Re: [MBZ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
All the local autotrader magazine ads also go on autotrader.com now. 
Been that way for a while so you get a wide exposure nationwide.  Still, 
there are certain vehicles which do better on ebay.


Ralph Morton wrote:

I'm not sure I agree with Mitch's comments - here's
why:

eBay gives you coverage and exposure to an
overwhelmingly large audience, making it far easier to
find a potential buyer.  Contrast this with the days
of "Auto Trader" (sorry, Kleb!) and other local types
of classified selling.

Certainly, as with any venue like this, it's always
"buyer beware," even more so due to the fact that the
seller and buyer are rarely withing reasonable
distances.

Even taking this into consideration, anyone who buys a
used car without a PPI is out of their mind, or is
otherwise willing to accept whatever faults or flaws
come their way.

I have purchased a number of cars on eBay, and using
the practices above, never felt I got ripped off or
that the car was misrepresented.

As for feedback, it's a very powerful tool, and should
be used carefully.  That being said, like any rating
system, you have to look at it wholistically, not just
as a raw number.  If I see someone doesn't have 100%
feedback, I go and look at their history.  In many
cases, it's because they screwed up early in the game
(as many budding eBay'ers do) and either burned soeone
unintentionally or pissed off a seasoned buyer/seller
who took out their wrath on a newbie.

However, if I see someone who has 1000 feedbacks with
a 98% rating, I will usually pass.  Their history
usually reveals their lack of business ethics.

You gotta look at the big picture... and when dealing
with folks on eBay, make it clear that they should
contact you with ANY problems or concerns before
posting feedback.  That's the way it should be.

RM



  
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Re: [MBZ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

they are pretty much the same.

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Yes, I do understand that these checks only go so far. In fact I don't think
they're worth the money. But, I think that they may help in some instances?
For instance if the Carfax comes back on the car I'm currently seriously
considering buying, and it says it's been in an accident or something,
that may push me over the edge in terms of my doubts as to whether it may
have been quickly and cheaply spiffied up by one of these foreigner
car-flipping rings.

The question is, more specificly, how does Autocheck compare to Carfax?

Brian


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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I have renewed mine.

Zoltan Finks wrote:

Does ebay's "Autocheck" car history report service do as much for the buyer
as does Carfax? Anybody used Autocheck before? It is quite a bit less
expensive than Carfax, so I'm considering coughing up for it.

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 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax request

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Report Run Date: 06/04/2007
 Vehicle Description:  WDBCA25DXLA519684
 TitleCheck:  No Record Reported to AutoCheck
 Problem Check:  No Record Reported to AutoCheck
 Odometer Check:  Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
 Vehicle Information:  Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
 Full History:  Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck




Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | 
Vehicle Information | Full History


 VIN:  WDBCA25DXLA519684
 Year:  1990
 Make:  Mercedes-Benz
 Model:  300 Series 300SEL
 Style/Body:  Sedan 4D
 Engine:  3.0L I6 MPI
 Country of Assembly:  Germany



Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | 
Vehicle Information | Full History




 Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1990 
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SEL (WDBCA25DXLA519684) show no significant 
Title events. When found, events often indicate past automotive damage 
or warnings associated with the vehicle title.



Problems Checked  Results Found
AbandonedNo Abandoned Record Reported to AutoCheck
DamagedNo Damaged Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fire DamageNo Fire Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Grey MarketNo Grey Market Record Reported to AutoCheck
Hail DamageNo Hail Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Insurance LossNo Insurance Loss Record Reported to AutoCheck
JunkNo Junk Record Reported to AutoCheck
Rebuilt/RebuildableNo Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Reported to AutoCheck
SalvageNo Salvage Record Reported to AutoCheck



Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | 
Vehicle Information | Full History




 Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1990 
Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SEL (WDBCA25DXLA519684) shows no historical 
events that indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems 
can indicate previous car damage, theft, or other significant problem.



Problems Checked  Results Found
NHTSA Crash Test VehicleNo NHTSA Crash Test Record Reported to 
AutoCheck

Frame DamageNo Frame Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Major Damage IncidentNo Major Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck
Manufacturer Buyback/LemonNo Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record 
Reported to AutoCheck

Odometer ProblemNo Odometer Problem Record Reported to AutoCheck
RecycledNo Recycled Record Reported to AutoCheck
Salvage AuctionNo Salvage Auction Record Reported to AutoCheck
Water DamageNo Water Damage Record Reported to AutoCheck



Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | 
Vehicle Information | Full History




 Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 1990  Mercedes-Benz  300 Series 
300SEL  (WDBCA25DXLA519684) no indication of an odometer rollback or 
tampering was found. We calculate odometer rollbacks by using AutoCheck 
business rules to determine reported odometer readings are less than a 
previously reported value. Other odometer events can report events of 
tampering, or possible odometer breakage. AutoCheck's business rules 
have been created and refined to help identify potential rollbacks from 
the reported odometer readings. Not all odometer readings are used to 
determine rollbacks.



Report Date: 06/04/2007
Date Reported  Odometer Reading
09/20/1993  381
03/13/1997  65,000
11/09/1998  67,290
01/08/2003  75,709
01/22/2003  75,785
06/30/2006  126,923



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 Information Found! AutoCheck found additional information on this 
vehicle. These records will provide you with more past history for this 
1990 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300SEL (WDBCA25DXLA519684).



Problems Checked  Results Found
Accident DataNo Accidents Reported Through State Agencies Or 
Independent Sources

Corrected TitleNo Corrected Title Record Reported to AutoCheck
Driver EducationNo Driver Education Record Reported to AutoCheck
Duplicate TitleDuplicate Title Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Emission/Safety InspectionEmission/Safety Inspection Record(s) 
Reported to AutoCheck
Fire Damage IncidentNo Fire Damage Incident Record Reported to 
AutoCheck

LeaseNo Lease Record Reported to AutoCheck
LienLien Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck
Livery UseNo Livery Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
Government UseNo Government Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
Police UseNo Police Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
FleetNo Fleet Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fleet and/or RentalNo Fleet and/or Rental Record Reported to AutoCheck
RentalNo Rental Record Reported to AutoCheck
Fleet and/or LeaseNo Fleet and/or Lease Record Reported to AutoCheck
RepossessedNo Repossessed Record Reported to AutoCheck
Storm Area Registration/TitleNo Storm Area Registration/Title 
Indicated

Taxi UseNo Taxi Use Record Reported to AutoCheck
TheftNo Theft Record Reported to AutoCheck



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
Kaleb,

You must be shopping a different market than I am or maybe I'm just a more
critical shopper.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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I dont really agree with that.  There are not near than many 10 year old 
turd cars, although there are lots.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not
> been turds?
> 
> In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are
> turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different?
> 
> Also, I have a 1959 220S for sale locally & I refuse to list it on eBay.
> Why? Because I'm a eBay reseller
(http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales)
> and I don't want to deal with the 100's of questions that the listing will
> generate.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>  
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  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Heya

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you want to sell something  you can post it.  If you need used parts, 
see the link at the bottom of each message.  I have plenty of those 
available.


John W. Reames III wrote:
I don't rmemeber what the policy is on "classifieds", but I have a need 
for the "U" shaped tube that goes between the air cleaner and the turbo on 
a 617a engine (this one lives in a 1985 123.133)  I believe that mine had 
the clamp severly overtorques prior to my ownership, as the air cleaner 
end has its size slightly reduced; it does not go on very well at all, and 
when it does, the donut (even a brand new one!) is pushed down inside the 
tube.


How much would one of these things be worth?

Thanks
-j.

1985 300d "Gerta"
1999 E300Dt "Hans"
1999 E300Dt "Frantz"


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 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well we used it at the RustyQ, then when we got back  home all the 
sudden it wouldnt boot.  The DVD drive stopped reading disks all the 
sudden for the PO and we just never replaced it.  So using the restore 
cd to restore it wouldnt work without the drive.  I hooked the external 
up but it was set to read the disk in its own drive so even though it 
sould boot from the external, it wouldnt do the restore.  Ended up 
taking the drive out of the other laptop and fitting it to the Toshiba. 
 Got it restored but its doing something wierd.  It supposedly restored 
it to new configuration.  I noticed when you opened some windows to 
change settings, it would be a WIDE window that you drag over and it 
never seems to end.  Also, no text shows up in the windows.  So like if 
you open a box to change something, none of the text shows up on the 
buttons or tabs.  Its the strangest thing I have ever seen.


OK Don wrote:

And now it won't boot 

On 6/4/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I didnt buy it, but thats how much it cost new a couple of years ago.





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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont really agree with that.  There are not near than many 10 year old 
turd cars, although there are lots.


