Re: [MBZ] A puzzler worthy of CarTalk
Jim, another data point in support of your suggestion - when the change in engine tenor happened, I pulled over and took a quick look under the hood for obvious signs. I puled the oil fill cap on the cam cover only for a second and there was tons of blow-by. Hmmm. You might have put your finger on it. ...Kevin On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rod broke off at big end, so no block hole? Heinous blowby on a 617 causes the engine to shut off. (Back-pressuring the vacuum shutoff diaphragm, if I recall.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!
The later year GM 5.7 liter engines were actually pretty good, but GM had trashed the name by then. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay! Here's a beast of a car. New Engine (according to seller) http://tinyurl.com/ynqkcl Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights
Craig McCluskey wrote: No, white LEDs have three diodes, one red, one green, and one blue. Many of them I've seen are internally blue, with a white (phosphor?) coating. My flashlight has a 1W white Luxeon Star emitter, claimed to put out 45 lumens. The phosphor seems to cut efficiency. I have seen household lamps that have multiple emitters blended to approximate white light, but they all seem to lose efficiency to resistors because they don't have enough LEDs to use 120V. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible
Blow off the assumption of 3,000 lbs vehicle weight. My wife's four-door Jetta weighed about half that. And carbon fiber technology can build sturdy vehicles that are MUCH lighter. There are cars on the road now that get 80 - 90 MPG. Not here, our gummint tends to keep them out, but in Europe, Asia and elsewhere, you bet! VW built a prototype two-seater back in 2003 that was roadworthy, traveled at freeway speeds and got well over 200 mpg. They scrapped it, citing limited consumer interest. Lee Fmiser wrote: It seems than at Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:13:19 -0500, Allan wrote: OK, there's a finite amount of energy in a gallon of fuel. Assuming perfect extraction of that energy (which is impossible), and a typical 3000 lb vehicle at 70 MPH on flat ground what is the theoretical maximum MPG you could get? On a flat road, not accelerating, the weight does not matter at all - except that it can have an impact on rolling resistance. The things that require energy are air resistance and rolling resistance. Put steel wheels on a steel rail to make the rolling resistance as small as possible. Air resistance is Cd (coefficient of drag) times the frontal area (silhouette profile as viewed from the front) times the cube of the air speed. Wikipedia has a list of CdA for various cars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficients Cd but not frontal area listed for any MB cars. This site http://www.mayfco.com/mercedes.htm has data on a '77 280E. That's a W123, isn't it? It list the Cd as 0.380 and the frontal area as 23.03 sq-ft (or 2.14 m^2) This site has a formula for calculating the power needed. http://www.bobnorwood.com/300%20mph%C2%A0%20The%20Aerodynamics%20of%20Drag%20and%20Power.htm This site has a couple formula http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/bville%20-%20LSR%20Thoughts-1.html To move the '77 280E at 70 mph (112 km/h) requires aprox 25 hp Just for comparison, one of the best production cars for total air drag is the GM EVI. It requires only 10 hp to travel at 70 mph. (CdA of 3.95 ft^2) Meanwhile, the Hummer H2 (CdA of 26.5 ft^2) needs 65 hp. Okay, on to the fuel. One horsepower equals 2545 Btu per hour Our car needs 25 hp, so 63,625 Btu/hr At 70 mi/hr that becomes 909 Btu/mi Diesel fuel contains 130,500 Btu/gallon So if all of the energy in one gallon of diesel fuel went to moving the car forward at 70 miles per hour, no wind, flat road, constant speed - the 1977 280E would get aprox 145 miles/gallon. Oops. I just put diesel fuel in a gasoline car!! Re-figured with 115,000 Btu/gallon for gasoline its only 127 miles/gallon. I think these claims of hundreds of MPG are either using cars made of balsa wood or moving at 5 MPH, neither of which is reasonable for real-world transportation. I doubt that more than 70 - 80 MPG will ever be achieved in a real-world family car that is crash-safe and moves at normal speeds. But, I've not worked out the physics -- I'm sure someone has, anyone know of a web site that discusses this? I have attached a spreadsheet I just built to play with it. *grin* (I'm trying to avoid doing things I must do) --Philip -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: aerodynamics+fuel.ods Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet Size: 17171 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080227/f8abc169/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Lee If you would be unloved and forgotten, be reasonable. - Kurt Vonnegut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Carbide Cannons and exploding Oldsmobiles
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Re: [MBZ] dinner?
Nope, road kill deer meet would be tainted by all the internal bleeding. Even if very fresh. Pete Man I saw a big fresh deer by the side of the road up there too, could not have been there more than a couple hours, and it was chilly that morning so I know it was well-refrigerated. All-natural, organic, fresh, humanely-killed nice and quick. Man could make some nice andouille and gumbo and jambalaya outta them things! --R Chuck Landenberger wrote: Rich, There's lots of huppum that's inside that chicken or deer or other roadkill that you don't want in your dinner.. That word huppum was coined by my SIL: meaning you don't wanna' know Just my opinion. YMMV Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
*This is a good article from the center of the all bidness. --R Feb. 27, 2008, 5:48AM* Gas prices hit record high U.S. flush with supply, economy is weak, but a speculation-based rally driving costs By many measures, this shouldn't be a record week for oil and gasoline prices. Fuel inventories are at 14-month highs, gasoline demand is down nearly 4 percent from this time last year and the U.S. economy is sluggish. The country is so flush with gasoline it actually exported some to oil-rich Nigeria this month http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/5573488.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A puzzler worthy of CarTalk
I pulled the oil fill cap on the cam cover only for a second and there was tons of blow-by. Easily tested, will it keep running with the cap off? Recall the informal blowby test of a 617: you pull the breather hose off the air cleaner and cork it with your thumb and time how long it takes the engine to die. Short is bad, though long doesn't necessarily mean good. The service manager at the local dealership even did this as a quickie test. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Oh my, why did we not meet durin IowaQ? I LOVE IT. Luther On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:18:59 -0600, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That won't stop albore and his wacko friends. They will just run around saying we caused the global freeze and that we must be taxed and regulated to death before we freeze to death! Bring on the global warming! I have had enough winter! This used to be the tropics. I'm ready for palm trees. Light up your SUV and send some heat this way. (Currently ice, snow and freezing rain, again. Enough already!) Oh! Wait! if we are freezing, we might burn more fossil fuels or cellulosic fuels to stay warm! Wouldn't that cause global warming and keep us warm? Oh! Albore! save us! -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dinner?
