Re: [MBZ] I've gone and done it
should have been called the crawler :-D Hahahahahaha! It's a cool van though, and it's built very well. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 870mi, no name yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I've gone and done it
Sorry, I beat you to the punchline there. Perhaps you could name it the slug, or Star Box once you get the star up front. Kevin Kraly wrote: should have been called the crawler :-D Hahahahahaha! It's a cool van though, and it's built very well. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 870mi, no name yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
One thing that I took note of is how fast your oil gauge pegged upon startup. I'm guessing that's going to be a feature of Mobil 1? Or were you already in fast-forward filming mode at that point? My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Brian On 8/15/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] greasercar
Maybe there's someone on the street you don't like that you could give it to then? Or perhaps you'd like to invest and make it look just like new! (: Levi On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I parked that thing on my street, the neighbors would be out front with torches and a rope. For me. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
No, the speakers and amp were put in by the PO. It didn't come with a radio though, so I found one down in the basement that fit in there, then just put in an rca jack switch to plug in my ipod. (: Curious though, what exactly did you see as far as speakers go? That's like the one thing I don't notice. (: Levi On 8/15/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say butt ugly except I don't want to insult my butt. Did ya do that custom speaker installation yourself or take it to a shop? :-) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
No, I only sped up the sections on the road. The oil gauge is pretty much up to max immediately, and as I recall it was like that with regular oil when I first got the car. I believe after it warms up it will drop to around a bar at idle. Levi On 8/16/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that I took note of is how fast your oil gauge pegged upon startup. I'm guessing that's going to be a feature of Mobil 1? Or were you already in fast-forward filming mode at that point? My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Brian On 8/15/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Are you looking for just the Benz parts or the Greasecar parts? I'm still not at all sure what it's worth, but I see the greasecar kit is about $1K now, so I might potentially think about selling them separately... Though at this point, I think I'm getting an 01-03 Prius and if that's the case, my fallback is that it's worth about $1k in trade to a dealer who's got a wrecked Prius I could use for spare parts. Though I think he just wants the engine... But I'm still waiting for another couple weeks to see if I somehow managed to win a new one from over in Ithaca... Of course if that happens then I won't be as worried about how much I get out of the car... (: Levi On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be interested in it for a parts car for my TD but not at that kind of price..Let me know when it gets to parts car price or you want to sell parts. Or if you wanted to trade for something maybe we could work something out. Mike Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't figured out what these are worth so I'm probably on crack but I'm going to start off asking for $3000, but please feel free to make any offers if you're interested. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/levigsmith/sets/72157601403895227 Video can be found here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v957832fNWNF55B Which includes part of a drive. If you want to see the entire 13 minute trip around the block, that's here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9578674FHDJhSS Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!
Oooh! Ouch! Reminds me, of when I worked at a shipyard, during safety orientation, they showed some photos of women during WW2 getting their hair caught in drill presses and being essentially scalped; Not a pretty sight - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! Power drills + Mary-Jane + Long hair = a close intimate look at the chuck, as it snugged up against my head in a real hurry. Required more smoke to fully contemplate my errors. On 8/14/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summer makes good sun and gets warm for us cold weather people in wet climate, so after an hour sweating, I figured I was able to control my power tool, drink beer for hydration and stay cool. Power drills with wire wheels spinning at 3500 rpm will very quickly travel across the belly leaving a bloody trail in their path. Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spotted at my indy today...
I have abook that goes over the history if the 600 - a truely awesome car. The windows are raised and lowered Hydraulically - silent movement up an down. *Everything* was built in a bigger scale, even the hood star. They also keep wood samples at the factory like used in each 600 so the *exact* woodgrain can be matched should a repair part be needed. Other parts like leather seat components are kept just in case. It's powered by the 6.3L engine IIRC. There were several bodystyles - SWB coupe, LWB Coupe and Laudelet -- like the Pope rides in. Check out http://www.mbgrand600.com/ -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotted at my indy today... hydraulic driver's door latch to come from der Fatherland, to the tune of $5900. That's pure insanity! That one part is worth over double the value of my SD! It seems like a vital part since the driver's door probably won't stay closed without it. In what years was the 600 Grosser built? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Dodge Sprinter PV, 800mi, soon to be badged as a Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil gauge was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Brian wrote: My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Really? Mine pegs out almost instantly and I don't use Mobil 1. I think it did the same thing in my 1990 300D 2.5. I thought all Mercedes would peg out (3+) when they are first started and then they will go down a little after running for a while and getting hot Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 139K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I can buy a whole computer for $3 at the university junk sale next week. I just forgot to go today until it was too late, and I don't want to wait a week. Don't get too excited, the $3 computers are PII and things like the G3 266 TO Wonko: Yes it is 266 Mhz, but unlike 266 on windows, a 266 G3 will run OS 9 or OS 10, illustrator and other Adobe software just fine. IN fact these will replace G3 233 machines that are performing satisfactorily. They were just so cheap, that I told them they should get into these and add some drive space and dvd capability. These also have way more memory that their old machines. My old Powerbook 165 with a 68030 processor and Office 6 still works just fine. It is just a little slow on the startup of Office 6. Word 5.1 is much faster. A few years ago I went to a printer that was still using a 1986 Mac SE and OS 3 or some such thing as the primary graphics machine. It did all they need to do. Business is different than gamers. in a business, as long as the machine works, it will be used. I go into lots of businesses that are still running Win 3.1.1 machines for certain purposes. Sometimes even old dos programspre-windows... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Both actually. I could use a good transmission for the TD and i would love to change it over to the greasecar kit as i have about 300 gallons of WVO laying around just waiting to be put to good use. I have my 83 SD with a good running engine in it.(less miles than yours) i could throw in on the deal if that guy is interested in a good engine. Actually the SD is a much prettier looking car with a bad transmission. I bet he'd offer the same $1000 for the SD if all he needs is a good engine.It really does look pretty...lol My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] send me your adress and I'll take a ride over your way sometime and chat about it. Mike Are you looking for just the Benz parts or the Greasecar parts? I'm still not at all sure what it's worth, but I see the greasecar kit is about $1K now, so I might potentially think about selling them separately... Though at this point, I think I'm getting an 01-03 Prius and if that's the case, my fallback is that it's worth about $1k in trade to a dealer who's got a wrecked Prius I could use for spare parts. Though I think he just wants the engine... But I'm still waiting for another couple weeks to see if I somehow managed to win a new one from over in Ithaca... Of course if that happens then I won't be as worried about how much I get out of the car... (: Levi On 8/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be interested in it for a parts car for my TD but not at that kind of price..Let me know when it gets to parts car price or you want to sell parts. Or if you wanted to trade for something maybe we could work something out. Mike Well, I guess it's about time to officially say that my car is for sale since I've still got a 97' Subaru to sell besides this and there's a *chance* I might be able to at least trade that one in and I'm planning on getting a Prius of some sort in less than 2 months. So... It's an 83' 300D with a Greasecar kit installed. (Start on diesel until it's warmed up, then switch to veggie, and switch back to diesel a minute before you shut it off.) Car is not pretty and the trunk is very oily. But it runs reliably. Starter is about a year old, exhaust is only a few months old, except that the flex piece broke off so it's a bit louder than stock though certainly not unbearable. Tires are mismatched and lousy(barely legal). I've got at least 2, if not 5 other tires that are at least decent that I would toss in. Keyless entry Vaccuum works other than not holding vacuum for more than a few minutes after shutoff. (and potentially the ACC vent). ACC works as well as I assume it should. Seems like it keeps more air on the windshield than it's supposed to, but it's never been a problem. AC is cool as usual(not COLD). It's fine on the highway, but if it's 90F out and you're sitting still, you're probably going to get warm. Cruise works AM/FM/Amp with ipod jack(or whatever you want to plug in) moonroof works windows work with the exception of a flaky left rear which I believe is some loose wires since it started acting up after I pushed it past a slight bit of resistance that I believe to be wires that were caught. tach is dead (though I've got a spare tach sending unit if you want to mess with it) odo is at the hold in the button to keep it rolling phase It's had Mobil 1 15w-50 for the last year or so that I've owned it. New battery this past winter Some rust spots popping up, but nothing structural yet. Hella Euro headlights with +50 bulbs. I've added electric fuel pumps for both the diesel and veg sides. I get about 1000 miles between veg filter changes. Which is around how often I refill with diesel. I'll include about 10 more veg filters for the car and a set of spare diesel filters I'm also including my filtering setup (heated barrel with jeans/pump/goldenrod filter) and about 5 more goldenrod filters Also including about 100 gallons of filtered wvo ready to go. If you want a veggie supplier in Addison, NY you can take over mine. Including a MB Service Manual CD, and a Haynes repair manual. Few spare parts like starters, alternator, head, egr valve, thermostat, speedo... think that's most of it. Can't say for sure if they're any good or not. I think the car has around 400K miles on it and the engine has about 300K on it. I've also got a spare set of wheels with Blizzaks on them that were only used for about a month this past winter. I think I'll try to sell those separately, but for the right price I might include them. Basically, the car doesn't look great, but it runs good and you can do a lot of driving for free. But it can be messy and time consuming to collect and filter the fuel and I'm tired of monkeying with it so I'm getting a Prius. I'm located near Corning, NY. I really haven't
