Re: [MBZ] Who Are the Bike Guys?

[TE]

Get a Ducati

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Robert Rentfro wrote:
> Is this good? No pic's sadly.
> 
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> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/bik/

Did you have a particular bike in mind?


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Bill R]

Thanks for the info on bones.  I just picked up the no bones things from a
flyer in the Vet office.  The cooked / raw thing makes sense.
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:55:41 -0400 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> i'd fire my vet if she said "no" to bones.  bones rawk the dog world!

My understanding is that raw bones are fine; cooked (baked) bones are not
and are rather abrasive.

There is a canine diet called BARF: bones and raw food. Several of the
people in our local Schutzhund club use that diet.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes

[Gary Hurst]

i am convinced now that most of america is essentially disenfranchised in
that our leaders have no clue we exist and would be appalled if they did.
guys like obama have no clue about rural america, particularly the rural
south.  these people just don't count for anything in new york city or
washington, DC.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Kris Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>   Obama says on page 215 of his _Audacity of Hope_ book "I
> believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and our leaders must
> say so in the face of the gun manufacturers' lobby."  I guess this is
> the standard urban liberal view.  He appears to have voted for
> restrictive gun laws at every opportunity.
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>  Obama's extreme urbanity troubles me.  I have read both his
> books and I can't remember any instances of him doing anything
> practical or enjoying the outdoors.  No gardening, hiking, hunting,
> fishing, cycling, building, mowing,  boating.or biking.  No interest
> in  machinery.  He plays basketball, that most urban of sports.
>
>  I suspect he understands less about others than he thinks he
> does.  His stereotypes can be awkward.  For example, here is an
> excerpt from his Values chapter in _Audacity of Hope_, page 57:
>
>  "..our democracy might work a bit better if we recognized that
> all of us possess values worthy of respect: if liberals at least
> acknowledged that the recreational hunter feels the same way about
> his gun as they feel about their library books, and if conservatives
> recognized that most women feel as protective of their right to
> reproductive freedom as evangelicals do of their right to worship."
>
> Gaak.  In real life there are many hunters who use libraries and
> liberals (or at least Democrats) that don't but do hunt.  These are
> not contrasting groups/values.  IMHO he is just showing his ignorance
> of people unlike himself. He doesn't say exactly what "reproductive
> freedom " for women amounts to although I gather free abortion is a
> big part of it.  To him conservatives always are hung up on the most
> narrow sort of religion.
>
>  Obama champions an activist government.  I am sure he will want
> glorious new programs for the urban poor.
>
>  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
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>  He was the kind that can't keep from being bad without being good.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Gary Hurst]

raw bones are great.  cooked bones are strictly verboten.

i would do something along the lines of BARF if i weren't too lazy

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:00 AM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:55:41 -0400 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > i'd fire my vet if she said "no" to bones.  bones rawk the dog world!
>
> My understanding is that raw bones are fine; cooked (baked) bones are not
> and are rather abrasive.
>
> There is a canine diet called BARF: bones and raw food. Several of the
> people in our local Schutzhund club use that diet.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:55:41 -0400 "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> i'd fire my vet if she said "no" to bones.  bones rawk the dog world!

My understanding is that raw bones are fine; cooked (baked) bones are not
and are rather abrasive.

There is a canine diet called BARF: bones and raw food. Several of the
people in our local Schutzhund club use that diet.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Gary Hurst]

my dogs have never had a problem with mixed kibbles.  sometimes they will
even eat the odd rabbit or squirrel with no ill effect either.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At the suggestion of my Vet {Actually Bentley's Vet, she's my 13 year
> old English Bulldog}, she eats WallyWorlds Brand Lamb & Rice, AND THAT
> ALL.
> Dogs do not tolerate mixing their foods, and defiantly do nothing but
> get sick on people food.
> English Bull's life expectancy is 10 years, they are very expensive.
> It works for me.
> Pete
>
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>
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:51:17 -0600, you wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag
> >> of that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn
> >> meal which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I
> >> can get at the grocery store or Petco please.
> >
> >Forget the grocery store. What does Petco carry?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Gary Hurst]

i'd fire my vet if she said "no" to bones.  bones rawk the dog world!

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AS to dog foods I don't have any suggestion other than Eukanuba puppy,
> which
> we fed our Yellow Lab for two years at the suggestion of our vet.  I would
> want to mention that dogs seem to love fruits and veggies - but do not give
> mushrooms, grapes/raisins or chocolate, and I think onions are in the
> banned
> list also.  Could be they just give them gas [that is reason enough for an
> indoor dog].  Our vet says no to bones [but we still give them to him on
> occasion] and he gets scraps of most veggies during preparation.  About the
> only thing he doesn't like is celery.  Loves leftover salads.
> BillR
> Jacksonville FL
> 105# 3 YO Yellow Lab 'Jax' [a wonderful dog]
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:21 PM
> To: Diesel List
> Subject: [MBZ] OT: New dog
>
> I know theres lots of dog folks on here...
>
> Got our first (well my first, my wife had a dog before) dog today. He's a
> corgi, dachshound, bassett hound and probably something else mix. You can
> definately see the corgi in him but he's black which I didn't think was a
> normal corgi color.
> He's a rescue dog brought up from Arkansas from a high kill shelter. His
> litter mates had all been adopted but apparently black dogs (he's one of
> two
> black dogs in the litter) are harder to adopt out.
> They said he's about 3 months old but some of the paperwork indicates he
> might be as much as 6 months. The name he came with was Feisty but he
> didn't
> seem particularly enamored of it and answers more readily to Buster so
> we're
> gonna stick with that.
>
> We just got back in from his first pee, its odd, he's pooped 3 times but
> never pee'd. When he did it was like the flood gates were opening!
>
> I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag of
> that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn meal
> which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I can get
> at the grocery store or Petco please.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Gary Hurst]

at petco, the fat man buys products from "solid gold."  my general
preference is for innova as a brand (made by a company that calls itself
natura) but not innova evo.  the german really tends toward flatulence and
the regular innova seems to do a good job keeping that under control, which
is especially important as i often sleep with dogs.  innova manufactures
their own dry food and farms out the wet food.  solid gold makes nothing
themselves other than the formulations.  innova has also come out and stated
they will not use any food sourced from china in their product.

my main source for propaganda is

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/

my thought is that you should not hesitate using a 4 star or better food
that fits in with your own personal philosophy.  their view seems to be that
dog's are straight meat only beats and therefore anything with grains gets
downgraded.  like professional bodybuilders, they love protein and hate
carbs.  if you personally believe in a more balanced diet, you can use a
higher carb lower protein food as i do.  but you still want your carb
sources to be quality sources such as brown rice and barley instead of corn
and beet filler crap.  i mean, that's just common sense, no?  if you stick
to a 4 star plus food, you can be assured of finding a food you can believe
in and one that is widely enough distributed so you can get it without
hassle.

the other thing i tend to like to look for is human quality ingredients.  if
something is banned for human consumption or would not be fed in some form
to humans, i'm not giving it to the dogs.  also, consider feeding your dog
some fresh bones as well.  some people feed nothing but fresh foods but most
rely in kibble as the primary source of nutrition.  i get a lot of pig tails
for my dogs as well as those big marrow filled bones from the butcher.  many
feed their dogs whole chickens.  dogs eat raw bones.  however, do not every
give your dog any sort of cooked bones as these splinter and are very
dangerous.  also, avoid rawhide bones as dogs do not digest rawhide.

y'know, there are people out there who live into their 80s on a steady diet
of mcdonalds and marlboros and are never sick a day in their lives.  and
there are people who treat their bodies as holy temple and drop dead at 40
after a lifetime of illness.  this demonstrates nothing other than that
within a complex living organism you can get a lot of different outcomes
from the same inputs.  keith richards has consumed enough drugs to have
killed nearly anyone, yet he survives and rocks on.  this does not mean that
shooting heroin is something that is good for you.

if you can read the ingredients in science diet or iams and say "hey, i
really can believe in this", go ahead and use it and be happy with it.  i
hope if you do you get the finest results with your animal and laugh at my
recommendations to you.  however, i can't really believe in it, so i don't
use it.  i use innova, solid gold and, of course, dick van patten stuff when
i can get it on the cheap.  basically, i'll use any 4 star or better food
that is in about the 25% protein range if i can get a good price on it,
generally mixing it with the standard innova formulation.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I know theres lots of dog folks on here...
>
> Got our first (well my first, my wife had a dog before) dog today. He's a
> corgi, dachshound, bassett hound and probably something else mix. You can
> definately see the corgi in him but he's black which I didn't think was a
> normal corgi color.
> He's a rescue dog brought up from Arkansas from a high kill shelter. His
> litter mates had all been adopted but apparently black dogs (he's one of two
> black dogs in the litter) are harder to adopt out.
> They said he's about 3 months old but some of the paperwork indicates he
> might be as much as 6 months. The name he came with was Feisty but he didn't
> seem particularly enamored of it and answers more readily to Buster so we're
> gonna stick with that.
>
> We just got back in from his first pee, its odd, he's pooped 3 times but
> never pee'd. When he did it was like the flood gates were opening!
>
> I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag of
> that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn meal
> which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I can get
> at the grocery store or Petco please.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[Peter Frederick]

If the rods are bent, the cylinder will be out of round and the  
pistons will clank horribly.  You will have terrible blowby (chuffing  
like a locomotive!) along with very high oil consumption.

You will have none of these symptoms with a bad turbo seal, just low  
power from low boost and too much oil in the intake.  Blowby will be  
normal.

If it also leaks into the exhaust, you will get some amount of blue  
smoke as the oil isn't being burned completely, along with a strong  
smell of burning oil.  This can be amazing.  You will also run the  
risk of the exhaust catching fire on the highway from the accumulated  
soot, especially after you replace the turbo.  I had this happen in  
the Volvo on a night trip -- quite a sight, blowing thumb sized  
burning carbon out the tailpipe after each up grade on the highway --  
high boost for the climb caught the carbon on fire, and when the  
pedal lifted on the downslope, the burst of oxygen in the air now  
passing through the engine would cause chunks to break free and fly out.

Had to replace the exhaust, all the seams opened up.  Had half an  
inch of sticky soot and coked oil in it all the way back.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber

[Peter Frederick]

Yup.  You MUST jack the wheel carrier to the normal position.  The  
rubber in the links acts are part of the spring, and if you tighten  
them up with the wheel at full extension, they pull it out of place  
when you put the weight of the car on them. The wheel is too far  
forward and canted in at the top, looks quite strange next to one  
with the links properly installed.

Jack it up again, remove the wheels, loosen ALL the bolts (both ends)  
enough that the sleeve in the center of the rubber will move freely,  
jack the spring link up to the normal level height, and tighten all  
the bolts.

It will handle better and ride better once you do this.

Also, do not replace the links with the cheapo aftermarket ones  
without the rubber vulcanized in place around the sleeve, the car  
will sit too low and give you excessive negative camber, too.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:04:42 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If it was a bent rod, I wouldnt think it would dump oil in the intake
> would it?

That would be my first thought if you're not getting a pressurized
crankcase.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Front Sight

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:37:27 -0600 "Bill Hynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Does anyone have any familiarity with Front Sight? The currently have an
> offer which falls under the to go to be true category, especially
> considering their legal problem. 

What legal problem?



> Before I commit $1500.00, I would appreciate some insight.

That's very understandable.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb?

