Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
It seems than at Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:39:42 -0500, Kaleb wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. RoundUp The active ingredient is glyphosate. The off brand work nearly as well and are cheaper. The stuff is actually rather bio-friendly. It kills only the plants that get there leaves sprayed, bio-degrades in a couple months, and it's uncommon for it to contaminate water supplies. I use it mostly on poison ivy. This is if you want to kill the plants that are _currently_ growing. It does nothing to stop future growth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate http://extoxnet.orst.edu/pips/glyphosa.htm http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/dw_contamfs/glyphosa.html --Philip, in the Ozark jungle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
I have goats -- they work well, as long as you confine them, which is not as easy as it sounds! I'd also note that if the area is too large, the goat (or any other critter) will pick and choose and it will take forever to clear the area. The best way, if you don't want a herd of goats or a flock of geese is to confine them to a small area then move them to the next small area to be cleared, rather than leaving a couple of animals to roam a larger area where they will clear selectively. Just like us, they have their preferences, and won't clear an area unless you make it necessary -- i.e. there's a limited amount of total forage, so they eat it all. Keep in mind that goats are hard on trees -- they will graze off the lower limbs and strip the bark, if given the opportunity. Geese are another option -- they're herbivores and excellent watch critters (they raise all manner of he!! when strangers come around, and their bite can be very discouraging -- sort of a pinch on steroids, and they have the reach to make their point). As with any other critter, confine them to the area you want cleared. They won't hurt your trees, if thats an issue. Another couple of very effective, critter-free, non-toxic options -- 20% vinegar -- this is horticultural vinegar. The grocery store kind is only 5% acid, which won't help. Thsi stuff will kill whatever you spray with it as long as the weather is warm-to-hot, and as long as it doesn't rain for a couple of days. propane torch -- a little wand torch (about $20 or less most places, incl. Northern Tools) that connects to a propane tank. Where I am, it's been raining like the original flood, so there's no chance of starting a wildfire if I wanted to. It's a particularly effective solution for weeds growing in cracks, or for selective weeding around valuable plants, but is also good in your application -- clearing an area. If your property drains into a creek or water feature with fish or ducks, DO NOT use Round-Up -- it is extremely toxic to fish and fowl. Time is at once the most valuable and the most perishable of all our possessions. John Randolph ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
The sum total of my testing thus far has been to ensure that there was power at the clutch. I tested each pole against the others and each pole to ground. The only place I found power was from each to ground. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:59:45 -0500 From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: When I tested for power I got +12v on BOTH of the wires... Nothing between them... There is some bodgered wiring in the vicinity of where the wires from the clutch come back into the harness over between the powersteering pump and the valve cover. A mystery brown wire was added in at some point I think to force the A/C to come on while the ACC controller was disconnected (plug fell off, I found it because I thought the lights were out) this was all pre-me by the way. I'll dig some more tonight, maybe I'll pull one of the wires and put a ground on and see what happens. Did you ground the wire that is on the temp switch on top of the engine? - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. Dog urine seems to do a very effective job in our lawn. Not sure where you get a bulk supply though. Roundup or the chemical equivalent would be my choice. Note if you buy the concentrate, I've found that when diluted according to the label it works rather slowly, takes maybe a week for everything to die. Their ready-mix seems to be stronger, it will wilt the plants within hours and they are dead the next day or so. So if you buy the concentrate, maybe mix it a little stronger than they suggest if you are in a hurry. As others have mentioned, this does not prevent future growth, only kills what is already growing. Good if you want to kill a weed patch and then plant grass or flowers, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
On 7/13/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JHFC! Now, that's a new one for me. What does it mean? That would be Jesus H. F-ing Christ. Not quite sure of the origin of the expression. -- Jim It's meant to be proclaimed as JESUS (as if trying to gain his attention) then much softer but working up to another proclaimation holy f-ING CHRIST!! -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Of course... I'll try it again pulling the cable but... That I have 12v available still pretty much indicates a bad clutch right? Not at all. Pretend it's hydraulics, if it'll help. Not much happens if you hook _both_ sides to the high pressure line! You should be able to measure the resistance between the two pins of the clutch. Coupla ohms? Hook +12V AND GROUND to it and it should clack. If it doesn't, then yes indeed it is bad. It really sucks to replace a moderately expensive part only to find no change. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
Kumho --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: [MBZ] tires, again Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Didn't the ancient Greeks salt the fields of their conquered enemies so that nothing would grow? Easily available in bulk supply cheap...might want to use round up first, then salt...just a thought. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to kill everything and have it be dead all summer --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] killing weeds Kaleb C. Striplin writes: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. Dog urine seems to do a very effective job in our lawn. Not sure where you get a bulk supply though. Roundup or the chemical equivalent would be my choice. Note if you buy the concentrate, I've found that when diluted according to the label it works rather slowly, takes maybe a week for everything to die. Their ready-mix seems to be stronger, it will wilt the plants within hours and they are dead the next day or so. So if you buy the concentrate, maybe mix it a little stronger than they suggest if you are in a hurry. As others have mentioned, this does not prevent future growth, only kills what is already growing. Good if you want to kill a weed patch and then plant grass or flowers, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 223K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
I want to kill everything and have it be dead all summer --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] killing weeds Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. Dog urine seems to do a very effective job in our lawn. Not sure where you get a bulk supply though. Roundup or the chemical equivalent would be my choice. Note if you buy the concentrate, I've found that when diluted according to the label it works rather slowly, takes maybe a week for everything to die. Their ready-mix seems to be stronger, it will wilt the plants within hours and they are dead the next day or so. So if you buy the concentrate, maybe mix it a little stronger than they suggest if you are in a hurry. As others have mentioned, this does not prevent future growth, only kills what is already growing. Good if you want to kill a weed patch and then plant grass or flowers, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit
