Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
It looks like you are tapping across two branches if a Y connection then adding the third winding to the end. I can see how you are gettng the voltage you want out of the system but what does the wave form look like? It can't be a sine wave. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 6:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler > Put a transformer on this generator's output and you'd only be using > 1/3 of > the generator. Wired zig-zag one gets some 2/3 rated output. Mine's rated at 26kW this way. Mui better. Compare the two wiring diagrams: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genwye.pdf or http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genwye.gif versus http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genzig.pdf or http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genzig.gif -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outstanding
I want to try some of the Seafoam in my parents' Motorhome Onan genset. It will start with the choke, but won't run on its own without some help. It sat for over a year, and when it wouldn't start, I suspected that the gas had gone bad. This was indeed the case as when I opened it up, there it was, the unmistakable smell of stale gas. Hopefully, the seafoam will work which will save about $500 for a new carburetor. The gen runs off the main tank, so I'm going to run a line to it from a can of treated gas and see what happens. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter 1.6Kmi, die Kiste ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
Neutral is whatever phase is referenced to ground. In a Y (wye) connection, the center is often referenced to ground. In a delta connection, any phase can be referenced to ground providing all three phases are initially isolated from ground. In the case of three single phase 110V transformers, one across each phase and each fully isolated, you can reference either end of each one to ground, but you still can't series 2 together for 220V because they are 120 degrees out of phase from each other, not 180 degrees out of phase from each other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 12:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler >> This was a commercial installation (Florida State Fair) and all three >> legs >> were used as separate circuits with common grounds IIRC. If Jim found >> such >> a transformer why couldn't he use all three legs as separate circuits >> and >> combinations of two legs for 220v circuits? > > You have just described 3-phase power. > Which is what I already have! > > -- Jim ___ When using 110v single cycle on one leg, where is your neutral (negative) connected? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
>> > You have just described 3-phase power. >> > Which is what I already have! >> > -- Jim >> ___ >> When using 110v single cycle on one leg, where is your neutral >> (negative) connected? >> Gerry > > At the junction of the three phase windings, which are then arranged as a > "Y", thus, 120/208 VAC 3 phase, 4 wire Wye. > Craig ___ Thanks. It would seem he would have problems running 220v appliances with single phase motors from two legs since they wouldn't have single phase? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
> Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator > ends? > Any way to test the magnetics? Would posing this question to the manufacturer yield any assistance? >>> >>> Is that likely to work? >> >> You don't know until you try. > > So I just sent an e-mail to the contact I had. > I will now proceed to hold my breath... Breathing resumes. Got a bounce: "Mailbox space not enough (space limit is 9000KB). Size of arriving mail (1KB) exceeds free space (0KB)." So much for asking China, Inc. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator ends? Any way to test the magnetics? >>> >>> Would posing this question to the manufacturer yield any assistance? >> >> Is that likely to work? > > You don't know until you try. So I just sent an e-mail to the contact I had. I will now proceed to hold my breath... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:19:18 -0400 "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You have just described 3-phase power. > > Which is what I already have! > > > > -- Jim > ___ > When using 110v single cycle on one leg, where is your neutral > (negative) connected? > Gerry At the junction of the three phase windings, which are then arranged as a "Y", thus, 120/208 VAC 3 phase, 4 wire Wye. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
- Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler >> This was a commercial installation (Florida State Fair) and all three >> legs >> were used as separate circuits with common grounds IIRC. If Jim found >> such >> a transformer why couldn't he use all three legs as separate circuits >> and >> combinations of two legs for 220v circuits? > > You have just described 3-phase power. > Which is what I already have! > > -- Jim ___ When using 110v single cycle on one leg, where is your neutral (negative) connected? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kleb's fame spreads
>From today's 911 rennlist << Subject: Re: HOAX computer virus warning From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:27:38 -0400 X-Message-Number: 6 Hoax: http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/virtualcard.asp It even mentions the link that snopes has. As soon as any email says send it to "everyone you know" that's the red flag for a hoax. And Kaleb (your sender) spammed a bunch of lists with this hoax. :^( This hoax has been around since 2000. http://virusbusters.itcs.umich.edu//hoaxes/virtual.html http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=description&virus_k=98893 ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
> This was a commercial installation (Florida State Fair) and all three > legs > were used as separate circuits with common grounds IIRC. If Jim found > such > a transformer why couldn't he use all three legs as separate circuits > and > combinations of two legs for 220v circuits? You have just described 3-phase power. Which is what I already have! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
> Buy a new one at Costco, figure out how yours is different, then > return the new one. ;-) You left out the part where I haunt the outlet, then buy it back again! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] wiring harness
On the 124 with wiring harness problem, is it just the engine wiring harness that needs to be replaced? I suspect that is my issue with my 94 E420. Anybody replaced one before? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My latest score
well let me know when you sell the 95 tom savage wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> I didnt think you liked 140's. Did you sell one that was your parents >> or something? So tell about the new one you bought? Also tell about >> this old beat up 95? They getting rid of it? > > I've warmed up considerably to 140s lately, especially as they keep > getting cheaper. The one I more or less inherited was sold a couple of > years ago. '95 S320 #2 will be for sale as soon as I clean it up and > replace a wheel bearing. 80k miles and one owner but not properly > maintained. > >> The 140 did change quite a bit. Some things for the better, some not. >> The earlier ones had more features, but also had potential wiring >> harness issues and such, as well as the evaporator etc. The later ones >> they seem to be stripped down somewhat with less features, and things >> that were standard on the earlier ones, are optional on the later ones. >> By then they had wiring issue solved. Not sure about the evaporator >> thing or not. Did that ever get solved in the 140? > > I don't know if the evaporator issue was ever truly fixed as I've heard > of '97s losing them, but they did get better over time. The early > models were also faster than '94 and up, which were detuned for > emissions. Mine is pretty well optioned, with burl, rear shade, > charcoal filter, and so on. Remember that in 1992 an LS400 was like > half the price of a 500SEL and they had to decontent them to get the > price down and people into the showrooms. > > The seats are a lot nicer in the '98. They were obviously designed for > well-fed plutocrats, but now an underfed, aspirational yeoman like > myself actually fits without sliding all over the place. Installed the > Sirius today; it took two hours to run the antenna wire from the trunk > to the passenger compartment, which takes five minutes in a 123. Damned > thing is put together like a brick scheisshaus. > > Tom > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Anybody know anywhere that works on these pumps? Dont think I > need a full rebuild but if it was not very expensive I might just go > that route. Antti Arula at Myna-Diesel said he'd rebuild my 2.5 pump with 7mm pump elements and an external full fuel stop adjustment for 800 euros plus shipping. The sensor would probably be extra. You could build a 300hp 2.5, drop it in a W140, and give it to a real estate agent. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
Jim Cathey wrote: > > Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator ends? > Any way to test the magnetics? Buy a new one at Costco, figure out how yours is different, then return the new one. ;-) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
Redghost wrote: > I would think it best to learn a trade so that you could get out of > college with the least debt needed. It may take a bit longer to get > out, but you will have matured immensely by the time you are handed > that sheepskin. It is also a great back up incase you get out with > that BA and there are no survival wage jobs to be had. The co-op program works wonders... doesn't add anywhere near as much time too :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My latest score
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > I didnt think you liked 140's. Did you sell one that was your parents > or something? So tell about the new one you bought? Also tell about > this old beat up 95? They getting rid of it? I've warmed up considerably to 140s lately, especially as they keep getting cheaper. The one I more or less inherited was sold a couple of years ago. '95 S320 #2 will be for sale as soon as I clean it up and replace a wheel bearing. 80k miles and one owner but not properly maintained. > The 140 did change quite a bit. Some things for the better, some not. > The earlier ones had more features, but also had potential wiring > harness issues and such, as well as the evaporator etc. The later ones > they seem to be stripped down somewhat with less features, and things > that were standard on the earlier ones, are optional on the later ones. > By then they had wiring issue solved. Not sure about the evaporator > thing or not. Did that ever get solved in the 140? I don't know if the evaporator issue was ever truly fixed as I've heard of '97s losing them, but they did get better over time. The early models were also faster than '94 and up, which were detuned for emissions. Mine is pretty well optioned, with burl, rear shade, charcoal filter, and so on. Remember that in 1992 an LS400 was like half the price of a 500SEL and they had to decontent them to get the price down and people into the showrooms. The seats are a lot nicer in the '98. They were obviously designed for well-fed plutocrats, but now an underfed, aspirational yeoman like myself actually fits without sliding all over the place. Installed the Sirius today; it took two hours to run the antenna wire from the trunk to the passenger compartment, which takes five minutes in a 123. Damned thing is put together like a brick scheisshaus. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
I would think it best to learn a trade so that you could get out of college with the least debt needed. It may take a bit longer to get out, but you will have matured immensely by the time you are handed that sheepskin. It is also a great back up incase you get out with that BA and there are no survival wage jobs to be had. clay On 15 Sep 2007, at 13:41, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Rick, > > I wanted to go into auto repair when I got out of highschool. My > dad talked me into working for a season and then I talked myself > into college. > > If I had it all to do over again I'd ABSOLUTELY go to tradeschool. > No question. If I had my choice I think I'd be an electrician but > I'd like to have a sememster to try all the different trades and > see which fit me best. > The problem with college is you come out and didn't learn to > actually DO anything. Lotsa theory, so you've got all the ideas but > to but the rubber to the road? > Thats actually unfair, I interned and when I got out I was fairly > adept but man to have an actual trade. > > Absolutely don't let him go into high tech! With a recession around > the corner I'm nervous of the impending layoff. I'm in a pretty > good place now but any high tech firm is ripe for downsizing. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:08:51 -0500 > From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My 14 y/o son wants to go into a mechanical or electrical trade > when he > graduates high school. I have no problem with that, however I have > explained to him that when he gets to be 50 plus years old, he may > not > like turning wrenches 40 hours a week any more. I am twisting his > arm to > go to college first. He is very intelligent and will do well whatever > profession he chooses. He traded a bicycle for a non-running 5hp > Honda > engine. He was thrilled to have it running within an hour of > getting it > home. Instead of him taking stuff apart and ME putting it back > together > correctly, he is getting better about completing tasks like this with > little input from me. > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > > - > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s > user panel and lay it on us. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
