Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
By the way, thanks for sharing the details of your experience. I think I do remember hearing at least some mention of this on the list at some point. My guy is not the same guy unless one or both of them are lying about their names. That is awesome how you went after your scumbag. If my guy turns out to be anywhere near as blatently deceitful, I will seek your advice on how to take him out too. Brian On 6/8/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, Sorry for the delay, kid is being graduated this week and mail has piled up, so I am way behind in getting to mail. Nigerian scam artist who did about everything wrong according to the law in the jurisdiction where the car was sold. When I went to fetch the car, I had spent three weeks screwing with this monkey because he listed the car with paypal as an option, but then closed the account after I told him I had begun the paypal transaction. Gave him my particulars about arrival and such 48 hours prior to getting to town. Got picked up two hours late and we drove around Texas for another hour, so I was already off schedule for departure for the return. Once at his dirt lot store, the car was nowhere near road ready. He had removed the functional IP and replaced it with a crap unit because there was minor weeping from an internal O-ring. Unit I ended up with was installed as bassackward as possible , it made no power and spewed more smoke than a steam locomotive. Found that out after he added two quarts of oil, had his yard monkeys run around fetching four lug bolts he had borrowed for other cars, removed garbage from the cabin and trunk, pumped up the tires, and filled the radiator. All this after he already had the paypal cash. The driver side seat back was missing. He had it at his house. I was to follow him to get it. Driving there on a 90* morning, I find the AC does not work, I chug along and nearly get killed at intersections, and the tank is near empty. He wanted me to go back to his shop and wait while his monkeys tried to fix the AC. NO WAY, I got out of there as fast as I could. Found a diesel pump and filled the tank. Got on the highway and headed north. Had to add another quart of oil when I stopped to pee. Around OKC, I started to lose power and found out the gallon jugs of ATF in the trunk were not spare but were meant to be in the transmission. All this on a Saturday night and no way to get the car to a dealer and serviced in time to get back on the road. Granted I was a fool for not getting PPI, but I did learn that you only lose a small bit of your ebay rating when you walk away. Walking is really cheap and easy. All you need to do is let eBay and all that it was not at listed. On Jun 8, 2007, at 9:00 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Clay: You there, buddy? You dropped a bomb. Now help me out when you get a chance. Tell me the town that you went to to pick up your car. And tell me the name of the man who signed a car over to you. Brian On 6/7/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RUN AWAY! This sounds like the cretin who sold me the POS SDL on eBay four years ago. He was going to pick me up at the airport too. He missed that and I waited a few hours, called his home #, talked to his retarded wife. She had no idea what I was talking about. The seller claimed to be a MD, but may have been only the night janitor at the hospital. He had a dirt lot, curbstone junk yard of a used car sales spot under some shady trees with Doofus and Dorkmeyer working for him when they were not asleep in the plastic chairs out back. Kaleb ended up with that car when it died a horrid death and I spent thousands on shop labor thousands of miles from home. RUN AWAY!! Take the bad feed back and RUN AWAY just my 0.02 On Jun 6, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Thanks for asking, Alex. We actually wound up winning that ebay auction last night - the CA 87 190D (with so many miles on it, I say cringing). The seller was incommunicado on my questions via ask the seller a question. I chalked this up to sellers being sick to death of quesions. Oh, and his not taking us seriously because we are brand new to ebay. In the photos, it looks to us like the clearcoat is peeling some - he claims ignorance. And we see one dent behind the driver front wheel - he claims ignorance. I will post pics later to get opinions. I talked to him on phone today. I will be flying out to CA to pick it up, then I will be driving it on up to our new home in WA. He says he can meet me at airport, reluctantly, if he is not preforming surgery. Question for list: He has in writing as part of his auction listing that we have 7 days to pick up car and pay him balance. But on phone he says this deadline is so big deal - he just has it since some people take a long time to pick up car. I would love to have a few extra days to get there - and not have to rush to get there by Tuesday, but could this
Re: [MBZ] hood (bonnet) height
Totally innocent comment. The hood is too low to clear the front of a diesel engine but a little sheet metal class work will solve the problem.. Pedestrian protection requirements by the EU will be raising hood heights next year. The W204 C-Class and some new Audis are just two examples. My friend DM's new Audi V-10 S6's hood is nearly flat, front to back. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
Usually a noisy ball joint is making noise because it's shot -- grease won't restore it. How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end? It sounds like the passenger's side lower ball joint on my W126 300sD is really groaning whenever the wheel is turned, that squeaky door hinge sound heard in many horror movies. Kevin now in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
I second the question. The answer will give me something to think about as I cruise down the freeway on my 1500 mi. trip tomorrow or the next day. brian On 6/10/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Usually a noisy ball joint is making noise because it's shot -- grease won't restore it. How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end? It sounds like the passenger's side lower ball joint on my W126 300sD is really groaning whenever the wheel is turned, that squeaky door hinge sound heard in many horror movies. Kevin now in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
We drove an Opel Manta that way for about two years, when it finally let go and dumped the front end on the ground. My wife was not happy. I kept squirting grease in to stop the noise, but it did finally have a catastrophic failure. My 300SDL was squeaking when I turned the wheel after a bit of driving. I was sure it was the lower ball joint, but I replaced the tie rod ends after the jack slipping into the oil pan incident, and the squeaking noise is gone. On 6/10/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Usually a noisy ball joint is making noise because it's shot -- grease won't restore it. How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end? It sounds like the passenger's side lower ball joint on my W126 300sD is really groaning whenever the wheel is turned, that squeaky door hinge sound heard in many horror movies. Kevin now in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers
cooking oriental?... or is that smells like CHICKEN! ;) Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 10:30 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers Biodesel is even better! Today, my tail pipe semlls like cooking Oriental:) On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:04:58 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are directing your hate to just gassers? 'Cause I hate the smell of gasoline, especially raw. And that the fuel system is under high pressure and does tend to want to spray in a giant fountain all over the place if you don't get something seated right. And that it stings when you get it all over yourself. Diesel: the kinder gentler fuel. And it smells good, too! -- Jim -- uther KB5QHUAlma, Ark 87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case 82 300CD (166 kmi) 82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold 85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ ttp://www.okiebenz.com or new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ or used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers
Eh, some days it smells like fries, others Oriental, and way back, it smelled like olives roasting. Depends on the feed stock I for my bioD. Luther On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:18:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cooking oriental?... or is that smells like CHICKEN! ;) Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 10:30 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers Biodesel is even better! Today, my tail pipe semlls like cooking Oriental:) On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:04:58 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are directing your hate to just gassers? 'Cause I hate the smell of gasoline, especially raw. And that the fuel system is under high pressure and does tend to want to spray in a giant fountain all over the place if you don't get something seated right. And that it stings when you get it all over yourself. Diesel: the kinder gentler fuel. And it smells good, too! -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '83 300SD (245 kmi) for sale '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
[MBZ] new toy came home today
After several hours of air leaks in fuel line diagnosis and repair, I finally drove the CHEAP (Kaleb price) F250 6.9 IHC diesel home this afternoon. Needs new tires at $500, 2 rear shocks, fluids changed, and possibly the a/c charged/replaced. I've named it Bio-Beast. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers
.feed stock I have for my BioD On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:59:44 -0500, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eh, some days it smells like fries, others Oriental, and way back, it smelled like olives roasting. Depends on the feed stock I for my bioD. Luther On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:18:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cooking oriental?... or is that smells like CHICKEN! ;) Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 10:30 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers Biodesel is even better! Today, my tail pipe semlls like cooking Oriental:) On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:04:58 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are directing your hate to just gassers? 'Cause I hate the smell of gasoline, especially raw. And that the fuel system is under high pressure and does tend to want to spray in a giant fountain all over the place if you don't get something seated right. And that it stings when you get it all over yourself. Diesel: the kinder gentler fuel. And it smells good, too! -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
[MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
Anybody know how these stack up against same era diesel 123s and 126s? I have located one that needs transmission work but all else looks reasonably presentable. might be a nice little project. Eric 85 300CD 112K It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
