Re: [MBZ] New 300SD

2009-02-02 Thread Luther

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Luther, twice a satisfied customer

Rich Thomas wrote:
Went and bought the 84 300SD this afternoon.  Ivory with Palomino 
leather, quite good condition with a few not too critical issues 
(except the heat didn't come on -- monovalve? which had been replaced 
at some point in the past), about 300k miles.  Guy had it for 10 yr, 
bought it from a guy who had it for 1 yr and did not like a diesel, 
original owner had it for 14 yr.  PO put in a new windshield on Friday 
as it caught a rock and cracked last week -- inshooance paid that.  
Car was new in Dunwoody GA in Feb 84 (almost exactly 25 yr ago!).  PO 
gave me 2 envelopes with papers, EVERY repair/purchase/anything 
car-related paper was in there along with original sticker and 
purchase receipts.  The original owner gave it to his daughter at some 
point but took care of maintenance, and summarized every event/cost on 
a set of index cards.  (how anal is that?)  Dealer mostly and some 
indy service for the first 14 yr, new tranny at 138k because it was 
shifting hard.  PO had all the vac elements for the AC replaced a 
year or so ago, was converted to 134 at some point with all new 
compressor and other stuff, I guess done correctly maybe, we'll see.  
I have not added up all the costs but it probably is close to half or 
more of original cost (they beat the dealer down $1600 for a nice 
round price, tax, title $40,000 out the door in 1984).  The 2nd owner 
put a $800 radio in it in 1998, then 6 months later another $900 
Alpine CD unit which is still in the car, with a kicker and amp in the 
trunk.  I am still trying to figure that.


Anyway, it is a pretty nice car, runs very well, mama is happy.  Gotta 
sort 2 windows (one regulator, other probably a switch), a seat back 
(switch?), the heat (monovalve?), the odometer gear broke when he 
pushed the trip odo, and probably some new shocks at some point as it 
seems a little floaty.  I noticed too the steering wheel is a bit off 
center, and a few degrees of dead zone (steering box adjustment?),  I 
guess an alignment is in order.  And to check out the leak/rust under 
the rear shelf.


Now to learn more about the 126.

--R

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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (183 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion


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Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble

2009-02-02 Thread Jeff Zedic
An equalizer can be helpful but most audiophiles do not use them. If
your system is set up properly there really should be no need for one.

If you have a boomy room or flat room then it can help.

I'm into stupidly expensive gear and do not use them. With my live
sound gear I used one because the rooms were always different but I
used a real time auto EQ so it was no problem.

Listening to mp3s, the EQ can make a big difference because of rubbish
sound from mp3s.

If your ear doesn't hear any difference then you don't need to worry.

The last thing an audiophile wants is another connection and circuit
in the sound chain.

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble

2009-02-02 Thread Fmiser
 Kaleb wrote:

 OK, I assume that a equalizer is better than just bass and
 treble adjustments.

This could be as bad as an oil thread

Anyway, it's better only in that there are more. With bass and
treble, the entire range of frequencies are typically divided
into thirds. The bass knob controls the volume of the bass
frequencies. The treble knob controls the volume of the high
frequencies. The middle has no direct control. Meaning if you
want more mid, turn down the bass and treble and turn up the
Volume. *smile*

 Any tips, pointers, thoughts etc.

The most common equalizer is called a graphic. It has a knob
or slider for each of the slices the sound has been sliced
into. So now you have not just bass and treble - but
super-bass, low-bass, bass, upper-bass, lower-mid, mid,
upper-mid, lower-treble, treble, upper-treble, super-treble.
That would be called an 11-band EQ. I've seen anything from
2-band to 62-band.

A more powerful, but less intuitive EQ is called
parametric. This is usually not sliders, only knobs. Each
band, instead of being stuck on only one frequency like a
graphic, has adjustable frequency, adjustable width, and
adjustable amount. There aren't very many equalizer hardware
boxes that are parametric - but in software it's not uncommon,
especially in the pro market.

Attached is a graphic that shows the various frequencies,
where some musical instruments fit in, what frequency range
common radio and telephone use, and where speech sounds fit.

There is no right or wrong setting anymore than for the
seat in a car. Set it so it's comfortable for you.

Small speakers usually are lacking in bass, but because there
are physics limitations, just turning up the bass doesn't
always help.

High frequency is much more easily absorbed. So if you have
your speakers behind the curtains, not a lot of high frequency
sound will get out. Conversely, bass can readily pass through
walls. 

Human ears are quite sensitive to the midrange, like 500 Hz to
2 kHz. 

--Philip, with pro audio experience
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[MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
Seeing as the how to for this was just posted here

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/transportation/stories/013009dnmetzombies.1595f453.html


Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas

Keep Austin Weird

I think that is just funnier than hell.  Quite harmless, funny, and 
gets the Authorities' panties in a big wad.  A lot of hurrumphing and 
tuttutting I am sure.  Only downside is that they will probably spend 
hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure out how to secure all 
their signs.


BTW it wasn't me that time.

--R

Allan Streib wrote:

Seeing as the how to for this was just posted here

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/transportation/stories/013009dnmetzombies.1595f453.html


Allan


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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and then fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread Wilton Strickland
Like Curley said, Ain't over yet.

Wilton

- Original Message -
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and
then fall for a scam because I am soft?


 Well now they dont like that generous offer and now decided to see if I
 can check with the next highest bidder to see if they want it.  I
 explained I could but I would have to file non-payment.  Ebay has really
 screwed the sellers.  I can file non-payment but it wont really mean
 munch if negative feedback cant be left for them.  No way to enforce
 anything.  They have been on ebay for a long time and have 100%
 positive.  But, like it said, its not possible to received any negative
 at all unless you are a seller so a buyer could go around bidding on
 cars and never pay and still have 100% feedback.  Anybody see the
 problem with that.  Anyway, I guess I will start going down the line and
 sending 2nd chance offers.  It just burns me up when people waist time
 like this.

 Hendrik  Fay wrote:
  Lets see, the last time I bid on something it plainly told me my max bid
  amount about 3 times.
  I could understand that after stuffing up they email you straight away
  and explain their error, obviously it is possible to put the wrong
  amount in if you are not paying attention but..
  Sounds like they are scamming you Kaleb. Might pay to google to see if
  it is a common thing.
  What sort of feedback does the buyer have, have they been on fleabay
  long? Usually I pay attention to what I am doing on ebay, especially on
   items.
 
