Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Bill R
Very cute grandchildren - as are mine, of course. We are heading to Alaska
next Friday for the birth of our latest granddaughter, with another on the
way via our daughter in Atlanta.  At least she is closer. 
BillR

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Hey hey hey -- careful there!

http://don.homelinux.net/~don/granddaughters.jpg

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Richard Hattaway
rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote:


 Apparently, Rusty is not doing as well as he once did.  I'm sure it's
 related to old age.  He's getting into the grandpa years now.



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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Bill R
You mean Flowmax?  How's that for a drug name?

Wilton


Very descriptive???
BillR


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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread MG
That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have had no 
problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig memory stick, two 
different USB printers and an HP camera. All of them said 'requires 
USB2'. From what I understand, most everything USB2 is backward 
compatible with USB1, (with the exception of some things that may try to 
draw more power from the port then it can provide) it just does the 
information transfer slower. That said I imagine that anything that 
absolutely requires fast info transfer in order to work probably won't 
work quite right but stuff like memory sticks, cameras, harddrives and 
printers should not need any converters or different cables in order to 
work. At least in my experience with all of the mentioned items that 
were labeled USB2. The only time a converter would even help is in the 
case of a desktop where you will get faster performance by adding a new 
USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on a laptop where the USB port 
can't be added to a free slot or if the 'converter' is connected to the 
USB1 port that is already on the computer there will be no difference in 
the speed with which the info is transfered because the bottleneck is in 
the USB1 port and a converter' or cable plugged into it cannot overcome 
that, though it may be able to limit or prevent the item from drawing 
too much power and possibly damaging the hardware, if it is designed 
with that in mind. I was told that the only way around this is if the 
hardware is such that there is the possibility of upgrading the software 
driver to be able to then transfer info at USB2 speeds. However that 
would only be possible if the manufacture could and would upgrade the 
driver or if you yourself are able to do that. That is way beyond my 
capabilities. Most of this is from personal experience and the rest from 
talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1, check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter.  Coupla days
ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser printer; even
saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the PHYSICAL 
difference between the USB 2 and the  USB 1 ports.  All of the ports on my 
new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X ~1/4); the USB 1 port on my 
laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and rounded on one side.  There's no way 
that I can operate a USB 1 device with my computer without some way to 
convert the physical connections between the two to allow the electrons to 
flow freely  between them.  I can't physically plug a USB 1 plug into my 
computer; I HAVE to use some type of converter (cable or otherwise) to 
connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my computer.  Of course, if the USB 1 
device has a plug that will fit into a USB 2 port, I would expect it to work 
fine without any converter.


Wilton

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From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have had no 
problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig memory stick, two 
different USB printers and an HP camera. All of them said 'requires USB2'. 
From what I understand, most everything USB2 is backward compatible with 
USB1, (with the exception of some things that may try to draw more power 
from the port then it can provide) it just does the information transfer 
slower. That said I imagine that anything that absolutely requires fast 
info transfer in order to work probably won't work quite right but stuff 
like memory sticks, cameras, harddrives and printers should not need any 
converters or different cables in order to work. At least in my experience 
with all of the mentioned items that were labeled USB2. The only time a 
converter would even help is in the case of a desktop where you will get 
faster performance by adding a new USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on 
a laptop where the USB port can't be added to a free slot or if the 
'converter' is connected to the USB1 port that is already on the computer 
there will be no difference in the speed with which the info is transfered 
because the bottleneck is in the USB1 port and a converter' or cable 
plugged into it cannot overcome that, though it may be able to limit or 
prevent the item from drawing too much power and possibly damaging the 
hardware, if it is designed with that in mind. I was told that the only 
way around this is if the hardware is such that there is the possibility 
of upgrading the software driver to be able to then transfer info at USB2 
speeds. However that would only be possible if the manufacture could and 
would upgrade the driver or if you yourself are able to do that. That is 
way beyond my capabilities. Most of this is from personal experience and 
the rest from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1, check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter.  Coupla 
days

ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser printer; even
saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Peter Frederick
USB is USB, but there are several different connectors.  The only  
real difference is speed, and believe me, USB 1.1 is SLOW.  Power  
draw is limited to 500mA per port, so if you want to power devices  
off a hub plugged into a computer, you really have to get a powered  
hub, and some hard drive cases have a dual plug to get more juice.   
Needless to say, two plugs into a hub without external power is  
limited to 500mA anyway...


I vastly prefer FireWire, but you do have to be careful with it -- it  
can short between the power and signal lines and fry things while USB  
usually won't.


