Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
I would not mind finding an 87 wagon. I guy I know will sell me his for 3k but its not quite as nice as yours. His as like 320k on it, new #22 head etc. John Robbins wrote: Joe Knight wrote: Excellent score, John! Was it part of an estate sale or what? What of the other 2 examples in that 1st pic? Nope, on a whim picked up an autotrader and saw an ad for it. Guy who owned it was a horse trainer, and needed a pickup instead. The other two are my '79 300SD (294k) and the 190D (204k) I bought off of Kaleb. The SD has a cracked piston though... so its not being driven outside of my driveway (it still runs!). How's your wagon doing? IIRC, you found a factory hitch for it... do you know where I might be able to find one as well? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS??
Mak - Don't forget our list mom in your search for parts - he has lots of them. You might have a hard time with parts for your older cars, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS?? You could have got it cheaper from me. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 06:15:20 -0400 BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best thing to do is to ask the list: List folks - Mak has a Lancia Flavia coupe, a 220S/1962, 230/1966, 280SE/1970 and a 300SE 1990. He is looking for mostly small interior parts [I think - Mak, chime in here]. Where are the best places to search? Silver Star Auto Recycling 11315 Dismantle Ct Rancho Cordova, CA (916) 631-7300 is the place where I got a replacement fender and hood for my '82 240D/3.0 (very good condition and the exact same color). They have a variety of things there, but I think you won't find the older cars. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS??
Best PnP or bone yard in Seattle are the Pull a Part in Lynnwood north of Seattle, and the other yard in Tacoma. Great prices and usually a benz or two. For newer models (last 25 years) try Aurora Auto Wrecking. Closer to retail prices, but they have lots of newer iron. clay On May 16, 2007, at 4:10 PM, BillR wrote: Mak - Don't forget our list mom in your search for parts - he has lots of them. You might have a hard time with parts for your older cars, though. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS?? You could have got it cheaper from me. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 06:15:20 -0400 BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best thing to do is to ask the list: List folks - Mak has a Lancia Flavia coupe, a 220S/1962, 230/1966, 280SE/1970 and a 300SE 1990. He is looking for mostly small interior parts [I think - Mak, chime in here]. Where are the best places to search? Silver Star Auto Recycling 11315 Dismantle Ct Rancho Cordova, CA (916) 631-7300 is the place where I got a replacement fender and hood for my '82 240D/3.0 (very good condition and the exact same color). They have a variety of things there, but I think you won't find the older cars. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Was: '87 300TD, Now: Canadian Comedians
I knew there were many others, which is why I wrote e.g.. I love all of them. On 5/16/07, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You missed a couple: Dan Aykroyd, John Candy, Eugene Levy, Jim Carey, Catherine O'Hara, Ivan Reitman, Tommy Chong, Kids In The Hall, Phil Hartman, Rich Little, Howie Mandel, Lorne Michaels, Andrea Martin, Rick Moranis, Wayne and Shuster, Dave Thomas, Michael J. Fox, Alan Thicke, Red Green, Tom Green, Colin Mochrie, Norm MacDonald... The list goes on and on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_comedians Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:59:38 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm going to buy this '87 300TD Those Canadians have a great sense of humor (e.g., Mike Myers, Martin Short, Ed Grimsley) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least
I cannot support D.C.'s pro football team as long as they have an offensive/racist name. Now if their mascot were a red-skinned spud I might be persuaded to change my mind... On 5/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least Tom H. wrote: Sometimes this group covers some really odd subjects. You said it, Tom. With all the computer stuff and ham radio stuff - I am lost sometimes. (I am not complaining I send some Off topic material, too. Plus, my delete key still works). It's just that I can't relate or comment on most of the Off-Topic stuff. We need to start a College Football thread, or a Missouri Tigers thread, or republican politics - oh wait we can't do that. I am often amazed at some of the excellent advice that comes from some of our listers. People think I know a lot about Mercedes. Mostly, it is just whatever I can parrot from what I read in the last digest. Here's an off-topic subject for you - why the Washington Redskins (or St. Louis Cardinals) are the greatest sports team in the country. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water Pump
Oh, I *know* where my coolant leak is. There's a pinhole near the top of the radiator that I can't seem to get sealed - god knows I've tried. It's so slow that I mostly just ignore it, but I obviously needed to check it a little more often. Also, I thought it'd probably stop leaking once it hit the level of the pinhole, but it didn't - probably because the system under pressure doesn't quite work how I think. Stuart S. Peter Frederick said: Ah, but the first sign of a failing water pump bearing is often coolant leaking out the weep hole on the bottom. Do check that, and find the coolant leak at any rate, it will only get worse otherwise Peter
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least
