[MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Hi folks You might recall that I posted here a week or so ago, asking whether anyone else had experienced occasional momentary steering lock-ups (hesitations, really) while driving. My MB fixer (an Indy I believe you would call him) is a great adherent to the Occam's Razor principle (the simplest answer is likely to be the right one). He has started off with the assumption that a loose fan belt is to blame. So far so good. There has been no recurrence of the lock-ups. I'll report back if there's any progression from this fix. Cheers Euan CHCH, NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 209K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Euan wrote: He has started off with the assumption that a loose fan belt is to blame. So far so good. There has been no recurrence of the lock-ups. So rather than lock-up, you experienced an increase in steering effort when the hydraulic pump for the power assisted steering stopped turning? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: suing government
Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ยง1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complaint.pdf Do attorneys always lose their dignity when process is being served? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=105421 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Heck yes! It has happened to me a few times in the '05 E320 when going over bumps at lower speed while turning. It is like it hits a stop then releases. Very strange. What the heck is this deal then? Bob R. Gonna be 113 today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:08 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update Hi folks You might recall that I posted here a week or so ago, asking whether anyone else had experienced occasional momentary steering lock-ups (hesitations, really) while driving. My MB fixer (an Indy I believe you would call him) is a great adherent to the Occam's Razor principle (the simplest answer is likely to be the right one). He has started off with the assumption that a loose fan belt is to blame. So far so good. There has been no recurrence of the lock-ups. I'll report back if there's any progression from this fix. Cheers Euan CHCH, NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 209K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT California Vacation
I'm with Dan on that one. If you're a bit adventureous check out the Red Victorian http://redvic.com/ a bed and breakfast in the Haight Ashbury area. My wife and I stayed there 3 or 4 years ago. Its a neat little place in a pretty crazy part of the city. Quite inexpensive too. As a second I'm in Burbank right now, just outside of LA and all the movie studios and whatnot to see. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:36:58 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT California Vacation To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Can't go wrong with San Francisco. So much to do/see along with easy day trips (if you want them) it's hard not to have SFO at the top of your list. (I'm a *little* prejudiced because I lived there, but) Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g - various garden varmints
I'll keep the rabbits. We had those very ugly faced ducks down South. I didn't mind them drinking out of our small fountain by the front door, but then they would hop in [no way they actually fit] and poop in the water and all over the walk and porch every day. Learned to despise those critters. At least the rabbits poop in the weeds and can't get their mouths through the anti-rabbit fence on the grapes. Better the devil I know ... Now those bushy-tailed rodents with the good PR firm are another story. I had to put builders cloth [?? small squared wire] over the soffit vents around the entire house to keep them out of the attic, then repaint the wood trim every place they made or tried to make a 'door' through the screen. I am no longer a fan of the vermin - except perhaps next to the mashed potatoes. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g That's what ducks are for - great bug eaters. Of course, they also like to eat most of the same veggies you do, and will think of grapes as dessert --- Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT California Vacation
Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in Burbank right now, Got Price is Right tickets? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
You might recall that I posted here a week or so ago, asking whether anyone else had experienced occasional momentary steering lock-ups (hesitations, really) while driving. You didn't say 'hesitations' before. Had us all thrown. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bike purchase
While I'd like a BMW the ONLY bike is a Honda... ;) Its hard to beat an old Honda CB, easy to work on like an MB but lots of power. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:26:06 -0500 From: OK Don lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] bike purchase To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just like there is only one car (MB), there is only one bike - BMW. Not that I'm opinionated or anything -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
I have owned 17 Mercedes to date and I have never gotten better than sticker mileage with any of them. My latest - a 300SDL, gets a consistent 22 MPG in town and 25 MPG on the road. My oldest Son consistently gets much better mileage than sticker but he's an extremely conservative driver. He would consistently get 29 - 30 MPG out of the 77 300D we used to own where I would get 24 MPG. Problem is, I can't stand riding with him! If you are getting much better than sticker then I suggest that you are a very conservative driver, the differential has been swapped out causing mis-calculation or you don't know how to accurately calculate MPG. Speaking of MPG, I noticed that even though gas diesel have been rising, the spread between the two has not increased. If the spread stays the same as prices rise, it will cheaper to drive the diesel again. I guess I'll be putting the 300SDL back on the road. Here's the numbers: City Jeep = 17 MPG highway = $0.24 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 22 MPG highway = $0.22 / mile at $4.76 / gal Highway Jeep = 20 MPG highway = $0.20 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 25 MPG highway = $0.19 / mile at $4.76 / gal Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 300D anti jerk
I see that according to the epc my vehicle should have the anti jerk unit mounted on the inj pump. Mine does not have it I just remembered the page I put together when I was trying to figure out the throttle damper business for my 190D: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d/tdamper.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
or maybe all of your cars just suck? On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have owned 17 Mercedes to date and I have never gotten better than sticker mileage with any of them. My latest - a 300SDL, gets a consistent 22 MPG in town and 25 MPG on the road. My oldest Son consistently gets much better mileage than sticker but he's an extremely conservative driver. He would consistently get 29 - 30 MPG out of the 77 300D we used to own where I would get 24 MPG. Problem is, I can't stand riding with him! If you are getting much better than sticker then I suggest that you are a very conservative driver, the differential has been swapped out causing mis-calculation or you don't know how to accurately calculate MPG. Speaking of MPG, I noticed that even though gas diesel have been rising, the spread between the two has not increased. If the spread stays the same as prices rise, it will cheaper to drive the diesel again. I guess I'll be putting the 300SDL back on the road. Here's the numbers: City Jeep = 17 MPG highway = $0.24 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 22 MPG highway = $0.22 / mile at $4.76 / gal Highway Jeep = 20 MPG highway = $0.20 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 25 MPG highway = $0.19 / mile at $4.76 / gal Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: suing government
Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complaint.pd; Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
I'd get a job closer to home, I'm probably paying $5000-$6000 a year just to commute now. Enlarge our garden, we've got something like 60sq/ft now. I'm intensive gardening so theres a lot less work since the garden plants crowd out the weeds. I'd start keeping rabbits for meat. You can easily keep rabbits in a small yard and grow most of their food. We're already looking to switch grocery stores. The IGA around the corner from our house is alot smaller and a little more expensive but we can walk there. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:10:37 -0400 From: Bill R lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; charset=us-ascii I'd stay home even more, weekly date with my Darling Wife would not be weekly; start a garden, though I would have a hard time working it and we have a lot of wild rabbits.nbsp; Maybe I would develop a taste for rabbit ... keep the house warmer in the Summer and cooler in the Winter, start charging my MIL more than $100/month for housing/electric/cable/internet/ maintenance ... or maybe not.nbsp; Look for part time work. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 12:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g bike to work (6 blocks), kids walk to school (private, no bus), 5 blocks, walk to shop, 3 blocks. Turn my south yard into an algae farm and make BioD out of the oil. Grow lots of veggies, which will cost a fortune because of trucking. CM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. --R Donald Snook wrote: Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
I'd start keeping rabbits for meat. You can easily keep rabbits in a small yard and grow most of their food. They are also generally very quiet. (Unlike birds.) They only scream if something's attacking them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Rich Thomas wrote: My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. There was a Dr Quinn, MD here locally until she got married. Her first name was not Michaela though. I guess she took her husband's name to get away from Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman as portrayed by Jane Seymour. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W`123 Center armrest and PW regulator removal
1) Can someone please advise me on how to remove the driver's seat center armrest on a 1983 300TD? Does the large button that releases the armrest pop/pry off? 2) When removing a power window regulator on the same car, does the glass need to be completely or partially lowered? TIA, Andrew 1983 300TD (three) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
You'd be surprised [or maybe not] how many professionals do change their name for just that reason. Last one I ran into was a physician. Coffin became something like James. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:41 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT: suing government Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complai nt.pd Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
Negative on the very conservative driver, I flog the daylights out of my cars. My 240D got its best tank at 65mph but it killed me to drive that speed for that long. Negative on not knowing how to calculate the mpg, distance traveled / gallons used = mpg its pretty easy. I've got some fairly substantial spreadsheets. That said I don't have working AC, I don't idle the cars much at all. I don't putter around town. I keep tire pressure on the high side and don't carry alot of stuff with me. I go someplace and then I come back, theres very little mucking about. -Curt --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Tom Hargrave lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Tom Hargrave lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: RE: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:37 AM I have owned 17 Mercedes to date and I have never gotten better than sticker mileage with any of them. My latest - a 300SDL, gets a consistent 22 MPG in town and 25 MPG on the road. My oldest Son consistently gets much better mileage than sticker but he's an extremely conservative driver. He would consistently get 29 - 30 MPG out of the 77 300D we used to own where I would get 24 MPG. Problem is, I can't stand riding with him! If you are getting much better than sticker then I suggest that you are a very conservative driver, the differential has been swapped out causing mis-calculation or you don't know how to accurately calculate MPG. Speaking of MPG, I noticed that even though gas amp; diesel have been rising, the spread between the two has not increased. If the spread stays the same as prices rise, it will cheaper to drive the diesel again. I guess I'll be putting the 300SDL back on the road. Here's the numbers: City Jeep = 17 MPG highway = $0.24 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 22 MPG highway = $0.22 / mile at $4.76 / gal Highway Jeep = 20 MPG highway = $0.20 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 25 MPG highway = $0.19 / mile at $4.76 / gal Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List amp;lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comamp;gt; Message-ID: amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp; amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.amp;nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
perhaps traffic conditions might also have something to do with it? atlanta does have a bit of traffic to get stuck in, which could cost a few mpg, no? or perhaps it's just that atlanta cars suck and mine are especially bad On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Negative on the very conservative driver, I flog the daylights out of my cars. My 240D got its best tank at 65mph but it killed me to drive that speed for that long. Negative on not knowing how to calculate the mpg, distance traveled / gallons used = mpg its pretty easy. I've got some fairly substantial spreadsheets. That said I don't have working AC, I don't idle the cars much at all. I don't putter around town. I keep tire pressure on the high side and don't carry alot of stuff with me. I go someplace and then I come back, theres very little mucking about. -Curt --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:37 AM I have owned 17 Mercedes to date and I have never gotten better than sticker mileage with any of them. My latest - a 300SDL, gets a consistent 22 MPG in town and 25 MPG on the road. My oldest Son consistently gets much better mileage than sticker but he's an extremely conservative driver. He would consistently get 29 - 30 MPG out of the 77 300D we used to own where I would get 24 MPG. Problem is, I can't stand riding with him! If you are getting much better than sticker then I suggest that you are a very conservative driver, the differential has been swapped out causing mis-calculation or you don't know how to accurately calculate MPG. Speaking of MPG, I noticed that even though gas diesel have been rising, the spread between the two has not increased. If the spread stays the same as prices rise, it will cheaper to drive the diesel again. I guess I'll be putting the 300SDL back on the road. Here's the numbers: City Jeep = 17 MPG highway = $0.24 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 22 MPG highway = $0.22 / mile at $4.76 / gal Highway Jeep = 20 MPG highway = $0.20 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 25 MPG highway = $0.19 / mile at $4.76 / gal Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
