Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant
Agreed. In typical fermentation, the yeast does not make ethanol. It makes an enzyme that converts the sugar to ethanol. I don't see how that process would result in a diesel fuel. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm. All they talk about is yeast and sugarcane. How do you get diesel from that? Ethanol, sure. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/11/11/11gigaom-amyris-opens-synthetic-diesel-pilot-plant-15178.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GPS [was: Re: I need a GPO}
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:02:07 -0500 Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. GPS = Global Positioning System The Nüvi 360 is a good unit. I was looking at that but decided to get the Nüvi 750. My budget is 200 dollars. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. The best prices I found were at Amazon.com. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? The maps most likely will be out-of-date, but with the Garmin units, you get one free map update in the 30 days after you register the unit (which you should do to update the GPS' operating system). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis
OK Don wrote: It's not a Benz, and it's not a 124 300D 2.5T. Why are you even thinking about it? Well, I have concluded that the only MB's I am comfortable in are the 124 and 126. I don't want a 126 gasser because of the gas mileage. I would love to have another 300D 2.5 (want to trade me for a very nice Volvo?), but the prices on them are crazy high. I can't even find one for the same price you paid for mine unless it has over 300,000 miles and is in pretty crappy shape cosmetically. The 124 gassers are cheaper right now, but I haven't found many nice ones. I am still looking for a 124 or 126 that meets all my requirements. But in the interim, I thought I might be able to get this Crown Vic cheap and drive it for a while. I don't keep cars for very long. The longest I have ever driven a car was your 300D 2.5 and that was for 3 years. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
To make up for sourcing calipers locally I ordered UCAs and shocks for my 240D last night. I'm reasonably sure when I take it for inspection on Friday its going to fail. The idea is to have the parts on hand to swap in so I can take it back Saturday. The state of MA is really ugly about inspection. I registered the car last Friday thinking I'd have time to get the brakes done and get inspection on Saturday. WRONG. Now I need to get it inspected by Friday (7 days from the day of registration) or they'll charge me a fine... Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
I consider myself a prosumer photographer, having shot medium format stock work for a number of years. BH is good if you're OK with buying over the Internet - they do a great job. If you want to go the used route, KEH is definitely the one, as King has done a great job with their reputation of grading very, very conservatively. I have bought a fair amount of gear from them over the years and never been disappointed. That being said, their prices for used equipment are a little high. If you want used stuff, consider buying off eBay from a seller with a good feedback rating that allows you to return the equipment if not as described or defective. The used market is literally in the toilet these days, and you can get some incredible deals right now. I was just looking at the prices on medium format Mamiya gear the other day, and was shocked at how low it was going. The whole bag of Mamiya gear I own is worth about 10% of the new value these days. Thank goodness I wasn't looking to sell! I highly recommend the folks at BDC Camera Repair in Madison, WI for any calibration, cleaning or repairs. They do a fantastic job, have a good turnaround and are very customer oriented. Dan --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:19 AM On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Andrew wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. Different strokes - I think the 123 wagon is good looking. It has a certain country home status symbol look to it. But, I think the 124 is better looking - especially the last few years when they had all the upgrades. The best looking 124 is the 95 in my opinion. I also really like the 124 Coupe. But, the best looking (of the modern cars) is the 126 coupe. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need a GPS
I just installed Garmin Mobile on my Samsung Blackjack II for free. I have the complete 2009 USA map loaded and it works well. If I need, I also have Google Maps installed and can install Microsoft Live Maps. All work with the internal GPS. Luther Anthony Galioto wrote: I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. She doesn't need all the extra bells and whistles only good navigation. I would like the 4.5 inch screen, but it's not necessary and text to sound feature. My budget is 200 dollars. She is in the NYC area but travels into all the nearby states. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 fuel/electronic question
Yes, and I checked all the fuses last spring when it was doing this. If memory serves, these components are on different circuits, but fail simultaneously. SO maybe it is a ground problem under the dash? Last night was raining and near freezing. I want to try working on it inside, in the dry, with light, and preferably when it is not freezing. I found a couple of places on the MAS screen where the plastic was broken, but hanging at an angle, which could cause turbulence. Also, the oring to seal the MAS to the air filter box had been out of place, which might also cause some turbulence. I am assuming that turbulent flow might cause a false reading. We will try running it today. When i worked on the car this summer, I did not remove the air cleaner top from the MAS body. If I had, I would have found the oring out of place. Is there any way to test the MAS out of the car with simple equipment? Ohmmeter or voltmeter... At 09:37 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Fuses? Remember the Marshall plan Hendrik Loren Faeth wrote: I will try to check out the MAS and o2 sensor components tonight or tomorrow. Anyone have advise about how to check them other than buy a new one and replace it like the dealers do? Now there are other symptoms: Error code 10 MAS voltage too high/too low (TENDS TO INDICATE THE mas IS THE CULPRIT) Turn signals/emergency flashers/rear defrost don't work. All have intermittently worked or not worked. Not sure if this is unrelated or related to the idle problem TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:05 AM You should be happy to be living in such a progressive state that is looking out for your best interests. I left 9 yr ago, never looked back. How's Deval workin out fuh ya theah? Things going well? --R PS, I hope you had a wonderful experience at the registry, the workers there were always so pleasant Curt Raymond wrote: To make up for sourcing calipers locally I ordered UCAs and shocks for my 240D last night. I'm reasonably sure when I take it for inspection on Friday its going to fail. The idea is to have the parts on hand to swap in so I can take it back Saturday. The state of MA is really ugly about inspection. I registered the car last Friday thinking I'd have time to get the brakes done and get inspection on Saturday. WRONG. Now I need to get it inspected by Friday (7 days from the day of registration) or they'll charge me a fine... Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need a GPO
I bought a Garmin Nuvi 750 'bout 2 months ago at Sam's for $300. 'Has latest maps. Wilton - Original Message - From: Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: [MBZ] I need a GPO I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. She doesn't need all the extra bells and whistles only good navigation. I would like the 4.5 inch screen, but it's not necessary and text to sound feature. My budget is 200 dollars. She is in the NYC area but travels into all the nearby states. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
We won't get fooled again --R Curt Raymond wrote: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:05 AM You should be happy to be living in such a progressive state that is looking out for your best interests. I left 9 yr ago, never looked back. How's Deval workin out fuh ya theah? Things going well? --R PS, I hope you had a wonderful experience at the registry, the workers there were always so pleasant Curt Raymond wrote: To make up for sourcing calipers locally I ordered UCAs and shocks for my 240D last night. I'm reasonably sure when I take it for inspection on Friday its going to fail. The idea is to have the parts on hand to swap in so I can take it back Saturday. The state of MA is really ugly about inspection. I registered the car last Friday thinking I'd have time to get the brakes done and get inspection on Saturday. WRONG. Now I need to get it inspected by Friday (7 days from the day of registration) or they'll charge me a fine... Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
You prefer the 123 wagon as a highway car only because you have never owned an SDL. I like the 123 wagon, but I have grown to like the 124 300TD better. There were less than 2000 imported to the US, so they will always be a collectible car in the US. At 07:58 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss Boy has THAT song been running through my head since last week... Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler V250
Gerry, and Cohorts. Daimler SP250 is the car that I most drooled over when I was in the UK. The Lady next door had an A.C Cobra and an SP. I thought she was too old to drive such cars, she may have been 40, not old from my present point of view! I owned a Mini and wanted, lusted after, a real sports car. A V8 sexy/slippery looking sports car for me! Jeeez, I'm getting old! Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:43 PM 11/11/2008, you wrote: Saw a Daimler V250 in perfect condition at hardware store parking lot today if anyones interested. Didn't get a chance to talk to owner. Custom tag read NOTAJAG. It looked like a Jag from a distance. Didn't pull up anything specific about it on Google. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need a GPO