[Wonko the Sane]

I didn't know that Harley sold grills. Must have been expensive.   :-)

(Yea, I know -- Home Depot -- but Harley sort of has a copyright on HD. )

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Rolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is the letter I sent to CS @ NEXGRILL. If you bought a stainless
> steel grill at HD in the last 3 years, chances are you have a ticking
> time bomb. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the following @ Consumer Affairs :
> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/charmglow.html
>
> --
>
> I purchased an 810 2320 B from HD 3 years ago. It died last week and it
> is a good thing it did. I bought a regulator and hose from a nearby
> Lowes on the wild guess that both of the tanks I had just purchased were
> not duds. In the process of replacing the old one I have inspected the
> hose and it looks like I have a ticking time bomb out in my carport. The
> hose from the regulator to the burners is frayed where it crosses over
> the side wall on the grill and the joint from the quick connect to the
> regulator leaks propane out right under the burners. I would like to
> know what is going to be done about this. From what I have read @
> consumer affairs and other places these are all ticking time bombs. It
> enough to make me want to go back to $30 charcoal grills from Kroger.
> Atleast that one didn't put my daughters at risk or rust out on me. The
> stainless steel cover is rusting, the grill is rusted, the burners are
> all rusted and the connecting tubes are heavily rusted as well. The nut
> inside the leg that the wheel screws into is broken and I cannot
> reconnect the wheel.
>
> My serial number is 2320 05013025698. When I first purchased this grill
> I was extremely happy with my purchase and spoke highly of it to my
> friends. Now I want to know how it is worth in scrap. I spend most of my
> time grilling with my family including my young daughters near the grill
> and the realization of what could have happened because of this frayed
> hose is daunting.
>
>
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>
> I am calling HD Monday and requesting that they refund me my money. Its
> time to go back to charcoal.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Its interesting they say no grapes. Years ago a friend had a Golden that
> we fed tons of grapes to, it was fun to watch her chasing a grape all
> over the place. That dog lived to a ripe old age...

It's something new as of the last couple of years. I recall 30 years ago
giving a German Shepherd Dog puppy a grape and watching her roll it around
on the floor with her nose before she figured out what it was ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[Jim Cathey]

> I dont have any blowby at all.  If it was bent rod, I would think the
> oil would burn there rather than blowing into the intake etc.  My
> thought anyway which makes me think leaking turbo

I concur, to a point.  Ovaled cylinders also increase blowby,
which would blow more oil vapor into the recycling path.  But
the most direct source is the turbo.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] '95 SL500 Top Goes Up Half Way And Stops

[Jim Cathey]

> When I put up the top on my SL500 it stops half way up and then the 
> light on
> the button starts blinking. Has anyone seen this type of problem 
> before?

The button is connected to the dealer's bank account.  When it's
low, the thing lights up and stops the roof mid-cycle.

Or so I hear.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I dont have any blowby at all.  If it was bent rod, I would think the 
oil would burn there rather than blowing into the intake etc.  My 
thought anyway which makes me think leaking turbo

OK Don wrote:
> Just thinking about the issue, having not had any real experience
> here, and probably not thinking very clearly at this hour, here goes:
> The bent rods cause the pistons/rings to wear the cylinders into an
> oblong shape. This prevents the rings from sealing, therefore allowing
> oil into the cylinders, where it burns, perhaps partially, making
> smoke; and allows combustion gas into the case, causing blow-by. if
> the case is vented into the intake, oil should appear there. Bottom
> line - oil everywhere?
> 
>>> OK, so if you had bend rods and were using alot of oil, would you expect
>>> alot of oil junk in the intake and/or plugging up the lines to the ALDA
>>> quite often, or would you expect lots of oil in the intake to be from
>>> something like a turbo that is leaking oil?  Does this even make sense
>>> to anyone?
> 

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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well, my 92 does burn some oil, which you can also smell if you are 
standing outside of it.  I have not taken off the crossover pipe but I 
do know my ALDA lines get plugged up quite often.  I know one guy on the 
list had a new mb engine put in his but it turned out it was just the 
turbo.  So I got to thinking that maybe I have a turbo problem since I 
seem to have alot of intake oil.  If it was a bent rod, I wouldnt think 
it would dump oil in the intake would it?

dave walton wrote:
> In my case, it was the turbo leaking oil into the intake manifold. So
> much that you would take off the crossover pipe and get maybe 1/8 cup
> of oil dripping out of it. I bought a new cartridge off eBay for
> something like $100 with shipping. But it took a few months before one
> turned up. I suspect you would get some additional crud buildup from
> the EGR as well, but not liquid oil. It would have been burned once.
> 
> -Dave Walton
> 
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> OK, so if you had bend rods and were using alot of oil, would you expect
>> alot of oil junk in the intake and/or plugging up the lines to the ALDA
>> quite often, or would you expect lots of oil in the intake to be from
>> something like a turbo that is leaking oil?  Does this even make sense
>> to anyone?
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>>  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] '95 SL500 Top Goes Up Half Way And Stops

[John Freer]

Paul,
Are both the windows completely down?

There are some other explanations in the owners manual as well.

It also shows you how to complete the operation by hand.


On 6/28/08, Paul Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I put up the top on my SL500 it stops half way up and then the light on
> the button starts blinking. Has anyone seen this type of problem before?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[OK Don]

Just thinking about the issue, having not had any real experience
here, and probably not thinking very clearly at this hour, here goes:
The bent rods cause the pistons/rings to wear the cylinders into an
oblong shape. This prevents the rings from sealing, therefore allowing
oil into the cylinders, where it burns, perhaps partially, making
smoke; and allows combustion gas into the case, causing blow-by. if
the case is vented into the intake, oil should appear there. Bottom
line - oil everywhere?

>> OK, so if you had bend rods and were using alot of oil, would you expect
>> alot of oil junk in the intake and/or plugging up the lines to the ALDA
>> quite often, or would you expect lots of oil in the intake to be from
>> something like a turbo that is leaking oil?  Does this even make sense
>> to anyone?

-- 
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
'90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go)

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[MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb?

[Rolf]

This is the letter I sent to CS @ NEXGRILL. If you bought a stainless 
steel grill at HD in the last 3 years, chances are you have a ticking 
time bomb. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the following @ Consumer Affairs : 
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/charmglow.html

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I purchased an 810 2320 B from HD 3 years ago. It died last week and it 
is a good thing it did. I bought a regulator and hose from a nearby 
Lowes on the wild guess that both of the tanks I had just purchased were 
not duds. In the process of replacing the old one I have inspected the 
hose and it looks like I have a ticking time bomb out in my carport. The 
hose from the regulator to the burners is frayed where it crosses over 
the side wall on the grill and the joint from the quick connect to the 
regulator leaks propane out right under the burners. I would like to 
know what is going to be done about this. From what I have read @ 
consumer affairs and other places these are all ticking time bombs. It 
enough to make me want to go back to $30 charcoal grills from Kroger. 
Atleast that one didn't put my daughters at risk or rust out on me. The 
stainless steel cover is rusting, the grill is rusted, the burners are 
all rusted and the connecting tubes are heavily rusted as well. The nut 
inside the leg that the wheel screws into is broken and I cannot 
reconnect the wheel.

My serial number is 2320 05013025698. When I first purchased this grill 
I was extremely happy with my purchase and spoke highly of it to my 
friends. Now I want to know how it is worth in scrap. I spend most of my 
time grilling with my family including my young daughters near the grill 
and the realization of what could have happened because of this frayed 
hose is daunting.


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I am calling HD Monday and requesting that they refund me my money. Its 
time to go back to charcoal.

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[MBZ] Chain tensioner spring

[Archer]

When replacing the spring on a chain tensioner on an '83 300D, I see a plate 
and a big hex headed plug of some sort.  Can you replace the chain tensioner 
spring by removing the hex headed plug or do you have to remove the plate? 
Couldn't find anything about replacing the chain on the CD.
Thanks,
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT Front Sight

[Mitch Haley]

Bill Hynes wrote:
> Does anyone have any familiarity with Front Sight? The currently have an 
> offer which falls under the to go to be true category, especially considering 
> their legal problem. Before I commit $1500.00, I would appreciate some 
> insight.
> 

This sounds almost too good to be true, a free Springfield XD would be nice.
https://www.frontsight.com/free-gun.asp

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Re: [MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[dave walton]

In my case, it was the turbo leaking oil into the intake manifold. So
much that you would take off the crossover pipe and get maybe 1/8 cup
of oil dripping out of it. I bought a new cartridge off eBay for
something like $100 with shipping. But it took a few months before one
turned up. I suspect you would get some additional crud buildup from
the EGR as well, but not liquid oil. It would have been burned once.

-Dave Walton

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, so if you had bend rods and were using alot of oil, would you expect
> alot of oil junk in the intake and/or plugging up the lines to the ALDA
> quite often, or would you expect lots of oil in the intake to be from
> something like a turbo that is leaking oil?  Does this even make sense
> to anyone?
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL,
>  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
> http://www.okiebenz.com
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[MBZ] thinking aloud about bent rods

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

OK, so if you had bend rods and were using alot of oil, would you expect 
alot of oil junk in the intake and/or plugging up the lines to the ALDA 
quite often, or would you expect lots of oil in the intake to be from 
something like a turbo that is leaking oil?  Does this even make sense 
to anyone?
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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Redghost]

yes, the land of the liberal yellow belly asexual granola eating  
vegan in synth-wool, since it is mean to take a sheep's fuzz

clay

On 28 Jun 2008, at 18:16, Craig McCluskey wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:10:39 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>> Never know.  Mayor is attempting to ban handguns on city property
>> (parks, venues, city hall) We will see how far he gets.
>
> Seattle?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT Front Sight

[Bill Hynes]

Does anyone have any familiarity with Front Sight? The currently have an offer 
which falls under the to go to be true category, especially considering their 
legal problem. Before I commit $1500.00, I would appreciate some insight.

TIA

Back under my rock.

Bill Hynes
1991 300E
1992 300E $matic.
  


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Re: [MBZ] '95 SL500 Top Goes Up Half Way And Stops

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You might want to ask over on the SL list as well.

Paul Nelson wrote:
> When I put up the top on my SL500 it stops half way up and then the light on
> the button starts blinking. Has anyone seen this type of problem before?
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
>  
> 
> '95 SL500
> 
> '85 380SL
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Curt Raymond]

Its interesting they say no grapes. Years ago a friend had a Golden that we fed 
tons of grapes to, it was fun to watch her chasing a grape all over the place. 
That dog lived to a ripe old age...

-Curt

--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT: New dog
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:09 PM

AS to dog foods I don't have any suggestion other than Eukanuba puppy, which
we fed our Yellow Lab for two years at the suggestion of our vet.  I would
want to mention that dogs seem to love fruits and veggies - but do not give
mushrooms, grapes/raisins or chocolate, and I think onions are in the banned
list also.  Could be they just give them gas [that is reason enough for an
indoor dog].  Our vet says no to bones [but we still give them to him on
occasion] and he gets scraps of most veggies during preparation.  About the
only thing he doesn't like is celery.  Loves leftover salads.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
105# 3 YO Yellow Lab 'Jax' [a wonderful dog]

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:21 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: New dog

I know theres lots of dog folks on here...

Got our first (well my first, my wife had a dog before) dog today. He's a
corgi, dachshound, bassett hound and probably something else mix. You can
definately see the corgi in him but he's black which I didn't think was
a
normal corgi color.
He's a rescue dog brought up from Arkansas from a high kill shelter. His
litter mates had all been adopted but apparently black dogs (he's one of
two
black dogs in the litter) are harder to adopt out.
They said he's about 3 months old but some of the paperwork indicates he
might be as much as 6 months. The name he came with was Feisty but he
didn't
seem particularly enamored of it and answers more readily to Buster so
we're
gonna stick with that.

