Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
I also asked him, here is his response I don't know. Who cares? - e_dias Something is sure fishy with this car. Maybe we should start bombarding him with this question. Curt Raymond wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110296567387ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 I emailed and asked if he was sure about it having a turbo seeing as MB never made a turbo manual trans and seeing as it doesn't have a turbodiesel badge. I also asked for pics of the engine bay. He replied Who cares? The turbo is there. Maybe it was added later. I will tell you one thing, it has a lot of power!!! ZZZ...OO... Thanks for looking. Dias I've again asked for engine bay pics. I think he's full of crap about something, not sure what yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 7:01 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
you mean the fair tax Jim Cathey wrote: This illustrates the fallacy of shifting taxes to business from individuals. It is perfectly valid, but only because it cuts by orders of magnitude the number of tax collection points one has to monitor. Much less government overhead involved, thus less waste. I'm a big fan of a flat percentage retail sales tax, and one that is _overtly_ exposed to the customer. No fair sinking it into prices, tote it up at the end. By statute. That way it's always in your face, and can inspire feedback from the populace. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 7:01 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I also asked him, here is his response I don't know. Who cares? Answer to his rhetorical question: YOU should care if you want me to bid on your car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: you mean the fair tax The national Demonratic party has been running attack ads against my Congresscritter, accusing him of wanting to enact a TAX INCREASE of 23% on EVERYTHING YOU BUY, because he voted for a 'fair tax' bill. The Demonrats didn't explain how repealing the federal income tax and social security taxes constituted a tax increase. It's all pointless anyway, no Michigan or Florida resident with half a brain is going to vote for any Demonrat candidate after the way the Demonrats slapped us all in the face over the primary elections. That goes double for Obama, who boycotted our primary. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A/C -- What do you think of this?
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[MBZ] A/C -- another
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Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
Thats exactly what I responded back Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I also asked him, here is his response I don't know. Who cares? Answer to his rhetorical question: YOU should care if you want me to bid on your car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
My Lincoln has the same settings as yours... There are loads of other factors involved in what settings to use but I've found that low/1 is really only good for sheet metal work once I've got metal of any real thickness I usually go to high/1, I've only used high/2 on a couple occasions welding 1/8 stock. I've also found I need WAY more wire speed than I first thought. Like you I spent a lot of time blowing holes in stuff. Its because there wasn't enough make up metal going in place. Higher wire speed fixes that. Of course it requires me to pay more attention so I don't get globs everywhere but I get much less blow through and get better penetration. As a test cut one of your welds back off (you do have an angle grinder right? ;) ) and see how far through the metal you've gotten. I did a repair on a tractor seat once which I thought was pretty good until I ground the slag off and found I'd just laid a bead on top of the crack... More power and more wire speed helped that. Like the others told me when I was first learning you need stick time... Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. -Curt Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:55:07 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I bought this 110A, 230V MIG welder from Harbor Freight a while back when it was on sale. I've tried it a few times on a few things, mostly just blew holes through what I was working on. Did manage to get a plate welded over a rusted out area on my mower deck, but it was ugly. Today, I decided to try to repair this trampoline that the kids have out back. It it made of tube steel and several of the original welds had rusted out and failed. Most were repairable but for one of the joints I decided to reinforce it with some plate steel since there was significant metal fatigue in the tubing. The welder is 35 - 110A adjustable, but it only has 4 actual settings, controlled by two toggle switches. One labeled High/Low the other 1/2 So, Low-1 is the lowest setting, then Low-2, then High-1, and High-2. The welder has a gas hookup but I'm using the flux core wire it came with. I finally figured out that one of my problems seem to be that I've been using WAY too much power on the stuff I've been trying to work on. On this work today I used the Low-1 setting and it was much more controllable. Also I found that using a zig-zag motion as I weld helps get a much nicer looking weld. By the time I got the trampoline frame back together I was actually making pretty good looking welds with the flux core wire, and was fairly pleased. I have an auto-darkening helmet (also a HF cheapie, but it seems to work just fine), and am wondering how dark these are supposed to be. With this one, I can see the arc but not much else, it's so dark. Aren't you at least supposed to be able to see where you're going? There's an adjustment on mine, but not sure how light I can go and still be safe. Haven't quite figured out the effect of wire speed yet; I've been using mine set fairly slow, about between 1/4 and 1/3 of maximum. The speed setting, unlike the amperage, is infinitely adjustable. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dieselers, Fuel Pressure Relief Valve Spring Adjustment
I am adding this to my list of semi regular maintenance items along with valve adj, ALDA cleaning and filter/oil changes. There was a good discussion on mshop about this (http://mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=234609 ignore the title it is incorrect) and recommend this to anyone with a M or MW injection pump. It takes a few minutes and can do wonders for your car. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
IF the engine is 617.xxx.12.yy the engine was built as an auto. Then the car is a conversion. I know there are people who have done conversions wirth 617 turbo engines to 4 speed manual trans, but the 12 in the engine number identifies the car as a conversion engine. THat, along with the seller appearing to be a bozo is why I'd run. At 09:43 PM 10/8/2008, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Ask 'im for the engine number from the plate on the engine. That will tell you if it is a turbo or not. 617.xxx.10.yy the 3 x's are what you want, and if the 10 is a 12, RUN away fast! Why run? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Luther wrote: Who authored that? Sam Brownback -- Senator from Kansas. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT saw sharpener
Royce -- if you get down into town, Circle Saw on the North Loop at Ella, behind Lowes, can sharpen up all your blades for a reasonable sum, on a proper machine to set angles and bevels and all that. Well worth the money on carbide blades, I have some that they have sharpened 3x so far, and they work well. --R Royce Engler wrote: Dan - Interesting...I've seen a blade throw off the long strings, but never been able to duplicate it. The old methods can be amazing. There's a guy near here who mills native Texas woods like Mesquite and Bois d' Arc (also called horse apples) He built his own kiln and has some really beautiful flitches. He uses a bandsaw type mill. I just can't bring myself to throw away a perfectly good blade even if it isn't sharp any more. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C -- What do you think of this?