At least the first update on the TomTom built into my IPAQ Rx5915 was free - a new map of the US and Canada [I think, never been there - it does cover Alaska]. 1.7 gig download. Don't know about another later this year. Not worth it for me to spend money on it as nothing I do is that critical. I do like the voice prompts telling me which lane to get into after a turn - at times very helpful when in an unfamiliar city. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I need a GPO I use a 5 year old Garmin. Maps I update every 2 years at cost of $150. I bought my wife a refurbish Garmin from Tiger, cost was $80 or so, latest mars. It works FINE. More money buys toys and whistles, I just wanted a GPS. IMHO, voice prompts are useless and distracting. I just have mine set to chime at an upcoming change of direction. YMMV, Pete -- Original message -- From: Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. She doesn't need all the extra bells and whistles only good navigation. I would like the 4.5 inch screen, but it's not necessary and text to sound feature. My budget is 200 dollars. She is in the NYC area but travels into all the nearby states. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need a GPO
GPO? In my experience, that is a Group Policy Object in Winders Active Directory. At 08:02 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. She doesn't need all the extra bells and whistles only good navigation. I would like the 4.5 inch screen, but it's not necessary and text to sound feature. My budget is 200 dollars. She is in the NYC area but travels into all the nearby states. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
I'll second BH but its not for the anti-semitic. Don't call on Saturday... They can be a bit gruff on the phone but will help you if you're nice but persistant. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:19:24 -0600 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine
Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis
The 126 market seems to be in the toilet. $2000 looks to buy a pretty nice car. I'm even considering one... -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:45:39 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK Don wrote: It's not a Benz, and it's not a 124 300D 2.5T. Why are you even thinking about it? Well, I have concluded that the only MB's I am comfortable in are the 124 and 126. I don't want a 126 gasser because of the gas mileage. I would love to have another 300D 2.5 (want to trade me for a very nice Volvo?), but the prices on them are crazy high. I can't even find one for the same price you paid for mine unless it has over 300,000 miles and is in pretty crappy shape cosmetically. The 124 gassers are cheaper right now, but I haven't found many nice ones. I am still looking for a 124 or 126 that meets all my requirements. But in the interim, I thought I might be able to get this Crown Vic cheap and drive it for a while. I don't keep cars for very long. The longest I have ever driven a car was your 300D 2.5 and that was for 3 years. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second BH but its not for the anti-semitic. Don't call on Saturday... They can be a bit gruff on the phone but will help you if you're nice but persistant. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:19:24 -0600 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 fuel/electronic question
-- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, and I checked all the fuses last spring when it was doing this. Fuses, you don't Check Them, You change them! They actually build an internal resistance that will cause all kinds of grief. All the Old Timers on this list have BTDT Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing... Not normally, but I believe it could be ordered with it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Camera Stores
On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just looking at the prices on medium format Mamiya gear the other day, and was shocked at how low it was going. The whole bag of Mamiya gear I own is worth about 10% of the new value these days. Yeah--I have a bag of Mamiya 6x6 gear, too--two bodies, 4 lenses. May never use it again, but am sure not going to sell it given what it's worth now! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MA inspection
On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The state of MA is really ugly about inspection. When my brother and I were teenagers growing up in MA back in the early '70s, the only way we got stickers on our various rag-tag beater foreign cars was by having our mom take them in for us. She'd dress up like a proper lady, drive into the station in, for example, a Fiat 1500 roadster with more rust than sheetmetal, spin a big story about how her husband was going to restore it for her, and after getting a lecture Lady, this car ain't SAFE she'd generally drive out with a sticker. (Her training: my folks first car was an MG TD, and yes, mom can double-clutch.) As payback, I now let her drive my 300SD whenever she wants. She loves it like nothing she's ever driven before. Ditto my dad, the retired physicist. The MA inspectors in my town would turn down gearhead kids with glee. Thank God Iowa has no inspection whatsoever. They even stopped inspecting cars at owner transfer long time ago. Dan Left MA like a bat out of hell ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WW2 Daimler Benz Aircraft Engine
The USAF museum at Dayton O had a German ME109 engine sitting on the floor when i was there 20 some years ago. It was an amazing engine to look at. Compared to the contemporary engines from other countries, the engine was a work of art. The engine is NOT Mercedes Benz. They were built by Daimler Benz, and the engine tag clearly said Daimler Benz. They are indeed a narrow inverted V design. There was no comparable HP US engine/airframe combination, until later in the war: 1943 to 1944. The (GM) Allison was also a v12, and it was contemporary, first being used on a large scale on the Curtiss P-40. The English had the Rolls Royce v12, as used in the Hurricane, the Spitfire and several other airframes. These engines did not have the power/weight ratio or the HP of the DB engine until late in the war, as I previously stated. The Germans used the DB v12 engine and a lightened version of the ME109 to set altitude and speed records form 1937 to 1939. Many of those records stood for many many years. Most of these three V type engines used a dry sump system to provide positive oil pressure in any position I know the Allison and the DB did. I am not sure about the RR engine, but I believe it was also dry sump. MB content: the MB 6.9 used a dry sump oil system. I can't remember the M number of the aircraft engine. I do remember that it was one of the most amazing and beautiful works of industrial art I have ever seen. At 09:48 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 fuel/electronic question
That indeed was Herr Doktor's mantra, but I have many 20 to 40 year old fuses working. I did change the fuses with no result. At 09:59 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, and I checked all the fuses last spring when it was doing this. Fuses, you don't Check Them, You change them! They actually build an internal resistance that will cause all kinds of grief. All the Old Timers on this list have BTDT Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
I have seen several 126 gassers with it. I always thaought a 126 with hydraulic suspension would be nice. However a 126 on springs is still as good as or better riding than a 123 with SLS. I've had both; several 123 wagons. The 126 wins, hands down. At 10:04 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing... Not normally, but I believe it could be ordered with it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MA inspection
Dan wrote: Thank God Iowa has no inspection whatsoever. They even stopped inspecting cars at owner transfer long time ago. We have no inspections here in Kansas for yearly licensing (I wish we did, there are some very unsafe cars on the road). The only inspection we have is if you bring a car in from another state, it has to be inspected. But, it is not a safety inspection, they just check to make sure it isn't stolen and they check to make sure the various vin plates all match. In Missouri (where I am from), they do have safety inspections. But, there was a system (at least in Springfield). The crappier the place looked, the more likely you were to pass. When I was at the dealership, we did inspections and I felt like the guys really did them. I remember failing people who just went to the bad part of town and got an inspection. I had a car when I was 17 that I knew wouldn't pass, so I went to one of those places. Inspections were only $7 back then. The guy asked for my money, gave me the sticker and told me to honk the horn before I left. That was the extent of his inspection. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second BH but its not for the anti-semitic. Don't call on Saturday... They can be a bit gruff on the phone but will help you if you're nice but persistant. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:19:24 -0600 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant
Hm. All they talk about is yeast and sugarcane. How do you get diesel from that? Ethanol, sure. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/11/11/11gigaom-amyris-opens-synthetic-diesel-pilot-plant-15178.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing... I did mention before that Marshall said the 124 wagon was more refined than the 123 and a better road car. I also mentioned I figured my 201 and Dwight's 124 are more refined than my 123 so I'd suppose Marshall is right. I've never driven a 124 wagon though. Theres one for sale not far from here. Maybe I should dump my 240D (in the near to mid term plan) and get that. -Curt --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:14 AM You prefer the 123 wagon as a highway car only because you have never owned an SDL. I like the 123 wagon, but I have grown to like the 124 300TD better. There were less than 2000 imported to the US, so they will always be a collectible car in the US. At 07:58 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