Tom Hargrave wrote:

How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not
been turds?

In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are
turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different?

Also, I have a 1959 220S for sale locally & I refuse to list it on eBay.
Why? Because I'm a eBay reseller (http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales)
and I don't want to deal with the 100's of questions that the listing will
generate.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 


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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Ralph Morton
I'm not sure I agree with Mitch's comments - here's
why:

eBay gives you coverage and exposure to an
overwhelmingly large audience, making it far easier to
find a potential buyer.  Contrast this with the days
of "Auto Trader" (sorry, Kleb!) and other local types
of classified selling.

Certainly, as with any venue like this, it's always
"buyer beware," even more so due to the fact that the
seller and buyer are rarely withing reasonable
distances.

Even taking this into consideration, anyone who buys a
used car without a PPI is out of their mind, or is
otherwise willing to accept whatever faults or flaws
come their way.

I have purchased a number of cars on eBay, and using
the practices above, never felt I got ripped off or
that the car was misrepresented.

As for feedback, it's a very powerful tool, and should
be used carefully.  That being said, like any rating
system, you have to look at it wholistically, not just
as a raw number.  If I see someone doesn't have 100%
feedback, I go and look at their history.  In many
cases, it's because they screwed up early in the game
(as many budding eBay'ers do) and either burned soeone
unintentionally or pissed off a seasoned buyer/seller
who took out their wrath on a newbie.

However, if I see someone who has 1000 feedbacks with
a 98% rating, I will usually pass.  Their history
usually reveals their lack of business ethics.

You gotta look at the big picture... and when dealing
with folks on eBay, make it clear that they should
contact you with ANY problems or concerns before
posting feedback.  That's the way it should be.

RM



  
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Peter Frederick

Closed position is set at the motor in the trunk.

The usual problem with these is broken lift angles, which are more 
trouble.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Gary Hurst

i have a pos sony laptop that has never given me a bit of trouble, but it's
still no pismo

On 6/4/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


HA, remember, computers loose their value FASTER than automobiles.  Try
$2,000.
I thought it was that POS Sony you have...

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Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of my
> other laptop and was able to get it to work
>
> Luther wrote:
>> I'll give you $50 for it
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Gary Hurst

i'd get a pismo if i were you

On 6/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


this is a PC

John M McIntosh wrote:
> If this is a Mac, you need a firewire connected external drive in
> order to boot from it.
>
> I recall that includes firewire based iPods btw.
>
> There is debate that you can boot from a USB drive for a subset of
> apple machines.
> Thus try it, it can only work, or not...
>
> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20061017084322177
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop wrote:
>
>> Got a laptop that will not boot, needs OS reinstalled.  The internal
>> removable CD/DVD drive will not read a disk.  Can I hook an
>> external cd
>> drive up via USB and it will boot from that to reinstall?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:26:46 -0500, Loren wrote:

> The only laptop I am aware of 
> that might be worth that kind of jack [$4500] is a toughbook for a military 
> contract.

Who says that a Toughbook is only good for military contract?!

Mine is a light-duty Toughbook, so it's not worth that much -
but it's still a Toughbook!

For others who "want in", stop by 
http://www.bobjohnson.com

for good deals on used portable computers.

-- Philip



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Allan,

The key word here is "SHOULD".!...

As the old saying goes, "shoulda, coulda, woulda don't count"

Take care

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Jun 4, 2007, at 12:12 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


If the car was in an accident, the police accident report should
eventually show up on CarFax, right?  Regardless of whether insurance
got involved?

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

I don't trust either because they only report what was reported to  
them.


I know of several local cars that would have been totaled, one a
very expensive BMW, had they been processed through an insurance
claim. But since the parents of the teenage drivers chose to take on
the repair cost themselves to keep the accedents off the kids
records, the work will never appear on CarFax or Autocheck report.

The same goes for any rust & corrosion repair.

Tom
www.kegkits.com


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread R A Bennell
Unfortunately, the modern era of the computer makes inventory "right" even when 
it is wrong. People don't look any
more. They just scan the code and assume all is well. I tried my darnedest 
(sp??) a few years back to get a part
for the carb in my old Chevy truck through the dealer. They really tried for me 
but the general concensus was that
the bin at the warehouse was labelled incorrectly. We ordered the same piece 
multiple times and kept getting the
same incorrect part. The parts man sent them a note with the order asking them 
to verify that the part was the one
we were asking for and not the part we kept getting but it did not seem 
possible to get the warehouse to look or
understand. I finally bought a rebuilt carb to solve my problem as I could not 
find the right one in the junk
yards.

Randy

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On 6/3/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> one of the "springs" MB sent
> me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper!  Part# looked right, and the
> description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch
> dia in the bag.

I've never known MB's warehouse people to put the wrong thing in the
bag (yet), but other mail-order parts places certainly have.  Once I
ordered a window switch from Performance Products (before I learned
about Rusty) and got a Porsche seat-heater switch.

Alex Chamberlain

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Allan Streib wrote:
> 
> If the car was in an accident, the police accident report should
> eventually show up on CarFax, right?  Regardless of whether insurance
> got involved?

Depends on whether they log it by VIN.



[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Allan Streib
If the car was in an accident, the police accident report should
eventually show up on CarFax, right?  Regardless of whether insurance
got involved?  

"Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't trust either because they only report what was reported to them.
>
> I know of several local cars that would have been totaled, one a
> very expensive BMW, had they been processed through an insurance
> claim. But since the parents of the teenage drivers chose to take on
> the repair cost themselves to keep the accedents off the kids
> records, the work will never appear on CarFax or Autocheck report.
>
> The same goes for any rust & corrosion repair.
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

Yes, I do understand that these checks only go so far. In fact I don't think
they're worth the money. But, I think that they may help in some instances?
For instance if the Carfax comes back on the car I'm currently seriously
considering buying, and it says it's been in an accident or something,
that may push me over the edge in terms of my doubts as to whether it may
have been quickly and cheaply spiffied up by one of these foreigner
car-flipping rings.

The question is, more specificly, how does Autocheck compare to Carfax?

Brian


On 6/4/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I don't trust either because they only report what was reported to them.

I know of several local cars that would have been totaled, one  a very
expensive BMW, had they been processed through an insurance claim. But
since the parents of the teenage drivers chose to take on the repair
cost themselves to keep the accedents off the kids records, the work
will never appear on CarFax or Autocheck report.

The same goes for any rust & corrosion repair.

Tom
www.kegkits.com

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Subject: [MBZ] [  SPAM  ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax
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Does ebay's "Autocheck" car history report service do as much for the
buyer
as does Carfax? Anybody used Autocheck before? It is quite a bit less
expensive than Carfax, so I'm considering coughing up for it.

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
I don't trust either because they only report what was reported to them.

I know of several local cars that would have been totaled, one  a very
expensive BMW, had they been processed through an insurance claim. But
since the parents of the teenage drivers chose to take on the repair
cost themselves to keep the accedents off the kids records, the work
will never appear on CarFax or Autocheck report.

The same goes for any rust & corrosion repair.

Tom
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Does ebay's "Autocheck" car history report service do as much for the
buyer
as does Carfax? Anybody used Autocheck before? It is quite a bit less
expensive than Carfax, so I'm considering coughing up for it.

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Re: [MBZ] A/C compressor failure modes (was: Time to replace A/C compressor)

2007-06-04 Thread John M McIntosh


On Jun 4, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

So did the compressor maybe just blow a seal or something like that?
Is A/C oil in an R12 system generally thin and clear when it leaks out
of the compressor?


Well when my r134a system's compressor seal failed in my 300TE
and it dumped oil on the ground it was very light viscosity, clear  
and didn't smell.



John
1983 300TDt  382k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 192k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)





[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Is Autocheck as good as Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

Does ebay's "Autocheck" car history report service do as much for the buyer
as does Carfax? Anybody used Autocheck before? It is quite a bit less
expensive than Carfax, so I'm considering coughing up for it.

Brian


Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

For what it's worth, I had the MB dealer near the Twin Cities sell me the
wrong tumbler. Guy just did not understand what I needed. He was new, and I
certainly understand that, but he had not received proper guidance,
supervision and training.

Brian


On 6/4/07, John W. Reames III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On 6/3/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never known MB's warehouse people to put the wrong thing in the
> bag (yet), but other mail-order parts places certainly have.  Once I
> ordered a window switch from Performance Products (before I learned
> about Rusty) and got a Porsche seat-heater switch.