  Hendrik
  who thinks his TE is worth 10K if that piece of junk goes for 2.5 and my
  AC is working, as is the aerial and all the windows and the sunnyroof
 
 
  Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  well the buyer emails me and says they meant to put in 1750, and put
  17500 by accident.  They say they will honor their bid but wonder if I
  can do anything for them.  I told her I would knock 300 off it, so
  will see.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and then fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Lets see, the last time I bid on something it plainly told me my max bid 
amount about 3 times.
I could understand that after stuffing up they email you straight away 
and explain their error, obviously it is possible to put the wrong 
amount in if you are not paying attention but..


How long did these liars hold the leading bid of more than $750?
If what they say were true, wouldn't they be thinking how could I be the high 
bidder at $875 when I only bid $750?
Or, if the displayed bid were over $750 at the time they placed their bid, then 
they had to see it right then, even if they failed to read all the please 
confirm your bid stuff before hitting the button.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] E320 error codes

2009-02-02 Thread Loren Faeth
Daughter's E320 (Hotrod) has new error codes:  Error code 2 is 
Oxygen sensor inoperative and 4 is Air injection 
inoperative.   The symptoms is that it apparently is getting harder 
to start.  It does start with the gas pedal depressed.


I assume the air pump is not working because the O2 sensor is 
kaput.  Is this the logical/correct diagnosis?  Anyone know where the 
o2 sensor is on an M104?  Anyone got a good used sensor?   Any 
special tools/knowledge needed to change this?


From what I have seen, it just screws in and has a plug.  Seems 
pretty simple to change an O2 sensor.  Am I missing something?  TIA.



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Re: [MBZ] Car Knowledge Test (fun!!!) I got 19 out of 20!

2009-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
John R. wrote: Got 16/20 as well.  I was correct on everything up to the last 
part.

I got 19 0f 20. I missed the best selling car of all time - I am not sure I 
agree with the answer.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] these things are coming down in price too

2009-02-02 Thread Mitch Haley


It still annoys me when sellers assume that TD stands for Turbo Diesel.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] 1999 (OM606) E300 Glow plugs

2009-02-02 Thread John Reames

Hi guys,

I'm having a *fabulous* week.

Glow plug replacement on an OM606 engine 
(ugh)... 2 came right out, 3 fought me, but with lots of PB and even more 
patience, they came out...


The last one... well... we aren't on talking terms right now. 
Fortunately, it was cylinder 3, so it is pretty much straight access, once 
the IP lines are pulled (and I need to replace the IP delivery valve seals 
anyhow...)


Does anyone have access to a 2007 or newer WIS ?  I need a pdf of 
AR-15.20-P-4112-01P ...


Also, can anyone tell/check whether the tool set 900 589 02 99 00 
includes a GP reamer or equivalent?  I'd expect it would since it is to 
extract and repair GP bores...  It may be shown well enough in the WIS 
doc above to tell.


I know that getting a proper reamer that gets both the element/tip bore 
and the body bore isn't a cheap proposition, so that lessens the repair 
kit impact if it is included. (The cheapies only get the tip bore; the 
body bore is what gets carboned, due to trash on the seat...)


I figure the difference in price between a good GP reamer and the tool kit 
is worth the security of having the proper jigs and guides to ensure the 
drill-out goes exactly through the center and does not damage the threads 
or the seat...  Insurance against the fickle finger of fate, unsteady 
hands, or even having the sun shine on the wrong dog's backside that 
day...


With two OM606 engines, I'm apt to need it again anyhow...

As I mentioned earlier... I'm having a fabulous week!

Thanks much,
-j.

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Re: [MBZ] New 300SD -- heat

2009-02-02 Thread Scott Ritchey
So pull the connector off the mono valve; it should then open.  If no heat
than, you know the coolant loop is plugged somewhere, probably the mono
valve.  The rebuild kit for the valve is not expensive ($50 on Rusty's site)
but you might want disassemble the valve first to see if it is just clogged
(which maybe you can just clean) or if the diaphragm is torn (must be
replaced).

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 07:42
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New 300SD -- heat

No hot air from any vent at any setting.  Had me wondering because of 
default mode.  All the flaps are making the right noises, but no heat.  
I am wondering too if the auto setting on the control panel is working.  
The high/low fan swtiches seem to work, can't tell on auto.

--R

Scott Ritchey wrote:
 Does the defrost put out hot air?  If so, the problem may be the 100 deg C
 temp switch on the motor that prevents the heat from running until the
 engine warms up.  But defrost runs at ant engine temp. In my experience,
the
 mono valve fails open (normal power-off state) unless someone put radiator
 leak sealer in the coolant; if that is the case the mono valve is probably
 leak-sealed closed.

 Scot

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 22:52
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] New 300SD

 Went and bought the 84 300SD this afternoon.  Ivory with Palomino 
 leather, quite good condition with a few not too critical issues (except 
 the heat didn't come on -- monovalve? which had been replaced at some 
 point in the past), about 300k miles.  Guy had it for 10 yr, bought it 
 from a guy who had it for 1 yr and did not like a diesel, original owner 
 had it for 14 yr.  PO put in a new windshield on Friday as it caught a 
 rock and cracked last week -- inshooance paid that.  Car was new in 
 Dunwoody GA in Feb 84 (almost exactly 25 yr ago!).  PO gave me 2 
 envelopes with papers, EVERY repair/purchase/anything car-related paper 
 was in there along with original sticker and purchase receipts.  The 
 original owner gave it to his daughter at some point but took care of 
 maintenance, and summarized every event/cost on a set of index cards.  
 (how anal is that?)  Dealer mostly and some indy service for the first 
 14 yr, new tranny at 138k because it was shifting hard.  PO had all 
 the vac elements for the AC replaced a year or so ago, was converted to 
 134 at some point with all new compressor and other stuff, I guess done 
 correctly maybe, we'll see.  I have not added up all the costs but it 
 probably is close to half or more of original cost (they beat the dealer 
 down $1600 for a nice round price, tax, title $40,000 out the door in 
 1984).  The 2nd owner put a $800 radio in it in 1998, then 6 months 
 later another $900 Alpine CD unit which is still in the car, with a 
 kicker and amp in the trunk.  I am still trying to figure that.

