[MBZ] carfax needed

2007-08-30 Thread Luther
1G2NE52F32C157114
Thanks. 
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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!

2007-08-30 Thread Mitch Haley


Redghost wrote:
 Getting off the darn stand it another issue

Engage first gear, set tach to 3000rpm, lean back.

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Re: [MBZ] wanna see a tornado storm?

2007-08-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
The camera is on top of this:
http://www.city-data.com/picfilesv/picv12600.php

Mr. Wind was moving the camera around.

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 Yes, that works. Someone was moving the camera around, which is a little
 disorienting at first.

 T




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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace

2007-08-30 Thread Curt Raymond

Mobil 1 was magic on the rear main seal on my Dodge Dakota. It was leaking 
pretty bad too, a quart in 500 miles maybe worse.
Now 5 years later its more like a quart in 3500 miles. I can live with that.

190D is up to a quart in 2500 miles. Thank goodness I was starting to worry 
about my track record with Mobil 1...

-Curt

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Jim is correct, as I recall, it is like three nails sticking up into
 the  
seal that hold it from turning,  The crankshaft must be lifted away
 from  the 
seal to remove/install it.  In my younger days, I pulled the engine on
  my 65 
300SE, over a weekend, just to change the rear seal.  I would  let it
 drip now!  
It really does little harm, though outdoor cats will come  in with a
 coat full 
of the dirty stuff once in a while.
 
Now some people have had good luck trying different oils like
 Valvoline's  hi 
mileage oil, which is designed to swell up seals.  Even Mobil 1 is said
  to 
have some benefits for stopping seal leaks, though it will run out of
 crack  
that would stop conventional oils.  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 267 K miles 
98 ML 320, 151 K  miles

   
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Re: [MBZ] NOW W116 Looks and Parts

2007-08-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Chuck,

Ca ne va pas - no photo.

For those few who don't know, Chuck drove the cleanest, fastest and highest
mileage 300SD W116 on the planet.  He was a legit triple threat on the
autocross, concours, and high mileage badge-earning circuits.  The car was
anthracite with a palomino interior, with an original drive train at 300 K+
miles.  Its transfer to other ownership was mourned in the diesel
community...




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 Hi all,

 I'm one of the 116 cult.  But, went gasser last year as many
 know..

 If it gets thru, here is a pic of the mistress, my 300SD, while she
 and I were in Hawaii.
 Chuck

 
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD stuck in first gear (goes in reverse)

2007-08-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Spot on, Jim.  I removed the floor mat, pushed the pedal to the floor a
couple times, started it up and drove away with smooth shifting in all
gears.  Not sure why it acted up, but to play it safe a new kick down switch
is on the way...

300CD 214 K miles


On 8/29/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Help!  This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first
  gear!
  She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus!  What should
  I do
  when I get home to check it out?  Could it be low fluid?  Stuck
  kickdown
  switch?  This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved
  (perhaps
  a new switch).  It moves in reverse.

 I'd suspect the switch first.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] sinking in the mud?

2007-08-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
He'd probably be able to sell it if not for the missing rubber bumper
strip.  Pretty blue color...

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 That would not be a TD, and it looks like he tried to take a little
 off-road excursion without airing down..

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Speaking of rear seals, does anyone have any experience with the
Chinese-manufactured NEW rear W1223 axles that Rusty is now selling?  The
price is quite compelling...

On 8/30/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uh, it was spraying very much onto the old clutch and flywheel.  I
 just spent a half hour scrubbing the built up crud out of the bell on
 the removed transmission.  I have not yet taken a close look at the
 parts that came back, since I spent the day removing M1 ATF from the
 trunk where it vacated the old trans while in transit home from the
 shop.  Seem ATF is a great solvent and will strip truck bed liner and
 bondo.

 clay



 On 29 Aug 2007, at 21:59, Jim Cathey wrote:

  Is this an immediate issue?
 
  Of course not.  Just messy.  Unless it's so bad it's
  spraying onto the clutch or flywheel.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
I have sold a few hundred of them with no complaints as of yet.


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- Original Message - 
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle


 Speaking of rear seals, does anyone have any experience with the
 Chinese-manufactured NEW rear W1223 axles that Rusty is now selling?  The
 price is quite compelling...
 