my uncle came to america as layos helmeci in the early 60s. he was a doctor working out of mt sinai hospital in nyc. another doctor there advised him that if he didn't change his name to something people could relate to, he would be hindering his career. my uncle, an ambitious man, couldn't stand the idea of having to live on the 22nd floor instead of the penthouse of his building on the east side, asked the more senior physician what name he might suggest. at the time, the other man was reading a book by lillian hellman and thought that was a good name. henceforth my uncle was dr larry hellman, and even though he did move up to the duplex penthouse on the east side, he never got out of the habit of shopping the fur department at alexanders, so i grew up wearing the funkiest ghetto fur coats from the 70s. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'd be surprised [or maybe not] how many professionals do change their name for just that reason. Last one I ran into was a physician. Coffin became something like James. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:41 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT: suing government Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complai nt.pd Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
i never will understand how anyone can support a policy where the elite and the criminals can get arms, but you can't. and yet the population continues to allow such nonsense to go on in much of this country. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
Possibly but not likely unless you are suggesting that Mercedes suck. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 6/17/08 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida or maybe all of your cars just suck? On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have owned 17 Mercedes to date and I have never gotten better than sticker mileage with any of them. My latest - a 300SDL, gets a consistent 22 MPG in town and 25 MPG on the road. My oldest Son consistently gets much better mileage than sticker but he's an extremely conservative driver. He would consistently get 29 - 30 MPG out of the 77 300D we used to own where I would get 24 MPG. Problem is, I can't stand riding with him! If you are getting much better than sticker then I suggest that you are a very conservative driver, the differential has been swapped out causing mis-calculation or you don't know how to accurately calculate MPG. Speaking of MPG, I noticed that even though gas diesel have been rising, the spread between the two has not increased. If the spread stays the same as prices rise, it will cheaper to drive the diesel again. I guess I'll be putting the 300SDL back on the road. Here's the numbers: City Jeep = 17 MPG highway = $0.24 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 22 MPG highway = $0.22 / mile at $4.76 / gal Highway Jeep = 20 MPG highway = $0.20 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 25 MPG highway = $0.19 / mile at $4.76 / gal Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Message-ID: nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]lt%3B8b0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Center armrest and PW regulator removal
1) Can someone please advise me on how to remove the driver's seat center armrest on a 1983 300TD? Does the large button that releases the armrest pop/pry off? Some of them come off from the inside of the seat frame. I don't think I've ever removed one with the latching button, the ones that just pivot have a pry-out plastic cap that covers the big nut. 2) When removing a power window regulator on the same car, does the glass need to be completely or partially lowered? Yes, in order to release the bolts that hold the glass to the regulator frame. Then I think you have to push the glass back up out of the way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
That's $s and only every other week or 2. Tennis is cheap, balls can be purchased for $1/can and used for 3-4 hours before they don't play the same. Luther On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:54:52 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about golf? Bob R -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Is it possible to sue for damages when he has not been actually damaged? Seems like the Heller V Wash DC had more plaintiffs until a judge ruled only one had been damaged by the cities law denying any guns in DC unless disassembled. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
At last count I believe 40 states now have Shall Issue regulations meaning the govt must issue if the applican passes the background test and takes the training course. BTW, the training course is very helpful for someone not very familiar with guns. My wife for one. Although she had fired guns in the past she was surprised to find how difficult it is to hit a target at ~20' with a handgin small enough to be easily concealed. Her past shooting irons had 6 or longer barrels which are much easier to aim. But she passed the test - ;-) The latest numbers are : Thirty-six states have shall issue laws, requiring that carry permits be issued to applicants who meet uniform standards established by the state legislature. Three have fairly-administered discretionary-issue carry permit systems. One, Vermont, respects the right to carry without a permit. Alaska, one of the shall issue states, has its permit system for the purpose of permit-reciprocity with other states, and also adopted a no-permit-required law in 2003. . There are 10 non-RTC states. Eight have restrictively-administered discretionary-issue systems. Only two-Illinois and Wisconsin-have no permit system and prohibit carrying. The above quoted from www.nra-ila-org/issues/factsheets/read.aspx?ID=18 Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government i never will understand how anyone can support a policy where the elite and the criminals can get arms, but you can't. and yet the population continues to allow such nonsense to go on in much of this country. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. A lot of CA police chiefs and sheriffs have a policy of denying all CCW applications, except for friends and contributors. I guess Torrance was just trying to be helpful with that letter: Here's the application you requested, but you may want to save yourself the application fee, because it's our policy to deny all applications. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
We had a similar situation with a Honda Accord when it rained hard and the power steering belt got wet. I guess it would slip when wet and leave the driver with the feeling that something was wrong with the steering. I also recall driving an old Ranchero that belonged to an employer many years ago. I was turning from one street onto another when I thought something broke in the steering. Good thing I was not going very fast as I cut a really sloppy corner but did not hit the curb. What happened was that the engine stalled so of course I did not have power brakes either. A bit disturbing at the time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update Euan wrote: He has started off with the assumption that a loose fan belt is to blame. So far so good. There has been no recurrence of the lock-ups. So rather than lock-up, you experienced an increase in steering effort when the hydraulic pump for the power assisted steering stopped turning? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS suing government NOW FIRM NAMES
There is a law firm in Ottawa called Smart and Bigger (maybe Biggar). At any rate it always struck me as good to have lawyers that were not only smart but bigger. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:41 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: [MBZ] OT: suing government Mitch wrote: Is this the sort of suit that Snook defends? (42 USC ?1983 against Torrance CA) http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/cccw/cache/pdffiles/torrance_complaint.pd; Yes. As a matter of fact that would be the type of case we defend - IF by type you mean someone suing an municipality or other governmental entity. This case sounds very strange. I don't understand why the city would have this policy and I certainly don't understand why they would announce it as their policy. But, if I was defending it, I don't get to consider my own values, I represent the client. I am not very impressed with the complaint. Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS suing government NOW FIRM NAMES
