Re: [MBZ] Experts Tie Pigeon Poop, Bridge Collapse
Various birds, and even seagulls that come 12 miles from the Gulf, have been using my blue '83 300D for an outhouse the last year or so. At first it gave the car a nice speckled look, but here lately its become more of a two-tone. Since this colorful effect looks better than the paint which was bad, I haven't scrubbed it. However, now that this has been discovered about the pigeons, I wonder if the body will suddenly collapse one day? Gerry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R69M2O0show_article=1catnum=0 I would suggest everyone immediately go out to their cars and check the steering components and control arms to make sure there are no pigeons roosting on them and leaving guano deposits that could cause premature failure of suspension elements through accelerated corrosion leading to loss of control and crashes. Seriously, according to experts. You might want to tie a cat to your front bumper overnight, starting early evening, to ward the pigeons away. Word up. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D
I might benefit from NOS in my 240D, but only to dull the anger that comes from being tailgaited every day. Brian On 8/22/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOS ?? :-) Ed 300E On 23/08/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:20:38 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-MARINE-DIESEL-ENIGINE-BOAT-MOTOR-MEGATECH-MERCEDES_W0QQitemZ260152330830QQihZ016QQcategoryZ50441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The title of the auction says, NEW MARINE DIESEL ENIGINE BOAT MOTOR MEGATECH MERCEDES, but in the body of the auction, it says, WITH MORE THAN 14 YEARS OF ENGINE BUILDING EXPERIENCE USING MERCEDES-BENZ ENGINES. So which is it? Also, his negative feedback as a buyer is interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D
Zoltan Finks wrote: I might benefit from NOS in my 240D, but only to dull the anger that comes from being tailgaited every day. Just hook up a blow-tube to the altitude compensator so you can make black clouds on demand. Tailgaters hate that. Or go over a rough railroad crossing at 3x reasonable speed. Your 123 won't mind, but their car will. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Experts Tie Pigeon Poop, Bridge Collapse
You'll have to consult a poop expert. --R archer wrote: Various birds, and even seagulls that come 12 miles from the Gulf, have been using my blue '83 300D for an outhouse the last year or so. At first it gave the car a nice speckled look, but here lately its become more of a two-tone. Since this colorful effect looks better than the paint which was bad, I haven't scrubbed it. However, now that this has been discovered about the pigeons, I wonder if the body will suddenly collapse one day? Gerry - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R69M2O0show_article=1catnum=0 I would suggest everyone immediately go out to their cars and check the steering components and control arms to make sure there are no pigeons roosting on them and leaving guano deposits that could cause premature failure of suspension elements through accelerated corrosion leading to loss of control and crashes. Seriously, according to experts. You might want to tie a cat to your front bumper overnight, starting early evening, to ward the pigeons away. Word up. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Motorcycle success
Hows this for a Jim Cathy fix, still no shoe goo though. You might remember my Honda CB900f wasn't charging. Well my Haynes book had tests to run on the rectifier/regulator which tested out fine. The stator looked okay but I didn't really know how to test it. The brushes looked okay but one was much shorter than the other. I went to the hardware store and found some brushes that were the same width but thicker and longer. I filed them to the right thickness and soldered the lead to the existing base. Put it all back together and it seems to work just fine. $4 apiece for the new brushes... In discussions at the local motorcycle shop we decided that the tool brushes I bought at the hardware store might be softer than the normal Honda brushes so for $14 I ordered a set. -Curt - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nice way to start the day
Over the last year or so (around 40,000 miles) of using Mobil 1 EP 15w50 my 190D has been losing (leaking or burning, leaking mostly I guess) about a quart in around 1,000 miles (although rising slowly). At the last oil change I switched to Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck because Wal-Mart didn't have EP 15w50 and I didn't trust the regular 15w50 without further research (further research indicates its fine). I was a bit nervous that the 5w40 would leak more than the 15w50, well today I checked and it hasn't even leaked a full quart in 2,000 miles. Apparently this latest change finally moved out the last major bit of crud causing big leaks. It'd probably have done that even if I'd changed to 15w50 but I'm pleased either way... -Curt - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nice way to start the day
you can always change back to EP and see if the leaks start again -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: [MBZ] Nice way to start the day Over the last year or so (around 40,000 miles) of using Mobil 1 EP 15w50 my 190D has been losing (leaking or burning, leaking mostly I guess) about a quart in around 1,000 miles (although rising slowly). At the last oil change I switched to Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo Diesel Truck because Wal-Mart didn't have EP 15w50 and I didn't trust the regular 15w50 without further research (further research indicates its fine). I was a bit nervous that the 5w40 would leak more than the 15w50, well today I checked and it hasn't even leaked a full quart in 2,000 miles. Apparently this latest change finally moved out the last major bit of crud causing big leaks. It'd probably have done that even if I'd changed to 15w50 but I'm pleased either way... -Curt - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.2/967 - Release Date: 8/22/2007 6:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Motorcycle success