 On 8/30/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uh, it was spraying very much onto the old clutch and flywheel.  I
 just spent a half hour scrubbing the built up crud out of the bell on
 the removed transmission.  I have not yet taken a close look at the
 parts that came back, since I spent the day removing M1 ATF from the
 trunk where it vacated the old trans while in transit home from the
 shop.  Seem ATF is a great solvent and will strip truck bed liner and
 bondo.

 clay



 On 29 Aug 2007, at 21:59, Jim Cathey wrote:

  Is this an immediate issue?
 
  Of course not.  Just messy.  Unless it's so bad it's
  spraying onto the clutch or flywheel.
 
  -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Cathey
I began gluing up the driver's door skin and pocket.  I peeled back
the door skin at the bottom, first removing some staples, and then
slid a sheet of mylar (floppy disk) coated with weatherstrip cement
behind it.  That should close up the small tears that are in the lower
rear corner.  I then washed the shattered door pocket plastic with
acetone and glued a large sheet of thin sheet metal (from a tin can
that was in the trash fire) to it with Shoe Goo.  This metal was thin
and malleable enough to conform to the curve, yet not quite so thin
and weak as beer can material would have been.  Clamps were used to
force it to conform more-or-less to the correct shape imposed by the
pocket's plastic.  Several sessions will be required in order to
restore this pocket to good condition, there is also a chunk out of
the corner where the (missing) attachment screw should go.

I then removed the door panel on the passenger side.  As expected, the
missing lock knob piece is not to be found.  However, inside the
bottom of the door was what looks like a window channel slider, and
the roller from the broken door check.  The spring-loaded lock
coupling is bent, and the springs (typically) are broken.  I should be
able to come up with something from the junk box to fix this.

Neither door had any of the vapor barrier left.  Fools.

I then removed the broken door check.  That was, as is often the case,
very difficult as the pin in the door frame was frozen.  Much work
with the BFH and prybars was required.  Some more work with touch-up
paint will now also be required.  The check assembly itself was held
in the door with only two 5mm Allen screws, unlike everything else
I've seen which uses three 10mm hex bolts.

Oooh, I _like_ the 107 door check!  It's steel, with real coil
springs and two rollers that roll over the thick shaped aluminum arm
that's attached to the door frame.  Eminently repairable, in other
words, no wonder it's so expensive!  The axle pin, a long rivet, for
one of the rollers has disappeared.  I should be able to replace it
with a bolt or something and it'll be good as new.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
the chinese are the future of everything.  20 years from now they'll be
making maybach class cars and selling them for $16,450 brand new.

On 8/30/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have sold a few hundred of them with no complaints as of yet.


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 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle


  Speaking of rear seals, does anyone have any experience with the
  Chinese-manufactured NEW rear W1223 axles that Rusty is now
 selling?  The
  price is quite compelling...
 
  On 8/30/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Uh, it was spraying very much onto the old clutch and flywheel.  I
  just spent a half hour scrubbing the built up crud out of the bell on
  the removed transmission.  I have not yet taken a close look at the
  parts that came back, since I spent the day removing M1 ATF from the
  trunk where it vacated the old trans while in transit home from the
  shop.  Seem ATF is a great solvent and will strip truck bed liner and
  bondo.
 
  clay
 
 
 
  On 29 Aug 2007, at 21:59, Jim Cathey wrote:
 
   Is this an immediate issue?
  
   Of course not.  Just messy.  Unless it's so bad it's
   spraying onto the clutch or flywheel.
  
   -- Jim
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] Insurance coverage

2007-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
i've never done anything this stupid.  worst i've ever done to myself was in
my old vw rabbit.  i would tune up that car every 5k miles to keep the
ignition right (who needs that damn electronics!).  i hear a ticking sound.
i look under the hood .  looks like an ignition wire is loose.  with engine
running, i grab hold of wire end.  i learn what 15k volts feel like.  my
chest really starts to hurt and continues to do so for quite a while as i
sit there wondering why i did that.