This was a commercial installation (Florida State Fair) and all three legs were used as separate circuits with common grounds IIRC. If Jim found such a transformer why couldn't he use all three legs as separate circuits and combinations of two legs for 220v circuits? Gerry - Original Message - From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Line transformers do this but they only bridge two phases. Line > transformers > work because your house is across two legs, the next house is across the > one > leg you are on and the third, then the next house is across the other leg > you are on and the third. > > Put a transformer on this generator's output and you'd only be using 1/3 > of > the generator. > -- > As a teenager I worked for an electrical contractor. I remember a > transformer that converted three phase to "three wire grounded neutral" > which provided three 120v lines or 220v using any combination of two IIRC. > See fig. 1-4 in: > http://www.elec-toolbox.com/usefulinfo/xfmr-3ph.htm > Finding a small transformer of that sort might be a problem although I > seem > to remember seeing them in industrial plants with three phase distribution > systems. > Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel primer pump
Gene drove from his place in Des Moines to Jefferson yesterday (about an hour) in his pickup, dragged his brother's race trailer home (another hour), and hauled the 190D back to Jefferson (another hour) so Jeff, his older brother and mechanic extraordinary, could work on the problem. Jeff did exactly what I told Gene to do and what others suggested -- crack the injector line and crank until you get fuel. Problem solved within ten minutes and the 190D took Gene back to Des Moines this afternoon. On 9/13/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I now (after a LONG cranking session once before) loosen the injector > lines at the injectors, have someone else crank while I watch, and > tighten the lines as they start to leak fuel - it re-fills the lines > MUCH faster than just cranking -- > > On 9/13/07, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Brother-in-law let his 190D run out of fuel. He can't find the hand > > > primer > > > pump. Where is it? '84 190D. > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:18:47 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator ends? > >> Any way to test the magnetics? > > > > Would posing this question to the manufacturer yield any assistance? > > Is that likely to work? You don't know until you try. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
thanks Rick Knoble wrote: >> Try the Bosch service center in Chicago (I don't remember the name at >> the moment). I believe they are the only official Bosch service that >> works on the 603 pumps. >> >> Peter > > You could try one of these places. > > http://www.boschservice.com/ServiceLocations/ImageMapResults/ImageMapResults.htm?st=OK&typ=DC&cntry=USA > > http://www.boschservice.com/ServiceLocations/ImageMapResults/ImageMapResults.htm?st=OK&typ=DF&cntry=USA > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
>> Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator ends? >> Any way to test the magnetics? > > Would posing this question to the manufacturer yield any assistance? Is that likely to work? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
> Try the Bosch service center in Chicago (I don't remember the name at > the moment). I believe they are the only official Bosch service that > works on the 603 pumps. > > Peter You could try one of these places. http://www.boschservice.com/ServiceLocations/ImageMapResults/ImageMapResults.htm?st=OK&typ=DC&cntry=USA http://www.boschservice.com/ServiceLocations/ImageMapResults/ImageMapResults.htm?st=OK&typ=DF&cntry=USA Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
thanks Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:50:16 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I then remember this was the engine that seemed to be getting diesel >> in the oil. So, I suspect this pump is not any good and really do not >> want to install it. > > Good plan. > > >> I guess I am going to need to send my pump in and have the rack position >> sensor replaced. Anybody know anywhere that works on these pumps? > > > http://www.centralmotivepower.com/ > > > CENTRAL MOTIVE POWER - DENVER > 6301 N. Broadway > Denver, CO. 80216 > Phone (303) 428-3611 > (800) 822-4332 > Fax (303) 428-6785 > > > They have a coupon at > http://www.centralmotivepower.com/Central%20Motive%20Power%20%20NAPA%20Coupon.htm > that's good for a FREE D I A G N O S T I C C H E C K. > > You might call them and see what they say about repairing your pump and > then mention the coupon. > > >> Dont think I need a full rebuild but if it was not very expensive I >> might just go that route. > > A full rebuild is several hundred dollars. If you think that's necessary, > ask Rusty what he has. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:11:55 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator ends? > Any way to test the magnetics? Would posing this question to the manufacturer yield any assistance? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese generator
The red lever on top is a compression release, obviously not intended for operation in this particular installation. Does anybody know anything about these small Chinese generator ends? Any way to test the magnetics? The generator end has six wires in addition to the obvious main outputs. Two yellow and two blue wires of mid gauge in one connector, and another connector with two smaller-gauge red and white wires. There is 0.6 ohms between the yellows (or was it blue?) and 1.2 between blues (or was it yellow?), and 17 ohms red to white. The red wire is collared with a "+" label on the potted regulator side. All of these windings (?) appear isolated. I tried feeding 12V through a test light to the 17-ohm winding, but it didn't generate power then. (The battery charging circuit is separate, part of the motor, and is functional.) There is another connector from the front panel to the regulator that has four wires, red, black, and two white. When running there is power between all three and the black wire. The main generator output is large-gauge wire, and goes to a terminal block. That's not an issue! The potted regulator is in two pieces, and there are two trim pots sticking out. The tops of several standard-looking components are sticking up out of the sea of epoxy. I sure wish that was a serviceable item! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
> Put a transformer on this generator's output and you'd only be using > 1/3 of > the generator. Wired zig-zag one gets some 2/3 rated output. Mine's rated at 26kW this way. Mui better. Compare the two wiring diagrams: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genwye.pdf or http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genwye.gif versus http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genzig.pdf or http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genzig.gif -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
Try the Bosch service center in Chicago (I don't remember the name at the moment). I believe they are the only official Bosch service that works on the 603 pumps. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
> Send him to trade school. By all means, especially if > it's something he likes doing. That was the thing for > me - I loved doing what I did, and sitting in a > classroom for four years was not going to put me in > something I liked. If the career path started by going to trade school (or whatever) leads to where you can live and die, and you love it, go for it! Enjoying what you do is the key to success. (Sufficient income and earned respect are also keys.) The only trouble is that to many high-school kids, a regular paycheck even at minimum wage might look too good. They don't have a realistic grasp on the expenses of life. That's where you, dear parents, come in! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap Microsoft Office 2007
I am far from a Microsoft pimp, but as an educational customer, I get this crap all the time... http://www.theultimatesteal.com/home.asp If you've got a student in the house and a machine that runs Windoze this is a hell of a deal. Dan Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:50:16 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I then remember this was the engine that seemed to be getting diesel > in the oil. So, I suspect this pump is not any good and really do not > want to install it. Good plan. > I guess I am going to need to send my pump in and have the rack position > sensor replaced. Anybody know anywhere that works on these pumps? http://www.centralmotivepower.com/ CENTRAL MOTIVE POWER - DENVER 6301 N. Broadway Denver, CO. 80216 Phone (303) 428-3611 (800) 822-4332 Fax (303) 428-6785 They have a coupon at http://www.centralmotivepower.com/Central%20Motive%20Power%20%20NAPA%20Coupon.htm that's good for a FREE D I A G N O S T I C C H E C K. You might call them and see what they say about repairing your pump and then mention the coupon. > Dont think I need a full rebuild but if it was not very expensive I > might just go that route. A full rebuild is several hundred dollars. If you think that's necessary, ask Rusty what he has. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
Hey Rick...trades are great...but whatever you do...DON'T let him put all of his eggs in one basket. In my opinion, one needs to have at least 3 things he can learn to do well. Rhonald 1985 300D 299,000 miles > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:41:47 -0700 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics > > > Rick, > > I wanted to go into auto repair when I got out of highschool. My dad talked > me into working for a season and then I talked myself into college. > > If I had it all to do over again I'd ABSOLUTELY go to tradeschool. No > question. If I had my choice I think I'd be an electrician but I'd like to > have a sememster to try all the different trades and see which fit me best. > The problem with college is you come out and didn't learn to actually DO > anything. Lotsa theory, so you've got all the ideas but to but the rubber to > the road? > Thats actually unfair, I interned and when I got out I was fairly adept but > man to have an actual trade. > > Absolutely don't let him go into high tech! With a recession around the > corner I'm nervous of the impending layoff. I'm in a pretty good place now > but any high tech firm is ripe for downsizing. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:08:51 -0500 > From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > My 14 y/o son wants to go into a mechanical or electrical trade when he > graduates high school. I have no problem with that, however I have > explained to him that when he gets to be 50 plus years old, he may not > like turning wrenches 40 hours a week any more. I am twisting his arm to > go to college first. He is very intelligent and will do well whatever > profession he chooses. He traded a bicycle for a non-running 5hp Honda > engine. He was thrilled to have it running within an hour of getting it > home. Instead of him taking stuff apart and ME putting it back together > correctly, he is getting better about completing tasks like this with > little input from me. > > Rick Knoble > '85 300 CD > '87 190 DT > > > - > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel > and lay it on us. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
Line transformers do this but they only bridge two phases. Line transformers work because your house is across two legs, the next house is across the one leg you are on and the third, then the next house is across the other leg you are on and the third. Put a transformer on this generator's output and you'd only be using 1/3 of the generator. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 5:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler >> Your Kohler is a 45R, which is a 45kW inherently >> regulated model. No voltage regulator - the windings >> are designed to do all the dirty work. It does, in > > It does have a voltage regulator, a Regohm unit. > There is an option for a bypass switch, so you may > be right about its ability to run without a regulator > with just a rheostat, though this unit has the regulator. > Getting information about this generator has so far > proven nearly impossible. The tattered schematic inside > the lid is just about all there is. All Kohler could do > was fax me a worse copy than I already had. > >> fact, crank from a special winding within the >> exciter,but in order to do this, it has to have a >> series-parallel battery setup to provide adequate >> current to the exciter cranking windings. > > It's a straight 24V battery bank. It draws some > 300A to crank over, pretty much like the usual > reduction starter (such as the mystery Lucas/Bendix > starter that was sitting on top of it) except for > the 2x voltage. I think the system is pretty slick. > Very smooth and quiet, the motor just starts turning > without any grinding, whining, etc. Thub-thub-thub... > >> The Hercules (later known as White-Hercules) engine on >> this model is built like a brick doghouse, and would >> be comparable as far as reliability to a 617 diesel. >> Hercules engines were used for many years in the >> industrial field, as well as in Jeeps during WWII. > > It impressed me with its stoutness. And surely is a > heavy beast! Didn't seem to be able to withstand > frozen water in the block, or rain down its neck. > Imagine that! > >> Despite having electric heat, that unit should have no >> problem taking on your whole house as a load. > > Yes, it's the application that is the problem. The > Kohler is 3-phase, the house is not. The resistance > banks (5?) in the furnace could be rewired to delta, > and at 208 volts it wouldn't draw the full rating > so the entire house could probably run on it. (That > is, everything lit at once.) But getting it _wired_ > to run on 3-phase would be a major problem. Right > now I just have it wired zig-zag with your basic > back-feed 50A dryer cable. A long ways from the 200A > equivalent service it could provide. -- As a teenager I worked for an electrical contractor. I remember a transformer that converted three phase to "three wire grounded neutral" which provided three 120v lines or 220v using any combination of two IIRC. See fig. 1-4 in: http://www.elec-toolbox.com/usefulinfo/xfmr-3ph.htm Finding a small transformer of that sort might be a problem although I seem to remember seeing them in industrial plants with three phase distribution systems. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: another thing that looks easy