I bought a new printer (actually, a broken used one now fixed)  
because I couldn't use my Epson Photo EX with my new Macs, then found  
that there are USB to parallel converters that work just fine with  
it, as does Gutenprint so I now have a duplicate printer  I'll  
have more soon, as I'm trying to locate a pigment ink BW photo  
printer to do duplicate photo albums for the family -- we have boxes  
of photographs, negative, and slides going back to the 1920s (and  
maybe earlier -- when were 116 cameras first availabe?) and everyone  
wants a copy of the good ones.  I'm printing on archival paper with  
good pigment inks once I get this organized -- the original negatives  
and prints from the 1930s to the 1950s are still in near perfect  
shape, and I want my new prints to be as good.


Peter


On Apr 11, 2009, at 8:34 AM, MG wrote:

That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have had  
no problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig memory  
stick, two different USB printers and an HP camera. All of them  
said 'requires USB2'. From what I understand, most everything USB2  
is backward compatible with USB1, (with the exception of some  
things that may try to draw more power from the port then it can  
provide) it just does the information transfer slower. That said I  
imagine that anything that absolutely requires fast info transfer  
in order to work probably won't work quite right but stuff like  
memory sticks, cameras, harddrives and printers should not need any  
converters or different cables in order to work. At least in my  
experience with all of the mentioned items that were labeled USB2.  
The only time a converter would even help is in the case of a  
desktop where you will get faster performance by adding a new USB2  
card into a free slot. If it is on a laptop where the USB port  
can't be added to a free slot or if the 'converter' is connected to  
the USB1 port that is already on the computer there will be no  
difference in the speed with which the info is transfered because  
the bottleneck is in the USB1 port and a converter' or cable  
plugged into it cannot overcome that, though it may be able to  
limit or prevent the item from drawing too much power and possibly  
damaging the hardware, if it is designed with that in mind. I was  
told that the only way around this is if the hardware is such that  
there is the possibility of upgrading the software driver to be  
able to then transfer info at USB2 speeds. However that would only  
be possible if the manufacture could and would upgrade the driver  
or if you yourself are able to do that. That is way beyond my  
capabilities. Most of this is from personal experience and the rest  
from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1, check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter.   
Coupla days
ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser  
printer; even

saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread E M
I've used 1.1 to 2.0 before, but I seem to be having a problem with the
earlier 1.0 to 2.0. Problem is, this old comp doesn't have a CD burner
either, or I'd just burn the info I want and swap it over that way.  If I
can't get the stick to work in the old 1.0 usb port, I might see if I can
pick up an old CD burner somewhere, for a one time shot of getting
everything off the old comp before fully retiring it.

Ed
300E

2009/4/11 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com

 That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have had no
 problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig memory stick, two
 different USB printers and an HP camera. All of them said 'requires USB2'.
 From what I understand, most everything USB2 is backward compatible with
 USB1, (with the exception of some things that may try to draw more power
 from the port then it can provide) it just does the information transfer
 slower. That said I imagine that anything that absolutely requires fast info
 transfer in order to work probably won't work quite right but stuff like
 memory sticks, cameras, harddrives and printers should not need any
 converters or different cables in order to work. At least in my experience
 with all of the mentioned items that were labeled USB2. The only time a
 converter would even help is in the case of a desktop where you will get
 faster performance by adding a new USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on a
 laptop where the USB port can't be added to a free slot or if the
 'converter' is connected to the USB1 port that is already on the computer
 there will be no difference in the speed with which the info is transfered
 because the bottleneck is in the USB1 port and a converter' or cable
 plugged into it cannot overcome that, though it may be able to limit or
 prevent the item from drawing too much power and possibly damaging the
 hardware, if it is designed with that in mind. I was told that the only way
 around this is if the hardware is such that there is the possibility of
 upgrading the software driver to be able to then transfer info at USB2
 speeds. However that would only be possible if the manufacture could and
 would upgrade the driver or if you yourself are able to do that. That is way
 beyond my capabilities. Most of this is from personal experience and the
 rest from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.

 Manfred



 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


 For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1, check
 office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter.  Coupla
 days
 ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser printer; even
 saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
 adapters/cables.

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Peter Frederick

Wilton:

You need an A to B cable -- those two ports are the two defined in  
the standard.  There are also mini ports on some cameras, phones, and  
devices like iPods that require a special cable.  No converters  
necessary, just a cable with the correct ends.


USB to parallel or USB to SCSI is a converter since it changes the  
signal.