Thank you! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Stark Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit Dan, ED - Here is the info I sent to the list back when all the F.D. stuff was going on. I tried to reverse find the fellow from his phone and there appeared to be someone there, they reported data. I couldn't find anything on him on Ebay right now but then I'm not very E-bay literate. Barry - Dave - Here is some of the data I copied from his Ebay add. Barry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DaveC Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MB] results of diagnosis - the smoking gun Barry sez: Bob Contantino turned me onto a guy in Florida says he worked for Bosch in Germany and has 20 years experience rebuilding these things. He evidently still has a Bosch connection and can get internal parts. He will rebuild my distributor for $325 and says he replaces all internal parts. I imagine that's the soft parts and maybe the springs or whatever. Sounds like a good deal and it will be adjusted back to factory specs. So, don't keep us in suspense! Who is he? Dave -- generaltrading711 Rosmar Marcano 3599 Hendry Isles Blvd. Clewiston, FL 33440 USA 7862394745 Seller's payment instructions Customer will pay for shipping, Shipping thru UPS and USPS cost $25.50 including packing, and handling USA continental only. insurance is required $5.00 To ship same day the order must be received by noon time. Please call for international shipping if you have questions please call 786-218-6551 or 786-239-4745 Shipping Cost Services Available Service Transit Time* Available to US $25.50 UPS Ground 1 to 6 business days United States only US $25.50 US Postal Service Priority MailR2 to 3 business days United States only US $75.00 UPS Worldwide ExpeditedSM 2 to 5 business days Worldwide *Sellers are not responsible for service transit time. Transit times are provided by the carrier, exclude weekends and holidays, and may vary with package origin and destination, particularly during peak periods. Will ship to Worldwide. Shipping insuranceUS $5.00 Required WE REBUILT ALL MODELS 4 CYLINDER $275 + SHIPPING 6 CYLINDER $300 + SHIPPING 8 CYLINDER $325 + SHIPPING WE ARE THE LEADERS REMANUFACTURING BOSCH FUEL INJECTION UNITS PART IS ONLY FOR YOUR ORIGINAL MERCEDES BENZ UNITS ARE BENCH TESTED AND ADJUSTED TO FACTORY SPECS WE OFFER ONE-YEAR WARRANTY UNLIMITED MILEAGE Please read Carefully: TO ORDER THIS PRODUCT YOU WILL NEED TO: O BUY IT NOW O MAIL US YOUR CORE IN REBUILDABLE CONDITION O MAKE YOUR PAYMENT THRU PAYPAL OR MAIL A MONEY ORDER O INCLUDING YOUR SHIPPING, INSURANCE COST AND TAXES IF O YOU RESIDE IN FLORIDA. PLEASE NOTE THAT: 1. Once we receive your core we will send you the same one if we have it in stock or will rebuild yours as you decide. 2. Shipping money is not refundable 3. If you don't have the core you will need to send an additional $300.00 refundable until you send us the core. 4. You are not to open the parts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
Curt Raymond wrote: Of course... I'll try it again pulling the cable but... That I have 12v available still pretty much indicates a bad clutch right? Not really. Just ground the cable that goes to the temp sensor... Its top and center... right near the thermostat housing IIRC. That is the switch that normally turns on the clutch, so its a perfect way to test the clutch. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] tires, again
Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch
*Beats head on desk* Of course... I'll try it again pulling the cable but... That I have 12v available still pretty much indicates a bad clutch right? -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:39:06 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Electromagnetic fan clutch To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: Cheez whiz, I can't believe I forgot, its an '85 190D. Okay barring the fact that I need to flush the cooling system When I tested for power I got +12v on BOTH of the wires... Nothing between them... There is some bodgered wiring in the vicinity of where the wires from the clutch come back into the harness over between the powersteering pump and the valve cover. A mystery brown wire was added in at some point I think to force the A/C to come on while the ACC controller was disconnected (plug fell off, I found it because I thought the lights were out) this was all pre-me by the way. I'll dig some more tonight, maybe I'll pull one of the wires and put a ground on and see what happens. If you are measuring the voltage on the pins without disconnecting the wire from the fan and IF the switch complete the circuit to ground (and I believe that is the case in the '85 190D), then there WILL be 12V on both pins except when the switch is closed. Then there will be 12+V on one pin and less than 1 V on the other. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300e 2.8 wiring harness, 230 new car(s
I think the biodegradeable wiring came into the W124 line with the introduction of the M104 engine in 1993. The 2.8 should still be an M103, right? As for getting the dealer to pay for it, the only successful people I've heard of were the original owners and very good customers of the particular dealer, and the dealer took it upon themselves. I don't believe MB corporate has ever authorized a replacement. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 7/12/07, Nick Gough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I've not yet seen nor experienced a wiring harness issue with the bio-degradeable harness, was this malady possible on our car? It's a 1993 300E 2.8. Anyone have any good luck in getting MBUSA to pay for it? (Seems the comments on mercedesshop.com is quite lengthy.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't the ancient Greeks salt the fields of their conquered enemies so that nothing would grow? Easily available in bulk supply cheap...might want to use round up first, then salt...just a thought. Something in dog pee keeps the ground dead. We have dead spots all over the lawn. Maybe its salt (or ammonia?). -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Neutron bomb, alert the neighbors first. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I want to kill everything and have it be dead all summer --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] killing weeds Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. Dog urine seems to do a very effective job in our lawn. Not sure where you get a bulk supply though. Roundup or the chemical equivalent would be my choice. Note if you buy the concentrate, I've found that when diluted according to the label it works rather slowly, takes maybe a week for everything to die. Their ready-mix seems to be stronger, it will wilt the plants within hours and they are dead the next day or so. So if you buy the concentrate, maybe mix it a little stronger than they suggest if you are in a hurry. As others have mentioned, this does not prevent future growth, only kills what is already growing. Good if you want to kill a weed patch and then plant grass or flowers, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:54:46 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up. What if all three are off increments? I'm not quite sure how this could have come to be. IIRC, the linkages are threaded, unless you twisted them in their mounts the new bushings should just pop in and you're off to the races. No length or geometry changes at all. What splines? Did I miss something? Yes, he took the shift levers off the transmission to change the bushings. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Non chemical solution may be fire. I use a tiger torch attached to a 20# propane tank to kill the weeds on my gravel parking pad next to the garage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:40 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] killing weeds What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
