Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm?
Click on Jefferson, click on Time Lapses, set the date to 28th, set the time to 7pm or so, click Gen Loop. Watch. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:19:18 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kcci.com/schoolnet8/index.html Select Jefferson webcam. Camera is 1/4 mile north of me. I see nothing. It's black. Even on the Daily webcamera lapses I see nothing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
Hey. Still is a real classy Mercedes. (Old goat I am, no classier Benz made since the 126 and no better HD since the RoadKing.) My Mercedoaisk - SchizoBenz - Fran(ken)(Mer)cedes, or whatever we call it, is not a HEAP. It 'KLUTTERKLUTTER' s. Tomorrow (Wednesday) I will do the 0 - 100 km/h test. I'll report back on Friday after returning from the test. On 8/28/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it's a SchizoBenz or Mercedomosaic? Anyway, congratulations on getting her on the road again! On 8/28/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I have a dilemma: Frankenheap is already taken. I have now an '82 126 with a 116 motor and a 123 tranny. Your car has to be a heap-ostuff to qualify for the 'heap' part anyway. Besides, old bolt-neck was named 'monster', not Frankenything. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
congratulations on getting Die Bismark back on the road where she belongs! Ursula, my '83 300SD, is going into the indy next week to rectify whatever is squeaking in the front end. I'm also having the brakes and exhaust system inspected. When she's all done, she'll be ready for a road trip. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5K miles, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
I think the Bismark should be called the 126.16.23. What is the difference(s) between the 617.950 and the 617.951? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5K miles, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Schadenfreude
You either live in a rich neighbourhood or the french Italian got lost? I like to fish for Laborghinis with yellow artificial lures. Maseratis, owned by Citroen, are too bony. On 8/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I would have been knee deep (well, maybe over the ankles) and having to deal with all that. I did that 2 weeks ago, we got 5.5 of rain one morning, decided to move Brunnhilde to higher ground when it was lapping at the door sills. Off with the footwear, wade out into that nasty stuff, in the middle of the deluge. I saw a frog choking --R Wonko the Sane wrote: You should have offered to tow his Italian I-No-Go with your Teutonic Tank. On 8/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So this evening we had some good thunderstorms roll through the 'hood, and dumped maybe 2.5-3 in an hour or so. Our streets are designed to work with the storm sewers to collect and meter water into them, so the streets tend to fill up 6 or so and then start running over into the grass. So I look outside a little while ago and there is this guy in a suit standing in the middle of that next to his Maserati Coupe which was becalmed and dead in the water. Flatbed showed up a few minutes later --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
Minor things. The oil filter housing (xx.950 is mechanical instrumentation, xx.951 is electric), the speed control linkage and the vacuum pump drive. On 8/29/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Bismark should be called the 126.16.23. What is the difference(s) between the 617.950 and the 617.951? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5K miles, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
If you add it all up it comes to 365. I will get a new trunk batch that says 365SD. That will stymie some folks. On 8/29/07, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the Bismark should be called the 126.16.23. What is the difference(s) between the 617.950 and the 617.951? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5K miles, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/28/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies love them. We purchased an '84 - regent gray with biscuit interior - My wife sure does. She wants an XJ-6 (only round head lights on a true Jag, please. Phhbt, square headlights. Ha!) as badly as I want a W116. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/28/07, Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no doubt that the Jags are a better looking car than the Mercs but under the skin it is another story. I wouldn't go quite that far. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all, and I happen to think Mercedes pre 90's are very good looking cars. Though, the newest aero shaped one is starting to grow on me. There is one I see on a semi regular basis on my trip to and from work. Though a 108 or a 116 still beats it in my opinion. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm?
http://www.kcci.com/weather/14000292/detail.html The town they mention here (Cooper) has about ten families living there. On 8/29/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Click on Jefferson, click on Time Lapses, set the date to 28th, set the time to 7pm or so, click Gen Loop. Watch. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:19:18 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kcci.com/schoolnet8/index.html Select Jefferson webcam. Camera is 1/4 mile north of me. I see nothing. It's black. Even on the Daily webcamera lapses I see nothing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm?
To be honest, its really not worth the trouble --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm? Click on Jefferson, click on Time Lapses, set the date to 28th, set the time to 7pm or so, click Gen Loop. Watch. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:19:18 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kcci.com/schoolnet8/index.html Select Jefferson webcam. Camera is 1/4 mile north of me. I see nothing. It's black. Even on the Daily webcamera lapses I see nothing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Router
Thanks, Clay. That looks interesting. If I don't find a dish, I'll try it. Gerry --- - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pringles can antenna google it clay On 25 Aug 2007, at 01:52, archer wrote: Can pickup my neighbors broadband from the driveway by the house with a laptop, but can't pick it up by the shop which is about 200 ft behind the house where I would like to. Thought about buying a TVDirect reflector from a used store and mounting a USB Linksys remote in it in place of the TVDirect pickup but not sure it the reflector would be big enough for a weak signal. If the signal could be relayed from the house to the shop some way (200'), the TVDirect dish, mounted on the house, would work with a Lynksis antenna in it I think, but I don't know if a Lynksis hub can be used as a relay or if it would work at 200' distance. (Have two Lynksis Gs and could buy an N). Suggestions? Thanks, Gerry --- - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usr.com/products/networking/wireless-product.asp? sku=USR5461 I just snagged one of these tonight for the sole reason that it can function as a wireless bridge. Currently has a $20 rebate from USR. Luther On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:46:23 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I second what Tom said --- On 8/22/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any of the major brands work well the feedbacl you'll get will be based on users opinion of the setup menu. I'm assuming you will be connecting to the internet? Then don't bother with anyone's 2X or Speedboost technology - get a straight wireless G router (they all make them). The reason is that even wireless G is faster than an internet connection. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.9/975 - Release Date: 8/26/2007 9:34 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: More virtual pillory!