Peter

On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:06 AM, WILTON wrote:

By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the  
PHYSICAL difference between the USB 2 and the  USB 1 ports.  All of  
the ports on my new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X ~1/4);  
the USB 1 port on my laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and rounded on  
one side.  There's no way that I can operate a USB 1 device with my  
computer without some way to convert the physical connections  
between the two to allow the electrons to flow freely  between  
them.  I can't physically plug a USB 1 plug into my computer; I  
HAVE to use some type of converter (cable or otherwise) to  
connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my computer.  Of course, if  
the USB 1 device has a plug that will fit into a USB 2 port, I  
would expect it to work fine without any converter.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have  
had no problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig  
memory stick, two different USB printers and an HP camera. All of  
them said 'requires USB2'. From what I understand, most everything  
USB2 is backward compatible with USB1, (with the exception of some  
things that may try to draw more power from the port then it can  
provide) it just does the information transfer slower. That said I  
imagine that anything that absolutely requires fast info transfer  
in order to work probably won't work quite right but stuff like  
memory sticks, cameras, harddrives and printers should not need  
any converters or different cables in order to work. At least in  
my experience with all of the mentioned items that were labeled  
USB2. The only time a converter would even help is in the case of  
a desktop where you will get faster performance by adding a new  
USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on a laptop where the USB  
port can't be added to a free slot or if the 'converter' is  
connected to the USB1 port that is already on the computer there  
will be no difference in the speed with which the info is  
transfered because the bottleneck is in the USB1 port and a  
converter' or cable plugged into it cannot overcome that, though  
it may be able to limit or prevent the item from drawing too much  
power and possibly damaging the hardware, if it is designed with  
that in mind. I was told that the only way around this is if the  
hardware is such that there is the possibility of upgrading the  
software driver to be able to then transfer info at USB2 speeds.  
However that would only be possible if the manufacture could and  
would upgrade the driver or if you yourself are able to do that.  
That is way beyond my capabilities. Most of this is from personal  
experience and the rest from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1,  
check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter.   
Coupla days
ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser  
printer; even

saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
Yes, that's what I have (A to B cable) for the printer,  and it's working 
fine.  I also have coupla cables with mini plug on one end for camera, GPS, 
etc.


Wilton

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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



Wilton:

You need an A to B cable -- those two ports are the two defined in  the 
standard.  There are also mini ports on some cameras, phones, and  devices 
like iPods that require a special cable.  No converters  necessary, just a 
cable with the correct ends.


USB to parallel or USB to SCSI is a converter since it changes the 
signal.


Peter

On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:06 AM, WILTON wrote:

By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the  PHYSICAL 
difference between the USB 2 and the  USB 1 ports.  All of  the ports on 
my new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X ~1/4);  the USB 1 port on 
my laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and rounded on  one side.  There's no 
way that I can operate a USB 1 device with my  computer without some way 
to convert the physical connections  between the two to allow the 
electrons to flow freely  between  them.  I can't physically plug a USB 1 
plug into my computer; I  HAVE to use some type of converter (cable or 
otherwise) to  connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my computer.  Of 
course, if  the USB 1 device has a plug that will fit into a USB 2 port, 
I  would expect it to work fine without any converter.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have  had no 
problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig  memory stick, two 
different USB printers and an HP camera. All of  them said 'requires 
USB2'. From what I understand, most everything  USB2 is backward 
compatible with USB1, (with the exception of some  things that may try 
to draw more power from the port then it can  provide) it just does the 
information transfer slower. That said I  imagine that anything that 
absolutely requires fast info transfer  in order to work probably won't 
work quite right but stuff like  memory sticks, cameras, harddrives and 
printers should not need  any converters or different cables in order to 
work. At least in  my experience with all of the mentioned items that 
were labeled  USB2. The only time a converter would even help is in the 
case of  a desktop where you will get faster performance by adding a new 
USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on a laptop where the USB  port 
can't be added to a free slot or if the 'converter' is  connected to the 
USB1 port that is already on the computer there  will be no difference 
in the speed with which the info is  transfered because the bottleneck 
is in the USB1 port and a  converter' or cable plugged into it cannot 
overcome that, though  it may be able to limit or prevent the item from 
drawing too much  power and possibly damaging the hardware, if it is 
designed with  that in mind. I was told that the only way around this is 
if the  hardware is such that there is the possibility of upgrading the 
software driver to be able to then transfer info at USB2 speeds. 
However that would only be possible if the manufacture could and  would 
upgrade the driver or if you yourself are able to do that.  That is way 
beyond my capabilities. Most of this is from personal  experience and 
the rest from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1,  check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter.   Coupla 
days
ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser  printer; 
even

saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com writes:

 Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same: connect it up and
 it looks like a USB disk. Move the files off the memory card onto a hard
 disk, umount the camera, and you're set. I have a script, aptly named
 getphoto that does it all.

I think any USB camera is like this -- I have not installed the
software that they come with for the last two cameras -- generally
it's just a wizard that helps you copy the photos to your PC, and some
lame photo organizing and simple editing software (cropping, red-eye,
etc.)