Michelins are ok, but high-priced. Best price/value I have found is Conti Touring. The higher-end major brand tires are often ok, but are high-priced. Avoid Wal-mart/Sams. At 09:10 AM 7/13/2007, you wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far. On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
On 7/13/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelins are ok, but high-priced. Best price/value I have found is Conti Touring. I like how the Contis ride and handle, but they don't last in my experience. I like the mid-priced Dunlops, anything in the All-Season High Performance or All-Season Touring categories on tirerack.com. Currently have D60 Sports (I think---they superseded the D40M2, which was my favorite) on the 124. Smooth quiet ride and grip to match the suspension. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Questions for A/C wizards
I've been driving my Lincoln to work because the A/C in my 124 is acting up and the weather here's been unbearable. Today the lights on the climate control suddenly started blinking (indicating an error condition) and simultaneously the engine hiccupped. I immediately thought, Ack, low Freon, clutch must have locked up for an instant before the pressure switch told the computer to disengage it, I've got to catch it before it breaks the serpentine belt and turned off the A/C. I got to work without further incident and popped the hood to see if anything was obviously wrong. While contemplating the compressor in my usual half-awake morning state I suddenly realized, Hey, those service ports don't look right! Indeed they didn't. Some bozo apparently put on those screw-on McParts R12-to-R134a fittings in order to recharge the system with R134a, and didn't even bother to slap on a sticker under the hood indicating that a conversion (such as it is) had been done. I didn't notice before because the usual red and blue plastic caps aren't there. The absence of caps on the valves, however, made it clear where the leak was: the high side fitting was actually bubbling with oil and escaping refrigerant. So I guess I need to replace that one---hopefully it's just the R134A adapter that's bad, not the real R12 fitting underneath. But then what? I know all the concerns about decreasing A/C performance by using R134a in a system designed to use R12, but this is not a Mercedes A/C system where cooling capacity is already marginal---this is a Detroit system, that when functioning right makes the inside of the car feel like an Eskimo's meat locker, even in ambient temps over 100. I still want it to work right, though, and not introduce any new leaks if I can help it! And I have no way to know whether any seals have been replaced with R134a-compatible ones, or whether any other part of the conversion was done right. (I suspect not.) Questions: Should I replace the fitting and just go ahead and charge with R134A and the appropriate oil on top of whatever's already in there? Is there a conversion oil that I should be using as preferable to regular 134a-compatible oil for a retrofitted R12 system? Is there any additive I can put in that'll help with the seals? Or should I vacuum the whole system, replace the receiver/dryer, and refill with hydrocarbons (for test purposes!) a la Jim C.? Is doing the latter but not replacing the R/D living dangerously, or is what they say on the sites that sell HC refrigerants true, about moisture not being a big deal in a system thus pressurized? If I go with HC, should I take off the R134a conversion adapters, or is messing with those asking for trouble (possibly stressing the old R12 fittings and making them leak, necessitating replacement)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
If you do get occasional snow, check out the Nokian WR So far as I know it's still the only all season tire that is also rated as a snow tire, but they wear as long as most other all season tires http://www.nokiantires.com/en/tire_wr.aspx?season=summer In some places, if you get tangled up with another car on snowy surfaces, having the snow rating symbol on your tire can keep you from getting a ticket, and in some cases if you have the snow tires and the other guy doesn't, they'll rule it the other guys fault on the spot due to improper equipment for conditionsjust a thought. Personally I look at good tires for winter conditions as cheap insurance, costs about the same as an insurance deductable, and they're a lot more fun than spending the night in a ditch. and it only snows a couple of times a year here, but we usually get a nice dose of ice with it. Robert Allan Streib wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gump shift
Jim, the bushings are not in the cabin, but at the transmission. There are arms that fit to splines shaft out of the transmission. I removed those to get at the old bushing material and replace it. When I put it back on, I may have miss mounted by a few teeth on the shaft where it was marked to go. I used fingernail polish to mark the part position and it was a bit too wide to be precise. All while bits of oily dirt bits are falling into your mouth while cursing. On Jul 12, 2007, at 10:54 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Sorry, floor shift. The whole H pattern is off center and moved backward. If I am off a few splines would that screw it all up. What if all three are off increments? I'm not quite sure how this could have come to be. IIRC, the linkages are threaded, unless you twisted them in their mounts the new bushings should just pop in and you're off to the races. No length or geometry changes at all. What splines? Did I miss something? -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every Michelin I've ever owned. I have Dunlops on my bike, and they are far more popular among bike people than Michelins. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a biker suggest a Michelin in a conversation. Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far. On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
3 of the 4 Dunlops on my SDL slipped belts on the same weekend. It was a very rough, slow ride home. Wear is a tradeoff with traction. I prefer softer tires with traction and a 40k or so wearlife over longer lasting tires that send you into the ditch if you spit in front of them. IMHO, sticky tires are the cheapest and best insurance you can buy. Loren who has driven about 1.75 million miles without being off the road unintentionally. Maybe 1/3 in MB At 11:31 AM 7/13/2007, you wrote: On 7/13/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michelins are ok, but high-priced. Best price/value I have found is Conti Touring. I like how the Contis ride and handle, but they don't last in my experience. I like the mid-priced Dunlops, anything in the All-Season High Performance or All-Season Touring categories on tirerack.com. Currently have D60 Sports (I think---they superseded the D40M2, which was my favorite) on the 124. Smooth quiet ride and grip to match the suspension. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300e 2.8 wiring harness, 230 new car(s
