Re: [MBZ] Sterring gearbox

2009-03-01 Thread LarryT

Thx Barry - looks like it'll work - right?

LarryT
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Stark barryst...@roadrunner.com

To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sterring gearbox



Larry -
Best I can do is an '83 TDM says it covers from Jan '80 to '83. It appears
that all 240Ds are 123.123 and it also appears that all 123 take the 
765.704

(LS90) gearbox, P/N 123.460.58.01. Assumes power steering and left hand
steering.

Barry

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of larry turner
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:47 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] Sterring gearbox

I need a replacement Steering G'box and found one in a 83.  Which PS GB's
will fit a 78 240D W123?  I hope you will say any other W123 -
;-)

LarryT
78 240D  91 300D



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Re: [MBZ] '94 or '95 W124 Headlight Lenses/Wipers [was Re: European Headlights]

2009-03-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig McCluskey wrote:


I take it, then, that our '94 E420 has Euro headlights, as shown in the
attached picture.


Looks like aftermarket euros with smoked turn signals.
Is there a brand molded in the glass?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Snowmobile

2009-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
I guess I'm somewhat of the resident expert on outdated old snowmobiles...

www.deadsledwrenchers.net

4 inches is about the minimum but it really depends on the type of snow and 
type of machine. 4 inches of powder is a waste of time, it'll just blow away 
and be useless. What you really want for building a good trail is heavy wet 
snow that sticks, ride on it a couple times and then get a good freeze...

So on the machine front for low snow conditions I'd want a fan cooled bogie 
wheel sled. Bogie wheels give a lousy ride but you grease them where a slide 
suspension is lubricated by the snow. Bogie wheels will survive in a lot of 
situations where slides will be destroyed.

A warning though, $100 buys in a snowmobile about what you'd expect it to buy 
in a car... Plan on putting 5 times that amount into a $100 machine to be able 
to ride it any amount at which point the resulting machine is worth about 
$200...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:26:07 -0600
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT Snowmobile
To: Mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 20090228212607.cbf1f6f1.fmi...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

So how much snow is needed to consider using a snowmobile?

I'm thinking an old, out-dated $100 machine. We don't get much
snow around here, but once or twice a winter there's enough I'd
consider cross-country skiing. Is 4 inches (10 cm) enough? Or am
I crazy for even thinking about it?

Maybe I should just get a dirt/snow bike...

--           Philip


  
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Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?

2009-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm going back and forth about what I want to do. Will spend a little time 
looking for the receipt today and then maybe take a ride over. I like the idea 
of buying one and replacing, thats a pretty easy job. I doubt they'll have them 
on the shelf...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:35:49 -0500
From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?
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If you bought the Lifetime warranty front calipers from Advanced auto 
they should give you new rebuilt ones free. I haven't had any problems 
with that on stuff I've bought there. Just take the old ones in and they 
can look it up and give you the new ones. Or you can buy new ones and 
then bring the old ones in and they will refund the money.

Manfred


  
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Re: [MBZ] AUX Air Valve/idle air valve/idle speed adjuster/idle control valve

2009-03-01 Thread E M
So, is there a way I can put some power to it while out of the car, to
observe it working?  Also, how would I test the electrical connector, to
ensure there isn't something wrong with the wire down stream that's
preventing power from even getting to the valve.

Keep in mind, you have to talk slow.  I have a pretty good multimeter, but
electrical items are not my forte.  red sticky think on meter goes in
little hole by the tomato paste can type talk works best when giving
instructions to me with anything electrical. lol

Thanks in advance,

Ed
300E

2009/3/1 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

 You may heat and cool it all you like but being fully electrical in
 operation you will be wasting your time, it is not like the earlier ones
 found in K jet cars.
 Difference being that the K jet ones where cold idle valves which basically
 has a cold engine setting and warm engine setting, whereas the newer ones
 work all the time to stabilize the engine idle and compensate for extra
 load.

 Hendrik

 E M wrote:

 Beside the voltage from the electrical connection, which I understand just
 heats a bi metal strip faster, won't the bi metal strip operate the same
 way
 when subjected to heat and cold, only slower?

 Is there a way to test the electrical connection too to ensure proper
 power
 is getting to the valve?  I have a pretty good multimeter, but need some
 guidance as to what setting I should put it on for testing?