Allan
-- 
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:

 I reckon LG (aka Lucky Goldstar) would have to go in the disposable
 category of household goods.  Years ago I looked at one of their front
 loaders, the nifty part being that they done away with the belt drive
 but the display model had the buttons falling off the front already.

I have an LG, got a good deal on it and it's holding up great so far.
We do at least 2 FULL loads a day, every day --- and often more.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Peter Frederick
I think there is a problem with USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0 -- ver 2.0 is  
backward compatible with 1.1, but most 2.0 devices won't work with  
1.0 or something like that.  No converters that I know of, but a  
new 2.0 card is easy enough, and by now a newer computer isn't a bad  
idea either (I'm limping along with 10 year old ones, and they all  
have USB 1.1)


Peter

On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:24 AM, WILTON wrote:

Yes, that's what I have (A to B cable) for the printer,  and it's  
working fine.  I also have coupla cables with mini plug on one end  
for camera, GPS, etc.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Peter Frederick  
psf...@earthlink.net

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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:12 AM
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Wilton:

You need an A to B cable -- those two ports are the two defined  
in  the standard.  There are also mini ports on some cameras,  
phones, and  devices like iPods that require a special cable.  No  
converters  necessary, just a cable with the correct ends.


USB to parallel or USB to SCSI is a converter since it changes the  
signal.


Peter

On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:06 AM, WILTON wrote:

By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the   
PHYSICAL difference between the USB 2 and the  USB 1 ports.  All  
of  the ports on my new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X  
~1/4);  the USB 1 port on my laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and  
rounded on  one side.  There's no way that I can operate a USB 1  
device with my  computer without some way to convert the  
physical connections  between the two to allow the electrons to  
flow freely  between  them.  I can't physically plug a USB 1 plug  
into my computer; I  HAVE to use some type of converter (cable  
or otherwise) to  connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my  
computer.  Of course, if  the USB 1 device has a plug that will  
fit into a USB 2 port, I  would expect it to work fine without  
any converter.


Wilton

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That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have   
had no problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig   
memory stick, two different USB printers and an HP camera. All  
of  them said 'requires USB2'. From what I understand, most  
everything  USB2 is backward compatible with USB1, (with the  
exception of some  things that may try to draw more power from  
the port then it can  provide) it just does the information  
transfer slower. That said I  imagine that anything that  
absolutely requires fast info transfer  in order to work  
probably won't work quite right but stuff like  memory sticks,  
cameras, harddrives and printers should not need  any converters  
or different cables in order to work. At least in  my experience  
with all of the mentioned items that were labeled  USB2. The  
only time a converter would even help is in the case of  a  
desktop where you will get faster performance by adding a new  
USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on a laptop where the USB   
port can't be added to a free slot or if the 'converter' is   
connected to the USB1 port that is already on the computer  
there  will be no difference in the speed with which the info  
is  transfered because the bottleneck is in the USB1 port and a   
converter' or cable plugged into it cannot overcome that,  
though  it may be able to limit or prevent the item from drawing  
too much  power and possibly damaging the hardware, if it is  
designed with  that in mind. I was told that the only way around  
this is if the  hardware is such that there is the possibility  
of upgrading the software driver to be able to then transfer  
info at USB2 speeds. However that would only be possible if the  
manufacture could and  would upgrade the driver or if you  
yourself are able to do that.  That is way beyond my  
capabilities. Most of this is from personal  experience and the  
rest from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB  
1.1,  check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2  
adapter.   Coupla days
ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser   
printer; even

saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Fmiser
 E M wrote:

 I've used 1.1 to 2.0 before, but I seem to be having a problem
 with the earlier 1.0 to 2.0. Problem is, this old comp doesn't
 have a CD burner either, or I'd just burn the info I want and
 swap it over that way.  If I can't get the stick to work in
 the old 1.0 usb port, I might see if I can pick up an old CD
 burner somewhere, for a one time shot of getting everything
 off the old comp before fully retiring it.

What about using ethernet?  Connect the two computers and
transfer the files.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
SL202 is the model listed on the camera, strangely it isn't on Samsung's 
website other than in a press release, BestBuy's site has it.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9218615type=productid=1218061795648

I paid $129 for the camera and $18 for a 4GB memory card. You NEED the memory 
card, the camera only has like 8MB of internal memory.

I suppose I'll get used to the color but its bright blue, looks almost Fisher 
Price... It'll be harder to lose I suppose.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:04:21 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 20090410180421.4365bca0.diese...@cnsp.com
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Finally tried the Samsung, instantly knew it was the camera I wanted, it
 just felt better than all the others. They had 2 models, a 12MP and
 10MP, I ended up with the 10MP, it was $50 cheaper 

What model? How much?


 and I don't think I'll miss the extra pixels, my Olympus was only 8MP,
 the Fuji I used all winter is only 2MP...