Curt, Or plug up the line with a chunk/plug of white bread... It will hold the water back while you solder and will just dissolve in time and run down the drain.. It's worked for me.. Take care, Chuck On Sep 15, 2007, at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/15/2007 2:43:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Theres a horrible shower stall in our basement that I'm working to > take out. > Today I decided to tackle removing the plumbing. > I bought some 1/2" copper end caps, cut the pipe, sanded and all > like I've > seen my Dad do a million times but the DAMMED THING JUST WOULD NOT > SWEAT. > I couldn't get it to take solder for love or money... > Finally pulled the stub end out of the T it was in and essentially > swaged > the cap on. I got it WAY too hot (glowing) and just kept pounding > the solder to > it. Its never coming off but will it leak? > I managed to get it back into the T with a minimum of fuss but it > sure > wouldn't take any more solder. Hopefully what was there will hold. > We'll see... > > > > Curt, > > Did you use flux paste of any type? Most plumbing solders do not > have flux > in them. The lead free plumbing solders are a little harder to > run but > sounds like you had plenty of heat. Make sure there is no water > within 3 inches > of the joint, suck it out with a straw or siphon with a small hose. > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 264 K miles > 98 ML 320, 151 K miles > > > > > ** See what's new at http:// > www.aol.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 92 2.5 Turbo IP
If you all remember I discovered the reason my 92 has no boost is because it has a bad rack position sensor in the IP. Well today I pulled the pump off the car and was going to swap in the pump off the engine I am pulling out of another car that was running but not right. When I pulled the plug on the side of the pump I was going to install (the plug to insert the lock tool), very thin oil ran out, quite a bit. I then remember this was the engine that seemed to be getting diesel in the oil. So, I suspect this pump is not any good and really do not want to install it. So, now I do not have a spare 2.5 pump. I guess I am going to need to send my pump in and have the rack position sensor replaced. Anybody know anywhere that works on these pumps? Dont think I need a full rebuild but if it was not very expensive I might just go that route. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
>> Your Kohler is a 45R, which is a 45kW inherently >> regulated model. No voltage regulator - the windings >> are designed to do all the dirty work. It does, in > > It does have a voltage regulator, a Regohm unit. > There is an option for a bypass switch, so you may > be right about its ability to run without a regulator > with just a rheostat, though this unit has the regulator. > Getting information about this generator has so far > proven nearly impossible. The tattered schematic inside > the lid is just about all there is. All Kohler could do > was fax me a worse copy than I already had. > >> fact, crank from a special winding within the >> exciter,but in order to do this, it has to have a >> series-parallel battery setup to provide adequate >> current to the exciter cranking windings. > > It's a straight 24V battery bank. It draws some > 300A to crank over, pretty much like the usual > reduction starter (such as the mystery Lucas/Bendix > starter that was sitting on top of it) except for > the 2x voltage. I think the system is pretty slick. > Very smooth and quiet, the motor just starts turning > without any grinding, whining, etc. Thub-thub-thub... > >> The Hercules (later known as White-Hercules) engine on >> this model is built like a brick doghouse, and would >> be comparable as far as reliability to a 617 diesel. >> Hercules engines were used for many years in the >> industrial field, as well as in Jeeps during WWII. > > It impressed me with its stoutness. And surely is a > heavy beast! Didn't seem to be able to withstand > frozen water in the block, or rain down its neck. > Imagine that! > >> Despite having electric heat, that unit should have no >> problem taking on your whole house as a load. > > Yes, it's the application that is the problem. The > Kohler is 3-phase, the house is not. The resistance > banks (5?) in the furnace could be rewired to delta, > and at 208 volts it wouldn't draw the full rating > so the entire house could probably run on it. (That > is, everything lit at once.) But getting it _wired_ > to run on 3-phase would be a major problem. Right > now I just have it wired zig-zag with your basic > back-feed 50A dryer cable. A long ways from the 200A > equivalent service it could provide. -- As a teenager I worked for an electrical contractor. I remember a transformer that converted three phase to "three wire grounded neutral" which provided three 120v lines or 220v using any combination of two IIRC. See fig. 1-4 in: http://www.elec-toolbox.com/usefulinfo/xfmr-3ph.htm Finding a small transformer of that sort might be a problem although I seem to remember seeing them in industrial plants with three phase distribution systems. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: another thing that looks easy
In a message dated 9/15/2007 2:43:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theres a horrible shower stall in our basement that I'm working to take out. Today I decided to tackle removing the plumbing. I bought some 1/2" copper end caps, cut the pipe, sanded and all like I've seen my Dad do a million times but the DAMMED THING JUST WOULD NOT SWEAT. I couldn't get it to take solder for love or money... Finally pulled the stub end out of the T it was in and essentially swaged the cap on. I got it WAY too hot (glowing) and just kept pounding the solder to it. Its never coming off but will it leak? I managed to get it back into the T with a minimum of fuss but it sure wouldn't take any more solder. Hopefully what was there will hold. We'll see... Curt, Did you use flux paste of any type? Most plumbing solders do not have flux in them. The lead free plumbing solders are a little harder to run but sounds like you had plenty of heat. Make sure there is no water within 3 inches of the joint, suck it out with a straw or siphon with a small hose. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 1995 manual tranny Nissan Maxima/ bleeding
In a message dated 9/15/2007 1:10:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My girlfriend ran low on clutch fluid on her 1995 Nissan Maxima, and looks like air got sucked in. Anyone have any suggestions on how to bleed the air out of the clutch? As someone mentioned, it is very likely that something in the clutch circuit is leaking. Non the less, they will often bleed themselves if you can find a way to drive it a mile or so with out the clutch. Make sure the clutch pedal is up (you can hook it up with your toe) when you are driving as the oil port will be blocked if the pedal is left down. Procedure: warm the engine in neutral to facilitate an in gear start. Point the car in a safe direction and then push the pedal down to defeat the interlock and start the car. It will immediately begin moving so make sure all is clear. Once underway, you can leave it in low or shift up if you are good at matching speeds. as you are driving, occasionally push the pedal down to see if any progress was made. The pedal will stay down if not bled yet, just hook it back up and drive some more. Shortly, the pedal will return up by spring force, indicating the air is out, and you can shift normally. When you return, look for dripping brake fluid under the car, or possibly in the foot well on the driver's side, from the brake master cylinder. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: another thing that looks easy
Theres a horrible shower stall in our basement that I'm working to take out. Today I decided to tackle removing the plumbing. I bought some 1/2" copper end caps, cut the pipe, sanded and all like I've seen my Dad do a million times but the DAMMED THING JUST WOULD NOT SWEAT. I couldn't get it to take solder for love or money... Finally pulled the stub end out of the T it was in and essentially swaged the cap on. I got it WAY too hot (glowing) and just kept pounding the solder to it. Its never coming off but will it leak? I managed to get it back into the T with a minimum of fuss but it sure wouldn't take any more solder. Hopefully what was there will hold. We'll see... -Curt - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
The Generac home standby systems that are being sold in the big box stores these days are very well designed and engineered, despite being a Generac product (commonly know as "Genecrap" in the industry.) Dan --- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Never the less for us (see my other posts) I > suspect a 10K genny would > > allow us to live life almost without disruption. > > And for many folks. The usual whole-house automatic > standby > unit they sell is in the 10-12kW range. It's a nice > size. > A friend has a 20kW Ford/Onan industrial genset, > it's a > tiny bit large but he got a decent deal on it. I > used to > think it was hot stuff, but my Kohler makes it look > like > junk. (And the MD-3 makes the Kohler look like > junk.) > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
While this dates me a bit, I chose to go into automotive trade school after a wasted (truly wasted!) year of college at IU/Bloomington. It took a year of partying and not making grades to convince my parents that I was *not* college material at the time, despite my constant efforts to tell them as they packed me off. I went to Lincoln Technical Institute in Indianapolis at the intersection of 16th Street and Stadium (I think) drive, not far from the Mr. Bendo of the auto exhaust place on 16th Street. I got an associates degree in "automotive technology" which was a piece of cake for a kid who had been rebuilding Beetle engines since he was 13. The one course I really liked was on automatic transmissions, as I knew little about them at the time and was thoroughly amazed at how they worked. I had boatloads of interviews when I got out, but every place (including World Wide Motors, the local MB dealership who offered me a job) was a flat rate shop, and I just didn't see how you could make decent money in many of these places if the service manager controlled what jobs you got. That's not to say I was against flat rate work - I wasn't - I had already seen and heard of too many shops where if you weren't in the good graces of the person who handed out the work orders in the morning you could end up getting screwed. That's when I took my strong electrical knowledge and put it to use for an Onan (generator) distributor my engine background helped a lot as well. It's tough finding a good engine guy who can troubleshoot electrical controls, too. Send him to trade school. By all means, especially if it's something he likes doing. That was the thing for me - I loved doing what I did, and sitting in a classroom for four years was not going to put me in something I liked. Dan --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick, > > I wanted to go into auto repair when I got out of > highschool. My dad talked me into working for a > season and then I talked myself into college. > > If I had it all to do over again I'd ABSOLUTELY go > to tradeschool. No question. If I had my choice I > think I'd be an electrician but I'd like to have a > sememster to try all the different trades and see > which fit me best. > The problem with college is you come out and didn't > learn to actually DO anything. Lotsa theory, so > you've got all the ideas but to but the rubber to > the road? > Thats actually unfair, I interned and when I got out > I was fairly adept but man to have an actual trade. > > Absolutely don't let him go into high tech! With a > recession around the corner I'm nervous of the > impending layoff. I'm in a pretty good place now but > any high tech firm is ripe for downsizing. > > -Curt Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