We just got back in from his first pee, its odd, he's pooped 3 times but
never pee'd. When he did it was like the flood gates were opening!

I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag of
that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn meal
which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I can get
at the grocery store or Petco please.

-Curt



  
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[MBZ] '95 SL500 Top Goes Up Half Way And Stops

[Paul Nelson]

When I put up the top on my SL500 it stops half way up and then the light on
the button starts blinking. Has anyone seen this type of problem before?

 

Paul

 

'95 SL500

'85 380SL

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Redghost]

Close...

it is not a direct ban, the language is sufficiently loose that if  
you were to walk down the streets of Seattle with a handgun in a hip  
holster, I suspect that you would be arrested under this statute,  
which makes it unlawful "for any person to carry, exhibit, display,  
or draw any firearm, dagger, sword, knife or other cutting or  
stabbing instrument, club, or any other weapon apparently capable of  
producing bodily harm, in a manner, under circumstances, and at a  
time and place that either manifests an intent to intimidate another  
or that warrants alarm for the safety of other persons."

This is due to the mess cops got into when they poked holes in the  
man of color with the katana.


On 28 Jun 2008, at 14:10, Jim Cathey wrote:

>> Washington is an open carry state.
>
> Umm, I don't think it is any longer.  It certainly used to
> be, not that many years ago.  But then some bunch of whiners
> around Olympia got their panties in a bunch about somebody
> that carried a rifle in their pickup's gun rack in a 'neighborhood'
> and they got it changed.  I forget just how much it has
> changed, but I'd be careful strapping on a piece if I were you.
>
> I'm sure the offending party now carries it out of sight
> under the seat.  But the hothouse flowers sure feel safer!
>
> Remember, it's about perception not reality!
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:10:39 -0700 Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Never know.  Mayor is attempting to ban handguns on city property  
> (parks, venues, city hall) We will see how far he gets.

Seattle?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Redghost]

Never know.  Mayor is attempting to ban handguns on city property  
(parks, venues, city hall) We will see how far he gets.  There are a  
few odd fish here.  Used to be a fellow walked the streets w/o shirt  
and a hefty broad sword holstered on his back.  Never saw him in  
trouble, just figured he had Conan issues.  As long as you do not  
cause civil upset, you are thought to be fine.

Then there was the man of color with katana who ended up full of  
holes because he was brandishing it, not just wandering about.

clay

On 28 Jun 2008, at 13:53, Gary Hurst wrote:

> just because the law says open carry is ok, doesn't mean they will  
> let you
> do it
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>> Washington is an open carry state.  Figure I should strap up and
>> wander the street to make certain the punk kid gang banger wannabes
>> refrain from wandering my neighborhood with their rattle cans
>>
>> clay
>>
>> Stay off my lawn you damn kids!
>>
>>
>> On 28 Jun 2008, at 06:57, LarryT wrote:
>>
>>> You wrote <>>> Glock on his belt -- off duty>>
>>>
>>> some police departments consider their officers to be on duty 24
>>> hours and
>>> require them to be armed whenever they leave their home.
>>>
>>> Also, you wrote <>> with one
>>> tucked
 into the belt on the way to work>>
>>>
>>> Only people who have been thru extensive background checks can
>>> legally carry
>>> concealed weapons.  As to wearing one on the way to work - we have
>>> no way of
>>> know what situations they must pass thru while travelling to
>>> work.. Some
>>> people (mostly poor) live in places where they are in danger much
>>> of the
>>> time with police never close enough.   Like it or not, some crimes
>>> occur
>>> while travelling to & from work.
>>>
>>> If someone is carrying a weapon legally you have no reason to fear
>>> them -
>>> their rate of criminality is extremely low - something like .001%.
>>>
>>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>>>
>>>
 I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.

 I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
 default
 -- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is  
 fun,
 especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I own none
 now but
 not
 because I think they are evil but because I feel no need for one
 and there
 are no firing ranges around. (I don't like shooting off into the
 cornfield
 randomly.)

 However, I am uncomfortable with having folks walk around with one
 tucked
 into the belt on the way to work. Are you really that insecure and
 scared?

 There is a very young Deputy Sheriff who walks around Jefferson
 with his
 Glock on his belt -- off duty. Even though I know he is a Deputy,
 looks
 sort
 of strange hanging a Glock over his Levis, covered ever so
 slightly by his
 t-shirt. Also wears a leather thing holding his handcuffs. ...
 He's just a
 little (in stature) jerk trying to look like someone important.
 Probably
 has
 some "self esteem" issues at the crotch level. He is the only law
 enforcement guy in town who "packs" off-duty. All I can think when
 I see
 him
 is Barney Fife. Sure hope they don't give him bullets!

 If the place in which you live is so dangerous that you must pack
 heat to
 commute to work, I have a suggestion for you -- MOVE. No matter
 what your
 skill in life, you can find similar work in a crime-free
 environment. This
 is a really big country.

 I'll bet BuyMGParts could be run from Jefferson -- you could buy a
 storefront for less than $100K and rent the apartments on the
 second floor
 to cover your mortgage. But then you'd have to buy a very nice
 house in
 which to live for $100K -- if you want a house with a three car
 garage in
 a
 nice neighborhood. I had to pay $75K w/ a four car garage, but
 that was
 seven years ago. In fact, someone could run the whole thing out of
 his
 house. Economic Development money might even pay for the house.

 On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:22 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I doubt that there is anyway to tell what a politician will do  
> until
> they've already done it.
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> OK Don wrote:
>>> Obama stated support for the ruling today - 

Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Bill R]

AS to dog foods I don't have any suggestion other than Eukanuba puppy, which
we fed our Yellow Lab for two years at the suggestion of our vet.  I would
want to mention that dogs seem to love fruits and veggies - but do not give
mushrooms, grapes/raisins or chocolate, and I think onions are in the banned
list also.  Could be they just give them gas [that is reason enough for an
indoor dog].  Our vet says no to bones [but we still give them to him on
occasion] and he gets scraps of most veggies during preparation.  About the
only thing he doesn't like is celery.  Loves leftover salads.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
105# 3 YO Yellow Lab 'Jax' [a wonderful dog]

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:21 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: New dog

I know theres lots of dog folks on here...

Got our first (well my first, my wife had a dog before) dog today. He's a
corgi, dachshound, bassett hound and probably something else mix. You can
definately see the corgi in him but he's black which I didn't think was a
normal corgi color.
He's a rescue dog brought up from Arkansas from a high kill shelter. His
litter mates had all been adopted but apparently black dogs (he's one of two
black dogs in the litter) are harder to adopt out.
They said he's about 3 months old but some of the paperwork indicates he
might be as much as 6 months. The name he came with was Feisty but he didn't
seem particularly enamored of it and answers more readily to Buster so we're
gonna stick with that.

We just got back in from his first pee, its odd, he's pooped 3 times but
never pee'd. When he did it was like the flood gates were opening!

I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag of
that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn meal
which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I can get
at the grocery store or Petco please.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Peter T . Arnold]

At the suggestion of my Vet {Actually Bentley's Vet, she's my 13 year
old English Bulldog}, she eats WallyWorlds Brand Lamb & Rice, AND THAT
ALL.
Dogs do not tolerate mixing their foods, and defiantly do nothing but
get sick on people food.
English Bull's life expectancy is 10 years, they are very expensive.
It works for me.
Pete



On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:51:17 -0600, you wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag
>> of that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn
>> meal which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I
>> can get at the grocery store or Petco please.
>
>Forget the grocery store. What does Petco carry?
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber

[Ken Rushing]

I'm not sure what the correct "Ride Height" is. The Vehicle Level is within
limits - only 5mm difference between rear right and left side. Should I
loosen and retighten all the link bolts when the rear axle is perfectly
horizontal? Because my mistake was probably when I tightened them all while
the wheel carrier was not supported (just dangling). Thanks again.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
> 
>> The link goes to a story that says they have filed a suit. Do you have a
>> link to the origial story?
> 
> The only original news story I saw at the time was on a TV station's web 
> page, 
> and I can't find it now. 

Silly me, I was searching for "Cracker Barrel" when it was a "Country Buffet":
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19703745&BRD=2259&PAG=461&dept_id=571464&rfi=6


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[MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes

[Kris Gilmore]

   Obama says on page 215 of his _Audacity of Hope_ book "I 
believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and our leaders must 
say so in the face of the gun manufacturers' lobby."  I guess this is 
the standard urban liberal view.  He appears to have voted for 
restrictive gun laws at every opportunity.

  Obama's extreme urbanity troubles me.  I have read both his 
books and I can't remember any instances of him doing anything 
practical or enjoying the outdoors.  No gardening, hiking, hunting, 
fishing, cycling, building, mowing,  boating.or biking.  No interest 
in  machinery.  He plays basketball, that most urban of sports.

  I suspect he understands less about others than he thinks he 
does.  His stereotypes can be awkward.  For example, here is an 
excerpt from his Values chapter in _Audacity of Hope_, page 57:

  "..our democracy might work a bit better if we recognized that 
all of us possess values worthy of respect: if liberals at least 
acknowledged that the recreational hunter feels the same way about 
his gun as they feel about their library books, and if conservatives 
recognized that most women feel as protective of their right to 
reproductive freedom as evangelicals do of their right to worship."

Gaak.  In real life there are many hunters who use libraries and 
liberals (or at least Democrats) that don't but do hunt.  These are 
not contrasting groups/values.  IMHO he is just showing his ignorance 
of people unlike himself. He doesn't say exactly what "reproductive 
freedom " for women amounts to although I gather free abortion is a 
big part of it.  To him conservatives always are hung up on the most 
narrow sort of religion.

  Obama champions an activist government.  I am sure he will want 
glorious new programs for the urban poor.

  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV

  He was the kind that can't keep from being bad without being good.
















  


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Mitch Haley]

Craig McCluskey wrote:

> The link goes to a story that says they have filed a suit. Do you have a
> link to the origial story?

The only original news story I saw at the time was on a TV station's web page, 
and I can't find it now. Here's a lot of discussion:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=708970&page=1

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=11311&forum_id=46&jump_to=190176

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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Who Are the Bike Guys?

[Wonko the Sane]

How many hills will you encounter? If few, then a one-speed, balloon-tire
Schwinn.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Something like a mountain bike (vice a road bike, I suppose) to ride around
> to get some exercise. I reckon it will be on sidewalks, streets and
> dirt/gravel along canals.
>
> What should I look for?
>
> Bob R
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who Are the Bike Guys?
>
> Robert Rentfro wrote:
> > Is this good? No pic's sadly.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://phoenix.craigslist.org/bik/
>
> Did you have a particular bike in mind?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:57:45 -0400 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gary Hurst wrote:
> > just because the law says open carry is ok, doesn't mean they will let
> > you do it
> 
> Sometimes they need a little help in getting the message.
> In this case, the cops asked the manager if the customers were any
> trouble,  trying to prompt a complaint that might justify their actions.
> The manager said "everything was fine until you guys showed up".
> http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19768981

The link goes to a story that says they have filed a suit. Do you have a
link to the origial story?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag
> of that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn
> meal which doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I
> can get at the grocery store or Petco please.

Forget the grocery store. What does Petco carry?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault

[Curt Raymond]

It seems like yours is just exactly the opposite arguemnt as the dems... 
Neither of them are worth much.