Gary, Our 1993 300E 2.8 has the 104.942 engine in it. I've understood this problem to exist on W124 cars for 1994 1995 models and W202 cars from 1991-1997. Did it also occur on the W210 models? I checked the wiring that I could see without taking off the cap over the plugs on the twin-cam engine, and all appeared in fine shape, no degrading was/is apparent. My mechanic has also said he's not seen issues with it. If the issue did exist on our car, I'm wondering if the PO had them replaced under warranty or paid for the work? I'll go check the records this weekend... I have them stashed away at home. It was originally a leased car and was then purchased by them once the lease expired, since they liked the car so much. It spent its life in LA until they traded it in and the dealer put it on the auction block where a great used car shop I know of, acquired it. We bought it in 2003 and have really enjoyed it. Thx. Nick Gough Ohio 1993 300E 2.8 1977 230 Taxi 1997 Jetta -- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:38:20 -0500 From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1993 300e 2.8 wiring harness, 230 new car(s To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I think the biodegradeable wiring came into the W124 line with the introduction of the M104 engine in 1993. The 2.8 should still be an M103, right? As for getting the dealer to pay for it, the only successful people I've heard of were the original owners and very good customers of the particular dealer, and the dealer took it upon themselves. I don't believe MB corporate has ever authorized a replacement. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 7/12/07, Nick Gough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even though I've not yet seen nor experienced a wiring harness issue with the bio-degradeable harness, was this malady possible on our car? It's a 1993 300E 2.8. Anyone have any good luck in getting MBUSA to pay for it? (Seems the comments on mercedesshop.com is quite lengthy.) Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
I see a red door and I want it painted black. Brian On 7/13/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to kill everything and have it be dead all summer ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Between our dogs' digging and peeing, our lawn is pretty poor. So when we relegated them to a pen at the back of the yard in order to try to sell our house, we did not weed it, thinking they would decimate the weeds. They leave the weeds alone. I have wondered if non-neutered dogs have more caustic pee. I was going to ask how one could control weeds that grow up through a brick patio (non-mortared). Wonder if the torch idea would be good for us. Brian whose Doberman is part golden-reliever Allan wrote: Something in dog pee keeps the ground dead. We have dead spots all over the lawn. Maybe its salt (or ammonia?). -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I have had good service from Michelins, long miles on them, which I think must be due to a fairly hard compound. A hard compound is probably not the best for all-weather use, if I understand that soft is generally better in rain, snow, etc. Perhaps the mile warranty might be indicative of the hardness of the tire? --R LWB250 wrote: I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every Michelin I've ever owned. I have Dunlops on my bike, and they are far more popular among bike people than Michelins. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a biker suggest a Michelin in a conversation. Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far. On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
k --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] killing weeds I see a red door and I want it painted black. Brian On 7/13/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to kill everything and have it be dead all summer ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Shameless Plug
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Re: [MBZ] tires, again
On Jul 13, 2007, at 11:14 AM, LWB250 wrote: I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every Michelin I've ever owned. Although I've Michelins on the two diesel wagons, and a set of Yokohama Avids on the S class I did note Consumer reports they really liked the Goodyear tires in mostly no snow conditions http:// www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GoodyeartireModel=Assurance +TripleTred But I've not tried them, perhaps my next tire set. The S-Class usually had Michelins, the continental tire I want isn't offered in north america (europe only), I tried W rated Kumos but send the 4 back to tirerack since the guys doing the force balancing said they were all faulty and wouldn't balance. The last of Michelins I had on it when out of round, so were replaced earlier this year with Yokohama, undecided if ok yet, rubber certainly is way softer tho, reports say they are crummy in snow but the rule here is if it snows (rare event)) the s-class stays in the garage because the other clueless never driven in snow drivers might whack it no matter what tires it has on it. Fortunately the W123 and W124 are less picky about tires. John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 194k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was going to ask how one could control weeds that grow up through a brick patio (non-mortared). Wonder if the torch idea would be good for us. Torch burns off the foliage but does not kill the roots; they will grow back in short order. I think round-up would be good for what you describe. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
i'm of the feeling that i want tire to perform, first and foremost; if it won't do that well, i don't care how long they last! i've got Pirelli P3000 Cinturatos on the '85 300D right now that i'm happier with than the Michelins i had on there before these; i disliked the handling of those Michelins enough that i actually returned them. (i know it makes a difference, but sorry, i can't recall this many years later which model Michelin it was.) quiet, stable and comfortable, i don't have any issue with the Pirellis in the wet, but frankly i haven't a great deal of experience with them in the wet, either, as i'd typically be driving the J**p XJ given the choice of vehicles when things get sloppy. (OT warning; motorcycle content follows) FWIW, i have Michelins on my moto and love them (as do most who've tried them in a similar application); the Michelin Anakee is the best non-knobby tire i've had on the BMW GS, and while it wears slightly faster than the traditional GS favorite (the Metzler Tourance), the grip in wet and dry seems much better. for dirt use, the GS wears Continental TKC-80 knobbies (a.k.a. Twinduros); an amazing all around performer on and off pavement, but made of such a sticky rubber that they can go away fast in hard use under 800 lbs of machine and rider... cheers! e '85 300D '02 BMW GS Adventure LWB250 wrote: I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every Michelin I've ever owned. I have Dunlops on my bike, and they are far more popular among bike people than Michelins. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a biker suggest a Michelin in a conversation. Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far. On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 tranny??