You should be happy to be living in such a progressive state that is looking out for your best interests. I left 9 yr ago, never looked back. How's Deval workin out fuh ya theah? Things going well? --R PS, I hope you had a wonderful experience at the registry, the workers there were always so pleasant Curt Raymond wrote: To make up for sourcing calipers locally I ordered UCAs and shocks for my 240D last night. I'm reasonably sure when I take it for inspection on Friday its going to fail. The idea is to have the parts on hand to swap in so I can take it back Saturday. The state of MA is really ugly about inspection. I registered the car last Friday thinking I'd have time to get the brakes done and get inspection on Saturday. WRONG. Now I need to get it inspected by Friday (7 days from the day of registration) or they'll charge me a fine... Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW2 Daimler Benz Aircraft Engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_601 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_603 Mercedes' T80 land speed record car, designed by aircraft engineer Josef Mickl with assistance from Ferdinand Porsche and top German Grand Prix racing driver Hans Stuck, incorporated the third prototype DB 603. It ran on pure alcohol with MW injection and was tuned to 3,000 hp enough, it was believed, to propel the aerodynamic three-axle T80 up to 750 km/h on the Dessau autobahn in January 1940 during Rekord Woche (Record/Speed Week). Due to the outbreak of the war in September 1939, the T80 (nicknamed Schwarz Vogel, Black Bird) never raced. The DB 603 engine was removed from the vehicle for use in fighter aircraft. Interesting. Weren't these engines made at the Sindelfingen plant? -Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] WW2 Daimler Benz Aircraft Engine To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:24 AM The USAF museum at Dayton O had a German ME109 engine sitting on the floor when i was there 20 some years ago. It was an amazing engine to look at. Compared to the contemporary engines from other countries, the engine was a work of art. The engine is NOT Mercedes Benz. They were built by Daimler Benz, and the engine tag clearly said Daimler Benz. They are indeed a narrow inverted V design. There was no comparable HP US engine/airframe combination, until later in the war: 1943 to 1944. The (GM) Allison was also a v12, and it was contemporary, first being used on a large scale on the Curtiss P-40. The English had the Rolls Royce v12, as used in the Hurricane, the Spitfire and several other airframes. These engines did not have the power/weight ratio or the HP of the DB engine until late in the war, as I previously stated. The Germans used the DB v12 engine and a lightened version of the ME109 to set altitude and speed records form 1937 to 1939. Many of those records stood for many many years. Most of these three V type engines used a dry sump system to provide positive oil pressure in any position I know the Allison and the DB did. I am not sure about the RR engine, but I believe it was also dry sump. MB content: the MB 6.9 used a dry sump oil system. I can't remember the M number of the aircraft engine. I do remember that it was one of the most amazing and beautiful works of industrial art I have ever seen. At 09:48 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Kaleb wrote: I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it. Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet. Is it a 124 300D 2.5? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine
There are a couple advantages to an inverted V engine -- the cowling is easier to streamline with the widest part of the engine closer to the centerline or lower, as the shape can fair into the wings better. You can easily get hot cylinder walls from the coolant flowing from the head to the crank (this increases volumetric efficiency by reducing the cooling of the combustion gases). The narrow cross section high in the cowling permits guns to be mounted there -- a consideration in the Me109 as it was, as were all Willy's designs, fairly frail and mounting heavy guns in the wings was a problem structurally. There are disadvantages, too -- induction can be a real pain (the DB used fuel injection which fixed that -- and a family friend of ours made the parts for the original system in the late 30's -- his father died before he got the patents and RR took it over, then let the Germans at it!). Oil handling is a problem as there have to be recovery channels along the cylinder banks to get the oil out (they are all dry sump systems) and locating the propellor gearing system can be a pain. If the Nazis had developed high octane fuel, we'd have been in much worse shape -- they never managed to get better than 90 octane av gas. With 100 octane fuel, they'd have been getting significantly more hp out of that engine! Peter -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 12, 2008 10:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW2 Daimler Benz Aircraft Engine
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_603 Mercedes' T80 land speed record car, designed by aircraft engineer Josef Mickl with assistance from Ferdinand Porsche and top German Grand Prix racing driver Hans Stuck, incorporated the third prototype DB 603. It ran on pure alcohol with MW injection and was tuned to 3,000 hp enough, it was believed, to propel the aerodynamic three-axle T80 up to 750 km/h on the Dessau autobahn in January 1940 during Rekord Woche (Record/Speed Week). Due to the outbreak of the war in September 1939, the T80 (nicknamed Schwarz Vogel, Black Bird) never raced. The DB 603 engine was removed from the vehicle for use in fighter aircraft. Wish my '87 300D had THAT kind of 603 under the hood! Actually, Dave Meimann's probably already done that swap. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
Yeah right... Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:22:21 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed We won't get fooled again --R Curt Raymond wrote: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant
This is not normal yeast. They are genetically modified to produce diesel fuel. I've read about this before. It is absolutely amazing. Sometimes they use yeast and sometimes they use some other microbe, but they can genetically modify them to convert sugar/cellulose into all sorts of different chemicals. Think oil-eating microbes used to clean up oil spills...sort of in reverse. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:11 AM Agreed. In typical fermentation, the yeast does not make ethanol. It makes an enzyme that converts the sugar to ethanol. I don't see how that process would result in a diesel fuel. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm. All they talk about is yeast and sugarcane. How do you get diesel from that? Ethanol, sure. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/11/11/11gigaom-amyris-opens-synthetic-diesel-pilot-plant-15178.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant
If the yeast is consuming the sugar and storing oil in it's cell structure, then we are not talking fermentation. That's basically what the Algae people are working on. There are better/cheaper things to feed microbes than sugar. If they are using the yeast to produce an enzyme that converts sugar to diesel, they are competing with foodstocks, which is political suicide. Technically interesting, but not a solid business plan. Don't get me wrong - we need more research like this. Just don't count on it to solve the problem any time soon. Hopefully someone will stumble across a process that actually works in the real world. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not normal yeast. They are genetically modified to produce diesel fuel. I've read about this before. It is absolutely amazing. Sometimes they use yeast and sometimes they use some other microbe, but they can genetically modify them to convert sugar/cellulose into all sorts of different chemicals. Think oil-eating microbes used to clean up oil spills...sort of in reverse. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:11 AM Agreed. In typical fermentation, the yeast does not make ethanol. It makes an enzyme that converts the sugar to ethanol. I don't see how that process would result in a diesel fuel. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm. All they talk about is yeast and sugarcane. How do you get diesel from that? Ethanol, sure. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/11/11/11gigaom-amyris-opens-synthetic-diesel-pilot-plant-15178.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just looking at the prices on medium format Mamiya gear the other day, and was shocked at how low it was going. The whole bag of Mamiya gear I own is worth about 10% of the new value these days. Yeah--I have a bag of Mamiya 6x6 gear, too--two bodies, 4 lenses. May never use it again, but am sure not going to sell it given what it's worth now! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
you got hosed by 17th street? you sure? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second BH but its not for the anti-semitic. Don't call on Saturday... They can be a bit gruff on the phone but will help you if you're nice but persistant. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:19:24 -0600 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? $10. Send them to me with a paypal invoice. Allan -- 1983 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Which will be collectible - the 124 wagon? If so then why are their prices lower compared to the more plentifull W123 wagons? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You prefer the 123 wagon as a highway car only because you have never owned an SDL. I like the 123 wagon, but I have grown to like the 124 300TD better. There were less than 2000 imported to the US, so they will always be a collectible car in the US. At 07:58 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