R A Bennell wrote: There is a law firm in Ottawa called Smart and Bigger A couple of guys here in Michigan by the names of Peters and Steele opened an advertising agency. I called one of them at work once and just about cracked up when the receptionist picked up the phone and cheerfully proclaimed: Steele Peters. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Robert Rentfro wrote: Heck yes! It has happened to me a few times in the '05 E320 when going over bumps at lower speed while turning. It is like it hits a stop then releases. Very strange. What the heck is this deal then? Interesting... My E320 has never done any such thing. When making a high speed turn it seems to stiffen up though. ie, making a left across a 4-lane intersection without slowing down. Other than that it is nice and smooth. The 2.5T had this problem when I had the wrong PS pump on it. The original went bad, and when I got one off of Kaleb it was for a different chassis. Long story short, the different chassis have gearboxes that have different operating pressures. The pump I got from Kaleb was for W126 which had a ~80 bar operating pressure. The one for the W124 was ~110 bar. You would usually only notice when turning into a parking spot... the steering felt like you were trying to turn the tires with the engine off and in a parking lot. Proper PS pump fixed the problem. I really doubt thats the problem with your E320 though ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
That's actually the law firm in Harvard Square -- there is a window on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the building right in the middle of the Square with that name in gold letters on it. Been there for ages, and when they remodeled the building some years ago they replaced the window. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Center armrest and PW regulator removal
Thanks, Jim. I don't look forward to messing with the seat frame, but that does sound more logical. On my 111 coupe one simply pries off the cover, and there is a circular brass compression (adjusting) nut with four slots that requirees a special tool to remove/tighten. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Can someone please advise me on how to remove the driver's seat center armrest on a 1983 300TD? Does the large button that releases the armrest pop/pry off? Some of them come off from the inside of the seat frame. I don't think I've ever removed one with the latching button, the ones that just pivot have a pry-out plastic cap that covers the big nut. 2) When removing a power window regulator on the same car, does the glass need to be completely or partially lowered? Yes, in order to release the bolts that hold the glass to the regulator frame. Then I think you have to push the glass back up out of the way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida
Could be, my 28mpg is largely highway driving with not a ton of traffic. I drive 55 miles in just about an hour each way now and pull right around 40mpg. When I was driving the 240D it was more like 45 miles in more like 50 minutes. -Curt --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Gary Hurst lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 10:50 AM perhaps traffic conditions might also have something to do with it?nbsp; atlanta does have a bit of traffic to get stuck in, which could cost a few mpg, no? or perhaps it's just that atlanta cars suck and mine are especially bad On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: Negative on the very conservative driver, I flog the daylights out of my cars. My 240D got its best tank at 65mph but it killed me to drive that speed for that long. Negative on not knowing how to calculate the mpg, distance traveled / gallons used = mpg its pretty easy. I've got some fairly substantial spreadsheets. That said I don't have working AC, I don't idle the cars much at all. I don't putter around town. I keep tire pressure on the high side and don't carry alot of stuff with me. I go someplace and then I come back, theres very little mucking about. -Curt --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Tom Hargrave lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Tom Hargrave lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: RE: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:37 AM I have owned 17 Mercedes to date and I have never gotten better than sticker mileage with any of them. My latest - a 300SDL, gets a consistent 22 MPG in town and 25 MPG on the road. My oldest Son consistently gets much better mileage than sticker but he's an extremely conservative driver. He would consistently get 29 - 30 MPG out of the 77 300D we used to own where I would get 24 MPG. Problem is, I can't stand riding with him! If you are getting much better than sticker then I suggest that you are a very conservative driver, the differential has been swapped out causing mis-calculation or you don't know how to accurately calculate MPG. Speaking of MPG, I noticed that even though gas amp; diesel have been rising, the spread between the two has not increased. If the spread stays the same as prices rise, it will cheaper to drive the diesel again. I guess I'll be putting the 300SDL back on the road. Here's the numbers: City Jeep = 17 MPG highway = $0.24 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 22 MPG highway = $0.22 / mile at $4.76 / gal Highway Jeep = 20 MPG highway = $0.20 / mile at $4.08 / gal 300SDL = 25 MPG highway = $0.19 / mile at $4.76 / gal Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida Then your car sucks. I used to average 28 with my 90 mile round trip commute. My 190D just nudges 40 on my now 110 mile commute. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:57:21 -0400 From: Gary Hurst amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida To: Mercedes Discussion List amp;lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comamp;gt; Message-ID: amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp;amp;nbsp; amp;lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 nbsp;i never got more than mid 20s from any 240D.amp;nbsp; generally more like 22 or 23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008 7:20 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Center armrest and PW regulator removal
a circular brass compression (adjusting) nut with four slots that requirees a special tool to remove/tighten. I call that special tool: needlenose pliers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Professional group names: Payne Fears, LLP.-Attorneys Low, Ball Lynch-Attorneys Recht Greef-Attorneys. The name Recht is pronounced wrecked. Dewey, Cheatham Howe---http://requaweb.home.comcast.net/~requaweb/dewey/index.htm --- - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. --R Donald Snook wrote: Did you notice that the plaintiff's attorney is from a firm called Nelson and Lawless? I think if my name was Lawless, I would not be a lawyer. Just think if he was a Judge? Judge Lawless, sounds like a Batman villain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Antenna replacement
Has anybody bought one of those Hirchman OE replacement antennas on eBay? The guy says OE but not OEM replacement ie its a generic fit from an OE manufacturer. A new OEM replacement from Rusty is $197ish, the guy on eBay is like $50 shipped. I took the antenna from my 240D apart but its in tough shape so I figured I'd replace the one in my 190D and use the parts from both of the bad ones to maybe make one good one... So I got the antenna, its nice enough and the guy sent instructions on how to add it to my car. I'm gone for 8 more days so I'm just trying to figure out the installation in my head before I do it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida - how much driving?