I know many of you say a W123 diesel will go pretty much forever, but what about the average auto trans in a W123? How many miles are they good for if well taken care of, and on the flipside, at what mileage do problems start to show up in examples that haven't been so well loved? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
It is but a relaxing drive across I-80 for you (once you get far enough south). On 7/13/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
On 7/13/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer softer tires with traction and a 40k or so wearlife over longer lasting tires that send you into the ditch if you spit in front of them. IMHO, sticky tires are the cheapest and best insurance you can buy. Oh, I agree strongly! But my issue with the Continentals I've tried is that they seem to last half as long as tires of essentially equal stickiness and price. I only got 20K useful miles out of the last set, whereas Dunlops seem to last about twice as long---same car, same driver. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tranny??
Mine has about 250K on it, and I doubt if it was taken care of as I wish it had been. On 7/13/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know many of you say a W123 diesel will go pretty much forever, but what about the average auto trans in a W123? How many miles are they good for if well taken care of, and on the flipside, at what mileage do problems start to show up in examples that haven't been so well loved? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
On 7/13/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian Let's have it in Olympia at Casey's or Clay's place! That's more or less halfway between Portland and Seattle, and close enough for Jim too. You can pick up door prizes for everyone on the way down at the Benz Friendz going-out-of-business sale. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
ought to be enough of us. I say we go over to Jim's house and see how to weld microwave ovens and then use it to build gensets clay On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
SALE??!?? they are having a sale? I need stuff, lots of stuff. Wonder where I can hide it once I get it home. We had a yard sale a few weeks ago and nobody really wanted all the books we had out. Told the oldest boy he had to trade them in and could use the proceeds. Took four boxes of book to used book store. They bought three books. I still have four boxes of book, but the kid got $34.00. One book turns out to be a rare enough play that I saved years ago from the trash at university. He got $30 for this little pamphlet thing. I told him that would fill the tank in Gump On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 7/13/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian Let's have it in Olympia at Casey's or Clay's place! That's more or less halfway between Portland and Seattle, and close enough for Jim too. You can pick up door prizes for everyone on the way down at the Benz Friendz going-out-of-business sale. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
You can all sit around drinking coffee and listening to Kurt Cobain albums. :-) On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ought to be enough of us. I say we go over to Jim's house and see how to weld microwave ovens and then use it to build gensets clay On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SALE??!?? they are having a sale? On the mercedesshop.com bulletin board somebody said they were asking a Benjamin apiece for 240D manual trannies. Sounds like a sale to me. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
Coffee is an emetic and kobain makes me hurl On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: You can all sit around drinking coffee and listening to Kurt Cobain albums. :-) On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ought to be enough of us. I say we go over to Jim's house and see how to weld microwave ovens and then use it to build gensets clay On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
Dang, I could use a few manual trans. Never know if I will blow up the one I have. Going to be teaching my oldest boy to drive in Gump, and it would be great to have spares for when I get the car back. clay On Jul 13, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SALE??!?? they are having a sale? On the mercedesshop.com bulletin board somebody said they were asking a Benjamin apiece for 240D manual trannies. Sounds like a sale to me. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] free wheels
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/zip/373298637.html anybody need 17 AMG wheels? Dude has them for free -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] free wheels
On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/zip/373298637.html anybody need 17 AMG wheels? Dude has them for free Total insanity. If they're real AMGs they're worth, what, $2K? Even if replicas, should be able to flip them for $300 or so minimum. If I brought them home I would be gelded in a NY minute, though. Already have a set of 16 CLK wheels I'm trying to get out of the garage (they fit 124s and 201s, hint hint hint). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
Rainier and Hendrix, then. On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coffee is an emetic and kobain makes me hurl On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: You can all sit around drinking coffee and listening to Kurt Cobain albums. :-) On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ought to be enough of us. I say we go over to Jim's house and see how to weld microwave ovens and then use it to build gensets clay On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I put a pair of Jokohamas on a 124 and within a month one came apart on the interstate, and did $2500 damage to the car. no warranty or repair from Jokohama. You will NEVER find Jokohama on MY car ever again!!! At 04:35 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote: replaced earlier this year with Yokohama, undecided if ok yet, Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IowaQ date -- 8/18/07
That is more my era and speed. Get some of the home grown and Oberto On Jul 13, 2007, at 4:17 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Rainier and Hendrix, then. On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coffee is an emetic and kobain makes me hurl On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: You can all sit around drinking coffee and listening to Kurt Cobain albums. :-) On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ought to be enough of us. I say we go over to Jim's house and see how to weld microwave ovens and then use it to build gensets clay On Jul 13, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I see you waited 'til I moved away to have a Q around there. Anybody for a WA-Q? Oop, that woud be hijacking the thread. Nevermind. Brian On 7/13/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone who is planning to attend have a problem with scheduling it for 8/18/07? I'm busy on 8/25 and 9/1 is of course a long weekend. Location: Jefferson IA. http://jeffersoniowa.com/ -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] free wheels
On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/zip/373298637.html anybody need 17 AMG wheels? Dude has them for free Already deleted. Somebody made off like a bandit! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 tranny??