The refrigerant I use needs no recovery. If you were going to maintain your own R12 system it might be nice to have. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
we must have a similar Lincoln MIG = as with others I have the same problems = round glbs of weld with no penetration. Soounds like I need to increase the wire speed and increase the power -- Thx for the info = LarryT - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) My Lincoln has the same settings as yours... There are loads of other factors involved in what settings to use but I've found that low/1 is really only good for sheet metal work once I've got metal of any real thickness I usually go to high/1, I've only used high/2 on a couple occasions welding 1/8 stock. I've also found I need WAY more wire speed than I first thought. Like you I spent a lot of time blowing holes in stuff. Its because there wasn't enough make up metal going in place. Higher wire speed fixes that. Of course it requires me to pay more attention so I don't get globs everywhere but I get much less blow through and get better penetration. As a test cut one of your welds back off (you do have an angle grinder right? ;) ) and see how far through the metal you've gotten. I did a repair on a tractor seat once which I thought was pretty good until I ground the slag off and found I'd just laid a bead on top of the crack... More power and more wire speed helped that. Like the others told me when I was first learning you need stick time... Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. -Curt Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:55:07 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I bought this 110A, 230V MIG welder from Harbor Freight a while back when it was on sale. I've tried it a few times on a few things, mostly just blew holes through what I was working on. Did manage to get a plate welded over a rusted out area on my mower deck, but it was ugly. Today, I decided to try to repair this trampoline that the kids have out back. It it made of tube steel and several of the original welds had rusted out and failed. Most were repairable but for one of the joints I decided to reinforce it with some plate steel since there was significant metal fatigue in the tubing. The welder is 35 - 110A adjustable, but it only has 4 actual settings, controlled by two toggle switches. One labeled High/Low the other 1/2 So, Low-1 is the lowest setting, then Low-2, then High-1, and High-2. The welder has a gas hookup but I'm using the flux core wire it came with. I finally figured out that one of my problems seem to be that I've been using WAY too much power on the stuff I've been trying to work on. On this work today I used the Low-1 setting and it was much more controllable. Also I found that using a zig-zag motion as I weld helps get a much nicer looking weld. By the time I got the trampoline frame back together I was actually making pretty good looking welds with the flux core wire, and was fairly pleased. I have an auto-darkening helmet (also a HF cheapie, but it seems to work just fine), and am wondering how dark these are supposed to be. With this one, I can see the arc but not much else, it's so dark. Aren't you at least supposed to be able to see where you're going? There's an adjustment on mine, but not sure how light I can go and still be safe. Haven't quite figured out the effect of wire speed yet; I've been using mine set fairly slow, about between 1/4 and 1/3 of maximum. The speed setting, unlike the amperage, is infinitely adjustable. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
Moving the arc in a figure-8 motion across the width of the weld is what I was taught for MIG. All welding helmets filter out the UV regardless of the darkness setting - that's what will give you cataracts. You can set the darkness level to whatever is comfortable. Use a thicker wire and higher power setting to get better penetration. Cover all exposed skin - not just your face. You will get a wicked sunburn otherwise. The UV goes right through light clothing. Don't let kids or pets anywhere near you when welding. They tend to stare at the arc. Even at a distance it can damage their retina. -Dave Walton On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought this 110A, 230V MIG welder from Harbor Freight a while back when it was on sale. I've tried it a few times on a few things, mostly just blew holes through what I was working on. Did manage to get a plate welded over a rusted out area on my mower deck, but it was ugly. Today, I decided to try to repair this trampoline that the kids have out back. It it made of tube steel and several of the original welds had rusted out and failed. Most were repairable but for one of the joints I decided to reinforce it with some plate steel since there was significant metal fatigue in the tubing. The welder is 35 - 110A adjustable, but it only has 4 actual settings, controlled by two toggle switches. One labeled High/Low the other 1/2 So, Low-1 is the lowest setting, then Low-2, then High-1, and High-2. The welder has a gas hookup but I'm using the flux core wire it came with. I finally figured out that one of my problems seem to be that I've been using WAY too much power on the stuff I've been trying to work on. On this work today I used the Low-1 setting and it was much more controllable. Also I found that using a zig-zag motion as I weld helps get a much nicer looking weld. By the time I got the trampoline frame back together I was actually making pretty good looking welds with the flux core wire, and was fairly pleased. I have an auto-darkening helmet (also a HF cheapie, but it seems to work just fine), and am wondering how dark these are supposed to be. With this one, I can see the arc but not much else, it's so dark. Aren't you at least supposed to be able to see where you're going? There's an adjustment on mine, but not sure how light I can go and still be safe. Haven't quite figured out the effect of wire speed yet; I've been using mine set fairly slow, about between 1/4 and 1/3 of maximum. The speed setting, unlike the amperage, is infinitely adjustable. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Now we're all gonna be retail bankers as well as mortgagers and investment bankers and car company owners! http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09econ.html?pagewanted=print --R Donald Snook wrote: Luther wrote: Who authored that? Sam Brownback -- Senator from Kansas. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
Congrats. Wire welding (GMAW) is pretty easy once you figure out a few parameters. Making some practice welds first on scrap, and then testing the welds is important when you don't weld all the time. I learned to weld from an old Marine drill Sarg and it was a hoot. I can still lay down a pretty nice bead with sticks, but I do need to practice before doing anything serious. I only used wire in the class, because I have not had access to a machine since. I own 2 stick welders, so that is what I use. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. Not if you are like billybob clinton and don't inhale. Seriously, you can weld galvanized, but you need to make sure you don't breathe in the fumes. In normal repair jobs, a little won't hurt you. at least in the short term. I have had zinc inhalation poisoning once. It is no fun, but not as bad as the flu. I don't remember what I was building, but i remember it was welding galvanized pipe together, and I remember where it was and it was in early 1977. I was trying not to inhale, but for some of the welds, I wasn't able to get in a position without breathing some of the stuff. At 08:25 AM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. -Curt Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] USSA of the future
Get the man elected so we can just finish the path toward the new USSA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4 Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the 1986 300sDL I posted a couple weeks ago
I'd be very interested if it wasn't 2500 miles from me. If you are, go for it. Luther Kevin Kraly wrote: Luther, Are you interested in it? No one drives the 1983 300SD I currently own, so it will most likely be hitting the market at some point. It also has a bad AC compressor. Would it be worth the money to have working AC rather than taking the hit for not having it? Since that SDL is 3 years newer and also a long-body W126 for $1500, that probably means I could only hope to get $1100 for my 1983 300SD with similar mileage which is $200 less than I paid. The new ball joint and brakes all the way around may help. Maybe, the market will firm up a bit again at some point?. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula who lives a sedentary lifestyle, unfortunately ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Tell him he should run for president. I would vote for him. Donald Snook wrote: Luther wrote: Who authored that? Sam Brownback -- Senator from Kansas. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
Who cares?? He's crazy as Hell. A BUYER cares!!! Isn't he trying to find a BUYER?!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Remember this? I also asked him, here is his response I don't know. Who cares? - e_dias Something is sure fishy with this car. Maybe we should start bombarding him with this question. Curt Raymond wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110296567387s sPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 I emailed and asked if he was sure about it having a turbo seeing as MB never made a turbo manual trans and seeing as it doesn't have a turbodiesel badge. I also asked for pics of the engine bay. He replied Who cares? The turbo is there. Maybe it was added later. I will tell you one thing, it has a lot of power!!! ZZZ...OO... Thanks for looking. Dias I've again asked for engine bay pics. I think he's full of crap about something, not sure what yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 7:01 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT saw sharpener
