Re: [MBZ] OT 87 Isuzu trooper
I had a 1988 5sd, 4cyl. I beat on it for 75Kmi. Sold it because I'd
abused it so much, I figured it's life was about up.
You see, I used it to tow my 3,500# camper all over the place. When
Towing I NEVER got it into 5th. Spend lots of time in 3rd at 50 mph.
I seem to remember that buzzed it to about 4,000rpm.
A very stout rugged vehicle that one.
I did use Mobile1, I'd been told that in such severe duty the ring
lands would run hot enough to break down dino oil.
It also road very rough. Once while traversing a parking lot with 6
of fresh snow I discovered a parking berm at about 25mph. I think the
Trooper came off the ground! My back hurt for a week. No damage
reported
--
Pete Arnold
2008 Chevy HHR, 33Kmi
2001 PT Cruizer, 98Kmi {Wife's Ride
1995 F-250 P.S.D 205Kmi, Finally Broken in!
1954 Nash Metropolitan, Hanger Queen
1998 Prowler 5th Wheel
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:28:12 -0800, you wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stumbled over an 87 Trooper while looking to see what pickups go for. Seems
like a pretty decent, straight old trooper. manual transmission.
What it worth? I think i could buy it for $1500.
What to watch out for? (other than rust)
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Re: [MBZ] Trooper
Thats exactly what I had before I got my duramax. Now it seems like a slow no power POS compared to the duramax. John Robbins wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: I don't want to pull a 126 2000 miles. But if I had a one ton truck, I know I could, given the right weight distribution. Most tonners are not geared for the highway though. A 6.5 diesel Chevy 3500 dually towed my CDI like it wasn't there. No fancy trailer or having to redistribute weight... Had 4.1:1 rear end so 65-70 was about all that was comfortable. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What A Beauty
its nice, but not nice enough for the price Robert Rentfro wrote: Mercy this looks nice. http://tinyurl.com/6nv6z7 If I only had more money than I knew what to do with. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car Trading
Man you should have got on that wagon and got it sold if you were going it. The market on those things has tanked lately. John Robbins wrote: I've owned seven cars in my 8 years of driving, and six of them were MB's. In order of purchase... 95 Mazda B2300 Pickup: First vehicle, I've put at least 100k miles on it, and it is still running perfectly. Synchro's in the transmission are about shot though. 79 300SD White - Drove it for 20k miles, loaned it to my brother as his first car and he drove it for 30k miles, died by my hand ~50k miles after I bought it. Bought it for $500, sold it for $500. Spent about $4k on it over 50k miles so overall a pretty cheap car. Never done anything but changed my oil before I bought the car. $.08 a mile isn't bad for learning how to work on cars! 79 300SD Blue - Still own it(for sale!) Bought as an upgrade to the white SD. Lost oil pressure going 85mph on the highway, drove engine another 15k miles, now has a bad rod knock, but it still runs. 84 190D - Bought from Kaleb, sold to Don's BIL, now back in Kaleb's hands. Drove the car 10k miles? I don't think I owned it a year... sold it since it wasn't nice enough for the amount of money I would end up spending on it. '87 300TD - Driven the car a grand total of 500 miles. Still sitting on the side of the house waiting for me to finish all the upgrades to it. Bought it for $3200, bought $2k of parts/tools, got halfway into tearing everything apart, and ran out of time and energy to put it back together. The ultimate goal for this car is to replace my pickup (trailer!). '92 300D 2.5T - Bought off of Sunil, was my daily driver until I made the mistake of test driving a CDI. It's now my brother's daily driver since his car ate a timing belt (interference engine). Put over 25k on it so far. '05 CDI - Bought it in April and I've already put 14k miles on it. Spent about $1700 in repairs at shops, but I now have shop manuals and will be doing more of my own work so that should go down significantly. Whenever I get ticked off at myself for buying it ($$$) driving the car just about takes care of it. The last four MB's were all in the past two years! John -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
The 8200 is the first HP workstation (in the 8000 series anyway) with SATA and the last with built in SCSI. Its got IDE as well (at least I think it does) which is pretty amazing. Its also the first HP 8000 series workstation with PCIe graphics. The case design is very good, cards and drives go in and out with no tools. Theres space inside for 5 3.5 drives in carriers mounted transversely and (IIRC) 3 5.25 drives longitudinally. Can you tell I've messed with MANY 8000 series workstations? They are the workhorse of the video world. Theres a lab near my classroom where they test big systems that has 300+ of 'em. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:00:06 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, memory To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't why I didn't think about a workstation before - I want a new PC for photo editing, list reading, etc. ;-). Looked up the HP quickspecs - it is 64 bit, will take up to 6GB in 32 bit mode, 16Gb in 64 bit mode. 5 internal drives, SATA and/or SCSI. Think I have to look for one -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: welding cast iron boxy yank tanks
I noticed a 124 wagon in my Indy's yard last night when I was picking up my 190D. I think you're right, they're quite striking. Marshall said the 124 wagon was more refined than the 123, having driven both sedans (but never a 124 wagon) I imagine he's right. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:20:36 -0800 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: welding cast iron boxy yank tanks To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You must not have every seen a W115 chassis then! A short box on top of a long box, pretty much And, I think, rather good-looking. But I really like the 124 wagon, perhaps even better than the 123 wagon. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
My point exactly - you would not be able to appreciate his accent, or his non-accent, if you happen to share it. Actually I didn't think his was very strong, but then I am a FL boy and was raised in an area where Southern accents were somewhat common. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns Bill R wrote: That one might be too old for som of you. BillR LBJ was in office when I was born. I almost came early the day JFK died. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
OK, so tell me exactly what I should look for to build up a real nice machine. Will probably end up giving this emachine to the wife. Curt Raymond wrote: The 8200 is the first HP workstation (in the 8000 series anyway) with SATA and the last with built in SCSI. Its got IDE as well (at least I think it does) which is pretty amazing. Its also the first HP 8000 series workstation with PCIe graphics. The case design is very good, cards and drives go in and out with no tools. Theres space inside for 5 3.5 drives in carriers mounted transversely and (IIRC) 3 5.25 drives longitudinally. Can you tell I've messed with MANY 8000 series workstations? They are the workhorse of the video world. Theres a lab near my classroom where they test big systems that has 300+ of 'em. -Curt Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:00:06 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, memory To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't why I didn't think about a workstation before - I want a new PC for photo editing, list reading, etc. ;-). Looked up the HP quickspecs - it is 64 bit, will take up to 6GB in 32 bit mode, 16Gb in 64 bit mode. 5 internal drives, SATA and/or SCSI. Think I have to look for one -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Fan Club?
