Re: [MBZ] car cover
I have one of the tarp type garages over my boat, and after only 1.5 years, the tarp material is wasting away! It has kept things reasonably dry and protected SO FAR, but it ain't gonna last through another winter. It's 11'X25' and cost me $229.95. I know that this wouldn't be nearly the price I'd have paid for dry storage over the same time period. I'm planning to buy a replacement cover for it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] political quote of the month
The Feds Strong Dollar Policy By: Peter Schiff, Euro Pacific Capital, Inc. Friday, 6 June 2008 Ever since Robert Rubin began the tradition in the mid-1990s, it has been a significant element of the Treasury Secretarys job description to continuously state that a strong dollar is in the national interest. It is widely regarded that such utterances, if repeated often enough, can constitute the sum total of what is still laughingly known as the nations strong dollar policy. Over the past two generations, the American government has launched many failed campaigns. To name just a few, there has been the war on drugs, the war on poverty, and the continued attempts to improve education. But the strong dollar policy must be seen as the poster child for all failed Federal policies. However, many in the market took cheer that the policy is now being greatly expanded. In an unprecedented move, the Fed Chairman is now adding his voice to the chorus and using the same rhetoric previously used by Treasury alone. Thats two people saying the words not just one. A double barrel strong dollar policy! Entire article here: http://news.goldseek.com/EuroCapital/1212774770.php ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Hey Wonko, Bear in mind I do not include Donald in with most other lawyers. Now, having said that .. ... I'm also in Va - I;m sure you've seen all the lawyers advertising on TV and the radio - everything from silly - a lawyer sitting in a little space ship like those we'd ride in as kids for 10 cents - while he made his pitch, to the seemingly sincere We'll work for YOU! Yeah, right. Yeah, heard it all - my business died 20+ years ago and I talked to a lawyer about my finances - he said the bankruptcy laws were the only ones created to *help* people - take advantage of it. Then he said he'd do it for $1500. HA! if I'd had $1500 (up front) I;d be paying my bills! Anyway, handled the paperwork myself using a kit I bought at a office supply store for $40. Filled out everything requested and went to court when requested. Sat next to a lawyer who asked what I was doing - I told him and he thought I was in big trouble! Now I start wondering what I may have done wrong or what the judge might decide. As I sweated out waiting for my time to come I kept hearing that lawyer telling me I was dumb it was to do this without a lawyer... I was last since a business was involved - and things could not have gone smoother! The judge complimented me on the apparent completeness of the paperwork - this after dealing with a dozen lawyers who he constantly berated for appearing ill prepared. ;-) And, I saved $1500. I truly think I could do para-legal work if I were to go to school - but the lawyers make the laws and things are difficult to break into because of the barriers set up. The lawyers in the legislature protect the lawyers in private practice. Also, the ABA contribute a lot of money to political campaigns to keep things going their way - true, like other groups - but with lawyers in power it's not the same. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on I lost all respect (sorry, Donald) for attorneys when I saw my attorney and my ex's attorney sitting at a cafeteria table and laughing it up over cups of coffee during a recess of my divorce proceedings. They weren't protecting anyone's interests -- they were simply parroting what was already laid out in Virginia code (i.e., property settlement) and were probably comparing billable hours. They had no more concern about assisting either of us than you will have about getting up tomorrow morning and taking a leak. It was pure assembly line, with everyone having his hands in the back pockets of those they were supposed to be representing. The only reason they exist is because they are allowed to appear before the Court, where you and I aren't (unless we are in criminal court and decide to represent ourselves). The only advice my ex's attorney gave her was to try to provoke me into assaulting her (she tried but I as able to side-step everything -- which is maybe why I do what I do for a living now, natural instincts when working with out-of-control individuals). The only advice my attorney gave me was to throw my wife and children out onto the street, force sale the house and split the profits. (I refused, saying that she could just have the house for the sake of the two kids -- they had gone through enough trauma already without suddenly being homeless.) On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or Q-why are divorce attorneys so expensive? A-Because IT'S WORTH IT! -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
You might consider the metal carports - they come in all colors and run from $495-$795. Be sure to shop around. They last a long time and are very handy - even it not raining the keep leaves, pinestraw and birdcrap off the car. You can keep the car cover on for added protection. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] car cover What is a good car cover that will keep water from reaching the car? I bought one at walmart that said it was water proof, and we had a hell of a rain all day today, I get home and see I still am getting water leaking into the car. This is an old car which of course leaks water. Covered it up to keep the water out. I guess maybe my next step is to buy one of them portable garage things that is basically a frame and tarp material on the top and sides. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
It may be too late for this, but Classic Car on SPeed has a new product segment - they talked about Barr's Head Gasket Repair. I've used Barr's radiator seal with excellent results. Don't know how a head gasket repair might work but Barr's other products seem to work well. It's probably available at your FLAPS Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket With the help of Luther's magic pin pulling tool, we got the head off today. you can see from the photos (if Kaleb approves them), that the head and block look good. It was very oily between #1 and the chain vault. Both sides of the gasket were wet and so were the head and block. There is one photo of #3 or 4 cyl gasket area for reference. I'd wiped the oil off the head and block before I took the photos, so those are the cleaner areas in the photos. Although we haven't cleaned the head for re-assembly, I don't see any cracking anywhere. I also don't see signs of the head being brnt or eroded from combustion gases - which I did expect to see. The PO (Richard) drove it this way for a couple of years! It doesn't look very carboned up to me, though it's been a LONG time since I've seen a Diesel head off an engine. I see from the EPC that there have been several versions of this head gasket over the years, adding extra sealing aroung coolant and oil ports, etc. What are the current thoughts about gasket sealants on head gaskets? This one did not have any on it, though it's probably original with 200k miles.. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 block.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 95802 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 cylinder one.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 85576 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head cyl 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 74092 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 72627 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom cu 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 79258 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket cyl 3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 78717 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0005.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
The best car cover I ever owned (after buying several $30 $40 covers from Walmart) was one I bought at the Porsche dealer for my 911. It cost ~$150 although I go it on sale for ~$125 - that was ~10 years ago and they're over $200 now. MB Dealers sell excellent car covers that will keep the water off while still breathing. Also, http://www.calcarcover.com/cover_find.aspx has a excellent selection. The material you need to look for is made by Kimberly-Clarke and the latest name it goes by is Noah - unfortunately when it comes to car covers (like many other things) you get what you pay for. Also, you can choose different covers for diffferent purposes - indoor, outdoor, soft so paint cannot be scratched, breathable, waterproof, dustcover, etc. Start at the Ca Car Cover Co and you'll see what's available. I suspect the MB website has some also. Good luck selecting - you've got *lots* of choices! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] car cover Is there some cover that keeps water out, but will still breath? Im thinking Im going to buy a few of those cheap tarp garage things next time they go on sale at HF. Also my try putting a small tarp on the car over the front and rear windows but under the car cover, that might keep water from flowing over the leaking window gaskets Mitch Haley wrote: If the cover can't breathe, it turns into a sauna/rust chamber underneath. If it breathes, it's probably not waterproof. A carport is a superior solution, but it costs more than any cover. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security So, you are saying that your team will not bother to vote? If so, cool. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. This bumper sticker sums up the feelings of a lot of Republicans: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
I use Covercraft covers with the Evolution 4 material here in Phoenix. They have an elastic in the perimeter which lasts about 2 years and the covers last about 4. They are designed to let moisture out, but not in and the inner liner is very soft and does not seem to scratch the paint, tho no cover should be put on a dirty car. I highly recommend a water proof ground tarp under the car as moisture coming up out of the ground, or concrete, will cause surface rust on the frame, etc. Wolf also uses Evolution 4 in their better covers but I have not had one for years. You can often pick up a cover on Ebay for less than half the selling price which is about $160 at Checker. _Wolf Universal Fit Car Cover, For Cars 16'- 1 to 17'_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/Wolf-Universal-Fit-Car-Cover-For-Cars-16-1-to-17_W0QQitemZ280233107613QQihZ018 QQcategoryZ50073QQcmdZViewItem)this one is $90. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