Yeah well. I'm under the impression getting BMW bikes onto the center stand is relatively painless. I've seen lots of them on them even in parking lots. Jap bikes, well my Jap bikes anyway are a serious PITA to get onto the center stand. Even the Kawi 454 which is a small bike I've nearly dropped while trying to get on the centerstand. My Honda CB900f, forget it, 2 man job. Definately 2 MEN, my wife is no help at all -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:05:09 -0700 From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: More virtual pillory! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi Curt! there's much grousing in the BMW community about people finding it difficult to check the oil level, and all kinds of stories about mystic procedures folks go through to get an accurate reading,... personally, i've never found it difficult to do a visual check of the sight glass while i'm standing next to the machine while i'm gearing up before riding. (admittedly, this is while on the main stand; checking oil level on the boxer isn't possible with the machine on the side stand.) of course, with the amount of oil that the ancient design boxer chews through when subjected to ahem! 'spirited' riding, an oil check before every ride is mandatory, and almost always results in couple of glugs off the of oil bottle. cheers! e '02 BMW GS Adv - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting video
May have. FI is one thing I'll grant them. My FIL has an Ultra Classic with FI and its pretty sweet. He his the starter and it starts and idles perfectly every time. My Honda requires much fiddling until its ready to go. Of course my Honda will do 100mph with another gear left to go into... Anyway the downside is Harley apparently used cheap gasket material where the air intake (its not a carb, but some sort of metering dohicky) mates to the jug. On FIL's bike the gasket dried out, failed and he all of a sudden had a runaway engine. Fortunately he had great presence of mind and saved the farm with the killswitch. -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:37:17 +0930 From: Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting video To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Haven't HD done away with pushrods? Every now and then I pop into the local dealer to check out the new models and seem to remember that FI and OHC's are now pretty much standard. Curt Raymond wrote: I appreciate old technology I really do but Harley's potato, potato sound is created by 2 rods on the same crank throw so made because they were two dumb to figure out how to make more than one throw. Harleys are underpowered, over shakey badly handling black eyes on the American record. So Victory bikes handle better, go faster and are alot cheaper. In the last few years Harley has focused on pumping out the image so much that they've diluted it. Too many Doctors and Lawyers are now in that the real bikers are moving on. /rant -Curt - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Schadenfreude
We had some crazy big rains a couple years ago that would flood the streets like that. The 4x4 crowd thought that was just the greatest thing to go blasting through. The wife and I were driving home from breakfast one morning pushing 4-6 of water in a nice bow wave with my 240D when a bunch of 'em with their big tires blasts by us. I just slowed down and let 'em go. We get about a mile up and here's the whole crowd in the middle of the road going nowhere. We puttered right through in 2nd gear, about 20 mph... -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:15:03 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Schadenfreude To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So this evening we had some good thunderstorms roll through the 'hood, and dumped maybe 2.5-3 in an hour or so. Our streets are designed to work with the storm sewers to collect and meter water into them, so the streets tend to fill up 6 or so and then start running over into the grass. So I look outside a little while ago and there is this guy in a suit standing in the middle of that next to his Maserati Coupe which was becalmed and dead in the water. Flatbed showed up a few minutes later --R - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
Ahh the W116. I think a diesel 300SD W116 is about the only car I have lust in my heart for. A friend has 2 and I've been trying to get him to part with one. Even found a gasser 116 to trade since his wife drives very few miles per week. We traded cars for a weeked a couple years ago and I blew all the carbon out of his car on my 55 mile round trip commute. I should offer it to him as a bi-yearly service... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:06:32 -0400 From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8/28/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies love them. We purchased an '84 - regent gray with biscuit interior - My wife sure does. She wants an XJ-6 (only round head lights on a true Jag, please. Phhbt, square headlights. Ha!) as badly as I want a W116. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
Now that you mention it I saw a newer wagon the other day and thought it was a fine looking car... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:09:21 -0400 From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 8/28/07, Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no doubt that the Jags are a better looking car than the Mercs but under the skin it is another story. I wouldn't go quite that far. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all, and I happen to think Mercedes pre 90's are very good looking cars. Though, the newest aero shaped one is starting to grow on me. There is one I see on a semi regular basis on my trip to and from work. Though a 108 or a 116 still beats it in my opinion. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
Hans Neureiter wrote: Minor things. The oil filter housing (xx.950 is mechanical instrumentation, xx.951 is electric), the speed control linkage and the vacuum pump drive. Also, the upper oil pan is different. Only matters if you are going W126/W123 - W116. Oil pan will hit front subframe. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: More virtual pillory!
Yeah well. I'm under the impression getting BMW bikes onto the center stand is relatively painless. I've seen lots of them on them even in parking lots. I think so. I rode my dad's (K100?) a few years back and it was pretty nicely set up. Jap bikes, well my Jap bikes anyway are a serious PITA to get onto the center stand. Even the Kawi 454 which is a small bike I've nearly dropped while trying to get on the centerstand. My Honda CB900f, forget it, 2 man job. There seems to be a trick to it, IIRC my CB750F was a real PITA until I threw caution to the winds. You have to tread heavily on the stick-up knob coming up off the stand while the bike is straight vertical yet seems (to the cautious such as myself) to be ready to fall over the other way. Ignore that and just pull up on whatever it is there at the rear to pull up on, one-handed. (The other's on the handgrip.) It just rides right up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] home rustoleum results
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Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
I wouldn't go quite that far. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all, and I happen to think Mercedes pre 90's are very good looking cars. Indeed. I think the ass end of most Jags is g-leeey. Except that on the right ragtop it really looks nice. Pre-90's MB work for me, except for the rear of the 124 non-wagon. I loathe wedge-shaped short-throw low-loading trunk styling nearly as much as I loathe the pinched-off dog-doo look of that 80's caddy trunk. Though, the newest aero shaped one is starting to grow on me. There is one I see on a semi regular basis on my trip to and from work. Though a 108 or a 116 still beats it in my opinion. It's probably the era and my age, but the 107 and 116 are my favorites. A nice 100 will do, too, as does a 114 convertible. I think a 123 convertible is also pretty sweet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!