Good stuff, that. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:29 PM To: Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] New Fan Club? With the number of classical music enthusiasts on the list, or so it would seem, I'm thinking we should start a Sir Neville Marriner fan club. Any takers? (tongue planted firmly in cheek) Dan (Academy of St. Martin in the Fields groupie) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Also iced tea is presumed to be sweetened, you have to ask for the non-syrup kind. Whenever I travel up north with people from the south they ask if they have sweet tea every time they eat just on the odd chance someone might have it. They haven't been successful yet. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
Actually I think my dad's Deville I have has some sort of magnetic shock set up that varies the stiffness depending on what is going on, but I'm not sure. It rides pretty easy on the road but when pushed actually handles very well and does not wallow much (unlike my earlier experiences with big American iron, when I started driving, and my 76 Eldo convertible with the 500ci front drive setup). It surprises me often when I push it a bit. When you stomp the throttle the V8 puts out a very pleasant growl, the rear end squats down and it runs the dial up pretty fast. Front wheel drive, just a bit of torque steer. My buddy who has an S430 likes riding in it. --R Hendrik Fay wrote: Yeah I am stuck driving crappy German cars, ooh how I'd love a big box parked in the driveway. Is that the model with marshmallow suspension? We do get a lot of Chrysler cars, like the Jeep and 300C but no Chevys or Caddies. You know if you shown me a picture of that car I would have guessed it was a late 70' or early 80's Chevy. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: You gotta allow for that kind of attitude, when people live upside down they get a bit nauseated, or nauseating, or nauseous. Plus he is probably jealous he can't drive a big ol Caddy. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shell scripts, log orders, etc.
Heh. I think you need a few more pipes there, Jim :) One of my coworkers had to do something similar, but did it ALL in awk. Think he had it down to around 30 lines of absolutely unreadable mess that looked like he turned a wolverine loose on the keyboard. And I know awk. Then again, I'm sure the lion's share of the list already thinks you did that ;) On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:37:55PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote: grep -H 'H3.*A NAME=[0-9]*.*/A' *.html \ | fgrep -v $FILE \ | sed -e 's/:/: /' -e 's// /' \ | sort -s -bd +5n$2 -6 +3M$2 -4 +4n$2 -5 \ | sed 's/\(^.*\): H3 \(.*\)A NAME=\(.*\).*$/A HREF=\1#\3\2\/A (A HREF=\1\1\/A)BR/' \ | sed -e 's@/A@@' -e 's/^/TRTD/' -e 's/(/TD(/' $NEWFILE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
It was, and while now you have power, you still have a POS. Numbers don't tell the whole story. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:09:58AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thats exactly what I had before I got my duramax. Now it seems like a slow no power POS compared to the duramax. John Robbins wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: I don't want to pull a 126 2000 miles. But if I had a one ton truck, I know I could, given the right weight distribution. Most tonners are not geared for the highway though. A 6.5 diesel Chevy 3500 dually towed my CDI like it wasn't there. No fancy trailer or having to redistribute weight... Had 4.1:1 rear end so 65-70 was about all that was comfortable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
really, how do I still have a POS? Kevin wrote: It was, and while now you have power, you still have a POS. Numbers don't tell the whole story. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 08:09:58AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thats exactly what I had before I got my duramax. Now it seems like a slow no power POS compared to the duramax. John Robbins wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: I don't want to pull a 126 2000 miles. But if I had a one ton truck, I know I could, given the right weight distribution. Most tonners are not geared for the highway though. A 6.5 diesel Chevy 3500 dually towed my CDI like it wasn't there. No fancy trailer or having to redistribute weight... Had 4.1:1 rear end so 65-70 was about all that was comfortable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
The big trick with one ton trucks is gearing, and most come geared such that 70 is about the edge of comfortable cruising. The blue dodge dually, with an overdrive transmission, 3.73 gears, and 32 tall tires certainly fits that description, above that it gets incredibly thirsty. The white one and the brown ford duallies have no overdrive and 4.10s, but are gassers. Even then, you were really spinning the engine to go 65-70. Both had the power to clear 90 loaded if you were stupid enough to do it, though. I'd be a lot happier with the blue dodge if it had 3.55 gears instead. Used to be an option in 1 ton trucks (both ford and dodge, GM hasn't had that option for a long time), but as engines have gotten more powerful and can pull taller gears, the taller gears have ceased to be an option. Don't get me started. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 08:40:56PM -0600, Loren Faeth wrote: I don't want to pull a 126 2000 miles. But if I had a one ton truck, I know I could, given the right weight distribution. Most tonners are not geared for the highway though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Smashing a remote control Smart Car
Holiday fun for everyone! --R http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/11/smashing_a_remote_control.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
the duramax, and the marketing you bought into that led you to believe the allison 1000 was not dumbed down to the realms of a 4L80E, but was really a tank transmission as the ads GM pushed suggested. Though I suppose you could have gone the other way like I did, and had the best engine in the bunch for doing work, but had it put in a truck that handled worse than a stick axle, leaf sprung 4x4 chevy dually, and nickeled and dimed you to death with stuff that really shouldn't be a problem in a truck as new as it is (window switches, electric door latches, etc). In case you're wondering, I keep that truck parked under a big oak tree with the hopes the tree will fall over one day and I will be justified pulling the engine and trans and putting it into something else. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:11:20AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: really, how do I still have a POS? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Just the thing for Hen Fay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITitem=170280823913? It also has a full set of spares! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
But still not Southern enough 'til it's properly sweetened. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Also iced tea is presumed to be sweetened, you have to ask for the non-syrup kind. Whenever I travel up north with people from the south they ask if they have sweet tea every time they eat just on the odd chance someone might have it. They haven't been successful yet. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
kind of like saying i'm bilingual because i can say ello govna. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LWB250 wrote: Hursty would be interested to know that linguists claim the basis for the southern accent is directly attributed to the presence of the slaves. That is, the white people altered their language and diction due to interaction with the slaves. Research has shown that the areas where the southern accent is most prevalent were also the areas with some of the highest concentrations of slave labor. Interesting. I knew a black guy from Mississippi who was trilingual. He spoke North, South, and Ebonics. I usually couldn't tell the difference between Tom's Ebonics and his Southern. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just the thing for Hen Fay