I went to the hardware store and found some brushes that were the same width but thicker and longer. I filed them to the right thickness and soldered the lead to the existing base. Put it all back together and it seems to work just fine. $4 apiece for the new brushes... Most excellent, grasshopper! In discussions at the local motorcycle shop we decided that the tool brushes I bought at the hardware store might be softer than the normal Honda brushes so for $14 I ordered a set. Way I see it, softer isn't necessarily bad. They might not list quite as long, but they should wear the slip rings less too. Sort of like the soft brake pads on MB's theory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D
Just hook up a blow-tube to the altitude compensator so you can make black clouds on demand. Tailgaters hate that. Or go over a rough railroad crossing On the 200D, or any other early engine with a throttle plate, the car will make truly heinous black clouds if you crack open the vacuum line to the IP. I'm thinking an overboost safety valve might plumb right into there, and there's plenty of room in the dash for another factory white-knob momentary switch (normally a rear-window defogger switch). at 3x reasonable speed. Your 123 won't mind, but their car will. RRX only works on somebody who doesn't know it's coming. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Gentlemen, Just refilled the tank on the '87 300D for the first time since adjusting the ALDA. I was disappointed to observe a MAJOR decline in fuel economy---from about 25 mpg to about 19 (50-50 mix of city and highway driving on both tanks). If anything I've been seeing less visible exhaust smoke since tweaking the ALDA, so I'd be really surprised if I was losing unburned fuel that way. What happened? Did I maybe knock a fuel line loose while manhandling the ALDA in and out under the manifold? Did I break it? I only turned the screw on top one full turn counterclockwise, and I know it wasn't adjusted before since the safety cap was still on. One good thing is that I've figured out that, once the cap is off, the adjusting screw and locknut are just barely accessible without taking the ALDA out (or the intake manifold off). Between the #3 and #4 intake runners you can just barely wiggle in a 10mm GearWrench from one side and an improvised low-clearance screwdriver (i.e. nail file or butter knife) from the other. So repeated adjustments to find the right setting shouldn't be too hard, if it sounds like I just overdid it. Anybody have any thoughts? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Gentlemen, Just refilled the tank on the '87 300D for the first time since adjusting the ALDA. I was disappointed to observe a MAJOR decline in fuel economy---from about 25 mpg to about 19 (50-50 mix of city and highway driving on both tanks). If anything I've been seeing less visible exhaust smoke since tweaking the ALDA, so I'd be really surprised if I was losing unburned fuel that way. What happened? Did I maybe knock a fuel line loose while manhandling the ALDA in and out under the manifold? Did I break it? I only turned the screw on top one full turn counterclockwise, and I know it wasn't adjusted before since the safety cap was still on. One good thing is that I've figured out that, once the cap is off, the adjusting screw and locknut are just barely accessible without taking the ALDA out (or the intake manifold off). Between the #3 and #4 intake runners you can just barely wiggle in a 10mm GearWrench from one side and an improvised low-clearance screwdriver (i.e. nail file or butter knife) from the other. So repeated adjustments to find the right setting shouldn't be too hard, if it sounds like I just overdid it. Anybody have any thoughts? If you're putting more fuel into the engine and not getting more power out then there WILL be smoke. If no smoke then the fuel is going somewhere other than the engine (or you are doing a lot more work - like if the tire pressure are 10 lb low or brakes are dragging). The ALDA didn't do it. All it does is raise fuel as boost increases. No boost, no ALDA action. If there's too much fuel, then there will be smoke! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
On 8/23/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're putting more fuel into the engine and not getting more power out then there WILL be smoke. If no smoke then the fuel is going somewhere other than the engine (or you are doing a lot more work - like if the tire pressure are 10 lb low or brakes are dragging). The ALDA didn't do it. All it does is raise fuel as boost increases. No boost, no ALDA action. If there's too much fuel, then there will be smoke! Thanks Marshall. There is definitely more power since adjusting the ALDA. The car used to be dog-slow off the line, and now responds to the accelerator much more like a gas car. However, interestingly, I can still feel it when the turbo spools up---I thought with the ALDA adjusted properly, there was supposed to be no more turbo lag? So what else might cause a sudden decrease in fuel economy with no corresponding loss of power? Sounds like a fuel leak is about the only possibility, since a blockage (e.g. fuel filter) would cause loss of power, and an overrich condition would cause more smoke. Right? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Thanks Marshall. There is definitely more power since adjusting the ALDA. The car used to be dog-slow off the line, and now responds to the accelerator much more like a gas car. Now that the car has more power have you been using it? Making more power consumes more fuel... However, interestingly, I can still feel it when the turbo spools up---I thought with the ALDA adjusted properly, there was supposed to be no more turbo lag? Then you might have more room to go on your adjustment. If you've maxed out the adjustment screw you can always shim the ALDA and then re-adjust. HTH John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 8/23/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're putting more fuel into the engine and not getting more power out then there WILL be smoke. If no smoke then the fuel is going somewhere other than the engine (or you are doing a lot more work - like if the tire pressure are 10 lb low or brakes are dragging). The ALDA didn't do it. All it does is raise fuel as boost increases. No boost, no ALDA action. If there's too much fuel, then there will be smoke! Thanks Marshall. There is definitely more power since adjusting the ALDA. The car used to be dog-slow off the line, and now responds to the accelerator much more like a gas car. However, interestingly, I can still feel it when the turbo spools up---I thought with the ALDA adjusted properly, there was supposed to be no more turbo lag? So what else might cause a sudden decrease in fuel economy with no corresponding loss of power? Sounds like a fuel leak is about the only possibility, since a blockage (e.g. fuel filter) would cause loss of power, and an overrich condition would cause more smoke. Right? Over rich ALDA causes smoke. There is NO such thing as turbo lag in a Mercedes diesel. The turbo provides some boost much above idle. What most people refer to as turbo lag is the improper adjustment of the ALDA that provides insufficient fuel until the engine reaches 2200-2500 rpm. The way to optimize the ALDA for power is to increase until there is more than a tad of smoke at full load with the engine running at 4000+ rpm (like pedal to the floor in drive when you have hit about 65-70+ mph) and the turn the ALDA back until only slight wisps of smoke are barely visible in the rear view mirror (under the same conditions) on a bright sunny day. What happens at night in trailing headlights measures NOTHING so don't worry about that! Most serious (more than 3-4 mpg) increases in fuel use results from leaks! Could be any of the soft fuel lines or the return lines that connect the injectors. A fuel filter that is clogged will (paradoxically) result in increased fuel consumption as well. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
On 8/23/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over rich ALDA causes smoke. There is NO such thing as turbo lag in a Mercedes diesel. The turbo provides some boost much above idle. What most people refer to as turbo lag is the improper adjustment of the ALDA that provides insufficient fuel until the engine reaches 2200-2500 rpm. The way to optimize the ALDA for power is to increase until there is more than a tad of smoke at full load with the engine running at 4000+ rpm (like pedal to the floor in drive when you have hit about 65-70+ mph) and the turn the ALDA back until only slight wisps of smoke are barely visible in the rear view mirror (under the same conditions) on a bright sunny day. What happens at night in trailing headlights measures NOTHING so don't worry about that! Most serious (more than 3-4 mpg) increases in fuel use results from leaks! Could be any of the soft fuel lines or the return lines that connect the injectors. A fuel filter that is clogged will (paradoxically) result in increased fuel consumption as well. Hmm... If anything my ALDA is still under-adjusted then, since if anything I'm seeing less smoke in the daytime. Instead, I will check for leaks and change the fuel filters---it's been a while on those. Thanks! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy Gentlemen, Just refilled the tank on the '87 300D for the first time since adjusting the ALDA. I was disappointed to observe a MAJOR decline in fuel economy---from about 25 mpg to about 19 (50-50 mix of city and highway driving on both tanks). If anything I've been seeing less visible exhaust smoke since tweaking the ALDA, so I'd be really surprised if I was losing unburned fuel that way. What happened? Did I maybe knock a fuel line loose while manhandling the ALDA in and out under the manifold? Did I break it? I only turned the screw on top one full turn counterclockwise, and I know it wasn't adjusted before since the safety cap was still on. One good thing is that I've figured out that, once the cap is off, the adjusting screw and locknut are just barely accessible without taking the ALDA out (or the intake manifold off). Between the #3 and #4 intake runners you can just barely wiggle in a 10mm GearWrench from one side and an improvised low-clearance screwdriver (i.e. nail file or butter knife) from the other. So repeated adjustments to find the right setting shouldn't be too hard, if it sounds like I just overdid it. Anybody have any thoughts? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I seem to remember that the moose claimed she bit him
Another he said, she said . . . How does one say this in Meese? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