Gack --- you guys are real buzz-killers. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope, road kill deer meet would be tainted by all the internal bleeding. Even if very fresh. Pete Man I saw a big fresh deer by the side of the road up there too, could not have been there more than a couple hours, and it was chilly that morning so I know it was well-refrigerated. All-natural, organic, fresh, humanely-killed nice and quick. Man could make some nice andouille and gumbo and jambalaya outta them things! --R Chuck Landenberger wrote: Rich, There's lots of huppum that's inside that chicken or deer or other roadkill that you don't want in your dinner.. That word huppum was coined by my SIL: meaning you don't wanna' know Just my opinion. YMMV Chuck Phoenix AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] BMW 5 series suregrip diff on an MB?
Will a 5 series (80's vintage) BMW sure-grip differential fit any of our cars, particularly my '85 300SD... Friend found one at the PNP and I at least thought it worth asking, although I realize it's not likely. (But, hey, the Reutter oil caps are interchangeable). Thanks, Chris CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT LED Lighting
This is part of an article from USA Today. See all of it at: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2005-04-14-led-lighting_x.htm Harry LEDs have been around since the 60s, but have mostly been relegated to showing the time in an alarm clock or the battery level of a video camera. They haven't been used as sources of illumination because they, for a long time, could not produce white light — only red, green and yellow. Nichia Chemical of Japan changed that in 1993 when it started producing blue LEDs, which combined with red and green produce white light, opening up a whole new field for the technology. And the industry has been quick to exploit it. LEDs are based on semiconductor technology, just like computer processors, and are increasing in brightness, energy efficiency and longevity in a way that's reminiscent of the way each year's new crop of processors is faster and cheaper than last year's. Just this week, researchers at the Lighting Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, N.Y., said they had boosted the light output per watt of a white LED to almost six times that of an incandescent light bulb, beating even a compact fluorescent bulb in efficiency. The current generation of mass-produced white LEDs is not as effective. It's about twice as good as a light bulb of the same wattage, but the energy savings aren't enough to overcome the major drawback of being expensive. It's hard to convince consumers based on energy savings alone, said Nadarajah Narendran, director of lighting research at Rensselaer. If you look at compact fluorescent lamps, they're four times as efficient as incandescent lights, and how many homes have those? It's less than 5% penetration. But development is brisk, and the Department of Energy has estimated that LED lighting could cut national energy consumption for lighting by 29% by 2025. The total savings on U.S. household electric bills until then would be $125 billion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not Quite [OT]
OK so on this website is not yet Mercedes-Benz but I think it should be and I will suggest it. Not old Benzes, but more like a C-class wagon or maybe an ML. http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to do with broken CF lamps
i just go over to the river and, um, y'know On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/02/26/what_to_do_when_compact_fluorescents_crack/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A puzzler worthy of CarTalk
Turn the engine by hand and see how stiff it is, also note any strange noises. There are many possiblities, including bent rods (although that usually causes vastly increased oil consumption very quickly). Trashing a running engine can do all sorts of stuff -- in your case, I suspect a spun bearing (probably #2, the thrust bearing) - it knocked (low frequency sound, deep in the engine, thunk thunk thunk, not a snapping hammer on a nail in oak noise of a bad injector). If the oil pump shaft sheared, you'd have had no oil pressure -- you DO watch that guage, right? Plan on a rebuild or replacement engine, when they won't turn, you will need pistons, sleeves, bearings, and possibly crank and/or rods plus the valve job to make it right. Peter -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 27, 2008 1:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A puzzler worthy of CarTalk Rod broke off at big end, so no block hole? Heinous blowby on a 617 causes the engine to shut off. (Back-pressuring the vacuum shutoff diaphragm, if I recall.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights
I have seen household lamps that have multiple emitters blended to approximate white light, but they all seem to lose efficiency to resistors because they don't have enough LEDs to use 120V. Easily cured by putting a chopper in the design, but maybe they're not quite there yet. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
if it is going to be a money pit, it's not quite a decent deal so many clapped out 400Es out there and i never have figured out why On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:25 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 5 series suregrip diff on an MB?