Rich Thomas wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITitem=170280823913? So are they selling it, or are they asking you to pay them $4.9 mil to convert it to a museum exhibit and keep it for themselves? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I dont guess I was aware there was a limit to the amount you could have, i though that was a function of the OS, but I guess I was wrong. It's actually a function of the BIOS. If the Firmware doesn't know how to address past a certain point, you aren't going to be able to add more. However, Macs regularly say Max at X amount of RAM because they engineered it when only X amount was available. But are typically aware enough to pad the firmware to see past the X amount address limitation and can therefore address more than that. Sometimes. What I'm saying is, many computer manufacturers know that a newer, larger DIMM will be introduced within the life cycle of the computer, and then attempt to code to that larger number. However, e-Machines typically goes with the lowest bidder, not the highest quality one and as such it's firmware may have been written in a time of 512 MB DIMMs so that when it was thought forward that 1GB DIMMs is the largest it can handle. The best thing to do would be if you have another machine that has the same style of DIMMs is to add one to the e-Machine from the other and see if the BIOS can address it. Though, if you have a machine that says it's maximum is 2 GB on the board, then I doubt sincerely that it has a 64 bit capable processor, which means there isn't an OS available that can address past 3.2 GB anyway. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
I didnt buy into any marketing, I just know people who have had them, and I have had them and never had any trouble. You didnt mention any specifics as to why it would be a POS Kevin wrote: the duramax, and the marketing you bought into that led you to believe the allison 1000 was not dumbed down to the realms of a 4L80E, but was really a tank transmission as the ads GM pushed suggested. Though I suppose you could have gone the other way like I did, and had the best engine in the bunch for doing work, but had it put in a truck that handled worse than a stick axle, leaf sprung 4x4 chevy dually, and nickeled and dimed you to death with stuff that really shouldn't be a problem in a truck as new as it is (window switches, electric door latches, etc). In case you're wondering, I keep that truck parked under a big oak tree with the hopes the tree will fall over one day and I will be justified pulling the engine and trans and putting it into something else. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:11:20AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: really, how do I still have a POS? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OK, so tell me exactly what I should look for to build up a real nice machine. Will probably end up giving this emachine to the wife. Mac Pro. And, before you get bent out of shape that I said Mac to you, let me explain the reasoning to you. PC Magazine has consistently said that the best Windows Vista machine is a Mac. They are engineered for quality, just like the Mercedes we all love. While almost all other manufacturers are using off the shelf parts from the lowest bidder available (and they *have* to if they want to stay competitive) Apple isn't competing with HP or even Sony. As such they still engineer a lot of their own stuff. A Mac Pro will last, and last, and last. I have what is called a Blue and White Power Macintosh G3. It was discontinued in 1999. That puts the machine right at 10 years old. It has been providing compute cycles to me for a decade, and is still a daily use machine. In fact, next weekend it will be repurposed to a Linux file server away from it's daily desktop functions. The Mac Pro will offer the same or similar longevity. The processors are socketed and therefore upgradeable, it has a maximum of 32 GB RAM capable, four dedicated SATA hard drive bays, two dedicated optical drive bays. Yes, it has a price tag that is also consistent with German engineering, but if you are honest with yourself about what you've spent the last 10 years on off the shelf components to keep on the cutting edge vs. the initial outlay for a Mac Pro over the course of 10 years, then I think the numbers speak for themselves. Heck, do an eBay or Craigslist troll of a 10 year old Mac vs. a 10 year old PC and you'll see they also hold their value like a MB vs. a Geo. My BW G3 is still roughly worth $100-$150. Sure, if you are patient you can find great deals, but to replace my Compaq Deskpro Pentium III, which isn't quite 5 years old if memory serves, I only need to spend $30-$50. Plus, you get a reason to use OS X and see if it can perform any functions of your daily needs. This is of course, just my own opinion EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shell scripts, log orders, etc.
I have no idea what any of you are talking about. Years ago, I walked into a store looking for a computer. The salesman said, you can have a DOS machine where you type in little commands, or you can have his Apple one, where you click on icons. No need to tell you which one I went for. lol But for those of you who can make any sense at all of all that computer language gibberish, I have the highest respect for you. :-) Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heh. I think you need a few more pipes there, Jim :) One of my coworkers had to do something similar, but did it ALL in awk. Think he had it down to around 30 lines of absolutely unreadable mess that looked like he turned a wolverine loose on the keyboard. And I know awk. Then again, I'm sure the lion's share of the list already thinks you did that ;) On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:37:55PM -0800, Jim Cathey wrote: grep -H 'H3.*A NAME=[0-9]*.*/A' *.html \ | fgrep -v $FILE \ | sed -e 's/:/: /' -e 's// /' \ | sort -s -bd +5n$2 -6 +3M$2 -4 +4n$2 -5 \ | sed 's/\(^.*\): H3 \(.*\)A NAME=\(.*\).*$/A HREF=\1#\3\2\/A (A HREF=\1\1\/A)BR/' \ | sed -e 's@/A@@' -e 's/^/TRTD/' -e 's/(/TD(/' $NEWFILE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shell scripts, log orders, etc.
E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have no idea what any of you are talking about. Years ago, I walked into a store looking for a computer. The salesman said, you can have a DOS machine where you type in little commands, or you can have his Apple one, where you click on icons. No need to tell you which one I went for. Now if you buy a Mac you can do either one. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
Well this is the first I've ever heard of such a thing. Usually, if given a little notice, when ice tea is required, we open little pouch of crystals, add tap water and stick in the fridge for a few hours to chill. Ice is usually viewed as a way to rip us off as ice here is cheaper than the liquid drink. Pouring hot tea over ice is just silly talk. I think what you really want is a Tim Horton's coffee, eh?? hee hee Ed 300E, who likes tea in a cup and scotch on his ice. ;-) 2008/11/27 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Also iced tea is presumed to be sweetened, you have to ask for the non-syrup kind. Whenever I travel up north with people from the south they ask if they have sweet tea every time they eat just on the odd chance someone might have it. They haven't been successful yet. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shell scripts, log orders, etc.