 Thanks Hendrik

 Ed
 300E





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Re: [MBZ] A Nissan-ed W123? -- construction

2009-03-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Thanks for that info.  My guy worked for Ted Benson for awhile, so he 
learned a lot from him.  Ted Benson was sorta the guy for the revival of 
modern timber framing back in the 70s/80s, I have his first book right 
here in my pile I am studying (bought it in the early 80s).  I talked 
Friday to some folks in Maine who have some standard frames they build 
and sell, one they have with some minor mods/additions is close to what 
I am trying to do, and the price is pretty good.  Issue is the hurricane 
and seismic requirements (I discovered we are in a very active seismic 
zone, with high probability of a Big One -- YOW!).  So need to have a 
local engineer stamp the structure plans before I can get permits.


A lot of these companies are now doing their cutting with automated 
equipment, big CNC machines.  I built myself a little one, maybe I 
should make a bigger one!


I had this idea of using the local guy, and his students -- apparently 
they usually do summer internships and this year that might be somewhat 
limited, so I could just have them do my project, and I get to 
work/learn with them.  I have a few big trees I might use, or maybe in a 
later house addition, and there is a guy down the road with a portable 
sawmill who cuts timbers.  Easy enough to get pine or cypress, maybe oak.


This guy is supposed to get back to me this week with his ideas, it 
might be cheaper to get a frame built and shipped here, then assemble 
and erect it with some helpers and a crane.  I'll be figuring it out.


--R

MG wrote:

Rich,
There was a recent This Old House where they used a timber framing 
company in the northeast. The company, Bensonwood, drew up the plans 
with input from the owners to be and then produced the timbers as well 
as the wall and roof sections that went with them. They basically put 
the whole thing together in sections at the factory to make sure 
everything fits and then it is all shipped to the site and put 
together by the same team.  Sounds like the easy way to do the whole 
thing. This is the link to the the Weston House.
http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/tv/products-and-services/resources/0,,20198092,00.html 



the timberframe company that did the house is;

Bensonwood
tel. 877-203-3562
http://www.bensonwood.com/

And this link should answer a lot of your questions.
http://www.bensonwood.com/about/faq.cfm

Manfred




Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:41:34 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A Nissan-ed W123? -- construction




I am trying to get a Professor of Timber Framing at the local American
College of the Building Arts here to help me get a timber frame designed
and cut, for some reason the professor can't find an engineer to approve
the design.  Must not be an aspect of the curriculum?  I suppose I could
do all the structural calculations for the frame design, then find
someone to stamp it, but I really wonder why this prof can't sort it out.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?

2009-03-01 Thread Russ Williams

Curt,

No need looking for the receipt. Advance keeps the record of the sale on 
their

system.
Good Luck on changing out the caliper swap out.

Russ

Curt Raymond wrote:

I'm going back and forth about what I want to do. Will spend a little time 
looking for the receipt today and then maybe take a ride over. I like the idea 
of buying one and replacing, thats a pretty easy job. I doubt they'll have them 
on the shelf...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:35:49 -0500
From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 49aa10a5.9040...@yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

If you bought the Lifetime warranty front calipers from Advanced auto 
they should give you new rebuilt ones free. I haven't had any problems 
with that on stuff I've bought there. Just take the old ones in and they 
can look it up and give you the new ones. Or you can buy new ones and 
then bring the old ones in and they will refund the money.


Manfred


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Re: [MBZ] AUX Air Valve/idle air valve/idle speed adjuster/idle control valve

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Cathey

So, is there a way I can put some power to it while out of the car, to
observe it working?


It's got two pins, right?  Feed 12V to them and see if the
slide inside moves.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] '94 or '95 W124 Headlight Lenses/Wipers [was Re: European Headlights]

2009-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

No those are US lights.

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:09:26 -0600 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Euro headlights on a W124 have a single (removable no less) glass  
cover over the entire headlamp -- from the parking/turn signal lamp  
to the grill.  No plastic surround at all, the glass extends from the  
trim at the bottom to the hood and from turn signal to grill,  
including over the fog lamp.


Wiper pivot is toward the outside, not the inside, and the wiper is  
longer so that it will wipe the fog light area as well as the headlamp.


Impossible to mistake one for the other, especially if the DOT  
plastic cover over the fog lamp has not been replaced by now, it will  
be yellowed, dirty, and usually cracked.


I take it, then, that our '94 E420 has Euro headlights, as shown in the
attached picture.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Attn Kaleb: Auto shop going out of business auction

2009-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea I know, and you will be, hopefully soon.

Luther wrote:

No room in the garage?  I can help

Luther

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I just happen to have a truck and trailer standing by, no room in the 
garage though.