My 300 TD has about 230k on it when first gear would not engage from time to time about 3 years ago...cost to replace today is about 4 to 5k at a dealer in the US. Bill 1981 300 TD 325k about Wonko the Sane wrote: Mine has about 250K on it, and I doubt if it was taken care of as I wish it had been. On 7/13/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know many of you say a W123 diesel will go pretty much forever, but what about the average auto trans in a W123? How many miles are they good for if well taken care of, and on the flipside, at what mileage do problems start to show up in examples that haven't been so well loved? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
Wow. I would love to have a spare tranny for $100. I haven't heard of Benz Friendz before now. Sounds more like a WA-Q should be called WA-Brew. Have heard more talk of coffe than meat. And something called homegrown. Of course my type of brew would be the micro variety. Brian On 7/13/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SALE??!?? they are having a sale? On the mercedesshop.com bulletin board somebody said they were asking a Benjamin apiece for 240D manual trannies. Sounds like a sale to me. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:58:16 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SALE??!?? they are having a sale? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/371481874.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
I am in. We can have it at my place here in Olympia too, I have lots of room and some other cool old junk to ogle. Unimogs, turbodiesel vanagon, Haflinger, MB 406D delivery van... -Zach --- Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's have it in Olympia at Casey's or Clay's place! That's more or less halfway between Portland and Seattle, and close enough for Jim too. You can pick up door prizes for everyone on the way down at the Benz Friendz going-out-of-business sale. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
Ah, thank you for that information. Hopefully as a Japanese company which usually strive for zero defects any issue with tires exploding were addressed. Of course it's hard to know if it was a manufacturing issue or nail lurking for you that day. I would think if it was widespread we would have heard more about it like the exploding Firestone Ford Explorer mess. Even a few tires exploding now can get NHTS to wake up like say for http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/27/autos/chinese_tire_recall/index.htm I note the warranty seems to be 60 months in the USA, but on only 4 years or 100K km in canada, that and they cheerfully take no responsibility outside of any issue than the tire, I'm not sure any other tire company would assume responsibility for other damages either? Well all of which doesn't make you a happy consumer either... On Jul 13, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: I put a pair of Jokohamas on a 124 and within a month one came apart on the interstate, and did $2500 damage to the car. no warranty or repair from Jokohama. You will NEVER find Jokohama on MY car ever again!!! At 04:35 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote: replaced earlier this year with Yokohama, undecided if ok yet, Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 126 wheels
I have 6 extra 126 15 hole wheels it looks like I won't be needing now. Anyone interested, send me an email offlist. From what I can tell, the going price is $25 each. One set of 4 was repainted last year Of the other pair, one has good paint and the other could use a repaint, but is not the ugliest I have seen. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] anyone need a nice 4x4 pickup?
Brother-in-law Gene has purchased John Robbins' 190D, so is selling his sweet Dodge 4x4 pickup. EBay 190131911392. Really nice truck but does sip the petrol more than one would want to support. Don -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I have NOT been pleased with any Contis I've tried in the last 20 years. They don't last and their traction on light snow in NIL. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
Marshall Booth wrote: I have NOT been pleased with any Contis I've tried in the last 20 years. One of my cars came with a pair of new Conti touring tires. Don't remember where they were made, but I do remember it was not Germany. They both went egg shaped on me within 30k. I can't remember the last time another tire went out of round. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 wagon at pick-a-part in Olympia WA
The taillights and reversing lights are always worth grabbing. - Original Message - From: Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: [MBZ] w123 wagon at pick-a-part in Olympia WA There is a W123 300TD at the pick a part near the airport in Olympia WA, motor and tranny are gone but the hydraulic struts, rear calipers, and some other wagon-specific bits are still there. FYI. -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I have Kumhos on 3 of the 4 MBs now - and so far they're great tires - but I haven't had any of them any longer than two years/20k miles. They are quiet, sticky, and do fine in the rain. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
Interesting. I guess there is no consensus, which is why everyone hates oil and tire threads on the list. Conti is the only brand and have never had a slipped belt with. I will admit that 20-30 years ago, when Eurotire was in business, I always bought German made Contis. I am not sure I trust American made Contis, but so far so good. I think I have 8 or 10 of them on various cars with no problems so far. As I stated previously, I trust softer tires much more than hard tires. I used to deliver papers in the mud and snow on gravel roads, which is about the worst punishment for a tire. The Contis never failed. I have always found them good in snow and ice, but again, I do NOT buy the high end tires, but the touring or S-T rated tires for my Diesels, and even the Ford van and the Datsun pickup. H or V tires are entirely different. I have little experience with high speed tires. For me the midrange Contis have delivered high reliability, and a very good price/value ratio. Another thing that makes a big difference is size. We had an old set of Hercules tires on a farm truck for 30 years. They were 7.50- 17 and although they didn't have much traction, they never failed. This truck would make several 400 mile trips a year, and shorter ones. Almost every other 7-50-17 we had on various trucks would come apart long before they wore out. In every other size, the tire dealers had trouble with Hercules truck tires. Our old Hercules tires were on the truck when it was underwater in the Flood of '73 before we bought it. Loren Bowing to Herr Booth and to Mitch, acknowledging their dissimilar results. At 08:19 PM 7/13/2007, you wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: I have NOT been pleased with any Contis I've tried in the last 20 years. One of my cars came with a pair of new Conti touring tires. Don't remember where they were made, but I do remember it was not Germany. They both went egg shaped on me within 30k. I can't remember the last time another tire went out of round. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 wagon at pick-a-part in Olympia WA