Not bloody likely, but hey, I've been wondering the same thing about grafting one of the locking diffs from an Audi Quattro, as well. You could theoretically fabricate the mounts, but I doubt the CV and driveline flanges would be adaptable. And then there's the whole thing about comparable final drive ratios...oh well. I can't for the life of me figure out why MB produced so few LSD setups, back in the day. Fools On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a 5 series (80's vintage) BMW sure-grip differential fit any of our cars, particularly my '85 300SD... Friend found one at the PNP and I at least thought it worth asking, although I realize it's not likely. (But, hey, the Reutter oil caps are interchangeable). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
If the E420 in question is also a W124, then I do believe it should have the same suspension bits, though maybe they opted for Sportline stuff in the late-late models--dunno. Price seems a tad high for a car, sans tranny. For whatever reason, the 400's don't seem to hold their value well. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:25 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!
which seems to have been how they did business for many years. who comes up with such a model? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The later year GM 5.7 liter engines were actually pretty good, but GM had trashed the name by then. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay! Here's a beast of a car. New Engine (according to seller) http://tinyurl.com/ynqkcl Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to do with broken CF lamps
Seems a lot of work to change a light bulb. Ed 300E On 27/02/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just go over to the river and, um, y'know On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/02/26/what_to_do_when_compact_fluorescents_crack/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to do with broken CF lamps
Has anyone noticed that the bulbs are manufactured in China (as is so much stuff these days)? Hey, you don't suppose that since we're enemies (on one level or another) they're sending over as much poison as they can in whatever they're sending over anyway? ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible
I didn't find out about the 2004 Super Eagle top speed, but I did find the top speed for the 2001 entry from CSLA. http://www.coe.org/coldfusion/newsnet/jun01/academia.cfm While it is true a 3000 lb car won't get over 1000mpg @ 70 mph, this vehicle went 53 mph and got over 1000 mpg YMMV At 07:15 PM 2/26/2008, you wrote: keely motor? On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, there's a finite amount of energy in a gallon of fuel. Assuming perfect extraction of that energy (which is impossible), and a typical 3000 lb vehicle at 70 MPH on flat ground what is the theoretical maximum MPG you could get? I think these claims of hundreds of MPG are either using cars made of balsa wood or moving at 5 MPH, neither of which is reasonable for real-world transportation. I doubt that more than 70 - 80 MPG will ever be achieved in a real-world family car that is crash-safe and moves at normal speeds. But, I've not worked out the physics -- I'm sure someone has, anyone know of a web site that discusses this? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
You might want to look real real close for any signs of water up around the car about 3ft high. --R John Robbins wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Rich Thomas wrote: You might want to look real real close for any signs of water up around the car about 3ft high. Just 3ft? It was 30ft in some places! ;) John - eye of Katrina went over my parents' house ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not Quite [OT]
Rich Thomas wrote: OK so on this website is not yet Mercedes-Benz but I think it should be and I will suggest it. Not old Benzes, but more like a C-class wagon or maybe an ML. G Class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 5 series suregrip diff on an MB?
Zeitgeist wrote: I can't for the life of me figure out why MB produced so few LSD setups, back in the day. And no Torsens, not even in the 2.3-16v or 500E. Now I'm trying to remember what sort of diff the Evolution I and Evolution II had. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT What to do with broken CF lamps
All part of the global redistribution of waste. For all the waste we cause by having products made offshore, (and I know it's all our fault, nothing to do with their own lack of regulations and quality control), we import a large amount of that waste back into our own country in the way of pet food, children's toys, and other products. Ed 300E On 27/02/2008, Kevin Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone noticed that the bulbs are manufactured in China (as is so much stuff these days)? Hey, you don't suppose that since we're enemies (on one level or another) they're sending over as much poison as they can in whatever they're sending over anyway? ...Kevin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Yeah but then it would have floated further inland and wouldn't be for sale in Gulfport. --R John Robbins wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: You might want to look real real close for any signs of water up around the car about 3ft high. Just 3ft? It was 30ft in some places! ;) John - eye of Katrina went over my parents' house ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 5 series suregrip diff on an MB?
I've been looking around and can't find that info anywhere. Ed 300E On 27/02/2008, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: I can't for the life of me figure out why MB produced so few LSD setups, back in the day. And no Torsens, not even in the 2.3-16v or 500E. Now I'm trying to remember what sort of diff the Evolution I and Evolution II had. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW 5 series suregrip diff on an MB?
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: I can't for the life of me figure out why MB produced so few LSD setups, back in the day. And no Torsens, not even in the 2.3-16v or 500E. Now I'm trying to remember what sort of diff the Evolution I and Evolution II had. Dave M. posted at some point a link to a Japanese (?) site selling non-open diffs of some kind for the 201 and 124. I think they were Torsens and fairly reasonably priced. My experience with used LSDs, whether already in a car or acquired at a PnP or similar, has not been good---after a while they all need to be rebuilt by a specialist for $$$, so you might as well just buy new. Hey, didn't the AMG Hammer come with a Torsen diff? How'd they do it? Yeah, I know, extensive hand-fabbing that wouldn't be worth the time and effort to duplicate... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
they give a url? phone number? what they say, exactly? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Phone number and URL, that's it. Listed along with any MB dealer as Good sources for spares. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they give a url? phone number? what they say, exactly? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
You see the problem is that nobody refers to global warming anymore as that's a misnomer. It's not just the warming that's a problem, is a large scale climate change. Weather patterns are changing and that is what is responsible for things like Katrina and the colder winters in some warm places. Is it ocean currents causing this? Change is water salinaton levels? Who knows...but to use the term global warming is to date oneselfso to speak. Zedic struggling to keep up with all the new data.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
aren't spares used parts? any other vendors? i gotta go get the issue and write a letter of correction. maybe get more free publicity. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone number and URL, that's it. Listed along with any MB dealer as Good sources for spares. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they give a url? phone number? what they say, exactly? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
Gentlemen, Lately I get a burst of hot air from the vents on acceleration from a stop, which corrects itself after a few seconds as the ACC adjusts. Isn't this exactly what the auxiliary water pump under the washer tank is supposed to prevent? I thought the usual failure mode with that part is to freeze up and short out, but I have a fuse installed inline with it per Marshall's recommendation (to protect the ACC switch panel if the pump does short out), and that fuse is not blown. Could it have failed in some other way? How do I test it---take it out of the system, put it in a tank of water, apply 12V and see if it goes? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