I've had about 7-8 Macs over the years, and this is my first PC. To be honest, it feels very similar to my old Macs, which is why I decided to give it a try. It's worked well for everything I do, which to be honest is all pretty basic stuff. As for the next one, I'm not undecided yet. I think Mac have the advantage with design. I like minimal and things clean and tidy. The idea of an all in one iMac has appeal. Then again, as laptops are becoming more and more powerful, I may opt for one of those, with a couple of external HDs for storage. Having a bunch of different boxes and wires everywhere drives me nuts. Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have no idea what any of you are talking about. Years ago, I walked into a store looking for a computer. The salesman said, you can have a DOS machine where you type in little commands, or you can have his Apple one, where you click on icons. No need to tell you which one I went for. Now if you buy a Mac you can do either one. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
My Dad had a bunch of American cars, and also had a new 450 SEL, and a 450 SL for a short time. The thing to remember, it's not that American's couldn't build a firmer riding car, it's that ppl didn't want them. The smoother and more removed from what was going on outside, the better. If you couldn't feel anything through the steering wheel, and turn it with one finger, those were GOOD things! :-) I remember when my Dad got ride of the SEL, he said it rode like a park bench. Only complement he ever gave it was, German's know who to build a big car with a tight turning circle. Think about it, for the most part, where you have roads that go on and on forever, and they are policed to keep you at 65 mph, the American for years built cars that were perfectly suited to their enviornment. I'm still convinced, if GM build a big car with the tradional boat feel, with an updated pushrod engine (which is still one of the best in the world), they'd probably sell everyone they could make. Would be a way better option to a big SUV in many ways, for most anyway. Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I think my dad's Deville I have has some sort of magnetic shock set up that varies the stiffness depending on what is going on, but I'm not sure. It rides pretty easy on the road but when pushed actually handles very well and does not wallow much (unlike my earlier experiences with big American iron, when I started driving, and my 76 Eldo convertible with the 500ci front drive setup). It surprises me often when I push it a bit. When you stomp the throttle the V8 puts out a very pleasant growl, the rear end squats down and it runs the dial up pretty fast. Front wheel drive, just a bit of torque steer. My buddy who has an S430 likes riding in it. --R Hendrik Fay wrote: Yeah I am stuck driving crappy German cars, ooh how I'd love a big box parked in the driveway. Is that the model with marshmallow suspension? We do get a lot of Chrysler cars, like the Jeep and 300C but no Chevys or Caddies. You know if you shown me a picture of that car I would have guessed it was a late 70' or early 80's Chevy. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: You gotta allow for that kind of attitude, when people live upside down they get a bit nauseated, or nauseating, or nauseous. Plus he is probably jealous he can't drive a big ol Caddy. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Shell scripts, log orders, etc.
The local university here is continually selling off their older iMacs, eMacs, and Mac workstations. I personally think the prices are on the high side for used hardware, but maybe Macs do hold their value a little better than PCs. Allan -- 1983 300D E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had about 7-8 Macs over the years, and this is my first PC. To be honest, it feels very similar to my old Macs, which is why I decided to give it a try. It's worked well for everything I do, which to be honest is all pretty basic stuff. As for the next one, I'm not undecided yet. I think Mac have the advantage with design. I like minimal and things clean and tidy. The idea of an all in one iMac has appeal. Then again, as laptops are becoming more and more powerful, I may opt for one of those, with a couple of external HDs for storage. Having a bunch of different boxes and wires everywhere drives me nuts. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
WHEN it's required? It's ALWAYS required here, and it's made by the gallon and multi-gallon. 'Gotta be served with VERY high ratio of ice to tea in ALL seasons. No, I don't want anybody's coffee, thank you. 'See what I meant about regional differences? They're ALL good, and none is no more right than the other. Most probably depends on what Mama and Daddy had. BTW, mine had very little in material things, but I'm very thankful that they gave me a strong sense of integrity, persistence, perseverance and determination. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns Well this is the first I've ever heard of such a thing. Usually, if given a little notice, when ice tea is required, we open little pouch of crystals, add tap water and stick in the fridge for a few hours to chill. Ice is usually viewed as a way to rip us off as ice here is cheaper than the liquid drink. Pouring hot tea over ice is just silly talk. I think what you really want is a Tim Horton's coffee, eh?? hee hee Ed 300E, who likes tea in a cup and scotch on his ice. ;-) 2008/11/27 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Also iced tea is presumed to be sweetened, you have to ask for the non-syrup kind. Whenever I travel up north with people from the south they ask if they have sweet tea every time they eat just on the odd chance someone might have it. They haven't been successful yet. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
What he said. Buy a Macbook Pro or better yet, a Mac Pro, pony up for a copy of Parallels and you have the very best of both worlds (if there is a best in the Windoze world, that is.) I have a G4 Quicksilver that was a big chunk of change in it's day (2001) but continues to chug along with out any problems to date. I have toyed with the idea of putting an upgrade processor in it to bump it up to 1.2Ghz or faster, which at worst would cost me less than $300, but I can't see the need right now. While it won't do anything super powerful that today's models will do, it handles mail, Web surfing and word processing as well as my 15 CD MBP and my 20 CD iMac. Someone asked me about my new 15 MacBook Pro the other day. I laughed and told them that in January it will be 3 years old. I run current release software in it as powerful as FinalCut and have no problems at all. All I have done is max out the memory and swapped out the original 100G hard drive for a 329G when they became available. It should serve me well for years to come. Dan --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, memory To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 1:01 PM Mac Pro. And, before you get bent out of shape that I said Mac to you, let me explain the reasoning to you. PC Magazine has consistently said that the best Windows Vista machine is a Mac. They are engineered for quality, just like the Mercedes we all love. While almost all other manufacturers are using off the shelf parts from the lowest bidder available (and they *have* to if they want to stay competitive) Apple isn't competing with HP or even Sony. As such they still engineer a lot of their own stuff. A Mac Pro will last, and last, and last. I have what is called a Blue and White Power Macintosh G3. It was discontinued in 1999. That puts the machine right at 10 years old. It has been providing compute cycles to me for a decade, and is still a daily use machine. In fact, next weekend it will be repurposed to a Linux file server away from it's daily desktop functions. The Mac Pro will offer the same or similar longevity. The processors are socketed and therefore upgradeable, it has a maximum of 32 GB RAM capable, four dedicated SATA hard drive bays, two dedicated optical drive bays. Yes, it has a price tag that is also consistent with German engineering, but if you are honest with yourself about what you've spent the last 10 years on off the shelf components to keep on the cutting edge vs. the initial outlay for a Mac Pro over the course of 10 years, then I think the numbers speak for themselves. Heck, do an eBay or Craigslist troll of a 10 year old Mac vs. a 10 year old PC and you'll see they also hold their value like a MB vs. a Geo. My BW G3 is still roughly worth $100-$150. Sure, if you are patient you can find great deals, but to replace my Compaq Deskpro Pentium III, which isn't quite 5 years old if memory serves, I only need to spend $30-$50. Plus, you get a reason to use OS X and see if it can perform any functions of your daily needs. This is of course, just my own opinion EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