LarryT wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- That was how I interpreted the bumper sticker - Vote for McLame, he's less awful than the other Dems. I still like this one from last winter when the nomination was up for grabs, but IMO the last picture could just have easily been a neocon like GWB or Chris Matthews instead: http://www.rogueriver.tzo.com/blogginon/media/20080202_breen.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
Around here after a good heavy snow like in late fall or early spring they tend to fall down... A friend has a big dent in the roof of his Camaro from his. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:34:03 -0700 From: Kevin lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] car cover To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Those tarp garage things are quite effective, but even staked down, if you get high winds, it could cause problems. On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:14:16PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: gt; What is a good car cover that will keep water from reaching the car?nbsp; I gt; bought one at walmart that said it was water proof, and we had a hell of gt; a rain all day today, I get home and see I still am getting water gt; leaking into the car.nbsp; This is an old car which of course leaks water. gt; Covered it up to keep the water out.nbsp; I guess maybe my next step is to gt; buy one of them portable garage things that is basically a frame and gt; tarp material on the top and sides. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350 3.454 3.511 080211 3.280 3.324 3.542 3.412 3.266 3.249 3.239 3.264 3.347 3.393 080204 3.280 3.338 3.566 3.438 3.275 3.243 3.247 3.260 3.325 3.377 080128 3.259 3.327 3.583 3.432 3.258 3.218 3.218 3.236 3.301 3.346 080121 3.270 3.343 3.594 3.472 3.264 3.228 3.222 3.229 3.327 3.360 080114 3.326 3.391 3.621 3.510 3.318 3.288 3.266 3.261 3.420 3.459 080107 3.376 3.436 3.644 3.554 3.366 3.345 3.318 3.276 3.474 3.526 071231 3.345 3.399 3.600 3.519 3.328 3.309 3.293 3.269 3.451 3.491 071224 3.308 3.356 3.584 3.497 3.275 3.277 3.246 3.268 3.411 3.434 071217 3.309 3.359 3.581 3.511 3.273 3.271 3.245 3.319 3.415 3.426 071210 3.325 3.372 3.570 3.514 3.293 3.276 3.265 3.397 3.440 3.455 071203 3.416 3.444 3.595 3.570 3.376 3.385 3.345 3.487 3.532 3.567 071126 3.444 3.453 3.590 3.574 3.389 3.423 3.360 3.527 3.587 3.620 071119 3.410 3.407 3.488 3.524 3.350 3.389 3.324 3.507 3.586 3.624 071112 3.425 3.415 3.484 3.523 3.362 3.403 3.347 3.532 3.608 3.663 071105 3.303 3.290 3.375 3.381 3.244 3.278 3.219 3.411 3.508 3.524 071029 3.157 3.148 3.250 3.251 3.095 3.122 3.062 3.281 3.394 3.406 071022 3.094 3.078 3.182 3.186 3.022 3.067 2.994 3.229 3.323 3.338 071015 3.039 3.023 3.122 3.125 2.970 3.025 2.941 3.169 3.229 3.249 071008 3.035 3.031 3.123 3.137 2.977 3.028 2.946 3.139 3.167 3.197 071001 3.048 3.052 3.117 3.141 3.008 3.061 2.975 3.100 3.090 3.143 070924 3.032 3.037 3.100 3.124 2.993 3.054 2.971 3.028 3.054 3.093 070917 2.964 2.961 3.025 3.054 2.916 2.984 2.903 2.972 2.998 3.023 070910 2.924 2.912 2.968 2.991 2.872 2.942 2.865 2.955 2.982 2.995 070903 2.893 2.867 2.915 2.934 2.835 2.910 2.836 2.939 2.972 2.985 070827 2.863 2.834 2.906 2.898 2.800 2.870 2.808 2.947 2.965
[MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Lt Don wrote: I lost all respect (sorry, Donald) for attorneys when I saw my attorney and my ex's attorney sitting at a cafeteria table and laughing it up over cups of coffee . . . That means you should (at most) lose respect for divorce attorneys and (at least) lose respect for these two specific attorneys. I have never done domestic law, nor will I ever. I don't want to charge someone hundreds of dollars an hour, just so they can argue over who gets the toaster. My wife and I will be married for 10 years in September (first marriage for both of us). My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Lucky for me, I am a light sleeper. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Lawyers was re: Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Larry wrote: Bear in mind I do not include Donald in with most other lawyers. Now, having said that .. ... I'm also in Va - I;m sure you've seen all the lawyers advertising on TV and the radio - everything from silly - a lawyer sitting in a little space ship like those we'd ride in as kids for 10 cents - while he made his pitch, to the seemingly sincere We'll work for YOU! Yeah, right. I think you may have figured out how to judge a good attorney. Here it is, are you ready? Good highly sought after lawyers DO NOT advertise. Like anything else there are exceptions to this rule. There are a few good plaintiff's attorneys who advertise, but for the most part (in my opinion), if you need to advertise you are developing your clients well and you are getting the word of mouth necessary to sustain a good law practice. My firm is over 103 years old. For the last 60-70 years we have averaged 15-18 attorneys on the roll. We stay very busy and in 100 years, we have not advertised. We do have a website (I don't know if I would consider that advertising). Here is the website if anyone is interested. (I wonder if this constitutes advertising - I may have just broken 103 years of tradition. http://www.mtsqh.com/ Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Larry wrote: I truly think I could do para-legal work if I were to go to school - but the lawyers make the laws and things are difficult to break into because of the barriers set up. The lawyers in the legislature protect the lawyers in private practice. Also, the ABA contribute a lot of money to political campaigns to keep things going their way - true, like other groups - but with lawyers in power it's not the same. Larry you could do para-legal work. It requires limited training, no special degree, attention to detail, and methodical thinking. Para-legals are not licensed, so you there are not legal barriers preventing you from being a paralegal. I don't like my paralegal. Want a job? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voterfranchise on
Donald Snook wrote: I don't like my paralegal. Want a job? Does your firm have a strong tuition benefits package? I'm beginning to think I want a JD, and I want somebody else to pay for it. I think 42 USC §1983 is going to be a major growth industry as government expands the war on every peon we can demonize. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Hmm, I thought that was what most voters period did. I can't remember the last president I voted _for_, since it's usually a vote _against_ the worst idiot in my case. And that's a sad state. What foreign wag was it that said 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving adventures
I should get points for all my roadside assistance calls. I know both techs by their first names, have their cell phones numbers, and always give them tomato seedlings for their gardens. On Sunday I met the Nigerian tech's adorable kids when he got called in to replace a toasted battery on the 300CD. The battery was 8 years old but had given zero warning signs. I started the car in the carport, then drove around the alley to the front of the house and turned it off. We loaded the luggage, and then when I tried to restart the car (5 minutes had passed) all power failed - not even the dome light was lit!! I had never seen a battery quit so suddenly, but the tech told me the same thing had happened to him in a customer's driveway. It was embarrassing - he fixed the customer's problem, but then they couldn't get out because he was blocking them while he replaced his own battery! 1983 300TD (three) 1985 300CD (hers) On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WWM has always had a good reputation as long as I've known them. The week I got out of trade school I interviewed at WWM in Indianapolis. I still remember the service manager taking me on a tour of their shop - I was probably drooling at the surgical cleanliness of it. I was all ready to sign on until he told me it was a flat rate shop and that I would probably be doing warranty work for the first year or two (forget that - you can't make a living doing warranty work in a flat rate shop!) So I left and took a job with a generator company. And the rest is history. Dan Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I called my mechanic friend, who had me call Worldwide Auto (the Indianapolis dealer), who, after some begging and mentioning that I had my 84 year old mother with me, got me in and replaced the flex disk by closing time. I'd have been better off to call the emergency number, I'll do that in the future, as I wouldn't have had to pay $85 for a tow, but all is well. $308 and some change for the repair, not too bad for getting the car running again, although it did mean I didn't get to Detroit until 11:30 pm instead of 5 pm as the original plan, but hey. Only charged me $76 for the flex disk, so I'll happily pay the $210 in labor, which is probably excessive, but they did take care of me. Nice shop, told me I needed to replace the ball joints and the sway bar bushings, so they checked it out pretty well, I cannot complain. They would have replaced the ball joints too, except there wasn't time. Not all dealers are pirates, I guess -- this is a vastly better experience than I've had at my home dealer --- I'd not take a dead dog to them to bury, they'd screw that up too! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Lucky for me, I am a light sleeper. Jill commented yesterday, as we watched some stupid crime show, that she didn't want me to shoot her in the head. I told her that my master plan was actually to annoy her to death. Slowly. I suspect that is her master plan as well, so in time we shall see who succeeds. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving adventures
It was embarrassing - he fixed the customer's problem, but then they couldn't get out because he was blocking them while he replaced his own battery! At least he still had a spare battery to swap! Umm, can I have that back for a minute? Then I'll get out of your way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motor mounts
Don't they all have subframe mounts as well? On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay well, this is part of why I have this car, to learn some new wrenching... So how many mounts, just 2? Worldpac hates me this morning and won't load... These would have been replaced u 5 years ago when I first bought the car, maybe 60,000 miles? Does that seem reasonable? In the last 2 years the car has sat alot. -Curt Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hammie exhaust To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Engine mounts on nearly all MB chassis are a piece of cake. I got so good at doing 123 mounts I had it down to about 30 minutes a side, and most of that was setup and tear down. Just be sure to get a hex driver that goes on a 1/2 drive ratchet to break the bolt loose. And snap it, don't just twist. Dan --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it will be a big job for you, if it's not one for him. Engine mounts are loosen bolts, rlift enough to take weight off, remove bolts, remove old mounts. insert new mounts, start bolts, let the engine down, tighten bolts. - do one side at a time. I find exhaust systems to be more work than changing engine mounts! Did you get the photos I sent? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving adventures