It seems than at Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:57:55 -0500, John wrote: What kind of work did you do? Only 1500 miles of that 9k was work related. Although it would be nice if it was more as I would reimbursed for the fuel!! John You ought to be reimbursed at the IRS mileage rate - like $0.51/mile now. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Center armrest and PW regulator removal
There actually IS a special Mercedes tool just for this nut! On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a circular brass compression (adjusting) nut with four slots that requirees a special tool to remove/tighten. I call that special tool: needlenose pliers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting vehicles in New England
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/717894790.html - Sheesh, if I didn't have my 240D... http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/717506926.html - This guy has been posting a variety of diesel VWs and MBs for awhile now... http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/car/715797086.html - Odd, I wonder if this is the 101hp Nissan they used in the Scout. http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/722983817.html - Cheap 124 gasser http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/722698248.html - Drool No affiliation etc... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida - how much driving?
Fmiser wrote: You ought to be reimbursed at the IRS mileage rate - like $0.51/mile now. Yep! :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida - how much driving?
Just think, the ONE WAY cost of fuel to drive my 22 mpg 300TD from D.C. to NYC (225 miles) would be 225/20 gals [10.22] X $4.80/gal, or $49.05. Add another $20 for tolls and that comes to about $70.00 (!!). The bus trip is only $25 pp. and off-peak Amtrak is $69.00. That's a powerful disincentive to drive without at least 2 additional passengers...! On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fmiser wrote: You ought to be reimbursed at the IRS mileage rate - like $0.51/mile now. Yep! :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
And people who listen to Car Talk thought the boys were making that up. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's actually the law firm in Harvard Square -- there is a window on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the building right in the middle of the Square with that name in gold letters on it. Been there for ages, and when they remodeled the building some years ago they replaced the window. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida - how much driving?
andrew strasfogel wrote: Just think, the ONE WAY cost of fuel to drive my 22 mpg 300TD from D.C. to NYC (225 miles) would be 225/20 gals [10.22] X $4.80/gal, or $49.05. Add another $20 for tolls and that comes to about $70.00 (!!). The bus trip is only $25 pp. and off-peak Amtrak is $69.00. That's a powerful disincentive to drive without at least 2 additional passengers...! My parents are about 250 miles away. With the CDI I can drive down and back on one tank of fuel, but it costs $80 to fill it up! Fortunately, where I drive there are no tolls (only one I've experienced so far was in Pensacola to go to the beach). I think if I had $20 worth of tolls I would certainly be considering alternate forms of transportation! It was close to $500 in FUEL ALONE to drive out to Phoenix... plus hotels, food, etc. Since I had my brother with he paid hotels and we saved money over flying + rental car. With just one person it is definitely cheaper to fly. The problem with that is I can't rent a Mercedes! ;) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Re: Steering lock-ups - latest update/?
Lately, when I hit reply, my Okiebenz mail goes to the indivdual that sent the mail to the list.? Gotta fix that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 6:11 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update/? Are we talking rack and pinion here?? Does the 85 have rack and pinion?? They are much more likely to lock up, especially when cold.? the GM X bodied cars of the early 80s were scary to drive on a cold morning! ? Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Robert Rentfro lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 5:20 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update Heck yes! It has happened to me a few times in the '05 E320 when going over bumps at lower speed while turning. It is like it hits a stop then releases. Very strange. What the heck is this deal then?Bob R. Gonna be 113 today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:08 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest updateHi folksYou might recall that I posted here a week or so ago, asking whether anyone else had experienced occasional momentary steering lock-ups (hesitations, really) while driving. My MB fixer (an Indy I believe you would call him) is a great adherent to the Occam's Razor principle (the simplest answer is likely to be the right one). He has started off with the assumption that a loose fan belt is to blame. So far so good. There has been no recurrence of the lock-ups.I'll report back if there's any progression from this fix.CheersEuan CHCH, NZ1985 300TD 5-spd manual 209K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
By my reckoning, we're up to about $ 8.7/g here in the UK, so not long to go . Howard Fulford Bath England 190E, 1989, 2.0 l ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lizard update in florida - how much driving?
Take the Chinese bus and it will only cost you $10, or maybe $20 from there. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Just think, the ONE WAY cost of fuel to drive my 22 mpg 300TD from D.C. to NYC (225 miles) would be 225/20 gals [10.22] X $4.80/gal, or $49.05. Add another $20 for tolls and that comes to about $70.00 (!!). The bus trip is only $25 pp. and off-peak Amtrak is $69.00. That's a powerful disincentive to drive without at least 2 additional passengers...! On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fmiser wrote: You ought to be reimbursed at the IRS mileage rate - like $0.51/mile now. Yep! :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Here are a coupla post op photos of interior. Still to do: Hook up water and Freon pipes and RR dryer and compressor manifold. 'Had only one little mishap that I know of so far: When I was trying to press one of the little spring clips (~1/2 X 1/4) back in place on outside of the evap/heat exchanger box, my thumb slipped, and clip went flying; 'heard it hit the carpet (real Persian rug) somewhere behind me. 'Looked for it quite a while, but the color patterns on the rug make it hard to find little things like that. Sometimes it helps to lay a flashlight down on the rug and sweep it slowly back and forth like a RADAR beam to be able to find something like that, but no luck this time. 'Probably find it when I hear it in the vacuum cleaner hose. 'Used a tie-wrap/zip-tie in place of the clip. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
I always thought so, especially in light of the rest of their 'staff,' Thanks for the info. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government And people who listen to Car Talk thought the boys were making that up. Dan --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's actually the law firm in Harvard Square -- there is a window on the 2nd or 3rd floor of the building right in the middle of the Square with that name in gold letters on it. Been there for ages, and when they remodeled the building some years ago they replaced the window. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Or how about the Three Stooges law firm? Dewey, Cheatham and Howe Then there was the actual brokerage firm that had a sense of humour and was allowed to call themselves Amalgamated Urine. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Wilton Strickland wrote: Here are a coupla post op photos of interior. Where? my thumb slipped, and clip went flying; 'heard it hit the carpet (real Persian rug) somewhere behind me. Get yourself a magnet and sweep the rug with it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