Rich said Royce -- if you get down into town, Circle Saw on the North Loop at Ella, behind Lowes, can sharpen up all your blades for a reasonable sum, on a proper machine to set angles and bevels and all that. Well worth the money on carbide blades, I have some that they have sharpened 3x so far, and they work well. *** Thanks, Rich...Tomorrow is my day off...may be time for a road trip down to the inner city. They are located about 8 blocks from my son's house. Maybe I'll do to him what he used to do to me with his dry cleaning...I'll drop it off, and have him pick it up (and pay for it ;-) ) Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USSA of the future
That is hilarious! The sad part is that it is so true! At 09:11 AM 10/9/2008, you wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4 Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvktL4qu3us 4:45 mark. ;) -MMM- --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now we're all gonna be retail bankers as well as mortgagers and investment bankers and car company owners! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
The one that broke party rules? The one where the party said if you hold this primary we will ignore the results? I'm sure theres another side to that story but all I can see is some Michigan little kid democrats that decided they'd be way cooler if they held an early primary and expected to be allowed to slide. When they were held to the rules they pouted... -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:55:32 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: you mean the fair tax The national Demonratic party has been running attack ads against my Congresscritter, accusing him of wanting to enact a TAX INCREASE of 23% on EVERYTHING YOU BUY, because he voted for a 'fair tax' bill. The Demonrats didn't explain how repealing the federal income tax and social security taxes constituted a tax increase. It's all pointless anyway, no Michigan or Florida resident with half a brain is going to vote for any Demonrat candidate after the way the Demonrats slapped us all in the face over the primary elections. That goes double for Obama, who boycotted our primary. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
Yeah thats what I ment. In small doses I believe its called a galvanized headache or some such. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:03:05 -0500 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Congrats. Wire welding (GMAW) is pretty easy once you figure out a few parameters. Making some practice welds first on scrap, and then testing the welds is important when you don't weld all the time. I learned to weld from an old Marine drill Sarg and it was a hoot. I can still lay down a pretty nice bead with sticks, but I do need to practice before doing anything serious. I only used wire in the class, because I have not had access to a machine since. I own 2 stick welders, so that is what I use. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. Not if you are like billybob clinton and don't inhale. Seriously, you can weld galvanized, but you need to make sure you don't breathe in the fumes. In normal repair jobs, a little won't hurt you. at least in the short term. I have had zinc inhalation poisoning once. It is no fun, but not as bad as the flu. I don't remember what I was building, but i remember it was welding galvanized pipe together, and I remember where it was and it was in early 1977. I was trying not to inhale, but for some of the welds, I wasn't able to get in a position without breathing some of the stuff. At 08:25 AM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. -Curt Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Luther wrote: Tell him he should run for president. I would vote for him. Didn't Wonko like him a year or two ago? http://sambrownback.wordpress.com/ Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember when I worked at a Domino's here, a local independent was completely running away with the market. I remember a night when we did not even fill one DOOR sheet (10 pies) and this other place had cars all over town. Allan What, Mellow Mushroom? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
No long term damage that I can tell... that I can tell... that I can tell... that I can tell... that I can tell... that I can tell... ... other than a propensity to buy and fix on old Mercedes that I can tell... well, maybe not, because I already had that disease several years before inhaling zinc fumes Not that I can tell... At 10:08 AM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Yeah thats what I ment. In small doses I believe its called a galvanized headache or some such. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:03:05 -0500 From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Congrats. Wire welding (GMAW) is pretty easy once you figure out a few parameters. Making some practice welds first on scrap, and then testing the welds is important when you don't weld all the time. I learned to weld from an old Marine drill Sarg and it was a hoot. I can still lay down a pretty nice bead with sticks, but I do need to practice before doing anything serious. I only used wire in the class, because I have not had access to a machine since. I own 2 stick welders, so that is what I use. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. Not if you are like billybob clinton and don't inhale. Seriously, you can weld galvanized, but you need to make sure you don't breathe in the fumes. In normal repair jobs, a little won't hurt you. at least in the short term. I have had zinc inhalation poisoning once. It is no fun, but not as bad as the flu. I don't remember what I was building, but i remember it was welding galvanized pipe together, and I remember where it was and it was in early 1977. I was trying not to inhale, but for some of the welds, I wasn't able to get in a position without breathing some of the stuff. At 08:25 AM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. -Curt Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 Door Panel
Hi Gang - Yeserday I decided to change out my broken drivers door safety strap. The strap was super simple - 3 small bolts and a pin, then the reverse. Couldn't have been easier. What was much more difficult than I expected was the stupid inside door panel and all those little plastic clips holding it in place. Naturally I broke one of the clips- didn't even see where it came from - just saw it broken on the ground! what fun - I never did find the way to remove the push-button that locks/unlocks the doors - leaving it in place meant the door panel had to stay semi-attached to the door. My wife helped put the new strap in place - my arms are too big to fit. Then when it came time to put the door panel back on I found the clips holding the rubber wipe to the inside of the window had all fallen off. And naturally I hadn't looked to see how they came off making replacing them more difficult. Also, the arm rest clips don't seem to be clipped into the door making the arm rest stay away from the door by 3/8 to 1/2 - Oh well, what fun is it to replace parts and not end up more frustrated than when I started ;-) So, tomorrow, (when my wife's car will be home) I'll likely remove the door panel again and try to replace the inner door and fix the problems I caused. Hmmm... wonder what I'll screw up this time? Larry T (91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
This is what my Congressman said on the House floor pertaining to the bailout bill. He is Peter Visclosky (D) Indiana Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT September 29, 2008 Madam Speaker, in 1991, when Congress was considering repealing the Glass-Steagall Act and its regulatory framework, Representative John Dingell stated that repealing the Glass-Steagall Act would usher in a golden age of thievery. Mr. Dingell has been proven correct. As recently as September 15, President Bush was saying that Americans have good reason to be confident in our economic strength, and that We have a flexible and resilient system that absorbs challenges and makes corrections and bounces back. Henry Paulson was saying that the current turmoil in markets and financial institutions ultimately would make things better. Now suddenly, we have a crisis. The Bush Administration would have us believe that this crisis is a sudden accident of nature, that it just happened, and could not have been prevented. This crisis is not an accident of nature. The stage was set for this crisis with the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, but this crisis is not the result of a single error in policy. It is the direct result of years and years of deliberate and cynical exploitation by the captains of an unregulated industry, aided and abetted by an Administration that has willfully failed to enforce our laws and regulations, and that hasselected individuals from the very institutions that need oversight to watch over their friends and former colleagues. This crisis is what happens when you set the foxes to guard the henhouse for 8 long years. Now we are being asked to solve this crisis that has been building for most of the last decade in seven days. But is the solution being foisted on us really going to help Main Street? Or is it simply meant to clean up Wall Street's mess, cloak the Bush Administration's abysmal failure to protect the people of this country from financial predators, and further enrich those whose covetousness has caused this problem? Is it going to help the people we represent, or is it going simply add to the profits of foreign banks? Additionally, the Washington Post of September 27, 2008, reports that the six largest banks in the world are going to emerge from this crisis