The battery was 8 years old but had given zero warning signs. I've been wondering how long the battery in the beater woods truck will last. It wasn't new when I got the truck, back in 95 or so, and I don't ever remember changing it. What's there is still the same ill-fitting battery so far as I can tell. (The real reason I keep the online logs now.) The truck doesn't get used a lot, but it _is_ used. There's a 5W solar charging panel on its dashboard, I suspect that may have a lot to do with its life. Now that I've written this, it's probably died. I'll find out next time I go to move it, I guess. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Peter, re, floor vent flap link not in manual, isn't that what they're talking about and showing in drawing at bottom of page 4 of job 83-554 in the MB service CD? Pull rt side out slightly and unclip joint for leg room flap (arrow). Or is there another one in there somewhere to bite me? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Hmm, I thought that was what most voters period did. I can't remember the last president I voted _for_, since it's usually a vote _against_ the worst idiot in my case. And that's a sad state. What foreign wag was it that said 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Yeah, but my point is you must remove the pin BEFORE you take the side boxes off, or you will surely break the hinge The manual is wrong here, even though it's a pain to get the pin out through the flap opening. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Sounds like you have a great marriage. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Lucky for me, I am a light sleeper. Jill commented yesterday, as we watched some stupid crime show, that she didn't want me to shoot her in the head. I told her that my master plan was actually to annoy her to death. Slowly. I suspect that is her master plan as well, so in time we shall see who succeeds. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
In what way? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Hmm, I thought that was what most voters period did. I can't remember the last president I voted _for_, since it's usually a vote _against_ the worst idiot in my case. And that's a sad state. What foreign wag was it that said 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car cover
When I ran out of garage space, I bought a 12'x20' car storage structure/shelter made of reasonably heavy metal frame-work and heavy plastic cover and screw into the ground anchors. Zipper doors on each end. I placed a treated wood floor of 2x6's over a couple of layers of plastic onto the dirt earth. That discourages bugs and moisture. I built it behind my permanent garage and inside a 6' fence. Very little storm danger. More worry about falling branches, however. I ran 110-120 volts out there for lights and tools. I placed the floor to end outside of the plastic cover. Maybe 3 outside the plastic. The first morning out there I found the inside of the ceiling-roof covered with moisture which dripped down onto the car. In New England you have big fluctuations of temperature and relative humidity. I bought a 6 110-120 volt ac fan and built it into the plastic wall structure to expel the shelter air. The fan has been running around the clock for a number of years and keeps moisture from condensing on the car etc. It helps keep the car's metal temperature the same as the air temperature resulting in no condensation. Works great except, over a period of weeks or months, you can see on the surface of a waxed clean car, a film of New England pollution or film of something or other. When my cover wears out I will just buy another. For me it was a good investment. I would advise buying one of good quality and not a cheap one since there are a number of manufacturers on the market now. Burt Anderson Car Nut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
Absolutely NO sealants, treatments, or other goo on the head gasket. There are rings of anaerobic setting sealant around the coolant and oil passages, and a viton o-ring for the oil return at the rear (the usual leak spot). Gasket shellac, sealant, or any other coating, especially on the stainless steel compression seal, is only going to cause the gasket to leak when it erodes unevenly during service. These gaskets cannot be repaired -- when they loose their elasticity, they leak, and it cannot be restored. Allow the engine to warm to operating temperature and cool off again before installing the pressure cap, as it can leak coolant around those seals until they have heat set. Critical on the M103, a good idea with the diesel. Peter -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jun 10, 2008 8:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket It may be too late for this, but Classic Car on SPeed has a new product segment - they talked about Barr's Head Gasket Repair. I've used Barr's radiator seal with excellent results. Don't know how a head gasket repair might work but Barr's other products seem to work well. It's probably available at your FLAPS Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket With the help of Luther's magic pin pulling tool, we got the head off today. you can see from the photos (if Kaleb approves them), that the head and block look good. It was very oily between #1 and the chain vault. Both sides of the gasket were wet and so were the head and block. There is one photo of #3 or 4 cyl gasket area for reference. I'd wiped the oil off the head and block before I took the photos, so those are the cleaner areas in the photos. Although we haven't cleaned the head for re-assembly, I don't see any cracking anywhere. I also don't see signs of the head being brnt or eroded from combustion gases - which I did expect to see. The PO (Richard) drove it this way for a couple of years! It doesn't look very carboned up to me, though it's been a LONG time since I've seen a Diesel head off an engine. I see from the EPC that there have been several versions of this head gasket over the years, adding extra sealing aroung coolant and oil ports, etc. What are the current thoughts about gasket sealants on head gaskets? This one did not have any on it, though it's probably original with 200k miles.. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 block.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 95802 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 cylinder one.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 85576 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head cyl 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 74092 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 72627 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom cu 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 79258 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket cyl 3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 78717 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0005.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lt Don wrote: I lost all respect (sorry, Donald) for attorneys when I saw my attorney and my ex's attorney sitting at a cafeteria table and laughing it up over cups of coffee . . . That means you should (at most) lose respect for divorce attorneys and (at least) lose respect for these two specific attorneys. I have never done domestic law, nor will I ever. I don't want to charge someone hundreds of dollars an hour, just so they can argue over who gets the toaster. My wife and I will be married for 10 years in September (first marriage for both of us). My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Lucky for me, I am a light sleeper. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hmmm, interesting craigslist ad
Not if I can help it; he is the very personification of that word... I value succinctness, perhaps to an obsessive degree. I myself try to be succinct but I am no Chuck Landenberger... On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew... Hmmm... Bloviate is not a word normally used in one's everyday vernacular... Are you watching O'Reilly on the side?? Just an inquiring mind... Chuck On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:19 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Beware of bloviators flogging low mileage Mercedes diesels. This is a very toxic combination. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Wife and I are locked in the annoy the other to death contest. I'm sure that one will win, eventually. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:52 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce Jim wrote: Jill commented yesterday, as we watched some stupid crime show, that she didn't want me to shoot her in the head. I told her that my master plan was actually to annoy her to death. Slowly. I suspect that is her master plan as well, so in time we shall see who succeeds. I am sure Jill will outlive you. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms ofvoter franchise on
andrew strasfogel wrote: You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control There exists a good argument for citizen disarmament? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
They love him - he's a rock star. Hadn't you noticed? ;) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:36 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what way? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Hmm, I thought that was what most voters period did. I can't remember the last president I voted _for_, since it's usually a vote _against_ the worst idiot in my case. And that's a sad state. What foreign wag was it that said 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.2.0/1493 - Release Date: 6/9/2008 5:25 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