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
I've heard from several people who really liked the 12 iBook (G4). No longer made, the smallest macBook (Intel CPU) is now 13 I think, but you might find them used. They are coveted so the prices might be inflated. Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil gauge was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
That's what i thought too..that's what mine do. Mike Brian wrote: My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Really? Mine pegs out almost instantly and I don't use Mobil 1. I think it did the same thing in my 1990 300D 2.5. I thought all Mercedes would peg out (3+) when they are first started and then they will go down a little after running for a while and getting hot Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 139K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Mac laptops, was G3 parts
The small G4 powerbooks are great. If you want really cheap, I'll sell you my PB165, but it has to use an external modem or wireless device. No pcmcia slots. It does have an internal 14.4 modem. I use a small ibook on the road. I have the MS remote desktop client on it, so I can connect to any windows box and run windows on it via RDC. Intel based Macbook or Macbook pro can run both windows and OS 10 (and linux) but they are larger. At 08:29 AM 8/16/2007, you wrote: Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I can buy a whole computer for $3 at the university junk sale next week. I just forgot to go today until it was too late, and I don't want to wait a week. Don't get too excited, the $3 computers are PII and things like the G3 266 TO Wonko: Yes it is 266 Mhz, but unlike 266 on windows, a 266 G3 will run OS 9 or OS 10, illustrator and other Adobe software just fine. IN fact these will replace G3 233 machines that are performing satisfactorily. They were just so cheap, that I told them they should get into these and add some drive space and dvd capability. These also have way more memory that their old machines. My old Powerbook 165 with a 68030 processor and Office 6 still works just fine. It is just a little slow on the startup of Office 6. Word 5.1 is much faster. A few years ago I went to a printer that was still using a 1986 Mac SE and OS 3 or some such thing as the primary graphics machine. It did all they need to do. Business is different than gamers. in a business, as long as the machine works, it will be used. I go into lots of businesses that are still running Win 3.1.1 machines for certain purposes. Sometimes even old dos programspre-windows... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil gauge was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
My 240D pegs right away but my 300D 2.5 takes a second or two to go up. FWIW Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Oil gauge was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale Brian wrote: My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Really? Mine pegs out almost instantly and I don't use Mobil 1. I think it did the same thing in my 1990 300D 2.5. I thought all Mercedes would peg out (3+) when they are first started and then they will go down a little after running for a while and getting hot Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 139K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Tom wrote:if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. On a more serious note - even though we talk lightly about this stuff, non-gun people should understand how incredibly serious we take the responsibility of carrying a CW or using a gun to protect ourselves and possible hurt or kill someone. It's not something we take lightly. We don't look for an opportunity to shoot someone and typically we will back down until there's no place to go - or another person is in danger. None of us is looking for a gunfight or will pull a gun in an argument over a parking space. Don;t want anyone to get the wrong idea. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Unfortunately, I'm from a state (NY) where you can be convicted of manslaughter for shooting someone in your own house. In NY State, if you kill someone in your home and you had a path of escape (back door, etc.) or if you kill an invader with a handgun he only had a knife then you will be prosecuted will likely be found guilty. Fortunately, I now live in a state (Alabama) that believes you have the right to PROTECT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and if need be, can shoot an invader. And if he happens to die from a gaping 45 ACP wound, it's considered a result of his own actions and HIS FAULT. And if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid, but still dead. The police report usually states no charges filed everything is dropped. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! One should also make sure the perp falls into the house. Even if you have to help him in once he is limp. Makes for a better defense. clay On 13 Aug 2007, at 15:15, Donald Snook wrote: Clay wrote: This needs to be on the quotes page with Mr. Snook Esq. tag line. Advice for client's of his? Actually, I got that advice from someone who cleaned up crime scenes. The police in Springfield, Missouri would often recommend this guy when someone needed an especially gruesome scene cleaned. As to the advice to my clients I remember some wise words from one of professors. He used to give a lecture to neighborhood watch groups about gun safety and crime prevention. He said if somebody is in your house and you have to shoot them to protect your family - don't shoot them in the leg make sure you kill them. You don't want to piss the guy off and you don't want him to sue you if he lives. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/953 - Release Date: 8/14/2007 5:19 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!
You wrote:drink beer for hydration I'm sure it was meant in a light-hearted way, but in case someone doesn;t know, beer and other alcoholic beverages do not rehydrate. Actually, they *de*-hydrate. A bad thing in the summer heat. Supposed to be 101 today - not something I look forward to - Drinking lots of beer this time of year will do more harm than good. The good part is, you'll ride to the hospital with a smile on your face. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! Well, I have not yet done something in need of urgent medical attention. I have done stupid things most recently with wire wheels though. Was working on getting the old finish off Bundt wheels. Let me tell you, the brake dust is not inclined to come off without a fight. A big fight is the PO has not been diligent about keeping up on cleaning wheels. I have to resort to a number of wire wheels, both brass and really owchy steel. I could do this by hand, but the carpal tunnel hands do not like that, so I use the big old power drill and extensions. Being in a small home with no place inside to make a huge mess, I have to use the driveway and sunny days. Summer makes good sun and gets warm for us cold weather people in wet climate, so after an hour sweating, I figured I was able to control my power tool, drink beer for hydration and stay cool. Power drills with wire wheels spinning at 3500 rpm will very quickly travel across the belly leaving a bloody trail in their path. This leads to much loud noise on the part of the operator. Much exposure of surface layers of winter blubber and removal of epidermal fur. Beer does wonders to wash it off and deaden pain by ingestion. It also will convince operator that he will not repeat said mistake. Which he will do post haste while applying torque and body english to the bundt wheel in an attempt to get stubborn paint and brake dust off. AT this point the operator desists from further wire wheel work and goes inside to soak a sore bloody tummy in ice water and applies gauze and bactine. On 13 Aug 2007, at 17:04, LWB250 wrote: I had a similar situation once when I was using my radial arm saw. It had an accessory drive on the right side for things like a drum sander, etc. I had the drum sander on it one time when I needed to cut something off. I mistakenly crossed my arms to hold the work while I pulled the saw across it, at the same time running the edge of the drum into the middle of the top of my right forearm. Ouch. In all honesty, it was one of those injuries where you sit there and look at it for a minute, incredulous at what you just did. It gouged a groove into my arm about 2 long and about a half inch deep at the center. I calmly placed my right hand over it to apply pressure, walked upstairs past the wife, who was preparing dinner in the kitchen, informing her that I had cut myself and would be going to the emergency room. I drove myself to the hospital (one of two in our small Wisconsin town of 50,000) and walked in to the emergency room. The physician on duty that night also moonlighted as our company doctor, so I had seen him before in the infirmary at the plant. Want me to numb you before I sew this up? Nahh. Have at it, doc. Double ouch. FWIW, he only had to put about 10 stitches in, and by the time he would have finished numbing me up, he would have been done with the sutures. Still hurt like heck, though. And I will say that I am sure we have all, present company included, been thrashed severely at the pillory of DIYness, admit it or not. It just part of the process. Dan --- Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another story about having a finger that got caught in a chain hoist sewed back together sans any deadening, but it's not a story about some dumbshit thing I did, except maybe the part about opting to have it sewed up without any deadening. It was quite an experience, one that I remember well an do not want to repeat. Neither the caught in chain hoist nor the sewing up. Robert. Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! Casey wrote: Hi, my name is Casey, and I'm an idiot. Donald typed: It cut me between my thumb and index - badly. It immediately started bleeding. It was bad, but I had to finish the sink or we have no water in the bathroom. So, I wrapped it up as well as I could and went back to working on the faucet. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Larry, I understand non gun people. I have several friends who ask me to never bring handguns out around them or their children because handguns terrify them. I even did an experiment once - I placed an unloaded 45 ACP on my coffee table in anticipation of a friend stopping over. He was absolutely terrified when he saw the handgun. I even showed that it was unloaded offered to hand him the handgun butt first and he backed up in terror. My friend proved to me that at least some of the population is afraid of handguns themselves. Odd thing is that I've not yet heard of a handgun killing anyone but I hear of people using handguns to kill people all the time. I'm convinced that the gun control battle reaches much deeper than most of us realize. I believe that most anti-gun activists are driven by misunderstanding and outright fear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Tom wrote:if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. On a more serious note - even though we talk lightly about this stuff, non-gun people should understand how incredibly serious we take the responsibility of carrying a CW or using a gun to protect ourselves and possible hurt or kill someone. It's not something we take lightly. We don't look for an opportunity to shoot someone and typically we will back down until there's no place to go - or another person is in danger. None of us is looking for a gunfight or will pull a gun in an argument over a parking space. Don;t want anyone to get the wrong idea. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Unfortunately, I'm from a state (NY) where you can be convicted of manslaughter for shooting someone in your own house. In NY State, if you kill someone in your home and you had a path of escape (back door, etc.) or if you kill an invader with a handgun he only had a knife then you will be prosecuted will likely be found guilty. Fortunately, I now live in a state (Alabama) that believes you have the right to PROTECT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and if need be, can shoot an invader. And if he happens to die from a gaping 45 ACP wound, it's considered a result of his own actions and HIS FAULT. And if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid, but still dead. The police report usually states no charges filed everything is dropped. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! One should also make sure the perp falls into the house. Even if you have to help him in once he is limp. Makes for a better defense. clay On 13 Aug 2007, at 15:15, Donald Snook wrote: Clay wrote: This needs to be on the quotes page with Mr. Snook Esq. tag line. Advice for client's of his? Actually, I got that advice from someone who cleaned up crime scenes. The police in Springfield, Missouri would often recommend this guy when someone needed an especially gruesome scene cleaned. As to the advice to my clients I remember some wise words from one of professors. He used to give a lecture to neighborhood watch groups about gun safety and crime prevention. He said if somebody is in your house and you have to shoot them to protect your family - don't shoot them in the leg make sure you kill them. You don't want to piss the guy off and you don't want him to sue you if he lives. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Maybe we should change the rules: Friends don't discuss religion, politics and guns. I am not afraid of guns, I worked for a few years assembling 38 specials at Colt Mfg. That being said, I have no place in my home for a working gun, I do own G/G'pa's civil war Remington. I've seen too much grief caused by guns that were bought to protect life and family. -- Pete Arnold New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket - water, but without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink, or juice. You want flavored water? Pour some Maker's Mark over ice and let it melt. That's my flavored water. Amen! On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 10:05:04 -0500, you wrote: Larry, I understand non gun people. I have several friends who ask me to never bring handguns out around them or their children because handguns terrify them. I even did an experiment once - I placed an unloaded 45 ACP on my coffee table in anticipation of a friend stopping over. He was absolutely terrified when he saw the handgun. I even showed that it was unloaded offered to hand him the handgun butt first and he backed up in terror. My friend proved to me that at least some of the population is afraid of handguns themselves. Odd thing is that I've not yet heard of a handgun killing anyone but I hear of people using handguns to kill people all the time. I'm convinced that the gun control battle reaches much deeper than most of us realize. I believe that most anti-gun activists are driven by misunderstanding and outright fear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Tom wrote:if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. On a more serious note - even though we talk lightly about this stuff, non-gun people should understand how incredibly serious we take the responsibility of carrying a CW or using a gun to protect ourselves and possible hurt or kill someone. It's not something we take lightly. We don't look for an opportunity to shoot someone and typically we will back down until there's no place to go - or another person is in danger. None of us is looking for a gunfight or will pull a gun in an argument over a parking space. Don;t want anyone to get the wrong idea. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Unfortunately, I'm from a state (NY) where you can be convicted of manslaughter for shooting someone in your own house. In NY State, if you kill someone in your home and you had a path of escape (back door, etc.) or if you kill an invader with a handgun he only had a knife then you will be prosecuted will likely be found guilty. Fortunately, I now live in a state (Alabama) that believes you have the right to PROTECT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and if need be, can shoot an invader. And if he happens to die from a gaping 45 ACP wound, it's considered a result of his own actions and HIS FAULT. And if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid, but still dead. The police report usually states no charges filed everything is dropped. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! One should also make sure the perp falls into the house. Even if you have to help him in once he is limp. Makes for a better defense. clay On 13 Aug 2007, at 15:15, Donald Snook wrote: Clay wrote: This needs to be on the quotes page with Mr. Snook Esq. tag line. Advice for client's of his? Actually, I got that advice from someone who cleaned up crime scenes. The police in Springfield, Missouri would often recommend this guy when someone needed an especially gruesome scene cleaned. As to the advice to my clients I remember some wise words from one of professors. He used to give a lecture to neighborhood watch groups about gun safety and crime prevention. He said if somebody is in your house and you have to shoot them
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago I went to a printer that was still using a 1986 Mac SE and OS 3 or some such thing as the primary graphics machine. It did all they need to do. Business is different than gamers. in a business, as long as the machine works, it will be used. In my experience the opposite is more often true, unfortunately. Too often the powers that be mandate upgrades for no other reason than to stay current or some such mumbo-jumbo. Then a perfectly functional system gets replaced with something flashy and new that doesn't work as well. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
an interesting thing about the knife in a gunfight is a study that was done regarding the ability of police to respond to a knife wielding perp charging them from 21 feet (the distance that is the outside of acceptable shooting range against a perp not armed with a firearm). who has the advantage? obviously, it's a trick question. turns out to be a 50/50 proposition. half the cops could draw and shoot before being stabbed by the charging knife attacker and half could not. seems the old bowie knife in the right hands is more dangerous than most of you could imagine. CCW holders are not gun yahoos looking for fast draw at high noon. to my mind, being armed is a matter of accepting responsibility for the safety of yourself and others. there will be no columbine or va tech around me. you will not rob the store i am shopping in. etc. here in georgia, we don't have any of this va tech or dc sniper nonsense. if some nutter takes out a firearm and starts firing at passing cars, someone just shoots him. go into a diner in rural georgia waving a pistol and making threats and demands -- your life expectancy would be about 8 seconds at that moment. it is my personal belief that any man who does not carry a gun is absolutely shirking his civic responsibilities. the welfare/nanny state and its supporters obviously have a far different view. On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote:if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. On a more serious note - even though we talk lightly about this stuff, non-gun people should understand how incredibly serious we take the responsibility of carrying a CW or using a gun to protect ourselves and possible hurt or kill someone. It's not something we take lightly. We don't look for an opportunity to shoot someone and typically we will back down until there's no place to go - or another person is in danger. None of us is looking for a gunfight or will pull a gun in an argument over a parking space. Don;t want anyone to get the wrong idea. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Unfortunately, I'm from a state (NY) where you can be convicted of manslaughter for shooting someone in your own house. In NY State, if you kill someone in your home and you had a path of escape (back door, etc.) or if you kill an invader with a handgun he only had a knife then you will be prosecuted will likely be found guilty. Fortunately, I now live in a state (Alabama) that believes you have the right to PROTECT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and if need be, can shoot an invader. And if he happens to die from a gaping 45 ACP wound, it's considered a result of his own actions and HIS FAULT. And if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid, but still dead. The police report usually states no charges filed everything is dropped. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! One should also make sure the perp falls into the house. Even if you have to help him in once he is limp. Makes for a better defense. clay On 13 Aug 2007, at 15:15, Donald Snook wrote: Clay wrote: This needs to be on the quotes page with Mr. Snook Esq. tag line. Advice for client's of his? Actually, I got that advice from someone who cleaned up crime scenes. The police in Springfield, Missouri would often recommend this guy when someone needed an especially gruesome scene cleaned. As to the advice to my clients I remember some wise words from one of professors. He used to give a lecture to neighborhood watch groups about gun safety and crime prevention. He said if somebody is in your house and you have to shoot them to protect your family - don't shoot them in the leg make sure you kill them. You don't want to piss the guy off and you don't want him to sue you if he lives. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege
Re: [MBZ] Spotted at my indy today...