[MBZ] SDL for Snook
Donald - this looks like a car you'd be interested in --- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120129379951fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us or http://tinyurl.com/339jgw -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
This model was brought up several months ago. Don't remember if it was by me or not, but I do remember that my wife and I were looking at them on the internet and agreed that they are attractive autos. The prevailing wind on the forum was that they are more difficult and expensive to maintain than MB. I'm not speaking from any knowledge, however - just what I remember from the forum discussion. Hopefully someone else will chime in. They are cute cars though. Brian 83 240D 87 190D (in a week) On 6/10/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know how these stack up against same era diesel 123s and 126s? I have located one that needs transmission work but all else looks reasonably presentable. might be a nice little project. Eric 85 300CD 112K It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] need blower unit for 450sl
Dave - You might give Nick a call at AND automotive. I have bought a number of parts from him for my SL. His business is parting out 107s. He was making noises last time I talked to him about quitting but he may still be a very good resource. I'll bet he has a selection of 107 blowers to choose from. BTW, now that you have the blower spinning, try lubing it with ATF. Barry 310-830-0604 Or 310-739-5055 FAX 310-830-1940 425 N Avalon Blvd. Wilmington, CA 90744 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of The Wakin's Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] need blower unit for 450sl Well, I have been fixing things on the new to me 1980 450sl. The blower wasn't working at all, and I pulled it out today. It was seized tight, so I put some PB Plaster on it and got it freed up, but it doesn't spin very easy and when I tried it, it wouldn't work. Is there a way to revive these unit, or does anyone have a used one they want to part with (maybe Kaleb)? Thanks Dave W
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions
Screw stabil, its crap. Get some SeaFoam gas additive, that stuff is outstanding. If the carb works at all alot of times Seafoam can clean it out. The alternator on my CB900f is iffy sometimes too. In the rain it charges not at all... At some point it'll take a serious dump and I'll send the whole engine out for rebuild to somebody who specializes in CB electrics. -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 14:18:38 -0500 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Around here a bike under 750cc is considered a starter bike to ride for a year until you graduate to a real bike. Thats crazy though. The 454 is plenty of bike to haul my 230# butt around. In 1980 I purchased a brand new Honda CB650. I still have it. I wanted a starter bike with plenty of power and one I wouldn't soon outgrow. I looked at Suzuki, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Honda. I have A 34 inch inseam and the Honda was the most comfortable. Although I now ride a HD Geezer-Glide, the Honda is still an enjoyable motorcycle. The only serious problems I have had are the carbs gumming up (shoulda used Stabil) and the alternator (Hondas of this era are infamous for that). Rick Knoble '07 HD Flhtcu '83 Honda GL1100a Aspencade '80 HD Flh '80 Honda CB650 '78 Yamaha Yz125 '68 HD Xlch - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 02:44:24 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HxZsk-00023W-VI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:44:24 + Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.33] helo=cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 02:43:50 + Received: from homekuj9d0l74k ([24.31.117.113]) by cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:45:42 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:37:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 02:43:50 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:44:25 - Clay, you weasel yourself into my heart. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions Dan, what sort of riding do you want to do? I find this to be the best determinant of what bike I get. Doing dirt and trails, get one of those. Go fast rice riding is good for a crotch rocket, but not good for more than an hour, or you get really sore fast. Touring wants another bike. Just puttering around town will be fine for most bikes of any size. I tent to like the Beemers. They are built to last, hold value better than a Benz and have not had quality issues. I really enjoyed working on mine and could take it for long or short rides in town or highway. I had a little R65 from 1981 with bikini fairing (k75s shield) and full saddle bags so I could do the touring without getting beat up. Corbin saddle for the rear to survive days on the road. The bike has a 5 gallon tank to keep you on the road for 300 miles before reserve. Like our Benz, you do need to keep on top of the scheduled maintenance. Better to figure out how yourself, since shop time is expensive. There is a riders association with magazine and lots and lots of rallies.
Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions
I'm the poster boy for wrong first bike, an '82 CB900f is always saying I'm gonna kill you every second of every ride. Its not that the bike is scary but theres so much power available that you could easily twist that throttle to oblivion. But with the 454 its just cute and little and you don't take it seriously, until you do something stupid and it bites you. I've had some VERY close calls on the 454. I'm MUCH more careful on my CB because its always reminding me that it wants to kill me. You know where you stand with a big bike, like bikes are like dogs, all happy and wagging their tail until it comes time... Maybe look for an older CB750 or CB900 custom. The f like mine is a cafe racer, all hunched over the tank. The custom is a standard but the 900 or 1000 is a big frame bike, good for larger people. I'm 6', 30 inseam and I can just sit my CB900, if I were any smaller I'd be too short. The Virago is also a nice bike, slingback cruiser. They are known for some charging issues but they're also easy to work on and more reliable than the status symbol bikes. -Curt Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 13:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motorcycle Opinions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ego doesn't play into it - my ability to ride and operate it safely come first. If it was a n ego thing, I would be looking for a nice used Harley. Since the wife worked for them when we lived in Wisconsin, we had loaner bikes all the time. Other than a short time in high school, I've never ridden anything smaller than an 883. Before I go out and lay down some serious coin for a (nice) bike of my own, I want to be totally comfortable in my abilities. I would prefer to do that on something that I can ride for a year or two and get rid of or hand down to my youngest. Dan - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 03:04:43 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=alnrmhc14.comcast.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HxaCw-0003I8-TR for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:04:42 + Received: from alnrmhc14.comcast.net ([206.18.177.54] helo=alnrmhc14.comcast.net) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 03:04:42 + Received: from kevlaptop (c-76-27-195-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net[76.27.195.75]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc14) with SMTP id 20070611030614b14003vb5ne; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:06:35 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:06:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 03:04:42 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] new toy came home today X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:04:43 - I had an '85 Ford F350 crew cab 4spd manny with the Int'l/Navistar 6.9 Diesel. It had a hole in one of the sleves due to cavitation, but seemed to run very well anyway although it used oil and blew coolant everywhere under the hood. Luckily, it had already been rebuilt and was under warranty. Once rebuilt ***again***, it never had any problems during the remaining 4 years of ownership. What did this one of yours need to get going? Did it have problems starting and/or staying running? They come up for sale often as fixer uppers. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
I don't really want to take the chance that such a catastrophic failure may happen with the 300SD. Before it's driven anymore, I plan to at least jack it up and check to see where the groaning noise is coming from. It doesn't groan or creak when going over bumps, but I'm sure that it can be heard from miles around while turning a corner or maneuvering into a parking space. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
There are some things that don't add up to a well maintained car: Tow hook cover is missing Something is wrong with the exhaust. It is non-standard, and hangs too low. The latch inside the drivers door appears to be broken and hanging down The parcel net holders behind the seats do not match the seats. Rust in the spare tire well Claims to be a dealer, but has only 14 feed back on ebay States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Looks like he had someone rub armorall all over everything And that is just looking through quickly Could be a 200 or 300k mile car that has had the odo messed with. Careful! At 08:41 PM 6/10/2007, you wrote: Donald - this looks like a car you'd be interested in --- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120129379951fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us or http://tinyurl.com/339jgw -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] do it yourself airport card
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Re: [MBZ] new toy came home today
Exactly, it wouldn't start, and when it did, it wouldn't stay running. Ran new fuel line from the tank to the hard line and replaced 1 injector return line. Runs fine now. What maintenance items would you suggest on it? All fluids and filters will be done Tues. On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:06:14 -0500, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had an '85 Ford F350 crew cab 4spd manny with the Int'l/Navistar 6.9 Diesel. It had a hole in one of the sleves due to cavitation, but seemed to run very well anyway although it used oil and blew coolant everywhere under the hood. Luckily, it had already been rebuilt and was under warranty. Once rebuilt ***again***, it never had any problems during the remaining 4 years of ownership. What did this one of yours need to get going? Did it have problems starting and/or staying running? They come up for sale often as fixer uppers. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
Re: [MBZ] new toy came home today