On 8/29/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Welcome to the stupid club - Cutting off middle finger of my left hand
 at
 the first joint (on a 1965 Chevy cooling fan) joined me to the club. At
 least your adventure was a little less painful.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
 256-656-1924


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 On Behalf Of Robert Bigham
 Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:05 PM
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 Subject: [MBZ] Insurance coverage

 Comprehensive also covers driver stupidity.

 I opened the hood, started to pour in some STP, and let the
 hood down (but not to where the safety latch could be hooked)
 to conserve heat.  It was maybe 35 deg at the time.

 I went and got a cuppa coffee, drank it, came back,
 and drove off.  I made it about 2 blocks before the hood came up,
 whacked the windshield (at least a million pieces) , bent the hood
 hinges (about $700 new from the Benzes) and corners and the
 cowl top panel below the windshield.

 I was sick.  I had to go back and buy some bungees right before
 the convenience store closed to tie the hood down so I could drive
 on home 50 miles away.  40 mph tops, and then the bungees would
 start to stretch. The wounded hood would bob up and down.

 A day later I though maybe there was coverage and called.
 No problem.

 Cost about a grand to fix the car.  Shop took too long to fix car,
 but otherwise OK.  I found a pair of used hood hinges for $20,
 one of the outstanding bargains of 2007.

 signed, Stupid



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[MBZ] Stupid club WAS Insurance coverage

2007-08-30 Thread John Robbins
Gary Hurst wrote:
 with engine running, i grab hold of wire end.  i learn what 15k volts
 feel like.  my chest really starts to hurt and continues to do so for
 quite a while as i sit there wondering why i did that.

I've done that twice.  One time was with my lawnmower.  I was in middle 
school and the plug clamp (not boot) kept coming loose.  Tried to fix it 
  while I was cutting...

The other time was helping a friend get his truck running.  It would 
crank and crank so did the whole air, fuel, spark thing.  Decided to 
test for spark by unscrewing a plug and looking for a spark, and I 
thought that holding the metal casing of the spark plug to the engine 
block would suffice as grounding.  Apparently not...

I like diesels! ;)

John


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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread Allan Streib
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 the chinese are the future of everything.  20 years from now they'll be
 making maybach class cars and selling them for $16,450 brand new.

But painted with lead paint.

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
that is part of the problem.  no corner is left uncut.

i bought some very cheap chinese pens, as in $10 per 36 roller ball pens.
they write really nicely.  they tend to leak a little.  now i'm wondering if
this ink is going to kill me.

On 8/30/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  the chinese are the future of everything.  20 years from now they'll be
  making maybach class cars and selling them for $16,450 brand new.

 But painted with lead paint.

 --
 1983 300D
 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Stupid club WAS Insurance coverage

2007-08-30 Thread Gary Hurst
there really is something sweet about old diesels in this regard.  one thing
you can be sure about any old neglected gasser is that it will be full of
ignition issues.  and any marginal but functional ignition will leave you
stranded once it rains on an old car.

once it is lit and warm, the old diesels just keep on firing fine.  my old
decrepit wagon is leaking everything out of everywhere and is mostly
trashed, but just keep firing perfectly.

On 8/30/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst wrote:
  with engine running, i grab hold of wire end.  i learn what 15k volts
  feel like.  my chest really starts to hurt and continues to do so for
  quite a while as i sit there wondering why i did that.

 I've done that twice.  One time was with my lawnmower.  I was in middle
 school and the plug clamp (not boot) kept coming loose.  Tried to fix it
   while I was cutting...

 The other time was helping a friend get his truck running.  It would
 crank and crank so did the whole air, fuel, spark thing.  Decided to
 test for spark by unscrewing a plug and looking for a spark, and I
 thought that holding the metal casing of the spark plug to the engine
 block would suffice as grounding.  Apparently not...

 I like diesels! ;)

 John


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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal/yes it is tough to replace

2007-08-30 Thread Redghost
Gump is fully equipped with block heater.  Though born in Germany,  
she was delivered to Illinois so has the cold weather package.  All I  
need to do is remember to hook her up on the cold days.  Thinking  
about having that supercharger ala Cathey with a 1800watt blow dryer  
for quicker starts


On 29 Aug 2007, at 22:20, Jim Cathey wrote:

 exhaust.. if it would quiet the racket.  Should probably do the Vac
 diaphragm with the engine easy to attack.  Any other wear items?