Tres drole. I meant to ask what is its fair market value. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? $10. Send them to me with a paypal invoice. Allan -- 1983 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I need a GPO
I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. She doesn't need all the extra bells and whistles only good navigation. I would like the 4.5 inch screen, but it's not necessary and text to sound feature. My budget is 200 dollars. She is in the NYC area but travels into all the nearby states. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine
I read the Germany oil refineries were taking a beating, and most of the av gas being used by the Germans was being derived from coal. They had a hard time getting more than about 90 octane out of it. Ed 300E 2008/11/12 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are a couple advantages to an inverted V engine -- the cowling is easier to streamline with the widest part of the engine closer to the centerline or lower, as the shape can fair into the wings better. You can easily get hot cylinder walls from the coolant flowing from the head to the crank (this increases volumetric efficiency by reducing the cooling of the combustion gases). The narrow cross section high in the cowling permits guns to be mounted there -- a consideration in the Me109 as it was, as were all Willy's designs, fairly frail and mounting heavy guns in the wings was a problem structurally. There are disadvantages, too -- induction can be a real pain (the DB used fuel injection which fixed that -- and a family friend of ours made the parts for the original system in the late 30's -- his father died before he got the patents and RR took it over, then let the Germans at it!). Oil handling is a problem as there have to be recovery channels along the cylinder banks to get the oil out (they are all dry sump systems) and locating the propellor gearing system can be a pain. If the Nazis had developed high octane fuel, we'd have been in much worse shape -- they never managed to get better than 90 octane av gas. With 100 octane fuel, they'd have been getting significantly more hp out of that engine! Peter -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 12, 2008 10:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I need a GPO
I use a 5 year old Garmin. Maps I update every 2 years at cost of $150. I bought my wife a refurbish Garmin from Tiger, cost was $80 or so, latest mars. It works FINE. More money buys toys and whistles, I just wanted a GPS. IMHO, voice prompts are useless and distracting. I just have mine set to chime at an upcoming change of direction. YMMV, Pete -- Original message -- From: Anthony Galioto [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am going to get my daughter a GPO for this Christmas. The more I look at them the more confused I get. I have narrowed down to the Garmin nouvi 360 or the Tomtom XL 330-s. She doesn't need all the extra bells and whistles only good navigation. I would like the 4.5 inch screen, but it's not necessary and text to sound feature. My budget is 200 dollars. She is in the NYC area but travels into all the nearby states. I would like to buy in a store so if it doesn't work properly I can return it without the shipping back and forth. I was told that the maps supplied with the units are not up to date. That to update them it will cost an additional 70-100 dollars, not a free update to the purchaser. Is that true? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant
You are right, neither of the processes below can be called fermentation...and I'm not sure exactly how the process works. But using sugar may not be so bad since they will be doing it in Brazil where sugar is already being turned into fuel on a large scale. There just isn't enough info in the article. Annoying. Reminds me of an article on blending D2 and BioD that recently appeared in the KC Star. She (the author) kept confusing Biodiesel and VO: B20 biodiesel is 20% vegetable oil and it went on and on. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 11:33 AM If the yeast is consuming the sugar and storing oil in it's cell structure, then we are not talking fermentation. That's basically what the Algae people are working on. There are better/cheaper things to feed microbes than sugar. If they are using the yeast to produce an enzyme that converts sugar to diesel, they are competing with foodstocks, which is political suicide. Technically interesting, but not a solid business plan. Don't get me wrong - we need more research like this. Just don't count on it to solve the problem any time soon. Hopefully someone will stumble across a process that actually works in the real world. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not normal yeast. They are genetically modified to produce diesel fuel. I've read about this before. It is absolutely amazing. Sometimes they use yeast and sometimes they use some other microbe, but they can genetically modify them to convert sugar/cellulose into all sorts of different chemicals. Think oil-eating microbes used to clean up oil spills...sort of in reverse. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 8:11 AM Agreed. In typical fermentation, the yeast does not make ethanol. It makes an enzyme that converts the sugar to ethanol. I don't see how that process would result in a diesel fuel. -Dave Walton On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm. All they talk about is yeast and sugarcane. How do you get diesel from that? Ethanol, sure. Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/11/11/11gigaom-amyris-opens-synthetic-diesel-pilot-plant-15178.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant
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Re: [MBZ] flare tool - Wilton's story
Great story. Usually people can get along pretty well, but governments have problems. I suspect it is much like the difference between meeting/passing someone on the sidewalk and passing the same person in a car. People are often much nicer in person than when they have some anonymity and are surrounded by sheet metal or 'policy.'. BillR. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:30 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] flare tool 'Reminds me of a night in Greenland in 1978. I was Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, now known as Kangerlussuaq. Early evening I was in my room reading and listening to classical music; phone rang; Base Commander asked me to go over to Officer's Club and talk to a NASA guy about a problem with one of their aircraft. They were there with a Cessna Citation and a Boeing 707 doing high altitude atmospheric research with National Science Foundation. At the club, Base Commander introduced me to the NASA guy. Base Commander knew that I had also been an aircraft and engine mechanic (maintenance crew chief) before I was commissioned and went to B-52's. NASA guy had just discovered a problem with the braking (or steering - can't be sure which now) system on forward landing gear of their Cessna Citation. A small, U-shaped piece of stainless steel 3000 psi hydraulic line was cracked and leaking. They needed to fly one more mission with the Cessna to be finished for the season. If they couldn't find or make a replacement for the part locally, they were going to fly the 707 to Los Angeles and back over the next coupla days to get a part. After the NASA guy described the problem, I told him that I may be able to help - I'd certainly try - I don't give up very easily. We jumped in my truck and went to the hanger to look at the leaking part. It was a U-shaped piece of 1/4 inch stainless steel tubing with each leg of the U less than 2 inches long with a flare and a compression nut on each end. I vaguely remembered that I had seen some 1/4 inch stainless steel tubing in a hanger that was used by the NY Air National Guard for their summer C-130 operations on the Greenland ice cap. We removed the offending part and took it with us to the National Guard hanger. In the hanger, I could see a bundle of the appropriate stainless steel tubing several feet away on the inside of a shop secured by an 8 feet tall chainlink fence topped by strands of barbed wire. We drug a work table from across the hanger up to the fence; I jumped up on the table and went over the fence onto another table inside the fence, walked across the shop, got a piece of the tubing and stuck it thru the fence to the NASA guy. 'Back up on the table inside the shop and back over the fence. Still not sure we'd be able to make a proper part, I stopped by to ask my Danish civilian contractor chief engineer if he may like to help. Years before, he'd been chief engineer on Danish sea-going merchant vessels. He was VERY enthusiastic as we rushed to our Base Civil Engineering ground equipment shop, hoping to find the tools to help us make the appropriate part. When we walked into the shop, we interrupted a card game of several Danish civilian contractor workmen/mechanics. When they realized what we were doing, they were all anxious to help and rushed to find three or four plumbing flaring tools in this shop and the plumbing shop nearby. These tools were for copper tubing, of course, but we forged ahead. Soon, there were at least half a dozen well-experienced mechanics in friendly competion to make, bend, flare, etc., the perfect replacement part for the Cessna. Special problems, of course, were: the 180 degree bend in such a short piece of stainless tubing, short sides of the U leaving little room to form the flare on each end and have the compression nut in the right place on each side also. The replacement had to be exactly like the original - couldn't be longer because of landing gear retraction restrictions (space in the wheel well). After several tries, we had an acceptable match visually. 'Rushed to the aircraft and installed it for a PERFECT fit. The aircraft flew its mission the next day and flew home to Los Angeles the next. 'Just a small part of my very enjoyable foreign relations experience and an excellent example of Danish mechanics' innovation and desire to excell. 'Much like our Jim Cathey. Wilton I had a nice snap on that would do normal and double flares. They only have double flare dies for us sizes, not metric, but I was able to make double flares with practice. The last time i needed double flares, I used my cheap flare tool and just bought the 1/8 double flare die from snappy. it worked to make double flares for MB 110 brake lines. I have never seen a tool that makes 37degree JIC flares. The only place I have seen the JIC flare used is hydraulics, and you don't want