On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They also keep wood samples at the factory like used in each 600 so the *exact* woodgrain can be matched should a repair part be needed. Other parts like leather seat components are kept just in case. I noticed glancing inside this one that there was a lot more wood than other '60s Benzes. In particular the cowl over the instrument panel appeared to have been carved from a solid block of burl! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
In reverse, you don't have a *Putty* G3 Tower case around anywhere do you? Have a G3 desktop, but have always wanted to put it into a Tower. The really funny thing is the board is actually out of a G3 All in One and not the original Desktop board anyway. I used to have a Rev B ROM, if I can track it down, but I keep thinking it didn't work or something. I hunted down and upgraded to a Rev C for a very specific reason, that might be it. Don't remember at this point. Ed On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Mac G3 266 tower I am trying to fix up for a graphics company. It has a rev A motherboard. A Rev B or C has a ROM dim that will support both master and slave IDE drives. I wanted to add a second hard drive and a dvd burner to it in addition to the cd rom, but the Rev A ROM dimm only supports master and no slave drives. Anybody have a Beige G3 with a Rev B or higher board that you would sell me the ROM dimm out of? I think all the 300 or faster G3s were most likely a Rev B board. The ROM dimm from a blue and white G3 may also work, but I am not sure. Alternatively, anyone got a used IDE PCI card for sale? Preferably one known to work on Macs. Dejavu all over again. My Apple II has a Rev A motherboard, and all were supposed to have been replaced under warranty. It only supported 64k of ram. By the time I figured out the prob, Apple no longer would replace it. I had to look for years to find a cheap enough ramcard to boost it. Puke Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Gary, What you are eluding to in the knife verses handgun is reaction time. It's the same with knives, handguns, Tia Kwon Do and baseball bats. Your only chance is to get the drop on the bad guy. This is why I've been noted to creep down the hall, naked, with a loaded handgun. If the shock don't give me the edge at least my Wife does not have to throw away a shirt because it has a bullet hole in it. Also, I 100% agree with you in regards to civic duty. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= an interesting thing about the knife in a gunfight is a study that was done regarding the ability of police to respond to a knife wielding perp charging them from 21 feet (the distance that is the outside of acceptable shooting range against a perp not armed with a firearm). who has the advantage? obviously, it's a trick question. turns out to be a 50/50 proposition. half the cops could draw and shoot before being stabbed by the charging knife attacker and half could not. seems the old bowie knife in the right hands is more dangerous than most of you could imagine. CCW holders are not gun yahoos looking for fast draw at high noon. to my mind, being armed is a matter of accepting responsibility for the safety of yourself and others. there will be no columbine or va tech around me. you will not rob the store i am shopping in. etc. here in georgia, we don't have any of this va tech or dc sniper nonsense. if some nutter takes out a firearm and starts firing at passing cars, someone just shoots him. go into a diner in rural georgia waving a pistol and making threats and demands -- your life expectancy would be about 8 seconds at that moment. it is my personal belief that any man who does not carry a gun is absolutely shirking his civic responsibilities. the welfare/nanny state and its supporters obviously have a far different view. On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom wrote:if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. On a more serious note - even though we talk lightly about this stuff, non-gun people should understand how incredibly serious we take the responsibility of carrying a CW or using a gun to protect ourselves and possible hurt or kill someone. It's not something we take lightly. We don't look for an opportunity to shoot someone and typically we will back down until there's no place to go - or another person is in danger. None of us is looking for a gunfight or will pull a gun in an argument over a parking space. Don;t want anyone to get the wrong idea. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Unfortunately, I'm from a state (NY) where you can be convicted of manslaughter for shooting someone in your own house. In NY State, if you kill someone in your home and you had a path of escape (back door, etc.) or if you kill an invader with a handgun he only had a knife then you will be prosecuted will likely be found guilty. Fortunately, I now live in a state (Alabama) that believes you have the right to PROTECT YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY and if need be, can shoot an invader. And if he happens to die from a gaping 45 ACP wound, it's considered a result of his own actions and HIS FAULT. And if he was only carrying a knife when he broke in? Then he's incredibly stupid, but still dead. The police report usually states no charges filed everything is dropped. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot! One should also make sure the perp falls into the house. Even if you have to help him in once he is limp. Makes for a better defense. clay On 13 Aug 2007, at 15:15, Donald Snook wrote: Clay wrote: This needs to be on the quotes page with Mr. Snook Esq. tag line. Advice for client's of his? Actually, I got that advice from someone who cleaned up crime scenes. The police in Springfield, Missouri would often recommend this guy
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
You can take the Greasecar kit out to sell itself and just *give* me the rust err rest of the car. Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20
Pete Arnold New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket - water, but without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink, or juice. You want flavored water? Pour some Maker's Mark over ice and let it melt. That's my flavored water. Amen! And the choir sang with gusto, A- MEN! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speedo accuracy
There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I've gone and done it
On 8/16/07, Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I beat you to the punchline there. Perhaps you could name it the slug, or Star Box once you get the star up front. No no no, anything that big needs to be called something like Lars -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Brian, I wouldn't be real worried about how long the oil needle takes. My 3 cars have all been different, my 190D takes by far the longest, the 300TD I had took the least and the 240D was in the middle. The thing I noticed was how much harder his car started thany my 190D but thats relative, when I first got my 240D and it was all carboned up with a half stuck open thermostat it took even longer... -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:35:26 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One thing that I took note of is how fast your oil gauge pegged upon startup. I'm guessing that's going to be a feature of Mobil 1? Or were you already in fast-forward filming mode at that point? My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Brian - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
I thought I saw a speaker hanging down from under the dash, by the console? Maybe it was my imagination. On 8/16/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious though, what exactly did you see as far as speakers go? That's like the one thing I don't notice. (: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
A G3 clamshell iBook runs around $100 and you can get up to I think 500mhz and they're cute as heck. My wife has one that plays music for on of the rooms in her Massage Therapy practice. Probably though for actual use a Pismo might be a better deal. The clamshell iBooks are a bit bulky, the snow model that followed is much smaller. -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:29:14 -0500 From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Hmm, no speakers there that I'm aware of... There are other things hanging around there though depending on what sides or whereabouts... (: On 8/16/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I saw a speaker hanging down from under the dash, by the console? Maybe it was my imagination. On 8/16/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious though, what exactly did you see as far as speakers go? That's like the one thing I don't notice. (: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20
Sure there is, there's beer flavored water, coffee flavored water, Cola flavored water. Then there's the Marketing weenies trying to convince is that their new flavored water is better than the other flavored waters than have been around a while. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 12:30 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Pete Arnold New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket - water, but without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink, or juice. You want flavored water? Pour some Maker's Mark over ice and let it melt. That's my flavored water. Amen! And the choir sang with gusto, A- MEN! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O/T Ford Brake LIne
I'm replacing front brake line on my '95 ford. Got everything loose. Having a devil of a time removing the sheet metal clip on the back side of the flex line. It wont Slide Off as I have done in the past. I'm missing something stupid. MAybe I should get out my 44 Remington. BTW; about 30 years ago I fired that old girl. Lotsa smoke and noise and a grand kick. I had only loaded 1 round, missed a 5 gallon pail at about 30 feet. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
On 8/16/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A G3 clamshell iBook runs around $100 Really? Where? A couple of years ago they cost more than a Pismo or Lombard on the used market despite their smaller screens and lack of PC Card slots. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil gauge was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Donald Snook wrote: Brian wrote: My oil gauges move up to around 1 bar after a couple seconds or so after startup, then stay there for around five seconds, then go ahead and move up to pegged. Really? Mine pegs out almost instantly and I don't use Mobil 1. I think it did the same thing in my 1990 300D 2.5. I thought all Mercedes would peg out (3+) when they are first started and then they will go down a little after running for a while and getting hot The oil pressure response time is a function of oil viscosity, engine wear, filter condition AND the condition of the O rings (part # 015-997-94-48) on the oil filter cap stem (the really do need to be changed every 20-30kmi). Once the harden the no longer serve their intended function. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Allan Streib wrote: There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan There is NO assurance that the sign is accurate. They vary more than 10% in my experience. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
The iBook is cute and does fine. The older versions were mostly G3 up to 900Mhz and then changed over to G4. They hold value, so will be expensive to acquire. Might as well go for a newer intel sort for getting support and newest goodies. If you find a laptop for under $400, grab it. I would expect the Powerbook G4 Aluminum 12 to be at that price point. On 16 Aug 2007, at 06:29, Gary Thompson wrote: Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I can buy a whole computer for $3 at the university junk sale next week. I just forgot to go today until it was too late, and I don't want to wait a week. Don't get too excited, the $3 computers are PII and things like the G3 266 TO Wonko: Yes it is 266 Mhz, but unlike 266 on windows, a 266 G3 will run OS 9 or OS 10, illustrator and other Adobe software just fine. IN fact these will replace G3 233 machines that are performing satisfactorily. They were just so cheap, that I told them they should get into these and add some drive space and dvd capability. These also have way more memory that their old machines. My old Powerbook 165 with a 68030 processor and Office 6 still works just fine. It is just a little slow on the startup of Office 6. Word 5.1 is much faster. A few years ago I went to a printer that was still using a 1986 Mac SE and OS 3 or some such thing as the primary graphics machine. It did all they need to do. Business is different than gamers. in a business, as long as the machine works, it will be used. I go into lots of businesses that are still running Win 3.1.1 machines for certain purposes. Sometimes even old dos programspre-windows... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you find a laptop for under $400, grab it. I would expect the Powerbook G4 Aluminum 12 to be at that price point. I just saw one on eBay that was over $700 with 8 hours left to go. Is it possible to get *any* bargains on eBay anymore? Seems like prices go through the roof on almost everything there. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Wonder how far off the radar guns the cops use are. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy Allan Streib wrote: There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan There is NO assurance that the sign is accurate. They vary more than 10% in my experience. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 86 300SDL
Howdy, Found a subject car - silver, 200K, all records, engine, tranny, AC all in very good condition. Needs detailing and a couple very small tears in the seats. Sheepskins on the front seats so couldn;t seee them very well - tires and wheels good except the wheels are chromed (Yuck) Asking ~$3900 but will deal. What's it worth - I know, Kaleb says $200. How about a more common selling price?Any majoy problems to watch out for? He also has a white 300SD W140 but haven't gotten a price yet. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
Well eBay of course. I did a search and theres still plenty at that price but you of course need to be careful. Saw one just like my wife's which I'm now sure is actually a 366mhz for a $219 starting bid, that guy is on crack... -Curt Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:14:19 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8/16/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A G3 clamshell iBook runs around $100 Really? Where? A couple of years ago they cost more than a Pismo or Lombard on the used market despite their smaller screens and lack of PC Card slots. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 86 300SDL
On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, Found a subject car - silver, 200K, all records, engine, tranny, AC all in very good condition. Needs detailing and a couple very small tears in the seats. Sheepskins on the front seats so couldn;t seee them very well - tires and wheels good except the wheels are chromed (Yuck) Asking ~$3900 but will deal. What's it worth - I know, Kaleb says $200. How about a more common selling price?Any majoy problems to watch out for? Yowza! I don't think I've ever seen a silver SDL. What color is the interior? Where is the car located? I might be interested if you pass on it. As far as things to look for--- good cooling system maintenance (mandatory) and head replacement (desirable) as with any 603 car. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spotted at my indy today...