Yeah, OK...The Washington Native Americans really just doesn't sound quite as threatening does it? Isn't that what the whole idea of names like that was in the first place? Here we go with the pussification again..A red skinned spud ay? Then you discrimnate against the folks in Idaho... Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least I cannot support D.C.'s pro football team as long as they have an offensive/racist name. Now if their mascot were a red-skinned spud I might be persuaded to change my mind... On 5/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least Tom H. wrote: Sometimes this group covers some really odd subjects. You said it, Tom. With all the computer stuff and ham radio stuff - I am lost sometimes. (I am not complaining I send some Off topic material, too. Plus, my delete key still works). It's just that I can't relate or comment on most of the Off-Topic stuff. We need to start a College Football thread, or a Missouri Tigers thread, or republican politics - oh wait we can't do that. I am often amazed at some of the excellent advice that comes from some of our listers. People think I know a lot about Mercedes. Mostly, it is just whatever I can parrot from what I read in the last digest. Here's an off-topic subject for you - why the Washington Redskins (or St. Louis Cardinals) are the greatest sports team in the country. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
Joe, If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! Jeff
Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS??
On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:58:28 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could have got it cheaper from me. Probably, but I was driving by Sacramento. And the color matches the rest of the car, so I don't have to do any painting. That would shift the price balance significantly away from even free parts. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least
I was amaazed when the DC NBA team changed their name from the offensive Bullets to the much less offensive name of the main guy of a KKK group, Wizards. Brilliant! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least Yeah, OK...The Washington Native Americans really just doesn't sound quite as threatening does it? Isn't that what the whole idea of names like that was in the first place? Here we go with the pussification again..A red skinned spud ay? Then you discrimnate against the folks in Idaho... Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least I cannot support D.C.'s pro football team as long as they have an offensive/racist name. Now if their mascot were a red-skinned spud I might be persuaded to change my mind... On 5/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least Tom H. wrote: Sometimes this group covers some really odd subjects. You said it, Tom. With all the computer stuff and ham radio stuff - I am lost sometimes. (I am not complaining I send some Off topic material, too. Plus, my delete key still works). It's just that I can't relate or comment on most of the Off-Topic stuff. We need to start a College Football thread, or a Missouri Tigers thread, or republican politics - oh wait we can't do that. I am often amazed at some of the excellent advice that comes from some of our listers. People think I know a lot about Mercedes. Mostly, it is just whatever I can parrot from what I read in the last digest. Here's an off-topic subject for you - why the Washington Redskins (or St. Louis Cardinals) are the greatest sports team in the country. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS??
that is true. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:58:28 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could have got it cheaper from me. Probably, but I was driving by Sacramento. And the color matches the rest of the car, so I don't have to do any painting. That would shift the price balance significantly away from even free parts. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish -wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least
Those Wizards sure are Grand ay? Mike - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish -wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least I was amaazed when the DC NBA team changed their name from the offensive Bullets to the much less offensive name of the main guy of a KKK group, Wizards. Brilliant! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - wasPeskySleazeballs- hey at least Yeah, OK...The Washington Native Americans really just doesn't sound quite as threatening does it? Isn't that what the whole idea of names like that was in the first place? Here we go with the pussification again..A red skinned spud ay? Then you discrimnate against the folks in Idaho... Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was PeskySleazeballs- hey at least I cannot support D.C.'s pro football team as long as they have an offensive/racist name. Now if their mascot were a red-skinned spud I might be persuaded to change my mind... On 5/16/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky Sleazeballs- hey at least Tom H. wrote: Sometimes this group covers some really odd subjects. You said it, Tom. With all the computer stuff and ham radio stuff - I am lost sometimes. (I am not complaining I send some Off topic material, too. Plus, my delete key still works). It's just that I can't relate or comment on most of the Off-Topic stuff. We need to start a College Football thread, or a Missouri Tigers thread, or republican politics - oh wait we can't do that. I am often amazed at some of the excellent advice that comes from some of our listers. People think I know a lot about Mercedes. Mostly, it is just whatever I can parrot from what I read in the last digest. Here's an off-topic subject for you - why the Washington Redskins (or St. Louis Cardinals) are the greatest sports team in the country. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Hey this is good car talk here - does anyone have input on this question? Brian On 5/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard of some VWs - not just this one - that use some sort of system to filter the exhaust. Are these systems - *any of them through the years * that you guys know of doomed like the infamous MB trap oxidizer or whatever is was called? http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/23/2008-vw-jetta-tdi-spotted-in-the-us/