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
*FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R * Gary Hurst wrote: you got hosed by 17th street? you sure? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second BH but its not for the anti-semitic. Don't call on Saturday... They can be a bit gruff on the phone but will help you if you're nice but persistant. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:19:24 -0600 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
I think you can use those lenses on the digital models but they won't be autofocus and all that, so you will have to fiddle with them. Old Minolta lenses fit the Sony DSLRs, as the Sony is a remake of the Minolta digital. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Tres drole. I meant to ask what is its fair market value. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? $10. Send them to me with a paypal invoice. Allan -- 1983 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
Generic arab competitors per your post, probably not the same outfit. Thieves, whoever they are. --R Gary Hurst wrote: those are not my arabs though. how do you figure they connect to 17th street photo? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R * Gary Hurst wrote: you got hosed by 17th street? you sure? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
C'mon, spread the wealth around a little andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tres drole. I meant to ask what is its fair market value. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? $10. Send them to me with a paypal invoice. Allan -- 1983 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
Rich Thomas wrote: *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. Oh, it's not a Sony? Cancel my order, then. I presume you disputed the charge with your credit card issuer? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
17th street are honest arabs. BH are honest jews. your outfit is just crooked, with pages of complaints online. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generic arab competitors per your post, probably not the same outfit. Thieves, whoever they are. --R Gary Hurst wrote: those are not my arabs though. how do you figure they connect to 17th street photo? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R * Gary Hurst wrote: you got hosed by 17th street? you sure? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
just in case you are interested, here is what you get when you google compaints on your guys. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=fotoconnection+complaintsaq=4oq=fotoconnection On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 17th street are honest arabs. BH are honest jews. your outfit is just crooked, with pages of complaints online. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generic arab competitors per your post, probably not the same outfit. Thieves, whoever they are. --R Gary Hurst wrote: those are not my arabs though. how do you figure they connect to 17th street photo? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R * Gary Hurst wrote: you got hosed by 17th street? you sure? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine
'Inverted to improve aerodynamics/streamlining. Wilton - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: [MBZ] WW2 Mercedes Aircraft Engine Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you want to go the used route, KEH is definitely the one, as King has done a great job with their reputation of grading very, very conservatively. I have bought a fair amount of gear from them over the years and never been disappointed. That being said, their prices for used equipment are a little high. They also seem to be having some difficulties on their web site right now Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
It was supposed to be a really good price though right? This sort of thing is all too common there are tons of people who have been ripped off. Lesson #1 If it seems to good to be true it probably is. Lesson #2 When dealing with a new company do a little research first. I bought a new digital video camera a couple months ago, found it online for about $100 cheaper than profeel.com where I usually buy. A quick Google showed that the other retailer (might have been fotoconnection for that matter) had tons of outstanding complaints. I passed on them and bought from profeel. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:06:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
I'm looking forward to my tax cut, so perhaps I will have a little more wealth to spread around or simply enjoy. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'mon, spread the wealth around a little andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tres drole. I meant to ask what is its fair market value. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? $10. Send them to me with a paypal invoice. Allan -- 1983 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
Yep, you're absolutely right, Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment. I shoulda done all that, knew better and know better now, but this is actually the first time I have ever had a problem with ordering something. I think at the time I confused them with some other place I had seen that had a good rep. They popped up on an Amazon search, figured they might be one of Amazon's fulfillment houses, wrongo chucko on that. Oh well, live and learn, a $100 tuition payment in the school of life. --R Curt Raymond wrote: It was supposed to be a really good price though right? This sort of thing is all too common there are tons of people who have been ripped off. Lesson #1 If it seems to good to be true it probably is. Lesson #2 When dealing with a new company do a little research first. I bought a new digital video camera a couple months ago, found it online for about $100 cheaper than profeel.com where I usually buy. A quick Google showed that the other retailer (might have been fotoconnection for that matter) had tons of outstanding complaints. I passed on them and bought from profeel. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:06:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
Along with that tax cut you'll get a UAW AIG and AmEx guy to come live with you. --R oops should be cameras not politics but you started it first andrew strasfogel wrote: I'm looking forward to my tax cut, so perhaps I will have a little more wealth to spread around or simply enjoy. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'mon, spread the wealth around a little andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Tres drole. I meant to ask what is its fair market value. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a non-digital Nikon N2000 with a 50mm 1.4 standard lens, plus Nikkor 28mm and 2000MM lenses. What is this worth? $10. Send them to me with a paypal invoice. Allan -- 1983 300d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WW2 Daimler Benz Aircraft Engine
The MBCA Star magazine had a nice article with photos and diagrams on this engine some years back (maybe about 2002?). I was impressed with the method for installing/removing the cylinders. The outside base (which was on top) of the cylinder was threaded and a BIG nut held it in place. A special wrench turned a worm gear to rotate the nut. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:25 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] WW2 Daimler Benz Aircraft Engine The USAF museum at Dayton O had a German ME109 engine sitting on the floor when i was there 20 some years ago. It was an amazing engine to look at. Compared to the contemporary engines from other countries, the engine was a work of art. The engine is NOT Mercedes Benz. They were built by Daimler Benz, and the engine tag clearly said Daimler Benz. They are indeed a narrow inverted V design. There was no comparable HP US engine/airframe combination, until later in the war: 1943 to 1944. The (GM) Allison was also a v12, and it was contemporary, first being used on a large scale on the Curtiss P-40. The English had the Rolls Royce v12, as used in the Hurricane, the Spitfire and several other airframes. These engines did not have the power/weight ratio or the HP of the DB engine until late in the war, as I previously stated. The Germans used the DB v12 engine and a lightened version of the ME109 to set altitude and speed records form 1937 to 1939. Many of those records stood for many many years. Most of these three V type engines used a dry sump system to provide positive oil pressure in any position I know the Allison and the DB did. I am not sure about the RR engine, but I believe it was also dry sump. MB content: the MB 6.9 used a dry sump oil system. I can't remember the M number of the aircraft engine. I do remember that it was one of the most amazing and beautiful works of industrial art I have ever seen. At 09:48 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: Hi all - I watched a show today* that told about the famous ME109 of WW2 fame - they said the ending was a MB Inverted V12 What's the logic behind using an Inverted V configuration? The Vs tend to be pretty tight it appears. Is it to give the designers a better shape to work with? HP was quoted as being 1100-1400 depending on specific model - (* Showdown - Air Combat on the Military channel.) Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bf-109
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Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant - what about Pond Scum?