> If I had it all to do over again I'd ABSOLUTELY go to tradeschool. > The problem with college is you didn't learn to actually DO anything. Exactly. College is supposed to provide you with an education, training is supposed to show you how to DO things. Different purposes. The education, anyway, was supposed to teach you how to think and how to learn, and to provide an information basis for your thinker to chew on. Medical and law schools, for example, are trade (training) schools. I don't believe, however, that they will accept un-educated pupils. Quite probably because they don't need to. You need to get the right kind of schooling for what you will be doing with your life. If you don't you are wasting time and money. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cranking sessions - was primer pump on 190D
Good point. Guess I've not had a cranking session yet. I should have known this because with my big block Chrysler, I would pull the distributor and insert a shaft and run the pump with a drill. And the oil pressure would get up to around 70psi. Brian On 9/15/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can watch the oil pressure climb while you're cranking - not a problem. > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outstanding
Rick - I spent about 7 years in West Central [Veedersburg, IN] while I did grad and post-grad work. 34 below one morning; coldest this FL boy ever saw. Where are you? I am not thrilled with Jacksonville summers, but I don't miss IN winters at all. No snow blowers here, but I do use Sea Foam for my generator. No complaints thus far - but thus far I have not needed it. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 295k miles -Original Message- >From: Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sep 15, 2007 4:12 PM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Outstanding > >> Is anybody on here using SeaFoam gas additive? >> http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm > >It is good stuff. I asked my local small engine guy about additives like >Sta-bil and he sold me on Seafoam. He also said to spend the money and buy >premium fuel if the machine is to sit unused for any length of time. Like >*ahem* snowblowers > >Rick Knoble >'85 300 CD >'87 190 DT > >Lows in the forties tonight here in NW Indiana. Snow is just around the >corner... > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outstanding
A half can of that is my standard motorcycle pre-riding tune-up in the spring. I also used it to pre-fill the fuel filter on my VW diesel. On 9/15/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is anybody on here using SeaFoam gas additive? > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
Rick, I wanted to go into auto repair when I got out of highschool. My dad talked me into working for a season and then I talked myself into college. If I had it all to do over again I'd ABSOLUTELY go to tradeschool. No question. If I had my choice I think I'd be an electrician but I'd like to have a sememster to try all the different trades and see which fit me best. The problem with college is you come out and didn't learn to actually DO anything. Lotsa theory, so you've got all the ideas but to but the rubber to the road? Thats actually unfair, I interned and when I got out I was fairly adept but man to have an actual trade. Absolutely don't let him go into high tech! With a recession around the corner I'm nervous of the impending layoff. I'm in a pretty good place now but any high tech firm is ripe for downsizing. -Curt Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:08:51 -0500 From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My 14 y/o son wants to go into a mechanical or electrical trade when he graduates high school. I have no problem with that, however I have explained to him that when he gets to be 50 plus years old, he may not like turning wrenches 40 hours a week any more. I am twisting his arm to go to college first. He is very intelligent and will do well whatever profession he chooses. He traded a bicycle for a non-running 5hp Honda engine. He was thrilled to have it running within an hour of getting it home. Instead of him taking stuff apart and ME putting it back together correctly, he is getting better about completing tasks like this with little input from me. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outstanding
I only buy premium when its to be "gas in a can". I also add about an ounce of seafoam to the can before I get gas. That way I don't forget. I summerized my snowblower only with seafoam this year for the first time ever. It'll be interesting to see how it does. -Curt Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:12:38 -0500 From: "Rick Knoble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Outstanding To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Is anybody on here using SeaFoam gas additive? > http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm It is good stuff. I asked my local small engine guy about additives like Sta-bil and he sold me on Seafoam. He also said to spend the money and buy premium fuel if the machine is to sit unused for any length of time. Like *ahem* snowblowers Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT Lows in the forties tonight here in NW Indiana. Snow is just around the corner... - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
> I think that there is hope - todays kids seem drawn to cars the way many of > us were in the 50s and 60s. They do much of their own work and understand > how their cars work. > > Although it seems a lot of kids are unwilling to choose this line of work. > A local community college president related this story - a local Ford dealer > told the Pres he would hire any students graduating from the CCs auto > technology program at a starting salary of $50K /yr. This was 5 years ago so > I suspect it has gone up. Sadly there were few takers. > > Oh well, life goes on -- My 14 y/o son wants to go into a mechanical or electrical trade when he graduates high school. I have no problem with that, however I have explained to him that when he gets to be 50 plus years old, he may not like turning wrenches 40 hours a week any more. I am twisting his arm to go to college first. He is very intelligent and will do well whatever profession he chooses. He traded a bicycle for a non-running 5hp Honda engine. He was thrilled to have it running within an hour of getting it home. Instead of him taking stuff apart and ME putting it back together correctly, he is getting better about completing tasks like this with little input from me. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outstanding
> Is anybody on here using SeaFoam gas additive? > http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm It is good stuff. I asked my local small engine guy about additives like Sta-bil and he sold me on Seafoam. He also said to spend the money and buy premium fuel if the machine is to sit unused for any length of time. Like *ahem* snowblowers Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT Lows in the forties tonight here in NW Indiana. Snow is just around the corner... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
you wrote that : <> Unfortunately, this is widespread IMHO. The only reason they get away with it and stay in business is the public's lack of knowledge of mechanical things. They are uninformed enough to believe the following one or more excuses: + they all do that + must be chinese parts + can't get good help these days + things aren't made to last like they used to + I've never seen or heard or that before + it's gotta be that synthetic/dino crap you;re using + you;re not using this $40 additive we sell are you? + it's the way you are driving it +you're not bringing it in to us often enough and on and on. I have long ago decided to do all the work I possibly can. Luckily I was trained as a mechanic back in the late 60s which allows me to do everything from engine and transmission rebuilds to brake work. There's somethings I refuse to do - exhaust work is a PITA so I pay someone which is also true for much of the work that needs to be done while laying on my back in the garage. Plus, I;m getting older so more and more will probably be done by others. But I;ll resist as much as possible. The biggest problem I have with others working on my car is them not doing things that obviously need done while they;re in there. If I'm working on something and see missing pr loose fasteners, I fix them. If a mechanic sees missing stuff I wish they;d tell me and I;d probably tell them to fix it. If it were me, I'd always fix things needing it. My second biggest complaint is them doing things that don't need to be done but they keep defending what they did as necessary to an absurd extent. I think that there is hope - todays kids seem drawn to cars the way many of us were in the 50s and 60s. They do much of their own work and understand how their cars work. Although it seems a lot of kids are unwilling to choose this line of work. A local community college president related this story - a local Ford dealer told the Pres he would hire any students graduating from the CCs auto technology program at a starting salary of $50K /yr. This was 5 years ago so I suspect it has gone up. Sadly there were few takers. Oh well, life goes on -- Sadly, Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics > > OMG! And I thought I was the only one who knew! > > Once I had a worn out timing set on a 302 Ford engine replaced at > the local Ford dealer's shop. Chain had climbed the sprocket. $$$ > > Not many miles later, I pulled the oil drinking engine for rebuild. 302 > Ford timing sprockets slip on the crank and cam with chain on both > sprockets when slipped on. Kind of a Chinese puzzle. > > This one had been hammered on the cam, and some of the nylon teeth > on the cam sprocket were cracked, and others were broken off. It > had worked fine with teeth broken off. > > I took the set back to the dealer with my invoice for parts and labor, > and I got a new timing set free. > > One reason to do one's own work is to avoid crap like that. I am > fortunate to have an independent foreign car mechanic who I do not > believe would ever do CLT. > > The bad news is that some of his (semi transient) help will do CLT > and worse. That is another story for another time, titled "The great > water pump change fiasco." Soon to be in paperback in stores near > you. > >> [Original Message] >> From: Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Discussion List > >> Date: 9/15/2007 10:46:53 AM >> Subject: RE: [MBZ] Transmission toasted >> >> There are still lot of jackleg mechanics who often do bad work. >> >> Thanks, >> Tom Hargrave >> www.kegkits.com >> 256-656-1924 >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Robert Bigham >> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:07 AM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted >> >> Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:13:21 -0400 >> Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted >> >> I love the term "Factory Rebuilt". >> >> In East Hartford, CT there was a dealer who rebuilt flathead fords in >> the 50's. They were advertised, stamped and invoiced as "Factory >> Rebuilt". Because Ford wanted the royalty! >> >> _ >> >> Ford has offered rebuilt major assemblies since at least Model A days. >> >> For a long time, Ford did something like franchise the rebuilding of, >> particularly, flathead engines. They required certain standards in the >> work. >> >> The rebuillt engines had a sticker saying "Authorized For
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 22, Issue 88
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:43:18 -0500 From: Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pads: Brain picking The ventilated disks are required -- otherwise the rotor cannot dissipate heat fast enough and braking efficiency drops (meaning you stop less quickly). They also save weight. __ I should have said "New or freshly refinished stock type rotors on a 123 chassis, not special cross drilled rotors." Lo siento ! Thanks for your advice. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
> If that's one of those chinese diesels, one of those little red levers > is most likely a compression release . You hold that down while first > cranking and it allows the engine to spin a little faster, then you let > off as it starts to catch ( at least it works that way on some of them > ) It's in the right place for one of those, but there's no way to actuate it without partially disassembling the enclosure! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