 It's just that the engines are so easy to work on in these
 cars when compared to later ones and/or larger engines, there
 aren't many 'minor' jobs where pulling the engine is necessary.
 And you don't have need to do a major job.

 I forget, do you have a block heater in there?

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!

2007-08-30 Thread Redghost
BTDT, it is a good ride

On 30 Aug 2007, at 04:21, Mitch Haley wrote:



 Redghost wrote:
 Getting off the darn stand it another issue

 Engage first gear, set tach to 3000rpm, lean back.

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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread Redghost
Rolling POS that will poison us all since they will be built out of  
depleted uranium, with lead paint, and hides from Chernobyl critters  
for seats.


On 30 Aug 2007, at 08:27, Gary Hurst wrote:

 the chinese are the future of everything.  20 years from now  
 they'll be
 making maybach class cars and selling them for $16,450 brand new.

 On 8/30/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have sold a few hundred of them with no complaints as of yet.


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 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle


 Speaking of rear seals, does anyone have any experience with the
 Chinese-manufactured NEW rear W1223 axles that Rusty is now
 selling?  The
 price is quite compelling...

 On 8/30/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uh, it was spraying very much onto the old clutch and flywheel.  I
 just spent a half hour scrubbing the built up crud out of the  
 bell on
 the removed transmission.  I have not yet taken a close look at the
 parts that came back, since I spent the day removing M1 ATF from  
 the
 trunk where it vacated the old trans while in transit home from the
 shop.  Seem ATF is a great solvent and will strip truck bed  
 liner and
 bondo.

 clay



 On 29 Aug 2007, at 21:59, Jim Cathey wrote:

 Is this an immediate issue?

 Of course not.  Just messy.  Unless it's so bad it's
 spraying onto the clutch or flywheel.

 -- Jim

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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!

2007-08-30 Thread ernest breakfield
highly *not* recommend by many manufacturers, for a variety of 
mechanical and safety reasons.


cheers!
e


Mitch Haley wrote:
 Redghost wrote:
   
 Getting off the darn stand it another issue
 

 Engage first gear, set tach to 3000rpm, lean back.
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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread R A Bennell
Won't matter as we won't be able to afford to buy them anyway. (How is that for 
pessimism?)

Randy

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Rolling POS that will poison us all since they will be built out of  
depleted uranium, with lead paint, and hides from Chernobyl critters  
for seats.


On 30 Aug 2007, at 08:27, Gary Hurst wrote:

 the chinese are the future of everything.  20 years from now  
 they'll be
 making maybach class cars and selling them for $16,450 brand new.

 On 8/30/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have sold a few hundred of them with no complaints as of yet.


 Rusty Cullens
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 - Original Message -
 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle


 Speaking of rear seals, does anyone have any experience with the
 Chinese-manufactured NEW rear W1223 axles that Rusty is now
 selling?  The
 price is quite compelling...

 On 8/30/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uh, it was spraying very much onto the old clutch and flywheel.  I
 just spent a half hour scrubbing the built up crud out of the  
 bell on
 the removed transmission.  I have not yet taken a close look at the
 parts that came back, since I spent the day removing M1 ATF from  
 the
 trunk where it vacated the old trans while in transit home from the
 shop.  Seem ATF is a great solvent and will strip truck bed  
 liner and
 bondo.

 clay



 On 29 Aug 2007, at 21:59, Jim Cathey wrote:

 Is this an immediate issue?

 Of course not.  Just messy.  Unless it's so bad it's
 spraying onto the clutch or flywheel.

 -- Jim

--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Centerstands, was pillory!