Algae plant to open on S. Ute land Organisms will be used to make fuel for use as an energy sourceby Joe Hanel Herald Denver Bureau Article Last Updated; Wednesday, November 12, 2008 Green energy - literally - is coming to Southwest Colorado. [image: Gateway Reservations]http://durangoherald.com/shared-asp-bin/ad_redirect1.asp?account_number=465transaction_type=Buttontransaction_number=1expiration_style=Dhref=http://www.wd.gatewayreservations.com/packages/dgolodgetrain [image: custom residential construction]http://durangoherald.com/shared-asp-bin/ad_redirect1.asp?account_number=68transaction_type=Buttontransaction_number=37expiration_style=Dhref=http://koganbuilders.com [image: Come to Durango, Colorado, USA]http://durangoherald.com/shared-asp-bin/ad_redirect1.asp?account_number=114transaction_type=Buttontransaction_number=64expiration_style=Dhref=http://www.durango.org Solix Biofuels announced Tuesday that it will start construction on an algae fuel plant early next year near Ignacio. The plant will be built in two phases on a 10-acre site on the Southern Ute Indian Tribe reservation. That is just a stepping stone to building large-scale production, which is our ultimate goal, said Solix CEO Doug Henston. Henston did not say how many jobs the plant would bring, but the number will be small at first. Gov. Bill Ritter greeted the news and said the next generation will consume energy in ways current Americans can't imagine. Fortunately, the creative, ingenuous and determined researchers at Solix can not only imagine those ways, they are making them a reality. This is also great news for Southwest Colorado, demonstrating that the New Energy Economy is benefiting communities all across the state, Ritter said in a news release. The Solix operation will be different from the biodiesel plant operated by San Juan Bioenergy in Dove Creek. That plant uses locally grown sunflower, safflower and canola, and it currently produces oil for human and animal food, but not motor fuel. The Solix-Southern Ute operation will produce an oil feedstock that can be refined into diesel fuel. The market for diesel feedstock is huge, Henston said, and Solix and its Southern Ute partners hope to grow hundreds of acres of algae some day - possibly at the Ignacio site. The plant will use high-tech photobioreactors to grow algae - essentially, pond scum. We don't refer to it as that. We refer to it very affectionately, Henston said. Biodiesel plants that use canola oil can get about 150 gallons per acre per year, Henston said. But algae grow much faster. Solix is producing 1,500 gallons per acre per year at its prototype site in Fort Collins, and Henston hopes to double that growth rate. The Solix plant will capture carbon dioxide from a natural gas-processing plant near Ignacio. Algae need plenty of carbon dioxide and sunlight to grow, and both are available on the Southern Ute reservation, Henston said. Henston doesn't call Solix's technology carbon-neutral. But the plant will capture carbon from the gas facility that would have gone straight into the atmosphere and give it a second use as a motor fuel. Also, some studies show that biodiesel emits fewer greenhouse gases than regular petroleum diesel, Henston said. Southern Ute Alternative Energy LLC provided some of the $5 million investment for the Ignacio plant. Other investors include London-based I2BF Venture Capital, oil refiner Valero Energy Corp., and Fort Collins-based Bohemian Investments. The same investors also committed $10.5 million to fund Solix operations Tuesday. Solix was founded in 2006 as a spinoff from Colorado State University. Its headquarters is in Fort Collins. [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You are right, neither of the processes below can be called fermentation...and I'm not sure exactly how the process works. But using sugar may not be so bad since they will be doing it in Brazil where sugar is already being turned into fuel on a large scale. There just isn't enough info in the article. Annoying. Reminds me of an article on blending D2 and BioD that recently appeared in the KC Star. She (the author) kept confusing Biodiesel and VO: B20 biodiesel is 20% vegetable oil and it went on and on. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amyris Opens Synthetic Diesel Pilot Plant To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 11:33 AM If the yeast is consuming the sugar and storing oil in it's cell structure, then we are not talking fermentation. That's basically what the Algae people are working on. There are better/cheaper things to feed microbes than sugar. If they are using the yeast to produce an enzyme that converts sugar to diesel, they are competing with foodstocks, which is political suicide. Technically interesting,
Re: [MBZ] junker
Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... If this car is so terrible that a cop can tell it's not roadworthy just by looking at it, why are you driving it at all? RLE ** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news amp; more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
Yeah $100 isn't too bad, glad it wasn't more... -Curt --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:44 PM Yep, you're absolutely right, Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment. I shoulda done all that, knew better and know better now, but this is actually the first time I have ever had a problem with ordering something. I think at the time I confused them with some other place I had seen that had a good rep. They popped up on an Amazon search, figured they might be one of Amazon's fulfillment houses, wrongo chucko on that. Oh well, live and learn, a $100 tuition payment in the school of life. --R Curt Raymond wrote: It was supposed to be a really good price though right? This sort of thing is all too common there are tons of people who have been ripped off. Lesson #1 If it seems to good to be true it probably is. Lesson #2 When dealing with a new company do a little research first. I bought a new digital video camera a couple months ago, found it online for about $100 cheaper than profeel.com where I usually buy. A quick Google showed that the other retailer (might have been fotoconnection for that matter) had tons of outstanding complaints. I passed on them and bought from profeel. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:06:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
They look for stickers in the windshield in the northeast. It doesn't matter what's wrong. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:59:20 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] junker Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... If this car is so terrible that a cop can tell it's not roadworthy just by looking at it, why are you driving it at all? RLE ** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news amp; more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
what the heck are you talking about? Wherever you are finding these 124 diesel wagons that are cheaper than 123 diesel wagons, let me know so I can buy them. andrew strasfogel wrote: Which will be collectible - the 124 wagon? If so then why are their prices lower compared to the more plentifull W123 wagons? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
It's just another form of revenue generation in MA, gotta cover all the graft and corruption. I got yelled at once when my sticker was expired by a cop who was monitoring a bunch of phone company picketers who decided it was a good idea to take their picketing to the road leading out of our office park at 5PM (there was some kind of phone company office in the park, why they decided to PO a bunch of other people there never made sense to me, I guess it is a union thing, like the phone company isn't hated enough). He was gonna give me a hard time or a ticket or something, until the guy behind me got tired of waiting for the picketing morons and the equally ignorant cop (making his $40/hr on detail work, min 3 hr) to let him get home, did an end-around and almost ran down a couple of the oppressed workers (most of whom seemed to be rather obese and nicely dressed, as well as Filene's Basement and Lane Bryant could do anyway). I saw my opening and bolted when they all scattered. The path opened up for everyone else at that point too. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They look for stickers in the windshield in the northeast. It doesn't matter what's wrong. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:59:20 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] junker Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... If this car is so terrible that a cop can tell it's not roadworthy just by looking at it, why are you driving it at all? RLE ** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news amp; more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
Rich Thomas wrote: It's just another form of revenue generation in MA, gotta cover all the graft and corruption. I always found it odd that Carl Drega was from NH, not MA, but maybe it's the same all over up there. Maybe he took Live Free or Die seriously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Drega ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