spares is what the Brits call partsnew or old. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Spares = replacement parts in general whether new or used as far as I know, but maybe Zedic or some other subject of the Queen will offer a correction, since it's more of a British term. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aren't spares used parts? any other vendors? i gotta go get the issue and write a letter of correction. maybe get more free publicity. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone number and URL, that's it. Listed along with any MB dealer as Good sources for spares. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they give a url? phone number? what they say, exactly? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Can I call 'em or what? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: spares is what the Brits call partsnew or old. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
When the Brits want used spares, they have this quaint termused spares ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
even in lancashire? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the Brits want used spares, they have this quaint termused spares ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Only on Thursdays when it doesn't rain and the missus makes a hotpot. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Ever heard of Noah? Whatever the name, large scale climate change has been going on for eons, and whatever humans do will not stop it. Get over it. Humans are insignificant in the face of nature, or God, whichever way you choose to view it. Where I live has been tropical, arctic and temperate over the long term. All that was without human input. Read the scientific data. The proof is there. At 11:23 AM 2/27/2008, you wrote: You see the problem is that nobody refers to global warming anymore as that's a misnomer. It's not just the warming that's a problem, is a large scale climate change. Weather patterns are changing and that is what is responsible for things like Katrina and the colder winters in some warm places. Is it ocean currents causing this? Change is water salinaton levels? Who knows...but to use the term global warming is to date oneselfso to speak. Zedic struggling to keep up with all the new data.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Alex C. wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). Car and Driver has the Challenger on the cover, too - AND I am in LUST. I think that is a VERY cool car. I like the old MOPAR hot rods and this one is a pretty good retro recreation. I showed it to my wife last night and told her if we win the lottery, it will be one of the cars I want to buy (I need to find a new house with a 10 car garage). The first one would be the E320 Diesel. That way, I can save fuel while driving over to pick up my new Hemi Challenger. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Rich Thomas wrote: You might want to look real real close for any signs of water up around the car about 3ft high. John wrote: Just 3ft? It was 30ft in some places! My parents live in Biloxi (which is next to Gulfport in fact all of the towns blend into each other). They are 6 miles from the beach (but the Bayou is 50 yards from their back door). They got 7 feet of water in their house. The House is 4 feet above the level of the Bayou. I would stay away from any used car purchased from an individual seller. My father's Avalon and my stepmother's Mercedes were completed flooded in the garage. There was not a water line because the water was over the roof of the cars. Here is a little plug for USAA insurance. They sent somebody down who spent 15 minutes in the house. Then they wrote them a check for the full flood coverage including contents. They also had the regular homeowner's coverage which covered damage to the second floor because the chimney on the house collapsed and wind driven rain damaged the second floor. They also had separate car insurance which not only paid them (what I thought was FULL retail value), but they towed the vehicles away the same day. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
I've got a spare tire in my trunk and it's brand new. Ed 300E On 27/02/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aren't spares used parts? any other vendors? i gotta go get the issue and write a letter of correction. maybe get more free publicity. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phone number and URL, that's it. Listed along with any MB dealer as Good sources for spares. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they give a url? phone number? what they say, exactly? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay!
GM, and thay have had a loyal following for many years. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/27/08 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay! which seems to have been how they did business for many years. who comes up with such a model? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The later year GM 5.7 liter engines were actually pretty good, but GM had trashed the name by then. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:48 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillac on Ebay! Here's a beast of a car. New Engine (according to seller) http://tinyurl.com/ynqkcl Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1301 - Release Date: 2/27/2008 8:35 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 100 MPG is it really possible
Blow off the assumption of 3,000 lbs vehicle weight. My wife's four-door Jetta weighed about half that. And carbon fiber technology can build sturdy vehicles that are MUCH lighter. I don't think there has ever been a Jetta much below 2000lbs. this chart of 99-05 models show about 2500-2800: http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/1999-to-2005-volkswagen-golf-jetta-4.htm My brother drag raced his 65 Galaxie which weighed in a 2900 lbs. and newer Accords are close to 4K After a brief search the data I found on MK1 VW's showed a curb weight if about 1800 lbs for a rabbit, the Jetta would be heavier. I would specualte, that 3000 lbs is on the low end for a 4-5 seat car these days, and not an unreasonable starting point for real world mileage target. -- Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Shop lights
It seems than at Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:39:36 -0500, Mitch wrote: I have seen household lamps that have multiple emitters blended to approximate white light, but they all seem to lose efficiency to resistors because they don't have enough LEDs to use 120V. The _right_ way to use LEDs with 120V AC is to use a capacitor as the current limiting device, not a resistor. I don't recall the value, but because it effects the current not the voltage it doesn't matter if there is 1 or a dozen LED being driven. And no heat from a resistor that's wasting 118V. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ( Difference between 400E and E420?) Now Flood Vehicles
Have found this to be a useful tool for checking on flood vehicles. https://www.nicb.org/cps/rde/xchg/SID-4031FE95-41E5DE1B/nicb/hs.xsl/79.htm On 2/27/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: You might want to look real real close for any signs of water up around the car about 3ft high. John wrote: Just 3ft? It was 30ft in some places! My parents live in Biloxi (which is next to Gulfport in fact all of the towns blend into each other). They are 6 miles from the beach (but the Bayou is 50 yards from their back door). They got 7 feet of water in their house. The House is 4 feet above the level of the Bayou. I would stay away from any used car purchased from an individual seller. My father's Avalon and my stepmother's Mercedes were completed flooded in the garage. There was not a water line because the water was over the roof of the cars. Here is a little plug for USAA insurance. They sent somebody down who spent 15 minutes in the house. Then they wrote them a check for the full flood coverage including contents. They also had the regular homeowner's coverage which covered damage to the second floor because the chimney on the house collapsed and wind driven rain damaged the second floor. They also had separate car insurance which not only paid them (what I thought was FULL retail value), but they towed the vehicles away the same day. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What to do with broken CF lamps
Geez Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/02/26/what_to_do_when_compact_fluorescents_crack/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
When is the bubble going to burst? Rich Thomas wrote: *This is a good article from the center of the all bidness. --R Feb. 27, 2008, 5:48AM* Gas prices hit record high U.S. flush with supply, economy is weak, but a speculation-based rally driving costs By many measures, this shouldn't be a record week for oil and gasoline prices. Fuel inventories are at 14-month highs, gasoline demand is down nearly 4 percent from this time last year and the U.S. economy is sluggish. The country is so flush with gasoline it actually exported some to oil-rich Nigeria this month http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/5573488.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