 Anyway, it is a pretty nice car, runs very well, mama is happy.  Gotta 
 sort 2 windows (one regulator, other probably a switch), a seat back 
 (switch?), the heat (monovalve?), the odometer gear broke when he pushed 
 the trip odo, and probably some new shocks at some point as it seems a 
 little floaty.  I noticed too the steering wheel is a bit off center, 
 and a few degrees of dead zone (steering box adjustment?),  I guess an 
 alignment is in order.  And to check out the leak/rust under the rear
shelf.

 Now to learn more about the 126.

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] New 300SD -- heat

2009-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Rich wrote: No hot air from any vent at any setting.  Had me wondering because 
of default mode.  All the flaps are making the right noises, but no heat. I m 
wondering too if the auto setting on the control panel is working. The high/low 
fan swtiches seem to work, can't tell on auto.

That is exactly what my 126 did.  I bought the monovalve rebuild kit from Rusty 
and it fixed the problem - very easy fix.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 1999 (OM606) E300 Glow plugs

2009-02-02 Thread dave walton
I've not seen any ill effects from gooping up the new glow plugs with
aluminium anti seize. I've done that car twice thus far.

-Dave Walton

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I'm having a *fabulous* week.

 Glow plug replacement on an OM606 engine (ugh)... 2 came right out, 3 fought
 me, but with lots of PB and even more patience, they came out...

 The last one... well... we aren't on talking terms right now. Fortunately,
 it was cylinder 3, so it is pretty much straight access, once the IP lines
 are pulled (and I need to replace the IP delivery valve seals anyhow...)

 Does anyone have access to a 2007 or newer WIS ?  I need a pdf of
 AR-15.20-P-4112-01P ...

 Also, can anyone tell/check whether the tool set 900 589 02 99 00 includes
 a GP reamer or equivalent?  I'd expect it would since it is to extract and
 repair GP bores...  It may be shown well enough in the WIS doc above to
 tell.

 I know that getting a proper reamer that gets both the element/tip bore and
 the body bore isn't a cheap proposition, so that lessens the repair kit
 impact if it is included. (The cheapies only get the tip bore; the body bore
 is what gets carboned, due to trash on the seat...)

 I figure the difference in price between a good GP reamer and the tool kit
 is worth the security of having the proper jigs and guides to ensure the
 drill-out goes exactly through the center and does not damage the threads or
 the seat...  Insurance against the fickle finger of fate, unsteady hands, or
 even having the sun shine on the wrong dog's backside that day...

 With two OM606 engines, I'm apt to need it again anyhow...

 As I mentioned earlier... I'm having a fabulous week!

 Thanks much,
 -j.

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Re: [MBZ] Car Knowledge Test (fun!!!) I got 19 out of 20!

2009-02-02 Thread John Reames
I ended up taking a stab at the lamborghini logo... (figured it was a bull 
since lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer that wanted to show ferarri 
(prancing horse) how to make a sports car


(20/20)...

-j.

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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Donald Snook wrote:


John R. wrote: Got 16/20 as well.  I was correct on everything up to the last 
part.

I got 19 0f 20. I missed the best selling car of all time - I am not sure I 
agree with the answer.


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Re: [MBZ] New 300SD -- heat

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas

  

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Re: [MBZ] New 300SD -- heat

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
No hot air from any vent at any setting.  Had me wondering because of 
default mode.  All the flaps are making the right noises, but no heat.  
I am wondering too if the auto setting on the control panel is working.  
The high/low fan swtiches seem to work, can't tell on auto.


--R

Scott Ritchey wrote:

Does the defrost put out hot air?  If so, the problem may be the 100 deg C
temp switch on the motor that prevents the heat from running until the
engine warms up.  But defrost runs at ant engine temp. In my experience, the
mono valve fails open (normal power-off state) unless someone put radiator
leak sealer in the coolant; if that is the case the mono valve is probably
leak-sealed closed.

Scot

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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 22:52
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Subject: [MBZ] New 300SD

Went and bought the 84 300SD this afternoon.  Ivory with Palomino 
leather, quite good condition with a few not too critical issues (except 
the heat didn't come on -- monovalve? which had been replaced at some 
point in the past), about 300k miles.  Guy had it for 10 yr, bought it 
from a guy who had it for 1 yr and did not like a diesel, original owner 
had it for 14 yr.  PO put in a new windshield on Friday as it caught a 
rock and cracked last week -- inshooance paid that.  Car was new in 
Dunwoody GA in Feb 84 (almost exactly 25 yr ago!).  PO gave me 2 
envelopes with papers, EVERY repair/purchase/anything car-related paper 
was in there along with original sticker and purchase receipts.  The 
original owner gave it to his daughter at some point but took care of 
maintenance, and summarized every event/cost on a set of index cards.  
(how anal is that?)  Dealer mostly and some indy service for the first 
14 yr, new tranny at 138k because it was shifting hard.  PO had all 
the vac elements for the AC replaced a year or so ago, was converted to 
134 at some point with all new compressor and other stuff, I guess done 
correctly maybe, we'll see.  I have not added up all the costs but it 
probably is close to half or more of original cost (they beat the dealer 
down $1600 for a nice round price, tax, title $40,000 out the door in 
1984).  The 2nd owner put a $800 radio in it in 1998, then 6 months 
later another $900 Alpine CD unit which is still in the car, with a 
kicker and amp in the trunk.  I am still trying to figure that.


Anyway, it is a pretty nice car, runs very well, mama is happy.  Gotta 
sort 2 windows (one regulator, other probably a switch), a seat back 
(switch?), the heat (monovalve?), the odometer gear broke when he pushed 
the trip odo, and probably some new shocks at some point as it seems a 
little floaty.  I noticed too the steering wheel is a bit off center, 
and a few degrees of dead zone (steering box adjustment?),  I guess an 
alignment is in order.  And to check out the leak/rust under the rear shelf.


Now to learn more about the 126.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Motoroam road trip #1.

2009-02-02 Thread Rolf Martin-Hoster
She runs she runs! Kind of. Sucking in air somewhere, trying to figure out
where. This was running on starter fluid:

http://superturbodiesel.com/std/74-o309d-motoroam-om314-t-206.html#pid2293

She sounded real smooth.

This is an A pump, anyone have experience? We put on new filter, pumped all
the old diesel out, isolated the engine and ran off a 5 gal jug of diesel.
There was one hose on the rear of the engine that broke off and I did not
put a hose on and run into the jug. I am now thinking this is where the air
was being sucked in but as of yet I can't find its purpose in the FSM. It
would have fed off the incoming line from the fuel tank.