If the price of oil goes down now then useage is likely to go up and investment 
in conservation (which is where the real money is) and alternatives will also 
go down. We need to not drill on our own soil to keep the price of oil HIGH 
which will spur other things and keep using somebody else's oil.
If I had a bank account with a small amount in it and somebody else was paying 
I'd definately let them pay.
We've got a small amount of oil but the Arabs would prefer we pump theirs. 
Thats cool, lets pump theirs. When its all gone we can get ours.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:29:17 -0400
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
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Nope - read my whole email - Anwar is just the tip of the iceburg and may 
contain more than estimated.  Also, the oil off our coasts may be 
substantial along with coal shale, etc.

Why would anyone be against extracting what's there?  If you had a bank 
account with a few thousand in it would you ignore it just because you;ll 
need more at some point?

None of the alternative fuels sources will help near term - drilling for oil 
can help - Anwar is just one place to drill.

As far as the oil leases the oil companies have presently - they're not 
being drilled because geologist have found there is little likelyhood of oil 
being found there.  Would you spend *your* money drilling somewhere that's 
unlikely to make any money?  hope not.

but the demorats are making a big deal of the oil companies not driling the 
leases they presently have - they evidently don;t get it - but I'll bet the 
American people do -


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[MBZ] OT: New dog

[Curt Raymond]

I know theres lots of dog folks on here...

Got our first (well my first, my wife had a dog before) dog today. He's a 
corgi, dachshound, bassett hound and probably something else mix. You can 
definately see the corgi in him but he's black which I didn't think was a 
normal corgi color.
He's a rescue dog brought up from Arkansas from a high kill shelter. His litter 
mates had all been adopted but apparently black dogs (he's one of two black 
dogs in the litter) are harder to adopt out.
They said he's about 3 months old but some of the paperwork indicates he might 
be as much as 6 months. The name he came with was Feisty but he didn't seem 
particularly enamored of it and answers more readily to Buster so we're gonna 
stick with that.

We just got back in from his first pee, its odd, he's pooped 3 times but never 
pee'd. When he did it was like the flood gates were opening!

I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag of 
that. I know Hursty says its crap and the first ingredient is corn meal which 
doesn't excite me much. What do you lot suggest? Something I can get at the 
grocery store or Petco please.

-Curt



  
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[MBZ] Re/OT Supreme Court , Home Security

[Burt Anderson]

After the Supreme Court Decision I think I can unlock my guns from safe
storage from children, none at home, and be prepared to use them in the
event of a home invasion.  In my State we have one every week or two and
usually with violence or death.  Now I really can feel safe.

Earlier today got back from the range after a couple of hrs of .45 ACP, .38
Spec and .357 shooting.  We fired at 75 feet.  An old buddy wanted to check
out his latest self defense home weapon.  He is replacing his Beretta 9mm
with a .357 revolver.  He concluded the revolver was a better self defense
weapon.  Less preparation for use.  The Beretta is a nice weapon but not
exactly like the old 1911 Auto.  To complex for me.

I love the old .45 1911A1 but after a few rounds concluded mine needed some
trigger lightening.  My initial shots were in "jerk alley", 6 to 9 o'clock,
but on the paper.  Bench resting the weapon took them into the black so I
need a much lighter trigger pull.  Much like a target or match .45.  The
.357 is a S&W 6" barrel with a scope on it.  Haven't fired it in years so
had to sight it in for the ammo I was using, from the rest.  Managed to get
them all in the black, after sighting in.  Remember it has a scope.  Very
nice weapon and like a .22 when using lighter .38 Special loads.  However,
still comfortable with .357 loads.

My little Colt Detective Special with 2" barrel was fun to shoot again.
Very good from a bench rest.  An excellent home defense weapon.  Small, easy
to handle and comfortable for my big hands.  I fell in love with it when I
fired expert with it in the AF.

Burt Anderson
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Who Are the Bike Guys?

[Robert Rentfro]

Something like a mountain bike (vice a road bike, I suppose) to ride around
to get some exercise. I reckon it will be on sidewalks, streets and
dirt/gravel along canals.

What should I look for?

Bob R

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Robert Rentfro wrote:
> Is this good? No pic's sadly.
> 
>  
> 
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/bik/

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Re: [MBZ] Who Are the Bike Guys?

[Mitch Haley]

Robert Rentfro wrote:
> Is this good? No pic's sadly.
> 
>  
> 
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/bik/

Did you have a particular bike in mind?


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Mitch Haley]

Gary Hurst wrote:
> just because the law says open carry is ok, doesn't mean they will let you
> do it

Sometimes they need a little help in getting the message.
In this case, the cops asked the manager if the customers were any trouble, 
trying to prompt a complaint that might justify their actions. The manager
said "everything was fine until you guys showed up".
http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19768981

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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Bill R]

Or so it would seem.
BillR
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Perception is reality!

Thanks,
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> Washington is an open carry state.

Umm, I don't think it is any longer.  It certainly used to
be, not that many years ago.  But then some bunch of whiners
around Olympia got their panties in a bunch about somebody
that carried a rifle in their pickup's gun rack in a 'neighborhood'
and they got it changed.  I forget just how much it has
changed, but I'd be careful strapping on a piece if I were you.

I'm sure the offending party now carries it out of sight
under the seat.  But the hothouse flowers sure feel safer!

Remember, it's about perception not reality!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Tom Hargrave]

Perception is reality!

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> Washington is an open carry state.

Umm, I don't think it is any longer.  It certainly used to
be, not that many years ago.  But then some bunch of whiners
around Olympia got their panties in a bunch about somebody
that carried a rifle in their pickup's gun rack in a 'neighborhood'
and they got it changed.  I forget just how much it has
changed, but I'd be careful strapping on a piece if I were you.

I'm sure the offending party now carries it out of sight
under the seat.  But the hothouse flowers sure feel safer!

Remember, it's about perception not reality!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"

[Peter Frederick]

I do believe that only German cars have left me on the side of the  
road, although my sister got stranded by her Volvo a few years back  
(blown head gasket, but I don't know if that was from overheating  
because the radiator nipple failed or the radiator nipple blew off  
when the head gasket went).  Ended up with a new head and radiator,  
anyway.  My TE blew a flex disk this summer, and a had a timing belt  
tensioner fail on my old Audi Fox once, but I should have replaced  
it, it was noisy after replacing the head gasket.

My recent experience with a failed flex disk is actually my fault --  
there is no reason not to do a complete examination of the car before  
a long trip, and I'd have seen a bad flex disk, I think.  However, I  
don't think that would locate a bad vac pump on an OM615 (unless you  
noticed the knock from a loose retainer screw!) or a loose alternator  
pulley!

I'm going to have a complete checkover on mine before my August trip.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Jim Cathey]

> Washington is an open carry state.

Umm, I don't think it is any longer.  It certainly used to
be, not that many years ago.  But then some bunch of whiners
around Olympia got their panties in a bunch about somebody
that carried a rifle in their pickup's gun rack in a 'neighborhood'
and they got it changed.  I forget just how much it has
changed, but I'd be careful strapping on a piece if I were you.

I'm sure the offending party now carries it out of sight
under the seat.  But the hothouse flowers sure feel safer!

Remember, it's about perception not reality!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Gary Hurst]

just because the law says open carry is ok, doesn't mean they will let you
do it

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Washington is an open carry state.  Figure I should strap up and
> wander the street to make certain the punk kid gang banger wannabes
> refrain from wandering my neighborhood with their rattle cans
>
> clay
>
> Stay off my lawn you damn kids!
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2008, at 06:57, LarryT wrote:
>
> > You wrote < >> Glock on his belt -- off duty>>
> >
> > some police departments consider their officers to be on duty 24
> > hours and
> > require them to be armed whenever they leave their home.
> >
> > Also, you wrote < > with one
> > tucked
> >> into the belt on the way to work>>
> >
> > Only people who have been thru extensive background checks can
> > legally carry
> > concealed weapons.  As to wearing one on the way to work - we have
> > no way of
> > know what situations they must pass thru while travelling to
> > work.. Some
> > people (mostly poor) live in places where they are in danger much
> > of the
> > time with police never close enough.   Like it or not, some crimes
> > occur
> > while travelling to & from work.
> >
> > If someone is carrying a weapon legally you have no reason to fear
> > them -
> > their rate of criminality is extremely low - something like .001%.
> >
> > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
> > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
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> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
> >
> >
> >> I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
> >>
> >> I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
> >> default
> >> -- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
> >> especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I own none
> >> now but
> >> not
> >> because I think they are evil but because I feel no need for one
> >> and there
> >> are no firing ranges around. (I don't like shooting off into the
> >> cornfield
> >> randomly.)
> >>
> >> However, I am uncomfortable with having folks walk around with one
> >> tucked
> >> into the belt on the way to work. Are you really that insecure and
> >> scared?
> >>
> >> There is a very young Deputy Sheriff who walks around Jefferson
> >> with his
> >> Glock on his belt -- off duty. Even though I know he is a Deputy,
> >> looks
> >> sort
> >> of strange hanging a Glock over his Levis, covered ever so
> >> slightly by his
> >> t-shirt. Also wears a leather thing holding his handcuffs. ...
> >> He's just a
> >> little (in stature) jerk trying to look like someone important.
> >> Probably
> >> has
> >> some "self esteem" issues at the crotch level. He is the only law
> >> enforcement guy in town who "packs" off-duty. All I can think when
> >> I see
> >> him
> >> is Barney Fife. Sure hope they don't give him bullets!
> >>
> >> If the place in which you live is so dangerous that you must pack
> >> heat to
> >> commute to work, I have a suggestion for you -- MOVE. No matter
> >> what your
> >> skill in life, you can find similar work in a crime-free
> >> environment. This
> >> is a really big country.
> >>
> >> I'll bet BuyMGParts could be run from Jefferson -- you could buy a
> >> storefront for less than $100K and rent the apartments on the
> >> second floor
> >> to cover your mortgage. But then you'd have to buy a very nice
> >> house in
> >> which to live for $100K -- if you want a house with a three car
> >> garage in
> >> a
> >> nice neighborhood. I had to pay $75K w/ a four car garage, but
> >> that was
> >> seven years ago. In fact, someone could run the whole thing out of
> >> his
> >> house. Economic Development money might even pay for the house.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:22 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I doubt that there is anyway to tell what a politician will do until
> >>> they've already done it.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
>  OK Don wrote:
> > Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his
> > belief that
> > we have the right to individually own arms.
> 
>  12 years of action speak louder than those phony words.
> 
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> OK Don, KD5NRO
> >>> Norman, OK
> >>> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
> >>> -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
> >>> '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
> >>> Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go)
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Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"

[Gary Hurst]

this is exactly the kind of talk that got me kicked out by richard easley,
just a short decade ago.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Some MUCH older and many more miles, some not.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"
>
>
> > Where the other cars as old, with as many miles at the time?
> >
> > Wilton Strickland wrote:
> > > During 58 years of driving, I've owned:  '31 Model A Ford, '40 Ford,
> '51
> > > Chevy, '56 Chevy, '61 Pontiac, '65 Pontiac, '64 Karman Ghia, '71
> Chrysler,
> > > '64 Dodge Van, '74 Dodge Van, '80 MB 240D, '75 Ford Frontier, '67 VW,
> '87
> > > Dodge Caravan, '95 Dodge Caravan, '91 MB 350SDL, '81 MB 300D, and '87
> MB
> > > 300D.
> > >
> > > Of all of those vehicles during 58 years of owning and driving,
> including
> > > several times all the way across the country, and many times half way
> > > across, the MB's are the only ones that have "let me down" - stranded
> me
> on
> > > the road:  '80 240D - idler pulley came off, '91 350SDL - timing chain
> > > broke, '81 300D - fan belt broke, '87 300D - alternator pulley came
> off.
> > > Isn't it ironic that ALL of my MB's have "let me down" at some time,
> and
> > > NONE of the others ever did?
> > >
> > > Wilton
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber

[Peter Frederick]

Bad subframe mounts will not affect camber, just ride and noise.