Our camera, a Nikon 775, is 2.1 MP and I usually shoot at 1024x768, so I
wouldn't really know what to do with 10 MP.


 Things I don't really like:
 Its blue...

Does that remind you of IBM? Or what?


Craig




  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
The only camera I've seen that didn't do that was a friend's Canon digital 
SLR... Interestingly that one mounted right up to a windows machine fine...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:17:52 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 23:13:28 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 NO special software or protocol to get the photos!! It mounts
 like an USB flashdrive. Which means not only can linux easily
 interface, but so can the print machine at WalMart.

Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same: connect it up and
it looks like a USB disk. Move the files off the memory card onto a hard
disk, umount the camera, and you're set. I have a script, aptly named
getphoto that does it all.


Craig


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Fmiser
 Allan Streib wrote:

 Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com writes:
 
  Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same:
  connect it up and it looks like a USB disk. Move the files
  off the memory card onto a hard disk, umount the camera, and
  you're set. I have a script, aptly named getphoto that
  does it all.
 
 I think any USB camera is like this -- I have not installed the
 software that they come with for the last two cameras --
 generally it's just a wizard that helps you copy the photos to
 your PC, and some lame photo organizing and simple editing
 software (cropping, red-eye, etc.)

No. Many of them require some proprietary communication between
the camera and the host.

Look at the list of cameras that to work with Linux require
gphoto2.

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
Uhh Wilton, what you got there is not the difference between USB 1 and USB 2 
what you got there is an A-B cable. The computer side is type A, the PC side is 
type B. The idea was to keep people from connecting two computers togeter with 
USB which is NOT a networking medium.

All USB printers have B ports it doesn't matter if they're USB1 or USB2. Theres 
another kind of port (mini? I forget the name) for digital cameras and another 
other one for phones.

AFAIK most USB2 devices are backwards compatable. The only ones that aren't are 
like digital video capture devices that require a larger datapipe in real time 
than USB1 can provide.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:06:25 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the PHYSICAL 
difference between the USB 2 and the  USB 1 ports.  All of the ports on my 
new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X ~1/4); the USB 1 port on my 
laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and rounded on one side.  There's no way 
that I can operate a USB 1 device with my computer without some way to 
convert the physical connections between the two to allow the electrons to 
flow freely  between them.  I can't physically plug a USB 1 plug into my 
computer; I HAVE to use some type of converter (cable or otherwise) to 
connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my computer.  Of course, if the USB 1 
device has a plug that will fit into a USB 2 port, I would expect it to work 
fine without any converter.

Wilton



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 All USB printers have B ports it doesn't matter if they're USB1 or USB2.
 Theres another kind of port (mini? I forget the name) for digital
 cameras and another other one for phones.

Actually, there are different types of mini-USB connectors. The one on our
Nikon 775 at home is different from the one on my Nikon 4300 at work.
Cannot use the same cable on both.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Luther

BUZZT, WRONG, partially.  USB can be a computer-to-computer link.
http://www.linkusb.com/
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248

Luther

Curt Raymond wrote:

Uhh Wilton, what you got there is not the difference between USB 1 and USB 2 
what you got there is an A-B cable. The computer side is type A, the PC side is 
type B. The idea was to keep people from connecting two computers togeter with 
USB which is NOT a networking medium.

All USB printers have B ports it doesn't matter if they're USB1 or USB2. Theres 
another kind of port (mini? I forget the name) for digital cameras and another 
other one for phones.

AFAIK most USB2 devices are backwards compatable. The only ones that aren't are 
like digital video capture devices that require a larger datapipe in real time 
than USB1 can provide.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:14:08 -0500 Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 BUZZT, WRONG, partially.  USB can be a computer-to-computer link.
 http://www.linkusb.com/
 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248


Yes, IF you use a special cable! Else, as the second link says,

  There are the so-called A/A USB cables that, in spite of having two
  standard USB connectors at each end, don't have a bridge chip
  and cannot be used to connect two PCs. In fact, if you use an A/A
  USB cable you can burn the USB ports of your computers or even their
  power supplies. So, these A/A USB cables are completely useless.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:14:08 -0500 Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:


 http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248

Also on hardwaresecrets.com is 

   How to Build a Network Using a Cross-Over Cable
   http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/426

A quite-possible solution to the original poster's problem of a USB 1.0
port.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON

'Guess I should have said adapter instead of converter.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


Yes, that's what I have (A to B cable) for the printer,  and it's working 
fine.  I also have coupla cables with mini plug on one end for camera, 
GPS, etc.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net

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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



Wilton:

You need an A to B cable -- those two ports are the two defined in  the 
standard.  There are also mini ports on some cameras, phones, and 
devices like iPods that require a special cable.  No converters 
necessary, just a cable with the correct ends.