I met a fellow diesel driver at the pump last night. Of course we talked about car and I shared the GoodNews (TM) of Okiebenz. *grin* In the discussion he mention that the previous owner claimed this 240D had hydraulic self-leveling suspension. The PO said the pump in the trunk next to the antenna went bad so he removed it. Todd, the current owner said the loose lines have been leaking oil all over the trunk. A sedan with self-leveler! I had to look, so I stuck my head under the car. I didn't see any nitrogen spheres, or leveler valve. The shocks (dampers) look more like my sedans than the ones in the wagons. I then looked at the engine, and there's no pump like on my wagons. So, is there such a thing as a factory, hydraulic self-leveling suspension for a sedan that puts the pump in the trunk? Or was the PO just telling a story? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
Self-leveling suspension was available as an option on 123 chassis models (and possibly others) but it was the same system as the wagons with an engine driven pump, nitrogen spheres and the rest. Dan --- Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met a fellow diesel driver at the pump last night. Of course we talked about car and I shared the GoodNews (TM) of Okiebenz. *grin* In the discussion he mention that the previous owner claimed this 240D had hydraulic self-leveling suspension. The PO said the pump in the trunk next to the antenna went bad so he removed it. Todd, the current owner said the loose lines have been leaking oil all over the trunk. A sedan with self-leveler! I had to look, so I stuck my head under the car. I didn't see any nitrogen spheres, or leveler valve. The shocks (dampers) look more like my sedans than the ones in the wagons. I then looked at the engine, and there's no pump like on my wagons. So, is there such a thing as a factory, hydraulic self-leveling suspension for a sedan that puts the pump in the trunk? Or was the PO just telling a story? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
That was an option on those cars, on euro cars. The pump would be on the engine though. There is not a pump in the truck. I have no idea what the guy is talking about. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan? I met a fellow diesel driver at the pump last night. Of course we talked about car and I shared the GoodNews (TM) of Okiebenz. *grin* In the discussion he mention that the previous owner claimed this 240D had hydraulic self-leveling suspension. The PO said the pump in the trunk next to the antenna went bad so he removed it. Todd, the current owner said the loose lines have been leaking oil all over the trunk. A sedan with self-leveler! I had to look, so I stuck my head under the car. I didn't see any nitrogen spheres, or leveler valve. The shocks (dampers) look more like my sedans than the ones in the wagons. I then looked at the engine, and there's no pump like on my wagons. So, is there such a thing as a factory, hydraulic self-leveling suspension for a sedan that puts the pump in the trunk? Or was the PO just telling a story? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
the 123 CD (coupe) models have the self-leveling system along with the wagons (td). Best Wishes, -Michael Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
wrong Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan? the 123 CD (coupe) models have the self-leveling system along with the wagons (td). Best Wishes, -Michael Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
Correct Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan? The only W123 I ever heard of with self-leveling was a euro 240D with towing package. SLS pump on the head, just like a S123 5 cylinder had. I'm pretty sure the wagons, SELs and 2.3-16V were the only MBUSA cars with hydropneumatic suspension. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench
Hee. At an MB gathering we had at San Simeon when I was living in California an impromptu torque wrench competition was held. The company I worked for serviced a lot of large displacement stationary diesels, such as Fairbanks-Morse and Waukeshas. As a necessary part of servicing these behemoths, we had to have a torque multiplier available to properly torque things like crank pulleys and the likes. I knew I would win hands down. What was that spec? 1400 foot-pounds? Dan --- John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: This is a REAL wrench. Torque wrench, that is. I'll elaborate later. Name: Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 87096 bytes Desc: 4147941065-Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070822/1e8b0cd2/attachment.jpg Woah. Is that really necessary? ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
The only W123 I ever heard of with self-leveling was a euro 240D with towing package. SLS pump on the head, just like a S123 5 cylinder had. I'm pretty sure the wagons, SELs and 2.3-16V were the only MBUSA cars with hydropneumatic suspension. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
Hi, All. Could the parts, pump etc. be a leftover from some Bio-D attempt? My $.02 Fred Moir Lynn MA - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
PS, thanks for the referral, thats how our little list grows. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan? I met a fellow diesel driver at the pump last night. Of course we talked about car and I shared the GoodNews (TM) of Okiebenz. *grin* In the discussion he mention that the previous owner claimed this 240D had hydraulic self-leveling suspension. The PO said the pump in the trunk next to the antenna went bad so he removed it. Todd, the current owner said the loose lines have been leaking oil all over the trunk. A sedan with self-leveler! I had to look, so I stuck my head under the car. I didn't see any nitrogen spheres, or leveler valve. The shocks (dampers) look more like my sedans than the ones in the wagons. I then looked at the engine, and there's no pump like on my wagons. So, is there such a thing as a factory, hydraulic self-leveling suspension for a sedan that puts the pump in the trunk? Or was the PO just telling a story? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