I think because you were too busy doing something else Luther wrote: Oh my, why did we not meet durin IowaQ? I LOVE IT. Luther On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:18:59 -0600, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That won't stop albore and his wacko friends. They will just run around saying we caused the global freeze and that we must be taxed and regulated to death before we freeze to death! Bring on the global warming! I have had enough winter! This used to be the tropics. I'm ready for palm trees. Light up your SUV and send some heat this way. (Currently ice, snow and freezing rain, again. Enough already!) Oh! Wait! if we are freezing, we might burn more fossil fuels or cellulosic fuels to stay warm! Wouldn't that cause global warming and keep us warm? Oh! Albore! save us! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
They are the same except the E420 has the updated front end, and some updated interior stuff. I paid 2k for my 94 E420 with 114k, everything works, no problems, drives like a new car. John Robbins wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Ps, I paid WAY LOW so the price on this one is probably good John Robbins wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
anybody got a scan of this? Alex Chamberlain wrote: Phone number and URL, that's it. Listed along with any MB dealer as Good sources for spares. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they give a url? phone number? what they say, exactly? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). The Collectible Classic feature that they run sometimes is on the W124 500E. Rusty is listed as a good source for parts. Congrats, guys! That kind of publicity has got to be worth something. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When is the bubble going to burst? If Peak Oil holds true, it's not a bubble. Our efforts to destabilize the middle east over the last 5-6 years may have just hastened the inevitable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Interesting article on global cooling: http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27168955 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
i'm very suspicious of this whole thing. for a decade, nobody has any clue that there is a shortage of oil and then suddenly everyone says oh and the cost increases 10 fold?? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When is the bubble going to burst? If Peak Oil holds true, it's not a bubble. Our efforts to destabilize the middle east over the last 5-6 years may have just hastened the inevitable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem
Howdy - Should I clean the swtch with some contact cleaner and put Deoxit on it? IIRC the flasher switch is below the hazard button and is removed by pulling it up from the console - I don't think the console cover needs to come up - right? I'm 99% sure the window switches come up the same way. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem The turnsignals in my 78 240D are only working when they feel like it. Cycle the hazard switch a bunch. It gets dirty. All flashing is done by a single flasher whose output is routed both by this switch and the stalk switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: They are the same except the E420 has the updated front end, and some updated interior stuff. I paid 2k for my 94 E420 with 114k, everything works, no problems, drives like a new car. I can be up there this weekend with 2k for your E420. Might even throw in a little extra for you to fix that idle control module ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Donald Snook wrote: My parents live in Biloxi (which is next to Gulfport in fact all of the towns blend into each other). They are 6 miles from the beach (but the Bayou is 50 yards from their back door). They got 7 feet of water in their house. The House is 4 feet above the level of the Bayou. I would stay away from any used car purchased from an individual seller. My father's Avalon and my stepmother's Mercedes were completed flooded in the garage. There was not a water line because the water was over the roof of the cars. My parents live about 20 miles inland of Bay St. Louis/Waveland (Kiln)... so all they had were a few missing shingles, and insurance took care of that no problem. My former in-laws got 7ft of water in Ocean Springs, and insurance didn't cover a bit of it. Here is a little plug for USAA insurance. They sent somebody down who spent 15 minutes in the house. Then they wrote them a check for the full flood coverage including contents. They also had the regular homeowner's coverage which covered damage to the second floor because the chimney on the house collapsed and wind driven rain damaged the second floor. They also had separate car insurance which not only paid them (what I thought was FULL retail value), but they towed the vehicles away the same day. Wish I was eligible for it!! Sounds like a good company. That is all too rare in insurance companies... Next time you come down and visit your parents let me know, and we can meet up or something. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gary / weight
Gary -sorry if I sent this already, but i'm getting some confusing things from my hand-held emails. A friend had balloned 20 probably 400 lbs. When he was tested and treated for sleep apnea he lost about 175 lbs. Amazing they can be so related. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
i read it, but more everyone else didn't understand it. you are saying that he lost weight after treatment for sleep apnea, as in sleep apnea contributed to weight gain . the readers could not grasp this and wonko said that he was cured of sleep apnea from losing weight, so now only we two know what you are you are saying On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary -sorry if I sent this already, but i'm getting some confusing things from my hand-held emails. A friend had balloned 20 probably 400 lbs. When he was tested and treated for sleep apnea he lost about 175 lbs. Amazing they can be so related. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
yea, thats true Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When is the bubble going to burst? If Peak Oil holds true, it's not a bubble. Our efforts to destabilize the middle east over the last 5-6 years may have just hastened the inevitable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
uh, no I will trade it for your wagon and 2.5turbo though, idle fixed John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: They are the same except the E420 has the updated front end, and some updated interior stuff. I paid 2k for my 94 E420 with 114k, everything works, no problems, drives like a new car. I can be up there this weekend with 2k for your E420. Might even throw in a little extra for you to fix that idle control module ;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420? (update)
Well, the tranny will go in reverse, but not forward. I've never heard of a B2 problem on the W124s, but could I be so lucky? Is a Rusty reman $1800? Seemed that was the magic number for just about all the transmissions he sold. Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, no I will trade it for your wagon and 2.5turbo though, idle fixed You'd have to come get the wagon on a trailer... I still haven't put it back together. And no. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
I've lost about 60 pounds since December, 15% of my gross. Method was a LapBand. I can assure you that over weight is a major contributing factor to sleep apnea. YMMV Pete -- Original message -- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] i read it, but more everyone else didn't understand it. you are saying that he lost weight after treatment for sleep apnea, as in sleep apnea contributed to weight gain . the readers could not grasp this and wonko said that he was cured of sleep apnea from losing weight, so now only we two know what you are you are saying On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Bill R wrote: Gary -sorry if I sent this already, but i'm getting some confusing things from my hand-held emails. A friend had balloned 20 probably 400 lbs. When he was tested and treated for sleep apnea he lost about 175 lbs. Amazing they can be so related. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
thats fine, I have a trailer, I can come get it John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: uh, no I will trade it for your wagon and 2.5turbo though, idle fixed You'd have to come get the wagon on a trailer... I still haven't put it back together. And no. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would You Buy Today?