-Rolf
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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
Glad to know I'm not the only one who did thaterI mean heard that
was true.

Bob R

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On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

I don't know about this but can say with some certainty that a stop sign is
a perfect fit for a rusted out 1967 VW front floorboard..

Thanks,
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Subject: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

Seeing as the how to for this was just posted here

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/transportation/st
ories/013009dnmetzombies.1595f453.html


Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
Depends on what the sign was there for originally, lets suppose it was 
to alert drivers to roadworks ahead and some zombie behind a wheel has a 
bit of a chuckle and then plows into roadworkers.

Would that be harmless and funny?
What is a class C misdemeanor? Is that a slap on the wrist or is it a 
bit worse?


Hendrik

Rich Thomas wrote:

Keep Austin Weird

I think that is just funnier than hell.  Quite harmless, funny, and 
gets the Authorities' panties in a big wad.  A lot of hurrumphing and 
tuttutting I am sure.  Only downside is that they will probably spend 
hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure out how to secure 
all their signs.


BTW it wasn't me that time.

--R





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Re: [MBZ] E320 error codes

2009-02-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
Don't assume anything, test before replacing. Usually O2 sensors don't 
just go out, they tend to slowly read rich until the signal becomes 
wonky enough for the ECU to pick up a fault.
Hard starting is not normally a sign of O2 trouble, as the sensor does 
not play a part in starting the car. A rough idle I would say is more of 
an O2 thing, as the motor hunts for the right mixture.
May be there is a fault elsewhere and the O2 can't compensate enough and 
thus throws up a fault code?
Changing an O2 sensor is not that hard but you need a good spanner on it 
as they can be very tight. You may be able to fit a generic brand O2 but 
have to solder on the connectors.

Perhaps as a quick test you can unplug the sensor and see what happens.

Hendrik

Loren Faeth wrote:
Daughter's E320 (Hotrod) has new error codes:  Error code 2 is Oxygen 
sensor inoperative and 4 is Air injection inoperative.   The 
symptoms is that it apparently is getting harder to start.  It does 
start with the gas pedal depressed.


I assume the air pump is not working because the O2 sensor is kaput.  
Is this the logical/correct diagnosis?  Anyone know where the o2 
sensor is on an M104?  Anyone got a good used sensor?   Any special 
tools/knowledge needed to change this?


From what I have seen, it just screws in and has a plug.  Seems pretty 
simple to change an O2 sensor.  Am I missing something?  TIA.



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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Bill R
I'm just hoping that anyone who swiped a stop sign was a bit more careful in
location selection than one near where I lived in Indiana.  The EMS service
I was a volunteer EMT for was called to a scene that included two bodies in
an accident caused [or at least contributed to] by a missing sign.
BillR 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Hendrik  Fay
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:01 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

Depends on what the sign was there for originally, lets suppose it was 
to alert drivers to roadworks ahead and some zombie behind a wheel has a 
bit of a chuckle and then plows into roadworkers.
Would that be harmless and funny?
What is a class C misdemeanor? Is that a slap on the wrist or is it a 
bit worse?

Hendrik

Rich Thomas wrote:
 Keep Austin Weird

 I think that is just funnier than hell.  Quite harmless, funny, and 
 gets the Authorities' panties in a big wad.  A lot of hurrumphing and 
 tuttutting I am sure.  Only downside is that they will probably spend 
 hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure out how to secure 
 all their signs.

 BTW it wasn't me that time.

 --R




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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:17:19 -0500, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net said:

 I'm just hoping that anyone who swiped a stop sign was a bit more careful in
 location selection than one near where I lived in Indiana.  The EMS service
 I was a volunteer EMT for was called to a scene that included two bodies in
 an accident caused [or at least contributed to] by a missing sign.

Good point, I was thinking the same thing -- a better idea might be to talk to 
the street department and see if you could get an old one from them as they are 
replaced.  A flaw in that plan, at least around here, is that you'd first have 
to patch up the bullet holes as people like to use them for target practice.

Allan
--
1983 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Car Knowledge Test (fun!!!) I got 19 out of 20!

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Speaking of Lambos, I saw a black Diablo at the little shopping center 
up the road on Sat, and parked behind it was probably an E55, it had no 
badges but AMG kit and fat tires.  The Diablo is about 2 ft high but 
looks very cool.


--R

John Reames wrote:
I ended up taking a stab at the lamborghini logo... (figured it was a 
bull since lamborghini was a tractor manufacturer that wanted to show 
ferarri (prancing horse) how to make a sports car


(20/20)...

-j.



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Re: [MBZ] E320 error codes

2009-02-02 Thread Loren Faeth
Thanks for the hint about unplugging the O2 sensor.  What should I 
expect when the sensor is unplugged?  All this gasser stuff is new to me.


At 03:12 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
Don't assume anything, test before replacing. Usually O2 sensors 
don't just go out, they tend to slowly read rich until the signal 
becomes wonky enough for the ECU to pick up a fault.
Hard starting is not normally a sign of O2 trouble, as the sensor 
does not play a part in starting the car. A rough idle I would say 
is more of an O2 thing, as the motor hunts for the right mixture.
May be there is a fault elsewhere and the O2 can't compensate enough 
and thus throws up a fault code?
Changing an O2 sensor is not that hard but you need a good spanner 
on it as they can be very tight. You may be able to fit a generic 
brand O2 but have to solder on the connectors.

Perhaps as a quick test you can unplug the sensor and see what happens.

Hendrik

Loren Faeth wrote:
Daughter's E320 (Hotrod) has new error codes:  Error code 2 is 
Oxygen sensor inoperative and 4 is Air injection 
inoperative.   The symptoms is that it apparently is getting 
harder to start.  It does start with the gas pedal depressed.


I assume the air pump is not working because the O2 sensor is kaput.
Is this the logical/correct diagnosis?  Anyone know where the o2 
sensor is on an M104?  Anyone got a good used sensor?   Any special 
tools/knowledge needed to change this?


From what I have seen, it just screws in and has a plug.  Seems 
pretty simple to change an O2 sensor.  Am I missing something?  TIA.



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Re: [MBZ] E320 error codes

2009-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:39:55 -0600, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com 
said:

 Thanks for the hint about unplugging the O2 sensor.  What should I 
 expect when the sensor is unplugged?  All this gasser stuff is new to me.

