it a lot longer.

Brian
83 240D

On 4/26/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But Casey,  you are running a newer model than Gump.  Her fuel just
gels right up and will not flow at temps  below 37*F.  All that old
glow plug system does is slightly warm the pre-chamber and then the
fuel gets stuck in the filters or oozes through the lines under the
car.  Eight feet of thin, uninsulated tin pipe sucks calories right out.

The ED on the other hand has no major issue with the fuel, other than
having it eat all the rubber bits to the tune of $1800 for replacing
IP seals and fuel hoses over a six month period.  Now SWMBA will only
run at B50 or less




On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

 I've never had any trouble running B99 during the deepest Winter
 months,
 around here.

 On 4/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yes

 Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F, but the
 #2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from
 October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to
 use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.


 Casey
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1995 E300D - Cleo
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Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost
I have not had issue with the IP internal seals in  Gump.  The E D  
had the issue and was a pig to deal with since it is all hidden under  
other things and needs special tools.  Gump is wide open and you can  
see what is leaking and fix it right off.  I change out the return  
lines when a leak occurs or weeping.  The fuel lines from the tank  
got replaced once, but were original to the car, so 


Viton lines and O-rings were installed in the E D, so no more issues  
foreseen there.  The rubber at the filler though is being dissolved.   
I have not had that issue with Gump.  Maybe I am just better at  
filling the tank than SWMBA.  Something you pick up at the urinal?


On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote:


Yes, I was going to ask whether B99 capability in colder weather is
model-dependent. Perhaps my 123 would fall somewhere between you two
in B99 handling? That's another question though.

I'm disappointed to learn that for about half the year I'll have to
endure the decreased fuel efficiency of winterized fuel.

And Clay, are the rubber bits just your fuel lines, or are they from
the IP itself? I have no problem switching to Zyton lines (do I
remember the name right?), but if Bio is going to hurt the IP, I'll
probably think about it a lot longer.

Brian
83 240D

On 4/26/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But Casey,  you are running a newer model than Gump.  Her fuel just
gels right up and will not flow at temps  below 37*F.  All that old
glow plug system does is slightly warm the pre-chamber and then the
fuel gets stuck in the filters or oozes through the lines under the
car.  Eight feet of thin, uninsulated tin pipe sucks calories  
right out.


The ED on the other hand has no major issue with the fuel, other than
having it eat all the rubber bits to the tune of $1800 for replacing
IP seals and fuel hoses over a six month period.  Now SWMBA will only
run at B50 or less




On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


I've never had any trouble running B99 during the deepest Winter
months,
around here.

On 4/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


yes

Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F,  
but the

#2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from
October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to
use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.



Casey
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'94 100CSQ Avant
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1995 E300D - Cleo
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Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker

2007-04-26 Thread LarryT
Ha!  I wonder where he dreamed up that $7000 value??  A 240D hasn't been 
worth that much since the 80s.


Great comment about the 5sp incl reverse.  ;-)

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http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/318717510.html
Paint looks pretty tough, wanna bet 5spd includes reverse?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread LarryT

Oh man!  That was bad - almost as bad as the French Fry joke.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html
Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a
challenge...


You're actually supposed to drive them in the Seattle/Tacoma area. That
way you can hear the Peugeot Sound.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

We didn't have any problems running the same combo in the 617 either.  A 615
and 617 aren't that much different.  Never gelled, at all.

You got raped, if they charged you $1800 to replace a bunch of  20 cent
o-rings in the IP, and a few feet of hose.  If that ever comes up again,
I'll do the job for $1745 tops.

On 4/26/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


But Casey,  you are running a newer model than Gump.  Her fuel just
gels right up and will not flow at temps  below 37*F.  All that old
glow plug system does is slightly warm the pre-chamber and then the
fuel gets stuck in the filters or oozes through the lines under the
car.  Eight feet of thin, uninsulated tin pipe sucks calories right out.