2007-08-30 Thread ernest breakfield
hey Clay!

there's no actual handle on my GS, but there's an exposed portion of 
the frame that's conveniently perfectly located for a grab with the 
right hand... and you're right that standing on that foot-pad on the 
stand while lofting the machine up and back is key.

getting it down isn't difficult either; standing on the machines 
left side, both hands in bars, clutch in, brake lever covered, a solid 
body lean and push on the bars will roll it right off, and the front 
brake can be (gently!) engaged if necessary to keep it from rolling away 
from you. for additional safety, doing this while it's still in 1st gear 
(as it should be when it's parked) will also ensure that if it were to 
somehow get away from you and you were to lose coverage of the front 
brake on the right grip you would still be able to stop it by just 
letting out the clutch lever.
if concerned about the machine falling off to the far side from you, 
keeping the handlebars very *slightly* turned to the machines right will 
ensure that any tipping of the machine is *towards* you rather than away 
from you.
(of course, having it fall over *before* it's started is highly 
preferable to having it go over when running and in gear,...!)
i find this easy enough with my GS even when loaded for touring and 
even though it's the Adventure model and has a taller stand than the 
standard GS; doing it with the standard GS is a breeze.


cheers!
e


Redghost wrote:
 Hmmm,  The beemer has a foot spot and a hand spot so that all you do  
 is flip the center stand down, engage foot position, move right hand  
 to hand grip, left on bars and yank it onto the stand while exerting  
 pressure with foot.  Up it goes.  Simple as pie.  Getting off the  
 darn stand it another issue

 clay
   

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Re: [MBZ] Rear seal NOW rear axle

2007-08-30 Thread John Robbins
R A Bennell wrote:
 Won't matter as we won't be able to afford to buy them anyway. (How
 is that for pessimism?)

You forgot inflation!  20 years from now $16,450 will be about $500 of
todays dollars.  Kaleb won't know what to do.



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[MBZ] Moose Day

2007-08-30 Thread Redghost
http://www.smithsonianglobalsound.org/listen2.aspx? 
type=previewtrackid=9838




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[MBZ] Great lakes rare cars trucks

2007-08-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Wasn't Canfield looking for Iveco stuff?
Here's two cheap diesel flatbed trucks:
http://www.auto-rv.com/results.aspx?mode=quickquickval=iveco

280SE, pricy if it isn't a 6.3:
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CLM752090

280SL, 48k mi, $22.5k, these things are worth more than 107s:
http://www.auto-rv.com/results.aspx?mode=quickquickval=280sl

Rampage (Plymouth Tourismo meets Ranchero) $1000, looks OK
More legroom than a VW pickup, can use VW engines (might
even have a VW engine, they don't say if it's 2.2 or VW)
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2290289

1990 Nissan pickup (you've never seen one quite like this)
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2280092

Can't sell that Bradley GT? Take the doors off and claim
it's a 'convertible' (at least I don't remember the
factory selling them this way):
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BMLI2280294

Speaking of open cars, ever see an Isetta roadster?
Only $18k
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BMI2290455

'82 gas Rabbit, looks OK, $450:
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BM2290360

V12 coupe, 29k mi, $3900. Maybe Sunil needs it?
http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=14-869740

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[MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-30 Thread Smith, Todd
I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :)  I am trying to replace the junk 
battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old 
battery.  Is there something else that I have to take off to get the battery 
out.  It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it doesn't clear 
the air filter housing.

Is there something obvious that I am missing or what?  The PO took pretty lousy 
care of this vehicle and for all I can tell it might not even be the right 
battery.

Thanks for the help

Todd Smith  '85 300CD 248k miles

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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-30 Thread John Robbins
Smith, Todd wrote:
 I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :)  I am trying to replace
 the junk battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't
 remove the old battery.  Is there something else that I have to take
 off to get the battery out.  It doesn't clear the lip of the engine
 compartment and it doesn't clear the air filter housing.

There is a battery clamp on the side of the tray that pushes a lip on 
the batter under the side of the battery tray.  That being said, I've 
found that lifting straight up doesn't work all that well.  If you rock 
it to one side and get one of the lips on the battery out it comes out 
much easier.

G'luck!

John


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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-30 Thread LarryT
Hi Todd,
If the wrong sized battery was installed it can be *really, really* 
tough to get out.  If the correct battery was installed it willl be merely 
*really tough*.  The batteries in W123 cars all seem to be more difficult to 
change than is neccessary -

The lip of the cowl sticks out a little too far and as you noted, the 
air filter assy interfers as well.  It's been a while since I changed one 
but will removing the air filter housing help?  Otherwise it's a matter of 
tilting and *coaxing* the battery out.  Not easy for sure.

Good luck -

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Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question


I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :)  I am trying to replace the junk 
battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old 
battery.  Is there something else that I have to take off to get the 
battery out.  It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it 
doesn't clear the air filter housing.