Burled walnut is actually the root, and I believe is only used to veneer te plywood backing. On 8/16/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They also keep wood samples at the factory like used in each 600 so the *exact* woodgrain can be matched should a repair part be needed. Other parts like leather seat components are kept just in case. I noticed glancing inside this one that there was a lot more wood than other '60s Benzes. In particular the cowl over the instrument panel appeared to have been carved from a solid block of burl! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Under CA law, they're supposed to calibrate it before and after they use it on someone. They use a tuning fork to do so, IIRC. On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:47:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Wonder how far off the radar guns the cops use are. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
I looked again. Guess it is some sort of gauge. Thought it was a tweeter just hanging out there. On 8/16/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, no speakers there that I'm aware of... There are other things hanging around there though depending on what sides or whereabouts... (: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 86 300SDL
3900 is not bad. Just watch out for the head being cracked. Best to look at it after it has cooled off and set overnight. If any pressure in tank, it could be cracked. Been on the lookout for a 140 SD --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] 86 300SDL Howdy, Found a subject car - silver, 200K, all records, engine, tranny, AC all in very good condition. Needs detailing and a couple very small tears in the seats. Sheepskins on the front seats so couldn;t seee them very well - tires and wheels good except the wheels are chromed (Yuck) Asking ~$3900 but will deal. What's it worth - I know, Kaleb says $200. How about a more common selling price?Any majoy problems to watch out for? He also has a white 300SD W140 but haven't gotten a price yet. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Wonder how far off the radar guns the cops use are. The radar guns used by large departments MUST be calibrated frequently. Even the finding of one gun seriously out of calibration or even lack of paper work to prove when it was last calibrated can result in ALL of the traffic convictions that depended on that gun being overturned. I'm not sure that small jurisdictions are as careful. Last time I checked, in Pennsylvania only the PA State Police are authorized to use radar. The legislature threatens to change that every few years, but they can never get a majority to approve it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
I had my 76 115 300D speedo checked this spring due to a photoradar ticket. It was surprisingly accurate. Not perfect, but actually very good. I can't lay my hands on the document right now or I would tell you exactly how much it was out. They tested at something like 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 mph and they wer all very close to the actual speed. The test was not expensive either. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy Allan Streib wrote: There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan There is NO assurance that the sign is accurate. They vary more than 10% in my experience. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
The old ones used a tuning fork to verify calibration, the new ones self calibrate. If the gun reads 80 MPH, you can pretty much guarantee you were ging 80 MPH. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 02:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Under CA law, they're supposed to calibrate it before and after they use it on someone. They use a tuning fork to do so, IIRC. On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 01:47:48PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Wonder how far off the radar guns the cops use are. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 86 300SDL
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, Found a subject car - silver, 200K, all records, engine, tranny, AC all in very good condition. Needs detailing and a couple very small tears in the seats. Sheepskins on the front seats so couldn;t seee them very well - tires and wheels good except the wheels are chromed (Yuck) Asking ~$3900 but will deal. What's it worth - I know, Kaleb says $200. How about a more common selling price?Any majoy problems to watch out for? Yowza! I don't think I've ever seen a silver SDL. What color is the interior? Where is the car located? I might be interested if you pass on it. As far as things to look for--- good cooling system maintenance (mandatory) and head replacement (desirable) as with any 603 car. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo Only California certified '86 SDLs had traps so head cracking was quite infrequent on US certified '86 SDLs. 90% of the head cracking was the result of heat stresses caused by the trap. Just removing the trap doesn't get you home free though. The head may crack when the trap is on but not actually fail for months or years after the trap is removed. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 FSM
Hi, All. Who has the 124 manuals on line? I've been gifted with 260E with 5 good cyls. and one dead one. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD 260E - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
Quite true. A 12 PowerBook actually has more value in the market than it's bigger cousins. They have quite a following, which I never fully understood. I guess there are folks out there who like power in small packages. As for me, I like the larger 15 and 17 screen sizes, only the 17 models push the envelope of portability, IMHO. MacDan 15 CD MBP 20 CD iMac 17 C2D iMac 14 G3 iBook --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard from several people who really liked the 12 iBook (G4). No longer made, the smallest macBook (Intel CPU) is now 13 I think, but you might find them used. They are coveted so the prices might be inflated. Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
an rca jack switch to plug in my ipod. This is an issue with my Sprinter as well since it doesn't have an ipod jack. Are you referring to the type that hooks into the antenna cable for FM modulation? This would work in my situation although I may just swap the old deck for a better one that's also Ipod compatible. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 870mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
IMHO, if you want the best $$ for your budget, buy a MacBook refurb from the Apple Store online. You can get a heck of a deal and the machine is as-new with all the latest software and full Apple warranty. For example: Refurbished MacBook 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - White 13.3-inch glossy widescreen display 1GB memory 80GB hard drive Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW) Built-in iSight camera $949.00 MacDan --- Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Greasecar for sale
Well, in the Benz case the PO installed an amp, so I just put an RCA jack switch inline between the radio and the amp. Without an amp, the easiest options are cassette tape adapters or FM transmitters. It's been a while since I've done the tape deck, but I've had trouble finding any FM transmitters that sounded very decent at all. That's what I use when I have to, but it's not near as good. The FM modulators that plug in the antenna cable would definitely be better but more work... Levi On 8/16/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an rca jack switch to plug in my ipod. This is an issue with my Sprinter as well since it doesn't have an ipod jack. Are you referring to the type that hooks into the antenna cable for FM modulation? This would work in my situation although I may just swap the old deck for a better one that's also Ipod compatible. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 870mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
You know, I noticed the same thing recently: My speedo read anywhere from 2 - 5 mph higher than the scare-and-embarrass-you mobile roadside unit. For some reason, I assumed my speedo was the incorrect unit. It helped explain to a certain extent the tailgaiting I receive every day. Actually I am in favor of almost any means of forcing mindless drivers to behave though. Brian On 8/16/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ipod Jacks (was Re: 83' 300D Greasecar for sale)
I haven't had any luck with the FM transmitters either, but the tape adapters did work well. The Sprinter doesn't have a tape player, but the SD does as well as my parents' TC minivan and motorhome. Their HHR does have an Ipod jack as does our boat which is tied into the aux. input. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 870mi, Lars? Gretel? Any other suggestions? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
I've noticed that my 123 will always get hit, but my 126s wouldn't. I checked many a time late at night. I'd make sure there wasn't anyone within 1/2 mile either direction, then drive by it at various speeds. Never would it register me in the 126, always in the 123. Wierd. Luther On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:02:12 -0500, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course, which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take it as well. I believe the thinking behind having us take the class as kids was to make us respect and understand how to treat a firearm, and also how to be safe if we had them around. I'm not afraid of guns by any means, but I don't hunt or shoot recreationally, so there is no need to have one around the ranch. Dan --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, I understand non gun people. I have several friends who ask me to never bring handguns out around them or their children because handguns terrify them. I even did an experiment once - I placed an unloaded 45 ACP on my coffee table in anticipation of a friend stopping over. He was absolutely terrified when he saw the handgun. I even showed that it was unloaded offered to hand him the handgun butt first and he backed up in terror. My friend proved to me that at least some of the population is afraid of handguns themselves. Odd thing is that I've not yet heard of a handgun killing anyone but I hear of people using handguns to kill people all the time. I'm convinced that the gun control battle reaches much deeper than most of us realize. I believe that most anti-gun activists are driven by misunderstanding and outright fear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spotted at my indy today...