I can attest to the wrong parts being shipped; I had a door replaced due
to rust-through.  The dealership ordered the door (PN 210 xxx ), and
received a box that bore the proper part number, but inside was a door PN
202 xxx .  The dealership immediately re-ordered the door, and a day
later, got an identical door; 202 in a 210 box.  The dealership then
ordered ANOTHER door and specified that it be from a different PDC and
that it be shipped via overnight. A week later, they get a slightly bigger
box, this time with a proper 210 door in it, via Watkins freight.

Yes, I called MBUSA customer care, and they politely assured me that all
they could do was apologize for the inconvenience.  I got the distinct
sense that they really wanted me to go piss up a rope.  Yes, this is
Diamler-Chrysler we are dealing with, folks!

I am hoping the divorce will lead to a return to Mercedes standards of
quality and service.

-j.
--
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1999 E300Dt "Hans"
1999 E300Dt "Frantz"


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: CD Changer

2007-06-04 Thread LarryT

You asked:<<
add a aux input port to your radio make more $ sense? >>>


Perhaps.  But the primary purpose of the changer is to allow my wife to 
listen to audiobooks while driving back and forth to work.  I would not want 
her trying to manipulate a MP3 player while driving - finding the chapter 
she paused, starting a new chapter, making sure the battery is charged, etc. 
With a CD Changer the changer can be loaded with a complete unabridged book 
to keep her usy for a week of commutes.


Thx for the suggestion though.  We have a MP3 player we use when there's 
more than one person in the car


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Ah, wouldn't a iPod/MP3 player and RF transmitter, or having becker
add a aux input port to your radio make
more $ sense? I'm sure my son's ipod has at least the 83 odd CDs of
material on it when he ripped every CD in
the house a couple of years ago, and my wife snapped up that
livingroom storage space and said CDs went to the basement.


On Jun 3, 2007, at 5:45 AM, LarryT wrote:


Howdy --


Has anyone managed to install an Alpine changer in a 91-94 W124
with a
Becker component system?

Anybody?  ;-)


John
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[MBZ] A/C compressor failure modes (was: Time to replace A/C compressor)

2007-06-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 6/1/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Recently, I noticed a pool of clear oil in the drip pan underneath the car
in the vicinity of the A/C compressor. I presume this is refrigerant oil
and that the seals on the compressor are now shot. I also presume I'll
need to replace the compressor when I try to get the system running again.


Reading this made a light come on in my head.  This weekend I was
under my Isuzu looking for the source of an oil leak which I thought
was coming from the valve cover above the A/C compressor (this is a
longitudinal V6 and the compressor mounts about halfway down the
block).  The main symptom besides the puddle under the car is oil all
over the compressor.  But I couldn't find any sign of engine oil
leakage where I was expecting to see it.

So did the compressor maybe just blow a seal or something like that?
Is A/C oil in an R12 system generally thin and clear when it leaks out
of the compressor?  (My previous experience with A/C leaks has
involved only blown hoses and failed fittings.)  Does it have a
distinct smell?  (This doesn't smell like much of anything.)  The A/C
did quit working a few weeks back, and it'd be nice to satisfy Occam's
razor with one explanation for both phenomena (failed A/C and the oil
puddle).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC



Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicken Boat

2007-06-04 Thread Kevin Kraly
about 3 gallons of Jill's Custom Injector Cleaner (3/4 gasoline, 1/4 diesel) 
into the truck's gas tank.


I know she'll never be able to live that one down.  BTW, how's the CW 
running these days?


Kevin in Hillsboro, (soon to be moving to Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 





[MBZ] [ SPAM ] brake anti-squeal paste

2007-06-04 Thread Allan Streib
Is this anything like the sunroof lube in that it is quasi-magical and
has no equivalent in the 3rd party market?

I recently updated the brakes on my 300D (new calipers and pads all
around, new rotors in front) but did not use the MB anti-squeal paste.
Lo and behold, my brakes are now squealing quite annoyingly.

Can I get something locally that will address the issue, or do I need
to use the genuine MB paste?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Marshall Booth

Loren Faeth wrote:

that's right, it was Dave, not Joe that did the writeup on the old mbz list


And Dave M CERTAINLY qualifies as an ADVANCED DIYer.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread John M McIntosh


On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


I've never known MB's warehouse people to put the wrong thing in the
bag (yet), but other mail-order parts places certainly have.



Mmm two weeks back the canadian parts warehouse guys stuck TWO fan  
resistor assemblies for my w140 in the bag.
When they gave me the bag (& bill) at the parts counter I was  
tempted, it is a $400+ part, however I did say mmm I
don't really need two, just ordered one you know.  Then a week later  
my cabin filter order came back with not one filter but 10,

for that I got a deal on the other 9, life time supply...



John
1983 300TDt  382k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  195k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 192k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)





Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread John W. Reames III


On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Alex Chamberlain wrote:


On 6/3/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've never known MB's warehouse people to put the wrong thing in the
bag (yet), but other mail-order parts places certainly have.  Once I
ordered a window switch from Performance Products (before I learned
about Rusty) and got a Porsche seat-heater switch.


I can attest to the wrong parts being shipped; I had a door replaced due 
to rust-through.  The dealership ordered the door (PN 210 xxx ), and 
received a box that bore the proper part number, but inside was a door PN 
202 xxx .  The dealership immediately re-ordered the door, and a day 
later, got an identical door; 202 in a 210 box.  The dealership then 
ordered ANOTHER door and specified that it be from a different PDC and 
that it be shipped via overnight. A week later, they get a slightly bigger 
box, this time with a proper 210 door in it, via Watkins freight.


Yes, I called MBUSA customer care, and they politely assured me that all 
they could do was apologize for the inconvenience.  I got the distinct 
sense that they really wanted me to go piss up a rope.  Yes, this is 
Diamler-Chrysler we are dealing with, folks!


I am hoping the divorce will lead to a return to Mercedes standards of 
quality and service.


-j.
--
1985 300D "Gerta"
1999 E300Dt "Hans"
1999 E300Dt "Frantz"




[MBZ] 603 VCV swap cures hard shifting

2007-06-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain

I had a satisfying car-repair weekend.  As long as I've had my 300D
it's shifted hard, especially at light throttle.  Downshifts were
especially bad: the typical suburban driving maneuver of rolling up to
a red light at 5 mph, then accelerating as it turns green to 30 mph or
so, was accompanied by a soundtrack of WHAM from the rear end on the
2-1 downshift and smaller bangs on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts.  Shifting
into reverse at idle produced a cringeworthy CLUNK that made me
envision gear-teeth inside the differential snapping off like icicles
on a sunny day.

I'd assumed that the tranny was just old, and that changing the fluid
frequently would be the only thing that would help it until such time
as it failed completely and would be replaced or rebuilt.  (And Mobil
1 did seem to help a little.)  Then I read some posts on the
mbshop.com forums about vacuum control adjustments, and decided to
test the vacuum control valve (the trapezoidal metal unit on the side
of the injection pump) and vacuum modulator (the blue plastic flying
saucer on the fender near the glow plug relay).  Lo and behold, the
VCV was passing zero vacuum to the modulator at all times (spec is 14
in. or so at idle, ranging more or less linearly down to 0 at full
throttle).

I swapped the VCV out with a new one, and adjusted it to spec---a
trivial job as long as you pull the washer reservoir first.  The
hardest part was waiting for the seal underneath to come in the mail
(not Rusty's fault---apparently it came by rowboat from Germany).  I
also changed out the O-ring on the shutoff lever, which was oozing
oil, while I was there.  That, too, was easy, except when I had to
deal with the accursed C-clip holding the lever on the shaft.  (What
do the M-B engineers have against ordinary snap rings, the kind with
two little holes for your snap-ring pliers so they don't get away from
you?  I know now that special tools exist to deal with C-clips, but I
didn't have them this weekend when it mattered.)

The difference was night and day!  I went on a long errand immediately
after, mostly about 100 miles of highway driving.  Shifts were
properly firm when accelerating on on-ramps (but not tooth-jarring),
and almost imperceptibly gentle at low speeds and light throttle.
Best of all, no more CLUNK on the shift into reverse---I had to look
down at the lever to verify that I hadn't just missed the notch and
gone from D into P or N.

Victory (as it so often is) was short-lived.  At some point during the
trip I sprung a major vacuum leak---the center air vent snapped shut
and now doesn't open regardless of ACC setting, and all shifts went
back to the previous state of CLUNKiness regardless of throttle
position.  A quick look under the hood didn't show any obvious
disconnections or other open points in the "circuit," so I imagine I
stressed one or more of the lines and cracked it/them while
manhandling things to get the old parts out and new ones in.  At least
I can be pretty sure that this new problem is upstream from the VCV
and tranny modulator, right?  The vacuum lines to the EGR and the
other emissions control nonsense down by the air filter are already
blocked (how did THAT happen???) so that narrows it down too.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth
all you need is gleitpase and the cable. about $80 or 90 from 
rusty.  Tell him what you need, he will look up the numbers.  the 
cable he sent me is what is described as the old style in Dave's 
photos.  I had to pry the attachment clip off the old cable and 
squeeze it back on the new (old style) cable.