The ED on the other hand has no major issue with the fuel, other than
having it eat all the rubber bits to the tune of $1800 for replacing
IP seals and fuel hoses over a six month period.  Now SWMBA will only
run at B50 or less




On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

 I've never had any trouble running B99 during the deepest Winter
 months,
 around here.

 On 4/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 yes

 Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F, but the
 #2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from
 October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to
 use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.


 Casey
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 '87 300TD intercooler/propane
 '94 100CSQ Avant
 '90 90Q
 '89 Bluestar
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1995 E300D - Cleo
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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

I think I'm in love with the idea of owning a French car; not so sure I ever
want achieve the dream, though.

On 4/26/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Casey may need that car

He likes the odd french ride

Citroen and such


On Apr 26, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html
 Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a
 challenge...

 You're actually supposed to drive them in the Seattle/Tacoma area.
 That
 way you can hear the Peugeot Sound.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Rosie

2007-04-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

Those who watch TrashTv seldom bother to vote, so you have little to worry
about.

On 4/26/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Chuck wrote:I do worry about the  opinions gathered by those who DO
watch
TOO much TV

Hi Chuck,
   I've never watched Jerry Springer in my life but have seen his
commercials and caught segments on some funniest of shows - my biggest
worry??   - every one of those morons on those shows - from fathers
wanting
to marry their daughters to sons wanting to marry mothers and all the
other
crazies they think the US viewing public wants to see - they have a *vote*
-
and their vote means as much as any of the thoughtful people on this list
-
regardless of political persuasion - at least I am relatively certain the
people here will take the time to listen to those they plan to vote for!

   Those morons on J. Springers' show and the others like it appear to be
limited in their attention spans -
;-)
   Now that I think about it, *that's* why it's important what Rosie has
to
say - because there's a world of people sitting in front of the TV screens
in their underware eating Twinkies  listening --  and worse, *believing*
all the $hit that flows from her non-functioning brain  mouth.

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 No, Casey, I don't watch too much TV, but I do worry about the
 opinions gathered by those who DO watch TOO much TV!!

 Chuck
 Phoenix AZ

 PS.  I will admit that I spend too much time with a coujpla' MB
 subscriber lists!   Mea Culpa!

 C
 On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

 Why the [EMAIL PROTECTED] do you care what she thinks about anything?  You 
guys
 watch way
 too much TV.


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Re: [MBZ] Rosie

2007-04-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

Was tha a typo?  Did you mean sweet hog?

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 she is a sweat hog

I think you just insulted Arnold Horshack.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker

2007-04-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

Believe it or not, most 5 speeds in cars on ebay include reverse...

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Ha!  I wonder where he dreamed up that $7000 value??  A 240D hasn't been
worth that much since the 80s.

Great comment about the 5sp incl reverse.  ;-)

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Subject: [MBZ] Crack smoker


 http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/318717510.html
 Paint looks pretty tough, wanna bet 5spd includes reverse?

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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Rich Thomas

I hear they go much faster in reverse than in forward gears.

--R

Zeitgeist wrote:

I think I'm in love with the idea of owning a French car; not so sure I ever
want achieve the dream, though.

  
  





Re: [MBZ] Winterized fuel in WA state?

2007-04-26 Thread Redghost
Oh, it was not all at the same time.  There were a number of trips in  
to deal with a multitude of leaks.  We thought we had traced and  
killed the trouble each time, but gremlins were at work and like a  
dutch dike, once you plug one hole, another sprouted.  Finally got  
them all tracked and slain.  Trouble was that each time you engaged  
the same process to tear it down and shop time rung up.



On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:

We didn't have any problems running the same combo in the 617  
either.  A 615

and 617 aren't that much different.  Never gelled, at all.

You got raped, if they charged you $1800 to replace a bunch of  20  
cent
o-rings in the IP, and a few feet of hose.  If that ever comes up  
again,

I'll do the job for $1745 tops.

On 4/26/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


But Casey,  you are running a newer model than Gump.  Her fuel just
gels right up and will not flow at temps  below 37*F.  All that old
glow plug system does is slightly warm the pre-chamber and then the
fuel gets stuck in the filters or oozes through the lines under the
car.  Eight feet of thin, uninsulated tin pipe sucks calories  
right out.