I am sure Jill will outlive you. I'm not. She gets much more annoyed than I do, and holds on to it a lot longer. So I have an edge! (Which may not compensate for the other factors working in her favor.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Andrew wrote: Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. To quote Colonel Potter from Mash, Horse Hockey Do you think Nixon was popular when he had the Kitchen Debates with Khrushchev? Do you think Reagan was popular with Soviets? Do you think President Bush is very popular in Libya? (did anyone else notice after the Irag War started, Khadafi, just handed over his nuclear weapon plans, and all material associated with it and went quietly back to his palace. I read a very small story several months ago. It was buried on page 10. It was three paragraphs long. The US and North Korea reached a deal on Nuclear weapons. I guess if Bush really is hated (which I think overstates the truth) around the world, I wonder how he got Libya and North Korea to back down. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car cover
Most important question - what car are you protecting that is worth all the effort?? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Burt Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I ran out of garage space, I bought a 12'x20' car storage structure/shelter made of reasonably heavy metal frame-work and heavy plastic cover and screw into the ground anchors. Zipper doors on each end. I placed a treated wood floor of 2x6's over a couple of layers of plastic onto the dirt earth. That discourages bugs and moisture. I built it behind my permanent garage and inside a 6' fence. Very little storm danger. More worry about falling branches, however. I ran 110-120 volts out there for lights and tools. I placed the floor to end outside of the plastic cover. Maybe 3 outside the plastic. The first morning out there I found the inside of the ceiling-roof covered with moisture which dripped down onto the car. In New England you have big fluctuations of temperature and relative humidity. I bought a 6 110-120 volt ac fan and built it into the plastic wall structure to expel the shelter air. The fan has been running around the clock for a number of years and keeps moisture from condensing on the car etc. It helps keep the car's metal temperature the same as the air temperature resulting in no condensation. Works great except, over a period of weeks or months, you can see on the surface of a waxed clean car, a film of New England pollution or film of something or other. When my cover wears out I will just buy another. For me it was a good investment. I would advise buying one of good quality and not a cheap one since there are a number of manufacturers on the market now. Burt Anderson Car Nut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Hmm. _I_ didn't think 'gun' when I read the original. And I even own several. Wonder what the pshrinks would think of all this? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Jim wrote: Jill commented yesterday, as we watched some stupid crime show, that she didn't want me to shoot her in the head. I told her that my master plan was actually to annoy her to death. Slowly. I suspect that is her master plan as well, so in time we shall see who succeeds. I am sure Jill will outlive you. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Mitch wrote: Does your firm have a strong tuition benefits package? I'm beginning to think I want a JD, and I want somebody else to pay for it. No. We have no tuition benefits package. If you want a JD, you should get one. There are not many employers who are going to pay that cost - except maybe the military. I am sure there are a few huge companies that would have tuition reimbursement programs, but I don't think a good law school education can be done part time. If you really want a JD, do what I did: Give up a good job as a service manager at a large dealership, tell your wife it is going to be okay, cut ALL expenses dramatically, beg, borrow, steal, apply for every scholarship known to man, study hard for the LSAT so you can get merit based scholarships and go to law school. You will have to treat it like a full time job and work very hard. If you do and graduate high in your class you will have a guaranteed job, a JD, and a mountain of debt. But, it will all be worth it. I was 28 when I started law school. 27 was the median age. But, I had a lot of classmates in their 30-40's. Several others were in their 50-60's. I had one classmate that was 64. He didn't make all three years. For most people, it is not too late to go back to school if that is what you want to do. Section 1983 has been around since reconstruction. There may be more cases filed under it, but I doubt there are more successful cases than before. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
I guess I should have said he COULD trade on his popularity to achieve strategic objectives. It won't be automatic. So would you feel better if our president cause riots whenever he traveled overseas? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote: Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. To quote Colonel Potter from Mash, Horse Hockey Do you think Nixon was popular when he had the Kitchen Debates with Khrushchev? Do you think Reagan was popular with Soviets? Do you think President Bush is very popular in Libya? (did anyone else notice after the Irag War started, Khadafi, just handed over his nuclear weapon plans, and all material associated with it and went quietly back to his palace. I read a very small story several months ago. It was buried on page 10. It was three paragraphs long. The US and North Korea reached a deal on Nuclear weapons. I guess if Bush really is hated (which I think overstates the truth) around the world, I wonder how he got Libya and North Korea to back down. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
It must be his vast knowledge, capabilities, and experience in national politics and international affairs that has them all a-twitter! --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Hmm, I thought that was what most voters period did. I can't remember the last president I voted _for_, since it's usually a vote _against_ the worst idiot in my case. And that's a sad state. What foreign wag was it that said 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Andrew wrote: Sounds like you have a great marriage. I am not sure if you are referring to me or to Jim. BUT, I will share with you the secret to a happy marriage. No kidding this is really it. I got this from my father-in-law. I am laying out some serious wisdom here, so pay attention! The Secret to a Happy Marriage is found by understanding the SHIT theory. (My father in law is a Baptist Preacher, and he used the word Shit, so I will, too) Stage 1: When you are first dating and even first married, everything is wonderful. Everything your partner does is cute and funny and you eat all their shit with a spoon. You can't get enough. It is a wonderful time, you are in love. Not only do you not care that you are eating their shit, you love it. Stage 2. You are still eating your partner's shit, but now you know you are eating their shit. You don't really like it anymore. All those things that you used to think were so cute and endearing are now annoying you. They are driving you crazy. You keep eating the shit and forcing a smile on your face. The longer you are in stage 2, the worse it is. The more likely you are in a dying marriage. You grow bitter with each day. One day, you will wake up and tell your partner, that you don't want to eat their shit anymore. You don't like it and you have had enough. Stage 3. You don't eat any shit here. You tell your partner so. You are both happy and can communicate honestly. There is magic back in the relationship. The secret is to get through stage 2 as quickly as possible. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
Larry, Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this. I firmly believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create byproducts not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines. Do you have any test results that you can share? I often challenge VO advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has stepped up. /s/ Max Dillon, digest lurker '87 300TD 309k miles Charleston, SC Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6169 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080610/1242517a/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hmmm, interesting craigslist ad
Hi Andrew Imitation is the highest form of flattery. Keep trying! Thank you and take care, Chuck On Jun 10, 2008, at 7:22 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I myself try to be succinct but I am no Chuck Landenberger... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Larry, Here in WA you can sort of read in to become a lawyer. Only good here though. You apprentice to a school taught lawyer and take the bar exam, then you get to be one of the slimy fish. No chance of reciprocity in other states, but good enough for doing country lawyer work. As for paralegal, just hit the local junior college and two years later, you are doing all sorts of legal things with that AA degree. -- clay On 10 Jun 2008, at 05:06, LarryT wrote: I truly think I could do para-legal work if I were to go to school - but the lawyers make the laws and things are difficult to break into because of the barriers set up. The lawyers in the legislature protect the lawyers in private practice. Also, the ABA contribute a lot of money to political campaigns to keep things going their way - true, like other groups - but with lawyers in power it's not the same. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving adventures
Andrew, To be succinct, what's the point of including: the Nigerian tech? Did you also ask if he was American? Just an inquiring mind. Take care, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
more evidence that there is no such thing as free, especially not when it comes to fuel On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this. I firmly believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create byproducts not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines. Do you have any test results that you can share? I often challenge VO advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has stepped up. /s/ Max Dillon, digest lurker '87 300TD 309k miles Charleston, SC Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6169 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080610/1242517a/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing. Perhaps the Lab has tested some? I'll chec I'm just guessing, but I know some people using alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money on oil analysis is valid. I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share. Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but I would think some of those engines are failing. Perhaps that's being blamed on age or something else? What do ya'll think? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Dillon,Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution Larry, Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this. I firmly believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create byproducts not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines. Do you have any test results that you can share? I often challenge VO advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has stepped up. /s/ Max Dillon, digest lurker '87 300TD 309k miles Charleston, SC Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6169 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080610/1242517a/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Jim wrote my master plan was actually to annoy her to death. Slowly. Unfortunately, being masters at annoyance she's sure to outlast you. ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce Jim wrote: Jill commented yesterday, as we watched some stupid crime show, that she didn't want me to shoot her in the head. I told her that my master plan was actually to annoy her to death. Slowly. I suspect that is her master plan as well, so in time we shall see who succeeds. I am sure Jill will outlive you. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