The other place where i departed from Dave's writeup and the book 
procedure, is that I unbolted the 2 front guides and then was able to 
wiggle the lid out without removing the screws from the rails.  With 
the lid out, it is easy enough to remove the rails for 
reinstallation.  Before I put the roof back in, I put the front 
guides in the roof, and lined them up with the marks from the bolt 
heads to get the guides in the same position.  With a NFG cable, this 
made the disassembly much easier.  The cable on mine had a loop above 
the guide.  I was afraid to move it back anymore for fear I could not 
get it back forward to get the lid off.


Pulling the old cable out was not too tough on mine.  Getting the new 
cable in was a bit of a trick.  it seemed to catch or hang up at various spots.


Changing the cable is not too bad.  Once you have done it, you will 
be able to do it much faster the next time.


At 09:57 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:

Dave M. has a write-up about DIY 124 sunroof repair on Rusty's forum.
http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=656
http://www.124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/

I desperately need to open mine up and at least R&R the NFG cable.

Loren, if you have the time, could you post a list of part #s and prices for
all the items required to do a proper service?

TIA


Casey
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Chicken Boat

2007-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Jim Cathey wrote:
> 
> I must be crazy:  http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/boat.html

You must be to mention "Jill's Custom Diesel Injector Cleaner" on your web 
site. 
Upholstery expense seems excessive for an 18 footer, how much of that is the
convertible top? I'd be tempted to scrub and vinyl paint as much of the
upholstery as I could salvage.



Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth
Yeah, I knew it was one of you wizards  Thanks Joe.  Guess maybe I 
shoulda bought the alignment tool.


At 10:27 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:

I may have posted a relevant link to Spud's website, Loren, but I've
not yet gone there myself.  Try this:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/

-joe

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain

On 6/3/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

one of the "springs" MB sent
me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper!  Part# looked right, and the
description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch
dia in the bag.


I've never known MB's warehouse people to put the wrong thing in the
bag (yet), but other mail-order parts places certainly have.  Once I
ordered a window switch from Performance Products (before I learned
about Rusty) and got a Porsche seat-heater switch.

Alex Chamberlain



[MBZ] Carfax request

2007-06-04 Thread Donald Snook
If anyone unlimited access to car fax, could run these two vins: 

 

WDBCA25DXLA519684

 

WDBEA92E8SF308810

 

The first one is my car. I thought I should have a full car fax for any
potential buyer. 

 

The second one is a 1995 Wagon I am looking at. 

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344

 



[MBZ] OT: Chicken Boat

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Cathey

I must be crazy:  http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/boat.html

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Joe Knight

I may have posted a relevant link to Spud's website, Loren, but I've
not yet gone there myself.  Try this:
http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/

-joe



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth

that's right, it was Dave, not Joe that did the writeup on the old mbz list

At 09:57 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:

Dave M. has a write-up about DIY 124 sunroof repair on Rusty's forum.
http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=656
http://www.124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/

I desperately need to open mine up and at least R&R the NFG cable.

Loren, if you have the time, could you post a list of part #s and prices for
all the items required to do a proper service?

TIA


Casey
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Re: [MBZ] High mile car article.

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth
there is not much I can't do, but stuff I won't do or have not had 
time to mess with.  For those things I use Import Auto Repair in 
Ames.  For body work, Shaeffer's Auto Body in Ames.


At 08:51 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:

>--

>From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [MBZ] [  SPAM  ] High mile car article.

>
>Well, my SDL made it into the article, but they didn't even put a
>picture of it in.  No other MB content, unfortunately.   I told the
>reporter that Diesels and MB Diesels in particular were preferred by
>high mileage drivers.  Oh well, ...  It is the NY times  And
>for them writing about IA, AL and KY means the unwashed hicks
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/automobiles/03MILES.html?ex=11815 
34400&en=beb466a72983f185&ei=5070&emc=eta1

>>Loren Faeth
>Proud to be a "hick" who will never set foot in NYC

>--
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to get worked on in your area?

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Zeitgeist

Dave M. has a write-up about DIY 124 sunroof repair on Rusty's forum.
http://www.buymbparts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=656
http://www.124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/

I desperately need to open mine up and at least R&R the NFG cable.

Loren, if you have the time, could you post a list of part #s and prices for
all the items required to do a proper service?

TIA


Casey
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'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar


[MBZ] columbus CL 300CE

2007-06-04 Thread Sunil Hari

http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/344413890.html

No affiliation, association, etc.

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513-205-7474


[MBZ] Heya

2007-06-04 Thread John W. Reames III
I don't rmemeber what the policy is on "classifieds", but I have a need 
for the "U" shaped tube that goes between the air cleaner and the turbo on 
a 617a engine (this one lives in a 1985 123.133)  I believe that mine had 
the clamp severly overtorques prior to my ownership, as the air cleaner 
end has its size slightly reduced; it does not go on very well at all, and 
when it does, the donut (even a brand new one!) is pushed down inside the 
tube.


How much would one of these things be worth?

Thanks
-j.

1985 300d "Gerta"
1999 E300Dt "Hans"
1999 E300Dt "Frantz"




Re: [MBZ] Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Peter Merle
Delivery Date 11 April 1988 on EPC
Peter

-Original Message-
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Sent: 04 June 2007 04:34 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Carfax


Does anybody have a account they could check a VIN for me please!
1988 420selWDBCA35D3JA407506

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Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth

Herr Doktor,

I'm honored that you think I am more than a mere mortal, but, I am a 
mere mortal.  I've forgotten so much stuff about MBs because many 
things I do only once or twice.  I make lots of mistakes and I ask 
lots of dumb questions about these newer cars, because I am still 
learning about 124s and 126s  and even some 123 stuff.  (yes these 
are all newer models to me)  And they break less often than the 110/111s


At 08:28 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote:

An advanced DIYer (you and Joe ARE that) can do it and often make only a
few or no mistakes the first time. Mere mortals are MUCH more likely to
turn a small problem into a BIG problem.

Marshall

Loren Faeth wrote:
> Herr Doktor Booth!
>
> Now you tell me ordinary mortals can't work on a tilt sunroof!  I
> just took a 124 roof all apart, replaced the cable and explored how
> it all was put together.  While I was in there, I touched up the
> paint around the hole in the roof where it looked like someone had
> pried the roof up with screwdrivers.  I had a little trouble getting
> the headliner panel back in place on the lift sliders, but the second
> try, I got both sides.  It took a couple of tries loosening and
> tightening the nuts that hold the lid to the tilt-frame to get it to
> open and close right.  When it is put down from the tilt-up position,
> it goes past level if you hold the switch down. I have just learned
> to hold the switch down until it is closed, but no more.  I tried to
> figger out an adjustment for that, but never did.  At least I can
> close it now during a rainstorm!   The forward-back operations of the
> switch work fine.  While I had the headliner panel out, I cleaned it
> also, because it had a lot of fingerprints on it.
>
> I guess I am lucky i never tried to read the sunroof stuff on the
> CD.  Since I never worked on a sunroof before, I was not too sure
> about tackling this one.  I guess I'd call myself an advanced DIY,
> since I have done a few engines and a trans and most other stuff on
> older cars.  I did not quite figure out how the lift slides were
> removed and replaced if they were broken.  I tried to figure out how
> to change the springs on the wind deflector, but gave up after a
> while, because I was running out of time.
>
> Joe, have you ever done that job?  I got the trim strip off the
> front, but didn't figure out the secret of getting the wind deflector
> out enough to change the springs.  and one of the "springs" MB sent
> me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper!  Part# looked right, and the
> description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch
> dia in the bag.  I got it apart enough to determine the spring they
> sent, was ok anyway.
>
> Someone on the list wrote about changing the slides with the beefier
> new ones.  Was it Joe Knight?  So, I figured I could probably figure
> out how to replace the cable, and clean and lube the sunroof at least.
>
> Loren
> Lotsa Benzes
>
>
> At 10:13 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote:
>> The old sliding roof was well within the ability of the average DIYer to
>> maintain. It takes a VERY advanced DIYer or very knowledgeable pro to
>> maintain the tilt roof. Most people will NOT succeed by reading the
>> manual and tacking most problems with the tilt roof.
>>
>> Marshall

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[MBZ] High mile car article.