even larger than before. But what about the small community banks that have been following the rules and dealing fairly with borrowers, and who will bear the brunt of the financial dislocation caused by irresponsible financial giants? Why are we leaving our smaller banks to fend for themselves, while bailing out foreign banks? Why does the Royal Bank of Scotland, with $3.5 trillion in assets, need welfare from the American taxpayer? The Bush Administration is rushing us into spending $700 billion without stopping to think things through, because there just isn't time for thinking. They say, trust us, this is necessary. I've heard this before. To me it sounds like what we were told about Iraq: that we had to go to war right away, because of the Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam Hussein possessed. Oh, that's right, they didn't exist. We were told Trust us. It sounds like what we were told when we had to pass the Patriot Act immediately to allow the government to eavesdrop on our private communications and to get the list of books you checked out of the library without probable cause; because there was a risk of terrorism. We were told that we had to fall in line quickly and trust the President. Now it's trust us again. I didn't then, and I don't now! What about the people we're supposed to be protecting? Contrast the President's urgency to help the minions of Wall Street with his disdain for the most vulnerable members of society: our children. During the last two years we asked President Bush to help provide health insurance to four million additional children in our country. He refused to do so-- twice--but now he says we have to bail out four million brokers in seven days. Where was the bailout when real people, the people I am here to represent, experienced financial crisis? When LTV went bankrupt and thousands of people lost their jobs, President Bush didn't sound the alarm. All I know is that Richard Fuld of Lehman Brothers made $34,832,036 last year. When many Bethlehem Steel retirees had their pensions cut, did President Bush provide a helping hand? All I know is that when Stan O'Neal retired from Merrill Lynch, his compensation package was worth $161.5 million. When National Steel went bankrupt, did this Administration ask for a bailout? All I know is that Freddie Mac's Richard F. Syron made $18,289,575 in 2007. When Republic Steel went bust under this Administration, they ceased to exist. On the other hand, AIG ceased to exist after a federal bailout, and no one asked Martin J. Sullivan of AIG to give back the $14,330,736 he was paid
Re: [MBZ] Strange intermittent idling problem
Just a view from South Africa - here biodiesel is priced as just below regular diesel so its not worth it ( energy density is some 10 % less ) + its quality is dubious. WVO is arround a third of the price of diesel here it become pure economics ( if you don't count all the hassels with WVO) ) to run WVO - the break even point is arround 2km with a W123 300D - you could literally throw the car away at that distance and you will have broken even when compared it to a car running diesel! For the record I run all my diesels ( 5 off ) on 500 ppm diesel - the 50ppm stuff here cause in O- ring damage to my Om603 Peter 2008/10/9 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Properly finalized biodiesel is pure, no water, methanol, or NaOH/KOH. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Glycerine is much less of a problem than the accompanying water and sodium methoxide, which corrodes the bejesus out of everything. Peter On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Luther wrote: Home-brew biodiesel can be made to or greater than ASTM standards. I personally know several who have done it and had their samples officially tested. Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what my Congressman said on the House floor pertaining to the bailout bill. He is Peter Visclosky (D) Indiana It's a sad note when the Democrats appear to be the fiscally responsible ones... :P -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
Wilton Strickland wrote: Who cares?? He's crazy as Hell. A BUYER cares!!! Isn't he trying to find a BUYER?!! Methinks he wants an ignorant buyer, and by refusing to answer questions about why a non-turbo VIN has a turbo engine, he's filtering out the knowledgeable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bio/wvo
For as cheap as you can buy these cars (even with the runup by those wanting to run bio/wvo), I sorta wondered if just buying one, running it however you want, then either junking it or replacing an engine, would be a reasonable approach. Not sure how economic that would be, but if you are the Pious sort and just want to project concern, then that is the cost of your guilt assuaging. For us purists who appreciate the fine machinery, that would be heresy, but to each his own --R Peter Merle wrote: Just a view from South Africa - here biodiesel is priced as just below regular diesel so its not worth it ( energy density is some 10 % less ) + its quality is dubious. WVO is arround a third of the price of diesel here it become pure economics ( if you don't count all the hassels with WVO) ) to run WVO - the break even point is arround 2km with a W123 300D - you could literally throw the car away at that distance and you will have broken even when compared it to a car running diesel! For the record I run all my diesels ( 5 off ) on 500 ppm diesel - the 50ppm stuff here cause in O- ring damage to my Om603 Peter 2008/10/9 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Properly finalized biodiesel is pure, no water, methanol, or NaOH/KOH. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Glycerine is much less of a problem than the accompanying water and sodium methoxide, which corrodes the bejesus out of everything. Peter On Oct 8, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Luther wrote: Home-brew biodiesel can be made to or greater than ASTM standards. I personally know several who have done it and had their samples officially tested. Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As a test cut one of your welds back off (you do have an angle grinder right? ;) ) Nope. On the list for soon. Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. These are; I had a box fan behind me to blow the smoke away. Also tried not to take any deep breaths when I was actively welding. I did not get any headaches or other symptoms. The breeze might have been a problem had I been using gas but did not seem to bother the flux core at all. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bio/wvo
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For as cheap as you can buy these cars (even with the runup by those wanting to run bio/wvo), I sorta wondered if just buying one, running it however you want, then either junking it or replacing an engine, would be a reasonable approach. I thought the same thing upon seeing the Craigslist ad Kevin K. posted for the $1500 SDL. If there were any rationality to the markets right now, the value of good-quality, reliable used cars ought to be going up, not down. Google behavioral economics... Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo which I guess is staying in the family for now if it's only worth $1K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USSA of the future
Luther wrote: Get the man elected so we can just finish the path toward the new USSA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4 Didn't expect to see Sarah Palin and Ted Nugent (1:06) in that video. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL Blasphemy
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. What, you never heard of the 1000D? Those '30s Auto Union race cars were just a distraction. The car in the pictures was where all the serious automotive engineering effort of the Third Reich really went---they designed it to be even faster than Jesse Owens. It had a 10-liter straight-18-cylinder Messerschmitt engine that ran on filtered schnitzel cooking oil, and, as you can see, known Nazi collaborator Henry Ford provided the interior of a late-'90s Taurus using top-secret time-travel technology conceived by Werner von Doc Braun. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Mitch Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what my Congressman said on the House floor pertaining to the bailout bill. He is Peter Visclosky (D) Indiana It's a sad note when the Democrats appear to be the fiscally responsible ones... :P Appear being the operative word. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dieselers, Fuel Pressure Relief Valve Spring Adjustment
I am adding this to my list of semi regular maintenance items along with valve adj, ALDA cleaning and filter/oil changes. There was a good discussion on mshop about this (http://mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=234609 ignore the title it is incorrect) and recommend this to anyone with a M or MW injection pump. It takes a few minutes and can do wonders for your car. -Rolf Rolf, That thread is a VERY tedious read, and I can't seem to find any benefit more than feelings expressed (eg. I feel more power, I feel better mpg, my idle feels smoother) (is that forum for Dems/Liberals/Progressive types? just kidding...) What is your take? The premise seems to be that restoring fuel pressure delivered to the main fuel filter is beneficial, but I haven't seen any direct evidence of the benefit yet. Seems to me that more power would be easy to measure by comparing before/after time for 0-60 run. -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