Re: [MBZ] SL vacuum locks
Problem 3: Since this aluminum do-hickey takes up considerable room, the diaphrams for the trunk lock are fully compressed so there's no way for these diaphrams to exert any force I believe these diaphragms are actually sized for the under-dash HVAC pods, and don't really fit the door/trunk stuff at all. I also have a set in a box somewhere that also did not fit where I wanted them to. I go with good used, if you can find them at the boneyard, or just cough up the bucks to buy new. It really is nice when that system's operating as it should. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Nope - you're talking about something WAY TOO new for us cheap old timers On 5/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey this is good car talk here - does anyone have input on this question? Brian On 5/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard of some VWs - not just this one - that use some sort of system to filter the exhaust. Are these systems - *any of them through the years * that you guys know of doomed like the infamous MB trap oxidizer or whatever is was called? http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/23/2008-vw-jetta-tdi-spotted-in-the-us/ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7
What's PB? Pushbutton unit. Is it worth swapping out the black box? Of course. Unless, of course, it's too expensive for a gamble. It's the old song. You can use electrical test equipment to see if it's getting good inputs, then you can see if it's generating good outputs. Quite a bit more time-consuming than just swapping in a known good unit. However, coming up with a known good unit can be the hard part of doing it that way... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] SOLD!
Congratulations on the sale of your 450SL! So, what's next? No sales. Many repairs, however. Holy cow, Jim. That had been on the block for awhile, no? About what, 2.5 years? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] SL vacuum locks
Trunk and gas filler servos are not the same as the doorlock servos, and usually cannot be serviced. Find used ones or buy replacement new ones. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
No trap oxidzers after 1987, and VW did not use them on the TDI. They do suffer from glassy coke buildup in the intake from EGR soot, though. Peter
Re: [MBZ] WHERE ARE THE GOOD US BONE YARDS??
On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:49:57 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that is true. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:58:28 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could have got it cheaper from me. Probably, but I was driving by Sacramento. And the color matches the rest of the car, so I don't have to do any painting. That would shift the price balance significantly away from even free parts. But I'm interested in talking with you about some other parts. I need to get my list together, but first I need to go to bed. Craig
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Fair enough. It's actually too new/expensive for us too, but we are just exploring the options offered by some of these 40 mpg+ VWs. We are slowly coming back to our senses and remembering that we really do enjoy being free from car payments. Maybe a 5 - 7 yr. old model would be about an even trade monetarily (in the current way-overinflated market of diesels) for our 2000 CRV. Too bad the 190D 4 cyl. is so hard to find. Brian Tooling around on his 1980-something Schwinn On 5/16/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope - you're talking about something WAY TOO new for us cheap old timers On 5/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey this is good car talk here - does anyone have input on this question? Brian On 5/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard of some VWs - not just this one - that use some sort of system to filter the exhaust. Are these systems - *any of them through the years * that you guys know of doomed like the infamous MB trap oxidizer or whatever is was called? http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/23/2008-vw-jetta-tdi-spotted-in-the-us/ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Thanks. Yes, I've read in multiple classified ads that the owners have had the intakes cleaned. Guess this is something that Italian tuning-up cannot remedy? Brian On 5/16/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No trap oxidzers after 1987, and VW did not use them on the TDI. They do suffer from glassy coke buildup in the intake from EGR soot, though. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
Wrong-you might be talking about RI when you say that. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Wow..I didn't even know MA was big enough to have so many different names for parts of it...;) Mike - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Hey, Dwight. I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128. 495 maybe. Used to live in Portsmouth on Viking Drive with a view of the Old Stone Bridge (!) on the Sakonnet. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, (I know, from the North Shore, anything past Rte. 128 is Western MA. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
OK-Fred, You pass. Bad attempt at humour on my part. WE can do a MB listers map of NE prior to our summer gathering. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Hey, Dwight. I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128. 495 maybe. Used to live in Portsmouth on Viking Drive with a view of the Old Stone Bridge (!) on the Sakonnet. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, (I know, from the North Shore, anything past Rte. 128 is Western MA. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Zoltan Finks wrote: Thanks. Yes, I've read in multiple classified ads that the owners have had the intakes cleaned. Guess this is something that Italian tuning-up cannot remedy? Right. It's in the intake manifold, not the combustion chambers.