2007-06-04 Thread Roger Conlon

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From: Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] [  SPAM  ] High mile car article.




Well, my SDL made it into the article, but they didn't even put a
picture of it in.  No other MB content, unfortunately.   I told the
reporter that Diesels and MB Diesels in particular were preferred by
high mileage drivers.  Oh well, ...  It is the NY times  And
for them writing about IA, AL and KY means the unwashed hicks

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/automobiles/03MILES.html?ex=1181534400&en=beb466a72983f185&ei=5070&emc=eta1

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Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Marshall Booth
An advanced DIYer (you and Joe ARE that) can do it and often make only a 
few or no mistakes the first time. Mere mortals are MUCH more likely to 
turn a small problem into a BIG problem.


Marshall

Loren Faeth wrote:

Herr Doktor Booth!

Now you tell me ordinary mortals can't work on a tilt sunroof!  I 
just took a 124 roof all apart, replaced the cable and explored how 
it all was put together.  While I was in there, I touched up the 
paint around the hole in the roof where it looked like someone had 
pried the roof up with screwdrivers.  I had a little trouble getting 
the headliner panel back in place on the lift sliders, but the second 
try, I got both sides.  It took a couple of tries loosening and 
tightening the nuts that hold the lid to the tilt-frame to get it to 
open and close right.  When it is put down from the tilt-up position, 
it goes past level if you hold the switch down. I have just learned 
to hold the switch down until it is closed, but no more.  I tried to 
figger out an adjustment for that, but never did.  At least I can 
close it now during a rainstorm!   The forward-back operations of the 
switch work fine.  While I had the headliner panel out, I cleaned it 
also, because it had a lot of fingerprints on it.


I guess I am lucky i never tried to read the sunroof stuff on the 
CD.  Since I never worked on a sunroof before, I was not too sure 
about tackling this one.  I guess I'd call myself an advanced DIY, 
since I have done a few engines and a trans and most other stuff on 
older cars.  I did not quite figure out how the lift slides were 
removed and replaced if they were broken.  I tried to figure out how 
to change the springs on the wind deflector, but gave up after a 
while, because I was running out of time.


Joe, have you ever done that job?  I got the trim strip off the 
front, but didn't figure out the secret of getting the wind deflector 
out enough to change the springs.  and one of the "springs" MB sent 
me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper!  Part# looked right, and the 
description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch 
dia in the bag.  I got it apart enough to determine the spring they 
sent, was ok anyway.


Someone on the list wrote about changing the slides with the beefier 
new ones.  Was it Joe Knight?  So, I figured I could probably figure 
out how to replace the cable, and clean and lube the sunroof at least.


Loren
Lotsa Benzes


At 10:13 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote:

The old sliding roof was well within the ability of the average DIYer to
maintain. It takes a VERY advanced DIYer or very knowledgeable pro to
maintain the tilt roof. Most people will NOT succeed by reading the
manual and tacking most problems with the tilt roof.

Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
Mike,

Their eBay store format leaves much to be desired. They need a shopping cart
& the freight calculator does a terrible job of combining freight. The web
hosting package that eBay has been pushing, the one where you have your own
name, shopping cart, etc., etc. is way over priced at $100's / per store
front. You can find companies that will host a Miva Merchant site for less
than $60.00 / month. Miva Merchant is the solution I use & you can find my
site here:

http://www.kegkits.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=W

Even with my complaints, I believe that eBay is the greatest market place in
the world. And even though I have my own web store, I plan to continue
listing my products on eBay.
 
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mike Canfield
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 7:52 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

Agreed there Tom..Cars, and motor vehicles of any sort are more of a

pain in the tush to deal with for the seller than they are worth on E-bay. 
Little stuff, parts and the like, while not  quite ridiculously easy, is a 
breeze in comparison.
  How do you like the store format?  I am ashamed to say I am not even close

to organized enough to maintain a large inventory of things so I stick with 
the auction format.  List it as I get it and go from there.

Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax


> How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not
> been turds?
>
> In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are
> turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different?
>
> Also, I have a 1959 220S for sale locally & I refuse to list it on eBay.
> Why? Because I'm a eBay reseller 
> (http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales)
> and I don't want to deal with the 100's of questions that the listing will
> generate.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:38 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax
>
> That's logical, but:
>
> I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages 
> to
> keep things relatively honest.
>
> I have wanted to ask this list this question, but I think the list may be
> getting burnt out on ebay talk for a while. Anyway:
> The feedback system: Can any registered user provide feedback on a sale, 
> no
> matter how new the feedback providing user is? If so, feedback is a 
> fearful
> thing indeed, and this is as it should be (save for abuse). If every ebay
> user is allowed to provide feedback and all feedback is taken equally
> seriously, then the seller is compelled to provide good products and
> services for fear of a tarnished reputation.
>
> The only scenario I can think of that would circumvent the power of 
> negative
> feedback is that of a seller constantly re-registering under a new 
> identity.
> Though this would be flawed in that if this was done, feedback would start
> at zero again for the "new" seller.
>
> So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, 
> then
> I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am
> considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase.
>
> Brian
>
> Mitch wrote:
>
> There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay.
> 1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles
> away.
> 2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it.
>
> Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into?
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Canfield
Agreed there Tom..Cars, and motor vehicles of any sort are more of a 
pain in the tush to deal with for the seller than they are worth on E-bay. 
Little stuff, parts and the like, while not  quite ridiculously easy, is a 
breeze in comparison.
 How do you like the store format?  I am ashamed to say I am not even close 
to organized enough to maintain a large inventory of things so I stick with 
the auction format.  List it as I get it and go from there.


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax



How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not
been turds?

In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are
turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different?

Also, I have a 1959 220S for sale locally & I refuse to list it on eBay.
Why? Because I'm a eBay reseller 
(http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales)

and I don't want to deal with the 100's of questions that the listing will
generate.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

That's logical, but:

I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages 
to

keep things relatively honest.

I have wanted to ask this list this question, but I think the list may be
getting burnt out on ebay talk for a while. Anyway:
The feedback system: Can any registered user provide feedback on a sale, 
no
matter how new the feedback providing user is? If so, feedback is a 
fearful

thing indeed, and this is as it should be (save for abuse). If every ebay
user is allowed to provide feedback and all feedback is taken equally
seriously, then the seller is compelled to provide good products and
services for fear of a tarnished reputation.

The only scenario I can think of that would circumvent the power of 
negative
feedback is that of a seller constantly re-registering under a new 
identity.

Though this would be flawed in that if this was done, feedback would start
at zero again for the "new" seller.

So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, 
then

I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am
considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase.

Brian

Mitch wrote:

There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay.
1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles
away.
2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it.

Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] keyless entry

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Cathey

Now that I have all four door locks working I want to do that with my
'81 300SD.  What unit did you use?  Any tips?


For anything earlier than mid-cycle 126's pretty much any unit
will work because you're putting a standard type of electric
lock driver in the one door.  For the newer design where you
can unlock everything from any door you can get away with a
considerably easier and less expensive installation, but the
choice of unit becomes more important.  (You need the 2.5 second
lock output.)  There are no mechanical components required.

For obvious reasons I look for the units where you can run more
than one car from the same fob.  I've used the Audiovox APS-45 and
APS-25CH units myself.  They can run three cars.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread OK Don

And now it won't boot 

On 6/4/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I didnt buy it, but thats how much it cost new a couple of years ago.



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] High mile car article.

2007-06-04 Thread OK Don

Congratulations, Loren. Mine falls into the same catagory as Tom's -
but I'm working to catch up!

On 6/3/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Makes my 300SDL a youngster with only 300,000 miles on the clock.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave


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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Tom Hargrave wrote:
> 
> How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not
> been turds?
> 
> In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are
> turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different?

Good point. Ron Dwelle looked at a local 190D a couple years ago. Can't
remember if it was 5sp or turbo, but it had one of those uncommon features. 
IIRC, the sellers were firm at 5k, Ron offered them 3k, I figured it would
be worth 3k AFTER everything was fixed. Body, interior, drivetrain were
good, everything that didn't make the car unuseable was ignored when it
broke (A/C, climate control, cruise control, struts...). Definitely a turd
by $5,000 car standards. I found it in my local paper, about 30 miles from
me, 60 miles from Ron. The difference is that Ron could invest an afternoon
in checking it out before obligating himself. When the car is a five hour
drive (or worse) away, it's easy to look at jpegs and overbid. 