If that's one of those chinese diesels, one of those little red levers is most likely a compression release . You hold that down while first cranking and it allows the engine to spin a little faster, then you let off as it starts to catch ( at least it works that way on some of them ) -Robert im Cathey wrote: > First I checked the oil. It had some. Next I checked the battery, it > was dead and drew no charging current. I went and got a car battery > and a set of jumper cables and hooked it up. The key then worked, but > the engine only turned over a few times before it 'stalled'. I pulled > the end cover off the housing and spun the motor back so the starter > could get a 'run' at it, then it turned over again. It cranked a lot > but no fire. There wasn't much fuel in the tank. I poured in the 2 > gallons I had in a can and cranked again. (Sometimes I had to roll > the motor backwards again.) Eventually it started firing > intermittently, and with more cranking and running attempts it finally > got up 'on plane' and ran. Not all that noisy, even with the covers > off. > > Once it had run a few times it started easily with the key. I'm sure > being warm helped, as did getting all the air purged from the fuel > system. The set takes a long time to spin down when turned off. > There's a spring-loaded red lever behind the access hatch that applies > throttle. If you hit the release lever it drops to, or below, idle > and stops. There is also a red lever on top that I don't know the > purpose of. It can only be accessed with the box's end cover taken > off. > > There is no voltage output, either AC or DC. I checked the wiring and > such inside the cabinet, and there were no obvious faults or burned > items. The regulator is potted, so that's not very handy. There is > an exposed power diode bridge, but it checks out OK. There are no > specs or schematics that I can find, I'm not sure where to look next. > There's an odd heat-sinked box separate from the regulator that hooks > to a pair of green wires that come out of the flywheel area. It has > an inline fuse hooked to it, which I checked. Also good. There are a > lot of wires. > > It's a mystery. Perhaps I've just purchased a one-lunged diesel motor > for $400? Still not a bad deal! > > When I took the big battery off I found that the little one was now > taking a charge. We'll see if it recovers enough to be usable. It, > not fully charged, wasn't (yet) able to fight the engine's compression > enough to turn over. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Outstanding
Is anybody on here using SeaFoam gas additive? http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm My chainsaw was playing up bad, when I'd get it good and warm, say after 2-3 cuts in 12"+ wood unless I kept my finger on the throttle it'd quit. Eventually it'd quit no matter what. Once it'd quit it would not restart. If I put the choke on it'd pop but that was it. I put a bit of the Seafoam in the gas and as I was concerned about having enough lubrication I put in an equal measure of marvelous oil, about a teaspoon of each lets say. The first run was pretty good until the chain went dull on me. It did quit though when I let the throttle off. It took me awhile to find a file and carefully sharpen. Since this is the first time on a new chain I wanted to be real careful and do a good job. [and I did too.] So the saw was cool (pretty much anyway) by the time I tried it again. It fired right up and ran just fine until I was too tired and nervous of hurting my back again to keep going. Anyway I've got a couple other miracle stories about the stuff but I thought that one was pretty cool. Wouldn't work on a machine that wouldn't start I don't think but in this case it sure saved the day... -Curt - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cranking sessions - was primer pump on 190D
You can watch the oil pressure climb while you're cranking - not a problem. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cranking sessions - was primer pump on 190D
Gassers typically 50 rpm or so, diesels at least 100 rpm (won't start any slower than that). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cranking sessions - was primer pump on 190D
Well yes, but when the engine is running, you are usually doing at least 500 rpm or so. But when cranking by starter, I don't know hay many rpms the engine is doing, but it would seem to me that it would be a lot lower. Brian On 9/15/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's adequate when the engine is running isn't it? You get full > pressure (3 bar) pretty quickly unless the oil pump is badly worn or > the bearings are bad. > > The only time I would NOT crank for extended periods is when the engine > is assembled dry -- this is what assembly lube are pre-oiling pumps are > for. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
> E-mail me the link with the drawing again - you may be > able to reconnect it - I can check. Oh, maybe you're asking about the wiring of the generator's windings? I have all that. It's pretty slick, I use a welding plug to move from A to B to switch from 3-phase Wye to 1-phase Zigzag. I figured I might want to hook up some surplus 3-phase equipment someday, so I made it easy. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genzig.pdf and http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/Genwye.pdf -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Curtis Hour Meter
Hi, All. and Jim C. In my archived parts (junkpile) there is a boxed, new and never used, solid state LCD 24v hour meter. Curtis#700RR00101224VDC, yours for the asking. Fred Moir Lynn MA 300TD 190DT Bent 250E - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
> Never the less for us (see my other posts) I suspect a 10K genny would > allow us to live life almost without disruption. And for many folks. The usual whole-house automatic standby unit they sell is in the 10-12kW range. It's a nice size. A friend has a 20kW Ford/Onan industrial genset, it's a tiny bit large but he got a decent deal on it. I used to think it was hot stuff, but my Kohler makes it look like junk. (And the MD-3 makes the Kohler look like junk.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Sure do, Frigidaire wall unit. Cools the whole 900sqft house. Remember its MA, 2 maybe 3 100 degree days a year. About 3 weeks in the mid 90s and maybe 2 months in the mid '80s. 300-350KWH is what we used to run in the 650sqft apartment too. That was cooled by a huge old wall unit. I've no doubt this one is much more efficient. We've also got an electric stove and dryer. -Curt Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 09:55:28 -0500 From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. I guess you don't have A/C? I used almost 2400kWH last month. Thats the highest I've ever used though... It should go down when the central is working and I'm not using a 20+ year old wall unit (huge wall unit, cools the whole house almost). Thats also with gas stove, oven, water heater, and dryer. John - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
> Heh. RegOhm regulator - now I see it. Better hope > nothing ever happens to it - they are NLA and have > been for years. So I understand. It's an electromechanical marvel. > And what you got was an archive copy, which probably > looks as bad as the one you got. Worse. But it was all there, and with its help and some skull sweat I was able to piece together the original schematic, which I then recreated in Illustrator. > E-mail me the link with the drawing again - you may be > able to reconnect it - I can check. Que? My recreated schematic is: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset/genschem.pdf The main link is http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset.html > Consumption probably isn't as bad as you suspect. > I'll check some numbers when I get a chance. That would be great! > Are they circuit breakers or contactors? Either way, > they are probably Westinghouse ATS' brand labeled for > Kohler. Pretty beefy and simple to work on as well. Contactors/transfer switches. One big 400A red handled Westinghouse 3-pole service disconnect switch too. The transfer switches are ASCO and Onan, and one big old 300A Zenith transfer switch I like the looks of. Six big metal boxes for $60, my kind of deal! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Actually I knew that which is why I used the 10K per day. In fact your usage isn't linear anyway so 10K/8 is probably a more realistic (but still way too low) number. Meaning the bulk of electricity we use is probably centered around about 8 hours of the day, say 3 in the morning and 5 at night. Never the less for us (see my other posts) I suspect a 10K genny would allow us to live life almost without disruption. -Curt Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:50:42 -0700 From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. Lets use 30 days for > a month, thats ~10KW a day. > Based on that I'd say a 10Kw generator would be plenty for us. You have a units problem. What you buy from the power company is kilowatt-HOURS. What you buy from the store is kilowatt capacity. That is, your typical generattle can pump out 5-6kWH in an hour. But what you usually have to purchase in generating capacity is the ability to handle your peak load, whatever that is. If your math above was accurate, you would only need to purchase a 10k/24 or 400 Watt generator in order to supply your monthly needs. It would run at max capacity 24/7. If you were running a household like a hybrid car, with a battery (or other) system to level the load, that 400W generator _would_ do it, ignoring inefficiencies. -- Jim - Don't let your dream ride pass you by.Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
> Just google "rotary phase converter" - they're all > over the place. A poor man's way to get 3 phase to > single phase for years. A "poor man" will not be buying a 45kW rotary converter! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
CLT = crap like that. Sorry. I thought the preceding paragraph where I spelled it out would make the meaning of CLT clear. > [Original Message] > From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Discussion List > Date: 9/15/2007 11:35:35 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:01:55 -0500 "Robert Bigham" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The bad news is that some of his (semi transient) help will do CLT > > and worse. That is another story for another time, titled "The great > > water pump change fiasco." Soon to be in paperback in stores near > > you. > > CLT? > > > Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
First I checked the oil. It had some. Next I checked the battery, it was dead and drew no charging current. I went and got a car battery and a set of jumper cables and hooked it up. The key then worked, but the engine only turned over a few times before it 'stalled'. I pulled the end cover off the housing and spun the motor back so the starter could get a 'run' at it, then it turned over again. It cranked a lot but no fire. There wasn't much fuel in the tank. I poured in the 2 gallons I had in a can and cranked again. (Sometimes I had to roll the motor backwards again.) Eventually it started firing intermittently, and with more cranking and running attempts it finally got up 'on plane' and ran. Not all that noisy, even with the covers off. Once it had run a few times it started easily with the key. I'm sure being warm helped, as did getting all the air purged from the fuel system. The set takes a long time to spin down when turned off. There's a spring-loaded red lever behind the access hatch that applies throttle. If you hit the release lever it drops to, or below, idle and stops. There is also a red lever on top that I don't know the purpose of. It can only be accessed with the box's end cover taken off. There is no voltage output, either AC or DC. I checked the wiring and such inside the cabinet, and there were no obvious faults or burned items. The regulator is potted, so that's not very handy. There is an exposed power diode bridge, but it checks out OK. There are no specs or schematics that I can find, I'm not sure where to look next. There's an odd heat-sinked box separate from the regulator that hooks to a pair of green wires that come out of the flywheel area. It has an inline fuse hooked to it, which I checked. Also good. There are a lot of wires. It's a mystery. Perhaps I've just purchased a one-lunged diesel motor for $400? Still not a bad deal! When I took the big battery off I found that the little one was now taking a charge. We'll see if it recovers enough to be usable. It, not fully charged, wasn't (yet) able to fight the engine's compression enough to turn over. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
--- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It does have a voltage regulator, a Regohm unit. > There is an option for a bypass switch, so you may > be right about its ability to run without a > regulator > with just a rheostat, though this unit has the > regulator. > Getting information about this generator has so far > proven nearly impossible. The tattered schematic > inside > the lid is just about all there is. All Kohler > could do > was fax me a worse copy than I already had. Heh. RegOhm regulator - now I see it. Better hope nothing ever happens to it - they are NLA and have been for years. There was some guy who was rebuilding them when I first started at Kohler in the late 80s, but I have no idea if he's still around. And what you got was an archive copy, which probably looks as bad as the one you got. They had a big project years ago to microfilm all the drawings, which ended up filling literally 20 thick binders. I used to have a full set of these - I just recently sent them to a former business partner who is still in the generator business. > It's a straight 24V battery bank. It draws some > 300A to crank over, pretty much like the usual > reduction starter (such as the mystery Lucas/Bendix > starter that was sitting on top of it) except for > the 2x voltage. I think the system is pretty slick. > Very smooth and quiet, the motor just starts turning > without any grinding, whining, etc. > Thub-thub-thub... Yes, exciter cranked units are pretty cool. I used to love working on them, as they are really simple despite the looks of the diagrams. > It impressed me with its stoutness. And surely is a > heavy beast! Didn't seem to be able to withstand > frozen water in the block, or rain down its neck. > Imagine that! What engine would? Hercules engines have been in the industrial world for a long time, and are virtually indestructible. Parts are expensive, but when you factor the longevity, they're cheap. > Yes, it's the application that is the problem. The > Kohler is 3-phase, the house is not. The resistance > banks (5?) in the furnace could be rewired to delta, > and at 208 volts it wouldn't draw the full rating > so the entire house could probably run on it. (That > is, everything lit at once.) But getting it _wired_ > to run on 3-phase would be a major problem. Right > now I just have it wired zig-zag with your basic > back-feed 50A dryer cable. A long ways from the > 200A > equivalent service it could provide. E-mail me the link with the drawing again - you may be able to reconnect it - I can check. > And we don't have propane here, so fueling it is an > issue at the moment. I've not run it for very long > yet, it looks _hungry_ and all I have is 5- and > 10-gallon bottles. Consumption probably isn't as bad as you suspect. I'll check some numbers when I get a chance. > I bought a pallet-load of old ones, also from GSA. > One > 400A one is interesting, same vintage as the genny > and > also built like a brick. Are they circuit breakers or contactors? Either way, they are probably Westinghouse ATS' brand labeled for Kohler. Pretty beefy and simple to work on as well. Dan Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