USB to parallel or USB to SCSI is a converter since it changes the 
signal.


Peter

On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:06 AM, WILTON wrote:

By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the  PHYSICAL 
difference between the USB 2 and the  USB 1 ports.  All of  the ports on 
my new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X ~1/4);  the USB 1 port 
on my laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and rounded on  one side.  There's 
no way that I can operate a USB 1 device with my  computer without some 
way to convert the physical connections  between the two to allow the 
electrons to flow freely  between  them.  I can't physically plug a USB 
1 plug into my computer; I  HAVE to use some type of converter (cable 
or otherwise) to  connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my computer.  Of 
course, if  the USB 1 device has a plug that will fit into a USB 2 port, 
I  would expect it to work fine without any converter.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


That's weird. I have an older laptop with USB1.1 ports and have  had no 
problem plugging in an external 1 TB harddrive, 4 gig  memory stick, 
two different USB printers and an HP camera. All of  them said 
'requires USB2'. From what I understand, most everything  USB2 is 
backward compatible with USB1, (with the exception of some  things that 
may try to draw more power from the port then it can  provide) it just 
does the information transfer slower. That said I  imagine that 
anything that absolutely requires fast info transfer  in order to work 
probably won't work quite right but stuff like  memory sticks, cameras, 
harddrives and printers should not need  any converters or different 
cables in order to work. At least in  my experience with all of the 
mentioned items that were labeled  USB2. The only time a converter 
would even help is in the case of  a desktop where you will get faster 
performance by adding a new USB2 card into a free slot. If it is on a 
laptop where the USB  port can't be added to a free slot or if the 
'converter' is  connected to the USB1 port that is already on the 
computer there  will be no difference in the speed with which the info 
is  transfered because the bottleneck is in the USB1 port and a 
converter' or cable plugged into it cannot overcome that, though  it 
may be able to limit or prevent the item from drawing too much  power 
and possibly damaging the hardware, if it is designed with  that in 
mind. I was told that the only way around this is if the  hardware is 
such that there is the possibility of upgrading the software driver to 
be able to then transfer info at USB2 speeds. However that would only 
be possible if the manufacture could and  would upgrade the driver or 
if you yourself are able to do that.  That is way beyond my 
capabilities. Most of this is from personal  experience and the rest 
from talking to various computer 'Geeks'.


Manfred



Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:02:40 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


For putting stuff onto a flash drive (memory stick) via USB 1.1,  check
office/electronics/computer store for USB 1.1 to USB 2 adapter. 
Coupla days
ago, I got USB 2 to USB 1.1 cord to operate my old HP Laser  printer; 
even

saw USB 2 to parallel cable for it along with many other types of
adapters/cables.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
So, the thin, flat ones on the computer are type A, and the nearly square 
one on the PRINTER is type B, right?  Or do I have it bassackwards?  Thanks.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


Uhh Wilton, what you got there is not the difference between USB 1 and USB 2 
what you got there is an A-B cable. The computer side is type A, the PC side 
is type B. The idea was to keep people from connecting two computers togeter 
with USB which is NOT a networking medium.


All USB printers have B ports it doesn't matter if they're USB1 or USB2. 
Theres another kind of port (mini? I forget the name) for digital cameras 
and another other one for phones.


AFAIK most USB2 devices are backwards compatable. The only ones that aren't 
are like digital video capture devices that require a larger datapipe in 
real time than USB1 can provide.


-Curt

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:06:25 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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reply-type=response

By converter I really meant to suggest a way to overcome the PHYSICAL
difference between the USB 2 and the USB 1 ports. All of the ports on my
new computer are USB 2 (thin, flat, ~1/2 X ~1/4); the USB 1 port on my
laser printer is ~5/16 X ~1/4 and rounded on one side. There's no way
that I can operate a USB 1 device with my computer without some way to
convert the physical connections between the two to allow the electrons to
flow freely between them. I can't physically plug a USB 1 plug into my
computer; I HAVE to use some type of converter (cable or otherwise) to
connect a device with a USB 1 plug to my computer. Of course, if the USB 1
device has a plug that will fit into a USB 2 port, I would expect it to work
fine without any converter.

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I went head and replaced the agitator on the old maytag earlier 
this week.  Today I just got back from hauling home my new maytag front 
loading washer and drier.  Wife bitched to the point I broke down and 
bought one.  Crap.  I could have bought a car instead.