Heh. Just curious. Thought there might be some listmembers closer than I was aware of... Dan --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, Polk county, IA Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Tom Hargrave wrote: The old ones used a tuning fork to verify calibration, the new ones self calibrate. My local Sheriff uses some very old looking (mid-late 1980s I believe) radar guns in moving mode. I asked for calibration records and was told that it tested itself every time it was turned on, and if it said it was OK that was good enough for government work. They never use the tuning forks either. I'll have to write down the model number next time I'm in their parking lot, I think they were KAL units, and IIRC they transmit on X band. The state either gave them a grant for new units or gave them obsolete state police units once upon a time, and they will keep using them for eternity, or until they get newer ones for free. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
LWB250 wrote: Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course, which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take it as well. It's far easier to gun proof your kids than it is to kid proof the world. But just try to set up a presentation of NRA's Eddie Eagle program in the local elementary school and watch the idiots go into full auto assault mode. (the basic lesson from Eddie Eagle is don't touch it, go find an adult, so I don't know why the leftists hate it so) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NIce Older iBooks
OWC (Other World Computing) is a long-time Mac retailer that does some refurbishing. For those who might be looking for an older Mac for a bargain, here are this week's listings for iBooks: http://eshop.macsales.com/search/aplibg4?source=hdb0816 These folks are really good at what they do, and being one of the few remaining Apple resellers (like Small Dog) they are still around for a reason.. MacDan Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 FSM
You might find what you need here. Nice gift by the way. :-) http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html Ed 300E On 16/08/07, Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All. Who has the 124 manuals on line? I've been gifted with 260E with 5 good cyls. and one dead one. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD 260E - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20
so when you go to a burger joint and get a really watery Cola, is that water flavored cola, or cola flavored water ? :-) Ed 300E On 16/08/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure there is, there's beer flavored water, coffee flavored water, Cola flavored water. Then there's the Marketing weenies trying to convince is that their new flavored water is better than the other flavored waters than have been around a while. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 12:30 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Pete Arnold New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket - water, but without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink, or juice. You want flavored water? Pour some Maker's Mark over ice and let it melt. That's my flavored water. Amen! And the choir sang with gusto, A- MEN! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
what if sombody is breaking in your house and you need to protect the family, then what? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course, which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take it as well. I believe the thinking behind having us take the class as kids was to make us respect and understand how to treat a firearm, and also how to be safe if we had them around. I'm not afraid of guns by any means, but I don't hunt or shoot recreationally, so there is no need to have one around the ranch. Dan --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, I understand non gun people. I have several friends who ask me to never bring handguns out around them or their children because handguns terrify them. I even did an experiment once - I placed an unloaded 45 ACP on my coffee table in anticipation of a friend stopping over. He was absolutely terrified when he saw the handgun. I even showed that it was unloaded offered to hand him the handgun butt first and he backed up in terror. My friend proved to me that at least some of the population is afraid of handguns themselves. Odd thing is that I've not yet heard of a handgun killing anyone but I hear of people using handguns to kill people all the time. I'm convinced that the gun control battle reaches much deeper than most of us realize. I believe that most anti-gun activists are driven by misunderstanding and outright fear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20
Mine was definitely Diet Cola flavored water at lunch. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20 so when you go to a burger joint and get a really watery Cola, is that water flavored cola, or cola flavored water ? :-) Ed 300E On 16/08/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure there is, there's beer flavored water, coffee flavored water, Cola flavored water. Then there's the Marketing weenies trying to convince is that their new flavored water is better than the other flavored waters than have been around a while. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 12:30 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] handguns the now flavored H20 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Pete Arnold New Rule: There's no such thing as flavored water. There's a whole aisle of this crap at the supermarket - water, but without that watery taste. Sorry, but flavored water is called a soft drink, or juice. You want flavored water? Pour some Maker's Mark over ice and let it melt. That's my flavored water. Amen! And the choir sang with gusto, A- MEN! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Yeah, I never quite understood that, either. While my Dad only had one gun in his whole life (a .22 revolver) he was a strong believer in education when it came to guns. His attitude was that if you weren't afraid of them you would be far less likely to hurt someone or yourself with one. I shot competition air rifle in high school, and I always had a trigger lock on my rifle when it was not in use. Some of my team members thought I was looney. I still have a vintage Benjamin .22 air pistol in the house, and it's secured and trigger locked. Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course, which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take it as well. It's far easier to gun proof your kids than it is to kid proof the world. But just try to set up a presentation of NRA's Eddie Eagle program in the local elementary school and watch the idiots go into full auto assault mode. (the basic lesson from Eddie Eagle is don't touch it, go find an adult, so I don't know why the leftists hate it so) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Bang, and if he's still moving then Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Click, Click, Click, Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law what if sombody is breaking in your house and you need to protect the family, then what? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law Never had guns in the house, but a requirement for all of us as kids was to take the NRA gun safety course, which I thought was a good idea. I had my kids take it as well. I believe the thinking behind having us take the class as kids was to make us respect and understand how to treat a firearm, and also how to be safe if we had them around. I'm not afraid of guns by any means, but I don't hunt or shoot recreationally, so there is no need to have one around the ranch. Dan --- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, I understand non gun people. I have several friends who ask me to never bring handguns out around them or their children because handguns terrify them. I even did an experiment once - I placed an unloaded 45 ACP on my coffee table in anticipation of a friend stopping over. He was absolutely terrified when he saw the handgun. I even showed that it was unloaded offered to hand him the handgun butt first and he backed up in terror. My friend proved to me that at least some of the population is afraid of handguns themselves. Odd thing is that I've not yet heard of a handgun killing anyone but I hear of people using handguns to kill people all the time. I'm convinced that the gun control battle reaches much deeper than most of us realize. I believe that most anti-gun activists are driven by misunderstanding and outright fear. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
I have an alarm system. And I'm not going to give in to the bit about worrying about a home intrusion where I live. It is almost unheard of. If I lived in a rural area away from others, I would definitely have a personal firearm or two in the house. It's just not something I feel I would ever need where I am now. Of course, like Texas and Georgia, we can shoot intruders here (Florida) and not be held liable. Dan --- Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what if sombody is breaking in your house and you need to protect the family, then what? Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 FSM
Those are improved front ends, which are lovely and work much better than the Flash mess on the CDs (especially on OSX and Linux), but not the FSM pages themselves, which is I believe what Fred is asking for. On 8/16/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might find what you need here. Nice gift by the way. :-) http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html Ed 300E On 16/08/07, Frederick Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All. Who has the 124 manuals on line? I've been gifted with 260E with 5 good cyls. and one dead one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
An alarm system is a great early warning system. The alarm will wake you up so that you have a chance to use your handgun, should the need arise. The best alarm system is one that flashes the light on off in your bedroom - I designed installed one of these. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law I have an alarm system. And I'm not going to give in to the bit about worrying about a home intrusion where I live. It is almost unheard of. If I lived in a rural area away from others, I would definitely have a personal firearm or two in the house. It's just not something I feel I would ever need where I am now. Of course, like Texas and Georgia, we can shoot intruders here (Florida) and not be held liable. Dan --- Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what if sombody is breaking in your house and you need to protect the family, then what? Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quite true. A 12 PowerBook actually has more value in the market than it's bigger cousins. They have quite a following, which I never fully understood. I guess there are folks out there who like power in small packages. As for me, I like the larger 15 and 17 screen sizes, only the 17 models push the envelope of portability, IMHO. You can't go much bigger than a 12 and have it usable in a coach seat on an airplane. I had a 15 PowerBook at a prior job and was unable to unfold it and use it on the tray table in most airplane seats. I could sort of use it in my lap but had to have it open at an acute angle and tilted. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