Sounds like VERY good advice - and I've not read/heard this elsewhere. Thanks! Allow the engine to warm to operating temperature and cool off again before installing the pressure cap, as it can leak coolant around those seals until they have heat set. Critical on the M103, a good idea with the diesel. Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
i think it requires some testing. i'd run my old wagon as a test vehicle, but i'd have to clean the tank first. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing. Perhaps the Lab has tested some? I'll chec I'm just guessing, but I know some people using alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money on oil analysis is valid. I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share. Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but I would think some of those engines are failing. Perhaps that's being blamed on age or something else? What do ya'll think? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Dillon,Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution Larry, Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this. I firmly believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create byproducts not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines. Do you have any test results that you can share? I often challenge VO advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has stepped up. /s/ Max Dillon, digest lurker '87 300TD 309k miles Charleston, SC Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6169 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080610/1242517a/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
I doubt that she would use a gun - too loud, someone would hear it. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:27 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms ofvoter franchise on
You seem to believe a gun owner will always resort to shooting someone when things don;t go well! Just because you have a shoe handy doesn't mean you will rip it off your foot and beat someone to death just because they cut in line ahead of you does it? You're applying the same logic to gun owners! Perhaps if you feel gun owners are ready to snap any monent that means *you* are ready to snap at the slightest upset? Maybe someone should visit your home and consficate all knives, hammers, screwdrivers, 2x4's - and anything else that might possibly be used as a weapon? Sheesh!! Larry T - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms ofvoter franchise on You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lt Don wrote: I lost all respect (sorry, Donald) for attorneys when I saw my attorney and my ex's attorney sitting at a cafeteria table and laughing it up over cups of coffee . . . That means you should (at most) lose respect for divorce attorneys and (at least) lose respect for these two specific attorneys. I have never done domestic law, nor will I ever. I don't want to charge someone hundreds of dollars an hour, just so they can argue over who gets the toaster. My wife and I will be married for 10 years in September (first marriage for both of us). My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Lucky for me, I am a light sleeper. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Donald asked (rhetotically) I wonder how he got Libya and North Korea to back down. Just a guess, but I bet it was the old fashioned speak softly and carry a big stick approach. It's always worked. Just like the other Presidents you mentioned. Tyrants understand one thing and 1 thing only - fear of force. They know the obama's of the US will not come thru when the time comes. Just like Clinton failed to capture BinLaden until he was out of reach - then he decided it might be a good idea to hold him - too late of course. I wish I knew how Mccain would respond Larry T - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Andrew wrote: Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. To quote Colonel Potter from Mash, Horse Hockey Do you think Nixon was popular when he had the Kitchen Debates with Khrushchev? Do you think Reagan was popular with Soviets? Do you think President Bush is very popular in Libya? (did anyone else notice after the Irag War started, Khadafi, just handed over his nuclear weapon plans, and all material associated with it and went quietly back to his palace. I read a very small story several months ago. It was buried on page 10. It was three paragraphs long. The US and North Korea reached a deal on Nuclear weapons. I guess if Bush really is hated (which I think overstates the truth) around the world, I wonder how he got Libya and North Korea to back down. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Agreed - I thought pillow or frying pan, not gun, and I also have several, of all those options. Want to outlaw frying pans and pillows??? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Hmm. _I_ didn't think 'gun' when I read the original. And I even own several. Wonder what the pshrinks would think of all this? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
So will most Ds --- On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:27 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
I'd like to hear McCain negotiating with Vietnam - On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obama already is extremely popular overseas and this popularity will translate to strategic advantages for the USA. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Can I telecommute? Don't think I want to drive to work ;-) Larry T - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:33 AM Subject: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on Larry wrote: I truly think I could do para-legal work if I were to go to school - but the lawyers make the laws and things are difficult to break into because of the barriers set up. The lawyers in the legislature protect the lawyers in private practice. Also, the ABA contribute a lot of money to political campaigns to keep things going their way - true, like other groups - but with lawyers in power it's not the same. Larry you could do para-legal work. It requires limited training, no special degree, attention to detail, and methodical thinking. Para-legals are not licensed, so you there are not legal barriers preventing you from being a paralegal. I don't like my paralegal. Want a job? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
Finally got around to figuring out why my '83 300D door locks don't work -- one of the rigid plastic lines is cracked where it passes from the body into the driver's door. I'm now wondering if other cracked lines could be causing my intermittent (but increasing) problems with brake boost and engine shut-off. The door circuit is disconnected currently, and plugged. Are these rigid lines prone to failure after a certain age? Are new ones available/should I consider replacing all of them, or just as needed? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Jim wrote 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find The selection process is pretty poor! People always talk about the inherent unfairness of the Electoral College (which it isn't) and actually it's the primary system that gets the unstable ball rolling. Additionally, the media does its best to destroy anyone who runs - unless they like them, of course - so anyone who may be a great choice but who may have made a mistake/s when young will be destroyed to the greatest extent possible! I don't think I'd want my life scrutinized the way those guys are. No wonder only politicians are ever selected to run - they know how to play the game so their secrets are kept hidden. Plus, being wealthy helps when doing damage control. I'm not looking forward to the next 4 years regardless who wins - unless the 3rd party gets in gear and makes some headlines. I think B Barr would be perfect but his chance of winning in a 3rd party is pretty small. (IMHO) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Hmm, I thought that was what most voters period did. I can't remember the last president I voted _for_, since it's usually a vote _against_ the worst idiot in my case. And that's a sad state. What foreign wag was it that said 300 million people, and _those_ are the best two they could find? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
It's called polymerization...Sorta turns the oil into plastic. It's real and it destroys veggie powered engines. From what I understand BioDiesel doesn't do the same thing but I could be mistaken. I think I need to look into the analysis a bit more myself as I'd like the old GM 6.2 in my truck to last a while.. My blend of WVO and diesel costs me $1.21 or so per gallon x 20 MPG from a 1 ton crewcab works well for me. At that cost I could easily replace the engine and still make out ahead but I'd rather not. Mike AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing. Perhaps the Lab has tested some? I'll chec I'm just guessing, but I know some people using alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money on oil analysis is valid. I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share. Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but I would think some of those engines are failing. Perhaps that's being blamed on age or something else? What do ya'll think? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Dillon,Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution Larry, Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this. I firmly believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create byproducts not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines. Do you have any test results that you can share? I often challenge VO advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has stepped up. /s/ Max Dillon, digest lurker '87 300TD 309k miles Charleston, SC Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs https://webmail.nmci.navy.mil/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6169 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080610/1242517a/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