line. Runs fine now. What maintenance items would you suggest on it? All fluids and filters will be done Tues. Absolutely make sure you use the approved Ford coolant additive that prevents cavitation. It's a cumulative effect, and once it has holed the cylinder sleeve back by #7 or #8... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end? A year or two, maybe. Then the wheel folds under the car. Hopefully you aren't near any oncoming traffic, or ravines. Happened to me, turning around in a barnyard instead of the night before at 75 MPH on the freeway. Lucky. Happened to the neighbors last year. Skidded to a stop on the freeway in a shower of sparks. Nobody hurt. Lucky. Do you feel lucky, punk? :-) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
m in the picture showing the engine bay, the one looking down. Is that the sandy colored ground, is it missing the under engine noise panels, or is that river slit on top of the noise panel? Well that and when they steam cleaned it they managed to knock the white clip off the return fuel line to the hydraulic pressure hose. On Jun 10, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: There are some things that don't add up to a well maintained car: Tow hook cover is missing John 1983 300TDt 382k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 196k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 192k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers
Roasted olives..humm, can't say I've ever smelled a roasted olive before. I do remember living near a mickey D's and the scent of fries was always in the air. Yep, I'll have fries with that.. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 7:59 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers Eh, some days it smells like fries, others Oriental, and way back, it smelled ike olives roasting. Depends on the feed stock I for my bioD. Luther On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:18:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cooking oriental?... or is that smells like CHICKEN! ;) Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 10:30 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] I hate gassers Biodesel is even better! Today, my tail pipe semlls like cooking Oriental:) On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 21:04:58 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are directing your hate to just gassers? 'Cause I hate the smell of gasoline, especially raw. And that the fuel system is under high pressure and does tend to want to spray in a giant fountain all over the place if you don't get something seated right. And that it stings when you get it all over yourself. Diesel: the kinder gentler fuel. And it smells good, too! -- Jim -- uther KB5QHUAlma, Ark 87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case 83 300SD (245 kmi) for sale 82 300CD (166 kmi) 82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold 85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ ttp://www.okiebenz.com or new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ or used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: ttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
Now this leads me to ask: is such a catastrophe always preceeded by telltale noises (the creaking we're talking about)? If not, it seems that many drivers who have not done proper maintenance, or do not know what maintenance that has been done, may be seconds away from this with no warning. Yet you rarely see it. Brian On 6/10/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end? A year or two, maybe. Then the wheel folds under the car. Hopefully you aren't near any oncoming traffic, or ravines. Happened to me, turning around in a barnyard instead of the night before at 75 MPH on the freeway. Lucky. Happened to the neighbors last year. Skidded to a stop on the freeway in a shower of sparks. Nobody hurt. Lucky. Do you feel lucky, punk? :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
Now this leads me to ask: is such a catastrophe always preceded by telltale noises (the creaking we're talking about)? No. It wasn't in my case, nor, apparently, in the neighbors'. I had been told, however, that I had a bad ball joint. Fool that I was, I didn't do anything about it for ages. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
No, it certainly isn't worth taking it to the hairy end. Lucky is one thing, but stupid is quite another. It hasn't been driven for a while, and won't be driven much other than to the shop. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
A few years ago, My dad and I had a '79 Mercury Bobcat AKA Ford Pinto (don't laugh!). It was a fine original car that needed a few minor things, but the 2.3L 4 cyl engine ran very well with 131Kmi on it. It needed shocks, but I had no idea about the bad ball joints until we jacked it up. The grease fittings were rusted as if the car had never been lubed, and the left front wheel had noticeable play in it and could be moved up and down. We were hauling a$$ down I5 the day before at light speed (for aBobcat anyway), and there were no problems. It did have a slight shimmy at highway speeds that felt like a tire out of balance, but other than that, there were no symptoms, no groaning, no creaking, nada! We changed both ball joints on each side as well as the guide rod and sweigh bar bushings. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
Loren wrote:States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Hi Loren, I know you;re just repeating what the seller wrote - but have you or anyone else heard about such a exemption? I would think a 10 yr old car would be even more important to have the proper mileage listed? Have you or other heard of state or federal law exempting 10+ yr old vehicles? I know all the vehicles I've bought and sold in Va have req'd the mileage statement - and if it was beyond the mechanical limits such had to be stated. Loren's right - sounds suspicious. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook There are some things that don't add up to a well maintained car: Tow hook cover is missing Something is wrong with the exhaust. It is non-standard, and hangs too low. The latch inside the drivers door appears to be broken and hanging down The parcel net holders behind the seats do not match the seats. Rust in the spare tire well Claims to be a dealer, but has only 14 feed back on ebay States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Looks like he had someone rub armorall all over everything And that is just looking through quickly Could be a 200 or 300k mile car that has had the odo messed with. Careful! At 08:41 PM 6/10/2007, you wrote: Donald - this looks like a car you'd be interested in --- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120129379951fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us or http://tinyurl.com/339jgw -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/842 - Release Date: 6/9/2007 10:46 AM
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
i wouldn't touch it - car dealer from florida? that's two strikes. Add to that obvious misrepresentations about rust and cosmetic issues (photos usually don't lie), and you have potential for a $5k dud. Mileage exemption? In Ohio, there's an odometer certification on every title, with boxes for in excess of mechanical limits and odometer has been altered. On 6/11/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren wrote:States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Hi Loren, I know you;re just repeating what the seller wrote - but have you or anyone else heard about such a exemption? I would think a 10 yr old car would be even more important to have the proper mileage listed? Have you or other heard of state or federal law exempting 10+ yr old vehicles? I know all the vehicles I've bought and sold in Va have req'd the mileage statement - and if it was beyond the mechanical limits such had to be stated. Loren's right - sounds suspicious. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook There are some things that don't add up to a well maintained car: Tow hook cover is missing Something is wrong with the exhaust. It is non-standard, and hangs too low. The latch inside the drivers door appears to be broken and hanging down The parcel net holders behind the seats do not match the seats. Rust in the spare tire well Claims to be a dealer, but has only 14 feed back on ebay States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Looks like he had someone rub armorall all over everything And that is just looking through quickly Could be a 200 or 300k mile car that has had the odo messed with. Careful! At 08:41 PM 6/10/2007, you wrote: Donald - this looks like a car you'd be interested in --- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=120129379951fromMakeTrack=truessPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us or http://tinyurl.com/339jgw -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy. -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/842 - Release Date: 6/9/2007 10:46 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] 603 VCV swap cures hard shifting
Everything I've seen lists the transmission modulator pressure at a given speed, implying the car is moving. I've found that, at least for the 722.315 in most of the early 80's turbos, that the pressure in motion is within about 0.1 bar of the pressure at idle. What I do is get the transmission good and warm (at least 20 minutes of driving), run the car up on the ramps, set the modulator pressure, and then take her for a test drive while still observing the pressures. It may or may not require another quarter turn or so to nail it perfectly. I happen to have a rather crude gauge sitting in the garage that anyone is welcome to borrow for the cost of shipping. Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 6/7/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that measured with or without the vacuum line hooked up? The article on mbz.org suggests without, but I'm unclear whether that is when the car is stationary (presumably idling), while in motion, or both.
Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
The heads were seriously prone to warping, much like the later MB diesels. Avoid them at all costs. Dan --- Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This model was brought up several months ago. Don't remember if it was by me or not, but I do remember that my wife and I were looking at them on the internet and agreed that they are attractive autos. The prevailing wind on the forum was that they are more difficult and expensive to maintain than MB. I'm not speaking from any knowledge, however - just what I remember from the forum discussion. Hopefully someone else will chime in. They are cute cars though. Brian 83 240D 87 190D (in a week) On 6/10/07, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know how these stack up against same era diesel 123s and 126s? I have located one that needs transmission work but all else looks reasonably presentable. might be a nice little project. Eric 85 300CD 112K It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
Here in Texas, the value is whatever you say it is! Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 6/8/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I lived in Illinois the registration fee was flat based on vehicle type. All passenger cars had the same fee, regardless of value.