Didn't you see the jokers in Deov or Cornwall selling at 1.99 pounds per litre? They dropped it back to 1.36 now. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
Make that Devon On 17/06/2008, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't you see the jokers in Deov or Cornwall selling at 1.99 pounds per litre? They dropped it back to 1.36 now. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Subject: Today's Diesel Prices Tom Hargrave This diesel price report in tough to read because of how the lines wrap. Can you set client to not wrap the lines? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Good point, Jim. Apologies if I caused confusion. These lock-ups are certainly detectable but only momentary. So, it's hard to describe precisely what's happened. For that fleeting moment, the wagon is operating independently of my steering intentions, in a fashion not dissimilar to hitting a patch of ice on the road while turning. In this case, there is no loss of traction, of course. A brief failure of power-steering input would produce an effect similar to a momentary lock-up. 'Hesitation' is a more ambiguous term for the phenomenon. Euan You didn't say 'hesitations' before. Had us all thrown. -- Jim /div ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Sure its not floating? -Rolf Euan wrote: Good point, Jim. Apologies if I caused confusion. These lock-ups are certainly detectable but only momentary. So, it's hard to describe precisely what's happened. For that fleeting moment, the wagon is operating independently of my steering intentions, in a fashion not dissimilar to hitting a patch of ice on the road while turning. In this case, there is no loss of traction, of course. A brief failure of power-steering input would produce an effect similar to a momentary lock-up. 'Hesitation' is a more ambiguous term for the phenomenon. Euan You didn't say 'hesitations' before. Had us all thrown. -- Jim /div ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
To those who might be renting a car! Some rental car companies are now charging $8.00 a gallon if you don't top up the tank before returning the car. Be warned! Do not turn a rental car in without topping up or having a front end deal with a defined price per gallon! Take care, Chuck Phoenix ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
'Forgot to attach photos; 'did it coupla minutes later, so they're coming. Vac'll get the clip; 'don't need it now; box is installed, and car is running. Just drove car around the block few minutes ago. 'Only problem I noticed so far: brake, brake pads and washer resevoir lights not coming on in test mode - when switch is turned on. Lamp out light comes on coupla minutes later - bulbs either blown or loose - likely loose; forgot to check 'em for security before I inserted inst cluster. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy Wilton Strickland wrote: Here are a coupla post op photos of interior. Where? my thumb slipped, and clip went flying; 'heard it hit the carpet (real Persian rug) somewhere behind me. Get yourself a magnet and sweep the rug with it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/722776986.html Some interesting looking cars on here. I would guess none of them run and a few are just piles of rust. No affiliation. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
'Drove the 126 coupla miles this morning. Tac went to 0 for minute or so again; all other instruments remained normal. So is this an overvolt relay prob? BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. So is there a prob with the relay, or is it doing what it's supposed to do, and the prob is somewhere else? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
Oh gosh! 'Coupla Corvairs; coupla Karman Ghias - one of 'em a convertible! Wilton - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/722776986.html Some interesting looking cars on here. I would guess none of them run and a few are just piles of rust. No affiliation. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] incredible service from Rusty
Yesterday, I placed an order for a vacuum pump repair kit and gasket for my 300D, and a gearshift repair kit for my VW Vanagon. The parts arrived TODAY via UPS. Just amazing. Thanks. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: suing government
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My grandmother's doctors in practice together were Drs. Cuthoff and Payne. We have a Dr. Slaughter in our local hospital ER. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh gosh! 'Coupla Corvairs; coupla Karman Ghias - one of 'em a convertible! And two green Mustangs. What's that first pic, a Studebaker Hawk? I'm not sure, but there may be two BeeEmVays there. There's a blue 1602/2002 (probably 2002) but what's this thing next to the orange Ghia? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433763 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
Next to the orange Ghia? 'Bout a '74 Bimmer, isn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh gosh! 'Coupla Corvairs; coupla Karman Ghias - one of 'em a convertible! And two green Mustangs. What's that first pic, a Studebaker Hawk? I'm not sure, but there may be two BeeEmVays there. There's a blue 1602/2002 (probably 2002) but what's this thing next to the orange Ghia? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433763 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
'Looks like about a '39 or '40 Ford pickup on far side of the orange Ghia. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh gosh! 'Coupla Corvairs; coupla Karman Ghias - one of 'em a convertible! And two green Mustangs. What's that first pic, a Studebaker Hawk? I'm not sure, but there may be two BeeEmVays there. There's a blue 1602/2002 (probably 2002) but what's this thing next to the orange Ghia? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433763 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] incredible service from Rusty
several days ago I asked for prices on a list of parts, still have not got that info. Allan Streib wrote: Yesterday, I placed an order for a vacuum pump repair kit and gasket for my 300D, and a gearshift repair kit for my VW Vanagon. The parts arrived TODAY via UPS. Just amazing. Thanks. Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 124 evapectomy
Forgot to attach photos - oops. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy Here are a coupla post op photos of interior. Still to do: Hook up water and Freon pipes and RR dryer and compressor manifold. 'Had only one little mishap that I know of so far: When I was trying to press one of the little spring clips (~1/2 X 1/4) back in place on outside of the evap/heat exchanger box, my thumb slipped, and clip went flying; 'heard it hit the carpet (real Persian rug) somewhere behind me. 'Looked for it quite a while, but the color patterns on the rug make it hard to find little things like that. Sometimes it helps to lay a flashlight down on the rug and sweep it slowly back and forth like a RADAR beam to be able to find something like that, but no luck this time. 'Probably find it when I hear it in the vacuum cleaner hose. 'Used a tie-wrap/zip-tie in place of the clip. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: postop1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 249408 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080617/936f3e6a/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: postop2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 207265 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080617/936f3e6a/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