Here is an old email from Johnny B and Marshall. They both recommended applying Hylomar. -Dave Walton On May 9, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, All. Esp. Johnny B. Could some one give me the high points of Hylomar as it pertains to 190DT head gaskets? What is it exactly? Would NAPA stock it? How is it applied? Any other useful info appreciated, on list or off Ta, very much! Fred Moir Permatex Hylomar HPF (high performance formulation) #38411. Napa may stock it, I bought mine from a Car Quest, locally. It is a translucent blue sealant that also serves as a lubricant to minimize gasket scuffing. No idea what its made of. It appears that Marston Bentley Ltd owns the patent. I will not install a new head gasket between aluminum and cast iron without it. I've used it for years and never had a failure using Hylomar. It comes in a tube and is applied with a brush, I believe I saw it in a spray can years ago. I don't know of too many people who are even aware that this product exists. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am Frederick Moir wrote: Hi, All. Esp. Johnny B. Could some one give me the high points of Hylomar as it pertains to 190DT head gaskets? What is it exactly? Would NAPA stock it? How is it applied? Any other useful info appreciated, on list or off http://www.hylomar-usa.com/?sicontent=0sitrackingid=672074 Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:30 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the help of Luther's magic pin pulling tool, we got the head off today. you can see from the photos (if Kaleb approves them), that the head and block look good. It was very oily between #1 and the chain vault. Both sides of the gasket were wet and so were the head and block. There is one photo of #3 or 4 cyl gasket area for reference. I'd wiped the oil off the head and block before I took the photos, so those are the cleaner areas in the photos. Although we haven't cleaned the head for re-assembly, I don't see any cracking anywhere. I also don't see signs of the head being brnt or eroded from combustion gases - which I did expect to see. The PO (Richard) drove it this way for a couple of years! It doesn't look very carboned up to me, though it's been a LONG time since I've seen a Diesel head off an engine. I see from the EPC that there have been several versions of this head gasket over the years, adding extra sealing aroung coolant and oil ports, etc. What are the current thoughts about gasket sealants on head gaskets? This one did not have any on it, though it's probably original with 200k miles.. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 block.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 95802 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 cylinder one.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 85576 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head cyl 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 74092 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 72627 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom cu 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 79258 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket cyl 3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 78717 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0005.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
i'm a fan of the big knife. just take that old bowie and drive it in ya! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:00 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt that she would use a gun - too loud, someone would hear it. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:27 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
OK Don wrote: So will most Ds --- I thought most Dems were happy. They've got a candidate whose best claim is Hey, I just got here, and I haven't really done anything in the last three years, so the present situation isn't my fault, therefore I'm the solution, not part of the problem like Senator For Decades McLame ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My blend of WVO and diesel costs me $1.21 or so per gallon x 20 MPG from a 1 ton crewcab works well for me. At that cost I could easily replace the engine and still make out ahead but I'd rather not. I'm betting the ratio will be three Roosa Masters per engine, but I could be wrong, maybe the pump likes the lubricity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
dave walton wrote: Here is an old email from Johnny B and Marshall. They both recommended applying Hylomar. I can remember John saying that. I do not know if he put it on the metal cylinder seals or just on the fiber part. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Driving adventures
I mentioned that so people can visualize his charming Nigerian-American accent. ;) The other tech is Portuguese American. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, To be succinct, what's the point of including: the Nigerian tech? Did you also ask if he was American? Just an inquiring mind. Take care, Chuck ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Absolutely!! But why stop there? Does anyone remember the Monty Python skit about the lethal joke developed by the Brits to use against the Chermans in WWII? I nearly die whenever I see the rerun of that bit of cosmic absurdity. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed - I thought pillow or frying pan, not gun, and I also have several, of all those options. Want to outlaw frying pans and pillows??? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Hmm. _I_ didn't think 'gun' when I read the original. And I even own several. Wonder what the pshrinks would think of all this? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
My experience is that they tend to last forever - it's usually the servos or the rubber connectors that fail. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally got around to figuring out why my '83 300D door locks don't work -- one of the rigid plastic lines is cracked where it passes from the body into the driver's door. I'm now wondering if other cracked lines could be causing my intermittent (but increasing) problems with brake boost and engine shut-off. The door circuit is disconnected currently, and plugged. Are these rigid lines prone to failure after a certain age? Are new ones available/should I consider replacing all of them, or just as needed? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms ofvoter franchise on
Larry, if that were the case none of us would survive childhood. What I was implying is if that someone is impulsive and in the heat of the moment wants to murder a spouse, it's a lot easier to grab a gun and finish the job (if one is readily available) compared to, say, using a pillow or the lethal Python joke. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:00 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to believe a gun owner will always resort to shooting someone when things don;t go well! Just because you have a shoe handy doesn't mean you will rip it off your foot and beat someone to death just because they cut in line ahead of you does it? You're applying the same logic to gun owners! Perhaps if you feel gun owners are ready to snap any monent that means *you* are ready to snap at the slightest upset? Maybe someone should visit your home and consficate all knives, hammers, screwdrivers, 2x4's - and anything else that might possibly be used as a weapon? Sheesh!! Larry T - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce was Re: Orelegated alternative forms ofvoter franchise on You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lt Don wrote: I lost all respect (sorry, Donald) for attorneys when I saw my attorney and my ex's attorney sitting at a cafeteria table and laughing it up over cups of coffee . . . That means you should (at most) lose respect for divorce attorneys and (at least) lose respect for these two specific attorneys. I have never done domestic law, nor will I ever. I don't want to charge someone hundreds of dollars an hour, just so they can argue over who gets the toaster. My wife and I will be married for 10 years in September (first marriage for both of us). My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Lucky for me, I am a light sleeper. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that they tend to last forever - it's usually the servos or the rubber connectors that fail. In the doors or otherwise away from the engine, maybe they last forever. Under the hood the hard plastic lines get brittle and crack if you look at them funny. BTDT with my 300D... you have no hope of getting a 20+-year-old MB diesel A/T to shift right, I believe, unless you replace all the vacuum tubing, hard and soft, so you can rule out leaks. (Especially vexing are the the intermittent ones that are temperature-dependent---the black rubber tubing becomes less elastic with age and may seal just fine when cold but not when it heats up.) The hard plastic line is available from Rusty, either plain white or with the original stripes on it so you can preserve the color coding. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cover gone
..I have one of the tarp type garages over my boat, and after only 1.5 years, the tarp material is wasting away! It has kept things reasonably dry and protected SO FAR, but it ain't gonna last through another winter... Might be that Oregon acid rain or perhaps pulp mill fumes. RLE ** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
Great advice, Alex. I may just do that with my new 83 wagon. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience is that they tend to last forever - it's usually the servos or the rubber connectors that fail. In the doors or otherwise away from the engine, maybe they last forever. Under the hood the hard plastic lines get brittle and crack if you look at them funny. BTDT with my 300D... you have no hope of getting a 20+-year-old MB diesel A/T to shift right, I believe, unless you replace all the vacuum tubing, hard and soft, so you can rule out leaks. (Especially vexing are the the intermittent ones that are temperature-dependent---the black rubber tubing becomes less elastic with age and may seal just fine when cold but not when it heats up.) The hard plastic line is available from Rusty, either plain white or with the original stripes on it so you can preserve the color coding. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