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
In Alabama, the value at the time of sale is whatever the buyer seller agree to sales tax is based on stated value. Annual registration taxes are based on a depreciation table most of my cars are at the bottom. The tags (incl. tax) for my 77 Corvette, 1959 Mercedes 220S 1987 Mercedes 300SDL run about $42.00 each per year. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D Here in Texas, the value is whatever you say it is! Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 6/8/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I lived in Illinois the registration fee was flat based on vehicle type. All passenger cars had the same fee, regardless of value. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
Larry T. wrote: I know you;re just repeating what the seller wrote - but have you or anyone else heard about such a exemption? I would think a 10 yr old car would be even more important to have the proper mileage listed? I don't know what Florida says, but I know that in Missouri all cars over 10 years are exempt from the requirements of a mileage statement, but the Missouri titles still allow to specify the mileage. In other words, you can says exempt or you can put the actual mileage. I haven't the studied the pictures of this car. I think it looks like it is in pretty good shape. But, I also agree with all of your general comments about things to watch for. It is irrelevant right now, because I can't buy another car, until I sell mine. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale)
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
Alabama cars over 10 years old are also exempt from mileage statements. This is actually not a bad idea because once a car reaches 10 years, condition is really all the matters. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook Larry T. wrote: I know you;re just repeating what the seller wrote - but have you or anyone else heard about such a exemption? I would think a 10 yr old car would be even more important to have the proper mileage listed? I don't know what Florida says, but I know that in Missouri all cars over 10 years are exempt from the requirements of a mileage statement, but the Missouri titles still allow to specify the mileage. In other words, you can says exempt or you can put the actual mileage. I haven't the studied the pictures of this car. I think it looks like it is in pretty good shape. But, I also agree with all of your general comments about things to watch for. It is irrelevant right now, because I can't buy another car, until I sell mine. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K (For Sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
Hi, All. Florida has a mileage exemption for 10 year old cars. An almost relative is a small used car dealer down there and, as he has found Jesus, a reasonably honest one. Not all cats are grey after midnight! Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 87 300TD 85 Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't touch it - car dealer from florida? that's two strikes. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 13:46:42 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=alnrmhc11.comcast.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HxkEE-0006Ep-DU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:46:42 + Received: from alnrmhc11.comcast.net ([206.18.177.51] helo=alnrmhc11.comcast.net) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 13:46:42 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-71-199-114-147.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[71.199.114.147]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc11) with ESMTP id 20070611134832b1100g8evoe; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:48:32 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:48:26 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 13:46:42 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:46:42 - Jim Cathey wrote: How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end? A year or two, maybe. Then the wheel folds under the car. Hopefully you aren't near any oncoming traffic, or ravines. Happened to me, turning around in a barnyard instead of the night before at 75 MPH on the freeway. Lucky. Happened to the neighbors last year. Skidded to a stop on the freeway in a shower of sparks. Nobody hurt. Lucky. Do you feel lucky, punk? :-) Ball joint failure USUALLY occur a slow speeds and tight turns (not sure why) but they CAN occur at speed (9 of the ten reports I have - including my own 300TD - are at slow speeds when maneuvering). I would NOT trust a damaged ball joint more than a few months, but that's ENTIRELY a matter of how worn the joint is. There is NO criteria for how long it will last once you lub it. One that had only recently started to deteriorate MIGHT last for years and one that was worn to 98+% of the failure point might let go as you drove out of the driveway the first time. You REALLY don't want one to fail on you - especially not at speed! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
This ad is largely the same boilerplate text as an '87 TD that was listed a few weeks ago. I thought it all looked very familiar, and then came to this phrase which I distinctly recall striking me as a ridiculous statement to make in a car ad: the metal parts on it are made of solid metal material. ... and I assume the glass is made of glass and the tires are made of rubber too. Allan Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some things that don't add up to a well maintained car: Tow hook cover is missing Something is wrong with the exhaust. It is non-standard, and hangs too low. The latch inside the drivers door appears to be broken and hanging down The parcel net holders behind the seats do not match the seats. Rust in the spare tire well Claims to be a dealer, but has only 14 feed back on ebay States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Looks like he had someone rub armorall all over everything And that is just looking through quickly Could be a 200 or 300k mile car that has had the odo messed with. Careful! -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the metal parts on it are made of solid metal material. ... and I assume the glass is made of glass and the tires are made of rubber too. Allan There is a repair material, sort of super Bondo, called All Metal There is Truth and there is truth. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT Bondo Epeciale 300TD Eggslant - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 13:55:01 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=bee.hiwaay.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HxkMG-0006kp-Rv for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:55:01 + Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11] helo=bee.hiwaay.net) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 13:55:00 + Received: from tomrmkj2yanjy9 ([216.180.87.249]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5BDukJh1458503 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:56:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 08:56:40 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcesL+Wr0bmHeI6vSQSVksRWO9BoPAAAGCNg Content-Language: en-us X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 13:55:00 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:55:01 - Actually, tires are not - they are filled with air... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Moir Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 8:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the metal parts on it are made of solid metal material. ... and I assume the glass is made of glass and the tires are made of rubber too. Allan There is a repair material, sort of super Bondo, called All Metal There is Truth and there is truth. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT Bondo Epeciale 300TD Eggslant - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
LarryT wrote: Have you or other heard of state or federal law exempting 10+ yr old vehicles? I know all the vehicles I've bought and sold in Va have req'd the mileage statement - and if it was beyond the mechanical limits such had to be stated. Both IN and MI have a 10 year exemption on mileage. By the time a car is that old, mileage is a very poor replacement for properly evaluating condition and wear. I titled a 14 year old car (I was 2nd owner) with full certification of the 84k odometer from the original owner. When my (Michigan) title came in the mail, the mileage listed was EXEMPT. Made me wish I'd kept copies of the title I turned in. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
Zoltan Finks wrote: Now this leads me to ask: is such a catastrophe always preceeded by telltale noises (the creaking we're talking about)? If not, it seems that many drivers who have not done proper maintenance, or do not know what maintenance that has been done, may be seconds away from this with no warning. Yet you rarely see it. Not any reliable/usual warning before total failure in the cases I know of. You have ALREADY been warned. When the grease quieted the joint, that was your warning that the joint WAS bad and needed to be replaced. This failure is simply a matter of ball joint wear. That is checked on every yearly safety inspection in Pennsylvania (and most other states that have safety inspections). It's something that should be checked at least yearly and more often if an old car is driven HARD. Mercedes is nice in that they ball joints USUALLY make squeaking/groaning noises before they fail - once they make noise, the joint IS trashed. The fact that grease quiets the joint is a diagnostic and does NOT repair the wear that exists and only slightly slows further wear. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
eric peterson wrote: Anybody know how these stack up against same era diesel 123s and 126s? I have located one that needs transmission work but all else looks reasonably presentable. might be a nice little project. How many 20+ year old BMWs do you see on the road vs Mercedes? They do not age well. The engine in that car was a good engine, but the car will almost surely be worn out. Will be expensive to maintain and some engine parts will be difficult to obtain reliably. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
In short, BMW makes good motorcycles, and hard to maintain cars (Read $$) A BMW Motorcycle and a Mercedes Benz Diesel make a good combination. (Been there since 1971) Loren 1970 R75/5 Lotsa MBs At 09:04 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: eric peterson wrote: Anybody know how these stack up against same era diesel 123s and 126s? I have located one that needs transmission work but all else looks reasonably presentable. might be a nice little project. How many 20+ year old BMWs do you see on the road vs Mercedes? They do not age well. The engine in that car was a good engine, but the car will almost surely be worn out. Will be expensive to maintain and some engine parts will be difficult to obtain reliably. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
[MBZ] MB Interface
(I sent this out on the 8th but think it went to the wrong place) Hi Kaleb, I am getting ready to order the MB Interface to use a Alpine Changer with my Becker Grand Prix Amp, head unit and tuner. Can you tell me what the MB interface box looks like? I found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110011375513 which says it is an interface - but I think it's just a PIE cable which I already have. The changer I bought came with the PIE cable - but if I correctly remember what you said, I need the following: PIE cable. the MB Interface Box and 2 Becker cables to connect to the Amp/tuner. I'm almost ready to spend $180 with Rusty for the MB Interface and since it;s a special order, it's not returnable. I *think* I need it, but would like your experienced opinion. - A photo the Becker/Alpine trunk setup would be perfect! But that may be too much trouble. Thanks for your help! TIA - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
[MBZ] BMW bikes (was: 85 BMW 524 TD)
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A BMW Motorcycle and a Mercedes Benz Diesel make a good combination. (Been there since 1971) Do you find that BMW bikes on the used market tend to be well-cared-for? Interested in getting a bike again, myself. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] SDL for Snook
I know you;re just repeating what the seller wrote - but have you or anyone else heard about such a exemption? I would think a 10 yr old car would be even more important to have the proper mileage listed? WA's law also exempts 10+yo vehicles. Condition, condition, condition. -- Jim
[MBZ] Soy 81 300D
Guy in Charlotte, NC, fined $1k for not paying state tax on soy oil in his 81 300D; possible $1k fed fine, too. Also trying to get him to post $2500 bond for future use. Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] BMW bikes (was: 85 BMW 524 TD)
I have not been in the market for many years, but it is simiilar to 123 diesels. Some are abused, some are neglected, some are decent, and some are flawless. you need to be sure you get what you pay for. I just checked the BMWMOA website, and there are a few R models in the $2000 price range. Quite a few in the $3000 range. Loren MOA member since 1973 I think BMW R owner since 1971 ( I know) At 09:28 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A BMW Motorcycle and a Mercedes Benz Diesel make a good combination. (Been there since 1971) Do you find that BMW bikes on the used market tend to be well-cared-for? Interested in getting a bike again, myself. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
Ouch! I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress I could see this because the trucks were backed up from the entrance to the overpass over I 35 where I was driving. Saw the Revenooers on the overpass dipping tanks. If you don't pay fuel tax, stay away from big crowds. It takes 2-3 tankfulls to get the red dye out of a tank. I buy road fuel for the tractors this time of year, because I am too cheap to pay for filling the Diesel tank with off-road fuel. (and it don't get stolen if it ain't there) I can see how long it takes to get the red out. Not much difference in price. On-farm delivery is convenient, but the jobbers and oil companies eat up most of the 50 cents or so of tax savings. At 09:33 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Guy in Charlotte, NC, fined $1k for not paying state tax on soy oil in his 81 300D; possible $1k fed fine, too. Also trying to get him to post $2500 bond for future use. Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress [...] -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
Allan Streib wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Veggie oil doesn't smell like diesel! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
exhaust smell perhaps? I am sure the revenooers have their training on how to detect taxed Diesel vs untaxed. Anyone on the list with direct experience? Loren At 10:22 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress [...] -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
On 6/11/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many 20+ year old BMWs do you see on the road vs Mercedes?