[MBZ] 124 wagons by the score
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/331061885.html Something fishy about this, but I'd be interested to know the real scoop. -Curt - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 17 13:11:17 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HoflF-0003Ga-3P for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 13:11:17 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c25so123597ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.240.19 with SMTP id n19mr244029anh.1179407469642; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.41.6 with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 06:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 06:11:09 -0700 From: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, was: Re: Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:11:17 - If you want, I can have a look around here for harnessesthere's millions of 124 T's floating around here! -Jeff Zedic Thx, Jeff, but I already got mine. John is mulling that prospect, but it's my possibly mistaken understanding that the MB factory hitches weren't exported to GB. IIRC, there's a thriving market for aftermkt hitches on Brit ebay. Shipping's probably a major hitch to bringing any of those things over as they are pretty heavy, plus unless you've got a contact on the ground near where you're buying from you've got to convince a potential seller to jump thru the extra hoops involved in pond hopping. -joe
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky
BillR wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? Yes, Bill it has pointy ends. Charlie Brown kept trying to kick before Lucy would yank it away. I just figured out why I don't have time to rebuild fuel injectors and resolder cruise control amps. I am watching football on Sunday. Crap! Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
Re: [MBZ] New Subject - Washington Redskins
Bob R. wrote: And, FWIW, David Stern is an idiot. I agree with you. But, I think you have the wrong sport. Stern is NBA, Dan Snyder is the Redskins owner. He might be an idiot. But, he knows how to make money. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
[MBZ] WOW! This is a nice 300CD
If I had my sold now, I would buy this CD. I LOVE the red. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item= 110125904164 It has a lot of miles, but looks like somebody has taken care of it. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K
Re: [MBZ] New Subject - Washington Redskins
I was just making a homer comment on Stern's suspension of the two Suns players for last nights game against the Spurs. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Subject - Washington Redskins Bob R. wrote: And, FWIW, David Stern is an idiot. I agree with you. But, I think you have the wrong sport. Stern is NBA, Dan Snyder is the Redskins owner. He might be an idiot. But, he knows how to make money. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fair enough. It's actually too new/expensive for us too, but we are just exploring the options offered by some of these 40 mpg+ VWs. We are slowly coming back to our senses and remembering that we really do enjoy being free from car payments. IMO you are much better off driving a car you can afford without making payments, even if the fuel mileage is unremarkable or even low. 40 MPG *sounds* nice in light of current fuel prices, but if you do a few calculations you may come to a different conclusion. Let's say you'd actually achieve 40 MPG in a new TDI, and you paid $20,000 for it (no idea -- maybe they're more or less, but bear with me). Assume you drive 15,000 miles a year, and fuel is $3.50 a gallon: (15000 / 40) * 3.50 = $1313 fuel costs for the year. Now compare to let's say a diesel benz such as my 300D. I get about 23 MPG last time I checked: (15000 / 23) * 3.50 = $2283 fuel costs for the year. So I save $970 a year in fuel by driving the TDI. But I only paid $3,000 for my 300D, a difference of $17,000. I'll have to drive that TDI for over 17 years before I recoup that in savings on fuel. Another way to look at it is that my $970 savings will be eaten up by interest on the loan in just a few months. Meanwhile the value of the car is depreciating rapidly. There are a lot of *good* reasons to buy a brand new car, but I think that doing it to get a car with better fuel mileage is not one of them. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
And factor in insurance on new vs old (drop collision on the old, cheaper to fix yourself than pay the ins co w/deductible), the difference is much more pronounced. --R Allan Streib wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fair enough. It's actually too new/expensive for us too, but we are just exploring the options offered by some of these 40 mpg+ VWs. We are slowly coming back to our senses and remembering that we really do enjoy being free from car payments. IMO you are much better off driving a car you can afford without making payments, even if the fuel mileage is unremarkable or even low. 40 MPG *sounds* nice in light of current fuel prices, but if you do a few calculations you may come to a different conclusion. Let's say you'd actually achieve 40 MPG in a new TDI, and you paid $20,000 for it (no idea -- maybe they're more or less, but bear with me). Assume you drive 15,000 miles a year, and fuel is $3.50 a gallon: (15000 / 40) * 3.50 = $1313 fuel costs for the year. Now compare to let's say a diesel benz such as my 300D. I get about 23 MPG last time I checked: (15000 / 23) * 3.50 = $2283 fuel costs for the year. So I save $970 a year in fuel by driving the TDI. But I only paid $3,000 for my 300D, a difference of $17,000. I'll have to drive that TDI for over 17 years before I recoup that in savings on fuel. Another way to look at it is that my $970 savings will be eaten up by interest on the loan in just a few months. Meanwhile the value of the car is depreciating rapidly. There are a lot of *good* reasons to buy a brand new car, but I think that doing it to get a car with better fuel mileage is not one of them. Allan