Curt Raymond wrote: Jap bikes, well my Jap bikes anyway are a serious PITA to get onto the center stand. I could centerstand a Gold Wing 1300 or a CB900F when I weighed 135lb. Had to, I was a Honda mechanic at the time. Sometimes it got a bit scary when some joker with an Aspencade dropped off his bike with 100lb of luggage in it. I did not enjoy test riding V65s or full dress GWs. Stand to the left of the bike, right hand under the edge of the seat or on the grab rail, left hand on the bars. Put your right foot on the tab on the centerstand and swing the stand down to the ground. With both sides of the centerstand on the ground, press down onto the stand with your foot while lifting up and to the back with your right hand. Your foot on the stand helps lever the bike up, and as you lift on the saddle, you get heavier while the bike gets lighter. I had to be taught this by the service manager. I'd had my own bikes since I was 15, but nothing heavy enough that I couldn't just pull back on the bars to get it on the stand. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
the 116 is a car that has NEVER done anything for me, but yet has this huge cult following in the mercedes crowd. On 8/29/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't go quite that far. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all, and I happen to think Mercedes pre 90's are very good looking cars. Indeed. I think the ass end of most Jags is g-leeey. Except that on the right ragtop it really looks nice. Pre-90's MB work for me, except for the rear of the 124 non-wagon. I loathe wedge-shaped short-throw low-loading trunk styling nearly as much as I loathe the pinched-off dog-doo look of that 80's caddy trunk. Though, the newest aero shaped one is starting to grow on me. There is one I see on a semi regular basis on my trip to and from work. Though a 108 or a 116 still beats it in my opinion. It's probably the era and my age, but the 107 and 116 are my favorites. A nice 100 will do, too, as does a 114 convertible. I think a 123 convertible is also pretty sweet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the 116 is a car that has NEVER done anything for me, but yet has this huge cult following in the mercedes crowd. A few years ago there was this really nice '79 300SD on a car lot here. Odometer showed 79,000 miles and the condition of the car did not contracdict that. However the dealer was in the stratosphere on the $$ he wanted and outlasted my offers until someone else showed up and was willing to pay him what he wanted. The ACC did not work (Chrysler servo system) but the car was nearly flawless inside and out otherwise. Sometimes I regret not opening up my wallet at the time -- I really like the look of the W116 too. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home rustoleum results
Where does it say that this is Rustoleum? Did you get that from another link to the page? Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/paint/?start=0 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
i don't believe you can buy anything off a lot and not get ripped off, so i think you did best by not opening up your wallet. i had the same things happen to me with an old sig .380 at a pawn shop . guy wanted 399 and was willing to take 350, but i insisted on 299. we did this for a while until some dude walked in with holy cow! i've always wanted one of these! do you know how rare these are? and happily paid 399 for it. On 8/29/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the 116 is a car that has NEVER done anything for me, but yet has this huge cult following in the mercedes crowd. A few years ago there was this really nice '79 300SD on a car lot here. Odometer showed 79,000 miles and the condition of the car did not contracdict that. However the dealer was in the stratosphere on the $$ he wanted and outlasted my offers until someone else showed up and was willing to pay him what he wanted. The ACC did not work (Chrysler servo system) but the car was nearly flawless inside and out otherwise. Sometimes I regret not opening up my wallet at the time -- I really like the look of the W116 too. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home rustoleum results
it's tremclad, with is canuck trade name for rustoleum. the dude is famous in cheap car painting circles online and his story is quite well known. On 8/29/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does it say that this is Rustoleum? Did you get that from another link to the page? Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/paint/?start=0 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm?
Craig, You need Java installed to see it. Russ W. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:19:18 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kcci.com/schoolnet8/index.html Select Jefferson webcam. Camera is 1/4 mile north of me. I see nothing. It's black. Even on the Daily webcamera lapses I see nothing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home rustoleum results
$10,000 in labor to shoot $50 worth of paint. Kinda doesn't make sense does it? Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/29/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/paint/?start=0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
I am here to tell you that it might have a following, but not a HUGE following. I cant hardly give away 116 parts much less sell them. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes the 116 is a car that has NEVER done anything for me, but yet has this huge cult following in the mercedes crowd. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home rustoleum results
Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: $10,000 in labor to shoot $50 worth of paint. Kinda doesn't make sense does it? If you have the time but not the equipment, maybe. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I am here to tell you that it might have a following, but not a HUGE following. I cant hardly give away 116 parts much less sell them. What do you have? ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: More virtual pillory!
hi Curt! it's painless if you do it right, otherwise you can break your back trying. Mitch pretty much described the way i do it; with proper technique and just a little practice, it makes putting 600 lbs. of bike up look like a piece of cake. key to note is that you don't just pull it up; it's an up-and-back motion all at the same time. (worked for me on all my other bikes, to; many of which were Japanese,...) cheers! e Curt Raymond wrote: Yeah well. I'm under the impression getting BMW bikes onto the center stand is relatively painless. I've seen lots of them on them even in parking lots. Jap bikes, well my Jap bikes anyway are a serious PITA to get onto the center stand. Even the Kawi 454 which is a small bike I've nearly dropped while trying to get on the centerstand. My Honda CB900f, forget it, 2 man job. Definately 2 MEN, my wife is no help at all -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:05:09 -0700 From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: More virtual pillory! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi Curt! there's much grousing in the BMW community about people finding it difficult to check the oil level, and all kinds of stories about mystic procedures folks go through to get an accurate reading,... personally, i've never found it difficult to do a visual check of the sight glass while i'm standing next to the machine while i'm gearing up before riding. (admittedly, this is while on the main stand; checking oil level on the boxer isn't possible with the machine on the side stand.) of course, with the amount of oil that the ancient design boxer chews through when subjected to ahem! 'spirited' riding, an oil check before every ride is mandatory, and almost always results in couple of glugs off the of oil bottle. cheers! e '02 BMW GS Adv - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/29/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the 116 is a car that has NEVER done anything for me, but yet has this huge cult following in the mercedes crowd. I expect that the cult following is more for the 6.9 than the looks. Though in my case, I do like the look and stance of a 116. (Though I hate the headlights. Has to have euro headlights) -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/29/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am here to tell you that it might have a following, but not a HUGE following. I cant hardly give away 116 parts much less sell them. If I locate the 116 I'm looking for, I guess you'll just have to give them all to me. Plus SH of course. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WAS Jaguar mistakes NOW W116 Looks and Parts
On 8/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I am here to tell you that it might have a following, but not a HUGE following. I cant hardly give away 116 parts much less sell them. What do you have? ;) If you have LHD Euro Headlights I want 'em even though I don't currently own any Mercedes, much less the W116 they would be for. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Jaguar mistakes NOW W116 Looks and Parts
Ed Booher wrote: On 8/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I am here to tell you that it might have a following, but not a HUGE following. I cant hardly give away 116 parts much less sell them. What do you have? ;) If you have LHD Euro Headlights I want 'em even though I don't currently own any Mercedes, much less the W116 they would be for. $40. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=197995 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] uninsured/underinsured