I'm sure we're both happy to stick to our iced tea or our coffee. B, iced tea in winter? What we'll never find middle ground on is that shaved ice stuff! lol. I'm not a straw man, so how ppl can use their teeth to filter that stuff from their drink before swallowing, is beyond me. I'm convinced, the guy at McDonald's is trying to kill me everytime he puts it in my coke. lol. I try drinking fast while the shavings are still large, and I have a chance, or wait and let it melt, which makes the already watery McD's coke, turn to dirty looking tap water. Not sure what the deal is with not being able to get an ice cube at McD's. Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] WHEN it's required? It's ALWAYS required here, and it's made by the gallon and multi-gallon. 'Gotta be served with VERY high ratio of ice to tea in ALL seasons. No, I don't want anybody's coffee, thank you. 'See what I meant about regional differences? They're ALL good, and none is no more right than the other. Most probably depends on what Mama and Daddy had. BTW, mine had very little in material things, but I'm very thankful that they gave me a strong sense of integrity, persistence, perseverance and determination. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns Well this is the first I've ever heard of such a thing. Usually, if given a little notice, when ice tea is required, we open little pouch of crystals, add tap water and stick in the fridge for a few hours to chill. Ice is usually viewed as a way to rip us off as ice here is cheaper than the liquid drink. Pouring hot tea over ice is just silly talk. I think what you really want is a Tim Horton's coffee, eh?? hee hee Ed 300E, who likes tea in a cup and scotch on his ice. ;-) 2008/11/27 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: Also iced tea is presumed to be sweetened, you have to ask for the non-syrup kind. Whenever I travel up north with people from the south they ask if they have sweet tea every time they eat just on the odd chance someone might have it. They haven't been successful yet. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Contest Rules
Answered my own question. Quck Google search elicits so many choices, that there is no need to re-invent the wheel, so to speak. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
And you know they were not all that bad in many ways. I worked for a fellow who had 74 Sedan de Ville. Huge boat of a thing but really easy to drive. Rode soft and I wouldn't have wanted to do a slalom course with it but just driving it around town it was pretty decent. There was pretty good visability out of the windows as I recall and I had no problems parking it even though I was accustomed to driving a much smaller car. The Lincoln Town Cars of the day were worse I think. My former brother in law had one of the huge boxy ones and it was a bit of a bear on the road if the wind was blowing. The Caddy was smoother and did not suffer from quite as much sail effect. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR My Dad had a bunch of American cars, and also had a new 450 SEL, and a 450 SL for a short time. The thing to remember, it's not that American's couldn't build a firmer riding car, it's that ppl didn't want them. The smoother and more removed from what was going on outside, the better. If you couldn't feel anything through the steering wheel, and turn it with one finger, those were GOOD things! :-) I remember when my Dad got ride of the SEL, he said it rode like a park bench. Only complement he ever gave it was, German's know who to build a big car with a tight turning circle. Think about it, for the most part, where you have roads that go on and on forever, and they are policed to keep you at 65 mph, the American for years built cars that were perfectly suited to their enviornment. I'm still convinced, if GM build a big car with the tradional boat feel, with an updated pushrod engine (which is still one of the best in the world), they'd probably sell everyone they could make. Would be a way better option to a big SUV in many ways, for most anyway. Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I think my dad's Deville I have has some sort of magnetic shock set up that varies the stiffness depending on what is going on, but I'm not sure. It rides pretty easy on the road but when pushed actually handles very well and does not wallow much (unlike my earlier experiences with big American iron, when I started driving, and my 76 Eldo convertible with the 500ci front drive setup). It surprises me often when I push it a bit. When you stomp the throttle the V8 puts out a very pleasant growl, the rear end squats down and it runs the dial up pretty fast. Front wheel drive, just a bit of torque steer. My buddy who has an S430 likes riding in it. --R Hendrik Fay wrote: Yeah I am stuck driving crappy German cars, ooh how I'd love a big box parked in the driveway. Is that the model with marshmallow suspension? We do get a lot of Chrysler cars, like the Jeep and 300C but no Chevys or Caddies. You know if you shown me a picture of that car I would have guessed it was a late 70' or early 80's Chevy. Hendrik Rich Thomas wrote: You gotta allow for that kind of attitude, when people live upside down they get a bit nauseated, or nauseating, or nauseous. Plus he is probably jealous he can't drive a big ol Caddy. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:44:00 -0500 Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though, if you have a machine that says it's [SIC] maximum is 2 GB on the board, then I doubt sincerely that it has a 64 bit capable processor, which means there isn't an OS available that can address past 3.2 GB anyway. 2^32 = 4294967296 = 4194304 k = 4096 M = 4 G 32 bits can address 4 gigabytes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
32 bits can address 4 gigabytes. If byte-addressed. Just like disks, however, a 32-bit processor (with a suitable MMU) can address vastly more than that. Any single process, however, would be limited to at most 4GB. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Easy does it
...But for those of you who can make any sense at all of all that computer language gibberish, I have the highest respect for you. :-).. But with the Apple machine, there is no need to make sense of it, except as self-punishment. RLE G4 dual867 ugraded to dual 1.6./2G ram/couple of hard drives/Superdrive plus CD/DVD drive/23 HD Cinema display. As trouble free as my C300. ** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp; ncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Easy does it
Yup, that's what sold me on my first SE and kept me a loyal customer for many years. Well, I still am, I just haven't put much money in their pockets over the past few years. Now they tell me they mill their laptops from a single piece of stockhow's a gearhead not to be tempted?? :-) Ed 300E 2008/11/27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...But for those of you who can make any sense at all of all that computer language gibberish, I have the highest respect for you. :-).. But with the Apple machine, there is no need to make sense of it, except as self-punishment. RLE G4 dual867 ugraded to dual 1.6./2G ram/couple of hard drives/Superdrive plus CD/DVD drive/23 HD Cinema display. As trouble free as my C300. ** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp; ncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