Allan Streib wrote:

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:


I reckon LG (aka Lucky Goldstar) would have to go in the disposable
category of household goods.  Years ago I looked at one of their front
loaders, the nifty part being that they done away with the belt drive
but the display model had the buttons falling off the front already.


I have an LG, got a good deal on it and it's holding up great so far.
We do at least 2 FULL loads a day, every day --- and often more.

Allan






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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
BTW, I do have a cable with thin, flat plugs (the 1/2 wide one) on both 
ends.  So, what is that for?


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



BUZZT, WRONG, partially.  USB can be a computer-to-computer link.
http://www.linkusb.com/
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248

Luther

Curt Raymond wrote:
Uhh Wilton, what you got there is not the difference between USB 1 and 
USB 2 what you got there is an A-B cable. The computer side is type A, 
the PC side is type B. The idea was to keep people from connecting two 
computers togeter with USB which is NOT a networking medium.


All USB printers have B ports it doesn't matter if they're USB1 or USB2. 
Theres another kind of port (mini? I forget the name) for digital cameras 
and another other one for phones.


AFAIK most USB2 devices are backwards compatable. The only ones that 
aren't are like digital video capture devices that require a larger 
datapipe in real time than USB1 can provide.


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

 BTW, I do have a cable with thin, flat plugs (the 1/2 wide one) on
 both ends.  So, what is that for?

Didn't some new PCs come with those, intended to be used with some kind
of file transfer program to copy all your files and programs from your
old computer?

Allan
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[MBZ] OT: Arduino

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
Just ran across this.  Anyone familiar with them?  Looks like they could
be fun.

http://www.arduino.cc/

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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Gary Hurst
sounds like someone is trying to tell you something, huh?

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me to
 get it.  Did you order it online or what?


 Wonko the Sane wrote:

 Placed an order about 10:00 yesterday morning. UPS truck just now (2:00
 PM)
 dropped off a box that had 2/3 of the order in it. This box was shipped
 from
 Minneapolis, which might partly explain the speed, but that is still
 pretty
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from the 
old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the instructions 
with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET), and for Win 98, 
Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program with disc or download 
from microsoft. com.  Well, I don't have the disc, and the Microsoft site 
doesn't have the WET for '98 on the site any more.  'Called 92-year-old 
lunch friend and computer gurru (he's probably had a dozen or more computers 
and not a typicle 92-year-old; even owned a computer store and ISP, etc., 
for a while) and asked him if he may have the cable and program.  He brought 
me the A to A cable and said he thought he had the WET program, but he can't 
find it.  I'm afraid the cable he gave me may not really be a bridge cable 
(no hump or bulge anywhere on it), so I haven't plugged it in.


At Staples, I purchased another transfer cable that was supposed to bridge 
the 2 computers, but it turns out the cable is for Win 98SE to Vista; again, 
my old one is Win 98 - can't get it to work.


Anybody have a Windows Easy Transfer cable and disc that I may 
borrow/rent/buy?  (One that'll bridge Win 98 to Vista, that is.)


BTW, I have moved a lota files a few at a time via a flash drive.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


BTW, I do have a cable with thin, flat plugs (the 1/2 wide one) on
both ends.  So, what is that for?


Didn't some new PCs come with those, intended to be used with some kind
of file transfer program to copy all your files and programs from your
old computer?

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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Tom Hargrave
Yah, like Hursty processed the order...

Thanks,
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On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

sounds like someone is trying to tell you something, huh?

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me to
 get it.  Did you order it online or what?


 Wonko the Sane wrote:

 Placed an order about 10:00 yesterday morning. UPS truck just now (2:00
 PM)
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 from
 Minneapolis, which might partly explain the speed, but that is still
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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Gary Hurst
how long something takes is generally no mystery.  it has to do mostly with
where the stuff is.  there's lots of stuff in california and florida, so if
you live there you generally get your parts fast.  i can only talk for
online orders, but i'd say 80% of california and florida orders are
delivered within 24 hours.  that's becasue that's where the parts are!

now if you live in idaho, unless you pay for next day air or the order is
big enough and lucrative enough for me to pay for next day air, YOU AIN'T
GETTING YOUR STUFF IN 24 HOURS.

not all parts are in california or florida though.  for example, if you
simply must have beru wires assembled by beru because your mechanic told you
that only this can help you and that beru wires not put together by beru
will kill you, you might have to wait a week if you are in california as the
parts might only be in jersey.

and if the parts are only in germany, you can wait longer.

it's honest to goodness not mysterious nor complex

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nope. I called the 1-800 and Rusty answered on the second ring.

 Tom must have been in men's room trying to go.  [They have meds for that.]