Rich Thomas wrote:
That could be seriously dangerous to visit that shop.  With a truck 
and trailer in tow, deadly.


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Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny

2009-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, that would be great, let me know when you can.

Thanks

Tony Wirtel wrote:

From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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yea, I kind of figured, where would one find a gauge that would work?

Peter Frederick wrote:

You will need to get the pressure specs and the gauge hook-ups to test
the control pressures and shift points.

Peter


KAleb- to set pressure for the modulator I used the banjo bolt combo used on
the top thermostat housing of certain w124 cars.  SInce pressure was ~ 50
PSI PVC tubing worked fine, but sounds like you need to measure pump
pressure and working pressure.

If you need the p/n for the bajo bolt let me know; have them at work and can
get them Monday.

Tony Wirtel
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Re: [MBZ] TV converters

2009-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I think everyone is entitled to free cable, sat tv or similar.

Loren Faeth wrote:
Just hooked up my converter box to a set of rabbit ears from a long-dead 
TV.  Hooked that to a TV that my daughter rejects, and i have 9 stations 
and can use a tv that was otherwise unused.  Not bad.  Just wish I could 
get tvland and TCM for free.  Probably better things to come after 
Bambam quits delaying the digital switchover.




Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] '94 or '95 W124 Headlight Lenses/Wipers [was Re: European Headlights]

2009-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
His is a 94, so it has the updated hood, grille, lights and side 
markers, they are US lights though.


Mitch Haley wrote:

Craig McCluskey wrote:


I take it, then, that our '94 E420 has Euro headlights, as shown in the
attached picture.


Looks like aftermarket euros with smoked turn signals.
Is there a brand molded in the glass?
Mitch.

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[MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Glenn Brown
I have yet to see in print any details regarding who initiated and who will
be benefitting financially from the conversion to digital TV in the USA.
Being not much of a reader for many years, I made a promise to myself that I
would rectify this once I retired.  I had cable TV many years ago but gave
it up as I found I wasn't watching much of what wasn't already available on
network TV stations.  Now that I'm retired and living somewhat in the
mountains where TV signals are rather weak and the housing development where
I reside does not permit outside antennae, I decided that I would live with
the two watchable TV stations I could receive using my indoor amplified
antenna as my primary purpose for TV is the evening news.  Surprise, both of
these TV stations were worse-totally unwatchable when the digital TV
converter box was hooked up (Note: This is something that they do not
advertise), so I had to resort to obtaining cable TV.  The nasty part came
when I attempted to return the digital TV converter box to Radio Shack as I
got a that's impossible and rabbit ears are for rabbits argument from
the owner.  It wasn't until a lady cashier interceded and indicated that
she'd handle the return that I was actually able to return the digital TV
converter box.  I wonder if a portion of the monthly bill all of us who are
forced into either Dish or cable TV are paying is going to whoever is
responsible for this conversion?  I previously would shop very seldom at RS,
but now will go purposely go elsewhere.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Cathey

My understanding is that the bandwidth was auctioned off
to the highest bidder(s).  (And that the form of the auction
was a special one, the form of which came from work that
inspired the movie A Beautiful Mind.)

My understanding is also that unless you already got a perfect
analog signal, your digital experience will be much worse,
given the same amount of investment in the antenna end.  Ours
certainly is.  So, to get back what you once had before the change
you will have to cough up a bunch of money and effort.  And if
you live far enough out, you CAN'T get back to where you were.

I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help you.

Yeah.  I think that's short for:

I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help [myself to whatever]
you [have that I want].

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

 My understanding is also that unless you already got a perfect analog
 signal, your digital experience will be much worse,

I don't find this surprising at all.  I largely feel that digital
anything is overrated and in many ways inferior to analog, when it comes
to any kind of media that is used and perceived by the human senses.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT Snowmobile

2009-03-01 Thread Fmiser
 Curt wrote:

 I guess I'm somewhat of the resident expert on outdated old
 snowmobiles...
 
 www.deadsledwrenchers.net
 
 4 inches is about the minimum but it really depends on the
 type of snow and type of machine. 4 inches of powder is a
 waste of time, it'll just blow away and be useless. What you
 really want for building a good trail is heavy wet snow that
 sticks, ride on it a couple times and then get a good freeze...

Build, ride a couple times, get a good freeze

This sounds like a multi-day deal. *sigh* I'm in the wrong part
of the country for that. It's been years since it snowed on top
of snow on the ground. We just got a fluffy 6 inches - which is
odd. Usually its sleet/rain/freezing-rain/snow combination. More
than 4 inches is considered a big snow!