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] Bondo Leeryiness

2007-06-04 Thread Dan Weeks
I agree with Tom that a repair, if done right, is nothing to be  
concerned about. I bought my 300SD from a seller who disclosed that  
the car had been in a minor accident and repaired before he owned it.  
The repair was extremely well done. The only reason I even know it  
has been repaired, other than the disclosure, is that the body shop  
repainted the bumpers, mirrors, and bodyside moldings at the same  
time, and looking very carefully, I can see some stone chips on the  
original finish underneath. This explains why my 25 year old, 291k  
mile  car looks virtually new--much better than it would have without  
this mid-life refreshening. I think they also completely buffed out  
the paint on the whole car when they blended in the old repair. It's  
truly stunning. Everything fits as original, no repair-caused rust or  
squeaks.


Dan



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
How many 10 year old or older local Mercedes have you looked at have not
been turds?

In my opinion, 90% of all vehicles over 10 years old that are for sale are
turds, so why would what's being sold on eBay be any different?

Also, I have a 1959 220S for sale locally & I refuse to list it on eBay.
Why? Because I'm a eBay reseller (http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales)
and I don't want to deal with the 100's of questions that the listing will
generate.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

That's logical, but:

I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages to
keep things relatively honest.

I have wanted to ask this list this question, but I think the list may be
getting burnt out on ebay talk for a while. Anyway:
The feedback system: Can any registered user provide feedback on a sale, no
matter how new the feedback providing user is? If so, feedback is a fearful
thing indeed, and this is as it should be (save for abuse). If every ebay
user is allowed to provide feedback and all feedback is taken equally
seriously, then the seller is compelled to provide good products and
services for fear of a tarnished reputation.

The only scenario I can think of that would circumvent the power of negative
feedback is that of a seller constantly re-registering under a new identity.
Though this would be flawed in that if this was done, feedback would start
at zero again for the "new" seller.

So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, then
I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am
considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase.

Brian

Mitch wrote:

There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay.
1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles
away.
2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it.

Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I didnt buy it, but thats how much it cost new a couple of years ago.

Loren Faeth wrote:
a $4500 toshiba is like a $100,000 chevrolet.  no way is it worth 
that much  You must have been on crack!`


For a grand, the Macbook makes a very speedy Winders laptop.  And 
they are light and very portable.  Besides that you can dual boot 
into OSX.  Last year when they were new, they were as fast or faster 
than any other Windows laptop.  If you want to spend $2500, the 
Macbook pro also does all the above.  The only laptop I am aware of 
that might be worth that kind of jack is a toughbook for a military contract.


At 11:23 PM 6/3/2007, you wrote:

Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of my
other laptop and was able to get it to work

Luther wrote:

I'll give you $50 for it


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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I also have that one.

Luther wrote:
HA, remember, computers loose their value FASTER than automobiles.  Try 
$2,000. 
I thought it was that POS Sony you have... 



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Re: [MBZ] Why are posts marked spam?

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Read messages marked ADMIN, this was posted yesterday

Loren Faeth wrote:

Oh Listmeister?  Is there a reason?  Playing with spamassasin, perhaps?

I was in the home of the REAL SPAM today!  The Hawaiian 
delicacy/staple.   Loko Moko please?

Austin, MN



Loren Faeth  



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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Zoltan Finks wrote:
> 
> I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages to
> keep things relatively honest.
>
> So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, then
> I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am
> considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase.

I bought two mbz that I found on eBay. I feel both sellers were honest, but
in both cases, the car looked better in pics than in person, and in a few 
minutes,
I discovered flaws that would have made me lower my price if I hadn't already 
stuck
my neck out. In both cases, the car was privately owned, and the seller had 
attempted
to sell locally but failed. 

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread BillR
Brian - The only time I have been scammed on eBay was because I was in a
hurry and did not actually read the feedback on a low feedback seller [about
10 of them, 100% positive, all saying about the same thing in about the same
style; this was several years ago].  The seller must have had another
account or a friend put in all positive feedback, and as soon as my payment
cleared they closed that account on eBay and Papal.  I still don't read much
feedback on a multi-hundred feedback seller with a good rating, but I do on
anyone with a low number of feedbacks or a less than 99% rating.
BillR 

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On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 4:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

That's logical, but:

I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages to
keep things relatively honest.

I have wanted to ask this list this question, but I think the list may be
getting burnt out on ebay talk for a while. Anyway:
The feedback system: Can any registered user provide feedback on a sale, no
matter how new the feedback providing user is? If so, feedback is a fearful
thing indeed, and this is as it should be (save for abuse). If every ebay
user is allowed to provide feedback and all feedback is taken equally
seriously, then the seller is compelled to provide good products and
services for fear of a tarnished reputation.

The only scenario I can think of that would circumvent the power of negative
feedback is that of a seller constantly re-registering under a new identity.
Though this would be flawed in that if this was done, feedback would start
at zero again for the "new" seller.

So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, then
I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am
considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase.

Brian

Mitch wrote:

There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay.
1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles
away.
2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it.

Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

That's logical, but:

I have been clinging to the hope that the feedback system in ebay manages to
keep things relatively honest.

I have wanted to ask this list this question, but I think the list may be
getting burnt out on ebay talk for a while. Anyway:
The feedback system: Can any registered user provide feedback on a sale, no
matter how new the feedback providing user is? If so, feedback is a fearful
thing indeed, and this is as it should be (save for abuse). If every ebay
user is allowed to provide feedback and all feedback is taken equally
seriously, then the seller is compelled to provide good products and
services for fear of a tarnished reputation.

The only scenario I can think of that would circumvent the power of negative
feedback is that of a seller constantly re-registering under a new identity.
Though this would be flawed in that if this was done, feedback would start
at zero again for the "new" seller.

So for a high percentage of vehicles that are sold on ebay to be turds, then
I wonder how the system works? I am asking honestly, because I am
considering ebay as a source for vehicle purchase.

Brian

Mitch wrote:

There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay.
1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles
away.
2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it.

Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] keyless entry

2007-06-04 Thread BillR
Andy - Now that I have all four door locks working I want to do that with my

'81 300SD.  What unit did you use?  Any tips?

Thanks - BillR

Jacksonville FL

1981 300SD  290k miles

 

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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another 190D Have Questions Before Buy

 

I added keyless entry to an 83 300SD.  I put a solenoid in the door to raise

and lower the driver's side lock as if someone in the car were doing it.

This then contacts the switch in the door (in the same manner as if someone

unlocked the doors) and the trunk pump kicks on and does the other doors,

trunk, tank.

 

Andy

 



Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley


Zoltan Finks wrote:
> 
> Good point. The bondo that showed up on this (it turns out) nasty car was
> cracking. And the bent rear link along with the munched wheel told me it
> went for at least one wild ride. Crooked seller who gets Benzes and spiffys
> them up and sells them. There seem to be a few of these operations out in
> CA.

There are two reasons to sell a car on fleabay.
1. It's so special that buyers will flock to it from thousands of miles away.
2. Nobody who sees it firsthand will buy it. 

Guess which category 90% of the cars fall into?

Mitch.



Re: [MBZ] Why are posts marked spam?

2007-06-04 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5627694446211716271

---Robert

Loren Faeth wrote:

Oh Listmeister?  Is there a reason?  Playing with spamassasin, perhaps?

I was in the home of the REAL SPAM today!  The Hawaiian 
delicacy/staple.   Loko Moko please?

Austin, MN



Loren Faeth  



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Re: [MBZ] reliability

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Cathey
>

<>


I know what you meant, even though you got it backwards.


Backwards?  Moi?  To paraphrase, "If I avoided buying unbreakable 
things"

I would be buying breakable things.  :-)

-- Jim




[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: high mileage cars

2007-06-04 Thread RELNGSON
So many wonderful "tips."

I got one. Try not to run into solid objects so as to avoid wrinkling the 
fenders.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] reliability

2007-06-04 Thread RELNGSON
> < exactly would you have?>>
> 
> <>
> 
I know what you meant, even though you got it backwards.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Luther
And for $4500, it better have a 3 year warranty, not this pidly 1 year feces. 
--

Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head
'83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD!
'82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD!
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine
Quoting Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


a $4500 toshiba is like a $100,000 chevrolet.  no way is it worth
that much  You must have been on crack!`

For a grand, the Macbook makes a very speedy Winders laptop.  And
they are light and very portable.  Besides that you can dual boot
into OSX.  Last year when they were new, they were as fast or faster
than any other Windows laptop.  If you want to spend $2500, the
Macbook pro also does all the above.  The only laptop I am aware of
that might be worth that kind of jack is a toughbook for a military
contract. 