Seems to me to be about even here (Portland, OR), but maybe that's a
left-vs-right-coast thing. (No salt on the roads here---are old BMWs
less well rustproofed than Mercedes?) I see E30 chassis ('80s
3-series) and E28 chassis ('80s 5-series) cars every day, and older
ones every week or so. The E28s sure are lookers if you like that
boxy upright style---I wish the diesels were more plentiful, or the
gassers got better mileage.
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
[MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
My wife works at a local Catholic University and the nuns are selling 4-5 of their cars. Evidently, these cars are owned and maintained by the Order (Sister's of the Adorer's of the Blood of Christ). There are three 2000 Camry's all with a little over 100,000 miles. They are being sold pretty cheap. I am considering one for my wife to replace her explorer. Anyone have any experience with timing belts on these cars. The service interval is every 90,000 miles. The first thing I am trying to find out is if it has already been done. If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
It would seem the bumper sticker is a I'm guilty declaration. The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Typical I guess - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D Well, so assuming he did not put red dye in his own bio-diesel, what aside from the bumper sticker gave him away? Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw the Revenooers checking pickups entering the Farm Progress show (big) a couple of years ago. A few farmers make homebrew, but the Revenooers were primarily looking for red dyed off road fuel. I am sure they got their quota for the year in a few days of Farm Progress [...] -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
Yeah, you know, all this talk of value determining registration cost is new to me. And are we also talking about some sort of sales tax that one has to pay when they buy a car? Never heard of that. As for registration cost, I always assumed it was just based on the year of the car, since most of my vehicles have always been around $35 - $40, while my wife's newer cars have been significantly more to register. Brian On 6/11/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Alabama, the value at the time of sale is whatever the buyer seller agree to sales tax is based on stated value. Annual registration taxes are based on a depreciation table most of my cars are at the bottom. The tags (incl. tax) for my 77 Corvette, 1959 Mercedes 220S 1987 Mercedes 300SDL run about $42.00 each per year. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D Here in Texas, the value is whatever you say it is! Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 6/8/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I lived in Illinois the registration fee was flat based on vehicle type. All passenger cars had the same fee, regardless of value. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Yes. I lost a timing belt in my Camry (I want to say an '86 but am not 100% sure) while going from 4th to 5th gear on the New Hampshire portion of I-95. Engine died and probably never restarted again for all of eternity. Trashed the engine top end. On 6/11/07, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife works at a local Catholic University and the nuns are selling 4-5 of their cars. Evidently, these cars are owned and maintained by the Order (Sister's of the Adorer's of the Blood of Christ). There are three 2000 Camry's all with a little over 100,000 miles. They are being sold pretty cheap. I am considering one for my wife to replace her explorer. Anyone have any experience with timing belts on these cars. The service interval is every 90,000 miles. The first thing I am trying to find out is if it has already been done. If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? Most newer toyota engines are not interference designs, from what I recall, but certainly do your own research to confirm this particular model is not. My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Yep. Probably not as crashworthy as an MB either. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure. They have nothing to do with funding the production or processing of the fuel, the oil companies have that burden, often complicated by arcane government-mandated regional fuel formulation requirements. Now I don't know if those funds are ever diverted elsewhere, but the theory is good IMO and as far as taxes go they are actually well-justified if used for their intended purpose. People who dodge fuel taxes are getting a free ride on YOUR roads. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Let me also add that a dealer had just replaced the timing belt a few days before it broke. On 6/11/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I lost a timing belt in my Camry (I want to say an '86 but am not 100% sure) while going from 4th to 5th gear on the New Hampshire portion of I-95. Engine died and probably never restarted again for all of eternity. Trashed the engine top end. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, you know, all this talk of value determining registration cost is new to me. And are we also talking about some sort of sales tax that one has to pay when they buy a car? Never heard of that. In Indiana, to transfer a title you have to pay the sales tax. If you buy at a dealer they collect it and document that it has been paid. If you buy from a private seller you declare the purchase price paid on the title, along with the odometer reading at the time of sale, and you have to pay 6% of that when you transfer the title. Annual registration renewal also has a component based on value, but in that case not on the specific sales price of the car but some average book value for the make, model, and year. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
I see plenty of the older Bimmers you mention here on the east coast - but
they don't seem to be very well cared for. Same for older Volvos/ Lots
around but they are often appear neglected IMO. In my area (Va) there is no
salt used on the roads either - just sand IIRC.
But I believe farther north where the snow comes down more often and gets
deeper, they use salt or some type of chemical.
And if the NADA Blue Books and others that say they provide values for used
cars - you can see how the values of those cars drop dramatically after
new. But it's more than a quality issue - quantity comes in to play ad just
the fact that there are only so many who want a used BMW or Volvo.
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message -
From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 BMW 524 TD
On 6/11/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many 20+ year old BMWs do you see on the road vs Mercedes?
Seems to me to be about even here (Portland, OR), but maybe that's a
left-vs-right-coast thing. (No salt on the roads here---are old BMWs
less well rustproofed than Mercedes?) I see E30 chassis ('80s
3-series) and E28 chassis ('80s 5-series) cars every day, and older
ones every week or so. The E28s sure are lookers if you like that
boxy upright style---I wish the diesels were more plentiful, or the
gassers got better mileage.
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
'93 Isuzu Trooper
'86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
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Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
wilton strickland wrote: Guy was caught entering Lowe's Speedway where revenooers were checking Diesel motorhomes for illegal fuel. They read his bumper sticker saying, Powered by 100% veggie oil. It pays to advertise!
Re: [MBZ] BMW bikes (was: 85 BMW 524 TD)
Loren Faeth wrote: I just checked the BMWMOA website, and there are a few R models in the $2000 price range. Quite a few in the $3000 range. I should check that out. Any R80 G/S or R65 LS?