those are not my arabs though. how do you figure they connect to 17th street photo? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R * Gary Hurst wrote: you got hosed by 17th street? you sure? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a Sony outfit a year and half ago from some sleazebag NYC outfit, they sent a returned unit (probably rebuilt or maybe even a chinese faux knockoff), a cheap Chinese tele lens (though the order specified a Sony) and some other crap, it took about a month of back and forth until they refunded 85% (15% restocking fee!). I then looked them up and found loads of horror stories, they appear to change names fairly frequently. I was glad to get the 85% back. I'll see if I can find the name of it. They were your arab competitors, extremely rude and not even very skilled at lying, which they blatantly did. Bunch of thieves. ---R Gary Hurst wrote: i used to use their arab competitors. 17th street photo or something like that? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second BH but its not for the anti-semitic. Don't call on Saturday... They can be a bit gruff on the phone but will help you if you're nice but persistant. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:19:24 -0600 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of a camera store they'd highly recommend, or warn others away from? I'm thinking Nikon D700 --- need to take some dramatic pictures of the MB fleet to rub in Kaleb's face -- and a daughter's wedding, etc. BH Photo Video, a mail order house in NY. I'm a professional photographer, among other things, and I order all my stuff from them. Great prices, great service. For used equipment, KEH in atlanta. Ditto. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500?
That was listed on CL in Atlanta? My hopes and dreams were dashed when I didn't have a response this AM. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock
Terak, It got banged up (again) in an encounter with a Jersey barrier. The front inner fender wall was crumpled in about 6 in at the bumper mount and the local shop said it would be $$$ to put in on the rack and pull it out. I considered just mounting a new outer funder over the bent inner fender but decided against it. It was an incredible car, I hate to see it go. Will keep the motor however to put in the 72 220D. Bruce --- On Tue, 11/4/08, TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 12:18 AM What's the deal with the 75 240? Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Dike Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:04 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Neutral Start Interlock Hi, The 82 300CD starter problem has been solved...almost. It needed both a new starter and neutral start interlock switch. While it waits for the new switch, can anyone tell me where to jumper the switch from inside the car? I can do it at the switch itself, but then the reverse light switch won't work. Thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 358kmi 'His' 85 300CD 263kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' headed for Ebay...snif... 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
Same here in NC for many years. Now going to system requiring inspection before license renewal. When you go to renew license, if you don't have record of appropriate and timely inspection in the DMV computer, no license renewal. Wilton - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] junker They look for stickers in the windshield in the northeast. It doesn't matter what's wrong. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:59:20 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] junker Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... If this car is so terrible that a cop can tell it's not roadworthy just by looking at it, why are you driving it at all? RLE ** Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news amp; more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redi r=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do I need
you will need jack stands Curt Raymond wrote: Do I need jackstands to do the diff on my 190D or could I do it from ramps? I need to find time to retrieve my other jackstand thats been at a friend's house (where I left it) for 5 years... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment
Yeap around here in NC they are not nearly as bad, my truck has not been inspected in 3 years. Of course they are starting to computerize things thus I will have to get one here shortly. Note it is not that my cars won't pass inspection, rather I am pretty anal about keeping them fixed near to perfection, as my Rusty invoices will attest. However I hate taking the time to wait in line to give people money. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:53 AM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Rusty's boat payment To make up for sourcing calipers locally I ordered UCAs and shocks for my 240D last night. I'm reasonably sure when I take it for inspection on Friday its going to fail. The idea is to have the parts on hand to swap in so I can take it back Saturday. The state of MA is really ugly about inspection. I registered the car last Friday thinking I'd have time to get the brakes done and get inspection on Saturday. WRONG. Now I need to get it inspected by Friday (7 days from the day of registration) or they'll charge me a fine... Once it fails inspection I have 60 days to try again but I can't legally drive it an inch from the inspection station once it fails. In practice I'm sure I can drive it home and if I'm pulled over I could talk my way out of a ticket... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - sort of - Citric acid
Yeap I use the citric acid from Mercedes to clean shower head and shower. It is great to remove lime from shower and around facets where it seems to accumulate. The other thing you can use is vinegar. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - sort of - Citric acid I used citric (bought for cleaning the MB cooling systems) on more old brass fitting today - it removed all the white 'lime' deposits in half an hour - leaving the fittings looking better than the additional new one I bought while they were soaking. This solution was probably rather strong, but it left me with no doubt that the stuff will remove any lime deposits in our engines.. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
yes Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it. Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet. Is it a 124 300D 2.5? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 fuel/electronic question
Especially if they are aluminium fuses, get copper ones. Hendrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, and I checked all the fuses last spring when it was doing this. Fuses, you don't Check Them, You change them! They actually build an internal resistance that will cause all kinds of grief. All the Old Timers on this list have BTDT Pete ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
Another $100 lesson: In 1958, I was a B-47E maintenance crew chief (USAF E-3) paid a grand total of $220 per month. I had a '51 Chevrolet; 'saw a nice-looking, excellent condition '56 Chevy 4-door sedan on stealer's used car lot; 'made a deal one day to trade; 'told salesman I'd bring 'im $100 down payment next day. I worked all night that night getting my aircraft ready for very early morning launch. Problems with the aircraft delayed launch 'til midafternoon. By the time I stopped by the stealership I was very tired, had not eaten since the night before, 'had a headache, etc. As I pulled into stealership yard near late afternoon, I saw the salesman with whom I had made the trade deal, pulled up beside and handed him a $100 dollar bill and said, Down payment on that '56 Chevrolet. I'll stop by tomorrow afternoon to pick it up. He replied, OK, I'll have it ready. Next afternoon, when picking up the new car, I saw that the $100 I had given the salesman the day before was not on the bill of sale. I asked the salesman, Where's the $100 I gave you yesterday afternoon? The SOB replied, What $100? 'Learned my lesson well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores Yeah $100 isn't too bad, glad it wasn't more... -Curt --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:44 PM Yep, you're absolutely right, Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment. I shoulda done all that, knew better and know better now, but this is actually the first time I have ever had a problem with ordering something. I think at the time I confused them with some other place I had seen that had a good rep. They popped up on an Amazon search, figured they might be one of Amazon's fulfillment houses, wrongo chucko on that. Oh well, live and learn, a $100 tuition payment in the school of life. --R Curt Raymond wrote: It was supposed to be a really good price though right? This sort of thing is all too common there are tons of people who have been ripped off. Lesson #1 If it seems to good to be true it probably is. Lesson #2 When dealing with a new company do a little research first. I bought a new digital video camera a couple months ago, found it online for about $100 cheaper than profeel.com where I usually buy. A quick Google showed that the other retailer (might have been fotoconnection for that matter) had tons of outstanding complaints. I passed on them and bought from profeel. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:06:55 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed *FotoConnection.com Right after they got the order this guy calls me up trying to upsell me a Sony lens. I tell him that is what I ordered, why do I have to pay more? He says no, thats not what you ordered (I am looking at the order and the order confirmation). Says it will be another $100 or something, what that lens is really is some other POS. So we round and round, I finally tell him just to send what I ordered, which was a Sony tele lens. So then a POS lens shows up, I call them again (line always busy, the guy who can't help me isn't there, blah blah. Order also says new in a sealed box box arrives, seal broken, came not in original wrapping, etc. Nightmare, I lost about $100 on the deal. If I lived anywhere NYC that definitely would not have happened. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500?