That was on the other night, it is always good to see it now and then. I think it was in German, so it could be read by non-German speakers, who would not get it. A very lethal weapon. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Absolutely!! But why stop there? Does anyone remember the Monty Python skit about the lethal joke developed by the Brits to use against the Chermans in WWII? I nearly die whenever I see the rerun of that bit of cosmic absurdity. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:07 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed - I thought pillow or frying pan, not gun, and I also have several, of all those options. Want to outlaw frying pans and pillows??? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You unwittingly advanced another good argument for gun control My wife already told me that she would never divorce me, she would just kill me in my sleep if it came to that. Hmm. _I_ didn't think 'gun' when I read the original. And I even own several. Wonder what the pshrinks would think of all this? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
Getting the hard lines on or off the plastic tees is death to one or the other, in my experience the tee. I bodged up a brass tee from some brass barbs and a threaded tee for the main one where the everything else line goes off the main and to the brake booster. It sorta looks a bit dodgy but I don't think that one will be breaking anytime soon. A little black tape gives a good tight seal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Donald Snook wrote: If you really want a JD, do what I did: Give up a good job as a service manager at a large dealership, tell your wife it is going to be okay, cut ALL expenses dramatically, beg, borrow, steal, apply for every scholarship known to man, study hard for the LSAT so you can get merit based scholarships and go to law school. You will have to treat it like a full time job and work very hard. If you do and graduate high in your class you will have a guaranteed job, a JD, and a mountain of debt. But, it will all be worth it. Did you go to a public or private school? Is law one of those fields where the name of the place you graduate from really makes a difference? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel
Sold an old boat to a fellow who picked it up on Sunday afternoon - with a 92 3/4 ton Chevy pickup with the 6.2 diesel. He tells me it has just over 700,000 kilometers on it. That works out to about 434,000 miles. He says it has had some maintenance but is the original engine and transmission. A friend of his who happens to be a rural vet bought it new and drove it about 600,000 kilometers before pensioning it off to his farm and then ultimately selling it to the fellow who bought my boat. Good testiment for the 6.2 isn't it? He is an interesting fellow - also has an 84 Mercedes 300sd as well as a 90 Jetta turbo and a 75 F250 crewcab 4x4 with a 6.9. Also has a'59 GMC 4x4 project truck with a turbocharged,intercooled,6.2, and a 65 Cadillac that has not been diesled yet but who knows, maybe in time. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
Donald Snook wrote: If you really want a JD, do what I did: Give up a good job as a service manager at a large dealership, tell your wife it is going to be okay, cut ALL expenses dramatically, beg, borrow, steal, apply for every scholarship known to man, study hard for the LSAT so you can get merit based scholarships and go to law school. You will have to treat it like a full time job and work very hard. If you do and graduate high in your class you will have a guaranteed job, a JD, and a mountain of debt. But, it will all be worth it. Did you go to a public or private school? Is law one of those fields where the name of the place you graduate from really makes a difference? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
The plastic becomes quite brittle anywhere it's exposed to heat, light, or fuel/oil fumes. That means anything under the hood is easily broken, and most interior lines are fine. Flexing at the door hinge will break them, though. The replacement line is white only, not color coded, so don't get wild with it. Also, the plastic fitting in the main vac line will crack in a similar fashion. Buy a new line, there are restrictions of various sizes in the different lines, and making a monster tee instead will result in things like poor shutoff or loss of booster vac on sitting, etc. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
Tom Hargrave wrote: Wife and I are locked in the annoy the other to death contest. I'm sure that one will win, eventually. How goes her retirement progress? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The replacement line is white only, not color coded, so don't get wild with it. Did M-B stop producing the color-striped hard line? I didn't know that. Somewhere I have a list saved that Dave Meimann posted to the old list 5+ years ago, giving the part numbers for the different colors. I will post it when I find it. Of course, if they are NLA, it's moot. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cracked vacuum lines
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are restrictions of various sizes in the different lines, and making a monster tee instead will result in things like poor shutoff or loss of booster vac on sitting, etc. True. The fat little green and blue plastic cylinders here and there in the vacuum system, and the fitting just upstream from the vacuum pump, are precisely sized orifices that are there for a reason. They do get clogged and can stand to be flushed out or replaced periodically, but removing them entirely doesn't work either; too much vacuum can be just as bad as too little. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
Larry, thanks for pointing this out. I think you are correct. Note that Elsbett has been doing VO kits for years and they warn on their site: Shorter service interval between oil-changes. Alternatively, you can have your engine oil analysed. These measures prevent potentially damaging Polymerisation of vegetable oil mixing with the engine lubricating oil. http://www.elsbett.com/us/elsbett-conversion-technology/fundamentals.html The ultimate answer with VO (which is what Rudolf himself did whether VO or crude oil (thick crude from Ukraine)) is to modify the engine to suit the fuel at hand. Elsbett has done this for VO, but cannot find an automaker to buy the technology from them. Here is their flex fuel VO/D2 engine: http://www.elsbett.com/us/elsbett-diesel-technology/elsbett-engine.html FYI, Dr. Ludwig Elsbett invented passenger sized TDI and coined the phrase Turbo Direct Injection and called it TDI. It was bought by Volkswagen ...so these people are not crackpots. Chris LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, we haven't tested any VO or even BioFuels - which means none of *my* customers have submitted alt. fuels for testing. Perhaps the Lab has tested some? I'll chec I'm just guessing, but I know some people using alt. fuels are trying to save money so they may not think spending money on oil analysis is valid. I'll check with the lab and see if they have anything they can share. Don't know how long it takes or if the alt fuel will get the blame but I would think some of those engines are failing. Perhaps that's being blamed on age or something else? What do ya'll think? Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Dillon,Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63 To: Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution Larry, Very well put, and I really appreciate you speaking up on this. I firmly believe that responsible use of VO requires testing the engine oil and a creative maintenance schedule to counter-act the acids, water and other contaminants, and the chemical properties of the VO that create byproducts not found in #2 ULSD-burning engines. Do you have any test results that you can share? I often challenge VO advocates to provide some test results all the time, and not one has stepped up. /s/ Max Dillon, digest lurker '87 300TD 309k miles Charleston, SC Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:55:02 -0400 From: LarryT Subject: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Howdy - I know with fuel being close to $5/gal in many areas, it's tempting to try and save a little money by using an alternative fuel. I've spoken to some diesel owners who were using veg oil to power their engines and they were getting some amount of the veg oil past the rings and into the oil. Same for Biofuels - unfortunately some of these concoctions do not mix well with lubricating oil. One owner found his oil had turned rubbery after using veggie oil to power his diesel. Naturally the engine was damaged from lack of lubrication. I believe all engines - especially diesels due to their high compression levels experience blow-by (when combustion gases get past the rings into the crankcase oil) which gives an opportunity for the various alternative fuels being used to enter the crankcase and mix with the lube oils. This makes Oil Analysis important IMO, as you can learn how much of your fuel is getting past the rings - which will have an impact on the oil change intervals. Don't buy from me if you like, but consider getting an analysis done somewhere to establish a benchmark so you'll have an idea of how much alt fuel is entering the crankcase. Or perhaps you can determine this by other means? Since there are so many variables when discussing alt fuels (sources, filtration, purification, storage, heating methods, etc) it's difficult to know what alt fuel might be compatible with the required lubrication being used in the crankcase but IMO there is a risk when using these fuels you need to be aware of. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6169 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080610/1242517a
[MBZ] New Jetta
Sorry if this has been posted - the CarandDriver website has a quick review of the new diesel Jetta that gets 41mpg. www.CARandDRIVER.com Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Veggie Oil And Bio Fuel users - Words of Caution
on 6/10/08 15:54, Christopher McCann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shorter service interval between oil-changes. Alternatively, you can have your engine oil analysed. These measures prevent potentially damaging Polymerisation of vegetable oil mixing with the engine lubricating oil. From my reading, generally accepted best practice is to: - perform a compression check and oil analysis before you begin to use SVO, WVO, or home-brew biodiesel, - thereafter perform an oil analysis at least every 12 months (6 months is better), and a compression check each year. This is assuming you are using the alt fuel in a properly converted vehicle (e.g., coolant and/or electric heating for SVO/WVO, separate veg and diesel tanks, etc.). Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Nope - the lone Demo rep. in the ouse from OK refuses to endorse O - he;ll vote Demo, but won't endorse anyone now - too liberal for us Okies (who used to be one step away from commie - back in the 30's). I thought most Dems were happy. They've got a candidate whose best claim is Hey, I just got here, and I haven't really done anything in the last three years, so the present situation isn't my fault, therefore I'm the solution, not part of the problem like Senator For Decades McLame -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 380 se idle problem