 So on the machine front for low snow conditions I'd want a fan
 cooled bogie wheel sled.

Got it.

 A warning though, $100 buys in a snowmobile about what you'd
 expect it to buy in a car... Plan on putting 5 times that
 amount into a $100 machine to be able to ride it any amount at
 which point the resulting machine is worth about $200...

Yeah, but for at most 4 days a year, how much do I want to
spend?! 

  Maybe I should just get a dirt/snow bike...

This is looking like a more sensible idea. Or maybe I should
just get a 'mog!

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?

2009-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
I thought that was the case but couldn't remember for sure. I'll call 'em 
tomorrow and get a replacement ordered...

The swap should be easy, I did all the fronts last fall, barely 3,000 miles at 
most. I did everything when I did 'em, calipers, rotors, hoses, pads... Should 
come back apart pretty easy and relatively quick.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:16:26 -0600
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net
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Curt,

No need looking for the receipt. Advance keeps the record of the sale on 
their
system.
Good Luck on changing out the caliper swap out.

Russ

Curt Raymond wrote:

I'm going back and forth about what I want to do. Will spend a little
time looking for the receipt today and then maybe take a ride over. I
like the idea of buying one and replacing, thats a pretty easy job. I
doubt they'll have them on the shelf...

 -Curt

 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:35:49 -0500
 From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
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 If you bought the Lifetime warranty front calipers from Advanced auto 
 they should give you new rebuilt ones free. I haven't had any problems 
 with that on stuff I've bought there. Just take the old ones in and they 
 can look it up and give you the new ones. Or you can buy new ones and 
 then bring the old ones in and they will refund the money.

 Manfred


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT :TV converters

2009-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
God forbid you miss one minute of Survivor...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:14:14 -0600
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I think everyone is entitled to free cable, sat tv or similar.

Loren Faeth wrote:
 Just hooked up my converter box to a set of rabbit ears from a long-dead 
 TV.  Hooked that to a TV that my daughter rejects, and i have 9 stations 
 and can use a tv that was otherwise unused.  Not bad.  Just wish I could 
 get tvland and TCM for free.  Probably better things to come after 
 Bambam quits delaying the digital switchover.
 
 
 
 Loren Faeth


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
For sure theres a money trail somewhere, there always is...
In this case though a big part of the switch is because analog TV is a 
bandwidth hog and chews up a big part of the usable radio wave spectrum. 
Digital allows more channels in less space (thanks to digital compression) the 
idea is to use the space left over to give better radios to firefighters, EMTs, 
police and whatnot.
There are lots of emergency personnel sitting on expensive radio gear they 
can't use yet because the spectrum isn't yet available...

Your experience is the it works or it doesn't factor that digital has vs 
analog. I suspect aggravated by what is probably a cheap (although expensive to 
purchase) digital tuner.

I should point out that other than ensuring I won't get a bonus this year and 
raising my layoff potential, this change over effects me not at all. I haven't 
been able to watch tv from home in the last 10 years. Where I live there are 
zero television stations I can get with a small antenna. Sure for $200 of roof 
antenna I could get a bunch of stations but I really don't care. Don't care to 
pay for cable either. Love to make fun of my in-laws for how much they pay for 
their cable. Hint, when you want to embarrass somebody, calculate how much they 
spend YEARLY. My in-laws spend about $50. When you remind them they spend $600 
a year and that all television is basically garbage it gets 'em riled ;)

-Curt

Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:08:45 -0500
From: Glenn Brown gmb010...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] dijatul
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I have yet to see in print any details regarding who initiated and who will
be benefitting financially from the conversion to digital TV in the USA.
Being not much of a reader for many years, I made a promise to myself that I
would rectify this once I retired.  I had cable TV many years ago but gave
it up as I found I wasn't watching much of what wasn't already available on
network TV stations.  Now that I'm retired and living somewhat in the
mountains where TV signals are rather weak and the housing development where
I reside does not permit outside antennae, I decided that I would live with
the two watchable TV stations I could receive using my indoor amplified
antenna as my primary purpose for TV is the evening news.  Surprise, both of
these TV stations were worse-totally unwatchable when the digital TV
converter box was hooked up (Note: This is something that they do not
advertise), so I had to resort to obtaining cable TV.  The nasty part came
when I attempted to return the digital TV converter box to Radio Shack as I
got a that's impossible and rabbit ears are for rabbits argument from
the owner.  It wasn't until a lady cashier interceded and indicated that
she'd handle the return that I was actually able to return the digital TV
converter box.  I wonder if a portion of the monthly bill all of us who are
forced into either Dish or cable TV are paying is going to whoever is
responsible for this conversion?  I previously would shop very seldom at RS,
but now will go purposely go elsewhere.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
I can give 2 examples of places where digital is vastly superior:

#1 CD/MP3 vs tape/lp - I used mp3 but I really mean a good compression scheme 
like aac. I'm also meaning it from a convienence stand point. You want a tape 
player in your car or cd? I seem to remember car record players but I don't 
think I ever saw one. From a convienence standpoint digital audio is way better.