For just regular use, email, office stuff and whatnot? xw8000, xw6000, xw4200. Should be able to get any of those for $300 or less. Dell makes a workstation line but I don't know any of the model numbers. IBM had one too but I couldn't heartily recommend any of those. Put in 3GB of RAM, Win XP 32bit and whatever you want for drives. The 4200 is single processor, the 6000 and 8000 are both dual (max is 3.0 for the 6000 I think, 3.2 for the 8000) but the 4200 has SATA drives and PCIe video so it balances out. I don't have a problem with IDE drives they're still as cheap as SATA and not all that much slower in normal use. For a couple hundred more you get into an xw8200 or 4300, the 8200 is dual processor (I forget how fast, 3.6?) supports a 64 bit OS (not sure about the older machines) although I think for normal use XP 32 bit is the better choice. It has more drive options (SATA, IDE and SCSI) and PCIe graphics which is more powerful than the older AGP. Again get 3GB of RAM and about 3x the amount of drives you think you need right now... If it were me for email and whatnot I'd get the xw6000 as its physically smaller and quieter while still being quite capable and inexpensive. As I do a fair amount of video work I'm looking to skip the 8000 and go right to the 8200 for the superior graphics. If I had a grand or two to spend I'd look for an 8400 with dual quad processors. I have a dual dual 8400 in my classroom and its smokin fast. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:15:09 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, memory To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OK, so tell me exactly what I should look for to build up a real nice machine. Will probably end up giving this emachine to the wife. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
I had exactly the same experience last February in Toronto. Heres one of the most multicultural cities in the world and they've got no unsweetened ice tea.. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:49:24 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
Ah, Toronto is always behind the times. No problem getting iced tea in Winnipeg. Although it might not meet Wilton's standards. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:47 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns I had exactly the same experience last February in Toronto. Heres one of the most multicultural cities in the world and they've got no unsweetened ice tea.. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:49:24 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
Yeah, we only got pizza here a few years ago. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/27 R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, Toronto is always behind the times. No problem getting iced tea in Winnipeg. Although it might not meet Wilton's standards. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 5:47 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns I had exactly the same experience last February in Toronto. Heres one of the most multicultural cities in the world and they've got no unsweetened ice tea.. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:49:24 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was in Toronto once at a pretty nice restaurant for a business lunch (I was buying) with a bunch of people. Asked the waiter for iced tea. He said We don't have that. I kinda looked at him and asked if they had tea. He said yes. Then I asked him if they had ice. He said yes. Then I asked him if they could put some tea on the ice in a big glass. He said no. Asked why not. He said the tea would be hot and melt the ice. So I said, bring me tea, bring me two glasses full of ice. He asked why. I told him I would show him how to make iced tea. So after a few minutes he shows up with a pot of tea and two glasses of ice. I pour the hot tea over one after letting it get kinda strong, then poured that one into the other glass of ice. Iced tea. The waiter was astonished as were most of my Canadian colleagues. It appeared to be the first time they had ever seen such a thing. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] O.T. Hallmark e-card Virus
In the past two days I've received two emails which look exactly like those Hallmark e-card things that when I attempted to open them my spyware grabbed them saying it was some wicked virus. Anyone else seen that? Be careful. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What A Beauty
No doubt Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What A Beauty its nice, but not nice enough for the price Robert Rentfro wrote: Mercy this looks nice. http://tinyurl.com/6nv6z7 If I only had more money than I knew what to do with. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wiltons grammatical concerns
The best iced tea is made by pouring freshly brewed hot tea over a glass full of ice - fresh tasting and the temp is just right. I drink both hot and cold tea - depending on mood, taste, temperature of my surroundings, etc. I find apricot flavored black tea to make excellent iced tea. I don't like Oolong iced, but do like it hot. Darjeeling is great hot. Lipton's is bad, no matter how you drink it. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:35 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well this is the first I've ever heard of such a thing. Usually, if given a little notice, when ice tea is required, we open little pouch of crystals, add tap water and stick in the fridge for a few hours to chill. Ice is usually viewed as a way to rip us off as ice here is cheaper than the liquid drink. Pouring hot tea over ice is just silly talk. I think what you really want is a Tim Horton's coffee, eh?? hee hee Ed 300E, who likes tea in a cup and scotch on his ice. ;-) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
RE: the processor upgrade, been there done that, don't bother. The increase in speed is offset by a decrease in stability. Not worth the effort... The Quicksilver is the pinnacle Mac in my mind, perfect case design. The G5 and MacPro have been on a downward slide since then. You drop a screw in that case when adding or removing a board and it falls under the motherboard and now you've got a 2+ hour job (I've never done a liquid cooled, it might be worse) pulling the motherboard because you dare not run the machine with a screw hiding under there waiting to short out the board. I also HATE the idea that I need to take my Mac to the mall (my nearest Apple Store is at least an hour away) if it has problems. For the same $2500-$3000 I'd spend on that Mac I can get an HP workstation and get next day service in my home. As far as I'm concerned its not Mac vs PC its cheap crappy hardware vs good workstation class hardware... Mac = quality hardware but any workstation class machine is basically just as good. -Curt Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:08:20 -0800 (PST) From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, memory To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What he said. Buy a Macbook Pro or better yet, a Mac Pro, pony up for a copy of Parallels and you have the very best of both worlds (if there is a best in the Windoze world, that is.) I have a G4 Quicksilver that was a big chunk of change in it's day (2001) but continues to chug along with out any problems to date. I have toyed with the idea of putting an upgrade processor in it to bump it up to 1.2Ghz or faster, which at worst would cost me less than $300, but I can't see the need right now. While it won't do anything super powerful that today's models will do, it handles mail, Web surfing and word processing as well as my 15 CD MBP and my 20 CD iMac. Someone asked me about my new 15 MacBook Pro the other day. I laughed and told them that in January it will be 3 years old. I run current release software in it as powerful as FinalCut and have no problems at all. All I have done is max out the memory and swapped out the original 100G hard drive for a 329G when they became available. It should serve me well for years to come. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