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagons by the score
Curt, isn't beantown your stomping ground? I know there is at least a couple of listers up that way. Someone want to have a look and see what the real scoop is? ...Kevin Curt Raymond said: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/331061885.html Something fishy about this, but I'd be interested to know the real scoop. -Curt
[MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
In case you've been hiding under a rock like my wife and I have, the cost of sending mail went up on Monday. Craig From http://postcalc.usps.gov/Popups/pop_up23.htm, First-Class Mail Letters First-Class Mail, Priority Mail, or Express Mail is required for personal correspondence, handwritten or typewritten material, and bills or statements of account. First-Class Mail may also be used for advertisements. First-Class Mail Letter Rates Weight Not Over (ounces) Rates 1 $0.41 2 0.58 3 0.75 3.5 0.92 Letters that weigh 1 ounce or less and meet one or more of the nonmachinable characteristics below are subject to the $0.17 nonmachinable surcharge. For heavier items, see Large Envelope or Package. *It is a square letter *It is too rigid \u2013 does not bend easily *It has clasps, string, buttons, or similar closure devices *It has an address parallel to the shorter dimension of the letter *It contains items such as pens that cause the surface to be uneven *The length divided by height is less than 1.3 or more than 2.5
[MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
In Gawgia. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300td-station-wagon-diesel-needs-work-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140119061737QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 17 14:50:09 2007 Received: from pmail10c2.megamailservers.com ([69.49.111.200]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HohIu-0005qj-P0 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 14:50:09 + Received: from pmail10c2.megamailservers.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmail10c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l4HEo2nt022363 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits%6 verify=NO) for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:50:03 -0400 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by pmail10c2.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.12.2/Submit) id l4HEo2Ec022362 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:50:02 -0400 Received: from mail.usa-truck.com (mail.usa-truck.com [70.182.105.226]) by webmail.technostars.com (Webmail 2.0) with HTTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:50:02 -0500 From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Webmail 4.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagons by the score X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:50:09 - $5950 for all 5? or each??? They're being vague in the add -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/331061885.html Something fishy about this, but I'd be interested to know the real scoop. -Curt
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
Hey that's kind of interesting -- what do you suppose happened, a valve broke off? Allan Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gawgia. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300td-station-wagon-diesel-needs-work-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140119061737QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
It seems than at Thu, 17 May 2007 06:56:17 -0400, Dwight wrote: Wrong-you might be talking about RI when you say that. Dwight On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Wow..I didn't even know MA was big enough to have so many different names for parts of it...;) Mike From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, Dwight. I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128. 495 maybe. While MA is not as small as RI, compared to many of the states further west, it doesn't seem big enough for lots of sub-regions. In another posting, Dwight wrote: OK-Fred, You pass. Bad attempt at humour on my part. WE can do a MB listers map of NE prior to our summer gathering. I don't think there are enough listers in Nebraska to bother trying to map them *smile* And in regards to size, NE's _short_ dimension is about the same as MA _long_ dimension. But I'm not from TX, so I don't necessarily thing that big is better - why, just a quick look at CA is pretty convincing!! -- Philip, stirring up trouble!