I did & the ones I found converted single phase to three phase. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 09/15/07 11:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Just google "rotary phase converter" - they're all over the place. A poor man's way to get 3 phase to single phase for years. Dan --- Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The easiest & most efficient way to convert three > phase to single phase is > through a motor / generator set. Now, finding one is > another issue. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:01:55 -0500 "Robert Bigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bad news is that some of his (semi transient) help will do CLT > and worse. That is another story for another time, titled "The great > water pump change fiasco." Soon to be in paperback in stores near > you. CLT? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
Just google "rotary phase converter" - they're all over the place. A poor man's way to get 3 phase to single phase for years. Dan --- Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The easiest & most efficient way to convert three > phase to single phase is > through a motor / generator set. Now, finding one is > another issue. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
There are two concerns with natural gas: 1.) Natural gas will have the lowest BTU content of any fuel (LP, gasoline, natural gas.) As a result, you won't get the nameplate ratings out of the genset (engine) unless it's already rated for natural gas at the given kW rating. 2.) In the event of an emergency, there is a remote possibility that natural gas might not be available. This is why standby gensets at critical sites are not allowed to use natural gas as the only fuel - they must have dual fuel automatic changeover systems, using natural and LP, so that if one fails it will change over automatically to the other fuel. It's highly unlikely that you will ever lose natural gas service, but it's something to consider. Given the choice, I would go with LP because it's easy to store in fairly large volumes and you get more output with it, too. Also, using a "dry" fuel like natural gas or LP increases the longevity of the engine, and reduces the maintenance intervals, too. If you use diesel, you've got to have a source, a tank, piping, etc., not to mention having to worry about fuel stability. Dan --- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well since we already have natural gas, I would > think natural gas would > be the way to go although i think I would prefer a > diesel, since I just > love diesels. > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:50:42 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. Lets use 30 days for > > a month, thats ~10KW a day. > > Based on that I'd say a 10Kw generator would be plenty for us. > > You have a units problem. What you buy from the power company > is kilowatt-HOURS. What you buy from the store is kilowatt capacity. Exactly. What you get from a generator is power, the rate of doing work: 1 horsepower = 550 ft-lbs/sec 1 kilowatt = 1.34 horsepower What you buy from the power company is energy, the amount of work done: 1 kilowatt-hour = 2,655,224 ft-lb = 3412 BTU = 3.6 x 10^6 joules The relationship is: Energy = Power * Time > But what you usually have to purchase in generating capacity is > the ability to handle your peak load, whatever that is. The peak load is indeed the problem. > Again the beauty of regional differences. > Here in MA I'm not so much worried about hurricanes knocking out power > as I am snowstorms. Curt's situation requires less electrical power than someone in Florida. Since he is willing to modify his lifestyle to accomodate electrical power interruptions, he can get by with a lot lower power generator. When we lived in rural Colorado, for several years we were hauling water in 5 gallon containers, had propane heat and a propane refrigerator. The Honda EM500 generator we used was more than adequate to power lights and a stereo system. We had a car radio and two 6 volt lead-acid batteries to listen to during the day when we wanted to not run the generator. When we got our 4 kW propane-fired genset running, we were able to run the well pump to fill the water system's pressure tank and then shut the generator down and still have 25 gallons of pressurized water available. >From the sounds of Curt's situation, a 500 W generator might be all he needs. If he wants to run a washing machine, 4 kW should be enough. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to identify a tranny model
On later models like 123 and later it is. I seem to recall earlier models like 108s and 114s having it stamped in the right rear corner of the housing, just above the pan... Dan --- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its on a little flat spot i believe right above the > pan on the front > passenger side front Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted: jackleg mechanics
OMG! And I thought I was the only one who knew! Once I had a worn out timing set on a 302 Ford engine replaced at the local Ford dealer's shop. Chain had climbed the sprocket. $$$ Not many miles later, I pulled the oil drinking engine for rebuild. 302 Ford timing sprockets slip on the crank and cam with chain on both sprockets when slipped on. Kind of a Chinese puzzle. This one had been hammered on the cam, and some of the nylon teeth on the cam sprocket were cracked, and others were broken off. It had worked fine with teeth broken off. I took the set back to the dealer with my invoice for parts and labor, and I got a new timing set free. One reason to do one's own work is to avoid crap like that. I am fortunate to have an independent foreign car mechanic who I do not believe would ever do CLT. The bad news is that some of his (semi transient) help will do CLT and worse. That is another story for another time, titled "The great water pump change fiasco." Soon to be in paperback in stores near you. > [Original Message] > From: Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mercedes Discussion List > Date: 9/15/2007 10:46:53 AM > Subject: RE: [MBZ] Transmission toasted > > There are still lot of jackleg mechanics who often do bad work. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Robert Bigham > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:07 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted > > Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:13:21 -0400 > Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted > > I love the term "Factory Rebuilt". > > In East Hartford, CT there was a dealer who rebuilt flathead fords in > the 50's. They were advertised, stamped and invoiced as "Factory > Rebuilt". Because Ford wanted the royalty! > > _ > > Ford has offered rebuilt major assemblies since at least Model A days. > > For a long time, Ford did something like franchise the rebuilding of, > particularly, flathead engines. They required certain standards in the > work. > > The rebuillt engines had a sticker saying "Authorized Ford Rebuilt" > or "Ford Authorized Rebuilt", one of those, on the heads. > > There was no representation the rebuilt engines were sent back > to Dearborn or wherever. They were rebuilt in a shop, just as > they are rebuilt now. What Ford was offering was a set of > standards and predictable quality of the finished engine. > > I hate to have to tell you, but there used to be a lot of jackleg > mechanics who often did bad work. The Authorized Ford > Rebuilt program offered a way to avoid that. > > Many Ford engines now are good for one rebuild - if the time > arrives for a second rebuild, the castings may be too thin for > resizing a second time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake pads: Brain picking
> I'd like to pick your brains about brake pads. I think pads are a _lot_ easier to replace than rotors. I do not want rock-hard 'forever' pads that wear the rotors excessively, nor do I want squeaks. The OEM pads work well for me. The hardest part about changing pads on these cars is jacking up the car and taking off the wheel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake pads: Brain picking
I used to believe that brake pads were a compromise but that's no longer true with newer ceramic pads. Today, you can buy pads that last a long time, create little dust and do an excellent job stopping the car. Just don't run down to your favorite discount auto parts store & ask for ceramic pads. They've all learned that ceramic pads have become popular and they have added their own lines, but with no claims to anything special other than they are "superior". Order your ceramic pads from Rusty. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pads: Brain picking The ventilated disks are required -- otherwise the rotor cannot dissipate heat fast enough and braking efficiency drops (meaning you stop less quickly). They also save weight. Brake pads are always a compromise -- you have to trade off stopping power with wear of pads and wear of brake rotors, cold stopping power (what you need on the road, as you are not using them much, if at all) vs hot stopping power (racing, where you stand on them every 30 seconds or so). The OEM pads are a very good compromise for normal driving. You loose some pad life in exchange for excellent stopping ability with cold brakes while keeping rotor wear within reasonable limits (every third set of pads, more or less). Racing pads (most ceramics, full metallics, etc) have fairly poor cold stopping power -- you have to STAND on the pedal until they heat up. This is scary -- when that kid zips down a blind driveway onto the street, you don't what to have to explain to his parents that you needed to warm up the brakes to avoid squashing him I get upwards of 30,000 miles out of a set of pads, maybe more. I've put two sets on the 300D in 110,000 miles so far, and no signs that the last one is bad yet, although I'm expecting them to wear out soon. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted
There are still lot of jackleg mechanics who often do bad work. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Bigham Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:13:21 -0400 Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted I love the term "Factory Rebuilt". In East Hartford, CT there was a dealer who rebuilt flathead fords in the 50's. They were advertised, stamped and invoiced as "Factory Rebuilt". Because Ford wanted the royalty! _ Ford has offered rebuilt major assemblies since at least Model A days. For a long time, Ford did something like franchise the rebuilding of, particularly, flathead engines. They required certain standards in the work. The rebuillt engines had a sticker saying "Authorized Ford Rebuilt" or "Ford Authorized Rebuilt", one of those, on the heads. There was no representation the rebuilt engines were sent back to Dearborn or wherever. They were rebuilt in a shop, just as they are rebuilt now. What Ford was offering was a set of standards and predictable quality of the finished engine. I hate to have to tell you, but there used to be a lot of jackleg mechanics who often did bad work. The Authorized Ford Rebuilt program offered a way to avoid that. Many Ford engines now are good for one rebuild - if the time arrives for a second rebuild, the castings may be too thin for resizing a second time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake pads: Brain picking
The ventilated disks are required -- otherwise the rotor cannot dissipate heat fast enough and braking efficiency drops (meaning you stop less quickly). They also save weight. Brake pads are always a compromise -- you have to trade off stopping power with wear of pads and wear of brake rotors, cold stopping power (what you need on the road, as you are not using them much, if at all) vs hot stopping power (racing, where you stand on them every 30 seconds or so). The OEM pads are a very good compromise for normal driving. You loose some pad life in exchange for excellent stopping ability with cold brakes while keeping rotor wear within reasonable limits (every third set of pads, more or less). Racing pads (most ceramics, full metallics, etc) have fairly poor cold stopping power -- you have to STAND on the pedal until they heat up. This is scary -- when that kid zips down a blind driveway onto the street, you don't what to have to explain to his parents that you needed to warm up the brakes to avoid squashing him I get upwards of 30,000 miles out of a set of pads, maybe more. I've put two sets on the 300D in 110,000 miles so far, and no signs that the last one is bad yet, although I'm expecting them to wear out soon. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cleaning CIS injectors