I neglected to mention before that my video editing machine is a Compaq w8000, its 5 years old I think. I got it when the company I worked for replaced all the systems we had at NBA (yes that NBA) entertainment with new models. It works reasonably well although I'd like to replace it, its a bit on the slow side for HD video... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:42:16 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For just regular use, email, office stuff and whatnot? xw8000, xw6000, xw4200. Should be able to get any of those for $300 or less. Dell makes a workstation line but I don't know any of the model numbers. IBM had one too but I couldn't heartily recommend any of those. Just got an eamil from the HP Store. How about: http://tinyurl.com/5pgqcj HP Pavilion Media Center TV m8400f Desktop PC, refurbished AMD LIVE Smarter Digital Entertainment AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core Processor 3072MB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM (2 x 512 and 2 x 1024MB, expandable to 8GB) Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT graphics card with 256MB dedicated video memory $476.99 or http://tinyurl.com/64oo85 HP Pavilion Media Center TV m8430f Desktop PC, refurbished Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q6600 4096MB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM (4 x 1024MB, expandable to 8GB) Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT graphics card with 512MB dedicated video memory $629.99 Though the second one is out of stock ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
Yeah but they are GM Holden and not GM Chevrolet, although some of the Holdons are badged as Chevy for the OS market. Hendrik with a Holden badged Izuzu ute Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: no Chevys or Caddies. I thought you called those Holdens. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just wondering, what is a good way to get vomit out of a keyboard. I got most of it off the screen but there is a fair bit stuck in between the keys and the are making a funny squelching sound as I type this. Hendrik who has an old shoe box that looks just like that Caddy, guess nobody told them that round shapes are more pleasing to the eye, like a nice pair of ti Donald Snook wrote: Well, I got the Cadillac. I love it! Here is a picture of one like it. Mine has better paint (very nice Silver) and a maroon interior. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:1989-93_Cadillac_DeVille.jpg Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
Yah, well, wanna sell me your truck for $1500? I only looked at the trooper because it is a rare rust free one, and it is cheap. At 08:09 AM 11/27/2008, you wrote: Thats exactly what I had before I got my duramax. Now it seems like a slow no power POS compared to the duramax. John Robbins wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: I don't want to pull a 126 2000 miles. But if I had a one ton truck, I know I could, given the right weight distribution. Most tonners are not geared for the highway though. A 6.5 diesel Chevy 3500 dually towed my CDI like it wasn't there. No fancy trailer or having to redistribute weight... Had 4.1:1 rear end so 65-70 was about all that was comfortable. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, memory
Nope, the key here is workstation class. In my experience media center is short for crap we figure the masses will buy because they don't know what 'media' means. Sony makes the absolute worst... Windows Media Center Edition was the worst OS since Windows ME, even worse than Vista. --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, memory To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 8:36 PM On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:42:16 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For just regular use, email, office stuff and whatnot? xw8000, xw6000, xw4200. Should be able to get any of those for $300 or less. Dell makes a workstation line but I don't know any of the model numbers. IBM had one too but I couldn't heartily recommend any of those. Just got an eamil from the HP Store. How about: http://tinyurl.com/5pgqcj HP Pavilion Media Center TV m8400f Desktop PC, refurbished AMD LIVE Smarter Digital Entertainment AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core Processor 3072MB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM (2 x 512 and 2 x 1024MB, expandable to 8GB) Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT graphics card with 256MB dedicated video memory $476.99 or http://tinyurl.com/64oo85 HP Pavilion Media Center TV m8430f Desktop PC, refurbished Intel Core2 Quad Processor Q6600 4096MB PC2-6400 DDR2 SDRAM (4 x 1024MB, expandable to 8GB) Nvidia GeForce 8500 GT graphics card with 512MB dedicated video memory $629.99 Though the second one is out of stock ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trooper
Holy crap, you haven't bought it yet? On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yah, well, wanna sell me your truck for $1500? I only looked at the trooper because it is a rare rust free one, and it is cheap. At 08:09 AM 11/27/2008, you wrote: Thats exactly what I had before I got my duramax. Now it seems like a slow no power POS compared to the duramax. John Robbins wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: I don't want to pull a 126 2000 miles. But if I had a one ton truck, I know I could, given the right weight distribution. Most tonners are not geared for the highway though. A 6.5 diesel Chevy 3500 dually towed my CDI like it wasn't there. No fancy trailer or having to redistribute weight... Had 4.1:1 rear end so 65-70 was about all that was comfortable. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
I took it that he messed up the keyboard, etc., when he saw the Caddy photo, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just wondering, what is a good way to get vomit out of a keyboard. I got most of it off the screen but there is a fair bit stuck in between the keys and the are making a funny squelching sound as I type this. Hendrik who has an old shoe box that looks just like that Caddy, guess nobody told them that round shapes are more pleasing to the eye, like a nice pair of ti Donald Snook wrote: Well, I got the Cadillac. I love it! Here is a picture of one like it. Mine has better paint (very nice Silver) and a maroon interior. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:1989-93_Cadillac_DeVille.jpg Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
You mean like putting fintails on cars, making them look like space rockets. I still can't believe that MB bought into that, at least their fins weren't as big as some. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
Not sure what driving is like down there, but here it is often mind-numbing hours upon hours of just holding onto the steering wheel and listening to the radio while zipping along the Interstate highway system. For as much as us Benz folks like to trash it, the Caddy does that very well, My 300E does, too, but Snook failed to purchase the car so now I get to enjoy it. Plus, now the 300E gets to enjoy an Obama sticker on the rear window -- Snook would not have done that. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You mean like putting fintails on cars, making them look like space rockets. I still can't believe that MB bought into that, at least their fins weren't as big as some. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