Some (most?) cars the ECU will go into a default program where the engine will 
run OK, if a bit on the rich side.  If unplugging the sensor improves things, 
it's a clue that it's part of the problem.  I don't know if this is all true 
for this car however.

Typically the unplugging needs to be done with the engine off and the ignition 
off.

Allan
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1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Bill R
I've been trying to remember more about the incident [it was probably 25
years ago].  They took the sign from a rural road that was used mostly by
the folks who lived in the area.  While we can attribute that to the
lessened chance of being caught and perhaps a thought that it would not be
so dangerous, the family that ran the sign was either visiting or took a
wrong turn coming out of one of the small towns.  At any rate, it was night
and they were not locals, and did not know the stop was coming up. Not
really any way to safely steal a stop sign.
BillR   

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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:22 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:17:19 -0500, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net said:

 I'm just hoping that anyone who swiped a stop sign was a bit more careful
in
 location selection than one near where I lived in Indiana.  The EMS
service
 I was a volunteer EMT for was called to a scene that included two bodies
in
 an accident caused [or at least contributed to] by a missing sign.

Good point, I was thinking the same thing -- a better idea might be to talk
to the street department and see if you could get an old one from them as
they are replaced.  A flaw in that plan, at least around here, is that you'd
first have to patch up the bullet holes as people like to use them for
target practice.

Allan
--
1983 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
The stop sign we took years ago was located in a parking lot. I can't speak
for about the friends I ran with at the time but I would never consider
taking one from any public road.

Thanks,
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On Behalf Of Bill R
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:06 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

I've been trying to remember more about the incident [it was probably 25
years ago].  They took the sign from a rural road that was used mostly by
the folks who lived in the area.  While we can attribute that to the
lessened chance of being caught and perhaps a thought that it would not be
so dangerous, the family that ran the sign was either visiting or took a
wrong turn coming out of one of the small towns.  At any rate, it was night
and they were not locals, and did not know the stop was coming up. Not
really any way to safely steal a stop sign.
BillR   

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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:22 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:17:19 -0500, Bill R billr32...@comcast.net said:

 I'm just hoping that anyone who swiped a stop sign was a bit more careful
in
 location selection than one near where I lived in Indiana.  The EMS
service
 I was a volunteer EMT for was called to a scene that included two bodies
in
 an accident caused [or at least contributed to] by a missing sign.

Good point, I was thinking the same thing -- a better idea might be to talk
to the street department and see if you could get an old one from them as
they are replaced.  A flaw in that plan, at least around here, is that you'd
first have to patch up the bullet holes as people like to use them for
target practice.

Allan
--
1983 300D


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Re: [MBZ] this CDI looks cheap

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
There is no such thing as a 'cheap 'Mercedes'!

Thanks, Tom
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Sent: 2/2/09 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] this CDI looks cheap

Kaleb provided the following link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-Diesel-CDI-High-Gra
de-2006-Mercedes-E320-CDI-Diesel-Nav-HSeats-WoW_W0QQitemZ280308897999QQi
hZ018QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


That does seem like a good price.  Anyone want to buy a 2001 Expedition
and a 1993 Cadillac?  I'll sell them both for $20,000.

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[MBZ] OT ---Catalytic converters

2009-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
How do you know if a catalytic converter is going bad.  I am starting to smell 
that nasty rotten egg smell when I park the Cadillac.  Does this mean, the cat 
is going bad or does it just mean, it is doing what it is supposed to do?

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Re: [MBZ] OT ---Catalytic converters

2009-02-02 Thread Loren Faeth
Haul it up here and pay me $500, and I will cure your problems by 
taking it off your hands!   See,  if it was an MB, I'd pay you $500!


At 04:11 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
How do you know if a catalytic converter is going bad.  I am 
starting to smell that nasty rotten egg smell when I park the 
Cadillac.  Does this mean, the cat is going bad or does it just 
mean, it is doing what it is supposed to do?


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Re: [MBZ] this CDI looks cheap

2009-02-02 Thread tyler
Once I found a 1975 240D sitting in a field with 4 flat tires, and a bad 
fuel pump and picked it up for $100. Tires pumped up, and there happened 
to be a working electric fuel pump in the trunk that I installed! It 
performed flawlessly on a 1,000 mile roadtrip and then I re-sold it 
afterwards for $800. That was a cheap Mercedes!


It could have got expensive if I had cared that there were rustholes in 
the body panels, cracks in the tire sidewalls, and bad syncros in the 
tranny, but I didn't... and it didn't.


Tyler

Tom Hargrave wrote:

There is no such thing as a 'cheap 'Mercedes'!

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
I don't know about this but can say with some certainty that a stop sign is
a perfect fit for a rusted out 1967 VW front floorboard..

Thanks,
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Subject: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

Seeing as the how to for this was just posted here

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/transportation/st
ories/013009dnmetzombies.1595f453.html


Allan


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Re: [MBZ] this CDI looks cheap

2009-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb provided the following link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-Diesel-CDI-High-Grade-2006-Mercedes-E320-CDI-Diesel-Nav-HSeats-WoW_W0QQitemZ280308897999QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


That does seem like a good price.  Anyone want to buy a 2001 Expedition and a 
1993 Cadillac?  I'll sell them both for $20,000.

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and then fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well now they dont like that generous offer and now decided to see if I 
can check with the next highest bidder to see if they want it.  I 
explained I could but I would have to file non-payment.  Ebay has really 
screwed the sellers.  I can file non-payment but it wont really mean 
munch if negative feedback cant be left for them.  No way to enforce 
anything.  They have been on ebay for a long time and have 100% 
positive.  But, like it said, its not possible to received any negative 
at all unless you are a seller so a buyer could go around bidding on 
cars and never pay and still have 100% feedback.  Anybody see the 
problem with that.  Anyway, I guess I will start going down the line and 
sending 2nd chance offers.  It just burns me up when people waist time 
like this.


Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Lets see, the last time I bid on something it plainly told me my max bid 
amount about 3 times.
I could understand that after stuffing up they email you straight away 
and explain their error, obviously it is possible to put the wrong 
amount in if you are not paying attention but..
Sounds like they are scamming you Kaleb. Might pay to google to see if 
it is a common thing.
What sort of feedback does the buyer have, have they been on fleabay 
long? Usually I pay attention to what I am doing on ebay, especially on 
 items.