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
OK I read that auction again and he does say that a valve cracked. But -- isn't that a pretty rare thing to have happen? What would cause it? Just a random defect or is it indicative of other neglect? Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey that's kind of interesting -- what do you suppose happened, a valve broke off? Allan Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In Gawgia. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-300td-station-wagon-diesel-needs-work-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ140119061737QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
OK I read that auction again and he does say that a valve cracked. But -- isn't that a pretty rare thing to have happen? What would cause it? Just a random defect or is it indicative of other neglect? Maybe it was started on ether. Low mileage like that would mean a fuel tank teaming with algae. Perhaps the previous owner was ignorant of the ways of Benz... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7
I'm beginning to think it most likely that each of the (used) ACC PB panels I tried has cracked circuit boards... On 5/16/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's PB? Pushbutton unit. Is it worth swapping out the black box? Of course. Unless, of course, it's too expensive for a gamble. It's the old song. You can use electrical test equipment to see if it's getting good inputs, then you can see if it's generating good outputs. Quite a bit more time-consuming than just swapping in a known good unit. However, coming up with a known good unit can be the hard part of doing it that way... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Postage Rate Increase
If it is too thick it goes up too; a not-sharply-creased two page business letter in a com10 envelope can push out to about half an inch thik, so it will cost you $.80 instead of $.41 I sh*t you not -j. On Thu, 17 May 2007, Craig McCluskey wrote: In case you've been hiding under a rock like my wife and I have, the cost of sending mail went up on Monday. Craig From http://postcalc.usps.gov/Popups/pop_up23.htm, First-Class Mail Letters First-Class Mail, Priority Mail, or Express Mail is required for personal correspondence, handwritten or typewritten material, and bills or statements of account. First-Class Mail may also be used for advertisements. First-Class Mail Letter Rates Weight Not Over (ounces) Rates 1 $0.41 2 0.58 3 0.75 3.5 0.92 Letters that weigh 1 ounce or less and meet one or more of the nonmachinable characteristics below are subject to the $0.17 nonmachinable surcharge. For heavier items, see Large Envelope or Package. * It is a square letter * It is too rigid \u2013 does not bend easily * It has clasps, string, buttons, or similar closure devices * It has an address parallel to the shorter dimension of the letter * It contains items such as pens that cause the surface to be uneven * The length divided by height is less than 1.3 or more than 2.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7
I'm beginning to think it most likely that each of the (used) ACC PB panels I tried has cracked circuit boards... Such failures are _extremely_ common. Almost as bad as trying a succession of used evil-chrysler-acc-servos-from-hell and deducing that you have other problems because swapping didn't work. (I.e., good luck finding a good used one.) The power for the monovalve can be sapped by a shorted auxiliary water pump. Is that OK? You can unplug it, it's not like you'll really need it. (Especially now.) -- Jim
[MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 17 16:11:22 2007 Received: from web35714.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([66.163.179.168]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HoiZV-00080Z-MB for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:11:22 + Received: (qmail 92534 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2007 16:11:13 - X-YMail-OSG: aHljrekVM1nuyyKv8ArN7RMNeuvOrfROPCB1MtH6Iyy_r4mmJgBov1XhbUI5tamzsN.AGaDFiyLVAydSJhWLC6gaOJWLCQBWlP2vXzN3839LmZN4SIa_bx6Xvm7WQQ-- Received: from [72.70.94.77] by web35714.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 09:11:13 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:11:22 - Dwight. I am an Englishmen and view all of life through a filter of humor, wit and irony. So, if you receive any thing from me , remember to apply the funny/sarcastic/ironic filter.When life ceases to amuse me I'll know that I'm dead. As for the map, do you know anyone else who can get lost in a telephone booth? Fred Moir Lynn MA p.s. The Old Stone Bridge doesn't exist anymore, went down in a storm in the 30's, I think, hence the (!). Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK-Fred, You pass. Bad attempt at humour on my part. WE can do a MB listers map of NE prior to our summer gathering. Dwight - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 17 16:48:30 2007 Received: from pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.61]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hoj9R-Xc-AI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 16:48:30 + Received: from user-1120efk.dsl.mindspring.com ([66.32.57.244] helo=OFFICE) by pop-gadwall.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Hoj9N-0004Eo-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 12:48:25 -0400 From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 12:48:21 -0400 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AceYh0dg/CiPA5agSUWs/y19U+VMBAAG9YDA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:48:30 - I perceive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky BillR wrote: Donald - Remind me - Football is the one with the pointy ends, right? Yes, Bill it has pointy ends. Charlie Brown kept trying to kick before Lucy would yank it away. I just figured out why I don't have time to rebuild fuel injectors and resolder cruise control amps. I am watching football on Sunday. Crap!