Check ride height (to check for sagging springs, they do go bad).

When you replaced the links, did you jack the wheel carrier to ride  
height BEFORE tightening any of the bolts past a loose fit?

Have you had a 4-wheel alignment done by a good shop?

Peter


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[MBZ] Kaleb and Jim

[David Hemsley]

1985 300CDT
 
Thanks guys.
 
Removing that one bolt was sure slow but Oh so FAST compared to the zero 
advancement I had made in hours. 
 
The old unit is now out.
 
 
Thanks,
Dave H...
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Re: [MBZ] MGs -- WAS - OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Tom Hargrave]

Others have told me the same and I've looked at the cars in past.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

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Sent: 6/28/08 10:04 AM
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Hey Tom,
You;ll love it if you do - very simple and easy to work on.

Just don't let a fear of finding parts prevent you buying one - it's
never a 
problem
;-)

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From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:22 AM
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> Makes me want to go out & buy an MG or something.
>
> Seriously, I've always wanted one but never got around to buying an
MGB. I
> have too many other car & motorcycle projects.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>
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[MBZ] Who Are the Bike Guys?

[Robert Rentfro]

Is this good? No pic's sadly.

 

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/bik/

 

Could this be an implement of delardassification?

 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security

[Redghost]

I know that my locks are secure as can be.  Locked myself out and had  
to call a locksmith to let me in.  He spent two hours trying to pick  
the old Russwin on the door.  Gave up and went for the simpler garage  
door keylock.

clay

On 28 Jun 2008, at 07:28, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Guess what? The locks on your house are probably useless, due to  
> the no-skill
> lock picking technique known as bumping:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr23tpWX8lM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkkS2p7SuQ
>
> Somebody claims you can fix the problem by pumping some sort of  
> grease or oil
> into the lock. I'm not so sure about the solution, but they do a  
> great job of
> demonstrating the problem, the 'burglar' looks like somebody  
> unlocking the
> door normally.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGX6jyyIkPk
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Redghost]

Washington is an open carry state.  Figure I should strap up and  
wander the street to make certain the punk kid gang banger wannabes  
refrain from wandering my neighborhood with their rattle cans

clay

Stay off my lawn you damn kids!


On 28 Jun 2008, at 06:57, LarryT wrote:

> You wrote <> Glock on his belt -- off duty>>
>
> some police departments consider their officers to be on duty 24  
> hours and
> require them to be armed whenever they leave their home.
>
> Also, you wrote < with one
> tucked
>> into the belt on the way to work>>
>
> Only people who have been thru extensive background checks can  
> legally carry
> concealed weapons.  As to wearing one on the way to work - we have  
> no way of
> know what situations they must pass thru while travelling to  
> work.. Some
> people (mostly poor) live in places where they are in danger much  
> of the
> time with police never close enough.   Like it or not, some crimes  
> occur
> while travelling to & from work.
>
> If someone is carrying a weapon legally you have no reason to fear  
> them -
> their rate of criminality is extremely low - something like .001%.
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>
>
>> I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
>>
>> I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by  
>> default
>> -- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
>> especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I own none  
>> now but
>> not
>> because I think they are evil but because I feel no need for one  
>> and there
>> are no firing ranges around. (I don't like shooting off into the  
>> cornfield
>> randomly.)
>>
>> However, I am uncomfortable with having folks walk around with one  
>> tucked
>> into the belt on the way to work. Are you really that insecure and  
>> scared?
>>
>> There is a very young Deputy Sheriff who walks around Jefferson  
>> with his
>> Glock on his belt -- off duty. Even though I know he is a Deputy,  
>> looks
>> sort
>> of strange hanging a Glock over his Levis, covered ever so  
>> slightly by his
>> t-shirt. Also wears a leather thing holding his handcuffs. ...  
>> He's just a
>> little (in stature) jerk trying to look like someone important.  
>> Probably
>> has
>> some "self esteem" issues at the crotch level. He is the only law
>> enforcement guy in town who "packs" off-duty. All I can think when  
>> I see
>> him
>> is Barney Fife. Sure hope they don't give him bullets!
>>
>> If the place in which you live is so dangerous that you must pack  
>> heat to
>> commute to work, I have a suggestion for you -- MOVE. No matter  
>> what your
>> skill in life, you can find similar work in a crime-free  
>> environment. This
>> is a really big country.
>>
>> I'll bet BuyMGParts could be run from Jefferson -- you could buy a
>> storefront for less than $100K and rent the apartments on the  
>> second floor
>> to cover your mortgage. But then you'd have to buy a very nice  
>> house in
>> which to live for $100K -- if you want a house with a three car  
>> garage in
>> a
>> nice neighborhood. I had to pay $75K w/ a four car garage, but  
>> that was
>> seven years ago. In fact, someone could run the whole thing out of  
>> his
>> house. Economic Development money might even pay for the house.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:22 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt that there is anyway to tell what a politician will do until
>>> they've already done it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>>> wrote:
 OK Don wrote:
> Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his  
> belief that
> we have the right to individually own arms.

 12 years of action speak louder than those phony words.

>>>
>>> --
>>> OK Don, KD5NRO
>>> Norman, OK
>>> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
>>> -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
>>> '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
>>> Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go)
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> LT Don
>> http://don.homelinux.net/~don/
>>
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get upgrade
>> The following packages will be replaced
>> Prez
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
>> 

Re: [MBZ] halt

[Bill R]

It did last from about 10 until 6:30 the next morning.  I spend the next day
in bed and after that I was pretty much ok [well, that is always up for
debate]. I still have a couple of packets of hydration salts we used to
distribute to infants/families in third world countries.  I might need one.
Thanks - Bill

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] halt

i hope you feel better soon  -- make sure you drink plenty of fluids as you 
can dehydrate very quickly when doing that -

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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 12:18 AM
Subject: [MBZ] halt


> Sorry guys,, but I need to stop the discussion for tonight.  I have been 
> writing between trips to the bathroom to throw up [and down], and I'm down

> to dry heaves.  Hurts too much from both ends.
> BillR
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Bill R]

Yes, the US helps in disasters worldwide, though our giving per capita is
quite low compared to many others  I don't remember the figures anymore, but
I think we are among the lowest of the developed countries.  When disasters
occur here millions of dollars and goods are donated by other countries.
The company I worked for was responsible for receiving  some of it, the rest
was sent to or offered to our government. At times the offers have been
ignored by our officials who don't like the idea of the US being on the
receiving end.  Your feelings about this are common, but misguided.  Another
thing to be aware of is that when there is a disaster in another country the
total of the damage is only barely touched by all external aid, and what
comes from within the country [except for the poorest countries] dwarfs what
is coming in from abroad.  One reason we think we make such a huge
difference is that our news will show a US medical team doing some work, but
fail to mention the local medical teams who have been there for days and
will stay for weeks or months.  That is not newsworthy here.
BillR  

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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:46 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

Clay wrote <>

It's well documented when the US helps other countries when tragedy 
strikes -

When do other countries help the US?

SPeaking of Katrina - the  mayor and sheriff decided no one should have guns

except them - they started disarming the very people who were not causing 
problems  - while gangs of criminals roamed the streets robbing and looting 
the police turned the other way and went after 80 yr old women with a small 
handgun.  Naturally some very wealthy people had their own security - they 
got to keep their guns

The gun owners had to go to court to demand their guns back - the mayor 
ignored the court order for months - then came up with onerous reqmnts for 
the owners to prove ownership.

Seeing a 280# marshall jumping a old lady and knocking her to the ground - 
so they could disarm her was a great move for *pro* gun people!  It showed 
the true agenda of those who wish to ban guns - like obama.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights


>I disagree about just how close to chaos we find ourselves.   This
> thin veneer of civilization will be swept away quicker than any of us
> suspects and those armed and willing to protect will be in the best
> position to prosper.
>
> The midwest flooding, as well as Katrina could well have been far
> worse had there not been a fully functional society able to send in
> assistance.   With rising fuel and food costs, we will be strapped to
> respond to future disasters.   And other nations will be in much the
> same limited position to respond, resulting in our great nation
> becoming a second world country for lack of infrastructure.
>
> At this point, it will be good to have an option to protect oneself
> when police no longer are willing or able to respond.I would much
> prefer to quickly resolve violence against my family or person with
> something more stout than a garden rake.
>
> clay
>
>
>
>
> On 27 Jun 2008, at 14:33, R A Bennell wrote:
>
>> Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that
>> he or she is defending him or herself or his or
>> her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different
>> than they were when the constitution was
>> written and most folks in your fine country would now be a whole
>> lot better off is they did not need to worry about
>> the number of hand guns out there.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:59 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>>
>>
>> The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.
>> Instead we
>> have a politically driven decision along party lines.  If they had
>> done the
>> research of looking to see what the forefathers had *intended*
>> there should
>> have been no question about an individual right.
>>
>> They made no secret of what their opinions were - they wanted
>> all peole
>> to have access to guns to defend themselves and their country.
>>
>> The SCOTUS no longer analyzes the Constitution and determines
>> Constitutionality - they vote along party lines --
>>
>> But I guess this is nothing new - Is it?  When did they lose their
>> objectivity?
>>
>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 9

Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

[Harry Watkins]

Wilton
Thanks for going the extra mile(s) on this project to share it with us.  I
printed all the pics you posted and will include it in my book with your
excellent write up.

Harry

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> Here's the summary as an e-mail Win doc attachment.  I think OK Don will
> submit it as a PDF.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[LarryT]

Hi Gary -
I feel the same obligation to carry concealed. My wife does also.  The 
frustrating thing is now that she works at the VA hosp she cannot keep her 
gun in the car.  I know its doubtfull it would ever be found but if it were 
it would mean her job - maybe her license too.  Too many  dangerous, 
expensive problems involved if she were caught - even if locked in the glove 
box.

But that's the way law-abiding people act - they obey the law even if they 
dont want to.

The bad part is she's safe on VA property - but as soon as she leaves their 
parking lot she travels thru some questionable areas - unarmed.  True, it's 
unlikely she'll be attacked - but people are attacked everyday.