He forwarded me pictures of the engine. It has a turbo. -Dave Walton On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110296567387ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 I emailed and asked if he was sure about it having a turbo seeing as MB never made a turbo manual trans and seeing as it doesn't have a turbodiesel badge. I also asked for pics of the engine bay. He replied Who cares? The turbo is there. Maybe it was added later. I will tell you one thing, it has a lot of power!!! ZZZ...OO... Thanks for looking. Dias I've again asked for engine bay pics. I think he's full of crap about something, not sure what yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
OK so we have a Euro 300D with a high reserve (not yet met with the bid at $3500), a euro VIN so probably can't run a carfax on it (can we?), unknown mileage, and a seller who either does not know the history of the turbo transplant or he's being deliberately vague about the details. dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: He forwarded me pictures of the engine. It has a turbo. -Dave Walton On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110296567387ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 I emailed and asked if he was sure about it having a turbo seeing as MB never made a turbo manual trans and seeing as it doesn't have a turbodiesel badge. I also asked for pics of the engine bay. He replied Who cares? The turbo is there. Maybe it was added later. I will tell you one thing, it has a lot of power!!! ZZZ...OO... Thanks for looking. Dias I've again asked for engine bay pics. I think he's full of crap about something, not sure what yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
Triple (plus some) engined 15+ cyl monster. --R Rolf wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
Did anyone notice that the interior pic is of a Ford Taurus? Allan Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Triple (plus some) engined 15+ cyl monster. --R Rolf wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Curt Raymond wrote: The one that broke party rules? The one where the party said if you hold this primary we will ignore the results? I'm sure theres another side to that story but all I can see is some Michigan little kid democrats that decided they'd be way cooler if they held an early primary and expected to be allowed to slide. When they were held to the rules they pouted... There ya go. Damn those Michigan taxpayers for thinking that if they pay for an election, they get to choose when to have it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Allan Streib wrote: Mitch Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It's a sad note when the Democrats appear to be the fiscally responsible ones... :P Appear being the operative word. They only appear that way if they are standing next to Republicans. And some people would argue that Republicans look responsible when standing next to Democrats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
Interesting, he wouldn't send them to me and he won't add them to the listing... --- On Thu, 10/9/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Remember this? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:09 PM He forwarded me pictures of the engine. It has a turbo. -Dave Walton On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110296567387ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 I emailed and asked if he was sure about it having a turbo seeing as MB never made a turbo manual trans and seeing as it doesn't have a turbodiesel badge. I also asked for pics of the engine bay. He replied Who cares? The turbo is there. Maybe it was added later. I will tell you one thing, it has a lot of power!!! ZZZ...OO... Thanks for looking. Dias I've again asked for engine bay pics. I think he's full of crap about something, not sure what yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] High Volume, Low Pressure Spray Gun Kit
$68 at HF, this might be good for painting the car? Maybe better than the foam roller method? This is about the same as a Campbell Hausfeld, Rockler, and some others I have seen. --R http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=44677 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes 190E 2.3L head gasket parts
Anyone need these? --R http://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/872715431.html Mercedes 190E 2.3L head gasket parts NEW IN PACKAGE - $200 (Charleston) Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ^[? http://www.craigslist.org/about/help/replying_to_posts] Date: 2008-10-09, 1:40PM EDT These parts are worth over $350. They are brand new and still in the packages. The box includes: Head Gasket Set (valued at $85) Valve Stem Seal Kit (valued at $30) Valve Cover Gasket (valued at $12) 4 Intake Valves (valued at $80) 4 Exhaust Valves (valued at $160) 10 Cylinder Head Bolts (valued at $20) email for more information Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bio/wvo
I've thought about keeping my 240D through next summer, running VO in it all summer and parting it in the fall It was a $400 car after all. Of course I've got closer to $900 in it right now. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:40:35 -0400 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] bio/wvo To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed For as cheap as you can buy these cars (even with the runup by those wanting to run bio/wvo), I sorta wondered if just buying one, running it however you want, then either junking it or replacing an engine, would be a reasonable approach. Not sure how economic that would be, but if you are the Pious sort and just want to project concern, then that is the cost of your guilt assuaging. For us purists who appreciate the fine machinery, that would be heresy, but to each his own --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
For light duty use the HF cheapies would probably be acceptable. A friend of mine picked up two Dewalt's for the price of one not long ago, fine deal. My Makita was expensive but seems extremely well made. An angle grinder is pretty much required for any serious work, your flux core wire will leave a lot of slag on the weld which needs to be ground off before paint. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:46:42 -0400 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As a test cut one of your welds back off (you do have an angle grinder right? ;) ) Nope. On the list for soon. Oh and be careful, I've seen trampolines where the legs were galvanized. Welding galvanized metal releases zinc gas which can make you real sick real quick. These are; I had a box fan behind me to blow the smoke away. Also tried not to take any deep breaths when I was actively welding. I did not get any headaches or other symptoms. The breeze might have been a problem had I been using gas but did not seem to bother the flux core at all. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Oh come now you and I both know that the average Michigan tax payer has about as much influence over the date of the election as they do over the price of oil... The state party officials knew they'd be penalized for having the election before a set date, they just thought if they cried enough the national party officials would back down. When it didn't it became the party picking on them. I sure hope for the folks of Michigan that they get rid of those idiot state officials so this doesn't happen again. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:44:42 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: The one that broke party rules? The one where the party said if you hold this primary we will ignore the results? I'm sure theres another side to that story but all I can see is some Michigan little kid democrats that decided they'd be way cooler if they held an early primary and expected to be allowed to slide. When they were held to the rules they pouted... There ya go. Damn those Michigan taxpayers for thinking that if they pay for an election, they get to choose when to have it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the 1986 300sDL I posted a couple weeks ago
Nope, no money, no parking, so no SDL. If I didn't already have a car, and I was looking for a replacement, it would be high on my list. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High Volume, Low Pressure Spray Gun Kit
Didn't you make this post a month or so ago? No I don't think it'll be any better than the roller method and is quite likely worse. Based on other HF tools I've bought I expect it to be quite fragile, I doubt it has any kind of water trap and it'll need a good degreasing before you can use it. Its also a real small can and will need frequent refilling. Might be okay for one panel at a time but I don't see any advantage over a roller or rattle cans for that matter. Either way if you want a really good (better than 20') paint job you need to spend a BUNCH of time on prep work. Really good prep work can be painted with a roller to give just as smooth a finish as when shot with a gun in a similar amount of time and in a more confined space. Poor (or even just average) prep will give you crappy results no matter how its painted. No matter what you paint with if you want an amazing finish its paint and sand, paint and sand. I didn't do hardly any prep on my car's hood and still managed to put ~20 hours into it most of which was prep grinding rust and filling dents. The actual paint maybe took 4 hours. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:40:10 -0400 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] High Volume, Low Pressure Spray Gun Kit To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed $68 at HF, this might be good for painting the car? Maybe better than the foam roller method? This is about the same as a Campbell Hausfeld, Rockler, and some others I have seen. --R http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=44677 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to)