What company? I will give them my business. On 8/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If somebody hits your car and runs away, and you don't have collision, you're going to pay for the repairs out of your own pocket.Uninsured only covers you when the other (uninsured) party is known. Not in Washington State. About 15 years back an unknown vehicle put a $1200 dent in my Porsche. I had $500 deductible at the time so my company paid $700. Some months later they called me, saying that in reviewing my paid claim, they decided they owed me some more money under my uninsured coverage and sent a substantial check. Pemco. RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I expect that the cult following is more for the 6.9 than the looks. Though in my case, I do like the look and stance of a 116. (Though I hate the headlights. Has to have euro headlights) I actually don't mind the look of the separated high/low sealed beam DOT lights on the W116. The single sealed beam and fogs on the W123 are ugly. Fortunately mine was converted to Euro lights. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Schadenfreude
Coming across a drowned herd of 4X4s driven by inconsdierate boors - priceless! On 8/29/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had some crazy big rains a couple years ago that would flood the streets like that. The 4x4 crowd thought that was just the greatest thing to go blasting through. The wife and I were driving home from breakfast one morning pushing 4-6 of water in a nice bow wave with my 240D when a bunch of 'em with their big tires blasts by us. I just slowed down and let 'em go. We get about a mile up and here's the whole crowd in the middle of the road going nowhere. We puttered right through in 2nd gear, about 20 mph... -Curt Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:15:03 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Schadenfreude To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So this evening we had some good thunderstorms roll through the 'hood, and dumped maybe 2.5-3 in an hour or so. Our streets are designed to work with the storm sewers to collect and meter water into them, so the streets tend to fill up 6 or so and then start running over into the grass. So I look outside a little while ago and there is this guy in a suit standing in the middle of that next to his Maserati Coupe which was becalmed and dead in the water. Flatbed showed up a few minutes later --R - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Jaguar mistakes NOW W116 Looks and Parts
On 8/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have LHD Euro Headlights I want 'em even though I don't currently own any Mercedes, much less the W116 they would be for. $40. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=197995 Unfortunately the pic is named 126Euroheadlights.jpg so I'm assuming they won't fit 116 -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/29/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I actually don't mind the look of the separated high/low sealed beam DOT lights on the W116. The single sealed beam and fogs on the W123 are ugly. Fortunately mine was converted to Euro lights. Allan What I hate, on both the 116 and the 123, is the hole for the headlights is obviously the Euro rectangle. Just as obviously they weren't about to have completely different sheetmetal for U.S. so we get these completely after thought plastic pieces to fit the round headlights into the Euro opening. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Jaguar mistakes NOW W116 Looks and Parts
Ed Booher wrote: Unfortunately the pic is named 126Euroheadlights.jpg so I'm assuming they won't fit 116 They look like the ones on my W116, and they are more square than the W126 euros at this site... http://www.katmac.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODStore_Code=KIProduct_Code=W126HLCategory_Code=EHQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/29/07, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get these completely after thought plastic pieces to fit the round headlights into the Euro opening. It just feels tacky to me. Like the seatbelts in the 90's when the U.S. said all cars must have passive restraint, and some couldn't retool for air bags and others just wouldn't so the seat belts were placed in a motorized track. The Mitsu Eclipse is the one that comes immediately to mind. The Canadian Eclipse had the regular fixed seat belts. The U.S. had the motorized ones. Tacky, tacky, tacky. And, the damn motors broke so now you see some of these things with the seat belts stuck in the middle of the track. Complete after thought. I may be a little OCD when it comes to cars, but just the thought of it makes my skin crawl. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Jaguar mistakes NOW W116 Looks and Parts
On 8/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Booher wrote: Unfortunately the pic is named 126Euroheadlights.jpg so I'm assuming they won't fit 116 They look like the ones on my W116, and they are more square than the W126 euros at this site... Hmmm I'll have to join the site to talk to the guy. That was your insidious plan all along, wasn't it? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
I have half a dozen or more 116's. Nobody buys those parts. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I am here to tell you that it might have a following, but not a HUGE following. I cant hardly give away 116 parts much less sell them. What do you have? ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS Jaguar mistakes NOW W116 Looks and Parts
Ed Booher wrote: Hmmm I'll have to join the site to talk to the guy. That was your insidious plan all along, wasn't it? Nah, I just happened to see that a few days ago... and since I don't need any for my car figured I'd share ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/29/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have half a dozen or more 116's. Nobody buys those parts. Enough to build me a good running *one* 116? :) -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
On 8/29/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago there was this really nice '79 300SD on a car lot here. Odometer showed 79,000 miles and the condition of the car did not contracdict that. However the dealer was in the stratosphere on the $$ he wanted and outlasted my offers until someone else showed up and was willing to pay him what he wanted. The ACC did not work (Chrysler servo system) but the car was nearly flawless inside and out otherwise. Sometimes I regret not opening up my wallet at the time -- I really like the look of the W116 too. On the other end of the spectrum I saw a 6.9 on a car lot for $1,999 a couple of years ago. Didn't drive it, but it was in decent shape cosmetically and there were no puddles underneath, nor was the rear end sagging indicating dead hydraulics. If I were smarter I probably would have bought it to drive for a summer and then part out on eBay. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I have half a dozen or more 116's. Nobody buys those parts. Do any of them have good interiors? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] home rustoleum results
I have not done this with a car (yet) but have had pretty decent results in painting things like the tank on my air compressor. The foamy roller leaves a texture similar to the orange peel effect of spraying. The article says that the trick is to thin to the right consistency and I believe it as I have been getting reasonable results without thinning at all. It certainly is much better than using a brush. Easy cleanup too. I use a piece of aluminum foil in the small paint tray and then just toss it out so I don't have to clean it up. Throw away the foamy roller after it dries and no cleanup apart from the lip of the can tha you poured the paint out of. Only down side is that the silly little rollers are about $1 each and I have not found any source that sells them in bunches. Normally see them in packets of 1 to 6. I would buy a bag of 100 if they were cheap and good quality. My son has an old Jeep with lots of rusty spots. We are planning to use the foamy roller treatment on it to slow the rust and make it look a bit better. Not looking for show quality. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Banned List Subject: Re: [MBZ] home rustoleum results Where does it say that this is Rustoleum? Did you get that from another link to the page? Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d13/69martin/paint/?start=0 -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
I pulled the ignition module back out, cleaned behind it, and put thermal grease between it and the fender wall. I put it back, and replaced the missing third mounting screw with one from the donor car so that it would be clamped down securely for good thermal contact. That took an hour that I didn't account for, I should have done it right the first time. I then pulled the ignition coil out and repaired its mount. One of the captive nuts was pulling through the fender wall so I hammered it back down. While I was there I rerouted the wiring to the coil so that I could put on the plastic coil cover from the donor car. (All wires exit the cover from the same side, and none of the ring terminals can hang over the side.) The AC/fuel heat exchanger is supposed to clamp to this same mount, but the clamping strap was gone. I fabricated a new one from the AC/fuel heat exchanger mount from the donor car, using the grinder, BFH, pliers, and the anvil. It clamps nicely around the new foam insulation, and doesn't even look too bad. With all this done everything is much more solidly mounted than before. Unfortunately during all this I managed to break a nipple off of the vacuum valve on the vapor tank, so I had to pull that off and repair it. I used cyanoacrylate glue to tack it back into place, then potted it in Shoe Goo for strength. We'll see if it holds up once it has set, it may not be strong enough. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
I like them too. Its just that they are usually rusted out and beat up. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes On 8/29/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the 116 is a car that has NEVER done anything for me, but yet has this huge cult following in the mercedes crowd. I expect that the cult following is more for the 6.9 than the looks. Though in my case, I do like the look and stance of a 116. (Though I hate the headlights. Has to have euro headlights) -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rear seal