No, but I can get you one easy enough. You willing to pay freight from 50014? At 11:33 AM 8/16/2007, you wrote: In reverse, you don't have a *Putty* G3 Tower case around anywhere do you? Have a G3 desktop, but have always wanted to put it into a Tower. The really funny thing is the board is actually out of a G3 All in One and not the original Desktop board anyway. I used to have a Rev B ROM, if I can track it down, but I keep thinking it didn't work or something. I hunted down and upgraded to a Rev C for a very specific reason, that might be it. Don't remember at this point. Ed On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Mac G3 266 tower I am trying to fix up for a graphics company. It has a rev A motherboard. A Rev B or C has a ROM dim that will support both master and slave IDE drives. I wanted to add a second hard drive and a dvd burner to it in addition to the cd rom, but the Rev A ROM dimm only supports master and no slave drives. Anybody have a Beige G3 with a Rev B or higher board that you would sell me the ROM dimm out of? I think all the 300 or faster G3s were most likely a Rev B board. The ROM dimm from a blue and white G3 may also work, but I am not sure. Alternatively, anyone got a used IDE PCI card for sale? Preferably one known to work on Macs. Dejavu all over again. My Apple II has a Rev A motherboard, and all were supposed to have been replaced under warranty. It only supported 64k of ram. By the time I figured out the prob, Apple no longer would replace it. I had to look for years to find a cheap enough ramcard to boost it. Puke Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
The easiest way to check your speedo is with a hand-held GPS. The GPS gives an instant reading that's a lot easier than holding a constant speed between mile markers. I use the hand-held GPS I bought for boating. My 1982 300SD read about 3mph high but I reinstalled the needle 3MPH low last time I had it apart. It's electrical and I also notices there is a trimming resister for adjusting the reading (actually a pretty amazing piece of German electro-mechanical equipment). My 79 300TD (all mechanical) also reads a few mph high. My new 2008 Subaru reads 1-2 mph at highway speed. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 13:02 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy There's a school zone near where I work, and they have one of those automatic radar signs that display how fast you are driving. I noticed when I drive through there in my 300D that the displayed speed is 3 - 4 MPH lower than what my speedo says. Is this typical, and which speed is more likely to be correct? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
On 8/16/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't go much bigger than a 12 and have it usable in a coach seat on an airplane. Yet another reason why IBM T-series Thinkpads are the only Windows laptops worth using, too. They fit on airplane trays like they grew there. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 Info
Ed and Alex. Ta very much for the info. The gifter is my youngest daughter's best friend and I'm sort of in loco parentis. The gift was a surprise as I've been her reality reference vs. mechanics for some time. ( Something wrong with that statement, somehow.) Again, Ta very much. Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD 260E - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Mid-80's isn't the old stuff I was talking about. You have to go back even further, into the 70's. Radar guns back then were always on from the time the trooper plugged it in until he unplugged it at the end of his shift. They had to be to stay warmed up to be accurate. The tuning fork stayed in the glove box. If the trooper wanted to check the gun, he only had to strike it on the dash, hold it in front of the gun pull the trigger. They also always broadcasted as long as they were on, making a radar detector much more useful back then. Today's guns use a microwave diode as a signal source. If you are unfortunate enough to be the first one he's shot in the last 15 minutes or so then your radar detector won't make a noise until he pulls the trigger, letting you know as soon as you got caught. The troopers in Alabama are using LIDAR in some places. This technology uses infrared light shot in a narrow beam. They mount them in the back of SUVs, sit under overpasses radio the information to pursuit cars waiting on the on-ramp. It's fun to watch. LIDAR detectors are available but they don't work near aw well as RADAR detectors. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy Tom Hargrave wrote: The old ones used a tuning fork to verify calibration, the new ones self calibrate. My local Sheriff uses some very old looking (mid-late 1980s I believe) radar guns in moving mode. I asked for calibration records and was told that it tested itself every time it was turned on, and if it said it was OK that was good enough for government work. They never use the tuning forks either. I'll have to write down the model number next time I'm in their parking lot, I think they were KAL units, and IIRC they transmit on X band. The state either gave them a grant for new units or gave them obsolete state police units once upon a time, and they will keep using them for eternity, or until they get newer ones for free. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
On 8/16/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, but I can get you one easy enough. You willing to pay freight from 50014? At 11:33 AM 8/16/2007, you wrote: In reverse, you don't have a *Putty* G3 Tower case around anywhere do you? Have a G3 desktop, but have always wanted to put it into a Tower. UPS from IA to IN on a 5 lb case would be what $40? Ed -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
The stuff I list on ebay has all gone cheap, or with no bid. But I know what you mean. At 01:51 PM 8/16/2007, you wrote: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you find a laptop for under $400, grab it. I would expect the Powerbook G4 Aluminum 12 to be at that price point. I just saw one on eBay that was over $700 with 8 hours left to go. Is it possible to get *any* bargains on eBay anymore? Seems like prices go through the roof on almost everything there. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Ford Brake LIne
If you haven't figured it out yet, try asking over here http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter T. Arnold Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] O/T Ford Brake LIne I'm replacing front brake line on my '95 ford. Got everything loose. Having a devil of a time removing the sheet metal clip on the back side of the flex line. It wont Slide Off as I have done in the past. I'm missing something stupid. MAybe I should get out my 44 Remington. BTW; about 30 years ago I fired that old girl. Lotsa smoke and noise and a grand kick. I had only loaded 1 round, missed a 5 gallon pail at about 30 feet. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts
I have a 12 Powerbook G4 that I couldn't be happier with. I started with a 12 iBook G4 that I used for a year, but I never liked the fit and finish of the machine. Just felt cheap - it's all plastic. Bought a secondhand powerbook and while I don't -need- the extra power, it came with wireless, Bluetooth, and an overall better fit, finish, and feel to the entire package. iBooks are the low end laptops. All plastic, white. Powerbooks were the high end laptops. Better construction, faster processors, etc. Macbooks are the new low-end laptop, but they're still excellent machines. They don't feel as cheap as I remember my iBook to feel. Macbook Pros are the new high-end laptops and (seemingly) excessive for anything I might do. Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474(v) 614-346-1073(p) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gary Thompson Sent: Thu 8/16/2007 9:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Mac G3 parts Not to thread hijack, but my wife has expressed interest in a small (i.e. 12 screen) MAC laptop. She'll use it mostly for email, web surfing, etc. I've heard Gary rant on about how great the PISMO is, but what's the collective wisdom on the best bang for the buck in 12 MAC laptops? Anybody able to keep up on the differences between macbooks, ibooks, powerbooks, etc? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/15/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I can buy a whole computer for $3 at the university junk sale next week. I just forgot to go today until it was too late, and I don't want to wait a week. Don't get too excited, the $3 computers are PII and things like the G3 266 TO Wonko: Yes it is 266 Mhz, but unlike 266 on windows, a 266 G3 will run OS 9 or OS 10, illustrator and other Adobe software just fine. IN fact these will replace G3 233 machines that are performing satisfactorily. They were just so cheap, that I told them they should get into these and add some drive space and dvd capability. These also have way more memory that their old machines. My old Powerbook 165 with a 68030 processor and Office 6 still works just fine. It is just a little slow on the startup of Office 6. Word 5.1 is much faster. A few years ago I went to a printer that was still using a 1986 Mac SE and OS 3 or some such thing as the primary graphics machine. It did all they need to do. Business is different than gamers. in a business, as long as the machine works, it will be used. I go into lots of businesses that are still running Win 3.1.1 machines for certain purposes. Sometimes even old dos programspre-windows... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Jeezus Kaleb, why don't you set up a guns/manly-manhood listserv for all this excess testosterone? Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent almost half of my five-plus decades in urban areas and have never found myself in a situation where I'd have drawn a weapon if I'd have been carrying one. Closest I've come to that was when I was being teased by a street mime in NYC. He deserved to be shot not only for making fun of me (I was chewing gum) but because he was a mime. The only time I've armed myself was when I was stationed on Governors Island (NYC). If you arrived for the ferry boat after 11:00 pm, you had to wait a half hour instead of a quarter hour between ferry boats, parked just south of Wall Street. ... I kept a stout piece of oak and a hunting knife tucked under the driver's seat of my MBG, and that was only because I was sitting rather exposed (but with pants on) in a small convertible. My experience was that if approached by someone menacing, one had only to say f-off and the guy went away. It is only when one shows fear that one becomes a victim. I've shot weapons -- 45 handgun and 9 mm handgun and M-16 (all military-training related). This was done solely as part of my training: trying to hit the middle of the paper and earn a pretty blue ribbon w/ expert E on it. I've owned guns -- all inherited, none ever purchased -- and gladly left every one behind when I departed marriage #1. Now, if you feel more secure with a 9 mm tucked into your pants, then I guess that is your right. Personally, I'd be more afraid of shooting a testicle off during a sudden frenzy of scratching than I'd be of needing to get into a firefight over my lunch break. Let us stand for our closing prayer. On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I've gone and done it
Sounds like a Brunhilda to me --- On 8/16/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe call it Tiny? -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 86 300SDL
Hi Kaleb, The White 92 300SD W140 has 228k and a *high* asking price of $12k. *Way* high as far as I can tell. Should be closer to $8k. But it looks perfect. Anyway, when I expressed interest in the '86 he said I could get it for less than $4k.. Don;t know if he would do the same for the W140 - which looks awesome BTW. Any 140 has a presence, but I am especially impressed by white. Has a 5 yr engine/tranny warranty - not sure if it costs extra. He also has a 86 190D for $5k and a 5 yr engine/tranny warranty - not sure if it costs extra. Has 100k miles (!) but no 5 speed - THAT would be nice! The 86 SDL is not on his website - .when I spoke with him he said he had been driving it until recently - there wa stuff in the glovebox so that was probably true. Stilll pondering my purchase of this. Would love the 140, but not at $12k. Everything is located at www.abesauto.com in Petersburg Va - a long way from Kaleb! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 86 300SDL 3900 is not bad. Just watch out for the head being cracked. Best to look at it after it has cooled off and set overnight. If any pressure in tank, it could be cracked. Been on the lookout for a 140 SD --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] 86 300SDL Howdy, Found a subject car - silver, 200K, all records, engine, tranny, AC all in very good condition. Needs detailing and a couple very small tears in the seats. Sheepskins on the front seats so couldn;t seee them very well - tires and wheels good except the wheels are chromed (Yuck) Asking ~$3900 but will deal. What's it worth - I know, Kaleb says $200. How about a more common selling price?Any majoy problems to watch out for? He also has a white 300SD W140 but haven't gotten a price yet. Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.11.19/956 - Release Date: 8/16/2007 9:48 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the la