Anybody have any idea where to start to track down an idle gremlin on my 85 380SE?? The symptoms are after warmup (aprox 3 mi) the idle goes from the usual 600is to 2000rpm. I've checked the linkage and it isn't binding anywhere. What is really odd is that this only happens on my morning commute. The afternoon commute idle is fine beginning to end (aprox 20 mi). I'm thinking an idle sensor or something like that, but I don't have a W126 disk and I don't know where the sensors are located. Thanks in advance Eric Peterson 85 380SE 120K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
But ... did you see on CNN today that McCain wants to veto beer? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:27 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you'll find when the time comes, most Rs will hold their nose and vote --- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security So, you are saying that your team will not bother to vote? If so, cool. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. This bumper sticker sums up the feelings of a lot of Republicans: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
If I were to do something like that, it would only be on the fiber part. I thought I'd remembered someting like that - but not that it was Hylomar. I used it between the timing case and the block on the 117 engine, but I didn't use anything on the head gasket. Who am I to out-guess/engineer MB? I can remember John saying that. I do not know if he put it on the metal cylinder seals or just on the fiber part. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
Who am I to out-guess/engineer MB? Lets see - rodbender engines, biodegradable wiring harnesses, water-based paint that flakes off all by itself... I suspect MB could use your help now and then. -Dave Walton On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:42 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were to do something like that, it would only be on the fiber part. I thought I'd remembered someting like that - but not that it was Hylomar. I used it between the timing case and the block on the 117 engine, but I didn't use anything on the head gasket. Who am I to out-guess/engineer MB? I can remember John saying that. I do not know if he put it on the metal cylinder seals or just on the fiber part. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
Hmmm - good point. Add the heater fan in the 115 to that list! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:48 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who am I to out-guess/engineer MB? Lets see - rodbender engines, biodegradable wiring harnesses, water-based paint that flakes off all by itself... I suspect MB could use your help now and then. -Dave Walton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
Im not sure I can think of what you are talking about. andrew strasfogel wrote: Buy one of those huge cheap domed airplane hanger structures! They cost surprisingly little - I always wanted one, but who has room in NW DC? On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there some cover that keeps water out, but will still breath? Im thinking Im going to buy a few of those cheap tarp garage things next time they go on sale at HF. Also my try putting a small tarp on the car over the front and rear windows but under the car cover, that might keep water from flowing over the leaking window gaskets Mitch Haley wrote: If the cover can't breathe, it turns into a sauna/rust chamber underneath. If it breathes, it's probably not waterproof. A carport is a superior solution, but it costs more than any cover. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
HF has them on sale quite often here for 159 or so Kevin Kraly wrote: I have one of the tarp type garages over my boat, and after only 1.5 years, the tarp material is wasting away! It has kept things reasonably dry and protected SO FAR, but it ain't gonna last through another winter. It's 11'X25' and cost me $229.95. I know that this wouldn't be nearly the price I'd have paid for dry storage over the same time period. I'm planning to buy a replacement cover for it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
yea, I have seen those too LarryT wrote: You might consider the metal carports - they come in all colors and run from $495-$795. Be sure to shop around. They last a long time and are very handy - even it not raining the keep leaves, pinestraw and birdcrap off the car. You can keep the car cover on for added protection. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] car cover What is a good car cover that will keep water from reaching the car? I bought one at walmart that said it was water proof, and we had a hell of a rain all day today, I get home and see I still am getting water leaking into the car. This is an old car which of course leaks water. Covered it up to keep the water out. I guess maybe my next step is to buy one of them portable garage things that is basically a frame and tarp material on the top and sides. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lawyers was Re: Orelegated alternative forms of
I'd suggest you do it, John, but you are already in a career track where an attorney will ask YOU for a loan. :-) On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:09 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: If you really want a JD, do what I did: Give up a good job as a service manager at a large dealership, tell your wife it is going to be okay, cut ALL expenses dramatically, beg, borrow, steal, apply for every scholarship known to man, study hard for the LSAT so you can get merit based scholarships and go to law school. You will have to treat it like a full time job and work very hard. If you do and graduate high in your class you will have a guaranteed job, a JD, and a mountain of debt. But, it will all be worth it. Did you go to a public or private school? Is law one of those fields where the name of the place you graduate from really makes a difference? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lawyers was re: Re: Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Holy crap, I should not have clicked to see your pic, very scary Donald Snook wrote: Larry wrote: Bear in mind I do not include Donald in with most other lawyers. Now, having said that .. ... I'm also in Va - I;m sure you've seen all the lawyers advertising on TV and the radio - everything from silly - a lawyer sitting in a little space ship like those we'd ride in as kids for 10 cents - while he made his pitch, to the seemingly sincere We'll work for YOU! Yeah, right. I think you may have figured out how to judge a good attorney. Here it is, are you ready? Good highly sought after lawyers DO NOT advertise. Like anything else there are exceptions to this rule. There are a few good plaintiff's attorneys who advertise, but for the most part (in my opinion), if you need to advertise you are developing your clients well and you are getting the word of mouth necessary to sustain a good law practice. My firm is over 103 years old. For the last 60-70 years we have averaged 15-18 attorneys on the roll. We stay very busy and in 100 years, we have not advertised. We do have a website (I don't know if I would consider that advertising). Here is the website if anyone is interested. (I wonder if this constitutes advertising - I may have just broken 103 years of tradition. http://www.mtsqh.com/ Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Attorneys/divorce
I think I am in stage 3 now. Donald Snook wrote: Andrew wrote: Sounds like you have a great marriage. I am not sure if you are referring to me or to Jim. BUT, I will share with you the secret to a happy marriage. No kidding this is really it. I got this from my father-in-law. I am laying out some serious wisdom here, so pay attention! The Secret to a Happy Marriage is found by understanding the SHIT theory. (My father in law is a Baptist Preacher, and he used the word Shit, so I will, too) Stage 1: When you are first dating and even first married, everything is wonderful. Everything your partner does is cute and funny and you eat all their shit with a spoon. You can't get enough. It is a wonderful time, you are in love. Not only do you not care that you are eating their shit, you love it. Stage 2. You are still eating your partner's shit, but now you know you are eating their shit. You don't really like it anymore. All those things that you used to think were so cute and endearing are now annoying you. They are driving you crazy. You keep eating the shit and forcing a smile on your face. The longer you are in stage 2, the worse it is. The more likely you are in a dying marriage. You grow bitter with each day. One day, you will wake up and tell your partner, that you don't want to eat their shit anymore. You don't like it and you have had enough. Stage 3. You don't eat any shit here. You tell your partner so. You are both happy and can communicate honestly. There is magic back in the relationship. The secret is to get through stage 2 as quickly as possible. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] car cover
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HF has them on sale quite often here for 159 or so I have one of those canopies. It's well worth the price---easy to set up and much sturdier than I expected. Provision for anchoring it to the ground is minimal, so factor in some money for that, depending on the site and your engineering skill. Mine blew away once before I tied the frame down with stout rope to a couple of cinderblocks at each corner. (It went right up and over and started skidding down the snowy pasture looking like a giant beetle on its back with its legs in the air. Miraculously, when the legs went up they didn't hit the car it was covering---the only car I have with a paint job worth worrying about!) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 380 se idle problem
could be the idle air valve, or the idle computer, thats about the only 2 things involved in it eric peterson wrote: Anybody have any idea where to start to track down an idle gremlin on my 85 380SE?? The symptoms are after warmup (aprox 3 mi) the idle goes from the usual 600is to 2000rpm. I've checked the linkage and it isn't binding anywhere. What is really odd is that this only happens on my morning commute. The afternoon commute idle is fine beginning to end (aprox 20 mi). I'm thinking an idle sensor or something like that, but I don't have a W126 disk and I don't know where the sensors are located. Thanks in advance Eric Peterson 85 380SE 120K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