I got Gump back and she runs great. I will have to check all the connections, because she rattles more than I remember, but what the heck? Shop did find that the engine rear seal is leaking. Is this a huge issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
sure --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I have half a dozen or more 116's. Nobody buys those parts. Do any of them have good interiors? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes
well, maybe --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaguar mistakes On 8/29/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have half a dozen or more 116's. Nobody buys those parts. Enough to build me a good running *one* 116? :) -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] best analytical synopsis i've ever read online
there is a lot of talk online of cheating in poker and a lot of arguments over this question. there is a guy on usenet who goes by the tag of russg who is a central accuser in this discussion. the debate has been raging for years. i read this recently: Russ says pigs fly. Some other folks say prove pigs don't fly. Somebody tosses a pig off the roof. It doesn't fly. Some folks say that pig chose not to fly, doesn't prove anything. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300CD stuck in first gear (goes in reverse)
Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first gear! She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should I do when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck kickdown switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved (perhaps a new switch). It moves in reverse. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] blog on the Bismark
This is a list of all the parts I transplanted from the xx.951 to the xx.950 so it fits the 126: Valve cover, complete with control linkage, switch over valves, etc Thermostat housing Vacuum pump and drive Oil filter housing Motor mount arms Kick down cable The upper oil pan is different. For example the xx.950 does not have the port for the air cleaner oil drain. I left the pan and plugged the drain in the air cleaner. On 8/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: Minor things. The oil filter housing (xx.950 is mechanical instrumentation, xx.951 is electric), the speed control linkage and the vacuum pump drive. Also, the upper oil pan is different. Only matters if you are going W126/W123 - W116. Oil pan will hit front subframe. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
It seems than at Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:44:15 -0700, Jim wrote: I pulled the ignition module back out, cleaned behind it, and put thermal grease between it and the fender wall. I put it back, and replaced the missing third mounting screw with one from the donor car so that it would be clamped down securely for good thermal contact. That took an hour that I didn't account for, I should have done it right the first time. Maybe _that_ why the other one failed. Not just 'cause the ignition was left on, but because the poor heat sinking. I used cyanoacrylate glue to tack it back into place, then potted it in Shoe Goo for strength. We'll see if it holds up once it has set, it may not be strong enough. Are you still able to get plain ShoeGoo? The shops around here seem to only have various advanced formulas. Like Household, and Shop, etc. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bimby / injector bypass hoses
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:23:13 -0500, you wrote: Is there a special nipple grease or something that I am not using? Dr. Hefenrefer's Udder Ointment ?? -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!
That technique works for just about any Jap bike, I believe. I fought with my XV1100 Virago, actually dropping it once when I tried (I was under the bike, so it didn't hit the ground - it just smashed the crap out of me) to get it on the center stand. Finally, an old grizzled Harley guy I knew showed me the technique below - if he weighed 180 wet I would have been amazed. I cheat a bit when I park it in the garage - I took a piece of 4/4 oak about 8 long and 3 wide and screwed it to the garage floor where the back tire goes. I back it onto the piece of wood, which raises it off the floor about 2, put the center stand down and pull back. It comes right up with this approach. It saves a lot on my back and allows me to park it in a pretty narrow space where it's tough to get to the side of the bike with enough room to pull it up. Dan --- Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could centerstand a Gold Wing 1300 or a CB900F when I weighed 135lb. Had to, I was a Honda mechanic at the time. Sometimes it got a bit scary when some joker with an Aspencade dropped off his bike with 100lb of luggage in it. I did not enjoy test riding V65s or full dress GWs. Stand to the left of the bike, right hand under the edge of the seat or on the grab rail, left hand on the bars. Put your right foot on the tab on the centerstand and swing the stand down to the ground. With both sides of the centerstand on the ground, press down onto the stand with your foot while lifting up and to the back with your right hand. Your foot on the stand helps lever the bike up, and as you lift on the saddle, you get heavier while the bike gets lighter. I had to be taught this by the service manager. I'd had my own bikes since I was 15, but nothing heavy enough that I couldn't just pull back on the bars to get it on the stand. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW W116 Looks and Parts
Hi all, I'm one of the 116 cult. But, went gasser last year as many know.. If it gets thru, here is a pic of the mistress, my 300SD, while she and I were in Hawaii. Chuck  ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Schadenfreude
Last New Years driving back from CO in the blizzard aftermath, seeing all the swells in their new big Subs and Expeditions and Lexi and whatnot balled up in the ditch, Hey honey, this four wheel drive goes really well in the snow and ice! Yeah, but it won't stop or steer any better --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Coming across a drowned herd of 4X4s driven by inconsdierate boors - priceless! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] sinking in the mud?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-300-TD_W0QQitemZ220144840734QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight - insurance q'
i can't get my family out of my car either :( On 8/28/07, billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John - I have not checked on this in several years, but I think that is covered. While it is very rare that anyone other than family is in my car, it could happen. BillR -Original Message- From: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 28, 2007 6:47 PM To: billr [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight - insurance q' So what about your passengers? On 8/28/07, billr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FL I save a good chunk by not having stacked coverage on medical. I already have very good medical insurance so don't have that on my car policy. All they would pay is some additional on the deductable anyway. It's not legal to turn in a claim to two companies, though it is done, snd you can actually make money that way - or end up with a criminal record. I just save my $ with only my health coverage to take care of accidents. BillR -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 28, 2007 2:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight I suppose. Here if you have full coverage it pays if the other guy does not have insurance, and the uninsured pays the medical part if any. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight hi Kaleb! that's not the case in Calif.; i'm sure that (as with all things insurance related) it varies from state-to-state, but i've had Uninsured Motorist coverage pay for property damage here. of course the scumbags actually wanted to argue about it first, saying (with a straight face): can you prove the other guy didn't have insurance?. when i pointed out that it was a state requirement for drivers to prove that they *did* have insurance (something they hadn't been able to do for the officer on the scene), they finally sent me my money, but they even dragged that out into 2 separate checks...! point is, they did *eventually* pay; but like with every other situation where the insurance company is paying you, i had to disbelieve what they told me first and make it clear i wasn't going to settle for their first story. cheers! e Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: uninsured motorist only pays for your medical bills of the other person does not have insurance. It does not cover property at all. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] got my coupe back tonight Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: comp and uninsured motorist is great and crucial if you live in a high crime urban area. a lot of drivers out there have neither license nor insurance. in some areas, no green card either. when they hit you, they will run and you will be screwed without uninsured. If somebody hits your car and runs away, and you don't have collision, you're going to pay for the repairs out of your own pocket. Uninsured only covers you when the other (uninsured) party is known. i've now lost 2 cars to criminal gang activity since living in atlanta. you guys who live outside of the cities and behind iron gates have no idea of how your sick liberal policies have destroyed this country over the past 30 years. for those of us who have to pay the price for your insane schemes because we can't afford to by insulation and actually have to be out on the streets and interact with the animals you have created, comprehensive is also an absolute must. Yes, comprehensive covers non-collision damages such as theft, vandalism, and certain accidents such as hitting a deer. Otherwise, any damage cause by something colliding with your car generally falls under collision. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD stuck in first gear (goes in reverse)
Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first gear! She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should I do when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck kickdown switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved (perhaps a new switch). It moves in reverse. I'd suspect the switch first. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL
Maybe _that_ why the other one failed. Not just 'cause the ignition was left on, but because the poor heat sinking. Let's hope so, but I think any more extended key-on testing will be done with the module unplugged! Are you still able to get plain ShoeGoo? The shops around here seem to only have various advanced formulas. Like Household, and Shop, etc. I have yet to be convinced that there is _any_ difference in what's actually in all those different tubes. Duff light beer anyone? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal
issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. Jim is correct, as I recall, it is like three nails sticking up into the seal that hold it from turning, The crankshaft must be lifted away from the seal to remove/install it. In my younger days, I pulled the engine on my 65 300SE, over a weekend, just to change the rear seal. I would let it drip now! It really does little harm, though outdoor cats will come in with a coat full of the dirty stuff once in a while. Now some people have had good luck trying different oils like Valvoline's hi mileage oil, which is designed to swell up seals. Even Mobil 1 is said to have some benefits for stopping seal leaks, though it will run out of crack that would stop conventional oils. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] generator question
Son just bought a used motorhome. The AC generator is running a bit rough and is a bit too loud. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/965-0128.pdf Any suggestions on what to do? And no, he won't replace it with a diesel unit (already asked). For noise suppression, I suggested he attach fiberglass insulation everywhere in the enclosure but at the air intakes. Any overheating issues with doing that? D. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator question
It's an Onan Emerald. Get out your wallet. or his wallet, for that matter. Dan --- Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Son just bought a used motorhome. The AC generator is running a bit rough and is a bit too loud. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/965-0128.pdf Any suggestions on what to do? And no, he won't replace it with a diesel unit (already asked). For noise suppression, I suggested he attach fiberglass insulation everywhere in the enclosure but at the air intakes. Any overheating issues with doing that? D. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator question
Most of the time most of the noise is coming from the air intake muffler. I'd make sure that both are in good shape. The bit rough could be tune-up or carb related (you hope). These things tend to sit for years and the carb will gum up. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Banned List Subject: [MBZ] generator question Son just bought a used motorhome. The AC generator is running a bit rough and is a bit too loud. http://don.homelinux.net/~don/965-0128.pdf Any suggestions on what to do? And no, he won't replace it with a diesel unit (already asked). For noise suppression, I suggested he attach fiberglass insulation everywhere in the enclosure but at the air intakes. Any overheating issues with doing that? D. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
The issue with the seal swelling oil is that it's not selective will swell all seals. Then when the old, newly swollen seals return back to normal you have more leaks than you had before. It's a real PIA when this happens to the front crank seal. Please don't ask me how I know this.. Replace the seal or put a piece of cardboard under the car. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. Jim is correct, as I recall, it is like three nails sticking up into the seal that hold it from turning, The crankshaft must be lifted away from the seal to remove/install it. In my younger days, I pulled the engine on my 65 300SE, over a weekend, just to change the rear seal. I would let it drip now! It really does little harm, though outdoor cats will come in with a coat full of the dirty stuff once in a while. Now some people have had good luck trying different oils like Valvoline's hi mileage oil, which is designed to swell up seals. Even Mobil 1 is said to have some benefits for stopping seal leaks, though it will run out of crack that would stop conventional oils. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!
I know the technique, but there is something that really bothers me about standing on the left side of a heavy motorcycle, tipping it straight, and then yanking on it. I am a large and fairly strong individual, but if the bike tipped to the right, there is NO way my biceps would yank it back to vertical. My technique. Have the bike on left side stand. Put right foot on the center stand. Pick the ass-end of the bike up. Flip down the center stand and let the bike rest on it. Stand back and wish I had a cold beer in the refrigerator. Check for chest pains. Take a couple of Ibuprofen. I ONLY center-stand when I need to do so for maintenance. And when that happens, I ask the wife (the sacrificial wife?) to hold the right handlebar in case the bike tips. ... I have also been known to call the brother-in-law over to do it for me. He gets a kick out of snatching the bike up onto the stand and saying, What, this? ... But he too has admitted to trepidation when he had to snatch his Gold Wing up to center stand. On 8/29/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Jap bikes, well my Jap bikes anyway are a serious PITA to get onto the center stand. I could centerstand a Gold Wing 1300 or a CB900F when I weighed 135lb. Had to, I was a Honda mechanic at the time. Sometimes it got a bit scary when some joker with an Aspencade dropped off his bike with 100lb of luggage in it. I did not enjoy test riding V65s or full dress GWs. Stand to the left of the bike, right hand under the edge of the seat or on the grab rail, left hand on the bars. Put your right foot on the tab on the centerstand and swing the stand down to the ground. With both sides of the centerstand on the ground, press down onto the stand with your foot while lifting up and to the back with your right hand. Your foot on the stand helps lever the bike up, and as you lift on the saddle, you get heavier while the bike gets lighter. I had to be taught this by the service manager. I'd had my own bikes since I was 15, but nothing heavy enough that I couldn't just pull back on the bars to get it on the stand. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator question
--- Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the time most of the noise is coming from the air intake muffler. I'd make sure that both are in good shape. True. The majority of noise complaints for RV gensets are due to some sort of mechanical conflict, where something is not properly mounted or a mount has failed and some nimrod replaced it with the wrong thing. Vibration isolation is a real science on these things, and doing something like replacing a solid exhaust hanger with a rubber one (just the opposite that one would expect) can cause a boatload of vibration to be transmitted into the frame. The bit rough could be tune-up or carb related (you hope). These things tend to sit for years and the carb will gum up. Also very true. I can recall one day when I was in the office taking calls. A guy from the East was calling to complain about his generator not starting after being stored for over 6 months. Why, it should start right up, dang it! Uh, sir, would you expect your car to start right up after storing it outdoors in your yard for the winter? You're damned right I would! I'm really sorry sir, but I can't help you. I would suggest you visit your local Kohler dealer and have them take a look at it. Typical RV owner. Only thing worse was sailboat owners. The wind is free, so everything else should be, too. Heh. Dan Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps
Sulfur is an anti-flux, that is, it does the opposite of promoting welding. That is its function in Extreme Pressure Lubricants and also, I suspect, in operation of old rotary Bosch IP's. IMHO, it's a poor deslulfurization process that removes something besides sulfur. I'd need to hear that the latest process removes not only the sulfur, but the goodies that lubricate, with some explanation of process, from a chemical engineer or someone similarly qualified. Paraffin is a generic name that refers to hydrocarbons having a particular type of structure. There are a whole series of paraffins of different molecular weights. Paraffin is not one chemical. That's all the chemical engineering I know or even suspect. Someone else will have to take it farther. Peter Merle wrote: It's the sulphur that's the lubricant , not pariffin PEter Sulfur is NOT a lubricant (where did you get that idea?). When sulfur is removed from the diesel fraction of crude by most usual methods it also remove the fractions that are the best lubricants. These CAN be replaced, but until forced to, most refiners didn't. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
61x engines have a rope seal retained by a spike, so you have to remove (or at least lift) the crank to replace it. You can just do the half in the pan if you want, but likely it will still leak. All later engines have a rubber lip seal, requires removal of the flywheel to replace. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sinking in the mud?