Re: [MBZ] WOW! This is a nice 300CD
Remember that patience is a virtue. Dealing with a disability company that figures it is cheaper to deny claims and pay what they must if someone is willing to jump through all the hoops is not. It does pay better for some, though. Attys are meeting tomorrow to set up a timeline, for what that is worth. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] WOW! This is a nice 300CD If I had my sold now, I would buy this CD. I LOVE the red. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=item= 110125904164 It has a lot of miles, but looks like somebody has taken care of it. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 wagons by the score
More Fred's stomping ground than mine I'm about 70 miles west of Boston. Too far to convieniently hop out to look at stuff but not that bad. -Curt Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:14:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 wagons by the score To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Curt, isn't beantown your stomping ground? I know there is at least a couple of listers up that way. Someone want to have a look and see what the real scoop is? ...Kevin Curt Raymond said: http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/331061885.html Something fishy about this, but I'd be interested to know the real scoop. -Curt - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 17 17:29:40 2007 Received: from web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.35]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HojnH-0001QW-O3 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:29:40 + Received: (qmail 64087 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2007 17:29:33 - X-YMail-OSG: T5SpQb0VM1kGPm1L4ONCZfo.tCCE9k.4M5faCE_9SwxjfwuSNeqpf8RDDvV5BLVGk_Hkst8CW5VrYrg8e5jY.M58WkF2om.G9.s5SqiPafUC3MCOeWlXC8hGqD3GGQ-- Received: from [198.51.119.155] by web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:29:32 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:29:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 17:29:40 - I can't tell if you're really not getting it... NE = New England... -Curt Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:49:29 -0500 From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII It seems than at Thu, 17 May 2007 06:56:17 -0400, Dwight wrote: Wrong-you might be talking about RI when you say that. Dwight On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Wow..I didn't even know MA was big enough to have so many different names for parts of it...;) Mike From: Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey, Dwight. I'm not so parochial as to think Western Massachusetts starts at 128. 495 maybe. While MA is not as small as RI, compared to many of the states further west, it doesn't seem big enough for lots of sub-regions. In another posting, Dwight wrote: OK-Fred, You pass. Bad attempt at humour on my part. WE can do a MB listers map of NE prior to our summer gathering. I don't think there are enough listers in Nebraska to bother trying to map them *smile* And in regards to size, NE's _short_ dimension is about the same as MA _long_ dimension. But I'm not from TX, so I don't necessarily thing that big is better - why, just a quick look at CA is pretty convincing!! -- Philip, stirring up trouble! - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 17 17:33:14 2007 Received: from web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.36]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hojqj-0001WB-UR for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 17 May 2007 17:33:14 + Received: (qmail 47375 invoked by uid 60001); 17 May 2007 17:33:07 - X-YMail-OSG: rF1.p3gVM1luzCIk6GL_b4qnyhhhBMZwQJ1kv.F3SmNS8G9GRGYak6GqI199paHWo_b6NOlYWeX8eX52spdZOpFeePhBehJQ_ewe Received: from [198.51.119.155] by web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 10:33:07 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 10:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe it was started on ether. Low mileage like that would mean a fuel tank teaming with algae. Perhaps the previous owner was ignorant of the ways of Benz... I thought about the ether possibility too. So would this 6 cylinder be a rodbender ? Have wiring harness problems? Any other common issues? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7
So under this scenario (shorted aux. water pump), when I unplug the pump my heat/cool modes will return to normal. Is this correct? On 5/17/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to think it most likely that each of the (used) ACC PB panels I tried has cracked circuit boards... Such failures are _extremely_ common. Almost as bad as trying a succession of used evil-chrysler-acc-servos-from-hell and deducing that you have other problems because swapping didn't work. (I.e., good luck finding a good used one.) The power for the monovalve can be sapped by a shorted auxiliary water pump. Is that OK? You can unplug it, it's not like you'll really need it. (Especially now.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it goes downhill from there... This is no bargain. On 5/17/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D drives slow
Is that all that's wrong with it? It might also be something broken in the throttle linkage that limit the accelerator, or a bad vacuum control valve that disables the turbo. On 5/17/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This weekend I might be going to look at an '85 300D. According to the owner it drove great last fall, then wasn't started for a few months and now struggles above 40mph. I'm thinking water/algae in the fuel and a shot of cleaner and new fuel filters should get it going again. The pictures look good, very clean, no obvious rust. She's asking $1500, I'm thinking if it looks in person like the pictures I'll offer $1000 and see what happens. -Curt - Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weird Topics was RE: Re: OT the Amish - was Pesky
Yes, Bill it has pointy ends. Charlie Brown kept trying to kick before Lucy would yank it away. I just figured out why I don't have time to rebuild fuel injectors and resolder cruise control amps. I am watching football on Sunday. Crap! I've had the best luck in using a soldapult to remove mose of the old solder and using new to re-solder. Heck one still worked after the car was rear-ended and totalled! -j.