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] I learn to weld (well better than I used to) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As a test cut one of your welds back off (you do have an angle grinder right? ;) ) Nope. On the list for soon. In the words of my son-in-law A grinder is a welder's best friend... Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone notice that the interior pic is of a Ford Taurus? Allan Maybe it's one of those Ford to Luxo converts I've seen recently. A Lincoln Town Car rebodied as a Bentley, another Town Car rebodied as a Royce and now a Taurus rebodied as a Mercedes. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High Volume, Low Pressure Spray Gun Kit
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No I don't think it'll be any better than the roller method and is quite likely worse. Based on other HF tools I've bought I expect it to be quite fragile, I doubt it has any kind of water trap and it'll need a good degreasing before you can use it. Its also a real small can and will need frequent refilling. Might be okay for one panel at a time but I don't see any advantage over a roller or rattle cans for that matter. I recently amazed myself with a can of Rust-Oleum spray paint. I got a passenger-side exterior mirror for my Vanagon, but it needed to be red instead of white. I bought a can of red Rust-Oleum, and as luck would have it the color was a dead perfect match, at least to my eye. I sprayed the mirror and was just stunned that it looked as good as factory to me. Not a 20-foot job at all, this looks good standing right next to it. I realize there's probably some differences painting a larger panel, but I was truly surprised at how well it turned out. Time well tell how well it holds up. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: CL Blasphemy
Yes. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy Did anyone notice that the interior pic is of a Ford Taurus? Allan Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Triple (plus some) engined 15+ cyl monster. --R Rolf wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 190E 2.3L head gasket parts
Rich Thomas wrote: Anyone need these? --R http://charleston.craigslist.org/pts/872715431.html These parts are worth over $350. They are brand new and still in the packages. The box includes: I get about $360 looking that stuff up on Rusty's online catalog. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Curt Raymond wrote: I sure hope for the folks of Michigan that they get rid of those idiot state officials so this doesn't happen again. And I hope the entire country has primary elections on the same day from now on. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
The stage was set for this crisis with the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, ... and then he blames the crisis on the Bush Administration Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that Billybob was the Prez in 1999. How is that Bush's fault? Now Bawney Fwank, CHris Dodd, I would believe. By the way, it was NOT the Bush administration who enacted the legislation last week. It WAS congre$$$. and Bawney Fwank, CHris Dodd, and good ol BO Bama were pushing it all the way! Yes, McLame voted for it too, but he was not leading the pack. At 10:44 AM 10/9/2008, you wrote: This is what my Congressman said on the House floor pertaining to the bailout bill. He is Peter Visclosky (D) Indiana Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT September 29, 2008 Madam Speaker, in 1991, when Congress was considering repealing the Glass-Steagall Act and its regulatory framework, Representative John Dingell stated that repealing the Glass-Steagall Act would usher in a golden age of thievery. Mr. Dingell has been proven correct. As recently as September 15, President Bush was saying that Americans have good reason to be confident in our economic strength, and that We have a flexible and resilient system that absorbs challenges and makes corrections and bounces back. Henry Paulson was saying that the current turmoil in markets and financial institutions ultimately would make things better. Now suddenly, we have a crisis. The Bush Administration would have us believe that this crisis is a sudden accident of nature, that it just happened, and could not have been prevented. This crisis is not an accident of nature. The stage was set for this crisis with the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999, but this crisis is not the result of a single error in policy. It is the direct result of years and years of deliberate and cynical exploitation by the captains of an unregulated industry, aided and abetted by an Administration that has willfully failed to enforce our laws and regulations, and that hasselected individuals from the very institutions that need oversight to watch over their friends and former colleagues. This crisis is what happens when you set the foxes to guard the henhouse for 8 long years. Now we are being asked to solve this crisis that has been building for most of the last decade in seven days. But is the solution being foisted on us really going to help Main Street? Or is it simply meant to clean up Wall Street's mess, cloak the Bush Administration's abysmal failure to protect the people of this country from financial predators, and further enrich those whose covetousness has caused this problem? Is it going to help the people we represent, or is it going simply add to the profits of foreign banks? Additionally, the Washington Post of September 27, 2008, reports that the six largest banks in the world are going to emerge from this crisis even larger than before. But what about the small community banks that have been following the rules and dealing fairly with borrowers, and who will bear the brunt of the financial dislocation caused by irresponsible financial giants? Why are we leaving our smaller banks to fend for themselves, while bailing out foreign banks? Why does the Royal Bank of Scotland, with $3.5 trillion in assets, need welfare from the American taxpayer? The Bush Administration is rushing us into spending $700 billion without stopping to think things through, because there just isn't time for thinking. They say, trust us, this is necessary. I've heard this before. To me it sounds like what we were told about Iraq: that we had to go to war right away, because of the Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam Hussein possessed. Oh, that's right, they didn't exist. We were told Trust us. It sounds like what we were told when we had to pass the Patriot Act immediately to allow the government to eavesdrop on our private communications and to get the list of books you checked out of the library without probable cause; because there was a risk of terrorism. We were told that we had to fall in line quickly and trust the President. Now it's trust us again. I didn't then, and I don't now! What about the people we're supposed to be protecting? Contrast the President's urgency to help the minions of Wall Street with his disdain for the most vulnerable members of society: our children. During the last two years we asked President Bush to help provide health insurance to four million additional children in our country. He refused to do so-- twice--but now he says we have to bail out four million brokers in seven days. Where was the bailout when real people, the people I am here to represent, experienced financial crisis? When LTV went bankrupt and thousands of people lost their jobs, President Bush didn't sound the alarm. All I know is that Richard Fuld of Lehman Brothers made $34,832,036
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
Maybe Atlanta is bypassing Houston and Miami for the most morons per capita That is an interesting interior. Must be exclusive to the 1000 Diesel. It is even signed by Henry FOrd. At 12:59 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
Bozo told me he would email me photos, but did not send me the engine number after I asked him to, and told him where the plate was located. So, it is a 10 chassis with a 12 engine. I might pay 1500 for it, but not 3500 in No sale green. At 03:37 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Interesting, he wouldn't send them to me and he won't add them to the listing... --- On Thu, 10/9/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Remember this? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:09 PM He forwarded me pictures of the engine. It has a turbo. -Dave Walton On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=110296567387ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 I emailed and asked if he was sure about it having a turbo seeing as MB never made a turbo manual trans and seeing as it doesn't have a turbodiesel badge. I also asked for pics of the engine bay. He replied Who cares? The turbo is there. Maybe it was added later. I will tell you one thing, it has a lot of power!!! ZZZ...OO... Thanks for looking. Dias I've again asked for engine bay pics. I think he's full of crap about something, not sure what yet. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
thats sure cheap Rolf wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html CL Listing fail. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] fog light lens assembly
Kaleb, Maybe I can get your attention here quicker. Do you happen to have an amber fog light lens (5.5D) assembly available for my '84 300DT? Price? Thanx. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Looks like time to change my name to Chrysler and hit that big receiving line. Manfred Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:13:52 -0400 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout Oh, and the car companies sneaked $25B (with another $25B potential) in there last week too, when no one was looking. Is there no end to rewarding or supporting failure? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] USSA of the future
Get the man elected so we can just finish the path toward the new USSA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l46t_nrySg4 Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