 Is there something obvious that I am missing or what?  The PO took pretty 
 lousy care of this vehicle and for all I can tell it might not even be the 
 right battery.

 Thanks for the help

 Todd Smith  '85 300CD 248k miles

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[MBZ] now here is a rare car

2007-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
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Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps

2007-08-30 Thread archer
After a very short drive my daughter was sitting at a traffic light in her 
GL320cdi SUV when she noticed a big white cloud of something that looked 
like it may have come out of her exhaust.  There was no other car close by 
that could have produced it.  The car has just had it's first major service 
since she bought it.  She says she may have gotten a tankful of less than 
the ultra low sulphur fuel.  She hasn't seen any more white clouds behind 
the SUV since then.  Does anyone have an idea what could have caused such a 
cloud?  The only thing I could think of would be a headgasket letting water 
into a cylinder.  The dealer is 60 miles away, so driving it there could be 
risky if there is something seriously wrong.
Thanks,
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 The lubricating qualities of the sulfur in diesel fuel are in the
 sulfur containing organic molecules.  There is no free sulfur dissolved
 in diesel fuel, it's all part of some carbon containing molecule (there
 are many).  It's removed by breaking up those molecules and
 precipitating out the molecular sulfur.

 Those sulfur containing molecules provide most of the lubricating
 qualities of diesel fuel, and are in fact quite good high pressure
 lubricants (much better than the paraffins or linear hydrocarbons,
 which make up 90+ % of the bulk diesel).  Taking them out greatly
 reduces the lubricating nature of the fuel.

 Peter


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[MBZ] ignition switch

2007-08-30 Thread Motikwa
SO, I go to start the car (300SD - just passed the 250K mark), and the  key 
won't turn.  Pull it out, flip it over -- same thing.  Go get a  spare key -- 
ditto.  
 
Am I BONED? and need to get it drilled if I can't get it to turn?
 
Thanks,
 
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Re: [MBZ] ignition switch

2007-08-30 Thread eric peterson
pretty much SOL if you can't get it to turn I had
a similar fate with an 85 SD after trying for over an
hour and giving myself blisters trying to turn it I
finally decided to try a more drastic solution  I
inserted the key and then took a screwdriver and
pounded it in with a hammer so the screwdriver was
alongside the key and in the tubler maybe 3/4 inch...I
then took vicegrips around the screwdriver and twisted
after a couple of trys I finally got it to
turnpromptly drove to my indie left the key in
the on position.killed the engine with the kill
switch and unhooked the battery and had them order
a new switch keyed for the car. seems like I paid
100ish as opposed to the 500ish they said it would
have been.   Good luck

Eric

Crunched 85 300CD 113K  SOLD
85 380 SE  114K

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 SO, I go to start the car (300SD - just passed the
 250K mark), and the  key 
 won't turn.  Pull it out, flip it over -- same
 thing.  Go get a  spare key -- 
 ditto.  
  
 Am I BONED? and need to get it drilled if I can't
 get it to turn?
  
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s -
that will help. This is a tough job!   It took the Mercedes Roadside
tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD.  I came out
ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC)

On 8/30/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Todd,
 If the wrong sized battery was installed it can be *really, really*
 tough to get out.  If the correct battery was installed it willl be merely
 *really tough*.  The batteries in W123 cars all seem to be more difficult to
 change than is neccessary -

 The lip of the cowl sticks out a little too far and as you noted, the
 air filter assy interfers as well.  It's been a while since I changed one
 but will removing the air filter housing help?  Otherwise it's a matter of
 tilting and *coaxing* the battery out.  Not easy for sure.

 Good luck -

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
 PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
 .

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:45 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question


 I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :)  I am trying to replace the junk
 battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old
 battery.  Is there something else that I have to take off to get the
 battery out.  It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it
 doesn't clear the air filter housing.
 
  Is there something obvious that I am missing or what?  The PO took pretty
  lousy care of this vehicle and for all I can tell it might not even be the
  right battery.
 