It seems than at Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:32:53 -0700 (PDT), Frederick wrote: Hi, All. Could the parts, pump etc. be a leftover from some Bio-D attempt? My $.02 Fred Moir Lynn MA That was one of my thoughts. But veg oil, not biodiesel. His trunk was full so I didn't get to see the oil - but most of the time hydraulic oil is quite different from veg oil. But that doesn't mean that he knows the difference... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D
Explain how this would work. I'm interested On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:01:45 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: I might benefit from NOS in my 240D, but only to dull the anger that comes from being tailgaited every day. Just hook up a blow-tube to the altitude compensator so you can make black clouds on demand. Tailgaters hate that. Or go over a rough railroad crossing at 3x reasonable speed. Your 123 won't mind, but their car will. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Bought them from Rusty, whatever he sells. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126 Steering knuckle
Interesting. That's the same part as on my 1970280SE 3.5 coupe. On 8/22/07, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the EPC you will find the Steering Knuckle in group 33, front axle. It is item 5. The MB part number is A 116 330 4120. Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS O/T Router NOW OT Sprinter Plug-in Hybrid delivery vans
I've had no luck doing that in the past but will try again. On 8/23/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:51:41 -0400 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenny Mandel, *Greenwire* reporter In a test designed to provide feedback on its advanced lithium ion technology, battery manufacturer Johnson Controls-Saft will convert a fleet of Dodge Sprinter delivery vans into plug-in hybrids, the company announced yesterday. On 8/22/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want wireless or wired? It doesn't really matter I guess, I use LinkSys stuff which seems to be fine, Belkin makes stuff (I have read where they are a bit easier to set up, but the LinkSys is not hard), and some other kinds. They also come in various speeds (designated by How about starting a brand-new email rather than replying to someone else's thread? That way it's not threaded in with all the other email. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
rebuilt by Bosch, I was told. Luther On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:12:07 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought them from Rusty, whatever he sells. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D
The listing has been removed. On 8/23/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Explain how this would work. I'm interested On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:01:45 -0500, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: I might benefit from NOS in my 240D, but only to dull the anger that comes from being tailgaited every day. Just hook up a blow-tube to the altitude compensator so you can make black clouds on demand. Tailgaters hate that. Or go over a rough railroad crossing at 3x reasonable speed. Your 123 won't mind, but their car will. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
I have never seen a 123 coupe with it. Luther? Does yours have it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan? the 123 CD (coupe) models have the self-leveling system along with the wagons (td). Best Wishes, -Michael Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That was one of my thoughts. But veg oil, not biodiesel. His trunk was full so I didn't get to see the oil - but most of the time hydraulic oil is quite different from veg oil. But that doesn't mean that he knows the difference... Maybe it was an aftermarket system that had been hacked in. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
My 1984 300CD didn't have self-leveling suspension, and it was an MBUSA employee car that was decked out. Dan --- Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never seen a 123 coupe with it. Luther? Does yours have it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D
Luther wrote: Explain how this would work. I'm interested I was thinking of putting a pipe fitting (Either glue it on, or make a threaded hole in the ADA) on the atmospheric air inlet of the ADA, and having a little hose in the cockpit that you could blow into to enrich the fuel. Don't know if the ADA has enough travel to make smoke at reasonable altitude that way, but I'm pretty sure it would work great in Denver. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? New and used rebuilt injectors use the same NEW nozzles. The nozzles are made where ever Bosch chooses. I have had NO trouble with rebuilt injectors (I've NEVER bought a new one in 40+ years) providing you use a certified rebuilder. It ain't rocket science! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
LWB250 wrote: Self-leveling suspension was available as an option on 123 chassis models (and possibly others) but it was the same system as the wagons with an engine driven pump, nitrogen spheres and the rest. Dan NEVER available as a US 123 option. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Motorcycle success