#2 Consumer video cameras. Hi8 was the king of the consumer video tape formats, 
better resolution than VHS (300 vs 200 lines IIRC) and a handier size but its 
ass gets kicked all over town by MiniDV. Smaller tapes that are less expensive 
and more reliable (Hi8 was super fragile) and MUCH better resolution (500 
lines!) make MiniDV the CLEAR choice over the old analog formats, nothing, not 
even 3/4 even comes close.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:34:16 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] dijatul
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Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

 My understanding is also that unless you already got a perfect analog
 signal, your digital experience will be much worse,

I don't find this surprising at all.  I largely feel that digital
anything is overrated and in many ways inferior to analog, when it comes
to any kind of media that is used and perceived by the human senses.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Cathey

I can give 2 examples of places where digital is vastly superior:
#1 CD/MP3 vs tape/lp...#2 Consumer video cameras.


Neither of which have long-range transmission issues.

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Re: [MBZ] AUX Air Valve/idle air valve/idle speed adjuster/idle control valve

2009-03-01 Thread Hendrik Fay
From memory you should be able to hear an audible click as the 
restrictor spins around rather quick, it works on a variable power 
supply principle. Thus if you can hook up your multimeter onto the pins 
while the car is idling you should be able to read some voltage. It is 
possible to make up a MB type of tester that goes between the feed plug 
and receiver on the 'tomato' can but you need some electrical 
connectors. However you should be able to pull the feed plug back far 
enough to get the multimeter probes onto the poles, without braking the 
circuit.


Hendrik
who is not that flash when it comes to electrical thingy a jiggies 
whatsitmit callem..you know what I am talking about


Jim Cathey wrote:

So, is there a way I can put some power to it while out of the car, to
observe it working?


It's got two pins, right?  Feed 12V to them and see if the
slide inside moves.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Hendrik Fay

Huh? From what I have seen digital is far better than the analog stuff.
I particularly like watching football in digital with the surround sound 
on and the sound feed being on 3 channels gives the effect of the crowd 
behind you and the game in front.
Then we come to blueray, which is the enemy of the older actors and 
pornstars. Having recently got a PS3 I can say that it is a load better 
than the PS2 and the other day we cranked up an old PS1 game and the 
graphics was a bit of a shock. Starwars games are a good example, them 
having been produced for all three consoles and you can see the level of 
graphical development.
You don't need a perfect analog signal but if it is a bit wonky you will 
notice the occasional freeze or part distortion, however a 75% signal 
strength will give very good digital results.


Hendrik
living in a 1 0 world

Allan Streib wrote:

Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:

  

My understanding is also that unless you already got a perfect analog
signal, your digital experience will be much worse,



I don't find this surprising at all.  I largely feel that digital
anything is overrated and in many ways inferior to analog, when it comes
to any kind of media that is used and perceived by the human senses.

Allan
  



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Re: [MBZ] AUX Air Valve/idle air valve/idle speed adjuster/idle control valve

2009-03-01 Thread E M
Thanks Hendrik,

Yeah, I can picture what you mean.  The probes on the meter are pretty
narrow, so I think I can do as you suggest, and get them between the
connector and tomato can.  If not, I don't think it would be too hard to rig
up something that would fit.

I'll keep you updated in a few days, -16 today, wee bit chilly to tinker on
cars outdoors.

Thanks again,

Ed
300E

2009/3/1 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

 From memory you should be able to hear an audible click as the restrictor
 spins around rather quick, it works on a variable power supply principle.
 Thus if you can hook up your multimeter onto the pins while the car is
 idling you should be able to read some voltage. It is possible to make up a
 MB type of tester that goes between the feed plug and receiver on the
 'tomato' can but you need some electrical connectors. However you should be
 able to pull the feed plug back far enough to get the multimeter probes onto
 the poles, without braking the circuit.