Rich Thomas wrote: Oh, and the car companies sneaked $25B (with another $25B potential) in there last week too, when no one was looking. Oh, and a fat lot of good it did them. GM dipped below $5.50 per share today, for the first time since 1950. Was $50-60 in 1969, and has split 2:1 since then. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
why is that a sad note? it's been a long time since the democrats have been the party of bigger government than the republicans. all this stupid talk we've been hearing for so long about welfare queens and their cadillac cars -- i say scrap the war and the bailout and buy everyone on welfare a new cadillac and we will be so far ahead. i remain to this day a registered republican and have been all my life. but i am disgusted by the party of big lies, big theft and big government. the republicans are like the preacher who spends all day on about the fags and druggies, while he does crystal meth with his male prostitute lover. come to think of it, the same people are supporting both sets of liars. someone breaks into your house and steals all your stuff, so the answer is to go get new stuff and then just plain give it to them? is this the logic of this bailout? On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Mitch Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what my Congressman said on the House floor pertaining to the bailout bill. He is Peter Visclosky (D) Indiana It's a sad note when the Democrats appear to be the fiscally responsible ones... :P -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
i'm thinking of selling everything i own and buying GM and ford stock with the proceeds On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Oh, and the car companies sneaked $25B (with another $25B potential) in there last week too, when no one was looking. Oh, and a fat lot of good it did them. GM dipped below $5.50 per share today, for the first time since 1950. Was $50-60 in 1969, and has split 2:1 since then. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Blasphemy
Rolf wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/ctd/872623734.html What's that blue oval in the middle of the steering wheel? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
First of all, I have NO interest in buying another car right now. I need to SELL cars. But as an anti-bozo service to all on the list, I am helping to discover what this turkey really is. He did send me pictures of the engine bay, and as previously posted, it is either a .12. turbo engine, not original, or worse yet, some bozo hung a turbo on the .10. euro non-turbo engine, a recipe for disaster. In response to the engine photos I sent him this: Thank you. Can you send me a picture of the engine number plate, if the numbers are readable, or an email with the engine number form the plate? Thanks. This is either not the original engine, or the original engine has been improperly modified. Therefore, I can't bid without knowing the engine number. If anyone on the list buys it or looks at the car, please inform the list. (after the conclusion of the sale, if you are bidding). At 03:37 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Interesting, he wouldn't send them to me and he won't add them to the listing... --- On Thu, 10/9/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Remember this? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:09 PM He forwarded me pictures of the engine. It has a turbo. -Dave Walton Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
I agree, a much more sensible way to do it. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 5:55 PM Curt Raymond wrote: I sure hope for the folks of Michigan that they get rid of those idiot state officials so this doesn't happen again. And I hope the entire country has primary elections on the same day from now on. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Remember this?
My wife loves this color combination and adores the interior so I was interested in it. Then the price when crazy and the questions started. The guy is obviously not being up front. Any good seller would have made a note about being told by LOTS of potential bidders that the car obviously has something up. That and the fact that he never lists the replies to emails and doesn't post engine pics makes me very nervous of this one... -Curt --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Remember this? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 7:38 PM First of all, I have NO interest in buying another car right now. I need to SELL cars. But as an anti-bozo service to all on the list, I am helping to discover what this turkey really is. He did send me pictures of the engine bay, and as previously posted, it is either a .12. turbo engine, not original, or worse yet, some bozo hung a turbo on the .10. euro non-turbo engine, a recipe for disaster. In response to the engine photos I sent him this: Thank you. Can you send me a picture of the engine number plate, if the numbers are readable, or an email with the engine number form the plate? Thanks. This is either not the original engine, or the original engine has been improperly modified. Therefore, I can't bid without knowing the engine number. If anyone on the list buys it or looks at the car, please inform the list. (after the conclusion of the sale, if you are bidding). At 03:37 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: Interesting, he wouldn't send them to me and he won't add them to the listing... --- On Thu, 10/9/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Remember this? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 3:09 PM He forwarded me pictures of the engine. It has a turbo. -Dave Walton Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fannie Mae and Clinton - debates / congress / rant
Won't happen on TV - not enough entertainment value. You mean actual debate? And moderation of that debate? What a concept! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What, Mellow Mushroom? Nah, they're still around thought. I'm talking about Pizza Express. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: bailout
and then he blames the crisis on the Bush Administration Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but my recollection is that Billybob was the Prez in 1999. With a VERY repugnant congress. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Where do the employers get the money to pay us, from those who buy the stuff they sell - it;s still the consumer who pays for everything. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ultimately, the customer (us) pays for everything. For those of us employed by others, do not the employers in some sense pay for everything? It gets complicated if you think about it too much. :-) -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC tools
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I notice that my latest Harbor Freight flier has an AC evacuation pump, a real one, for $90. #98076 (I'm sure my $100 JBI pawn shop find is a better unit, but this thing is probably good enough.) Should be just the ticket for DIY AC servicing. They've also got the R134a gauge set on sale for $40. #92649 I broke down and ordered both. I've been wanting both for a while. I'll let you know how they work when they arrive. Sort of the wrong time of year for A/C work -- maybe that's why they're on sale. Finding an R12 gauge set is now an exercise in used tool shopping. They're plentiful on eBay, or so it seems Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel
The lock knob unscrews. You really MUST remove it to get the door panel back on -- it goes into place from above to get the hooks in the door. I just managed to yank my armrest loose -- one of the hooks was already broken, I think, and the other one gave way when I had to pull pretty hard to get the stinking latch to close (300,000 miles, I really need to adjust that door, I think). Peter On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, LarryT wrote: Hi Gang - Yeserday I decided to change out my broken drivers door safety strap. The strap was super simple - 3 small bolts and a pin, then the reverse. Couldn't have been easier. What was much more difficult than I expected was the stupid inside door panel and all those little plastic clips holding it in place. Naturally I broke one of the clips- didn't even see where it came from - just saw it broken on the ground! what fun - I never did find the way to remove the push-button that locks/ unlocks the doors - leaving it in place meant the door panel had to stay semi-attached to the door. My wife helped put the new strap in place - my arms are too big to fit. Then when it came time to put the door panel back on I found the clips holding the rubber wipe to the inside of the window had all fallen off. And naturally I hadn't looked to see how they came off making replacing them more difficult. Also, the arm rest clips don't seem to be clipped into the door making the arm rest stay away from the door by 3/8 to 1/2 - Oh well, what fun is it to replace parts and not end up more frustrated than when I started ;-) So, tomorrow, (when my wife's car will be home) I'll likely remove the door panel again and try to replace the inner door and fix the problems I caused. Hmmm... wonder what I'll screw up this time? Larry T (91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap 87 300D, front another list