Running my fingers across the rings I can detect no noticeable wear. The bike has around 40,000 miles. I'm going to get the new brushes and put them on the shelf. When the homemade ones start to act up I'll put in the storebought. Now I need to see if a Honda dealer can get just the gasket for the stator cover. Otherwise its $150 for a full gasket set... Or get some gasket paper and make one which is what I presume you would do. -Curt Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:39:26 -0700 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Motorcycle success To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I went to the hardware store and found some brushes that were the same width but thicker and longer. I filed them to the right thickness and soldered the lead to the existing base. Put it all back together and it seems to work just fine. $4 apiece for the new brushes... Most excellent, grasshopper! In discussions at the local motorcycle shop we decided that the tool brushes I bought at the hardware store might be softer than the normal Honda brushes so for $14 I ordered a set. Way I see it, softer isn't necessarily bad. They might not list quite as long, but they should wear the slip rings less too. Sort of like the soft brake pads on MB's theory. -- Jim - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
I was under he impression new ones were not matched by default... Could mismatched injectors lead to lowered economy or would better matched injectors give better economy? -Curt Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:12:07 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Bought them from Rusty, whatever he sells. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Correct, new ones are not matched and the spec allows for some error, but if you want the thing to run extra smooth at idle, you can take them in and have them matched ( some call it balanced, same thing ) to a much closer figure. Robert Curt Raymond wrote: I was under he impression new ones were not matched by default... Could mismatched injectors lead to lowered economy or would better matched injectors give better economy? -Curt Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:12:07 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Bought them from Rusty, whatever he sells. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Curt Raymond wrote: I was under he impression new ones were not matched by default... Could mismatched injectors lead to lowered economy or would better matched injectors give better economy? Bosch rebuilds and new injectors are matched to within 10 bar. To match them closer requires that YOU or your shop test them! All of the injectors in an engine should be matched within 5 bar (if matched within 2-3 bar engine idle will be smoother - if the rest of the engine is in good shape). A 10 bar range will not have much effect on fuel economy, but the engine idle will be rough. If the injectors dribble or the spray pattern is well out of specifications economy will drop. An injector in a well maintained engine should last 150-250kmi! If the injection timing is more than a few degrees out of spec, economy and power will start to diminish. If the timer mechanism is damaged, economy drops. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy Curt Raymond wrote: I was under he impression new ones were not matched by default... Could mismatched injectors lead to lowered economy or would better matched injectors give better economy? Bosch rebuilds and new injectors are matched to within 10 bar. To match them closer requires that YOU or your shop test them! All of the injectors in an engine should be matched within 5 bar (if matched within 2-3 bar engine idle will be smoother - if the rest of the engine is in good shape). A 10 bar range will not have much effect on fuel economy, but the engine idle will be rough. If the injectors dribble or the spray pattern is well out of specifications economy will drop. An injector in a well maintained engine should last 150-250kmi! If the injection timing is more than a few degrees out of spec, economy and power will start to diminish. If the timer mechanism is damaged, economy drops. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Clogged air filter? On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 04:24:14PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same Isn't it possible for the valve to get stuck open? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
On 8/23/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same Isn't it possible for the valve to get stuck open? Mine did once. The only permanent cure is to remove the stupid thing entirely or (for the stealth look) block it off on both sides. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan?
I wish. On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:06:51 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never seen a 123 coupe with it. Luther? Does yours have it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self-leveler on a W123 sedan? the 123 CD (coupe) models have the self-leveling system along with the wagons (td). Best Wishes, -Michael -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
its brand new Kevin wrote: Clogged air filter? On Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 04:24:14PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
I dont know, I guess. Will that cause black smoke? What kind of smoke does a stuck egr cause? Guess I need to pull it and block it off. John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same Isn't it possible for the valve to get stuck open? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 350 sdl w126
The MB manual suggests that you decompress the spring and illustrates the process. Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pulling gasser injectors??