 Hendrik
 who is not that flash when it comes to electrical thingy a jiggies
 whatsitmit callem..you know what I am talking about


 Jim Cathey wrote:

 So, is there a way I can put some power to it while out of the car, to
 observe it working?


 It's got two pins, right?  Feed 12V to them and see if the
 slide inside moves.

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] STupid 190D tranny

2009-03-01 Thread Tony Wirtel

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 yea, that would be great, let me know when you can.

 Thanks


Kaleb- found that I posted this, so this might be useful for the archives
here.

Listers,

After rebuilding the transmission in my '91 300d I wanted to make sure
pressures were correct.  I found pressure data and a way to set the
modulator pressure ONLY without a proper gauge set.

Your local dealer should have the following pieces:

915036 005100  Hollow Bolt
102 990 00 88  Banjo Bolt

If not already spotless clean the area below the modulator around the
12mm pressure port bolt.  Remove bolt, checking again that all is
clean.  Replace with hollow bolt/banjo bolt combo- will also need
sealing washers, but I had those. In my case the pressure to aim for
was 47psi so I was able to use 1/4 PVC tubing as mine was rated for
50 PSI.  I used a water pressure gauge that read to 80 PSI; a bit more
coarse that I would have liked but it got the job done.  Gauge was
checked for accuracy beforehand.  It should be noted that all tubing,
fittings and the gauge were all new and previously unused.  This isn't
somewhere I wanted to chance contamination.  I used about 8 feet of
tubing to have enough to read inside the car.

Connected the gauge and confirmed that there were no leaks.  Was
curious to see that there was very little difference in pressure at 31
MPH or at idle, but I did both.  Adjust the modulator by removing the
cap, pulling the tee out a bit and rotating- a little rotation goes a
long way.  I think I replaced the cap between readings as my modulator
(new, updated style) leaked vacuum with the cap off- I can't remember
if that made a difference on the gauge.

I'm writing this up ~ 3 months after the fact so if there are more
details needed give me a shout!  Modulator pressures for a range of
transmissions are below; these are all I have.

Note that this method is appropriate for the modulator pressure only:
The pump/line pressure can get to 200 PSI which will spectacularly burst PVC
tubing
of the type I used.

Tony Wirtel



722.4 Models Set @ 31 MPH
Version Color PSI

.400 Green 46
.403 Green 44
.408 Green 57
.409 Red 48
.410 Green 51
.413 Red 47
.414 Brown 41
.416 Black 44
.418 Red* 47* To serial #813648
Black* 47** From Serial #813649

722.3 Models Set @ 31 MPH
Version Color PSI

.301 Green 51
.303 Green 42
.304 Red 51
.309 Red 41
.310 Red 57
.311 White 48
.312 Red 54
.313 Red 58
.315 Green 42
.317 Black 46
.320 Black 57
.321 Black 46
.323 Red 58
.324 Green 52
.342 Black 58
.350 Black 55
.351 Black 58
.352 Red 55
.353 Black 59
.355 Black 55
.358 Black 58
.359 Red 55
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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 I can give 2 examples of places where digital is vastly superior:

 #1 CD/MP3 vs tape/lp - I used mp3 but I really mean a good compression
 scheme like aac. I'm also meaning it from a convienence stand
 point. You want a tape player in your car or cd?

Neither really.  I listen to the radio.  I occasionally play CDs; before
that it was cassette tapes which worked just as well for me, were
cheaper and less prone to damage.

 From a convienence standpoint digital audio is way better.

In some regards I agree but I've lost hundreds of dollars worth of
digital video (DVDs) because of scratches on the media that render the
disk unplayable.  I don't recall ever damaging a VHS cassette to the
point where it would not play.

The resolution of VHS is good enough for me.  I know some people put
more value on that than I do.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:

 Then we come to blueray, which is the enemy of the older actors and
 pornstars.

Based on my experience with DVD I will NEVER purchase a blue ray player.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Cathey

Huh? From what I have seen digital is far better than the analog stuff.


Sure, when it's working it's working perfectly.  But unless it's
happy, it's working not at all.  There is no gradual degradation
as it falls off.  All or nothing.  1 == have TV, 0 == no have TV.

We are in no have TV right now.  Whereas before we had
somewhat crappy, but still watchable TV.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Rich Thomas

Does Rusty sell those new transmissions too?

--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

I can give 2 examples of places where digital is vastly superior:
#1 CD/MP3 vs tape/lp...#2 Consumer video cameras.