The ED on the other hand has no major issue with the fuel, other than
having it eat all the rubber bits to the tune of $1800 for replacing
IP seals and fuel hoses over a six month period.  Now SWMBA will only
run at B50 or less




On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


I've never had any trouble running B99 during the deepest Winter
months,
around here.

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yes

Advise that you do no more than B50 once it gets below 40* F,  
but the

#2 is cut with solvents to allow it to flow at lower temps from
October to April in the lower PS.  Upper elevations may continue to
use thinned fuel until late May if using the mountain passes.



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Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread Donald Snook
Craign wrote regarding my ebay ad: 

 

thenobleprofessor ? 

 

I know, I know it's a little weird.  I set up my account when I was in
law school when I thought I wanted to be a law professor (in fact, I
still might do that).  Theprofessor was taken as was many other
derivations of the same. I was not being arrogant, I thought at the time
(and maybe I still do)that turning down a career practicing law in favor
of educating young minds thirty for idealistic views on the law seemed
very noble.  

 

It was either that or fatlawyerguy 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] French Diesel

2007-04-26 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, Curt et al.
My aunt had a 504 SW (gas) that she adored, and I thought that it was ok with 
its long-legged suspension and strange shift pattern. I subsequently looked at 
a new 505 SW diesel and was not too impressed. Old push-rod style engine about 
100 hp and not too fast, though economical, 30mpg plus, as I remember. Best 
thing about it was the Bosch injection. The 604,5,6 were aimed at the upper 
segment of the market, so they were fancier than most other Peugeot cars.  If 
it is rust free and the engine trans are good, they can be economical fun to 
drive, a la 2.2 190D. Some of the gas engines from that era had soft cams and 
seized the oil pump relief valves and other expensive bits.
YMMV
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Larry T wrote:=20

=20

Ha!  I wonder where he dreamed up that $7000 value??=20

=20

Well, he did say that the antenna goes up and down.  Perhaps that is
worth a few thousand dollars.  (If the 95K miles is correct this would
be good car, but I can't see spending more than $1200-$1500 on this
car.) =20

=20

I bought a 1981 240D in beautiful condition in 2003 for $1100. It was an
auto. It only had 130,000 miles.   Man, those cars are dogs.  My shadow
once caught up to me.=20

=20

Donald H. Snook

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=20



Re: [MBZ] Technical Data Manual question - W123/W126

2007-04-26 Thread David Bruckmann
Thank you all for the info. I think it'll be the 1985 edition for me.
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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread David Bruckmann
The 604 is one of the least attractive, most pedestrian Pugs ever produced. It 
has the added distinction of being part of the reason for Citroen's departure 
from our shores: apparently Peugeot (which bought Citroen in 1975) felt that 
the stunning new Citroen CX would threaten the pending 604's success in North 
America. The 604 does not have the durability of the 504, nor the timeless 
lines of the 505. It's just a big ugly (usually rusty) box, IMHO.

The big thing with those diesels (which CAN go forever if properly cared-for) 
is to watch for head gasket problems, especially on the turbos in the 505s. 
There's also a tendency for oil leaks from the injection pump, depending on 
which pump it has.

Pug parts aren't very hard to get. Visit http://www.peugeotholm.com/ for more 
info.

D.


Curt Raymond wrote:

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/319090663.html
Anybody know anything about Peugeots? I presume getting parts is a challenge...

-Curt


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1986 Renault 9 (AMC Alliance) 1.7 (148,000 km) - as yet unnamed
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1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km)  Diva
1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km)
1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 
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Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread BillR
That second one would not have raised so many questions, but I think the
first one is better.
BillR

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Craign wrote regarding my ebay ad: 

 

thenobleprofessor ? 