Original Message Subject: [Mercedes] 87 300D 202K miles $599 Santa Clara CA Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Sixto Orosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw yuesterday an 87 300D with a for sale sign showing $599, 202K miles. It's on Homestead just north of San Tomas in Santa Clara. Phone number is 408 207-8425. It's dark blue, very faded all over and looks hand painted in some areas, over light gray. The interior is tex but the rear seat bottom is leather. Has a dash mat and a towel over the rear deck. No rust underneath or anywhere. It has lower panel under the engine but not under the transmission. ACC is set in the white zone so maybe AC works. Sixto 87 300D ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mercedesmailinglist.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081009/7a84bd11/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fossett wreckage photos
Interesting. Too bad most of the photos are of the helicopter and other assorted non-sense with no overview of the wreckage. To my very untrained eye, it appears that the prop was NOT turning on impact, or turning slowly and windmilling -- I've seen props that hit the ground under power, they are usually rolled more than 90 degrees away from rotation and often backwards, too (since the whack the ground a dozen or more times before the engine gets torn loose) so it's possible he lost power and had to glide in and got snake bit. A slight up-angle would be correct if that is the case, attempting to make the best belly landing he could. I also find the condition of the engine suspicious -- I would assume it was thrown free of the fire area (although I don't know that) and the condition of the pistons on the side with the jugs torn off looks like pre-impact damage to me at first glance -- piston looks rather burnt, not just smashed. No flight recorder, no forensic evidence from the remains to speak of, this one is going to be a tough one to figure out if the engine was running. Peter On Oct 8, 2008, at 10:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fwd: Subject: Fosset Wreckage Photos This is close to Reds Meadow's, and less that 8 miles from Mammoth Estates. Not a good place to land an airplane. If you had the altitude to clear the Mammoth/June Mountain North/South run you would have a good chance of making it into the Owens Valley. Fosset, must have had physical impairments, severe engine failure, or run into one hell of a downdraft. The accident report should be a doozy! Fosset Wreckage Photos If you have not seen these photos on flickr posted by one of the ground SAR guys (not CAP) from the Fossett crash site, take a moment and notice the terrain and the size of the pieces. With the current altitude restrictions you have to be pretty sharp and vigilant to find the target. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rockwellb/sets/72157607737959209/ ** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News amp; more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant
Ain't going to happen with the deranged bunch running congre$ now! DO NOT vote for incumbents, especially if they voted for the billionaire bailout! At 07:39 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: I agree, a much more sensible way to do it. --- On Thu, 10/9/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Coffee Rant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 5:55 PM Curt Raymond wrote: I sure hope for the folks of Michigan that they get rid of those idiot state officials so this doesn't happen again. And I hope the entire country has primary elections on the same day from now on. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fossett wreckage photos
I second these comments, as a formally untrained, but not uninformed eye. At 11:02 PM 10/9/2008, you wrote: To my very untrained eye, it appears that the prop was NOT turning on impact, or turning slowly and windmilling -- I've seen props that hit the ground under power, they are usually rolled more than 90 degrees away from rotation and often backwards, too (since the whack the ground a dozen or more times before the engine gets torn loose) so it's possible he lost power and had to glide in and got snake bit. A slight up-angle would be correct if that is the case, attempting to make the best belly landing he could. I also find the condition of the engine suspicious -- I would assume it was thrown free of the fire area (although I don't know that) and the condition of the pistons on the side with the jugs torn off looks like pre-impact damage to me at first glance -- piston looks rather burnt, not just smashed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel
Thx Peter - I'll try again to unscrew it - but I did try that 1st. I must have turned it 30-40 times - about 1/3 turn with each twist, so maybe 10-12 complete 360 deg turns. I used a pair of pliers lightly on it and I could tell it was turning but it seemed like the whole rod was turning. Is that possible? Once the panel could be pulled back I tried to see if it could be popped off or something - couldn't see anything and didn't want to pull the panel back too far as the knob was bending - didn't want it to jam making it impossible to lock/unlock.. I intended to check the WSM but promptly forgot shortly afterward ;-\ but I'll try again tomorrow. I assume you are speaking from experience? Thx agn - Larry T 91 300D 2.5T - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel The lock knob unscrews. You really MUST remove it to get the door panel back on -- it goes into place from above to get the hooks in the door. I just managed to yank my armrest loose -- one of the hooks was already broken, I think, and the other one gave way when I had to pull pretty hard to get the stinking latch to close (300,000 miles, I really need to adjust that door, I think). Peter On Oct 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, LarryT wrote: Hi Gang - Yeserday I decided to change out my broken drivers door safety strap. The strap was super simple - 3 small bolts and a pin, then the reverse. Couldn't have been easier. What was much more difficult than I expected was the stupid inside door panel and all those little plastic clips holding it in place. Naturally I broke one of the clips- didn't even see where it came from - just saw it broken on the ground! what fun - I never did find the way to remove the push-button that locks/ unlocks the doors - leaving it in place meant the door panel had to stay semi-attached to the door. My wife helped put the new strap in place - my arms are too big to fit. Then when it came time to put the door panel back on I found the clips holding the rubber wipe to the inside of the window had all fallen off. And naturally I hadn't looked to see how they came off making replacing them more difficult. Also, the arm rest clips don't seem to be clipped into the door making the arm rest stay away from the door by 3/8 to 1/2 - Oh well, what fun is it to replace parts and not end up more frustrated than when I started ;-) So, tomorrow, (when my wife's car will be home) I'll likely remove the door panel again and try to replace the inner door and fix the problems I caused. Hmmm... wonder what I'll screw up this time? Larry T (91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel
I'll try again to unscrew it - but I did try that 1st. I must have turned it 30-40 times - about 1/3 turn with each twist, so maybe 10-12 complete 360 deg turns. That's not enough. I used a pair of pliers lightly on it Why? They normally unscrew easily by hand. It rolls between your fingers, you get more like one complete turn per twist. Doesn't take any time at all, and fingers don't chew up the plastic. Honestly, it's always been the easiest part of the job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] debates
So was it the debaters' enthralling answers or replies that made you draw that conclusion,since the questions were LAME? Just curious? in my opinion there no responses from either participant (not debater) that truly qualify as answers for me!!! Tom Brokaw did a lousy job of question selection And it was explained that only six questions were selected from SIX MILLION submitted via the Internet! Suggestion: Put the two participants across a table from each other for two hours and let them ask each other questions and neither should accept non-answers or stump speech replies. My first question would be: Explain the origin of the Federal Reserve System,and how the Federal Reserve System works and who owns the Fed? Actually 3 questions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel
Unless some wise-acre glued it on because it kept unscrewing. I've lost count of the number of times I've pulled one of these door panels. Easiest and most reliable system I've seen so far. Now if I can just find that gray left front replacement for my car... Peter On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I'll try again to unscrew it - but I did try that 1st. I must have turned it 30-40 times - about 1/3 turn with each twist, so maybe 10-12 complete 360 deg turns. That's not enough. I used a pair of pliers lightly on it Why? They normally unscrew easily by hand. It rolls between your fingers, you get more like one complete turn per twist. Doesn't take any time at all, and fingers don't chew up the plastic. Honestly, it's always been the easiest part of the job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel
Hi Jim, I know! Been unscrewing the ones on my W123 just as you describe for 20+ years! And 2 W108s a W116 before the 123! I couldn't believe how hard it was to unscrew - and after a few turns I decided something must be wrong stopped. I really appreciate your suggestions though -- Thx - Larry T ;-) - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Door Panel I'll try again to unscrew it - but I did try that 1st. I must have turned it 30-40 times - about 1/3 turn with each twist, so maybe 10-12 complete 360 deg turns. That's not enough. I used a pair of pliers lightly on it Why? They normally unscrew easily by hand. It rolls between your fingers, you get more like one complete turn per twist. Doesn't take any time at all, and fingers don't chew up the plastic. Honestly, it's always been the easiest part of the job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