Neither of which have long-range transmission issues.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?

2009-03-01 Thread MG
If they asked you for your phone number when you bought them they will 
have the calipers registered on the computer. All you have to do is go 
in and ask. They can look it up.


Manfred



Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:08:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Caliper Repair?

I'm going back and forth about what I want to do. Will spend a little 
time looking for the receipt today and then maybe take a ride over. I 
like the idea of buying one and replacing, thats a pretty easy job. I 
doubt they'll have them on the shelf...


-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] AUX Air Valve/idle air valve/idle speed adjuster/idle control valve

2009-03-01 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah especially if you are wearing a frilly skirt, harden up and grow a 
set :-)

-16 blah, we used to wear shorts and go barefoot unless it got to minus 20.

Hendrik

E M wrote:


I'll keep you updated in a few days, -16 today, wee bit chilly to tinker on
cars outdoors.

Thanks again,

Ed
300E
  



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Try this   
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/01/ 
maker_workshop_pdf_dtv_antenna.html  They supposedly work quite well.


Just built it, with my son's help.  Now we have two channels.
(Though the added one is marginal, you have to watch where you stand,
and the antenna only brings it in when perched precariously on top
of the TV.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Hendrik Fay
Don't know if there are differences between your system and ours but 
sure there has to be a certain amount of signal for digital to work but 
it too has the fade out where the picture freezes or breaks up because 
the signal is too weak. For instance we have a ethnic broadcaster who 
can't afford a powerful transmitter and because we live in the hills our 
reception is wonky for this broadcaster. It will work in our lounge but 
has freezes and picture distortion but I cannot get the station on our 
2nd antenna which serves the bedroom and my daughters TV.
I even put in a new antenna but will have to upgrade the cable to better 
quality one.
Connectors, antenna and cabling quality are all important in getting a 
good digital signal, not so important with analog.


Hendrik

Jim Cathey wrote:

Huh? From what I have seen digital is far better than the analog stuff.


Sure, when it's working it's working perfectly.  But unless it's
happy, it's working not at all.  There is no gradual degradation
as it falls off.  All or nothing.  1 == have TV, 0 == no have TV.

We are in no have TV right now.  Whereas before we had
somewhat crappy, but still watchable TV.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-03-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:04:27 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
wrote:

  Try this   
  http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/01/ 
  maker_workshop_pdf_dtv_antenna.html  They supposedly work quite well.
 
 Just built it, with my son's help.  Now we have two channels.
 (Though the added one is marginal, you have to watch where you stand,
 and the antenna only brings it in when perched precariously on top
 of the TV.)

So, put a cup hook in a joist in the ceiling and hang it from that ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '94 or '95 W124 Headlight Lenses/Wipers [was Re: European Headlights]

2009-03-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:12:04 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 No those are US lights.

You're right. I looked at them in the light today and the numbers on the
lower edge of the glass say, SAE ... 


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Fmiser
 Curt wrote:

 I can give 2 examples of places where digital is vastly
 superior:
 
 #1 CD/MP3 vs tape/lp - I used mp3 but I really mean a good
 compression scheme like aac. I'm also meaning it from a
 convienence stand point.

Okay. I can agree that it's more convenient. But I don't
consider that to be a factor in superior.

I doubt I can hear the difference between good analog and 96
kHz/24 bit digital. CD, at 44.1 kHz/16 bit is way better than
cassette tape, but 15 ips 1/4 inch half-track on a decent
machine is less convenient, but sounds superior to CD. And if
you haven't heard direct-to-disk vinyl LP Aaah.

 #2 Consumer video cameras. Hi8 was the king of the consumer
 video tape formats, better resolution than VHS (300 vs 200
 lines IIRC).

Color VHS SP was 240 lines because of the chroma filter. Black
and white was just over 300 lines. But only on good gear, well
adjusted, and good tape.

 and a handier size but its ass gets kicked all
 over town by MiniDV. Smaller tapes that are less expensive
 and more reliable (Hi8 was super fragile) and MUCH better
 resolution (500 lines!) make MiniDV the CLEAR choice over
 the old analog formats, nothing, not even 3/4 even comes
 close.

3/4 U-Matic was a consumer format only for a couple years. Then
Betamax came out. I don't really consider 3/4 to be
consumer. I suspect there were more 1/2 inch open-reel video
records sold to cosumers than 3/4 inch. *smile*

But is mini-DV always superior? Depends on your criteria. VHS
at SLP had no compression artifacts. Get some full color, high
motion scenes and a 1st generation VHS tape can be superior to
mini-DV.