As far as I know, no one has called her a poo-poo head (not since the kids 
stopped doing it) so I can't say whether she has blown 30 or 40 people away 
with her hi-cap mags. ;-\

But obama wants her to be unarmed and at risk everywhere she goes.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights


>i feel an obligation to carry.  what if i come across a situation where
> someone absolutely needs shooting?  if i am unprepared, then many might
> die.  disarming me and those who think like me is just an invitation to
> virginia tech.  there are no virginia techs around my 1911.
>
> the citizen, not the government, is the thin line between civilization and
> lawlessness.  to my mind, any man who can legally carry and doesn't shirks
> his responsibility as a citizen.
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:57 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You wrote <> > Glock on his belt -- off duty>>
>>
>> some police departments consider their officers to be on duty 24 hours 
>> and
>> require them to be armed whenever they leave their home.
>>
>> Also, you wrote <> tucked
>> > into the belt on the way to work>>
>>
>> Only people who have been thru extensive background checks can legally
>> carry
>> concealed weapons.  As to wearing one on the way to work - we have no way
>> of
>> know what situations they must pass thru while travelling to work..
>> Some
>> people (mostly poor) live in places where they are in danger much of the
>> time with police never close enough.   Like it or not, some crimes occur
>> while travelling to & from work.
>>
>> If someone is carrying a weapon legally you have no reason to fear them -
>> their rate of criminality is extremely low - something like .001%.
>>
>> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>>
>>
>> >I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
>> >
>> > I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
>> default
>> > -- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
>> > especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I own none now but
>> > not
>> > because I think they are evil but because I feel no need for one and
>> there
>> > are no firing ranges around. (I don't like shooting off into the
>> cornfield
>> > randomly.)
>> >
>> > However, I am uncomfortable with having folks walk around with one 
>> > tucked
>> > into the belt on the way to work. Are you really that insecure and
>> scared?
>> >
>> > There is a very young Deputy Sheriff who walks around Jefferson with 
>> > his
>> > Glock on his belt -- off duty. Even though I know he is a Deputy, looks
>> > sort
>> > of strange hanging a Glock over his Levis, covered ever so slightly by
>> his
>> > t-shirt. Also wears a leather thing holding his handcuffs. ... He's 
>> > just
>> a
>> > little (in stature) jerk trying to look like someone important. 
>> > Probably
>> > has
>> > some "self esteem" issues at the crotch level. He is the only law
>> > enforcement guy in town who "packs" off-duty. All I can think when I 
>> > see
>> > him
>> > is Barney Fife. Sure hope they don't give him bullets!
>> >
>> > If the place in which you live is so dangerous that you must pack heat 
>> > to
>> > commute to work, I have a suggestion for you -- MOVE. No matter what 
>> > your
>> > skill in life, you can find similar work in a crime-free environment.
>> This
>> > is a really big country.
>> >
>> > I'll bet BuyMGParts could be run from Jefferson -- you could buy a
>> > storefront for less than $100K and rent the apartments on the

Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

[Wilton Strickland]

Thank you.  I rather not have had to do it, but I actually enjoyed it, 'cept
the heat and humidity.  I've always enjoyed a challenge.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy


> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:25:33 -0400 "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Here's the summary as an e-mail Win doc attachment.
>
> Thank you for all the work in documenting your marathon effort!
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:25:33 -0400 "Wilton Strickland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Here's the summary as an e-mail Win doc attachment.

Thank you for all the work in documenting your marathon effort!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security

[LarryT]

You wrote << If someone is bound and determined to get into your house, 
locks of
> any kind on the doors are not going to stop him.>>

So, do you lock your house when you go to bed?  The logic you;re using above 
sounds like you may as well put your locks on ebay -

I know what you are saying - you;re right - the same is often said of 
someone wanting to kill you - but the reasonable thing to do is make things 
as difficult as possible.  If I need Schlage Primus locks to keep morons 
from *easily* entering my home I will.

Those Bump Locks make it waaay to easy (and FAST) for people to get in. 
Once in they're home free.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security


> If someone is bound and determined to get into your house, locks of
> any kind on the doors are not going to stop him.
>
> Allan
>
> Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Guess what? The locks on your house are probably useless, due to the 
>> no-skill
>> lock picking technique known as bumping:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr23tpWX8lM
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkkS2p7SuQ
>>
>> Somebody claims you can fix the problem by pumping some sort of grease or 
>> oil
>> into the lock. I'm not so sure about the solution, but they do a great 
>> job of
>> demonstrating the problem, the 'burglar' looks like somebody unlocking 
>> the
>> door normally.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGX6jyyIkPk
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Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault

[LarryT]

In the early 80s I worked on a Breeder Reactor which woud have used all the 
$*Trillions* of dollars presently being stored at nuclear facilities all 
over the country.  It would effectlvely recycle it.

But the carter admin decided to throw away the $2.5Billion worth labor & 
equipment (we had bought all major equip) rather than develop a new 
technology that would help the nuke waste problem - nearly 30 years ago.  To 
demonstrate the system would provide electricity we added a 
turbine/generator.

Then, those brilliant senators said - "well, gee, TVA is giving us all the 
power we need,"  then he says, "we don't know what we will do with the nuke 
waste we have now - we shouldn;t be making more of it."   If his brain power 
was TNT there wouldn't be enough there to blow his nose.

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- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault


> Wrong - the price of oil is only now starting to rise to the pain
> point (it's not there yet, it's just to the bitching point), before
> we'll get serious about finding/building serious alternatives.
>
> Yes - we need to do some serious work on the nuclear waste problem,
> then get those nuke plants cranking!
>
>>  For years we've heard  cheap oil keeps
>> alternatives from being workable -
>> well, we no longer have cheap oil - IMO we haven;t since the 60s when it 
>> was
>> $.30/gal - and we are not seeing realistic alternatives.
>>
>> We also need to be building nuclear power plants - which have a superior
>> safety record BTW - just don't be fooled by the propaganda of the safety
>> perspectives in the movies   - 'a la the China Syndrome.
>>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault

[LarryT]

Nope - read my whole email - Anwar is just the tip of the iceburg and may 
contain more than estimated.  Also, the oil off our coasts may be 
substantial along with coal shale, etc.

Why would anyone be against extracting what's there?  If you had a bank 
account with a few thousand in it would you ignore it just because you;ll 
need more at some point?

None of the alternative fuels sources will help near term - drilling for oil 
can help - Anwar is just one place to drill.

As far as the oil leases the oil companies have presently - they're not 
being drilled because geologist have found there is little likelyhood of oil 
being found there.  Would you spend *your* money drilling somewhere that's 
unlikely to make any money?  hope not.

but the demorats are making a big deal of the oil companies not driling the 
leases they presently have - they evidently don;t get it - but I'll bet the 
American people do -


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- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault


You just made my case. Anything less than 5 years of oil isn't squat. We'll 
burn it all in a couple years and then what have we got? Less than 
nothing...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:33:02 -0400
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault
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curt wrote <>

Not sure why you would say that - unless you're believing the demorat
publicity.

according to <> there
is <> in Anwar.

According to
<> the
US uses approx <<21 million barrels per day>>

that equates to between 428 days and 761 days - or between 14 months and 25
months - but the real benefit will be to show the world's oil producers we
can and *will* produce our own oil. Add the above 1-2 year supply - from
JUST Anwar - the oil reserves in the US and off our coasts & it is possible
for us to be oil independent.

We need to drill here, drill now and while we enjoy our resources we can be
looking for alternatives. For years we've heard cheap oil keeps
alternatives from being workable -
well, we no longer have cheap oil - IMO we haven;t since the 60s when it was
$.30/gal - and we are not seeing realistic alternatives.

We also need to be building nuclear power plants - which have a superior
safety record BTW - just don't be fooled by the propaganda of the safety
perspectives in the movies - 'a la the China Syndrome.

(9 billion /21 million) and 16 billion/21 million)
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Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"

[Wilton Strickland]

Some MUCH older and many more miles, some not.

Wilton

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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"


> Where the other cars as old, with as many miles at the time?
>
> Wilton Strickland wrote:
> > During 58 years of driving, I've owned:  '31 Model A Ford, '40 Ford, '51
> > Chevy, '56 Chevy, '61 Pontiac, '65 Pontiac, '64 Karman Ghia, '71
Chrysler,
> > '64 Dodge Van, '74 Dodge Van, '80 MB 240D, '75 Ford Frontier, '67 VW,
'87
> > Dodge Caravan, '95 Dodge Caravan, '91 MB 350SDL, '81 MB 300D, and '87 MB
> > 300D.
> >
> > Of all of those vehicles during 58 years of owning and driving,
including
> > several times all the way across the country, and many times half way
> > across, the MB's are the only ones that have "let me down" - stranded me
on
> > the road:  '80 240D - idler pulley came off, '91 350SDL - timing chain
> > broke, '81 300D - fan belt broke, '87 300D - alternator pulley came off.
> > Isn't it ironic that ALL of my MB's have "let me down" at some time, and
> > NONE of the others ever did?
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> >
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[MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber

[Ken Rushing]

My MBZ has excessive negative camber on both rear tires. I just replaced all
the links and the control arm busings (two per side) and the rubber pad
above the springs. All needed to be replaced - so no loss. But I still have
the excessive camber. Are the sub frame mount bushings next? I don't see
anything else that could contribute to it. Thanks,
Ken
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Gary Hurst]

i feel an obligation to carry.  what if i come across a situation where
someone absolutely needs shooting?  if i am unprepared, then many might
die.  disarming me and those who think like me is just an invitation to
virginia tech.  there are no virginia techs around my 1911.

the citizen, not the government, is the thin line between civilization and
lawlessness.  to my mind, any man who can legally carry and doesn't shirks
his responsibility as a citizen.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:57 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You wrote < > Glock on his belt -- off duty>>
>
> some police departments consider their officers to be on duty 24 hours and
> require them to be armed whenever they leave their home.
>
> Also, you wrote < tucked
> > into the belt on the way to work>>
>
> Only people who have been thru extensive background checks can legally
> carry
> concealed weapons.  As to wearing one on the way to work - we have no way
> of
> know what situations they must pass thru while travelling to work..
> Some
> people (mostly poor) live in places where they are in danger much of the
> time with police never close enough.   Like it or not, some crimes occur
> while travelling to & from work.
>
> If someone is carrying a weapon legally you have no reason to fear them -
> their rate of criminality is extremely low - something like .001%.
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>
>
> >I just have to jump in here with my philosophy.
> >
> > I am all for guns. Have owned some in the past (ex got them all by
> default
> > -- they were stored in her mother's house in Maine). Shooting is fun,
> > especially pistols. Had one of those too (Colt .22). I own none now but
> > not
> > because I think they are evil but because I feel no need for one and
> there
> > are no firing ranges around. (I don't like shooting off into the
> cornfield
> > randomly.)
> >
> > However, I am uncomfortable with having folks walk around with one tucked
> > into the belt on the way to work. Are you really that insecure and
> scared?
> >
> > There is a very young Deputy Sheriff who walks around Jefferson with his
> > Glock on his belt -- off duty. Even though I know he is a Deputy, looks
> > sort
> > of strange hanging a Glock over his Levis, covered ever so slightly by
> his
> > t-shirt. Also wears a leather thing holding his handcuffs. ... He's just
> a
> > little (in stature) jerk trying to look like someone important. Probably
> > has
> > some "self esteem" issues at the crotch level. He is the only law
> > enforcement guy in town who "packs" off-duty. All I can think when I see
> > him
> > is Barney Fife. Sure hope they don't give him bullets!
> >
> > If the place in which you live is so dangerous that you must pack heat to
> > commute to work, I have a suggestion for you -- MOVE. No matter what your
> > skill in life, you can find similar work in a crime-free environment.
> This
> > is a really big country.
> >
> > I'll bet BuyMGParts could be run from Jefferson -- you could buy a
> > storefront for less than $100K and rent the apartments on the second
> floor
> > to cover your mortgage. But then you'd have to buy a very nice house in
> > which to live for $100K -- if you want a house with a three car garage in
> > a
> > nice neighborhood. I had to pay $75K w/ a four car garage, but that was
> > seven years ago. In fact, someone could run the whole thing out of his
> > house. Economic Development money might even pay for the house.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:22 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I doubt that there is anyway to tell what a politician will do until
> >> they've already done it.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > OK Don wrote:
> >> >> Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
> >> >> we have the right to individually own arms.
> >> >
> >> > 12 years of action speak louder than those phony words.
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Norman, OK
> >> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
> >> -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain
> >> '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply
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Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Im going to include this in the okiebenz.com tech articles