Very easy. With engine off, remove the nut on the injection line. The bracket holds it for you. Remove the allen head screw, lift off the bracket, and pull the injector out. There is very little pressure or gas flow with the fuel pump off and the air meter flap up. Leave all the lines loose and push the flap down after you get new seals on the injectors (get new seals for the plastic holders, too, they are almost certainly bad too) -- this will flush some crud out of the lines, then re-install. Watch that you don't drop those small screws into oblivion. You will have to remove the center three lines from the fuel distributor as well, they are too stiff to bend out of the way as they are quite short. Peter On Aug 23, 2007, at 12:48 AM, E M wrote: Hi Everyone, Next thing I'd like to do on the w124 gasser with a 3.0L engine is pull the fuel injectors. Ok, the questions, the fuel lines are ridged, so unlike my other car with CIS, I guess I'll have to remove the lines first before taking out the injectors? Ok, so with a stone cold engine, can I just undo the nut on the line that connects to the injector? I know CIS is under more than 100psi, but won't a rag over it do to catch the fuel mist? Also, I notice a bracket that seems to prevent the injector from turning while the fuel line is being attached or removed. That bracket seems to be held in place with a hex bolt. So, with the fuel line removed, and the bracket removed, what to expect next?? Does the injector just push in, using an O ring like my other car with CIS? There seems to be a while or off white washer that sits just ontop of the head, and the injector goes through it. Does this remain in the head when you pull the injector? Looks like a good spot for an air leak, hee hee. So, putting it all back together, is there a procedure for bleeding the air out of the fuel lines, or just crank it and let the fuel pump purge the air? Any tips offered is much appreciated, other than telling me not to do it, because you know I am! hee hee :-) Thanks everyone. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
You are way low on milage -- I get 30 in mixed driving with the AC attempting to cool the car in 100 degree heat! Check injection timing, dragging brakes (especially rear) and tranny slip. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] another crack smoker
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-360-SDL-Classic-Mercedes-Benz-Perfect-condition_W0QQitemZ270158417531QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuses
Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card. all i find is Kits ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses
autozone has them in individual packs. Hans Neureiter wrote: Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card. all i find is Kits ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses
Rusty. On 8/23/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card. all i find is Kits ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
On 8/23/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are way low on milage -- I get 30 in mixed driving with the AC attempting to cool the car in 100 degree heat! Check injection timing, dragging brakes (especially rear) and tranny slip. Peter, are you talking to me or to Kaleb? (124 vs 126) I have NEVER seen 30 mpg in either this car or the previous '87 300D I owned, except on one tank that was 100% highway driving, on the flat, at a virtually constant 75 mph. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
To you, Alex! I routinely get 31-32 with low AC use since I replaced the head gasket (need to get the new head installed once I get the AC going on my Mom's TE). Highway similar unless I go over 70, when it drops to around 29. I'm usually a fairly gentle driver, but have a couple spots where I make some smoke. Pull your rear brake pads and check the calipers -- I'm betting they are stuck (I've had to free mine up a couple times, and will be rebuilding the calipers next time I do work back there. My brother's SDL runs 26-28 on the highway. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another crack smoker
It's a nice looking car but that aspect Please contact Clyde Cleveland ' kinda puts me off. I mean, if you were named Clyde Cleveland, would you be in the used car business? And a 360SDL? --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-360-SDL-Classic-Mercedes-Benz-Perfect-condition_W0QQitemZ270158417531QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses
Up in Canada, we can get them at Canadian Tire for next to nothing. I put a spot of dielectric grease on the tips on my other car, to prevent them from sticking, and just change them every 4-5 years or so and keep some of the old in the trunk as spares. Ed 300E 911SC On 23/08/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card. all i find is Kits ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pulling gasser injectors??
Thanks Peter, so that's this weekends project. :-) Ed 300E On 23/08/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very easy. With engine off, remove the nut on the injection line. The bracket holds it for you. Remove the allen head screw, lift off the bracket, and pull the injector out. There is very little pressure or gas flow with the fuel pump off and the air meter flap up. Leave all the lines loose and push the flap down after you get new seals on the injectors (get new seals for the plastic holders, too, they are almost certainly bad too) -- this will flush some crud out of the lines, then re-install. Watch that you don't drop those small screws into oblivion. You will have to remove the center three lines from the fuel distributor as well, they are too stiff to bend out of the way as they are quite short. Peter On Aug 23, 2007, at 12:48 AM, E M wrote: Hi Everyone, Next thing I'd like to do on the w124 gasser with a 3.0L engine is pull the fuel injectors. Ok, the questions, the fuel lines are ridged, so unlike my other car with CIS, I guess I'll have to remove the lines first before taking out the injectors? Ok, so with a stone cold engine, can I just undo the nut on the line that connects to the injector? I know CIS is under more than 100psi, but won't a rag over it do to catch the fuel mist? Also, I notice a bracket that seems to prevent the injector from turning while the fuel line is being attached or removed. That bracket seems to be held in place with a hex bolt. So, with the fuel line removed, and the bracket removed, what to expect next?? Does the injector just push in, using an O ring like my other car with CIS? There seems to be a while or off white washer that sits just ontop of the head, and the injector goes through it. Does this remain in the head when you pull the injector? Looks like a good spot for an air leak, hee hee. So, putting it all back together, is there a procedure for bleeding the air out of the fuel lines, or just crank it and let the fuel pump purge the air? Any tips offered is much appreciated, other than telling me not to do it, because you know I am! hee hee :-) Thanks everyone. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another crack smoker