Hendrik wrote The design philosophy of the autobahn Exactly - the Autobahn is 27 thick - made up of asphalt concrete and is less likely to crack than the US interstates that are not nearly so thick. They also credit the safety with the more lengthy licensing requirements - and more costly at ~$2000. The fatalities per 100 million vehicle miles is .72 for the Autobahn and .84 for US Interstates. It's really an interesting show - they also show all the design features we see everyday - cloverleafs, divided highways, banked curves and miltiple lanes to make passing safer which were developed in ~1913. Of course the people doing the construction didn't find it so exciting - many were laid-off office workers not used to manual labor - and there was very little earth moving equipment available. They built some beautiful bridges though - many built using stone. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would You Buy Today? I am pretty sure I saw that crash on youtube a while back. The design philosophy of the autobahn sort of runs parallel with the MB design philosophy, build it right and then you only have to maintain it. That's the problem I have now, my 300TE yearns for the autobahn and every time I put my foot down it leaps forward in anticipation of going 200K's +. Hendrik with a slow road system LarryT wrote: Speaking of the strength of new MBs - There's a History Channel series called Modern Marvels - one they featured was the Autobahn and naturally they focused on the unlimited speed availability but they *did* say that unlimited speed meant German car companies built safer cars - as proof they had video of a Mercedes SL traveling at a high rate of speed - it lost control spun, bounced off the concrete barrier then rolled several times before comng to a halt - then the driver got out and stumbled up the nearby dirt bank and sat down. IIRC the speed was estimated to be more than 125mph. I have the whole program but haven't figured out how to pull out a segment. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Someone wrote that Democracy will only survive until the population discovers they can elect people who will give them stuff. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Our government only works with an educated, informed, and participating electorate. That's why it's so screwed up now - we have none of the above. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
we know that. bill is arguing that sleep apnea is a major contributing factor to overweight, which is a bit more interesting to examine On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've lost about 60 pounds since December, 15% of my gross. Method was a LapBand. I can assure you that over weight is a major contributing factor to sleep apnea. YMMV Pete -- Original message -- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] i read it, but more everyone else didn't understand it. you are saying that he lost weight after treatment for sleep apnea, as in sleep apnea contributed to weight gain . the readers could not grasp this and wonko said that he was cured of sleep apnea from losing weight, so now only we two know what you are you are saying On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Bill R wrote: Gary -sorry if I sent this already, but i'm getting some confusing things from my hand-held emails. A friend had balloned 20 probably 400 lbs. When he was tested and treated for sleep apnea he lost about 175 lbs. Amazing they can be so related. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our Political System
Jeff wrote:the other curiosity to the US system...term limits. \ Unless I have missed something there are no term limits except for the odd state here and there. It has been debated ad naseum, but like so much other stuff it never gets passed. Yack, yack, yackety, yack - Things that *do* get passed tend to be congressional pay raises which are voted on at 2am when no one is watching. It much be nice to decide when and how much your next raise will be! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our Political System That reminds me of the other curiosity to the US system...term limits. Kind of says from the start that they won't be any good and then hobbles their final term with lame duck status. If you get a good candidate doing a good job, why not let them stay in? It doesn't do harm to other countries. Again though, it relies on a populace that's actually interested in the political process...( or at least willing to vote) And would it be possible to shorten this process?? It goes on for far too long. You guys must get awfully tired of listening to their rhetoric...especially as it changes with the wind so much(as they all seem to do round the world) Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag
Donald wrote if we win the lottery, it will be one of the cars If (when) I win, I plan to buy 2 new Bullit Mustangs - one to store away for 30 years and one to drive. ;-) Wait a minute, in 30 years I'll be 87 - oh well, I'm sure I'll need the money. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] Rusty mentioned in Automobile mag Alex C. wrote: Just got the latest issue of Automobile magazine (new Dodge Challenger on the cover). Car and Driver has the Challenger on the cover, too - AND I am in LUST. I think that is a VERY cool car. I like the old MOPAR hot rods and this one is a pretty good retro recreation. I showed it to my wife last night and told her if we win the lottery, it will be one of the cars I want to buy (I need to find a new house with a 10 car garage). The first one would be the E320 Diesel. That way, I can save fuel while driving over to pick up my new Hemi Challenger. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas prices hit record high
The traders keep blowing bubbles then bursting them, and making money while they do it. So the answer is never. That article says there is no good (or any) reason (based on the usual factors) why oil is $100/bbl and gas shot up $0.30 overnight or in a couple of days. And reserves keep being found that expand the potential supply of the stuff, might cost a bit more to get it, but its there. So, when you figure out the answer, you can become a trader and make millions so you won't ever have to worry or whine or have any sorts of concerns about the price. In the meantime you can buy stock in the oil companies. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When is the bubble going to burst? Rich Thomas wrote: *This is a good article from the center of the all bidness. --R Feb. 27, 2008, 5:48AM* Gas prices hit record high U.S. flush with supply, economy is weak, but a speculation-based rally driving costs By many measures, this shouldn't be a record week for oil and gasoline prices. Fuel inventories are at 14-month highs, gasoline demand is down nearly 4 percent from this time last year and the U.S. economy is sluggish. The country is so flush with gasoline it actually exported some to oil-rich Nigeria this month http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/5573488.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