At 11:23 PM 6/3/2007, you wrote:

Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of

my

other laptop and was able to get it to work

Luther wrote:
> I'll give you $50 for it
>








Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth
a $4500 toshiba is like a $100,000 chevrolet.  no way is it worth 
that much  You must have been on crack!`


For a grand, the Macbook makes a very speedy Winders laptop.  And 
they are light and very portable.  Besides that you can dual boot 
into OSX.  Last year when they were new, they were as fast or faster 
than any other Windows laptop.  If you want to spend $2500, the 
Macbook pro also does all the above.  The only laptop I am aware of 
that might be worth that kind of jack is a toughbook for a military contract.


At 11:23 PM 6/3/2007, you wrote:

Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of my
other laptop and was able to get it to work

Luther wrote:
> I'll give you $50 for it
>

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  92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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[MBZ] tilt sunroof repair

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth

Herr Doktor Booth!

Now you tell me ordinary mortals can't work on a tilt sunroof!  I 
just took a 124 roof all apart, replaced the cable and explored how 
it all was put together.  While I was in there, I touched up the 
paint around the hole in the roof where it looked like someone had 
pried the roof up with screwdrivers.  I had a little trouble getting 
the headliner panel back in place on the lift sliders, but the second 
try, I got both sides.  It took a couple of tries loosening and 
tightening the nuts that hold the lid to the tilt-frame to get it to 
open and close right.  When it is put down from the tilt-up position, 
it goes past level if you hold the switch down. I have just learned 
to hold the switch down until it is closed, but no more.  I tried to 
figger out an adjustment for that, but never did.  At least I can 
close it now during a rainstorm!   The forward-back operations of the 
switch work fine.  While I had the headliner panel out, I cleaned it 
also, because it had a lot of fingerprints on it.


I guess I am lucky i never tried to read the sunroof stuff on the 
CD.  Since I never worked on a sunroof before, I was not too sure 
about tackling this one.  I guess I'd call myself an advanced DIY, 
since I have done a few engines and a trans and most other stuff on 
older cars.  I did not quite figure out how the lift slides were 
removed and replaced if they were broken.  I tried to figure out how 
to change the springs on the wind deflector, but gave up after a 
while, because I was running out of time.


Joe, have you ever done that job?  I got the trim strip off the 
front, but didn't figure out the secret of getting the wind deflector 
out enough to change the springs.  and one of the "springs" MB sent 
me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper!  Part# looked right, and the 
description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch 
dia in the bag.  I got it apart enough to determine the spring they 
sent, was ok anyway.


Someone on the list wrote about changing the slides with the beefier 
new ones.  Was it Joe Knight?  So, I figured I could probably figure 
out how to replace the cable, and clean and lube the sunroof at least.


Loren
Lotsa Benzes


At 10:13 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote:

The old sliding roof was well within the ability of the average DIYer to
maintain. It takes a VERY advanced DIYer or very knowledgeable pro to
maintain the tilt roof. Most people will NOT succeed by reading the
manual and tacking most problems with the tilt roof.

Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Loren Faeth 





Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:58:12 -0500, Kaleb wrote:

> The bios has option for external devices, I assume that will work.  Hope 
> so, just bought an external drive and I am cheap, so I dont like to 
> spend money if I dont have to.

Cheaper than an external drive is an adapter to turn any IDE
drive into a USB drive.

http://www.mcminone.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=MCMProducts&category%5Fname=3830309&product%5Fid=83%2D11137

or if that one is too long, here is the same link "tinyed"
http://tinyurl.com/35xrs3

--   Philip



Re: [MBZ] Why are posts marked spam?

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

Loren, I just posted an allusion to the home of SPAM a little while ago. Are
you still in the Austin area? You ought to stop by my house if you are - we
are just around an hour away from there. Let me know.

Brian


On 6/3/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oh Listmeister?  Is there a reason?  Playing with spamassasin, perhaps?

I was in the home of the REAL SPAM today!  The Hawaiian
delicacy/staple.   Loko Moko please?
Austin, MN



Loren Faeth


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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Luther
HA, remember, computers loose their value FASTER than automobiles.  Try 
$2,000. 
I thought it was that POS Sony you have... 


--
Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head
'83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD!
'82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD!
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine


Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of my
other laptop and was able to get it to work

Luther wrote:

I'll give you $50 for it



--





Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth
Depends on the BIOS.  Give it a try.  go into the bios and see what's 
on the boot order list.  Dells have an F-key you can press on 
startup, f-12 I think, that will take you to a boot options 
menu.  Have your usb drive plugged in before the boot.


At 11:22 PM 6/3/2007, you wrote:

Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Got a laptop that will not boot, needs OS reinstalled.  The internal
> removable CD/DVD drive will not read a disk.  Can I hook an external cd
> drive up via USB and it will boot from that to reinstall?
>


Loren Faeth 





[MBZ] Why are posts marked spam?

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth

Oh Listmeister?  Is there a reason?  Playing with spamassasin, perhaps?

I was in the home of the REAL SPAM today!  The Hawaiian 
delicacy/staple.   Loko Moko please?

Austin, MN



Loren Faeth  





Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
OK, $55.00?

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of my 
other laptop and was able to get it to work

Luther wrote:
> I'll give you $50 for it
> 

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  92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
Brian,

Cracking bondo is a sure sign that it was applied too thick. Looks like a
quick bondo job instead of a proper panel repair with a bondo finish.

By the way, there are crooked sellers here in Alabama too. I'll look at many
Mercedes before buying one. I looked at & walked away from a E320 today. The
right rear fender just was not right. The gap between the deck lid & the
fender was not even - the fender edge was slightly lower than the deck lid
edge towards the back but the gap between the back door & fender were right.
It's been hit on that side & not properly straightened out.

My 300SDL has been hit at the right rear corner, hard enough to have been
totaled & then rebuilt. I bought the car with a salvaged title but I also
know what was done to the car & I have no problem with the repair. The car
was only totaled because of its value at the time. If it had been a newer
Mercedes, the insurance company would have paid for the repair.

My point is that totaling a car is a insurance company financial decision,
not a safety decision. A newer Mercedes with a residual value of $40,000 can
easily undergo $25,000 or more in repairs without being totaled and that
amount of money represents some pretty serious repair work. But they won't
fix and 80's model 4 door Mercedes with $2,000 worth of damage because the
damage exceeds 70% of the car's book value. A parking lot light pole can do
$2,000 worth of damage to a Mercedes. In other words, you need to consider
the age & value of the car during any repairs listed on a CarFax report. And
just like my 300SDL, you need to look at the work done on a salvaged vehicle
before running away. Some are great deals.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

Good point. The bondo that showed up on this (it turns out) nasty car was
cracking. And the bent rear link along with the munched wheel told me it
went for at least one wild ride. Crooked seller who gets Benzes and spiffys
them up and sells them. There seem to be a few of these operations out in
CA.

Brian


On 6/3/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> Bondo is not necessarily a bad thing, it's a necessary finish coat before
> painting any body work. And that's the key, it should just be a finish
> coat,
> no more than 1/8" thick in the thickest places. Bondo is applied after the
> panel is hammered out to near perfect.
>
> Can you see where the bondo has been applied or is the one doing the
> inspection just pointing it out to you?  A proper repair job should only
> be
> noticeable to someone who's been in the body repair business. Considering
> the fact that this 190 or any Mercedes from the 80's has been on the road
> a
> while (20+ years???), I'd be surprised to not find bondo any at all.
>
> Bondo is evil when used to repair rust damage. The issue is not the bondo,
> which is usually applied way too thick in this case, but the active
> corrosion that will continue to consume the car. Unfortunately, rust
> repair
> will not appear in any Carfax report - it's not the results of an
> accident.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:12 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [  SPAM  ] [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax
>
> Guys, the recent experience with having a 190 inspected pre-purchase left
> me
> surprised and a bit shocked. There was bondo in places, though the picture
> over the internet did not reveal it (I mean you could see it with naked
> eye). On this car, it turned out there was a bent rear link too, etc.
>
> This was the first time I had run into bondo on a Benz, and now I am
> thinking about it as I consider another 190 to buy. I guess I don't know
> what question to ask the list, since there is now answer that could be
> given.
>
> But maybe someone would be willing to run a Carfax on the VIN so we could
> find out if there are any accidents listed?
> It's:
> WDBDB26D5HF335151
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its a $4500 Toshiba, I think not.  I ended up taking the drive out of my 
other laptop and was able to get it to work


Luther wrote:

I'll give you $50 for it



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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] OT, boot from external drive

2007-06-04 Thread Luther

I'll give you $50 for it

--
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'87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head
'83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD!
'82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD!
'85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine


Quoting "Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Got a laptop that will not boot, needs OS reinstalled.  The internal
removable CD/DVD drive will not read a disk.  Can I hook an external cd
drive up via USB and it will boot from that to reinstall?