Not me, but r u looking for the 5 spd? My friend got the tranny, pedals, linkange, everything out of a 280 euro at u pick it. He might want to sell, not sure. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:32 PM That was listed on CL in Atlanta? My hopes and dreams were dashed when I didn't have a response this AM. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500?
He's in KC, MO. Still interested? I can forward your message. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 4:06 PM Where is he located. And the answer is Yes, how much -Rolf Christopher McCann wrote: Not me, but r u looking for the 5 spd? My friend got the tranny, pedals, linkange, everything out of a 280 euro at u pick it. He might want to sell, not sure. Chris --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:32 PM That was listed on CL in Atlanta? My hopes and dreams were dashed when I didn't have a response this AM. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] One more Carfax/Autocheck request
3GNFK16T8YG122955 Should be an '00 Suburban. Thanks in advance to whoever gets there first! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Do I need
Do I need jackstands to do the diff on my 190D or could I do it from ramps? I need to find time to retrieve my other jackstand thats been at a friend's house (where I left it) for 5 years... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 190D 5 cyl Auto gets 40 mpg
Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh. 'Thought it was technical order. ;=) I thought it was Table of Organization (aka who supervises who), or was it Theater of Operations? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who got the 5spd 280 for $500?
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was listed on CL in Atlanta? My hopes and dreams were dashed when I didn't have a response this AM. I just missed getting a stick 280 earlier this year for $500, but that was a W116 in Vancouver, WA so probably not the same one. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Crown Vic/Grand Marquis
The 126 market seems to be in the toilet. $2000 looks to buy a pretty nice car. Totally true! My 1983 300SD isn't worth too much more than the $1300 I paid for it even though it now has a new lower right ball joint, all new brakes, new exhaust header, and way better front seats. I would have to spend more to fix the pached-up non-leaking radiator, dead AC compressor, and dead lock pump than I would get back from the sale of the car. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cameras
Always the dreamer. andrew At 01:40 PM 11/12/2008, you wrote: I'm looking forward to my tax cut, Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: '01 Jetta
Thanks for the reply Harry. Rusty has the touring strut assemblies for $73... I wonder if my AZ has a spring compressor for rent? -Curt --- On Tue, 11/11/08, harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: '01 Jetta To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2008, 8:47 PM My experience is with 80s diesel Rabbits, I had three. I did struts many times and only needed the cheap (maybe $25) spring compressor. You don't use it until the strut is off the car. I clamped it in a vice, chained the spring, compressed a few inches and changed the shocks. Easy to get of and on and easy to RR the shocks. One of the two bottom mounting bolts is eccentric and is adjustable. I always made a precise scribe mark for reassemble and got away without an alignment. The Jetta may not be the same, if it is, go for it. Harry - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: '01 Jetta A friend at work as an '01 Jetta 1.8T. Nice car but the shocks/struts have had it. Today doing the bounce test it failed miserably. Rusty has shocks for $62 apiece, Bilstein Touring class or Sport for $20 more each and HD for more than that. I'm thinking Touring class is correct but my buddy is nervous. I'm also thinking struts require a spring compressor and neither he nor I want to mess with that. He's even more novice at mechanicing than I am but I'm thinking the shocks are something we can accomplish. Any guidance from you crowd? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
NH has a very high tattoo to tooth ratio. Some places up there make Appalachia look like the Riviera. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: It's just another form of revenue generation in MA, gotta cover all the graft and corruption. I always found it odd that Carl Drega was from NH, not MA, but maybe it's the same all over up there. Maybe he took Live Free or Die seriously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Drega ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camera Stores
Wilton Strickland wrote: I asked the salesman, Where's the $100 I gave you yesterday afternoon? The SOB replied, What $100? So how many months did he take his liquid diet through a straw? I can't imagine anybody convicting you of battery in the 1950s, at least not in civilian court. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
Another goodun, Rich. 'Never heard it like that before. Thanks for the laugh. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] junker NH has a very high tattoo to tooth ratio. Some places up there make Appalachia look like the Riviera. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: It's just another form of revenue generation in MA, gotta cover all the graft and corruption. I always found it odd that Carl Drega was from NH, not MA, but maybe it's the same all over up there. Maybe he took Live Free or Die seriously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Drega ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT, bordering on politics
Joe The Plumber, meet Cliff The Chef: http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/news/0811/gallery.real_people_obama_plan/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] junker
My wife had to do a rotation at the Manchester VA hosp (The Manch), it gave her considerable insight into NH culture. And the Manch isn't even upstate too far. Between that and Boston City Hospital you get a very good view of the wonders and promise of socialized medicine. --R Wilton Strickland wrote: Another goodun, Rich. 'Never heard it like that before. Thanks for the laugh. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] junker NH has a very high tattoo to tooth ratio. Some places up there make Appalachia look like the Riviera. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: It's just another form of revenue generation in MA, gotta cover all the graft and corruption. I always found it odd that Carl Drega was from NH, not MA, but maybe it's the same all over up there. Maybe he took Live Free or Die seriously. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Drega ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, bordering on politics
Mitch you are such a buzz killer. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Joe The Plumber, meet Cliff The Chef: http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/news/0811/gallery.real_people_obama_plan/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DB-601
There is a rather lengthy article about the DB-601 engine in the May/June 2003 issue of the Star magazine; eleven pages. ADS Dallas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