Hello pro and anti injector cleaners. In the interest of beating a possibly dead horse, I offer this which I learned by Googling. Some may be interested. I found a mail them in service that cleans and repairs all kinds of modern electrically operated gasoline injectors, no diesel, and they certaninly talk a good game. WitchHunter Performance in Bothell WA. www.witchhunter.com. Beautiful website. Here's what they had to say about cleaning CIS injectors: "Robert, We now just test but not clean the CIS injectors since they don't clean well due to their design. The internal filter can't be replaced and their one-way flow design won't allow back-flushing the debris out of them. No parts are included with our $8 each testing only service. [I thought I read they furnished new seals at $8/injector testing, which sounded too good to be true, and asked for clarification.] Gordon WitchHunter Performance / InjectorServices 206-919-0794" At $8 to have a reason to say I know whether an injector is good or junk, I'm in. FULL DISCLOSURE: Also charges $8 per job to send the injectors back by Priority Mail, US addrresses only. Plus of course it costs about the same to send the injectors to him. It seems now that if there is varnish that can be dissolved, then you or I can clean them. Maybe a pour it in the fuel tank cleaner by itself is OK. If there is rust, junk, or gritters in the internal screen, we are largely out of luck. Seems to make sense to me. FWIW. Aloha. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to identify a tranny model
Its on a little flat spot i believe right above the pan on the front passenger side front [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does anyone know whether a part number identifying an MB tranny as 722.xxx is > actually stamped on the transmission. If not, how does one identify what type > of transmission one has. Do I have to cross reference other part numbers from > the housing, etc. I've been hunting the salvage yards and I'm sure most don't > really have a clue what specific tranny they have other than what car it came > from. I'd like to be sure before I drive a long distance to pick one up. TIA > > Ralph Wasserbaech > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake pads: Brain picking
Hello smart people whoever you are I'd like to pick your brains about brake pads. One point of view is that of Daimler Benz AG: Don't use anything except what we say. For me that means Jurid this or Textar that. Another says metallic only. Accept no substitutes. I've had metallic pads that seemed to last forever with no problems. Another says ceramic only. Much better. Some of the metallic or ceramic, I forget which, are supposed to last forever, but wear out everything else (rotors?). Or so I think I've read or heard. I'm thinking of a situation wherein there are new or refinished rotors without vent holes, and reused sound calipers. Probabably new small hardware. What do you think? All points of view accepted. Thanks Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans Fluid
The factory ones in the radiator are not adequate for heavy duty use -- if you are going to pull a trailer of any size, carry full loads for long distances, etc, install an additional transmission cooler -- it will indeed keep the tranny working. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Well since we already have natural gas, I would think natural gas would be the way to go although i think I would prefer a diesel, since I just love diesels. Scott Ritchey wrote: > The standard residential service entrance is 200amp, 220 volt or 44KW. But > you can get by with much less. > > I have a 15KW unit (220v 65 amp) that runs everything except the two heat > pumps and it would run those too except for the emergency heat strips. > > You also need to consider fuel. LP (and natural gas) is good forever and > you can get large tanks (mine is 500gal underground). But long term storage > of Diesel or gas is problematic and getting fuel is also a problem if power > outages are widespread. Also, a big generator will use significantly more > fuel than a small one for the same small load. > > Generac (aka Centurion and Guardian) and Briggs and Stratton sell packages > with automatic switchover gear which are cost competitive. Kohler is more > expensive as I recall. Those packages are designed to power a limited > number (8-12) of circuits where each circuit is wired to the switchover box. > In an existing installation, this means lots of splices in the existing > power panel. You can also get a 100 amp switchover box that powers a whole > subpanel for about the same price. > > If you go with a manual setup, you can turn off the breakers to big > unnecessary loads (like a water heater) or not use them (like a dryer), > disconnect from commercial power (preferably a break-before-make transfer > switch) and apply generator power. This is the cheapest solution but it > requires you to be there to set it up. > > I chose an automatic Generac system mainly in case I was out of town ... my > wife is NOT mechanically inclined. If the power is out for about 15 > seconds, it fires up the engine and switches the load to the generator after > about a minute (for warm up). Later, it switches back to commercial power > after the power comes back solid for a couple minutes. There have been > cases when we did not know the power was out until we went outside and heard > the generator. > > Personally, I think 5KW would be fine for a cabin or as a manual emergency > power source but you probably want 10-15KW to run the whole house. And even > then, don't run big loads like a dryer or electric heat. Also, for an > automatic standby generator, I think LP or natural gas is the only way to > go. If you have gas, you can also use it for heating (fire place, water > heater, stove, etc.) so you won't have many really big electric loads. > Finally, I think a 20-40KW generator is overkill and those are MUCH more > expensive (although quieter because they are often water cooled and run at > lower RPM) than the smaller units. > > Of course if you already have a big gas or diesel storage tank that you use > regularly, you have other good options. > > Anyway, that's my experience and opinion. > > Scott Ritchey > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:35 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog > > so what size would a person need that would run everything at the same time > like regular line power? If I ever got one I would want it hooked into the > house power with a switch or whatever to connect or disconnect it. What > would be really great would be something that automatically kicks in if the > power goes out. I bet something like that would be expensive though. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730 FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:22 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog > > >> During power outages, plan to use a camping stove or the BBQ and maybe the > >> microwave. Don't wash the clothes etc. >> The generator will run the lights, the furnace fan, the refrigerator etc >> but probably not all at once. Be prepared >> to shift things around a bit. If you don't have outages often or for long, > >> extension cords etc are probably >> sufficient. If it happens all the time and for longer than a few hours, >> then you will find it more comfortable if >> you have something bigger and more permanent. There is a nice writeup on a > >> web site by a fellow in Florida who has >> to contend with hurricanes. He has a setup with one of the Lister style >> diesel engines and a big genrator head. He >> has written a good description of how and why he has done what he has and >> some tips on how to adjust the thing etc. >> I don't have the url here but it is on the computer at home and could be >> obtained if anyone is interested. >> >> Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see o
Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted
Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:13:21 -0400 Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission toasted I love the term "Factory Rebuilt". In East Hartford, CT there was a dealer who rebuilt flathead fords in the 50's. They were advertised, stamped and invoiced as "Factory Rebuilt". Because Ford wanted the royalty! _ Ford has offered rebuilt major assemblies since at least Model A days. For a long time, Ford did something like franchise the rebuilding of, particularly, flathead engines. They required certain standards in the work. The rebuillt engines had a sticker saying "Authorized Ford Rebuilt" or "Ford Authorized Rebuilt", one of those, on the heads. There was no representation the rebuilt engines were sent back to Dearborn or wherever. They were rebuilt in a shop, just as they are rebuilt now. What Ford was offering was a set of standards and predictable quality of the finished engine. I hate to have to tell you, but there used to be a lot of jackleg mechanics who often did bad work. The Authorized Ford Rebuilt program offered a way to avoid that. Many Ford engines now are good for one rebuild - if the time arrives for a second rebuild, the castings may be too thin for resizing a second time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to identify a tranny model
r > side of the case, just above the pan. There's also an application guide > at http://peterschmid.com/ under "Application Guide." Also, the EPC > datacard and http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng will usually tell you > the full tranny number for a particular VIN so you can tell if it has > been replaced (but not rebuilt.) Thanks Tom. The VIN decoder is really cool. Lists every detail and option on my car. Ralph Wasserbaech '87 300TD '01 E320 wagon '90 300D '83 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans compatibility
no, the 82 trans will not work. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello All, > I'm having further bad luck with my fleet. I think the trans in my '87 300TD > is finally toast. It's been on its way with lots of flaring but still got the > job done. Now it will hardly shift into third and not into fourth at all. > Fluid level is fine. I assume that bad vacuum wouldn't cause this. My real > question is how compatible are various MB trannies. The tranny in this car is > a 722.317. Is there any chance that a transmission (722.315) from an '82 > 300TD would work in this car? I've got two of these in my shed. > > Ralph Wasserbaech > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My latest score
I didnt think you liked 140's. Did you sell one that was your parents or something? So tell about the new one you bought? Also tell about this old beat up 95? They getting rid of it? The 140 did change quite a bit. Some things for the better, some not. The earlier ones had more features, but also had potential wiring harness issues and such, as well as the evaporator etc. The later ones they seem to be stripped down somewhat with less features, and things that were standard on the earlier ones, are optional on the later ones. By then they had wiring issue solved. Not sure about the evaporator thing or not. Did that ever get solved in the 140? tom savage wrote: > I just bought a 140 also. Sweet one-owner '98 S420, as clean as you > could imagine. A local dealer actually had it on the lot. Previous > owner lived in the old-money part of town and (I swear I'm not making > this up) his first name is Adolph. Used Mercedes provenance doesn't get > much better than that. Might need a new thermostat, though. > > Not a stick, but after every other-marque three-pedal test drive I got > back in the beat-up, bad-evaporator '95 S320 company car and thought > "ah." The realization that in January a year-long interstate > closure is going to make my commute a living hell helped in the decision > as well. > > I hadn't realized before just how much the 140 changed over its > production run. A '97-'99 is an almost completely different car than a > '92-'93; think 450SL vs 560SL. > > Tom > '82 300D > '96 Passat TDI (dead) > '98 S420 > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> So I today I buy a 92 300SD from the Mercedes dealer in Wichita. I got >> them down 2k off there already VERY cheap price. 137k miles. Damn >> thing is near perfect. They dont mess with those old cars like that. I >> am surprised they didnt just run it thru the auction right off the bat. >> Geez, I have been missing the 140. It makes the 126 look like a POS >> FROD or something. When I got it home and was digging thru it, what do >> I find in the rear seat pocket but a BRAND NEW Ipod Nano. I mean BRAND >> NEW. Never been opened. Holy crap!! I dont care anything about Ipods >> but the wife does. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans Fluid
the 116 does as well. Marshall Booth wrote: > Dan Weeks wrote: >> The single biggest factor in premature trans failure, besides overt >> abuse, is heat. WHen I used to tow, I installed a trans temp gauge in >> my tow cars. Ran fairly flimsey automatics (700R4) hundreds of >> thousands of miles without failures. Just made sure the trans was >> running cool. I'd like to plumb one into my 300SD sometime, just for >> kicks. > > Your 300SD (if it's a 126) should already have a transmission fluid > cooler! Not sure about a 116 SD. > > Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to identify a tranny model