Low motion scenes with high-resolution color and a 2nd or 3rd
generation VHS and I think even a blind man could tell the
difference!

A few years ago, I compared a 1st gen S-VHS tape shot with a
Plumbicon tube camera and recorded on a Panasonic portable
recorder to the image from a entry-level broadcast mini-DV
camcorder. The S-VHS looked better. I also looked at a 1st
generation 3/4 inch tape recorded from an industrial Saticon
tube camera. The depth of the color made mini-DV look
cheap. But I wouldn't want to carry either combination for
more than half an hour! Mini-DV easily wins when mass is a
factor!!

I see the biggest advatange of mini-DV is that it has
practically no generational losses - like the old 1 type-C
with direct color recording. VHS, with it's color-under
heterodyne has a color resolution of about 50 lines.

Educational side note: Video camera resolution is measured
in lines. It is not a direct conversion to pixels. Each
line is a black and white pair of lines. It is counted on
the left side of the screen for a distance equal to the
vertical dimention.  Thus 300 lines means the on left
3/4 of the screen it's possible to discern a pattern that
fills the screen with 400 black and 400 white lines.

Then add to the mix the advances in cameras. Put nearly any of
the modern mini-DV camera's video into VHS and it would look
better than the best of the contemporary cameras.

Me? I shoot mini-DV, revel in the convenience of non-linear
editing and lossless duplicating, marvel at the flexibility I
get with DVD authoring, and enjoy the variety and simplicity
compressed audio.

-- Philip

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[MBZ] OT - Programmable Remote Reviews?

2009-03-01 Thread LWB250
Anybody out there recently bought or used one of the Rhapsody or Logitech 
programmable remotes?

One of my partners has a HUGE AV system at his house that was installed several 
years ago - stereo, DISH network, HDTV (projection), DVD, VCR, etc., etc.  
Along with all this hardware are about 20 remotes, or so it seems.

When we go over there to watch a movie or something on TV, I think it's just 
serendipity that he gets everything working together, or so it seems.  He's not 
a techie sort of guy either, which just compounds things.

I told his wife that I would research these things for her and recommend one 
(that I will no doubt be setting up and installing, I'm sure.)

Dan


  

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Re: [MBZ] dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
For instance we have a ethnic broadcaster who 
can't afford a powerful transmitter 


If you said ethnic around here, we'd think you were talking Mexican/Hispanic.
Is that a euphemism for Aboriginal, or does it mean something else?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] AUX Air Valve/idle air valve/idle speed adjuster/idle control valve

2009-03-01 Thread E M
It's having the set drop off that I worry about. ;-)

Ed
300E

2009/3/1 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

 Yeah especially if you are wearing a frilly skirt, harden up and grow a set
 :-)
 -16 blah, we used to wear shorts and go barefoot unless it got to minus 20.

 Hendrik

 E M wrote:


 I'll keep you updated in a few days, -16 today, wee bit chilly to tinker
 on
 cars outdoors.

 Thanks again,

 Ed
 300E




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Re: [MBZ] TV converters

2009-03-01 Thread OK Don
Really! And I suppose that also would include free electricity, water,
phone, Internet, food, health care, etc.? Have you been reading Marx lately?

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: OT Pinnacle TV adapter

2009-03-01 Thread OK Don
Better yet, put it on top of a 40 foot tower - where an antenna belongs!

So, put a cup hook in a joist in the ceiling and hang it from that ...



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Re: [MBZ] W123 upper links - DIY job?

2009-03-01 Thread David Bruckmann
Thanks for the responses on the upper links. Seems like it is a reasonably 
straightforward process. I suppose it is fairly mandatory to have the alignment 
adjusted afterwards...

D.

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Re: [MBZ] TV converters

2009-03-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

sure, might as well.

OK Don wrote:

Really! And I suppose that also would include free electricity, water,
phone, Internet, food, health care, etc.? Have you been reading Marx lately?

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:


I think everyone is entitled to free cable, sat tv or similar.






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Re: [MBZ] OT: dijatul

2009-03-01 Thread Jim Cathey

at SLP had no compression artifacts. Get some full color, high
motion scenes and a 1st generation VHS tape can be superior to
mini-DV.


Was watching a travelogue on PBS today, and some of the
motion fades were just grotesque.  Analog snow was a relative
constant that you could just watch through and somewhat subtract,
mentally.  This digi-crap that comes and goes on its own whim
is quite irritating.

-- Jim



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