Hendrik
who thinks his TE is worth 10K if that piece of junk goes for 2.5 and my 
AC is working, as is the aerial and all the windows and the sunnyroof



Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
well the buyer emails me and says they meant to put in 1750, and put 
17500 by accident.  They say they will honor their bid but wonder if I 
can do anything for them.  I told her I would knock 300 off it, so 
will see.



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Re: [MBZ] New 300SD

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I was thinking about that web site driving home yesterday, wondered if I 
had saved it.  You anticipated my search!  Thanks!


--R

Luther wrote:

www.odometergears.com

Luther, twice a satisfied customer

Rich Thomas wrote:
Went and bought the 84 300SD this afternoon.  Ivory with Palomino 
leather, quite good condition with a few not too critical issues 
(except the heat didn't come on -- monovalve? which had been replaced 
at some point in the past), about 300k miles.  Guy had it for 10 yr, 
bought it from a guy who had it for 1 yr and did not like a diesel, 
original owner had it for 14 yr.  PO put in a new windshield on 
Friday as it caught a rock and cracked last week -- inshooance paid 
that.  Car was new in Dunwoody GA in Feb 84 (almost exactly 25 yr 
ago!).  PO gave me 2 envelopes with papers, EVERY 
repair/purchase/anything car-related paper was in there along with 
original sticker and purchase receipts.  The original owner gave it 
to his daughter at some point but took care of maintenance, and 
summarized every event/cost on a set of index cards.  (how anal is 
that?)  Dealer mostly and some indy service for the first 14 yr, new 
tranny at 138k because it was shifting hard.  PO had all the vac 
elements for the AC replaced a year or so ago, was converted to 134 
at some point with all new compressor and other stuff, I guess done 
correctly maybe, we'll see.  I have not added up all the costs but it 
probably is close to half or more of original cost (they beat the 
dealer down $1600 for a nice round price, tax, title $40,000 out the 
door in 1984).  The 2nd owner put a $800 radio in it in 1998, then 6 
months later another $900 Alpine CD unit which is still in the car, 
with a kicker and amp in the trunk.  I am still trying to figure that.


Anyway, it is a pretty nice car, runs very well, mama is happy.  
Gotta sort 2 windows (one regulator, other probably a switch), a seat 
back (switch?), the heat (monovalve?), the odometer gear broke when 
he pushed the trip odo, and probably some new shocks at some point as 
it seems a little floaty.  I noticed too the steering wheel is a bit 
off center, and a few degrees of dead zone (steering box 
adjustment?),  I guess an alignment is in order.  And to check out 
the leak/rust under the rear shelf.


Now to learn more about the 126.

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[MBZ] 450SEL-D

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
A car with a complex:

http://tinyurl.com/cm4pod

 

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what?

2009-02-02 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=150323293124


Holy CRAP!  If that person really shows up with the money, you should give them 
a sign that says sucker

Who beat the crap out of that car and got it so dirty?

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Re: [MBZ] 450SEL-D

2009-02-02 Thread Wilton Strickland
No 617 engine ever over heats.  Oh?

Wilton

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 A car with a complex:

 http://tinyurl.com/cm4pod



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Re: [MBZ] OT ---Catalytic converters

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
That smell is hydrogen sulfide, or some kind of sulfurous oxide, which 
probably means the catalyst is not working quite as it should, or maybe 
the mixture, or maybe you got some gas with a lot of sulfur in it?  I 
used to notice that Fords seemed to have a more noxious exhaust odor 
than other cars, maybe some different kind of catalyst back then.  It 
probably isn't worth worrying about it much, unless the car starts 
running rough or lacks power.


--R

Loren Faeth wrote:
Haul it up here and pay me $500, and I will cure your problems by 
taking it off your hands!   See,  if it was an MB, I'd pay you $500!


At 04:11 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
How do you know if a catalytic converter is going bad.  I am starting 
to smell that nasty rotten egg smell when I park the Cadillac.  Does 
this mean, the cat is going bad or does it just mean, it is doing 
what it is supposed to do?


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Re: [MBZ] New 300SD -- heat

2009-02-02 Thread Peter Frederick

Replace the monovalve insert.

Peter

On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:41 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

No hot air from any vent at any setting.  Had me wondering because  
of default mode.  All the flaps are making the right noises, but no  
heat.  I am wondering too if the auto setting on the control panel  
is working.  The high/low fan swtiches seem to work, can't tell on  
auto.


--R

Scott Ritchey wrote:
Does the defrost put out hot air?  If so, the problem may be the  
100 deg C
temp switch on the motor that prevents the heat from running until  
the
engine warms up.  But defrost runs at ant engine temp. In my  
experience, the
mono valve fails open (normal power-off state) unless someone put  
radiator
leak sealer in the coolant; if that is the case the mono valve is  
probably

leak-sealed closed.

Scot

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Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 22:52
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] New 300SD

Went and bought the 84 300SD this afternoon.  Ivory with Palomino  
leather, quite good condition with a few not too critical issues  
(except the heat didn't come on -- monovalve? which had been  
replaced at some point in the past), about 300k miles.  Guy had it  
for 10 yr, bought it from a guy who had it for 1 yr and did not  
like a diesel, original owner had it for 14 yr.  PO put in a new  
windshield on Friday as it caught a rock and cracked last week --  
inshooance paid that.  Car was new in Dunwoody GA in Feb 84  
(almost exactly 25 yr ago!).  PO gave me 2 envelopes with papers,  
EVERY repair/purchase/anything car-related paper was in there  
along with original sticker and purchase receipts.  The original  
owner gave it to his daughter at some point but took care of  
maintenance, and summarized every event/cost on a set of index  
cards.  (how anal is that?)  Dealer mostly and some indy service  
for the first 14 yr, new tranny at 138k because it was shifting  
hard.  PO had all the vac elements for the AC replaced a year or  
so ago, was converted to 134 at some point with all new compressor  
and other stuff, I guess done correctly maybe, we'll see.  I have  
not added up all the costs but it probably is close to half or  
more of original cost (they beat the dealer down $1600 for a nice  
round price, tax, title $40,000 out the door in 1984).  The 2nd  
owner put a $800 radio in it in 1998, then 6 months later another  
$900 Alpine CD unit which is still in the car, with a kicker and  
amp in the trunk.  I am still trying to figure that.


Anyway, it is a pretty nice car, runs very well, mama is happy.   
Gotta sort 2 windows (one regulator, other probably a switch), a  
seat back (switch?), the heat (monovalve?), the odometer gear  
broke when he pushed the trip odo, and probably some new shocks at  
some point as it seems a little floaty.  I noticed too the  
steering wheel is a bit off center, and a few degrees of dead zone  
(steering box adjustment?),  I guess an alignment is in order.   
And to check out the leak/rust under the rear shelf.