That would not be a TD, and it looks like he tried to take a little off-road excursion without airing down.. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-300-TD_W0QQitemZ220144840734QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6783QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps
The lubricating qualities of the sulfur in diesel fuel are in the sulfur containing organic molecules. There is no free sulfur dissolved in diesel fuel, it's all part of some carbon containing molecule (there are many). It's removed by breaking up those molecules and precipitating out the molecular sulfur. Those sulfur containing molecules provide most of the lubricating qualities of diesel fuel, and are in fact quite good high pressure lubricants (much better than the paraffins or linear hydrocarbons, which make up 90+ % of the bulk diesel). Taking them out greatly reduces the lubricating nature of the fuel. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Insurance coverage
Comprehensive also covers driver stupidity. I opened the hood, started to pour in some STP, and let the hood down (but not to where the safety latch could be hooked) to conserve heat. It was maybe 35 deg at the time. I went and got a cuppa coffee, drank it, came back, and drove off. I made it about 2 blocks before the hood came up, whacked the windshield (at least a million pieces) , bent the hood hinges (about $700 new from the Benzes) and corners and the cowl top panel below the windshield. I was sick. I had to go back and buy some bungees right before the convenience store closed to tie the hood down so I could drive on home 50 miles away. 40 mph tops, and then the bungees would start to stretch. The wounded hood would bob up and down. A day later I though maybe there was coverage and called. No problem. Cost about a grand to fix the car. Shop took too long to fix car, but otherwise OK. I found a pair of used hood hinges for $20, one of the outstanding bargains of 2007. signed, Stupid ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
Peter, If it's a rope seal then there is an easy fix that we used to do all the time. Use a drift punch to drive both ends of the existing rope seal up into the slot. Cut off enough of the new rope seal to push up plus 1/8. Use the same punch to seat the new 2 end pieces. Replace the pan gaskets re-install the pan. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace 61x engines have a rope seal retained by a spike, so you have to remove (or at least lift) the crank to replace it. You can just do the half in the pan if you want, but likely it will still leak. All later engines have a rubber lip seal, requires removal of the flywheel to replace. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance coverage
Welcome to the stupid club - Cutting off middle finger of my left hand at the first joint (on a 1965 Chevy cooling fan) joined me to the club. At least your adventure was a little less painful. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:05 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Insurance coverage Comprehensive also covers driver stupidity. I opened the hood, started to pour in some STP, and let the hood down (but not to where the safety latch could be hooked) to conserve heat. It was maybe 35 deg at the time. I went and got a cuppa coffee, drank it, came back, and drove off. I made it about 2 blocks before the hood came up, whacked the windshield (at least a million pieces) , bent the hood hinges (about $700 new from the Benzes) and corners and the cowl top panel below the windshield. I was sick. I had to go back and buy some bungees right before the convenience store closed to tie the hood down so I could drive on home 50 miles away. 40 mph tops, and then the bungees would start to stretch. The wounded hood would bob up and down. A day later I though maybe there was coverage and called. No problem. Cost about a grand to fix the car. Shop took too long to fix car, but otherwise OK. I found a pair of used hood hinges for $20, one of the outstanding bargains of 2007. signed, Stupid ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm?
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:45:00 -0500 Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kcci.com/schoolnet8/index.html Select Jefferson webcam. Camera is 1/4 mile north of me. I see nothing. It's black. Even on the Daily webcamera lapses I see nothing. Craig, You need Java installed to see it. I didn't mean I could see no images, just that I could see no weather. The first sentence was a reference to what was visible at midnight in the camera's location: it was black. On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 01:31:21 -0500 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Click on Jefferson, click on Time Lapses, set the date to 28th, set the time to 7pm or so, click Gen Loop. Watch. Jefferson (23 Jul 2003) 2007 August 28 07PM 0 75 Frames Frame Interval 1 minute Yes, that works. Someone was moving the camera around, which is a little disorienting at first. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal
DARN! Rusty has the part for all of $8. Labor at a shop is going to get me killed. Is this an immediate issue? If I can put it off until maybe spring or summer, I will be able to get it past SWMBA and use #1 boy learner permit as excuse to have all the big boys tear into the issue with a working shop and real mechanic oversight. clay On 29 Aug 2007, at 18:14, Jim Cathey wrote: issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
I have been using M1 for three years and 36k miles. The leak seems to have been there for at least the past year (from the persistent oil drip that does not clean away). If it is a non emergent item, I would be happy to sit on it for a few months. BiL has all the standard shop tools and can oversee work so I do not make a real mess of it. Also would allow learning driver to get time under the car and hands dirty so that he has some ownership of his loaned ride for the rest of school before he is off to the Corps. clay On 29 Aug 2007, at 18:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. Jim is correct, as I recall, it is like three nails sticking up into the seal that hold it from turning, The crankshaft must be lifted away from the seal to remove/install it. In my younger days, I pulled the engine on my 65 300SE, over a weekend, just to change the rear seal. I would let it drip now! It really does little harm, though outdoor cats will come in with a coat full of the dirty stuff once in a while. Now some people have had good luck trying different oils like Valvoline's hi mileage oil, which is designed to swell up seals. Even Mobil 1 is said to have some benefits for stopping seal leaks, though it will run out of crack that would stop conventional oils. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
Should I do both front and rear seals at the same time? Might as well work up a bill of goods to tackle when the engine comes out so that I only have to do it once. What is the recommended list? clay On 29 Aug 2007, at 19:03, Tom Hargrave wrote: The issue with the seal swelling oil is that it's not selective will swell all seals. Then when the old, newly swollen seals return back to normal you have more leaks than you had before. It's a real PIA when this happens to the front crank seal. Please don't ask me how I know this.. Replace the seal or put a piece of cardboard under the car. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. Jim is correct, as I recall, it is like three nails sticking up into the seal that hold it from turning, The crankshaft must be lifted away from the seal to remove/install it. In my younger days, I pulled the engine on my 65 300SE, over a weekend, just to change the rear seal. I would let it drip now! It really does little harm, though outdoor cats will come in with a coat full of the dirty stuff once in a while. Now some people have had good luck trying different oils like Valvoline's hi mileage oil, which is designed to swell up seals. Even Mobil 1 is said to have some benefits for stopping seal leaks, though it will run out of crack that would stop conventional oils. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal
Is this an immediate issue? Of course not. Just messy. Unless it's so bad it's spraying onto the clutch or flywheel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
Should I do both front and rear seals at the same time? IIRC, the front seal can be done with the engine still in the car. But it'll never be easier than when it's out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!