 

I know, I know it's a little weird.  I set up my account when I was in
law school when I thought I wanted to be a law professor (in fact, I
still might do that).  Theprofessor was taken as was many other
derivations of the same. I was not being arrogant, I thought at the time
(and maybe I still do)that turning down a career practicing law in favor
of educating young minds thirty for idealistic views on the law seemed
very noble.  

 

It was either that or fatlawyerguy 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Ebay selling advice

2007-04-26 Thread R A Bennell

And if your experience was anything like mine, they really (and I mean really) 
needed some new professors to take
the place of some of the fossils that they still propped up in front of  the 
class to spew forth in a monotone.

Randy

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Craign wrote regarding my ebay ad:



thenobleprofessor ?



I know, I know it's a little weird.  I set up my account when I was in
law school when I thought I wanted to be a law professor (in fact, I
still might do that).  Theprofessor was taken as was many other
derivations of the same. I was not being arrogant, I thought at the time
(and maybe I still do)that turning down a career practicing law in favor
of educating young minds thirSty for idealistic views on the law seemed
very noble.



It was either that or fatlawyerguy





Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 137K

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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Kevin Kraly
I've seen a few 504's go up for sale on craigslist from time to time, and 
I've thought about purchasing one.  Some say that the 504 is ugly, but I 
prefer to call it slightly different.  While growing up, there was a 
neighbor a few houses down who had 4 504's, 3 being Diesels.  He and his 
wife had a '78 and a 79, both Diesel auto sedans, and two 76's, a Diesel 
wagon and a gasser sedan which had manny trannies.  Their daughter drove a 
505 Diesel manny tranny that was purchased later.  The interiors don't hold 
up as well as MB's though.


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[MBZ] Diesel light twin accident

2007-04-26 Thread RELNGSON

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/04/23/213371/accident-ignites-da42-engine-row.html


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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Allan Streib
Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think I'm in love with the idea of owning a French car; not so
 sure I ever want achieve the dream, though.

Years ago I knew a guy that had a Renault Alliance.  Based on that
memory, I'd never even think of owning a French car.

Renault Alliance scored in worst ratings in Engine, Clutch,
Driveline, Engine cooling, Suspension, Exhaust system,
Automatic transmission and Manual transmission ratings.
   -- The 1986 Consumer Reports Annual Auto Issue 

Hm.  Maybe it *looked* good.  Er, no -- it didn't.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel light twin accident

2007-04-26 Thread LT Don

Should'a used Diesel Purge.

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Re: [MBZ] French Diesel

2007-04-26 Thread Curt Raymond

Its in Saugus, go give it a look see. I'll run the idea of a French car aross 
the wife.
She wasn't real impressed with the Saab I wanted...

-Curt

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Hi, Curt et al.
My aunt had a 504 SW (gas) that she adored, and I thought that it was 
ok with its long-legged suspension and strange shift pattern. I 
subsequently looked at a new 505 SW diesel and was not too impressed. Old 
push-rod style engine about 100 hp and not too fast, though economical, 
30mpg plus, as I remember. Best thing about it was the Bosch injection. The 
604,5,6 were aimed at the upper segment of the market, so they were 
fancier than most other Peugeot cars.  If it is rust free and the engine 
trans are good, they can be economical fun to drive, a la 2.2 190D. Some 
of the gas engines from that era had soft cams and seized the oil pump 
relief valves and other expensive bits.
YMMV
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 http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/04/23/213371/accident-ignites-da42-engine-row.html


Yeah, with all the electronic controls and nannies it looks like a
dead battery might have killed the engine when the legs were pulled
up.

Don't know about the motors in the twin but I know one of the diesel
conversions shown in Oshkosh last year was based on a MB motor.   If
it was a 617 or 603 motor it would never have failed under climbout
because of an electrical glitch.  Then again with the weight of a 617
getting off the ground might be an issue...

Tony Wirtel



Re: [MBZ] Peugeot smoker

2007-04-26 Thread RELNGSON
In re: French smudgepot..

This calls for an intervention, quick,

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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread Zeitgeist

I remember seeing them with Motor Trend Car of the Year stickers in their
rear windows--ha.