Oh shoot, I remember seeing it in the pen. IIRC, that was a fairly nice rig. On 7/13/07, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a W123 300TD at the pick a part near the airport in Olympia WA, motor and tranny are gone but the hydraulic struts, rear calipers, and some other wagon-specific bits are still there. Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Questions for A/C wizards
I've owned 2 300Es and I converted both to 134a. I was not happy with either conversion and would not have except I had to break into the systems anyway. Considering the fact that you don't know what has been done to your system and you don't even know what oil is in the system, I sugges thay you dump purge the system. Then recharge with the correct oil and R134a. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 7/13/07 11:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Questions for A/C wizards I've been driving my Lincoln to work because the A/C in my 124 is acting up and the weather here's been unbearable. Today the lights on the climate control suddenly started blinking (indicating an error condition) and simultaneously the engine hiccupped. I immediately thought, Ack, low Freon, clutch must have locked up for an instant before the pressure switch told the computer to disengage it, I've got to catch it before it breaks the serpentine belt and turned off the A/C. I got to work without further incident and popped the hood to see if anything was obviously wrong. While contemplating the compressor in my usual half-awake morning state I suddenly realized, Hey, those service ports don't look right! Indeed they didn't. Some bozo apparently put on those screw-on McParts R12-to-R134a fittings in order to recharge the system with R134a, and didn't even bother to slap on a sticker under the hood indicating that a conversion (such as it is) had been done. I didn't notice before because the usual red and blue plastic caps aren't there. The absence of caps on the valves, however, made it clear where the leak was: the high side fitting was actually bubbling with oil and escaping refrigerant. So I guess I need to replace that one---hopefully it's just the R134A adapter that's bad, not the real R12 fitting underneath. But then what? I know all the concerns about decreasing A/C performance by using R134a in a system designed to use R12, but this is not a Mercedes A/C system where cooling capacity is already marginal---this is a Detroit system, that when functioning right makes the inside of the car feel like an Eskimo's meat locker, even in ambient temps over 100. I still want it to work right, though, and not introduce any new leaks if I can help it! And I have no way to know whether any seals have been replaced with R134a-compatible ones, or whether any other part of the conversion was done right. (I suspect not.) Questions: Should I replace the fitting and just go ahead and charge with R134A and the appropriate oil on top of whatever's already in there? Is there a conversion oil that I should be using as preferable to regular 134a-compatible oil for a retrofitted R12 system? Is there any additive I can put in that'll help with the seals? Or should I vacuum the whole system, replace the receiver/dryer, and refill with hydrocarbons (for test purposes!) a la Jim C.? Is doing the latter but not replacing the R/D living dangerously, or is what they say on the sites that sell HC refrigerants true, about moisture not being a big deal in a system thus pressurized? If I go with HC, should I take off the R134a conversion adapters, or is messing with those asking for trouble (possibly stressing the old R12 fittings and making them leak, necessitating replacement)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Questions for A/C wizards
Just replace the schrader valves in the fittings and get new caps, vacuum it down and recharge and you'll be back to looking for a jacket in no time. Those screw on fittings are the standard for retrofit. They generally have some high strengh loctite type stuff on the threads so they can't be removed very easily without damaging the threads on the original fitting. This is a requirement to prevent tampering. Ford AC systems are pretty stout, no worries about r134a not cooling enough. AC systems are the one thing the 'merican cars have up on everyone else. If it's an ofifice tube system instead of an expansion valve system, and you're in a hot climate, you might want to consider putting a variable orifice valve in the thing. They work nicely ( they don't do much up north in cooler climates ) Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: I've been driving my Lincoln to work because the A/C in my 124 is acting up and the weather here's been unbearable. Today the lights on the climate control suddenly started blinking (indicating an error condition) and simultaneously the engine hiccupped. I immediately thought, Ack, low Freon, clutch must have locked up for an instant before the pressure switch told the computer to disengage it, I've got to catch it before it breaks the serpentine belt and turned off the A/C. I got to work without further incident and popped the hood to see if anything was obviously wrong. While contemplating the compressor in my usual half-awake morning state I suddenly realized, Hey, those service ports don't look right! Indeed they didn't. Some bozo apparently put on those screw-on McParts R12-to-R134a fittings in order to recharge the system with R134a, and didn't even bother to slap on a sticker under the hood indicating that a conversion (such as it is) had been done. I didn't notice before because the usual red and blue plastic caps aren't there. The absence of caps on the valves, however, made it clear where the leak was: the high side fitting was actually bubbling with oil and escaping refrigerant. So I guess I need to replace that one---hopefully it's just the R134A adapter that's bad, not the real R12 fitting underneath. But then what? I know all the concerns about decreasing A/C performance by using R134a in a system designed to use R12, but this is not a Mercedes A/C system where cooling capacity is already marginal---this is a Detroit system, that when functioning right makes the inside of the car feel like an Eskimo's meat locker, even in ambient temps over 100. I still want it to work right, though, and not introduce any new leaks if I can help it! And I have no way to know whether any seals have been replaced with R134a-compatible ones, or whether any other part of the conversion was done right. (I suspect not.) Questions: Should I replace the fitting and just go ahead and charge with R134A and the appropriate oil on top of whatever's already in there? Is there a conversion oil that I should be using as preferable to regular 134a-compatible oil for a retrofitted R12 system? Is there any additive I can put in that'll help with the seals? Or should I vacuum the whole system, replace the receiver/dryer, and refill with hydrocarbons (for test purposes!) a la Jim C.? Is doing the latter but not replacing the R/D living dangerously, or is what they say on the sites that sell HC refrigerants true, about moisture not being a big deal in a system thus pressurized? If I go with HC, should I take off the R134a conversion adapters, or is messing with those asking for trouble (possibly stressing the old R12 fittings and making them leak, necessitating replacement)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