I was wondering if that might be another 1602 or 2002, when did they change the tail lights, 1975? Certainly older than that. The orange Ghia looks pretty promising, certainly more solid than most of the cars depicted. Do you think this first picture is a Stude? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433759 Wilton Strickland wrote: Next to the orange Ghia? 'Bout a '74 Bimmer, isn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh gosh! 'Coupla Corvairs; coupla Karman Ghias - one of 'em a convertible! And two green Mustangs. What's that first pic, a Studebaker Hawk? I'm not sure, but there may be two BeeEmVays there. There's a blue 1602/2002 (probably 2002) but what's this thing next to the orange Ghia? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433763 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1000SEL-1985-Mercedes-1000SEL-Rare-Import_W0QQitemZ190230523901QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
Looks more like a Valiant to me...definitely NOT a Studebaker Hawk. There's one in my neighbourhood. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
On 17/06/2008, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks more like a Valiant to me...definitely NOT a Studebaker Hawk. There's one in my neighbourhood. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
The first photo is a Volvo P1800. (As driven by The Saint) Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL
I have never heard of a 1000SEL, can not tell a difference between it and a 560SEL. Looks like odometer is in miles, which I did not think they changed on gray market cars. Not sure about the temperature gauge as it is broken. Also I did not think they changed wheels and headlights on the W126 until 86 or 87. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:33 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1000SEL-1985-Mercedes-1000SEL-R are-Import_W0QQitemZ190230523901QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it does on my 87SDL. That is the limit of my knowledge. I'm hoping others will chime in to paint the bigger picture and fill in the details. I am curious why the overvoltage relay needs a tach signal and what it does with it. Thanks -Dave Walton On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Drove the 126 coupla miles this morning. Tac went to 0 for minute or so again; all other instruments remained normal. So is this an overvolt relay prob? BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. So is there a prob with the relay, or is it doing what it's supposed to do, and the prob is somewhere else? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL
there is no 1000SEL, those are novelty badges they used to sell in the 80's Trampas wrote: I have never heard of a 1000SEL, can not tell a difference between it and a 560SEL. Looks like odometer is in miles, which I did not think they changed on gray market cars. Not sure about the temperature gauge as it is broken. Also I did not think they changed wheels and headlights on the W126 until 86 or 87. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:33 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1000SEL-1985-Mercedes-1000SEL-R are-Import_W0QQitemZ190230523901QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. Exactly. As power to many of the more electronically-filled items goes _through_ the OVP relay, and as the OVP gets flakey inside, you can have problems with any/all of these subsystems. When the OVP actually does its job it blows the fuse that's on top of it. Nothing subtle about it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale
That's a Volvo, isn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale I was wondering if that might be another 1602 or 2002, when did they change the tail lights, 1975? Certainly older than that. The orange Ghia looks pretty promising, certainly more solid than most of the cars depicted. Do you think this first picture is a Stude? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433759 Wilton Strickland wrote: Next to the orange Ghia? 'Bout a '74 Bimmer, isn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hey Look! A bunch of junky cars for sale Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh gosh! 'Coupla Corvairs; coupla Karman Ghias - one of 'em a convertible! And two green Mustangs. What's that first pic, a Studebaker Hawk? I'm not sure, but there may be two BeeEmVays there. There's a blue 1602/2002 (probably 2002) but what's this thing next to the orange Ghia? http://www.myeasypics.com/pf.window.php?i=433763 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
A brief failure of power-steering input would produce an effect similar to a momentary lock-up. 'Hesitation' is a more ambiguous term for the phenomenon. Unless you've actually experienced a steering lockup. Then you wouldn't be confusing the terms at all. Without power assist a PS steering system will still let you steer, but with a lot more effort. With a lockup, you can't. And you could well die as a result. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] vacuum pump assembly question
So -- I took my vacuum pump apart to install the repair kit parts. In the main pump body there is a brass adapter for the connection of the vacuum line. Behind or in this adapter seems to be some kind of check valve mechanism. I have three parts that came out of the bore where that adapter threads in. A small disc with three little tabs spaced equally around the perimiter, a small spring, and a small piston-like piece. I can't see any way to reinsert these and have them stay in place. They seemed to just be sort of loose in there when I took the pump apart but that sure does not seem right. Can anyone describe the correct order of assembly of these pieces? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL
Ah, that makes sense now. I was wondering how a W126 model could have slipped past me... Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL there is no 1000SEL, those are novelty badges they used to sell in the 80's Trampas wrote: I have never heard of a 1000SEL, can not tell a difference between it and a 560SEL. Looks like odometer is in miles, which I did not think they changed on gray market cars. Not sure about the temperature gauge as it is broken. Also I did not think they changed wheels and headlights on the W126 until 86 or 87. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:33 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] ahh the 1000SEL http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-1000SEL-1985-Mercedes-1000SEL-R are-Import_W0QQitemZ190230523901QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. Exactly. As power to many of the more electronically-filled items goes _through_ the OVP relay, and as the OVP gets flakey inside, you can have problems with any/all of these subsystems. When the OVP actually does its job it blows the fuse that's on top of it. Nothing subtle about it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
think I told you that several days ago Wilton Strickland wrote: So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. Exactly. As power to many of the more electronically-filled items goes _through_ the OVP relay, and as the OVP gets flakey inside, you can have problems with any/all of these subsystems. When the OVP actually does its job it blows the fuse that's on top of it. Nothing subtle about it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it does on my 87SDL. That is the limit of my knowledge. I'm hoping others will chime in to paint the bigger picture and fill in the details. I am curious why the overvoltage relay needs a tach signal and what it does with it. It doesn't use it at all. But the (expensive) electronics involved with the tach signal are powered through the OVP. Inside the typical OVP relay (such as found on Ethelred, the 380SL) is the expected relay, a heat-sinked power Zener diode, and a resistor. That's it. And a fuse on top. And, occasionally, crystallizing solder joints. That particular relay will blow its fuse at 25 volts. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Maybe. It's certainly a prime suspect, if other things (such as ABS and the airbag system) are also acting up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