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Hi Donald - The '99 Camry we owned briefly - with the V6 - you didn't say if they were selling the 6 or straight 4? But I had it serviced - t belt and water pump - the typical while you're in there which cost around $600 IIRC. They may have doe more work - can;t recall at the moment. I replaced it with the 91 300D with approx same mileage.. Take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry My wife works at a local Catholic University and the nuns are selling 4-5 of their cars. Evidently, these cars are owned and maintained by the Order (Sister's of the Adorer's of the Blood of Christ). There are three 2000 Camry's all with a little over 100,000 miles. They are being sold pretty cheap. I am considering one for my wife to replace her explorer. Anyone have any experience with timing belts on these cars. The service interval is every 90,000 miles. The first thing I am trying to find out is if it has already been done. If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Wonko the Sane wrote: Let me also add that a dealer had just replaced the timing belt a few days before it broke. Did they replace the engine for free a few days after it broke? To the OP: I'd replace the belt every 5 years, regardless of miles, if it's an interference engine. Worst life I ever heard of was in a 1.9L 1987 Escort, 18 months and 35,000 highway miles. Owner was not happy. At least the 1.9 wasn't interference fit. I've only broke one in my life, a friend bought another friend's 1988 Tercel, it seemed to have carb problems and wasn't running right. I was coaxing it up to 70 (in 5th) on the downhills hoping to keep more than 55 up the next hill, and it just quit like I'd shut off the ignition. 3 seconds later, still in 5th gear, the oil pressure light came on and I punched the clutch. I realized within another ten seconds that I'd buusted the timing belt, but I had to pull the cover off to convince the car's new owner that we weren't going to fix that one on the roadside. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Remember the pictures of MB vs Toyota in Africa? Toy didn't fare so well. At 11:40 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? Most newer toyota engines are not interference designs, from what I recall, but certainly do your own research to confirm this particular model is not. My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Yep. Probably not as crashworthy as an MB either. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] BMW bikes (was: 85 BMW 524 TD)
One was a R65/6, one was an R75/6 I have never registered to get all the info on the website. I usually just look in the back of the magazine a couple of times a year. Loren At 12:00 PM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: I just checked the BMWMOA website, and there are a few R models in the $2000 price range. Quite a few in the $3000 range. I should check that out. Any R80 G/S or R65 LS? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D
Va has a sales tax for new and used cars - 2% or 2.5% IIRC. The great commonwealth of Va also charges a yearly personal property tax on vehicles and other major purchases - but in the 90s the tax was reduced greatly when a govenor runing for election madeit a campaign promise. Initially eliminated after a few years a subsequent Gov reduced the elimination and extended the phase out period. But for me, the 78 240D and 74 911 do't owe anything. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D Yeah, you know, all this talk of value determining registration cost is new to me. And are we also talking about some sort of sales tax that one has to pay when they buy a car? Never heard of that. As for registration cost, I always assumed it was just based on the year of the car, since most of my vehicles have always been around $35 - $40, while my wife's newer cars have been significantly more to register. Brian On 6/11/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Alabama, the value at the time of sale is whatever the buyer seller agree to sales tax is based on stated value. Annual registration taxes are based on a depreciation table most of my cars are at the bottom. The tags (incl. tax) for my 77 Corvette, 1959 Mercedes 220S 1987 Mercedes 300SDL run about $42.00 each per year. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Thompson Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 7:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finally got one Lets hope its an okay 190D Here in Texas, the value is whatever you say it is! Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 6/8/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I lived in Illinois the registration fee was flat based on vehicle type. All passenger cars had the same fee, regardless of value. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
I don't know about the timing belt issue, but the cars are way overrated. My Mother purchased one about two years ago ( after many futile attempts on my part to talk her into some fine European machinery..she COULD have got a 3 year old MB that her friends son ( a MB dealer mechanic , who had also been maintaining it personally, was turning in for a new model for less money, but) Anyway, every time she has that ( under warranty )Camry in to the dealer for scheduled service, she winds up with a bill for between $800-$1500 for non covered service items. Numerous little problems, all mechanical in nature, no non critical interior trim stuff. So far the car has not been all that they're cracked up to be. I do know the Camry has serious sludge issues and need to be run on synthetic and changed more frequently than scheduled service. She had a couple of Tauruses before that, neither made it much past 100k miles, but at least they didn't thousand dollar her to death in the mean time. --Robert Donald Snook wrote: My wife works at a local Catholic University and the nuns are selling 4-5 of their cars. Evidently, these cars are owned and maintained by the Order (Sister's of the Adorer's of the Blood of Christ). There are three 2000 Camry's all with a little over 100,000 miles. They are being sold pretty cheap. I am considering one for my wife to replace her explorer. Anyone have any experience with timing belts on these cars. The service interval is every 90,000 miles. The first thing I am trying to find out is if it has already been done. If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K For Sale http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D
Allan writes:Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure I fear the taxes are put into a big pot and used for whatever the gov't decides. Just like Social Security. We continually see various Bond inititives offered to fund new construction - or the dreaded toll road - of which we have several around here. Even the local section of I95 had a portion with tolls - until they built a by-pass around the cities and sections where the roads were located. ;-) Made a lot of people happy. My problem wasn't paying the toll so much as the horrendous traffic jam the collection booths caused. Every 10 mi or so, - everybody stops and tosses a quarter or 2 into the hopper - then races to the next stop. ;-) Have a nice week - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Soy 81 300D LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Gubmint and their infernal taxes reach out to everybody. Even though veggie oil takes a lot of work to collect, process and convert the vehicle, the gubmint will reach into his pocket after not helping at any part of the process. Fuel taxes are supposed to fund the construction and maintenance of roads and related infrastructure. They have nothing to do with funding the production or processing of the fuel, the oil companies have that burden, often complicated by arcane government-mandated regional fuel formulation requirements. Now I don't know if those funds are ever diverted elsewhere, but the theory is good IMO and as far as taxes go they are actually well-justified if used for their intended purpose. People who dodge fuel taxes are getting a free ride on YOUR roads. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, every time she has that ( under warranty ) Camry in to the dealer for scheduled service, she winds up with a bill for between $800-$1500 for non covered service items. I thought that was just standard for any car, any dealer. That's why I don't ever take my cars to the dealer for any reason except warranty work. -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
You can find the info you looking for by Googling it and checking a few sites. Often places that sell timing belts will provide that info. I just did the belt on an old Sunbird. Runnind down the highway and snap! good think I was going fast enough I could cruise to the next off ramp. You see, speed is always a good think, unless a lightpole jumps in from of you. hee hee. Maybe you could turn the cam and see if you feel anything funky on the Toy. Read up on where to turn it first though, some cams if you turn by the pully, you can mess up the bearing. Ed300E On 11/06/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the pictures of MB vs Toyota in Africa? Toy didn't fare so well. At 11:40 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? Most newer toyota engines are not interference designs, from what I recall, but certainly do your own research to confirm this particular model is not. My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Yep. Probably not as crashworthy as an MB either. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
There are lots of sites like this with timing belt info. http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doityourself/l/bl_timingbelts6.htm you could probably buy the belt for $35 or so. good luck, Ed 300E On 11/06/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can find the info you looking for by Googling it and checking a few sites. Often places that sell timing belts will provide that info. I just did the belt on an old Sunbird. Runnind down the highway and snap! good think I was going fast enough I could cruise to the next off ramp. You see, speed is always a good think, unless a lightpole jumps in from of you. hee hee. Maybe you could turn the cam and see if you feel anything funky on the Toy. Read up on where to turn it first though, some cams if you turn by the pully, you can mess up the bearing. Ed300E On 11/06/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember the pictures of MB vs Toyota in Africa? Toy didn't fare so well. At 11:40 AM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If not, does anyone know is this is an 'interference engine, i.e. if the belt fails with the car just stop running or this the kind where it does damage to the engine if it breaks? Most newer toyota engines are not interference designs, from what I recall, but certainly do your own research to confirm this particular model is not. My opinion of these cars is that they are pretty boring, but are fuel efficient and reliable. Yep. Probably not as crashworthy as an MB either. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Gentlemen, The authouritative answer to the interference question is yes. All Camrys since their inception are interference designs. All new Toyota's since the mid eighties also are to the best of my knowledge. Honda's as well. I say this after having worked for Toyota at dealership and HQ level for 13 mind-numbing years. As for belt change intervals, the original belt should be changed by 100Kmi/160,000KM. In the mid nineties they changed the REPLACEMENT belt spec and increased the recommended interval from 60kmi to 100kmi. The four banger is an excellent, reliable engine as is the six. They were some issues on the early sixes, and Lexus V8s with leaky waterpumps making the t-celt idler pulley rust and the abrasives produced would shred the belt. As for the death by a thousand cuts, that was a shyster dealer, no doubt. The probelm with the 88 Tercel (EL32) was with the crappy carb design that attempted to use a swirl combustion and proceeded to instead fill the combustion chamber and valve seats and intake manifold with carbon causing severe loss of powerthey brought out several different fixes which never really solved the bad design problem. Problem was finally solved when the fuel injected the next model (EL43) Friends of mine working for Toyota in the UK told me that the Corolla had the same carb but did NOT suffer the same problems. May have been a fuel quality issue as welllow octane(?) Jeff Zedic Ex Toyota Shmoe
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Well,this may be true, but when you consider that she got the Fords from the same dealer and didn't get raked over the coals on either of them --Robert Allan Streib wrote: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, every time she has that ( under warranty ) Camry in to the dealer for scheduled service, she winds up with a bill for between $800-$1500 for non covered service items. I thought that was just standard for any car, any dealer. That's why I don't ever take my cars to the dealer for any reason except warranty work.
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Well,this may be true, but when you consider that she got the Fords from the same dealer and didn't get raked over the coals on either of them Same service dept, same team of service writers (advisors)?