Being ignorant of the Lap-Band system I Googled it and went to http://www.lap-band.com/lapband/portal.do where they offer a test to determine if people qualify - to my great surprise - at 6'1 and 235 I thought I was grossly overweight (still do) but the calculator says my BMI does not qualify. Humbug! ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight I've lost about 60 pounds since December, 15% of my gross. Method was a LapBand. I can assure you that over weight is a major contributing factor to sleep apnea. YMMV Pete -- Original message -- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] i read it, but more everyone else didn't understand it. you are saying that he lost weight after treatment for sleep apnea, as in sleep apnea contributed to weight gain . the readers could not grasp this and wonko said that he was cured of sleep apnea from losing weight, so now only we two know what you are you are saying On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Bill R wrote: Gary -sorry if I sent this already, but i'm getting some confusing things from my hand-held emails. A friend had balloned 20 probably 400 lbs. When he was tested and treated for sleep apnea he lost about 175 lbs. Amazing they can be so related. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate
Perfect!! Thx Jim! ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: CF lamps - was The eco debate If you get a minute, could you draw a sketch showing the positions? 36' +-+ | = = = | -- Circuit 2 | | | || || || || || || || | | || || || || || || || | 24' |Bay1Bay2 Bay3| | || || || || | | || || || || | +---Door1Door2Door3---+ ^^ ^^ Circuit 1Circuit 3 Bay 1's lights are one circuit, Bay 3's another, and the workbench (and center Bay 2) are the third. Five double-tube fixtures, about 1kW each circuit. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our Political System
LarryT wrote: Unless I have missed something there are no term limits except for the odd state here and there. You can be Senator-for-life (witness Edward Kennedy) but not President-for-life. Amendment 22 (the FDR amendment) put an end to that possibility in 1951. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
Jim wrote only the most important things would get turned into law. Otherwise they're just supposed to leave us alone Boy Howdy, I wish someone would tell the politicians that part about leaving us alone!! ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Fourth, get rid of the Presidential Veto..that is not democracy. The veto is important, it is the means by which the chief executive is supposed to push back legislation that is somehow unenforceable. It, like everything else in the originally rather well-designed system, is now being abused horribly. Our government was deliberately designed to be inefficient, the idea being that only the most important things would get turned into law. Otherwise they're just supposed to leave us alone. No matter how well-crafted the system, however, a lazy and stupid electorate will get exactly the government that they deserve. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
I guess this is why we need that spreadsheet. Anything to watch for with these cars? Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate
The politicians sort of mean well. They want to please people so that they get re-elected. Unfortunately, there are lots of soccer mommies and people like that with the opinion that the government needs to enact all sorts of laws to protect us from ourselves. They tend, for whatever reason, to get heard. The politicans want to appear to be doing something about these percieved problems and so we get new laws. In Canada that included the silly gun registration laws that cost a fortune and did very little good. The bad guys have more unregistered guns than ever. The rest of us are looked upon as criminals if we express any interest in guns. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Jim wrote only the most important things would get turned into law. Otherwise they're just supposed to leave us alone Boy Howdy, I wish someone would tell the politicians that part about leaving us alone!! ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The eco debate Fourth, get rid of the Presidential Veto..that is not democracy. The veto is important, it is the means by which the chief executive is supposed to push back legislation that is somehow unenforceable. It, like everything else in the originally rather well-designed system, is now being abused horribly. Our government was deliberately designed to be inefficient, the idea being that only the most important things would get turned into law. Otherwise they're just supposed to leave us alone. No matter how well-crafted the system, however, a lazy and stupid electorate will get exactly the government that they deserve. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
Most of the original headgaskets need to be replaced by now. Nice cars On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess this is why we need that spreadsheet. Anything to watch for with these cars? Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
I asked if head gasket has been replaced. Waiting for answer. What do y'all think of this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=160212811626_trksid=p2759.l1259 Thanks, Chris Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the original headgaskets need to be replaced by now. Nice cars On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: I guess this is why we need that spreadsheet. Anything to watch for with these cars? Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 370K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: dinner?
So what? I've eaten lots of road kill venison, nothing wrong with it... -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:14:41 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] dinner? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Nope, road kill deer meet would be tainted by all the internal bleeding. Even if very fresh. Pete - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
Anything to watch for with these cars? AC evaporator, motor mounts, serpentine belt tensioner. Here is a link to the buying guide at MBZ.org. It was put together by Dave M. and Marshall. I trust their facts. http://www.mbz.org/articles/buying/checklists/124/ Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: dinner?