BTW, I've read a coupla reports that the ducts on each side of the center console were very hard to RR. I found them very EASY to do. Each is held by 2 screws - one on the floor about midway the duct, the other on top of the duct under front edge of seat. Remove those 2 screws and pull up on the end of the duct under front edge of the seat, and duct detaches from the section of duct under seat. Then unplug top end of duct from evap box. On re-installation, plug top end of duct into evap box, and push/jiggle rear end of the duct downward back into place (meshed) with duct under front edge of seat and re-install the 2 screws. Ya don't need to loosen the duct under the seat. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering lock-ups - latest update
Jim typed: Unless you've actually experienced a steering lockup. Then you wouldn't be confusing the terms at all. Amen. It feels very odd when it happens. I'm just glad I'm not going very fast at all. It's like it hits a stop, then releases. Something to do with that crazy super wham-o-dyne brake system? Bob R.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum pump assembly question
Allan Streib wrote: So -- I took my vacuum pump apart to install the repair kit parts. In the main pump body there is a brass adapter for the connection of the vacuum line. Behind or in this adapter seems to be some kind of check valve mechanism. I have three parts that came out of the bore where that adapter threads in. A small disc with three little tabs spaced equally around the perimiter, a small spring, and a small piston-like piece. I can't see any way to reinsert these and have them stay in place. They seemed to just be sort of loose in there when I took the pump apart but that sure does not seem right. Can anyone describe the correct order of assembly of these pieces? It has been a year or three since I rebuilt my vacuum pump, but it sounds like a fallen-apart check valve? Didn't the kit come with new valves? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Yes, you did, Kalib, and I thank you, but that was before I KNEW that all other instruments were indicating normal. 'Just trying to confirm and understand a little better what the unit is supposed to do. Thanks, again. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac think I told you that several days ago Wilton Strickland wrote: So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. Exactly. As power to many of the more electronically-filled items goes _through_ the OVP relay, and as the OVP gets flakey inside, you can have problems with any/all of these subsystems. When the OVP actually does its job it blows the fuse that's on top of it. Nothing subtle about it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Kaleb, I just noticed I spelled your name with an i. 'Sorry. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
If it helps - when my overvoltage relay was acting up the tach went to zero and the ABS light came on. Other than that things were normal. -Dave Walton On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it does on my 87SDL. That is the limit of my knowledge. I'm hoping others will chime in to paint the bigger picture and fill in the details. I am curious why the overvoltage relay needs a tach signal and what it does with it. It doesn't use it at all. But the (expensive) electronics involved with the tach signal are powered through the OVP. Inside the typical OVP relay (such as found on Ethelred, the 380SL) is the expected relay, a heat-sinked power Zener diode, and a resistor. That's it. And a fuse on top. And, occasionally, crystallizing solder joints. That particular relay will blow its fuse at 25 volts. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum pump assembly question
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Re: [MBZ] vacuum pump assembly question
Hm, that was supposed to have the following text as well tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has been a year or three since I rebuilt my vacuum pump, but it sounds like a fallen-apart check valve? Didn't the kit come with new valves? The old valves are all intact. These parts came out of the bore where the threaded adapter for the main vacuum line attachment is. I've attached a picture, sorry for the lousy quality but a cell phone is all I have at the moment. Allan A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0617082155.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 29703 bytes Desc: parts Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080617/e05999d3/attachment.jpg -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Oh - one more thing.. The idle speed changed when it kicked in or out. Don't recall which was a higher rpm. If you were stopped at a light with the brake on when it changed, you could feel the car hunkering down or releasing a bit as the engine put more or less umph to the transmission. HTH -Dave Walton On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:54 PM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it helps - when my overvoltage relay was acting up the tach went to zero and the ABS light came on. Other than that things were normal. -Dave Walton On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it does on my 87SDL. That is the limit of my knowledge. I'm hoping others will chime in to paint the bigger picture and fill in the details. I am curious why the overvoltage relay needs a tach signal and what it does with it. It doesn't use it at all. But the (expensive) electronics involved with the tach signal are powered through the OVP. Inside the typical OVP relay (such as found on Ethelred, the 380SL) is the expected relay, a heat-sinked power Zener diode, and a resistor. That's it. And a fuse on top. And, occasionally, crystallizing solder joints. That particular relay will blow its fuse at 25 volts. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum pump assembly question
Well this photo from Rusty's catalog seems to show that little three-tabbed disc inside the body of the adapter... http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/D301225391OES.JPG Guess somehow mine came apart. I'll see if I can get it back together. Perhaps this was really my problem all along Allan Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hm, that was supposed to have the following text as well tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has been a year or three since I rebuilt my vacuum pump, but it sounds like a fallen-apart check valve? Didn't the kit come with new valves? The old valves are all intact. These parts came out of the bore where the threaded adapter for the main vacuum line attachment is. I've attached a picture, sorry for the lousy quality but a cell phone is all I have at the moment. Allan A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0617082155.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 29703 bytes Desc: parts Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080617/e05999d3/attachment.jpg -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac
Oh - one more thing.. The idle speed changed when it kicked in or out. Don't recall which was a higher rpm. It would have gone higher during the malfunction. The car's set to idle very high as a fail-safe, and the idle control system (powered through the OVP) drags it down to where it should be. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What would you do if diesel/gas cost $10/g
Bill, all you have to do is get a chicken and it will eat the bugs. As for getting the rabbits, the only really quiet way in a neighborhood is to use live traps and then tell people that you are releasing them in the country. Manfred Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:05:08 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Manfred - If you can do it quietly and while my granddaughter is in Alaska you are welcome to the ones around here. Next door neighbor is growing a small farm in his front yard and the rabbits love it. I fenced them away from my grapes, but now the bugs are getting them. Maybe we could engineer a rabbit to eat bugs... BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