[MBZ] Soy 81 300D
His veggie bumper sticker gave him away. Then, surely, they checked his fuel and found, shownuff, soy oil, not tax-paid Diesel. Wilton
[MBZ] Quick Reminder Needed - Allen Key Size for Starter
Gang, As I set out tonight or tomorrow on my road trip and move myself and my pooch to our new house, could someone remind me the size of the allen key required to replace the starter (83 240D). The starter gave me intermittent problems a while back, but has been working fine for some time now. I noticed that the solenoid part of it was actually loose Hmmm. I will be carrying my spare starter in the trunk as I have for a while now. But I need to make sure I have the right tools. Thanks Brian
Re: [MBZ] Quick Reminder Needed - Allen Key Size for Starter
10mm. Make sure to bring extensions and a hefty universal with you as well. 1/2 drive is better, but 3/8 will work most of the time. Do not forget the screwdriver and the 13 or 17mm for the solenoid connections. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com On Jun 11, 2007, at 3:04 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Gang, As I set out tonight or tomorrow on my road trip and move myself and my pooch to our new house, could someone remind me the size of the allen key required to replace the starter (83 240D). The starter gave me intermittent problems a while back, but has been working fine for some time now. I noticed that the solenoid part of it was actually loose Hmmm. I will be carrying my spare starter in the trunk as I have for a while now. But I need to make sure I have the right tools. Thanks Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing
The 2.3 liter 4 cylinder that was used in the Pintos and other models was also a favorite in Capris (not the pants) as were the earlier 2.0 liter 4 cylinders as well. A pretty tough little engine. Dan (former 1971 1/2 Ford Pinto Hatchback owner) --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago, My dad and I had a '79 Mercury Bobcat AKA Ford Pinto (don't laugh!). It was a fine original car that needed a few minor things, but the 2.3L 4 cyl engine ran very well with 131Kmi on it. It needed shocks, but I had no idea about the bad ball joints until we jacked it up. The grease fittings were rusted as if the car had never been lubed, and the left front wheel had noticeable play in it and could be moved up and down. We were hauling a$$ down I5 the day before at light speed (for aBobcat anyway), and there were no problems. It did have a slight shimmy at highway speeds that felt like a tire out of balance, but other than that, there were no symptoms, no groaning, no creaking, nada! We changed both ball joints on each side as well as the guide rod and sweigh bar bushings. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
[MBZ] Injector Pump Delivery Seal Tool
Hi All, On my '87 190dt I sprung a leak from the top of the nut where the injector line goes into the pump. I will be replacing all the seals, springs and o-rings. According to a short dissertation I found written by Marshall on another forum, these delivery valves have to be correctly torqued. Where can I get the correct tool? Rusty does NOT have it. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 20:01:31 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=omta01.suddenlink.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hxq4x-00044b-9z for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:01:31 + Received: from omta01.suddenlink.net ([208.180.40.73] helo=omta01.suddenlink.net) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 20:01:31 + Received: from raec400 ([208.200.199.198]) by omta01.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:03:18 -0500 From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:03:00 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcesTFZgaqULkq19RiqTamE0EsfFsQAFj63g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 20:01:31 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Registration cost... X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:01:31 - Brian said Yeah, you know, all this talk of value determining registration cost is new to me. And are we also talking about some sort of sales tax that one has to pay when they buy a car? Never heard of that. As for registration cost, I always assumed it was just based on the year of the car, since most of my vehicles have always been around $35 - $40, while my wife's newer cars have been significantly more to register. Brian You don't really expect the gummint folks to just let you decide how much tax to pay, do ya? In Texas it ain't the registration cost, it's the sales tax that gets ya. I just bought an Expedition from my daughter, and in order to register it, I have to pay sales tax on the transaction. Oh, and just in case you get a sweetheart deal from a relative, there is a table that says what the nominal value is, and if your sales price is less than 80% of that value, you pay tax on the 80% number. There is still a gift transfer that costs $20, but since I decided to finance it, I had to put down a lienholder. Death and taxes Royce '85 300TDt 299K
Re: [MBZ] Registration cost...
I think in Indiana it was considered excise tax, as in this is how we excise money from the taxpayers. Dan --- Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian said Yeah, you know, all this talk of value determining registration cost is new to me. And are we also talking about some sort of sales tax that one has to pay when they buy a car? Never heard of that. As for registration cost, I always assumed it was just based on the year of the car, since most of my vehicles have always been around $35 - $40, while my wife's newer cars have been significantly more to register. Brian You don't really expect the gummint folks to just let you decide how much tax to pay, do ya? In Texas it ain't the registration cost, it's the sales tax that gets ya. I just bought an Expedition from my daughter, and in order to register it, I have to pay sales tax on the transaction. Oh, and just in case you get a sweetheart deal from a relative, there is a table that says what the nominal value is, and if your sales price is less than 80% of that value, you pay tax on the 80% number. There is still a gift transfer that costs $20, but since I decided to finance it, I had to put down a lienholder. Death and taxes Royce '85 300TDt 299K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz
Re: [MBZ] Injector Pump Delivery Seal Tool
Rusty can get the socket you need. you will also need a torque wrench in the correct range. Order 2-3 extra o-rings and at least one extra copper seal while you are at it. It is good practice to also replace the delivery valve springs whileyou are in there. Rusty has all the parts. Be sure you have a pick or at least an awl to retrieve and position the copper seals. Clean everything on the top of the pump before you start. Back out the delivery valve holders 21-3 turns, until the o-ring shows, and clean again. the orings will drag up a bunch of dirt with them. After everything is clean, then remove the vlave holders the rest of the way. John Reames did a great write-up on this list a few years ago. If you can't find it I can send it. Loren At 02:45 PM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Hi All, On my '87 190dt I sprung a leak from the top of the nut where the injector line goes into the pump. I will be replacing all the seals, springs and o-rings. According to a short dissertation I found written by Marshall on another forum, these delivery valves have to be correctly torqued. Where can I get the correct tool? Rusty does NOT have it. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Robert L. wrote: She had a couple of Tauruses before that, neither made it much past 100k miles, but at least they didn't thousand dollar her to death in the mean time. That really surprises me, one of the attorneys in our drives nothing but Taureses (Tauri?). He had a 2000 Black Taurus and his wife had a 2002 Taurus. His had a little over 170,000 miles when he decided to sell it. I asked him one time how the fuel mileage was and he said that it had dropped recently to about 23 mpg. I asked him when he last changed the plugs, wires, fuel filter etc. and he said he had never done that. He only changed the oil, brakes, and tires. He also replaced the alternator once. That is it. Now, don't get me wrong. The car had other problems. It popped and snapped and had a power steering pump whine. But, he drove that car for 170,000 miles and did almost nothing to it. He is now driving his wife's 2002 Taurus. It has a little over 220,000 miles on it and the transmission went out on it last month. So, he went fixed that, but that is also all he had ever done on the car. I hate the Taurus. They have no soul, no style and no character. But, they do seem to be fairly bulletproof. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Thanks for all the information on the Camry's. If I can buy it cheap enough, I will get it, my wife can drive it for a while and then I can sell it. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344
Re: [MBZ] Registration cost...
Each state we have lived in rakes in money using different methods with the same result. Tn didn;t have a income tax but their sales tax and property tax made up for it.Each state we have lived in managed to collect about the same from us - TN, Tx, SC, NJ, La, Va, Il. Different names for the same thing - ways to move money from your pocket to theirs. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Registration cost... In Iowa it isn't called a sales tax, although that is what it is. They call it a use tax and that way the slimy __ s can claim there is no sales tax on cars sold here. Because we now have all these goofy local option taxes, sales tax varies depending on whereyou are in the state. That is why Iowa city/coralville and Williamsburg have become shopping meccas for women. They will spend $40 on gas to go there and save 40 cents on reduced taxes on a purchase. They were real suspicious about the price for a few years, but now they accept whatever the bill of sale says. Bill of sale can just be a handwritten sheet signed by both parties. But you WILL pay a USE tax, and a gift registration fee is higher, but I don't remember how much. Licence is based on sticker price, weight and age. My 86 SDL was $59 and the 87 SDL was $23 Go figger. Loren At 03:03 PM 6/11/2007, you wrote: Brian said Yeah, you know, all this talk of value determining registration cost is new to me. And are we also talking about some sort of sales tax that one has to pay when they buy a car? Never heard of that. As for registration cost, I always assumed it was just based on the year of the car, since most of my vehicles have always been around $35 - $40, while my wife's newer cars have been significantly more to register. Brian You don't really expect the gummint folks to just let you decide how much tax to pay, do ya? In Texas it ain't the registration cost, it's the sales tax that gets ya. I just bought an Expedition from my daughter, and in order to register it, I have to pay sales tax on the transaction. Oh, and just in case you get a sweetheart deal from a relative, there is a table that says what the nominal value is, and if your sales price is less than 80% of that value, you pay tax on the 80% number. There is still a gift transfer that costs $20, but since I decided to finance it, I had to put down a lienholder. Death and taxes Royce '85 300TDt 299K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 6/10/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [MBZ] Registration cost...