Wilton Strickland wrote:
> Here's the summary as an e-mail Win doc attachment.  I think OK Don will
> submit it as a PDF.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Gary Hurst]

the anti-gun premise is that we are so crazy and out of control that if one
of us calls the other a "poo poo head" the other will come up firing until
we empty our high capacity clip into the other.  in fact, the liberal elite
believe we are such mad dogs that one of us might shoot the other just
because we have the capability to do so.  yes, we are simply rabid dogs to
them and treated accordingly.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why would anyone want to shoot me?
> the Anti-Gun laws  don't keep the guns aeay from criminals - they aren't
> fazed by laws - thats why we call them criminals!   Sheesh!
>
> BTW, in the cities where guns are severely restricted to law abising
> citizens, the murder & assault rate are *much* huigher than in cities where
> guns are available to people who can legally own them.
>
>
> Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
>
>
> > Hey Larry, I hope you are never shot by a citizen who believes that he or
> > she is defending him or herself or his or
> > her country. I suggest that the times now are a whole lot different than
> > they were when the constitution was
> > written and most folks in your fine country would now be a whole lot
> > better off is they did not need to worry about
> > the number of hand guns out there.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:59 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
> >
> >
> >The upsetting thing is this should have been a 9-0 decision.  Instead
> > we
> > have a politically driven decision along party lines.  If they had done
> > the
> > research of looking to see what the forefathers had *intended* there
> > should
> > have been no question about an individual right.
> >
> >They made no secret of what their opinions were - they wanted all
> peole
> > to have access to guns to defend themselves and their country.
> >
> >The SCOTUS no longer analyzes the Constitution and determines
> > Constitutionality - they vote along party lines --
> >
> >But I guess this is nothing new - Is it?  When did they lose their
> > objectivity?
> >
> > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D)
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> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:51 AM
> > Subject: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights
> >
> >
> >> http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
> >>
> >> It's a long decision (157 pages)
> >>
> >> The Court held (among other things) that
> >>
> >> 1. The Second Amendment protects an individuals right to possess a
> >> firearm
> >> unconnected to service in a militia
> >>
> >> 2. Like most rights, the right to bear arms is not unlimited
> >>
> >> 3.  The handgun ban and the trigger lock requirement violate the second
> >> Amendment i.e. D.C.'s total ban on handguns in the home, violates the
> >> Second Amendment.
> >>
> >> Donald H. Snook
> >>
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[MBZ] PDF of Wilton's evapectomy document

[OK Don]

The attachment is the PDF version of Wilton's excellent notes!

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[MBZ] 124 evapectomy

[Wilton Strickland]

Here's the summary as an e-mail Win doc attachment.  I think OK Don will
submit it as a PDF.

Wilton.
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CDT Cruise control Amp Removal

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well you are going about it all wrong.  Takes longer to pull the under 
dash panel than to pull the amp. You are trying to remove the amp from 
its bracket while still mounted to the car.  You have to remove the 
entire bracket/amp then remove the amp from the bracket.  There is IIRC 
only one 10mm bolt that holds the bracket to the brake pedal support. 
Just remove that and it will come right out.

David Hemsley wrote:
> I have been on my back for hours now trying to figure out how to remove the 
> cruise control amp.The screw nearest the drivers seat was easy the one 
> nearest the engine though ?It is NOT that it is rusted in I just cannot 
> seem to find the right tool to get on the Phillips head screw while 
> maintaining enough pressure to start backing it in nor can I get two hands in 
> there to do it.Any guidance would surely be appreciated.However thought of 
> putting that screw in there, instead of a headed bolt, and then place it 
> beginning from the outboard side threading into the inboard side is cruel.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[Gary Hurst]

according to the nra, obama has a powerfully anti gun record as a
legislator, including voting against any right to protect your home and
family from criminal intrusion through the use of a firearm.  from reading
the nra magazine, it seems that obama is a complete and unconditional ban
guy.

another note on the differences in attitude towards guns north and south can
be illustrated by a conversation i had with a veteran cop yesterday.  the
soccer stadium i go to hires cops as "security" even though we have almost
no need for such security.  i suppose it is a legal precaution in case of
lawsuit as the three cops don't actually ever have to do anything and just
stand in their position the whole night.

a middle aging cop is at the gate i come through and my kid is wearing a
cowboy hat.  as i walk by i tell the cop not to worry as i made her leave
her matching pearl handled .45 colt revolvers in the car.  in new york city
or washington DC, the radios would be blaring  as i'm face down on the floor
and the swat team is called out with tank to take my car.  but he just
laughed and said he wished all law abiding citizens would carry guns all the
time and that as far as he is concerned, as long as no one sees it and
brings it to his attention, he has no interest in whether fans are carrying
guns or not.



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> I doubt that there is anyway to tell what a politician will do until
> they've already done it.
>
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > OK Don wrote:
> >> Obama stated support for the ruling today - confirmed his belief that
> >> we have the right to individually own arms.
> >
> > 12 years of action speak louder than those phony words.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Where the other cars as old, with as many miles at the time?

Wilton Strickland wrote:
> During 58 years of driving, I've owned:  '31 Model A Ford, '40 Ford, '51
> Chevy, '56 Chevy, '61 Pontiac, '65 Pontiac, '64 Karman Ghia, '71 Chrysler,
> '64 Dodge Van, '74 Dodge Van, '80 MB 240D, '75 Ford Frontier, '67 VW, '87
> Dodge Caravan, '95 Dodge Caravan, '91 MB 350SDL, '81 MB 300D, and '87 MB
> 300D.
> 
> Of all of those vehicles during 58 years of owning and driving, including
> several times all the way across the country, and many times half way
> across, the MB's are the only ones that have "let me down" - stranded me on
> the road:  '80 240D - idler pulley came off, '91 350SDL - timing chain
> broke, '81 300D - fan belt broke, '87 300D - alternator pulley came off.
> Isn't it ironic that ALL of my MB's have "let me down" at some time, and
> NONE of the others ever did?
> 
> Wilton
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust

[Wilton Strickland]

They were available 6 yrs ago.  Call stealer and ask.  Mine came via Caliber
Motors in CA.

If you have a good one, you may be able to salvage enough cylinder pins from
your bad one and a salvaged one to make up another matched one by careful
filing of longer pins, etc.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust


> > So the question is are replacement VIN key'd door locks available? Are
> > they the same thing as the ignition lock?
>
> Yes, and no.  I actually transferred the wafers from a cut-up
> ignition lock (column seizure, looks like) to a good one from
> the boneyard.  Removing/drilling out the retainer pin that held
> the lock together was the only hard part.  A piece of wire
> served to replace that (soft) pin.
>
> My point is that unless it's actually broken, you may be
> able to disassemble it enough to actually restore it to service.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Electrical confusion

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:45:20 -0400 "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It may be my unfamilarity (compared to you) with electrical stuff - but
> I aways called a wire that lights a test light "hot".
> 
> Since it works fine hooked up this way I'll leave it like this - but I
> have never had power on a negative ground wire before.

The negative "ground" wire is not ground until you hook it up to ground.

With the power side of the radio connected to the battery and with the
"ground" wire disconnected, the radio looks like a high resistance wire
from the battery to the "ground" wire.

To connect the "ground" to ground without sparks, disconnect the power
wires from the battery. Then, when you connect the "ground" wire, you will
get no sparks. Then, connect the power wires up to the battery. You will
get the same spark as before; it will just be on the other side of the
radio -- a place where you expect to see sparks.

The point to understand this is the definition of what is a complete
electrical circuit. Current flows from the battery, through the power
wires to the radio, through the radio, and through the "ground" wiring
back to the battery. The same current flows through the entire circuit:
battery, "power" wiring, radio, and "ground" wiring. If you interrupt the
circuit anywhere, you will interrupt the same current and get the same
spark.

HTH,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Electrical confusion

[Jim Cathey]

> It may be my unfamilarity (compared to you) with electrical stuff - 
> but I
> aways called a wire that lights a test light "hot".

Sort of.  Conduct a simple experiment: take a headlight and hook one
lead to +12V.  Now see what your test light does with the other lead.
(Hint: it'll light.)  The test light is providing the ground, and
if the load is heavy enough the light will go on.  The typical test
light needs only about 1A to fully light, that's a whopping 10-12W.
Most stereos are capable of drawing a whole lot more than that if
they want to, and so if they want to they'll light your test lamp
in your scenario.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust

[Jim Cathey]

> So the question is are replacement VIN key'd door locks available? Are 
> they the same thing as the ignition lock?

Yes, and no.  I actually transferred the wafers from a cut-up
ignition lock (column seizure, looks like) to a good one from
the boneyard.  Removing/drilling out the retainer pin that held
the lock together was the only hard part.  A piece of wire
served to replace that (soft) pin.

My point is that unless it's actually broken, you may be
able to disassemble it enough to actually restore it to service.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security

[Peter Frederick]

You can buy bump-proof locks, they are a bit expensive.

Main problem is controlling who has "bump" keys

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security

[Jim Cathey]

> If someone is bound and determined to get into your house, locks of
> any kind on the doors are not going to stop him.

Nope, but you do want one that's going to slow them down long
enough for you to get your shotgun.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CDT Cruise control Amp Removal

[Jim Cathey]

> I have been on my back for hours now trying to figure out how to 
> remove the cruise control amp.The screw nearest the drivers seat was 
> easy...

Your problem is that you are trying to take off the wrong thing.
Remove the 10mm bolt that holds that plate to the brake support.
That's easy, then you can remove the amplifier from the plate.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"

[Wilton Strickland]

I agree wholeheartedly.  The 240D had 42 kmi, the  350SDL 89 kmi,  the 300D
130 kmi, the 87 300D 84 kmi.

Wilton

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> I guess you have to consider the condition when you started driving
> them - IF the others were relatively new, and the MBs all had over
> 200K, then it might skew the results a bit.
> The only times a MB has stranded me were when the vacuum pump on the
> 220D disintegrated, and when the same car later seized totally -
> blocked oil ports to the mains.
> The Plymouth van that we bought new (only new car ever) stranded us on
> the MN WI border with a dead fuel pump, just within the warranty
> period, by a couple of thousand miles and a few months.
> The MGA failed due to fuel pump issues with the original engine, then
> I lost the water pump on the Olds engine that replaced the MG engine;
> my '51 VW was always breaking something - the accelerator cable comes
> to mind; I don't remember the '58 chevy ever stranding me, nor the '74
> Saab Sonett, nor the Toymotor MR2. Of the pair of '76 300Ds one rusted
> out from under me, the other was totaled while parked. The '74 Opel
> Manta rusted out also. The '78 VW van wouldn't start in a parking lot
> once - turned out to be a loose vacuum hose. That's all I can
> remember.
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > During 58 years of driving, I've owned:  '31 Model A Ford, '40 Ford, '51
> > Chevy, '56 Chevy, '61 Pontiac, '65 Pontiac, '64 Karman Ghia, '71
Chrysler,
> > '64 Dodge Van, '74 Dodge Van, '80 MB 240D, '75 Ford Frontier, '67 VW,
'87
> > Dodge Caravan, '95 Dodge Caravan, '91 MB 350SDL, '81 MB 300D, and '87 MB
> > 300D.
> >
> > Of all of those vehicles during 58 years of owning and driving,
including
> > several times all the way across the country, and many times half way
> > across, the MB's are the only ones that have "let me down" - stranded me
on
> > the road:  '80 240D - idler pulley came off, '91 350SDL - timing chain
> > broke, '81 300D - fan belt broke, '87 300D - alternator pulley came off.
> > Isn't it ironic that ALL of my MB's have "let me down" at some time, and
> > NONE of the others ever did?
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security

[Mitch Haley]

Allan Streib wrote:
> If someone is bound and determined to get into your house, locks of
> any kind on the doors are not going to stop him.