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does anyone know whether a part number identifying an MB tranny as 722.xxx is > actually stamped on the transmission. If not, how does one identify what type > of transmission one has. Do I have to cross reference other part numbers from > the housing, etc. I've been hunting the salvage yards and I'm sure most don't > really have a clue what specific tranny they have other than what car it came > from. I'd like to be sure before I drive a long distance to pick one up. TIA The full transmission number is stamped on the bottom of the passenger side of the case, just above the pan. There's also an application guide at http://peterschmid.com/ under "Application Guide." Also, the EPC datacard and http://www.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/?lng=eng will usually tell you the full tranny number for a particular VIN so you can tell if it has been replaced (but not rebuilt.) Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Curt Raymond wrote: > We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. I guess you don't have A/C? I used almost 2400kWH last month. Thats the highest I've ever used though... It should go down when the central is working and I'm not using a 20+ year old wall unit (huge wall unit, cools the whole house almost). Thats also with gas stove, oven, water heater, and dryer. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 82 SD For sale Calling Dan Weeks
Thanks, Loren, and others who commented. It was sold when I called, the night I got the email. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cranking sessions - was primer pump on 190D
It's adequate when the engine is running isn't it? You get full pressure (3 bar) pretty quickly unless the oil pump is badly worn or the bearings are bad. The only time I would NOT crank for extended periods is when the engine is assembled dry -- this is what assembly lube are pre-oiling pumps are for. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] How to identify a tranny model
Does anyone know whether a part number identifying an MB tranny as 722.xxx is actually stamped on the transmission. If not, how does one identify what type of transmission one has. Do I have to cross reference other part numbers from the housing, etc. I've been hunting the salvage yards and I'm sure most don't really have a clue what specific tranny they have other than what car it came from. I'd like to be sure before I drive a long distance to pick one up. TIA Ralph Wasserbaech ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
The easiest & most efficient way to convert three phase to single phase is through a motor / generator set. Now, finding one is another issue. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 8:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler > Your Kohler is a 45R, which is a 45kW inherently > regulated model. No voltage regulator - the windings > are designed to do all the dirty work. It does, in It does have a voltage regulator, a Regohm unit. There is an option for a bypass switch, so you may be right about its ability to run without a regulator with just a rheostat, though this unit has the regulator. Getting information about this generator has so far proven nearly impossible. The tattered schematic inside the lid is just about all there is. All Kohler could do was fax me a worse copy than I already had. > fact, crank from a special winding within the > exciter,but in order to do this, it has to have a > series-parallel battery setup to provide adequate > current to the exciter cranking windings. It's a straight 24V battery bank. It draws some 300A to crank over, pretty much like the usual reduction starter (such as the mystery Lucas/Bendix starter that was sitting on top of it) except for the 2x voltage. I think the system is pretty slick. Very smooth and quiet, the motor just starts turning without any grinding, whining, etc. Thub-thub-thub... > The Hercules (later known as White-Hercules) engine on > this model is built like a brick doghouse, and would > be comparable as far as reliability to a 617 diesel. > Hercules engines were used for many years in the > industrial field, as well as in Jeeps during WWII. It impressed me with its stoutness. And surely is a heavy beast! Didn't seem to be able to withstand frozen water in the block, or rain down its neck. Imagine that! > Despite having electric heat, that unit should have no > problem taking on your whole house as a load. Yes, it's the application that is the problem. The Kohler is 3-phase, the house is not. The resistance banks (5?) in the furnace could be rewired to delta, and at 208 volts it wouldn't draw the full rating so the entire house could probably run on it. (That is, everything lit at once.) But getting it _wired_ to run on 3-phase would be a major problem. Right now I just have it wired zig-zag with your basic back-feed 50A dryer cable. A long ways from the 200A equivalent service it could provide. And we don't have propane here, so fueling it is an issue at the moment. I've not run it for very long yet, it looks _hungry_ and all I have is 5- and 10-gallon bottles. > Why there would have been a bendix starter on it I > have no idea. Since it was a GSA unit, there is a > remote possibility that it was added on as an option, > which would be noted by the option codes on the > nameplate. No, somebody used the genny as a handy table and forgot that the starter didn't belong there. There are no teeth on the flywheel! > Now all you need is an automatic transfer switch... I bought a pallet-load of old ones, also from GSA. One 400A one is interesting, same vintage as the genny and also built like a brick. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 45kW Kohler
> Your Kohler is a 45R, which is a 45kW inherently > regulated model. No voltage regulator - the windings > are designed to do all the dirty work. It does, in It does have a voltage regulator, a Regohm unit. There is an option for a bypass switch, so you may be right about its ability to run without a regulator with just a rheostat, though this unit has the regulator. Getting information about this generator has so far proven nearly impossible. The tattered schematic inside the lid is just about all there is. All Kohler could do was fax me a worse copy than I already had. > fact, crank from a special winding within the > exciter,but in order to do this, it has to have a > series-parallel battery setup to provide adequate > current to the exciter cranking windings. It's a straight 24V battery bank. It draws some 300A to crank over, pretty much like the usual reduction starter (such as the mystery Lucas/Bendix starter that was sitting on top of it) except for the 2x voltage. I think the system is pretty slick. Very smooth and quiet, the motor just starts turning without any grinding, whining, etc. Thub-thub-thub... > The Hercules (later known as White-Hercules) engine on > this model is built like a brick doghouse, and would > be comparable as far as reliability to a 617 diesel. > Hercules engines were used for many years in the > industrial field, as well as in Jeeps during WWII. It impressed me with its stoutness. And surely is a heavy beast! Didn't seem to be able to withstand frozen water in the block, or rain down its neck. Imagine that! > Despite having electric heat, that unit should have no > problem taking on your whole house as a load. Yes, it's the application that is the problem. The Kohler is 3-phase, the house is not. The resistance banks (5?) in the furnace could be rewired to delta, and at 208 volts it wouldn't draw the full rating so the entire house could probably run on it. (That is, everything lit at once.) But getting it _wired_ to run on 3-phase would be a major problem. Right now I just have it wired zig-zag with your basic back-feed 50A dryer cable. A long ways from the 200A equivalent service it could provide. And we don't have propane here, so fueling it is an issue at the moment. I've not run it for very long yet, it looks _hungry_ and all I have is 5- and 10-gallon bottles. > Why there would have been a bendix starter on it I > have no idea. Since it was a GSA unit, there is a > remote possibility that it was added on as an option, > which would be noted by the option codes on the > nameplate. No, somebody used the genny as a handy table and forgot that the starter didn't belong there. There are no teeth on the flywheel! > Now all you need is an automatic transfer switch... I bought a pallet-load of old ones, also from GSA. One 400A one is interesting, same vintage as the genny and also built like a brick. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Your Kohler is a 45R, which is a 45kW inherently regulated model. No voltage regulator - the windings are designed to do all the dirty work. It does, in fact, crank from a special winding within the exciter,but in order to do this, it has to have a series-parallel battery setup to provide adequate current to the exciter cranking windings. The Hercules (later known as White-Hercules) engine on this model is built like a brick doghouse, and would be comparable as far as reliability to a 617 diesel. Hercules engines were used for many years in the industrial field, as well as in Jeeps during WWII. Despite having electric heat, that unit should have no problem taking on your whole house as a load. Why there would have been a bendix starter on it I have no idea. Since it was a GSA unit, there is a remote possibility that it was added on as an option, which would be noted by the option codes on the nameplate. Now all you need is an automatic transfer switch... Dan (former Kohler guy) --- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so I bought it today. $390. (Picked up a big > swamp > cooler too, $230.) I made a web page for it: > > http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/genset3.html > > I won't be able to do much with it for awhile. But > you > get while the getting is good. If you want to save > money. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
> We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. Lets use 30 days for > a month, thats ~10KW a day. > Based on that I'd say a 10Kw generator would be plenty for us. You have a units problem. What you buy from the power company is kilowatt-HOURS. What you buy from the store is kilowatt capacity. That is, your typical generattle can pump out 5-6kWH in an hour. But what you usually have to purchase in generating capacity is the ability to handle your peak load, whatever that is. If your math above was accurate, you would only need to purchase a 10k/24 or 400 Watt generator in order to supply your monthly needs. It would run at max capacity 24/7. If you were running a household like a hybrid car, with a battery (or other) system to level the load, that 400W generator _would_ do it, ignoring inefficiencies. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Again the beauty of regional differences. Here in MA I'm not so much worried about hurricanes knocking out power as I am snowstorms. In the event of a snowstorm taking out power keeping the food from spoiling isn't as big a worry as keeping warm and the woodstove is the prime device for that. The camp stove will cook well enough for us to get by. Town water is pretty reliable here (never had it go off in the year we've been here or the 7 years we lived in the next town over. Cold stuff stays cold by bringing snow inside or putting water bottles out to freeze and then bringing them in. We've got a porch thats not heated so food can go out there too. I was thinking for awhile that folks in FL would need a sump pump to run too but then I remembered how few basements there are down there. Here in the summer a fan would be nice but not required. The fridge will warm up sure but as you say that'll take a few days. I keep ice bottles in the fridge to make it more efficient anyway which should help in the event of an outage. Everybody's needs are different... -Curt Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:04:30 -0400 From: "Scott Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Having been through a few hurricanes in FL, the important things are (1) well pump ... if you are on a well, (1a) lift station if you have one (2) refrigeration so your food doesn't spoil although it's good for 2-3 days if you don't open the door, (3) a light or two to dress, bath, etc, (4) a fan if it's summer, and (5) computer (if the phone still works) so you can communicate with friends and family. I don't think solar and an inverter is up to doing the job. Scott Ritchey - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
I figured Craig's number was an oversimplification so I figured I'd try an estimate. We use ~300KW/month during the height of summer. Lets use 30 days for a month, thats ~10KW a day. Based on that I'd say a 10Kw generator would be plenty for us. Well really I could even say we could use far less because we surely don't create all 10KW at one time but giving extra capacity means we wouldn't overload with high demand. Of course I realize that we probably use alot less electricity than some folks. Check your electric bill for how much you use... Oh, and I bet for most folks Craig is right, as I say I'd bet we use alot less power than the average consumer. -Curt Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:46:08 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:35:13 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so what size would a person need that would run everything at the same > time like regular line power? If I ever got one I would want it hooked > into the house power with a switch or whatever to connect or disconnect > it. What would be really great would be something that automatically > kicks in if the power goes out. I bet something like that would be > expensive though. Something on the order of 20 - 30 kW. Craig - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com