  Thanks for the help
 
  Todd Smith  '85 300CD 248k miles
 
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Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps

2007-08-30 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Did her AC start blowing not as cold at the same time?
AC blow off valves cutting loose at stop lights on real hot days is 
pretty common., Wind up with an unknown cloud either billowing out from 
under the hood or out the back if the engine fan is kicked in .

---Robert


archer wrote:
 After a very short drive my daughter was sitting at a traffic light in her 
 GL320cdi SUV when she noticed a big white cloud of something that looked 
 like it may have come out of her exhaust.  There was no other car close by 
 that could have produced it.  The car has just had it's first major service 
 since she bought it.  She says she may have gotten a tankful of less than 
 the ultra low sulphur fuel.  She hasn't seen any more white clouds behind 
 the SUV since then.  Does anyone have an idea what could have caused such a 
 cloud?  The only thing I could think of would be a headgasket letting water 
 into a cylinder.  The dealer is 60 miles away, so driving it there could be 
 risky if there is something seriously wrong.
 Thanks,
 Gerry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 The lubricating qualities of the sulfur in diesel fuel are in the
 sulfur containing organic molecules.  There is no free sulfur dissolved
 in diesel fuel, it's all part of some carbon containing molecule (there
 are many).  It's removed by breaking up those molecules and
 precipitating out the molecular sulfur.

 Those sulfur containing molecules provide most of the lubricating
 qualities of diesel fuel, and are in fact quite good high pressure
 lubricants (much better than the paraffins or linear hydrocarbons,
 which make up 90+ % of the bulk diesel).  Taking them out greatly
 reduces the lubricating nature of the fuel.

 Peter
 


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[MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps

2007-08-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/30/07, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After a very short drive my daughter was sitting at a traffic light in her
 GL320cdi SUV when she noticed a big white cloud of something that looked
 like it may have come out of her exhaust.  There was no other car close by
 that could have produced it.  The car has just had it's first major service
 since she bought it.

I don't know what kind of reputation the dealer service department
where you live has, but around here I'd immediately suspect them of
breaking something.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo kept far from the hamfisted clutches of dealer service

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Re: [MBZ] ignition switch

2007-08-30 Thread Mitch Haley


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 SO, I go to start the car (300SD - just passed the 250K mark), and the  key
 won't turn. 

Wiggle the steering wheel while turning the key, do whatever you
have to do, pound on the wheel to make it vibrate, anything.
When you get it unlocked, do not lock it again.

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[MBZ] OT new small diesel pickup from India next year

2007-08-30 Thread Kris Gilmore
  Made by Mahindra.  Also SUVs.

  http://www.gv.usa.com/vehicle-info.php

  4WD, high tech diesel, 6 speed automatic, 30mpg, a bit over 
$20,000 the projected price.  Just ugly enough to look authentic.

  Dave Gilmore ,Cameron WV

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Re: [MBZ] OT new small diesel pickup from India next year

2007-08-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/30/07, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Made by Mahindra.  Also SUVs.

   http://www.gv.usa.com/vehicle-info.php

   4WD, high tech diesel, 6 speed automatic, 30mpg, a bit over
 $20,000 the projected price.  Just ugly enough to look authentic.


That should be www.gv-usa.com

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Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps

2007-08-30 Thread archer
I'll ask her.  Thanks Robert.
Gerry

- Original Message - 
From: Robert  Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Did her AC start blowing not as cold at the same time?
 AC blow off valves cutting loose at stop lights on real hot days is
 pretty common., Wind up with an unknown cloud either billowing out from
 under the hood or out the back if the engine fan is kicked in .
 ---Robert

 archer wrote:
 After a very short drive my daughter was sitting at a traffic light in 
 her
 GL320cdi SUV when she noticed a big white cloud of something that looked
 like it may have come out of her exhaust.  There was no other car close 
 by
 that could have produced it.  The car has just had it's first major 
 service
 since she bought it.  She says she may have gotten a tankful of less 
 than
 the ultra low sulphur fuel.  She hasn't seen any more white clouds behind
 the SUV since then.  Does anyone have an idea what could have caused such 
 a cloud?  The only thing I could think of would be a headgasket letting 
 water
 into a cylinder.  The dealer is 60 miles away, so driving it there could 
 be
 risky if there is something seriously wrong.
 Thanks,
 Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, a seller named hazeenn in florida.  Jump right on that.  Let's 
see, its just now been 2 years since Katrina

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT new small diesel pickup from India next year

2007-08-30 Thread Rich Thomas
They have been making some decent tractors for quite some time.  I read 
an article about some guy who imports them in bits in containers then 
assembles them (cuts down on volume and transpo costs), apparently sells 
all he can get.