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Each state we have lived in rakes in money using different methods with the same result. Tn didn;t have a income tax but their sales tax and property tax made up for it.Each state we have lived in managed to collect about the same from us - TN, Tx, SC, NJ, La, Va, Il. Different names for the same thing - ways to move money from your pocket to theirs. Yes. They all seem to like to have a lot of small taxes as opposed to one or two larger, general taxes. It would make more sense to have a small, flat registration fee to cover the administrative cost of just that function, and a larger fuel tax, since that hits the actual users of the roads more fairly (i.e. in proportion to the amount of driving done) but by having more small taxes they can hide how much they are taking from you more effectively. Allan
Re: [MBZ] Registration cost...
-Original Message- Yes. They all seem to like to have a lot of small taxes as opposed to one or two larger, general taxes. It would make more sense to have a small, flat registration fee to cover the administrative cost of just that function, and a larger fuel tax, since that hits the actual users of the roads more fairly (i.e. in proportion to the amount of driving done) but by having more small taxes they can hide how much they are taking from you more effectively. Allan ___ First off, this is government we are talking about so very little chance of them trying to do something that would make sense. Secondly, around here,we have both a sales tax levied every time a vehicle is sold and a substantial fuel tax. We also pay an annual registration fee that probably is somewhat related to the cost of administration. We pay the sales tax based upon either the book value or the sales receipt, whichever is higher. For example, I just sold an old LTD to a friend of one of my sons for $1K. Book value is essentially nil but he had to pay the tax on the full $1K. 7% so $70 for the good provincial government. If he had bought from a dealer, he would also have to pay the federal goods and services tax of 6%. So far, they have not levied that on private vehicle sales. On a new $50K vehicle, the tax is not insignificant. That would be $6,500 or about what I paid for my old MB. Randy in Taxitoba, Canada
Re: [MBZ] Registration cost...
Loren Faeth wrote: They were real suspicious about the price for a few years, but now they accept whatever the bill of sale says. Bill of sale can just be a handwritten sheet signed by both parties. But you WILL pay a USE tax, and a gift registration fee is higher, but I don't remember how much. In my little town all I do is bring the signed title in, and I pay the for the registration. I think they have the cost for sales tax purposes as $1. I made the mistake of bringing the bill of sale in when I bought my SD... and that cost me $200+. My wagon cost ~$35. :-) John
Re: [MBZ] WAS Needle Greasing NOW PINTO
My father had a Bobcat and I considered buying a Pinto more than once but never did. The motor might have been tough but it was so noisy and rough that comparing it to a Honda made it undesirable. At one time, about 20 plus years ago I wanted a small station wagon. I tried a really nice Pinto wagon with the woodgrain etc. A really nice loaded little car with low miles. The roughness and noise of the engine under acceleration persuaded me to buy a Honda Civic Wagon instead. The Honda was a good little car and I put a whole lot of miles on it in about 3 years. It was only a 1.3 litre engine and the gearing was such that I was always trying to go from 5th into an non-existent 6th gear. I guess they geared it a bit lower so you could load the wagon and haul. The 4 dr sedans with the 1.5 engines were much more pleasant to drive. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now That I've Poked The First Hole - Needle Greasing The 2.3 liter 4 cylinder that was used in the Pintos and other models was also a favorite in Capris (not the pants) as were the earlier 2.0 liter 4 cylinders as well. A pretty tough little engine. Dan (former 1971 1/2 Ford Pinto Hatchback owner) --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago, My dad and I had a '79 Mercury Bobcat AKA Ford Pinto (don't laugh!). It was a fine original car that needed a few minor things, but the 2.3L 4 cyl engine ran very well with 131Kmi on it. It needed shocks, but I had no idea about the bad ball joints until we jacked it up. The grease fittings were rusted as if the car had never been lubed, and the left front wheel had noticeable play in it and could be moved up and down. We were hauling a$$ down I5 the day before at light speed (for aBobcat anyway), and there were no problems. It did have a slight shimmy at highway speeds that felt like a tire out of balance, but other than that, there were no symptoms, no groaning, no creaking, nada! We changed both ball joints on each side as well as the guide rod and sweigh bar bushings. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
Try to find out what work has been done on it. It may need struts all the way around and a rack. My wife has a 98 Avalon and that is its current situation at only about 70K miles. It has also been somewhat troublesome in the electrical area - power window issues, climate control issues etc. Don't know if the Camry was built in Japan or US. Avalon was built in US and that may be part of its problem. We have a 4Runner that was built in Japan and apart from rust it has actually been pretty good. A 95 wih about 120K miles. So far just things that wear out like a clutch, brakes, CV boots, battery and muffler. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry Thanks for all the information on the Camry's. If I can buy it cheap enough, I will get it, my wife can drive it for a while and then I can sell it. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 137K http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=221355344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic Toyota Camry
If it's built in Japan the VIN will start with JT2 for cars and JT4 for trucks, if I remember correctly. The US made Camry, Avalon and Corolla started with 2T1 and 1T1. Easiest way to tell.aside from the driver's pillar sticker. Jeff Zedic
[MBZ] Odometer statement
iIn Texas, a car that is old enough (think maybe ten yr) is exempt from the odometer statement. Every car I have bought since the 5 yr old Grand Marquis in the late 1980's has been exempt. There are is also a box for mileage is in excess of mechanical limits of odometer: My 1976 Ford pickup has over 400,000 miles, over 225K of which I put on it. Odometer goes to 100,000 then rolls over to zero. Seen it do it three times. There's also a box for the mileage shown is not the correct mileage; correct mileage is unknown. But old cars are exempt in Texas and I suspect elsewhere also. Think about it. A car that has been through several owners may have a reasonably correct odometer and it may not, and no one necessarily knows what is correct. That shouldn't make the PO a criminal if he doesn't misrepresent the mileage or mess with it to try to fool others, or make it impossible to sell legally because the PO can't tell the true mileage. At some point we have to start trusting our own appraisal of condition. especially since mileage is really no more than an indicator. It took me about 30 minutes to decide, more than 18 months back, that the 123.223 was OK. Anyone else can do the same thing. My 123.223, coolant leak and all, has a great engine, automatic transmission, and running gear. It shows 142K miles now, and uses no detectable oil at 4,000 miles between changes. I do the book maintenance as far as possible: change all fluids and filters at reasonable intervals, oil analysis maybe every other change. Last oil analysis showed excess fuel in oil: check fuel system. On 6/11/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren wrote:States that mileage is exempt from certification, because it is more than 10 years old. Hi Loren, I know you;re just repeating what the seller wrote - but have you or anyone else heard about such a exemption? I would think a 10 yr old car would be even more important to have the proper mileage listed? Have you or other heard of state or federal law exempting 10+ yr old vehicles? I know all the vehicles I've bought and sold in Va have req'd the mileage statement - and if it was beyond the mechanical limits such had to be stated. Loren's right - sounds suspicious. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jun 11 23:07:43 2007 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=bee.hiwaay.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Hxsz8-0006yT-W6 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:07:43 + Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11] helo=bee.hiwaay.net) by ASSP.nospam; 11 Jun 2007 23:07:42 + Received: from tomrmkj2yanjy9 ([216.180.87.249]) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l5BN7VZi1322683 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:09:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:09:22 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcesW3DuN2Bvxf60TNWvwDTVgkBgUAAIg/uQ Content-Language: en-us X-Assp-Delay: not delayed (whitelisted); 11 Jun 2007 23:07:42 + X-Assp-Whitelisted: Yes X-Assp-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Assp-Intended-For: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick Reminder Needed - Allen Key Size for Starter X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:07:43 - It's 8 or 10 mm, don't remember which one. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Quick Reminder Needed - Allen Key Size for Starter Gang, As I set out tonight or tomorrow on my road trip and move myself and my pooch to our new house, could someone remind me the size of the allen key required to replace the starter (83 240D). The starter gave me intermittent problems a while back, but has been working fine for some time now. I noticed that the solenoid part