Now to learn more about the 126.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
A lot of times those things just sit there telling you something 
useless, or a bunch of gibberish, or letting you know that next week 
they will be striping lanes or something from 9PM until 5AM.  Some 
politically-connected dude probably owns the sign rental company, and so 
every road HAS to have one.  That being Texas and all.


--R

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Depends on what the sign was there for originally, lets suppose it was 
to alert drivers to roadworks ahead and some zombie behind a wheel has 
a bit of a chuckle and then plows into roadworkers.

Would that be harmless and funny?
What is a class C misdemeanor? Is that a slap on the wrist or is it a 
bit worse?


Hendrik

Rich Thomas wrote:

Keep Austin Weird

I think that is just funnier than hell.  Quite harmless, funny, and 
gets the Authorities' panties in a big wad.  A lot of hurrumphing and 
tuttutting I am sure.  Only downside is that they will probably spend 
hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to figure out how to secure 
all their signs.


BTW it wasn't me that time.

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[MBZ] 300SD fuel tank vacuum

2009-02-02 Thread Rich Thomas
The day we got the car it had a pretty serious vacuum on the fuel tank.  
Again, another discussion I did not pay much attention to.  Should there 
be a vent pipe or hole somewhere?


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD fuel tank vacuum

2009-02-02 Thread Peter Frederick
The vent is a bulbous thing on the end of a hose by the rear  
suspension under the car.  Prefect size for a mud dauber to build a  
nest in.


Peter

On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

The day we got the car it had a pretty serious vacuum on the fuel  
tank.  Again, another discussion I did not pay much attention to.   
Should there be a vent pipe or hole somewhere?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT ---Catalytic converters

2009-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes:

 That smell is hydrogen sulfide, or some kind of sulfurous oxide, which
 probably means the catalyst is not working quite as it should, or
 maybe the mixture, or maybe you got some gas with a lot of sulfur in
 it?  I used to notice that Fords seemed to have a more noxious exhaust
 odor than other cars, maybe some different kind of catalyst back then.
 It probably isn't worth worrying about it much, unless the car starts
 running rough or lacks power.

I had a '87 Toyota truck that had such a bad rotten egg smell I wanted
to pull out the cat.  It went away when I stopped buying Shell gasoline
(for other reasons, Shell dealer pissed me off but that's another
story).

So -- the moral of the story is that it might be worth changing gasoline
brands as an experiment.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes:

 A lot of times those things just sit there telling you something
 useless, or a bunch of gibberish, or letting you know that next week
 they will be striping lanes or something from 9PM until 5AM.  Some
 politically-connected dude probably owns the sign rental company, and
 so every road HAS to have one.  That being Texas and all.

Not to mention that the signs are hardly the only indicator of road work
ahead.  There will be miles of orange barrels and flasher barricades on
both sides of the work site (no doubt a full day's work for a crew of
four to set those up)

Allan
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[MBZ] the 190D sale update

2009-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I guess I scared the bidder into sending the deposit (via paypal). 
 They are talking about picking it up on the 14th.  Before I left for 
work this morning, I went ahead and sent the 2nd highest bidder a 2nd 
chance offer.  They are jumping at the chance.  CRAP!!  OK, so here we 
got the high bidder at 2550 whining and I agree to take 2250.  The next 
highest bidder came in at 2500 and they want it, but I have a deposit 
already.  I am still not convinced these people will come thru, after 
all if they could just complain and get paypal to refund them and I am 
screwed.  So what is my plan?  I ask the 2nd bidder if he would be 
interested in me asking the 1st bidder if they want to back out because 
this 2nd guy was wanting to come tonight to get it.  I am hoping he 
wants me to try that because I will get the car gone quicker, and I will 
get more cash out of him.


Guess if all else fails,I will offer to sell him the 2nd 190D I just put 
the tranny in.  Think its going to have to go for more money though 
because it has working AC, brand new suspension, lots and lots of new parts

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Bill R
 Not really any way to safely steal a stop sign.

But that comes pretty close.
BillR

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The stop sign we took years ago was located in a parking lot. I can't speak
for about the friends I ran with at the time but I would never consider
taking one from any public road.

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread Robert Rentfro
 Not really any way to safely steal a stop sign.

I nicked mine from a big pile of disused signs next to a city garage. 
No ones safety was ever at risk. Even as a punk kid, I was sensible.

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and then fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well by looking at the bid times, looks like they probably used a 
snipper.  If they really did put in the wrong amount they put it in 
their snipping tool.


Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Lets see, the last time I bid on something it plainly told me my max 
bid amount about 3 times.
I could understand that after stuffing up they email you straight away 
and explain their error, obviously it is possible to put the wrong 
amount in if you are not paying attention but..


How long did these liars hold the leading bid of more than $750?
If what they say were true, wouldn't they be thinking how could I be 
the high bidder at $875 when I only bid $750?
Or, if the displayed bid were over $750 at the time they placed their 
bid, then they had to see it right then, even if they failed to read all 
the please confirm your bid stuff before hitting the button.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT ---Catalytic converters

2009-02-02 Thread Peter Frederick
Gasoline brand can have an effect, certainly, but so will a vacuum  
leak that only affects some cylinders, causing the others to run rich  
at idle.


Peter

On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Allan Streib wrote:


Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes:

That smell is hydrogen sulfide, or some kind of sulfurous oxide,  
which

probably means the catalyst is not working quite as it should, or
maybe the mixture, or maybe you got some gas with a lot of sulfur in
it?  I used to notice that Fords seemed to have a more noxious  
exhaust
odor than other cars, maybe some different kind of catalyst back  
then.

It probably isn't worth worrying about it much, unless the car starts
running rough or lacks power.


I had a '87 Toyota truck that had such a bad rotten egg smell I wanted
to pull out the cat.  It went away when I stopped buying Shell  
gasoline

(for other reasons, Shell dealer pissed me off but that's another
story).

So -- the moral of the story is that it might be worth changing  
gasoline

brands as an experiment.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble

2009-02-02 Thread OK Don
That is a cool chart - thanks for sending it.


 Attached is a graphic that shows the various frequencies,
 where some musical instruments fit in, what frequency range
 common radio and telephone use, and where speech sounds fit.