--R

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 On 8/30/07, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   Made by Mahindra.  Also SUVs.

   http://www.gv.usa.com/vehicle-info.php

   4WD, high tech diesel, 6 speed automatic, 30mpg, a bit over
 $20,000 the projected price.  Just ugly enough to look authentic.

 

 That should be www.gv-usa.com

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[MBZ] Type II ACC Amplifier Wisdom?

2007-08-30 Thread Scott Ritchey
I concluded that the ACC amplifier on my 1979 300TD suddenly went bad. (but
only after complete teardown and reassembly of the servo, which was my
original suspect).  VOM readings indicated all the inputs to the amp were OK
and when I opened the amp, it was clearly bad with heat marls on several
resistors and one resistor (I think) totally lose at one end (guess solder
melted).  But the servo, itself still runs nicely when I manually apply
voltage to the appropriate pins.

 

Question:  What's the right fix?  Does Jim Cathy have a trick for fixing
these?  Should I just buy a new $$$ one from Rusty?  Does Kaleb have a stack
of cheap used ones available?  Any inputs would be appreciated.

 

Scott Ritchey

1979 300TD 350k mi

1982 300SD 230k mi

 

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Hendrik
What's with the screwed up VIN numbers, do you people always have to do 
everything different or is the VIN translated into the imperial system 
different?

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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Hendrik
Don't you know the general rule with Mercs, if it has a letter before a 
number it is best to be avoided.
Although I am mucho annoyed that we never got the 420 in the 124 chassis.

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Re: [MBZ] OT new small diesel pickup from India next year

2007-08-30 Thread Hendrik
Is this supposed to be spam?
All I get is the star and stripes and a whole lot of other stuff but 
nothing about no dodgy vehicle made out of recycled bamboo.

Kris Gilmore wrote:
   Made by Mahindra.  Also SUVs.

   http://www.gv.usa.com/vehicle-info.php

   4WD, high tech diesel, 6 speed automatic, 30mpg, a bit over 
 $20,000 the projected price.  Just ugly enough to look authentic.

   Dave Gilmore ,Cameron WV

   War represents what faith we won't be laughed or reasoned out of.
   

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Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps

2007-08-30 Thread archer

- Original Message - 
 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I don't know what kind of reputation the dealer service department
 where you live has, but around here I'd immediately suspect them of
 breaking something.

 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D Turbo kept far from the hamfisted clutches of dealer service

True.  They just bought the car and it has a very long warrantee on it, so 
they don't have much choice.  Their main problem is the distance from a 
dealer.
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] Type II ACC Amplifier Wisdom?

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Cathey
 Question:  What's the right fix?  Does Jim Cathy have a trick for 
 fixing
 these?

I don't have any of those, nor do I ever intend to.  But I would
myself, barring an easy/cheap used one, start by pulling any cooked
components and testing them out, replacing any that failed the test.
But maybe that's just me?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ignition switch

2007-08-30 Thread Jim Cathey
 Am I BONED? and need to get it drilled if I can't get it to turn?

Eventually.  But if you haven't spent at least an hour teasing it
in a couple-three sessions you aren't ready to go there yet.

Don't get so efficient at trying that when/if it DOES turn on
you don't just turn it back off again 'cause you're in the groove.
BTDT.

Once you get it turned, immediately remove the ignition tumbler and
use a screwdriver to start the car until you get a new one.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal

2007-08-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
MIGHT

Rich Thomas wrote:
 Yeah, a seller named hazeenn in florida.  Jump right on that.  Let's 
 see, its just now been 2 years since Katrina
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question

2007-08-30 Thread Luther
WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins.  I much prefer the pull out 
drop in of the 126.  Remove the air cleaner.  Have new rubber air cleaner 
mounts handy if yours are bad.

Luther

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s -
 that will help. This is a tough job!   It took the Mercedes Roadside
 tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD.  I came out
 ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC)





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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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