What Europe lacked in fins, they made up for with wings. hee hee Tips for the Germans, if you're going to make cars go 200 mph, don't make them in the shape of airplane wings. lol Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mean like putting fintails on cars, making them look like space rockets. I still can't believe that MB bought into that, at least their fins weren't as big as some. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. Hallmark e-card Virus
not Hallmark, but similar cards. Not a problem for me, I didn't open them knowing they were fake, as I don't have any friends. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the past two days I've received two emails which look exactly like those Hallmark e-card things that when I attempted to open them my spyware grabbed them saying it was some wicked virus. Anyone else seen that? Be careful. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] O.T. Hallmark e-card Virus
I don't worry about that sort of thing ... I run Linux. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past two days I've received two emails which look exactly like those Hallmark e-card things that when I attempted to open them my spyware grabbed them saying it was some wicked virus. Anyone else seen that? Be careful. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
I think they found that out the hard way. --R E M wrote: What Europe lacked in fins, they made up for with wings. hee hee Tips for the Germans, if you're going to make cars go 200 mph, don't make them in the shape of airplane wings. lol Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mean like putting fintails on cars, making them look like space rockets. I still can't believe that MB bought into that, at least their fins weren't as big as some. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
Can you imagine if Benz suddenly flooded America with reasonably priced W-123 and W-124 cars? New, just out of the factory stuff, not rusty beaters? They'd rule the world and send the Korean car dynasty into panic. Couldn't be that difficult to crank up the assembly line. Not like they are starting from scratch with an unproven design. And given the American economy, ... On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think they found that out the hard way. --R E M wrote: What Europe lacked in fins, they made up for with wings. hee hee Tips for the Germans, if you're going to make cars go 200 mph, don't make them in the shape of airplane wings. lol Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] You mean like putting fintails on cars, making them look like space rockets. I still can't believe that MB bought into that, at least their fins weren't as big as some. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: It is a Yank thing. You wouldn't understand. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
Wonko the Sane wrote: Can you imagine if Benz suddenly flooded America with reasonably priced W-123 and W-124 cars? New, just out of the factory stuff, not rusty beaters? They'd rule the world and send the Korean car dynasty into panic. Forget that... sell the E220 CDI (or whatever the small CDI is) with a manual transmission... MB is like the Chevy of Europe, but we only get the expensive ones. Stupid MBUSA. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stealership theft again
'Asked son today if the stealer had fixed his stereo/tape/CD yet. He said they called him coupla days ago and told him they had decided they were gonna do it under warranty. He got it done yesterday. I asked why didn't they do that coupla weeks ago. He said, They had a stupid jerk on duty. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:29 PM Subject: Stealership theft again Son with the '07 R320CDI just called to ask my opinion of latest stealership scam on 'im: Month or so ago, he had the vehicle in for bunch of warranty work, including inop stereo/tape/CD system. They did everything but the stereo - 'had to order parts. 'Called him coupla days ago to tell 'im parts are in. 'Been driving it more every day, of course; 'took it in today, and they told him he'd have to pay labor to repair stereo 'cause NOW, it's out of warranty because of the additional miles since they ordered the parts for 'im. I told him, That's BS! They knew about it and ordered parts while it was under warranty; they should complete the job under the warranty! They're also trying to tack on lots of other crap, such as sanitize AC, etc., etc. - long list of crap to run the bill up. I told son, Most of that's BS, too! That's why we call 'em stealerships. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
My point exactly. Benz has hung their hats on the Yuppies -- and there are fewer and fewer each day who are in the car market. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:09 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: Can you imagine if Benz suddenly flooded America with reasonably priced W-123 and W-124 cars? New, just out of the factory stuff, not rusty beaters? They'd rule the world and send the Korean car dynasty into panic. Forget that... sell the E220 CDI (or whatever the small CDI is) with a manual transmission... MB is like the Chevy of Europe, but we only get the expensive ones. Stupid MBUSA. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's CURRENT CAR
but I think mercedes, or any car company make a lot more money per car on options than on number of units they sell. So for benz to sell fewer up market cars, fully loaded, probably nets them a lot more money than selling a bunch of stripper cars. I wonder how many E class taxis they'd have to sell to make the money they do off one Maybach, where most of the parts are plucked from the AMG parts bin, and marked up 1-200% over what they'd be if bolted on an S Class? Ed 300E 2008/11/27 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] My point exactly. Benz has hung their hats on the Yuppies -- and there are fewer and fewer each day who are in the car market. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:09 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: Can you imagine if Benz suddenly flooded America with reasonably priced W-123 and W-124 cars? New, just out of the factory stuff, not rusty beaters? They'd rule the world and send the Korean car dynasty into panic. Forget that... sell the E220 CDI (or whatever the small CDI is) with a manual transmission... MB is like the Chevy of Europe, but we only get the expensive ones. Stupid MBUSA. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: First snow of the season, gophers
Well, they (the NWS) initially said the snow would be only an inch and then turn to rain. Now they're saying 1-2 of snow overnight and more snow tomorrow. Well, I guess that blows my plan of rototilling the garden to discourage the gophers that just moved into it. They sure are pests. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Head for my OM602
Hello Listers,As some of you may remember my 90' 2.5L 300D has a bad head and I need to replace it or the engine. Well I haven't given it or my cars much thought since I've been living in Mexico for the last 2 months. The car is at my Indies and fortunately he is a good guy and friend. I've occasionally Googled used engines and haven't found much. There is a close one in Ohio but the PnP wants $2500 for it. I think this is too much for an engine with 200k on it. I recently saw a head for sale. MB #602.016 1201. Anybody know if this head would fit my car. Listing only says OM602 engine. I think a similar but slightly larger engine is in Sprinter vans. I'll be home for the Holidays and need to make a decision on what to do with the vehicle. By the way MB's seem to be few and far between here in Mexico, both new and old. I did actually see a very old 190D the other day. It was moving very slow. Looked like early 60's vintage. TIA. -- Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD 1983 300TD (parts car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