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Re: [MBZ] Alright who did it?

2009-02-02 Thread OK Don
The one I saw stolen was knocked down the previous night by a drunk driver.
It was lying on the ground partially attached to a bent up pole. Never knew
what he did with it ---

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Robert Rentfro rrent...@cox.net wrote:

  Not really any way to safely steal a stop sign.

 I nicked mine from a big pile of disused signs next to a city garage.
 No ones safety was ever at risk. Even as a punk kid, I was sensible.

 Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and then fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread OK Don
So the sniper back-fired on them!

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 well by looking at the bid times, looks like they probably used a snipper.
  If they really did put in the wrong amount they put it in their snipping
 tool.

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what andthen fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
It takes two snipers to run a price up.

Thanks,
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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what
andthen fall for a scam because I am soft?

So the sniper back-fired on them!

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 well by looking at the bid times, looks like they probably used a snipper.
  If they really did put in the wrong amount they put it in their snipping
 tool.

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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2009-02-02 Thread Tom Hargrave


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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:29 PM
To: weekdfpr...@tonto.eia.doe.gov
Subject: Today's Diesel Prices

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   On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

   Average All Types

US
NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST
 DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADDPADD
 I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
--  -  - ---  -   -  ---  -  -  -
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090202  2.246  2.325  2.583   2.484   2.233   2.201   2.189  2.229  2.303
2.288
090126  2.268  2.344  2.595   2.490   2.258   2.232   2.202  2.243  2.319
2.296
090119  2.296  2.377  2.613   2.514   2.297   2.264   2.227  2.249  2.338
2.319
090112  2.314  2.395  2.621   2.516   2.322   2.289   2.244  2.235  2.353
2.334
090105  2.291  2.380  2.596   2.496   2.310   2.272   2.228  2.215  2.275
2.239
081229  2.327  2.423  2.638   2.536   2.355   2.314   2.264  2.250  2.273
2.241
081222  2.366  2.469  2.689   2.566   2.406   2.359   2.306  2.272  2.274
2.251
081215  2.422  2.534  2.740   2.642   2.469   2.406   2.378  2.350  2.303
2.292
081208  2.515  2.632  2.849   2.742   2.564   2.491   2.465  2.447  2.421
2.402
081201  2.615  2.735  2.954   2.875   2.655   2.578   2.556  2.577  2.553
2.538
081124  2.664  2.788  2.997   2.925   2.710   2.624   2.598  2.644  2.608
2.605
081117  2.809  2.924  3.148   3.072   2.840   2.764   2.745  2.822  2.768
2.754
081110  2.944  3.060  3.266   3.203   2.980   2.888   2.895  2.964  2.910
2.913
081103  3.088  3.219  3.420   3.369   3.137   3.018   3.033  3.157  3.052
3.057
081027  3.288  3.397  3.573   3.509   3.333   3.244   3.219  3.375  3.233
3.286
081020  3.482  3.553  3.729   3.633   3.503   3.447   3.453  3.555  3.433
3.460
081013  3.659  3.709  3.892   3.794   3.655   3.641   3.631  3.697  3.622
3.656
081006  3.875  3.928  4.036   3.978   3.896   3.858   3.843  3.886  3.847
3.869
080929  3.959  4.020  4.077   4.073   3.992   3.936   3.929  3.944  3.941
3.963
080922  3.958  4.021  4.110   4.081   3.987   3.931   3.924  3.964  3.943
3.951
080915  4.023  4.082  4.246   4.166   4.031   3.973   4.011  4.041  4.056
4.053
080908  4.059  4.100  4.312   4.246   4.018   4.015   4.015  4.105  4.156
4.185
080901  4.121  4.169  4.359   4.307   4.093   4.066   4.068  4.184  4.248
4.282
080825  4.145  4.199  4.382   4.360   4.113   4.073   4.098  4.227  4.286
4.359
080818  4.207  4.263  4.422   4.414   4.184   4.130   4.156  4.319  4.356
4.422
080811  4.353  4.420  4.584   4.563   4.344   4.267   4.299  4.473  4.511
4.607
080804  4.502  4.563  4.735   4.672   4.501   4.419   4.450  4.605  4.664
4.781
080728  4.603  4.664  4.806   4.772   4.604   4.518   4.570  4.657  4.766
4.869
080721  4.718  4.773  4.869   4.869   4.723   4.649   4.701  4.714  4.845
4.964
080714  4.764  4.822  4.889   4.912   4.777   4.698   4.737  4.718  4.909
5.026
080707  4.727  4.789  4.863   4.887   4.741   4.654   4.697  4.672  4.886
5.001
080630  4.645  4.704  4.822   4.822   4.643   4.571   4.604  4.638  4.817
4.928
080623  4.648  4.711  4.833   4.831   4.648   4.574   4.602  4.652  4.816
4.922
080616  4.692  4.752  4.853   4.874   4.690   4.618   4.656  4.685  4.852
4.969
080609  4.692  4.743  4.834   4.879   4.677   4.615   4.658  4.698  4.874
4.992
080602  4.707  4.759  4.846   4.907   4.687   4.643   4.664  4.680  4.878
5.027
080526  4.723  4.779  4.843   4.913   4.717   4.667   4.673  4.653  4.883
5.027
080519  4.497  4.544  4.610   4.682   4.480   4.463   4.443  4.442  4.610
4.737
080512  4.331  4.377  4.463   4.516   4.310   4.298   4.268  4.276  4.454
4.547
080505  4.149  4.194  4.337   4.345   4.117   4.101   4.084  4.156  4.303
4.382
080428  4.177  4.230  4.346   4.376   4.157   4.133   4.113  4.141  4.312
4.390
080421  4.143  4.207  4.346   4.370   4.126  

Re: [MBZ] OT, equalizer V bass/treble

2009-02-02 Thread Fmiser
  Fmiser wrote:
 
  Attached is a graphic that shows the various frequencies,
  where some musical instruments fit in, what frequency range
  common radio and telephone use, and where speech sounds fit.

 OK wrote:

 That is a cool chart - thanks for sending it.

I built that for pro AV training I sometimes do. Glad you like it. *smile*

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] holy crap did I turn a profit on this thing or what and then fall for a scam because I am soft?

2009-02-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

looks that way

OK Don wrote:

So the sniper back-fired on them!

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:


well by looking at the bid times, looks like they probably used a snipper.
 If they really did put in the wrong amount they put it in their snipping
tool.






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