Hmmm, The beemer has a foot spot and a hand spot so that all you do is flip the center stand down, engage foot position, move right hand to hand grip, left on bars and yank it onto the stand while exerting pressure with foot. Up it goes. Simple as pie. Getting off the darn stand it another issue clay On 29 Aug 2007, at 19:14, Wonko the Sane wrote: I know the technique, but there is something that really bothers me about standing on the left side of a heavy motorcycle, tipping it straight, and then yanking on it. I am a large and fairly strong individual, but if the bike tipped to the right, there is NO way my biceps would yank it back to vertical. My technique. Have the bike on left side stand. Put right foot on the center stand. Pick the ass-end of the bike up. Flip down the center stand and let the bike rest on it. Stand back and wish I had a cold beer in the refrigerator. Check for chest pains. Take a couple of Ibuprofen. I ONLY center-stand when I need to do so for maintenance. And when that happens, I ask the wife (the sacrificial wife?) to hold the right handlebar in case the bike tips. ... I have also been known to call the brother-in-law over to do it for me. He gets a kick out of snatching the bike up onto the stand and saying, What, this? ... But he too has admitted to trepidation when he had to snatch his Gold Wing up to center stand. On 8/29/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: Jap bikes, well my Jap bikes anyway are a serious PITA to get onto the center stand. I could centerstand a Gold Wing 1300 or a CB900F when I weighed 135lb. Had to, I was a Honda mechanic at the time. Sometimes it got a bit scary when some joker with an Aspencade dropped off his bike with 100lb of luggage in it. I did not enjoy test riding V65s or full dress GWs. Stand to the left of the bike, right hand under the edge of the seat or on the grab rail, left hand on the bars. Put your right foot on the tab on the centerstand and swing the stand down to the ground. With both sides of the centerstand on the ground, press down onto the stand with your foot while lifting up and to the back with your right hand. Your foot on the stand helps lever the bike up, and as you lift on the saddle, you get heavier while the bike gets lighter. I had to be taught this by the service manager. I'd had my own bikes since I was 15, but nothing heavy enough that I couldn't just pull back on the bars to get it on the stand. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
What is the recommended list? It is often easiest to pull the engine and tranny together, so with the set out I could suggest that tranny shifter bushings are easily reachable then. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
The front seal is a whole nother animal. It's a thick heavy seal that is pressed in from the front of the engine with a special tool. You can make the tool from a piece of PVC pipe. The front seal is not accessed by dropping the pan. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace Should I do both front and rear seals at the same time? Might as well work up a bill of goods to tackle when the engine comes out so that I only have to do it once. What is the recommended list? clay On 29 Aug 2007, at 19:03, Tom Hargrave wrote: The issue with the seal swelling oil is that it's not selective will swell all seals. Then when the old, newly swollen seals return back to normal you have more leaks than you had before. It's a real PIA when this happens to the front crank seal. Please don't ask me how I know this.. Replace the seal or put a piece of cardboard under the car. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace issue? Seems it has been leaking for a while with no ill effect to my driving. I understand that the engine will need removal to fix this. Can I not just remove the oil pan and do it that way? No. Rumor has it that there's a big tooth in the seal channel that keeps you from doing the slip-through technique. Jim is correct, as I recall, it is like three nails sticking up into the seal that hold it from turning, The crankshaft must be lifted away from the seal to remove/install it. In my younger days, I pulled the engine on my 65 300SE, over a weekend, just to change the rear seal. I would let it drip now! It really does little harm, though outdoor cats will come in with a coat full of the dirty stuff once in a while. Now some people have had good luck trying different oils like Valvoline's hi mileage oil, which is designed to swell up seals. Even Mobil 1 is said to have some benefits for stopping seal leaks, though it will run out of crack that would stop conventional oils. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands
I know the technique, but there is something that really bothers me about standing on the left side of a heavy motorcycle, tipping it straight, and then yanking on it. I found that scary too, but what really helped was to start to step on the stand's ear while it was tipped a bit to the side. Then straighten it up. You could feel the other side of the stand touch the ground, and your weight on the ear helped keep it from going over-center. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal
Uh, it was spraying very much onto the old clutch and flywheel. I just spent a half hour scrubbing the built up crud out of the bell on the removed transmission. I have not yet taken a close look at the parts that came back, since I spent the day removing M1 ATF from the trunk where it vacated the old trans while in transit home from the shop. Seem ATF is a great solvent and will strip truck bed liner and bondo. clay On 29 Aug 2007, at 21:59, Jim Cathey wrote: Is this an immediate issue? Of course not. Just messy. Unless it's so bad it's spraying onto the clutch or flywheel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
OH, you are just so cute!! Gump has a fresh set of both the bushings at the shift and the transmission.($800 later) I do wonder what else I should work on. I have the manifold gasket set, a nicer manifold, and could use fresh exhaust.. if it would quiet the racket. Should probably do the Vac diaphragm with the engine easy to attack. Any other wear items? On 29 Aug 2007, at 22:02, Jim Cathey wrote: What is the recommended list? It is often easiest to pull the engine and tranny together, so with the set out I could suggest that tranny shifter bushings are easily reachable then. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace
exhaust.. if it would quiet the racket. Should probably do the Vac diaphragm with the engine easy to attack. Any other wear items? It's just that the engines are so easy to work on in these cars when compared to later ones and/or larger engines, there aren't many 'minor' jobs where pulling the engine is necessary. And you don't have need to do a major job. I forget, do you have a block heater in there? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