True, but I found it shocking that he could just walk in as if he belonged 
there, in which case the only function the locks serve is to make it look to
the neighbors like you gave the burglar a key.

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Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault

[OK Don]

Wrong - the price of oil is only now starting to rise to the pain
point (it's not there yet, it's just to the bitching point), before
we'll get serious about finding/building serious alternatives.

Yes - we need to do some serious work on the nuclear waste problem,
then get those nuke plants cranking!

>  For years we've heard  cheap oil keeps
> alternatives from being workable -
> well, we no longer have cheap oil - IMO we haven;t since the 60s when it was
> $.30/gal - and we are not seeing realistic alternatives.
>
> We also need to be building nuclear power plants - which have a superior
> safety record BTW - just don't be fooled by the propaganda of the safety
> perspectives in the movies   - 'a la the China Syndrome.
>


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Re: [MBZ] Car "let-down"

[OK Don]

I guess you have to consider the condition when you started driving
them - IF the others were relatively new, and the MBs all had over
200K, then it might skew the results a bit.
The only times a MB has stranded me were when the vacuum pump on the
220D disintegrated, and when the same car later seized totally -
blocked oil ports to the mains.
The Plymouth van that we bought new (only new car ever) stranded us on
the MN WI border with a dead fuel pump, just within the warranty
period, by a couple of thousand miles and a few months.
The MGA failed due to fuel pump issues with the original engine, then
I lost the water pump on the Olds engine that replaced the MG engine;
my '51 VW was always breaking something - the accelerator cable comes
to mind; I don't remember the '58 chevy ever stranding me, nor the '74
Saab Sonett, nor the Toymotor MR2. Of the pair of '76 300Ds one rusted
out from under me, the other was totaled while parked. The '74 Opel
Manta rusted out also. The '78 VW van wouldn't start in a parking lot
once - turned out to be a loose vacuum hose. That's all I can
remember.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> During 58 years of driving, I've owned:  '31 Model A Ford, '40 Ford, '51
> Chevy, '56 Chevy, '61 Pontiac, '65 Pontiac, '64 Karman Ghia, '71 Chrysler,
> '64 Dodge Van, '74 Dodge Van, '80 MB 240D, '75 Ford Frontier, '67 VW, '87
> Dodge Caravan, '95 Dodge Caravan, '91 MB 350SDL, '81 MB 300D, and '87 MB
> 300D.
>
> Of all of those vehicles during 58 years of owning and driving, including
> several times all the way across the country, and many times half way
> across, the MB's are the only ones that have "let me down" - stranded me on
> the road:  '80 240D - idler pulley came off, '91 350SDL - timing chain
> broke, '81 300D - fan belt broke, '87 300D - alternator pulley came off.
> Isn't it ironic that ALL of my MB's have "let me down" at some time, and
> NONE of the others ever did?
>
> Wilton
>
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Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault

[Curt Raymond]

You just made my case. Anything less than 5 years of oil isn't squat. We'll 
burn it all in a couple years and then what have we got? Less than nothing...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:33:02 -0400
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault
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curt wrote <>

Not sure why you would say that - unless you're believing the demorat 
publicity.

according to <>  there 
is <> in Anwar.

According to 
<>  the 
US uses approx <<21 million barrels per day>>

that equates to between 428 days and 761 days - or between 14 months and 25 
months - but the real benefit will be to show the world's oil producers we 
can and *will*  produce our own oil.  Add the above 1-2 year supply - from 
JUST Anwar - the oil reserves in the US and off our coasts & it is possible 
for us to be oil independent.

We need to drill here, drill now and while we enjoy our resources we can be 
looking for alternatives.  For years we've heard  cheap oil keeps 
alternatives from being workable -
well, we no longer have cheap oil - IMO we haven;t since the 60s when it was 
$.30/gal - and we are not seeing realistic alternatives.

We also need to be building nuclear power plants - which have a superior 
safety record BTW - just don't be fooled by the propaganda of the safety 
perspectives in the movies   - 'a la the China Syndrome.

(9 billion /21 million) and 16 billion/21 million)
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Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust

[Curt Raymond]

Should is the operative word... On the passenger side handle the lock slid 
right out... Obviously something was VERY wrong with the driver's side. I had 
to beat the lock out after leaving it soaking in MMO overnight...

-Curt

--- On Sat, 6/28/08, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 11:50 AM

'Bout 6 years ago I got a NEW door handle assembly with original keying, of
course, the same as master/ign switch - just like ordering a new master/ign
cylinder.

BTW, with the pin holding that long shaft pulled, the cylinder should slip
right out.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust


> So it finally occured to me (at 2am natch) that I could put a socket over
the fragile pinhole on the lock so I could beat it out of the handle. That
worked reasonably well except I managed to break the door handle... Good
thing Wilton has a replacement.
> The lock is frozen solid. I found gobs of old graphite packed around it.
Apparently I'd been making this problem worse. I thought I'd been able
to
flush out old graphite but apparently not. Looking at it now I can see there
was no place for it to go... I've got it soaking in carb cleaner now which
is what worked best on the other one but it doesn't look hopeful.
>
> So the question is are replacement VIN key'd door locks available? Are
they the same thing as the ignition lock?
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] MGs -- WAS - OT Supreme Court upholds gun rights

[OK Don]

You missed the winky face after that sentence ;-)   It was to tease Wonky.

You must keep your valves adjusted to have gone that many miles
without cracking the head. Does your have the SU or Stromberg carbs?
I used to be good tuning the SUs - but had to do it often.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:35 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don wrote < them?>>
>
> Check out www.mossmotors.com and you'll see a huge website dedicated to old
> UK sports cars.  They recently opened a east coast warehouse  near
> Petersburg Va (near me)  ;-)  so I;ll be able to get my MGB parts even
> faster.
>

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[MBZ] 85 300CDT Cruise control Amp Removal

[David Hemsley]

I have been on my back for hours now trying to figure out how to remove the 
cruise control amp.The screw nearest the drivers seat was easy the one nearest 
the engine though ?It is NOT that it is rusted in I just cannot seem to 
find the right tool to get on the Phillips head screw while maintaining enough 
pressure to start backing it in nor can I get two hands in there to do it.Any 
guidance would surely be appreciated.However thought of putting that screw in 
there, instead of a headed bolt, and then place it beginning from the outboard 
side threading into the inboard side is cruel.
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[MBZ] MGs

[Glenn Brown]

In my dumbest days, I had mistakenly purchased a '57 MGA and after two
complete engine rebuilds and the lousy engine started knocking again I
decided that anyone owning an MG deserved it.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust

[Wilton Strickland]

'Bout 6 years ago I got a NEW door handle assembly with original keying, of
course, the same as master/ign switch - just like ordering a new master/ign
cylinder.

BTW, with the pin holding that long shaft pulled, the cylinder should slip
right out.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okay brain trust


> So it finally occured to me (at 2am natch) that I could put a socket over
the fragile pinhole on the lock so I could beat it out of the handle. That
worked reasonably well except I managed to break the door handle... Good
thing Wilton has a replacement.
> The lock is frozen solid. I found gobs of old graphite packed around it.
Apparently I'd been making this problem worse. I thought I'd been able to
flush out old graphite but apparently not. Looking at it now I can see there
was no place for it to go... I've got it soaking in carb cleaner now which
is what worked best on the other one but it doesn't look hopeful.
>
> So the question is are replacement VIN key'd door locks available? Are
they the same thing as the ignition lock?
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT:Home security

[Allan Streib]

If someone is bound and determined to get into your house, locks of
any kind on the doors are not going to stop him.

Allan

Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Guess what? The locks on your house are probably useless, due to the no-skill 
> lock picking technique known as bumping:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr23tpWX8lM
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkkS2p7SuQ
>
> Somebody claims you can fix the problem by pumping some sort of grease or oil 
> into the lock. I'm not so sure about the solution, but they do a great job of 
> demonstrating the problem, the 'burglar' looks like somebody unlocking the
> door normally.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGX6jyyIkPk

-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] I get top secret military material

[Mitch Haley]

LarryT wrote:
> Zsolt wrote <<>>
> 
> IMHO, one of the better movie made - although it rec'd very little 
> publicity -

I finally got the DVD last year, the book was better (books are usually
better than movies).

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Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault

[LarryT]

curt wrote <>

Not sure why you would say that - unless you're believing the demorat 
publicity.

according to <>  there 
is <> in Anwar.

According to 
<>  the 
US uses approx <<21 million barrels per day>>

that equates to between 428 days and 761 days - or between 14 months and 25 
months - but the real benefit will be to show the world's oil producers we 
can and *will*  produce our own oil.  Add the above 1-2 year supply - from 
JUST Anwar - the oil reserves in the US and off our coasts & it is possible 
for us to be oil independent.

We need to drill here, drill now and while we enjoy our resources we can be 
looking for alternatives.  For years we've heard  cheap oil keeps 
alternatives from being workable -
well, we no longer have cheap oil - IMO we haven;t since the 60s when it was 
$.30/gal - and we are not seeing realistic alternatives.

We also need to be building nuclear power plants - which have a superior 
safety record BTW - just don't be fooled by the propaganda of the safety 
perspectives in the movies   - 'a la the China Syndrome.

(9 billion /21 million) and 16 billion/21 million)
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- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason to stay home - all Clinton's fault


There isn't enough oil in ANWAR to make a bit of difference. That field in 
North Dakota is supposed to be way bigger and even bigger than they thought 
and it hasn't done a thing to the price of oil...

BTW gas prices have been climbing steadily here, up to $4.09 now. Diesel 
hasn't risen at all, $4.89. I'd heard that the refineries were going to bias 
production more toward diesel, looks like thats actually happening. I'd like 
it to happen a bit more so I can lock in a lower heating fuel price!

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:16:28 -0400
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Donald wrote <>

Hi Donald - A couple of questions -
Is it possible for Bush to sign an EO to open Anwar and the coasts to
drilling? Or were clintons EOs followed by congressonal legislation??

If we started actively drilling I bet the markets would react quickly
and prices would drop long before the oil actually got to market.

Also - this is where I think States Rights really got hurt - why can't
Va open her coast to drilling - I'd even support Va residents get 1st shot
at the oil with unneeded oil going to other areas - but that might not be
workable. ;-) \\\

BUT! The citizens of Va *should* decide what happens in her coastal
waters - not representatives from other states..

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[MBZ] Car "let-down"

[Wilton Strickland]

During 58 years of driving, I've owned:  '31 Model A Ford, '40 Ford, '51
Chevy, '56 Chevy, '61 Pontiac, '65 Pontiac, '64 Karman Ghia, '71 Chrysler,
'64 Dodge Van, '74 Dodge Van, '80 MB 240D, '75 Ford Frontier, '67 VW, '87
Dodge Caravan, '95 Dodge Caravan, '91 MB 350SDL, '81 MB 300D, and '87 MB
300D.

Of all of those vehicles during 58 years of owning and driving, including
several times all the way across the country, and many times half way
across, the MB's are the only ones that have "let me down" - stranded me on
the road:  '80 240D - idler pulley came off, '91 350SDL - timing chain
broke, '81 300D - fan belt broke, '87 300D - alternator pulley came off.
Isn't it ironic that ALL of my MB's have "let me down" at some time, and
NONE of the others ever did?

Wilton


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