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Years ago I knew a guy that had a Renault Alliance.  Based on that
memory, I'd never even think of owning a French car.

Renault Alliance scored in worst ratings in Engine, Clutch,
Driveline, Engine cooling, Suspension, Exhaust system,
Automatic transmission and Manual transmission ratings.
   -- The 1986 Consumer Reports Annual Auto Issue



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Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

2007-04-26 Thread David Bruckmann
Traditionally, there was always a BIG quality step from Renault up to any other 
French car. Worse still were the US-built Renaults, which were equipped with 
baroque AMC interiors and poorly tested equipment specific to the US-market. 
Even in France, the state-owned Renault's products were long known for their 
crummy quality -- until recently. They are the GM of France.

Having owned and driven Peugeots, Citroens, and Renaults of varying vintage, 
the Renaults were always pedestrian and poorly built in comparison. Engines 
were usually pretty good (except when the product of joint development, e.g. 
the Alliance engines, which were done with Volvo) but everything around them 
was crap. Peugeot was the boring man's Citroen. Very bourgeois, very 
understated, but usually very durable and with that timeless Pininfarina 
styling (205, 306, 405, 406, 504, 505, 605 etc). Citroens were top-of-the-line, 
but often either bizarre at the high end (DS) or ridiculously simple (2CV), 
both extremes bearing unconventional engineering solutions from a company that 
encouraged innovation.

The Renaults of the last 5-7 years are MUCH better (and this isn't easy for a 
Citroen man to admit), with great interiors and excellent fit  finish 
throughout. And if you're wondering about recent improvements at Nissan, look 
no further than Renault's influence for the explanation.

The French car industry went through its lowest ebb in the 1980s and 1990s. 
Their current products, no matter which company, are generally very good. In 
fact, in diesel technology they've often lead the world.

D.



Message: 18
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:42:59 -0400
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frenchie diesel?

Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think I'm in love with the idea of owning a French car; not so
 sure I ever want achieve the dream, though.

Years ago I knew a guy that had a Renault Alliance.  Based on that
memory, I'd never even think of owning a French car.

Renault Alliance scored in worst ratings in Engine, Clutch,
Driveline, Engine cooling, Suspension, Exhaust system,
Automatic transmission and Manual transmission ratings.
   -- The 1986 Consumer Reports Annual Auto Issue 

Hm.  Maybe it *looked* good.  Er, no -- it didn't.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



-- 
David Bruckmann, Toronto, Canada.
Current Reality:
1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin
1976 Citroen 2CV6 (142,000 km) Piaf  http://dolly.bruckmann.com/
1984 Mercedes-Benz 300TD (380,000 km) Gertraud
1986 Renault 9 (AMC Alliance) 1.7 (148,000 km) - as yet unnamed
Shady Past:
1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km)
1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde
1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km)  Diva
1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km)
1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 
2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km)

--



Re: [MBZ] slight miss with gas W103

2007-04-26 Thread E M

Thanks Peter,

Can you give me a few pointers where to look, what to check exactly?  Like I
say, you can hear a some missing and feel the stumble and shakes at idle
with my foot on the break.  There is also a slight miss when the car is put
into D or P, but not as bad.

Could it be a bad cap or wires?

Thanks again,
Ed
300E

On 25/04/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Look for a vacuum leak.

Your idle control system is working, idle in gear is 500 rpm, slightly
higher out of gear.

Peter


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[MBZ] M103 oil filter location?

2007-04-26 Thread E M

Hi Everyone,

Going to do the oil on the new to me 300E this weekend.  Has a M103 engine.
I'm going to do the first change from the bottom as I haven't had any luck
locating a vacuum pump yet to allow me to do it from the top.  I also want
to take off the sound shield and give it a good clean.  So, two questions,

Where is the oil filter located, and,

What should I torque the bolt in the pan too?  Oh, if you know the size
(mm), that's great too.

I'm going with the 20W/50 for this change Larry.  Let you know how it goes.

Thanks everyone,

Ed
300E