Ah-HA. So, your household IS armed -- against a sudden squirrel attack. Damn'd hypocrite. On 8/16/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have a vintage Benjamin .22 air pistol in the house, and it's secured and trigger locked. Dan -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
99.9% of the time there is no need for that gun you may have on you or in your house. Its that other .1% of the time Wonko the Sane wrote: At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent almost half of my five-plus decades in urban areas and have never found myself in a situation where I'd have drawn a weapon if I'd have been carrying one. Closest I've come to that was when I was being teased by a street mime in NYC. He deserved to be shot not only for making fun of me (I was chewing gum) but because he was a mime. The only time I've armed myself was when I was stationed on Governors Island (NYC). If you arrived for the ferry boat after 11:00 pm, you had to wait a half hour instead of a quarter hour between ferry boats, parked just south of Wall Street. ... I kept a stout piece of oak and a hunting knife tucked under the driver's seat of my MBG, and that was only because I was sitting rather exposed (but with pants on) in a small convertible. My experience was that if approached by someone menacing, one had only to say f-off and the guy went away. It is only when one shows fear that one becomes a victim. I've shot weapons -- 45 handgun and 9 mm handgun and M-16 (all military-training related). This was done solely as part of my training: trying to hit the middle of the paper and earn a pretty blue ribbon w/ expert E on it. I've owned guns -- all inherited, none ever purchased -- and gladly left every one behind when I departed marriage #1. Now, if you feel more secure with a 9 mm tucked into your pants, then I guess that is your right. Personally, I'd be more afraid of shooting a testicle off during a sudden frenzy of scratching than I'd be of needing to get into a firefight over my lunch break. Let us stand for our closing prayer. On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
That is why it pays to pay attention to which decock lever you have your finger on. One decocks the pistol, ... On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 07:51:23PM -0500, Wonko the Sane wrote: Now, if you feel more secure with a 9 mm tucked into your pants, then I guess that is your right. Personally, I'd be more afraid of shooting a testicle off during a sudden frenzy of scratching than I'd be of needing to get into a firefight over my lunch break. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 86 300SDL
I have to get one someday. I have literally wanted a 140 300SD for over 10 years. Lets put it this way, when I was really on the serious look for them (but never bought one) they were selling for about 36k still. Years later got my 93 300SE but it just was not the same as the diesels. I REALLY wanted one REAL bad. I should just sell off several cars and buy one damn it. I want a pearl black one though, or silver perhaps. LarryT wrote: Hi Kaleb, The White 92 300SD W140 has 228k and a *high* asking price of $12k. *Way* high as far as I can tell. Should be closer to $8k. But it looks perfect. Anyway, when I expressed interest in the '86 he said I could get it for less than $4k.. Don;t know if he would do the same for the W140 - which looks awesome BTW. Any 140 has a presence, but I am especially impressed by white. Has a 5 yr engine/tranny warranty - not sure if it costs extra. He also has a 86 190D for $5k and a 5 yr engine/tranny warranty - not sure if it costs extra. Has 100k miles (!) but no 5 speed - THAT would be nice! The 86 SDL is not on his website - .when I spoke with him he said he had been driving it until recently - there wa stuff in the glovebox so that was probably true. Stilll pondering my purchase of this. Would love the 140, but not at $12k. Everything is located at www.abesauto.com in Petersburg Va - a long way from Kaleb! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
My SDL reads right on with the GPS and timing the mile markers on the highway, the 300D 2.5 reads 3-4 MPH low. I haven't checked the others recently. The GPS isn't instant (mine, that is) - it takes readings every second or so and calculates from those. On 8/16/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The easiest way to check your speedo is with a hand-held GPS. The GPS gives an instant reading that's a lot easier than holding a constant speed between mile markers. I use the hand-held GPS I bought for boating. My 1982 300SD read about 3mph high but I reinstalled the needle 3MPH low last time I had it apart. It's electrical and I also notices there is a trimming resister for adjusting the reading (actually a pretty amazing piece of German electro-mechanical equipment). My 79 300TD (all mechanical) also reads a few mph high. My new 2008 Subaru reads 1-2 mph at highway speed. Scott Ritchey -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
OK, our father who art in gunsmith 50.caliber be thy name, thy faithful m16 will get it done as will my m79 grenade lauancher, takin care of busness just like rambo and maybe shwarzenager too, let us not forget the vietnamiese we should have nuked there asses a long time ago, With hell on earth and new guns to come, peace with bullets and allies Amen Sorry, could not resist, Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 07:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= At the risk of being laughed at, I must again repeat my mantra that I spent almost half of my five-plus decades in urban areas and have never found myself in a situation where I'd have drawn a weapon if I'd have been carrying one. Closest I've come to that was when I was being teased by a street mime in NYC. He deserved to be shot not only for making fun of me (I was chewing gum) but because he was a mime. The only time I've armed myself was when I was stationed on Governors Island (NYC). If you arrived for the ferry boat after 11:00 pm, you had to wait a half hour instead of a quarter hour between ferry boats, parked just south of Wall Street. ... I kept a stout piece of oak and a hunting knife tucked under the driver's seat of my MBG, and that was only because I was sitting rather exposed (but with pants on) in a small convertible. My experience was that if approached by someone menacing, one had only to say f-off and the guy went away. It is only when one shows fear that one becomes a victim. I've shot weapons -- 45 handgun and 9 mm handgun and M-16 (all military-training related). This was done solely as part of my training: trying to hit the middle of the paper and earn a pretty blue ribbon w/ expert E on it. I've owned guns -- all inherited, none ever purchased -- and gladly left every one behind when I departed marriage #1. Now, if you feel more secure with a 9 mm tucked into your pants, then I guess that is your right. Personally, I'd be more afraid of shooting a testicle off during a sudden frenzy of scratching than I'd be of needing to get into a firefight over my lunch break. Let us stand for our closing prayer. On 8/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tom, There's an old saying about not bringing a knife to a gun fight. ;-) There's also a saying about dead people not sueing. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speedo accuracy
Want to loan me your GPS so I can check the accuracy of the Quantum? Loren thinks it is accurate, I think it reads 10 mph high. I am not joking -- I will pay postage both ways or bring it to the IowaQ. D. On 8/16/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My SDL reads right on with the GPS and timing the mile markers on the highway, the 300D 2.5 reads 3-4 MPH low. I haven't checked the others recently. The GPS isn't instant (mine, that is) - it takes readings every second or so and calculates from those. On 8/16/07, Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The easiest way to check your speedo is with a hand-held GPS. The GPS gives an instant reading that's a lot easier than holding a constant speed between mile markers. I use the hand-held GPS I bought for boating. My 1982 300SD read about 3mph high but I reinstalled the needle 3MPH low last time I had it apart. It's electrical and I also notices there is a trimming resister for adjusting the reading (actually a pretty amazing piece of German electro-mechanical equipment). My 79 300TD (all mechanical) also reads a few mph high. My new 2008 Subaru reads 1-2 mph at highway speed. Scott Ritchey -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Kaleb special, if you are the 1000th visitor at my house you'll get a bullet in the head and a great deal on used Mercedes parts :-D Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 99.9% of the time there is no need for that gun you may have on you or in your house. Its that other .1% of the time ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
The keg is tapped ... please come single file to the communion rail and honor the Flying Spaghetti Monster's memory. :-) D. On 8/16/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, our father who art in gunsmith 50.caliber be thy name, thy faithful m16 will get it done as will my m79 grenade lauancher, takin care of busness just like rambo and maybe shwarzenager too, let us not forget the vietnamiese we should have nuked there asses a long time ago, With hell on earth and new guns to come, peace with bullets and allies Amen -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the la
My house is armed my garage has been broken into twice. Also, I'm in the nicer part of town. The house across the street was broken into twice - the thugs bashed in the back door and took what they wanted. Neighbor was not home the first time but the second time they took what they wanted and left the alarm blaring while my neighbor stayed in the bedroom, cowering. Thier primary target was music CDs and movie DVDs. Apparantly they can turn them into fast cash at pawn shops then they go buy their fix. They'll only break into my house once. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 08:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the la -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ah-HA. So, your household IS armed -- against a sudden squirrel attack. Damn'd hypocrite. On 8/16/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have a vintage Benjamin .22 air pistol in the house, and it's secured and trigger locked. Dan -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 FSM
Have a dig around in here, it's not complete but there are still a few goodies to be picked over, a bit like a wreck at a self service dismantler. Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, All. Who has the 124 manuals on line? I've been gifted with 260E with 5 good cyls. and one dead one. TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA 190DT 300TD 260E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!, now handguns the law
Don't tell my wife that - she likes handguns too. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/16/07 07:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!,now handguns the law -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeezus Kaleb, why don't you set up a guns/manly-manhood listserv for all this excess testosterone? Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