[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] High mile car article.

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
Makes my 300SDL a youngster with only 300,000 miles on the clock.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [  SPAM  ] [MBZ] [ SPAM ] High mile car article.

Well, my SDL made it into the article, but they didn't even put a 
picture of it in.  No other MB content, unfortunately.   I told the 
reporter that Diesels and MB Diesels in particular were preferred by 
high mileage drivers.  Oh well, ...  It is the NY times  And 
for them writing about IA, AL and KY means the unwashed hicks

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/automobiles/03MILES.html?ex=1181534400&en=
beb466a72983f185&ei=5070&emc=eta1 




Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

Good point. The bondo that showed up on this (it turns out) nasty car was
cracking. And the bent rear link along with the munched wheel told me it
went for at least one wild ride. Crooked seller who gets Benzes and spiffys
them up and sells them. There seem to be a few of these operations out in
CA.

Brian


On 6/3/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Brian,

Bondo is not necessarily a bad thing, it's a necessary finish coat before
painting any body work. And that's the key, it should just be a finish
coat,
no more than 1/8" thick in the thickest places. Bondo is applied after the
panel is hammered out to near perfect.

Can you see where the bondo has been applied or is the one doing the
inspection just pointing it out to you?  A proper repair job should only
be
noticeable to someone who's been in the body repair business. Considering
the fact that this 190 or any Mercedes from the 80's has been on the road
a
while (20+ years???), I'd be surprised to not find bondo any at all.

Bondo is evil when used to repair rust damage. The issue is not the bondo,
which is usually applied way too thick in this case, but the active
corrosion that will continue to consume the car. Unfortunately, rust
repair
will not appear in any Carfax report - it's not the results of an
accident.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:12 PM
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Subject: [  SPAM  ] [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

Guys, the recent experience with having a 190 inspected pre-purchase left
me
surprised and a bit shocked. There was bondo in places, though the picture
over the internet did not reveal it (I mean you could see it with naked
eye). On this car, it turned out there was a bent rear link too, etc.

This was the first time I had run into bondo on a Benz, and now I am
thinking about it as I consider another 190 to buy. I guess I don't know
what question to ask the list, since there is now answer that could be
given.

But maybe someone would be willing to run a Carfax on the VIN so we could
find out if there are any accidents listed?
It's:
WDBDB26D5HF335151

Thanks in advance.
Brian
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
GROSS

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI

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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:00 PM
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Subject: [  SPAM  ] Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay

All this talk about Spam has made me hungry...

Bob R


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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:56 PM
Subject: [  SPAM  ] Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Crack 87 190D on ebay


> you mean you dont like spam?
> 
> Marshall Booth wrote:
>> I ain't sending SPAM!
>> 
>> Marshall
> 
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>  92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
>  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
>  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] High mile car article.

2007-06-04 Thread Loren Faeth
Well, my SDL made it into the article, but they didn't even put a 
picture of it in.  No other MB content, unfortunately.   I told the 
reporter that Diesels and MB Diesels in particular were preferred by 
high mileage drivers.  Oh well, ...  It is the NY times  And 
for them writing about IA, AL and KY means the unwashed hicks


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/automobiles/03MILES.html?ex=1181534400&en=beb466a72983f185&ei=5070&emc=eta1 





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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: Re: '82, huh.

2007-06-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah but did they sell any in 82? It wasn't until late in 82 that they 
introduced the baby Benz.

When you say introduced in 84 do you mean in the US?

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Hendrik Riessen wrote:
82 was the year the 201 was introduced, wether any where sold I don't 
know

but some where made in 82.


The '85 Tech. Data Manual shows 201 production commenced in 1982. It
provided a prototype for the 124. The 201 was not introduced until 1984.

Marshall
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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: Looking for a car

2007-06-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Craig,
I found this on our local Craig's list-no pun intended.

http://providence.craigslist.org/car/343891989.html 
Dwight 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1979 240D-250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles
Wickford, RI-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 12:27 PM
To: mercedes
Subject: [  SPAM  ] [MBZ] Looking for a car

Having bought a rototiller to till our yard, my wife said she had traded a
car of her own for a rototiller. So, I think I'd better start looking for
a car.

My choices would be:

- 1992 300D/2.5
- 1987 300SDL
- 1985 300SD
- 1987 190D
- 195x 180D or 190D ponton

Any suggestion on where to look? Any leads?

Thanks,


Craig
Los Alamos, NM

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: oooo it might break

2007-06-04 Thread Jim Cathey

Well, so what? If you avoided buying things that never went wrong,
what exactly would you have?


A machine that is much more likely to break, of course!

That is one big reason why one might surf the trailing edge,
so to speak.  Let others run the gauntlet, and we learn from
them.

-- Jim




[MBZ] [ SPAM ] RE: [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Tom Hargrave
Brian,

Bondo is not necessarily a bad thing, it's a necessary finish coat before
painting any body work. And that's the key, it should just be a finish coat,
no more than 1/8" thick in the thickest places. Bondo is applied after the
panel is hammered out to near perfect.

Can you see where the bondo has been applied or is the one doing the
inspection just pointing it out to you?  A proper repair job should only be
noticeable to someone who's been in the body repair business. Considering
the fact that this 190 or any Mercedes from the 80's has been on the road a
while (20+ years???), I'd be surprised to not find bondo any at all.

Bondo is evil when used to repair rust damage. The issue is not the bondo,
which is usually applied way too thick in this case, but the active
corrosion that will continue to consume the car. Unfortunately, rust repair
will not appear in any Carfax report - it's not the results of an accident.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [  SPAM  ] [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

Guys, the recent experience with having a 190 inspected pre-purchase left me
surprised and a bit shocked. There was bondo in places, though the picture
over the internet did not reveal it (I mean you could see it with naked
eye). On this car, it turned out there was a bent rear link too, etc.

This was the first time I had run into bondo on a Benz, and now I am
thinking about it as I consider another 190 to buy. I guess I don't know
what question to ask the list, since there is now answer that could be
given.

But maybe someone would be willing to run a Carfax on the VIN so we could
find out if there are any accidents listed?
It's:
WDBDB26D5HF335151

Thanks in advance.
Brian
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[MBZ] Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Roger Conlon

Does anybody have a account they could check a VIN for me please!
1988 420selWDBCA35D3JA407506

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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Bondo leariness and Carfax

2007-06-04 Thread Zoltan Finks

Guys, the recent experience with having a 190 inspected pre-purchase left me
surprised and a bit shocked. There was bondo in places, though the picture
over the internet did not reveal it (I mean you could see it with naked
eye). On this car, it turned out there was a bent rear link too, etc.

This was the first time I had run into bondo on a Benz, and now I am
thinking about it as I consider another 190 to buy. I guess I don't know
what question to ask the list, since there is now answer that could be
given.

But maybe someone would be willing to run a Carfax on the VIN so we could
find out if there are any accidents listed?
It's:
WDBDB26D5HF335151

Thanks in advance.
Brian


Re: [MBZ] Another 190D Have Questions Before Buy

2007-06-04 Thread Andrew Cunningham

I added keyless entry to an 83 300SD.  I put a solenoid in the door to raise
and lower the driver's side lock as if someone in the car were doing it.
This then contacts the switch in the door (in the same manner as if someone
unlocked the doors) and the trunk pump kicks on and does the other doors,
trunk, tank.

Andy


On 5/28/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> The guy claims to have installed a keyless entry (remote) system. I
> guess I
> didn't know that these cars (1987) had electric locks. If not
> electric, how
> could a keyless entry be used?

It's easy.  Everything since the 123 has had electric pumps on the
vacuum/pressure locks.  Installation of keyless on them is nearly
trivial.  See:  http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/JSL2keyless.html
(For a 201 it'd all be under the back seat, but otherwise the same.)

> The car reportedly has almost 250k mi. on it. Am I stupid for looking
> into
> this car with this many miles?

No.  Just check it out.  Chain and flex disk replacement are _good_
signs.

Condition, condition, condition.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: 201 CIS

2007-06-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I wouldn't call it an advantage, trying to keep a CIS motor in tune without 
a CO meter is a major pain in the bottom.
The CIS/E is better in every way apart from being more complex but it is 
this complexity that makes it more efficient.


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<>


An advantage since the idle mixture could be adjusted.

RLE







Re: [MBZ] Crack 87 190D on ebay

2007-06-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

spam and pineapple, MMM

Bob Rentfro wrote:

All this talk about Spam has made me hungry...

Bob R



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 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com