Micro, java, meat sticks, a little bud, some cheez doodles, might have some crystal if out by Tacoma, bioD, and car parts for swapping.. Benz friendz is in Georgetown area, with the warehouse on Airport way, shop on Flora Ave On Jul 13, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Wow. I would love to have a spare tranny for $100. I haven't heard of Benz Friendz before now. Sounds more like a WA-Q should be called WA-Brew. Have heard more talk of coffe than meat. And something called homegrown. Of course my type of brew would be the micro variety. Brian On 7/13/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SALE??!?? they are having a sale? On the mercedesshop.com bulletin board somebody said they were asking a Benjamin apiece for 240D manual trannies. Sounds like a sale to me. Alex Chamberlain -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
Damn, now I have to get a line of credit Wonder if I can hide some parts under the chicken coop On Jul 13, 2007, at 5:07 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:58:16 -0700 Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SALE??!?? they are having a sale? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/371481874.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
It was in a bar in Seattle that I was introduced into the art of eating four skins. On 7/13/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micro, java, meat sticks, a little bud, some cheez doodles, might have some crystal if out by Tacoma, bioD, and car parts for swapping.. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] four skins was WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
It was in a bar in Seattle that I was introduced into the art of eating four skins. I know what a foreskin is, but WTF is a four skin?? Inquiring minds want to know... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 wheels
What year are they for? On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:51:06 -0500, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 6 extra 126 15 hole wheels it looks like I won't be needing now. Anyone interested, send me an email offlist. From what I can tell, the going price is $25 each. One set of 4 was repainted last year Of the other pair, one has good paint and the other could use a repaint, but is not the ugliest I have seen. Loren Faeth -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] four skins was WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
We'll hope it wasn't that type of bar. Now, is four skins that deal where the stuff a duck inside a chicken inside a turkey? No, that's Turducken. And people laugh at Tofurkey. Brian On 7/13/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was in a bar in Seattle that I was introduced into the art of eating four skins. I know what a foreskin is, but WTF is a four skin?? Inquiring minds want to know... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] four skins was WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
A Chief Petty Officer who worked for me and I (I was a LT) were at a bar during Happy Hour. We were in Seattle for a computer conference. We asked what the munchies were, and the waitress answered, Potato Skins. I asked for a plate and she suggested two helpings, one for me and one for the CPO. I consented. She turned to the cook and screamed, FOUR SKINS. The Chief Petty Officer about died because he was taking a big drink of the local beer when these words were uttered. D. On 7/13/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was in a bar in Seattle that I was introduced into the art of eating four skins. I know what a foreskin is, but WTF is a four skin?? Inquiring minds want to know... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I've never been fond of michelins either. They last a long time, but they're just plain squirilly. I've had about the same luck with Yokohamas. I had a set of those on a car for over 80k miles, but they scared me half to death when it rained or on a mountain road ---Robert LWB250 wrote: I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every Michelin I've ever owned. I have Dunlops on my bike, and they are far more popular among bike people than Michelins. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a biker suggest a Michelin in a conversation. Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far. On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
On Jul 13, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Interesting. I guess there is no consensus, which is why everyone hates oil and tire threads on the list. The sad thing is that oil is a $50 and 5K miles decision roughly, where as tires are a $500 (or much more) and 50K mile decision and the oil you bought last year is the same stuff, but those tires from 4 years back aren't available anymore and the new ones are made in china? John 1983 300TDt 386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 198k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 184k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] four skins was WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
Don... ROFLMAO.. Chuck On Jul 13, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: A Chief Petty Officer who worked for me and I (I was a LT) were at a bar during Happy Hour. We were in Seattle for a computer conference. We asked what the munchies were, and the waitress answered, Potato Skins. I asked for a plate and she suggested two helpings, one for me and one for the CPO. I consented. She turned to the cook and screamed, FOUR SKINS. The Chief Petty Officer about died because he was taking a big drink of the local beer when these words were uttered. D. On 7/13/07, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was in a bar in Seattle that I was introduced into the art of eating four skins. I know what a foreskin is, but WTF is a four skin?? Inquiring minds want to know... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] four skins was WA-Q (was: IowaQ date)
Don... ROFLMAO.. Chuck DITTO!!! Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