What's a 360? I never heard of one. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:25 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] another crack smoker http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-360-SDL-Classic-Mercedes-Benz-P erfect-condition_W0QQitemZ270158417531QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same Isn't it possible for the valve to get stuck open? If a valve sticks open the piston hits it and often breaks the cam shaft. That can ruin your day. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same To assure it's NOT the EGR you must block it off with a plate. What you are doing does NOTHING if the EGR is broken and hanging open. Small changes in timing (several degrees) don't seriously increase smoke but if the chain has stretched more than 4 degrees smoke can result and power will be down (but measuring chain stretch is a breeze). If the ALDA has broken, you will have excessive smoke (and you can't adjust it). You will have smoke if injector(s) dribble, have rotten spray pattern or are way out of the proper pop pressures. A cracked head or head gasket CAN do it too. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses
The ones at AZ here are Plastic. With Aluminum strip. The Indy I use has the Ceramic w/ Copper one's for $0.35 each. Russ W. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: autozone has them in individual packs. Hans Neureiter wrote: Where is a good source to buy these ceramic fuses a'la card. all i find is Kits ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If I need 3ea 25A fuses I have tu buy 3 kits. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For all you AC fixers
HF has this item on sale $60 --R http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=92514 *ELECTRONIC HALOGEN LEAK DETECTOR* * Detects all halogenated gases containing chlorine and fluorine such as R134A, R12 and R22 * Seven levels of sensitivity * Single color visual and audible alarm * Battery test function with battery voltage indication * Fast and easy reset * Includes 14'' flexible probe, two sensing tips, aluminum case and two C-batteries Duty cycle: continuous, Operating temp.: 30 to 125 degrees, Overall dimensions (without probe): 9'' L x 2.5'' W x 2.5'' T, Weight: 1.2 lbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another crack smoker
Zero feedback as well. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a nice looking car but that aspect Please contact Clyde Cleveland ' kinda puts me off. I mean, if you were named Clyde Cleveland, would you be in the used car business? And a 360SDL? --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-360-SDL-Classic-Mercedes-Benz-Perfect-condition_W0QQitemZ270158417531QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Speaking of new vs. rebuilt, Rusty is selling NEW Chinese importa W123 rear axles for $150 and rebuilt for $199 + core charge. Tom says the new ones haven't had any problems. Both have the same warranty. Anybody tried one of these new axles from the mainland? 1983 300D, torn CV boot. On 8/23/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: OK, so why do I have too much black smoke? Is my timing off? Is my EGR messed up? I unhooked the EGR and plugged the vac line but still the same Isn't it possible for the valve to get stuck open? If a valve sticks open the piston hits it and often breaks the cam shaft. That can ruin your day. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Peter Frederick wrote: I'm usually a fairly gentle driver, but have a couple spots where I make some smoke. I think that has quite a bit to do with it! My mileage on my SD ranged from 19-28 depending on how I drove. I have a bunch of receipts I need to calculate the mileage on, but I was getting 29MPG in my 300D 2.5T with leaky fuel return lines. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fungi Make Biodiesel Efficiently at Room Temperature
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/08/fungi-make-biod.html Those Indians are at it again, making biodiesel out of something that looks like poop, or poop is an intermediate stage, or poop-like material is involved somehow. I'm not sure it would pass through filters or injectors, but here it is. Biodiesel from mushrooms, somehow. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fungi Make Biodiesel Efficiently at Room Temperature
I've finally found a use (other than mowing shoes) for the two pair of Converse I've been wearing to work all summer w/out socks. (Love my job: I have gone to work all summer long in shorts, polo shirt and Converse ... and I am management!) On 8/23/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Biodiesel from mushrooms, somehow. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another crack smoker
I think it's an S Class with a Ferrari V8 engine in it. :-) Ed 300E On 23/08/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's a 360? I never heard of one. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:25 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] another crack smoker http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-360-SDL-Classic-Mercedes-Benz-P erfect-condition_W0QQitemZ270158417531QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Motorcycle success
Now I need to see if a Honda dealer can get just the gasket for the stator cover. Otherwise its $150 for a full gasket set... Or get some gasket paper and make one which is what I presume you would do. Yeah, gasket paper. Cheap and effective. Just takes a bit of time. Like 10 minutes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pulling gasser injectors??
Make sure to hold the injector with a spanner whilst undoing the fuel line, otherwise you may damage the bracket. Peter Frederick wrote: Very easy. With engine off, remove the nut on the injection line. The bracket holds it for you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