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
On Thu, 17 May 2007, andrew strasfogel wrote: It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it goes downhill from there... This is no bargain. Yep, but the ACC wood is good, the visors look ok and so do they map pockets and seat covers. -j.
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
I always ask the seller what needs to be fixed to make the car perfect,
because they only want to dwell on the positives, no matter how
unimportant/irrelevant to value, e.g. Never been wrecked {as if this can be
proven], only highway miles, California car [before it came to be in Rhode
Island], recent tune up [for a diesel??}, fresh oil and filter, spare has
never been on the ground, wire wheels, power brakes and steering
On 5/17/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2007, andrew strasfogel wrote:
It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it
goes
downhill from there... This is no bargain.
Yep, but the ACC wood is good, the visors look ok and so do they map
pockets and seat covers.
-j.
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Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
He does advertise it as a parts car. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it goes downhill from there... This is no bargain. On 5/17/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQ categoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
Howdy - Actually, if someone could do the work themselves and wasn't buying it to sell for a profit, it might not be too bad. I'd like to see some better photos of the underside, rockers (no photos come close to the rockers) because as we know, *rust* is the devil of these great cars. I wasn't feeling like working on my 240D AC and had it basically rebuilt for around $1000. I would worry about the engine and trans on a car of this vintage unless some diagnostics could be performed - I guess you can tell, I'd love a late W123 turbo diesel wagon ;-) and sweat equity is my speciality - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This He does advertise it as a parts car. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it goes downhill from there... This is no bargain. On 5/17/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQ categoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/807 - Release Date: 5/16/2007 6:05 PM
Re: [MBZ] I Almost Missed This....
I suppose it you are paying a shop to fix everything. If that is the case, you really have no business owning a car like this in the first place. andrew strasfogel wrote: It's a genuine money pit, starting with $2K needed to fix the AC and it goes downhill from there... This is no bargain. On 5/17/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-Mercedes-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon-Great-For-Parts_W0QQitemZ180117249735QQihZ008QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Bob Rentfro '77 300D 173K '87 Acura Legend 184K Goodyear, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 VW Jetta TDI spotted - Trap oxidizer or No
Ah. Very good points to ponder guys. Brian On 5/17/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fair enough. It's actually too new/expensive for us too, but we are just exploring the options offered by some of these 40 mpg+ VWs. We are slowly coming back to our senses and remembering that we really do enjoy being free from car payments. IMO you are much better off driving a car you can afford without making payments, even if the fuel mileage is unremarkable or even low. 40 MPG *sounds* nice in light of current fuel prices, but if you do a few calculations you may come to a different conclusion. Let's say you'd actually achieve 40 MPG in a new TDI, and you paid $20,000 for it (no idea -- maybe they're more or less, but bear with me). Assume you drive 15,000 miles a year, and fuel is $3.50 a gallon: (15000 / 40) * 3.50 = $1313 fuel costs for the year. Now compare to let's say a diesel benz such as my 300D. I get about 23 MPG last time I checked: (15000 / 23) * 3.50 = $2283 fuel costs for the year. So I save $970 a year in fuel by driving the TDI. But I only paid $3,000 for my 300D, a difference of $17,000. I'll have to drive that TDI for over 17 years before I recoup that in savings on fuel. Another way to look at it is that my $970 savings will be eaten up by interest on the loan in just a few months. Meanwhile the value of the car is depreciating rapidly. There are a lot of *good* reasons to buy a brand new car, but I think that doing it to get a car with better fuel mileage is not one of them. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
I thought about the ether possibility too. So would this 6 cylinder be a rodbender ? Have wiring harness problems? Any other common issues? No rodbender. No wiring harness problems. Ac evap is a PITA to change. '87 300TD's are one of the Holy Grails of Mercedes dieseldom. It is the only year diesel 124 wagons were imported. It is also the only year that particular engine was imported in the 124 chassis. Very powerful. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD Fixer
Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No rodbender. No wiring harness problems. Ac evap is a PITA to change. '87 300TD's are one of the Holy Grails of Mercedes dieseldom. It is the only year diesel 124 wagons were imported. It is also the only year that particular engine was imported in the 124 chassis. Very powerful. OK so assume the head is trashed. I suppose a replacement could be scavenged from somewhere -- how much $$? Can that piston be changed out with the engine in the car? Would it be better to just try to find a complete donor engine? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