Easy burger - comes pre-ground. Had an opportunity for a whole Moose a few years back but we were in the car and wife didn't feel up to lifting her end of the Moose into the trunk. Poor thing must have been hit in the night by a big truck as there was no wrecked car nearby and not a mark on the Moose. It was just lying on the side of the road like it was asleep. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:21 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: dinner? So what? I've eaten lots of road kill venison, nothing wrong with it... -Curt Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:14:41 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] dinner? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Nope, road kill deer meet would be tainted by all the internal bleeding. Even if very fresh. Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
I forgot to add that, in most opinions I have heard, these are the finest Mercedes ever built. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anything to watch for with these cars? AC evaporator, motor mounts, serpentine belt tensioner. You forgot EGR that clogs or sticks open and can't be disabled by hand because the engine computer will detect it and cut turbo boost. The only advantage of the '86-'87 603 cars (besides the obvious extra cylinder's worth of power) is that they are less electronic and thus more easily hotrodded w/ EGR delete, intercoolers, water injection, etc. Somebody w/ embedded systems savvy needs to come up with a hack to mimic the signal from a working EGR, or disassemble the code in question and burn a new ECU that doesn't do the EGR test, or something like that. Same for the 606 engine too. Jim? ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Somebody w/ embedded systems savvy needs to come up with a hack to mimic the signal from a working EGR, or disassemble the code in question and burn a new ECU that doesn't do the EGR test, or something like that. Same for the 606 engine too. Jim? ;) The signal you'd have to hack would be the airflow meter... you'd have to figure out whatever airflow MB wanted based on throttle position, RPM, etc... which would be a royal pain. Dave M. has sourced Garrett parts to replace the vacuum actuated wastegate with a pressure activated one. Says it works perfect. :) Costs about $100. He's waiting for the last round of perfecting things, and then he is going to share his vender's info and PNs. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=212097 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:56 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Somebody w/ embedded systems savvy needs to come up with a hack to mimic the signal from a working EGR, or disassemble the code in question and burn a new ECU that doesn't do the EGR test, or something like that. Same for the 606 engine too. Jim? ;) The signal you'd have to hack would be the airflow meter... you'd have to figure out whatever airflow MB wanted based on throttle position, RPM, etc... which would be a royal pain. Dave M. has sourced Garrett parts to replace the vacuum actuated wastegate with a pressure activated one. Says it works perfect. :) Costs about $100. He's waiting for the last round of perfecting things, and then he is going to share his vender's info and PNs. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=212097 I was unaware of that project. Very cool. Thanks for the link. A 2.5 turbo is now on my shopping list. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
Replace the monovalve (no repair kit for these, you have to swap the whole thing). This fixed that exact problem on mine this week. It will get worse, you will eventually not get enough heat to defrost the windshield! Mine was stuck nearly closed -- no flow until the engine rpms were above 2000 or so, which means on the highway. You should also probably check the resistance of all the temp sensors, as one way out can do strange things, too -- I need to get into the dash and replace the evaporator temps sensor this weekend. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
Inadequate sleep is related to weight gain, ADD symptoms, and narcolepsy. With sleep apnea, one doesn't in fact sleep well at all, even though you don't really wake up completely. You instead have the sleep cycle disrupted several to many times an hour, and don't get any REM sleep to speak of. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1993 300D 2.5 Turbo
Headgasket, as noted. Not known for cracking unless overheated, otherwise the normal W124 stuff -- tie rods and drag link plus steering damper around 200,000 miles, rear suspension links and mounts about the same milage. Broken sunroof lift angles can be expensive, but you may have the new ones in a 93. No wiring problems, that started in 94, although you may find some dead ones. Cracked evaporator cores aren't unknown, and are a deal killer so far as I'm concerned (although I may actually have one -- that would make 2 out of three cars so far). The seals on the compressor go bad, expect to replace the front seal, the manifold o-rings or seal plate, and all the o-rings in the AC system when it blows out. Should have you set for another couple hundred thousand miles then. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference between 400E and E420?
There may be differences in the fuel injection, round about that time MB went from CIS/E to electronic injection. Other than that I am pretty sure it is just a bit of a facelift to squeeze some more life out of an old chassis. Also some things that where optional in the series 2 became standard in the series 3. Some say that the build quality of the E420's was not as good as the earlier ones but that could be an urban myth. Hendrik with a series 1..just Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: They are the same except the E420 has the updated front end, and some updated interior stuff. I paid 2k for my 94 E420 with 114k, everything works, no problems, drives like a new car. John Robbins wrote: Wasn't the 400E supposed to have better suspension, etc? http://gulfport.craigslist.org/car/587957948.html Is that a decent deal? I'm thinking 2k instead of 2800. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
I'd like to know how sleep apnea could contribute to major weight gain. Brian On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we know that. bill is arguing that sleep apnea is a major contributing factor to overweight, which is a bit more interesting to examine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary / weight
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know how sleep apnea could contribute to major weight gain. Brian Sure sounds like somebody got cause and effect backwards, unless I'm missing the point here. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 uneven heat on acceleration
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replace the monovalve (no repair kit for these, you have to swap the whole thing). This fixed that exact problem on mine this week. It will get worse, you will eventually not get enough heat to defrost the windshield! Mine was stuck nearly closed -- no flow until the engine rpms were above 2000 or so, which means on the highway. Thanks, Peter. Yeah, now that I think of it, I never get much hot air at idle regardless of the ACC temp wheel setting. IIRC that's consistent with monovalve failure. Makes sense. I am overdue for a coolant flush, anyway, so I don't mind opening up the system---but is there any way to test the old monovalve before springing for a new one? (I don't have the FSM handy, so for all I know there may be a procedure in there---apologies in advance for not RTFM.) You should also probably check the resistance of all the temp sensors, as one way out can do strange things, too -- I need to get into the dash and replace the evaporator temps sensor this weekend. Did that a couple of years ago, but I suppose they could very well have failed since then. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