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
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 to
  get it.  Did you order it online or what?
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

 Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
 the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
 instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
 and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
 with disc or download from microsoft. com.

Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm faster than greased lightning, young man: on those rare occasions when i
am awake, at least.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote:

 Yah, like Hursty processed the order...

 Thanks,
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 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
 Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:15 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

 sounds like someone is trying to tell you something, huh?

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 ka...@striplin.netwrote:

  WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me
 to
  get it.  Did you order it online or what?
 
 
  Wonko the Sane wrote:
 
  Placed an order about 10:00 yesterday morning. UPS truck just now (2:00
  PM)
  dropped off a box that had 2/3 of the order in it. This box was shipped
  from
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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Tom Hargrave
I am too, at least my Wife says so.

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On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

i'm faster than greased lightning, young man: on those rare occasions when i
am awake, at least.

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote:

 Yah, like Hursty processed the order...

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 On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
 Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:15 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

 sounds like someone is trying to tell you something, huh?

 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
 ka...@striplin.netwrote:

  WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me
 to
  get it.  Did you order it online or what?
 
 
  Wonko the Sane wrote:
 
  Placed an order about 10:00 yesterday morning. UPS truck just now (2:00
  PM)
  dropped off a box that had 2/3 of the order in it. This box was shipped
  from
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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Gary Hurst
working blue again, huh hargrave?


On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote:

 I am too, at least my Wife says so.

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 -Original Message-
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 On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
 Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:31 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

 i'm faster than greased lightning, young man: on those rare occasions when
 i
 am awake, at least.

 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net wrote:

  Yah, like Hursty processed the order...
 
  Thanks,
  Tom Hargrave
  www.kegkits.com
  http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/
  256-656-1924 http://www.kegkits.com/JABF/%0A256-656-1924
 
 
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 mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
  On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
  Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:15 PM
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?
 
  sounds like someone is trying to tell you something, huh?
 
  On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
  ka...@striplin.netwrote:
 
   WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me
  to
   get it.  Did you order it online or what?
  
  
   Wonko the Sane wrote:
  
   Placed an order about 10:00 yesterday morning. UPS truck just now
 (2:00
   PM)
   dropped off a box that had 2/3 of the order in it. This box was
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
BZZZTTT! I'm right, USB can be used with a magic adapter as a network but not 
on its own.

-Curt


Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:14:08 -0500
From: Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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BUZZT, WRONG, partially.  USB can be a computer-to-computer link.
http://www.linkusb.com/
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/248

Luther

Curt Raymond wrote:

Uhh Wilton, what you got there is not the difference between USB 1 and
USB 2 what you got there is an A-B cable. The computer side is type A,
the PC side is type B. The idea was to keep people from connecting two
computers togeter with USB which is NOT a networking medium.


All USB printers have B ports it doesn't matter if they're USB1 or
USB2. Theres another kind of port (mini? I forget the name) for digital
cameras and another other one for phones.

 AFAIK most
USB2 devices are backwards compatable. The only ones that aren't are
like digital video capture devices that require a larger datapipe in
real time than USB1 can provide.

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
As far as I know that is correct.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:39:58 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
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So, the thin, flat ones on the computer are type A, and the nearly square 
one on the PRINTER is type B, right?  Or do I have it bassackwards?  Thanks.

Wilton



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:39:58 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 So, the thin, flat ones on the computer are type A, and the nearly
 square  one on the PRINTER is type B, right?  Or do I have it
 bassackwards?  Thanks.

You got it right, Wilton.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:43:07 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 Well I went head and replaced the agitator on the old maytag earlier 
 this week.  Today I just got back from hauling home my new maytag front 
 loading washer and drier.  Wife bitched to the point I broke down and 
 bought one.  Crap.  I could have bought a car instead.

Spousal happiness is a very important factor.


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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread LarryT
While we're talking about computers I thought I'd ask about this - I have a 
500gb Ext Hard Drive and presently it's attached to my desktop with a USB 
cable.  I have a LAN with the Desktop, a Laptop in an adjoining room and a 
printer attached to the desktop.   The cable modem is attached to the router 
the to the desktop and laptop -


I was thinking the Ext HD might perform better if attached to router - - is 
that correct?  I'll need a cable converter to switch from USB to Ethernet 
but those are easy to get.  Would it run faster?  Be more secure?  Make no 
difference?


I'd better not start talking about the things I dislike about Vista - and 
how difficult they make it to go back to XP =


Thx -
LarryT

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.


Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Rick Knoble

Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same: connect it up and
it looks like a USB disk. Move the files off the memory card onto a hard
disk, umount the camera, and you're set. I have a script, aptly named
getphoto that does it all.
Craig


Script?

Please explain

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
Maybe; 'don't know.  The new cabinet is small - roughly 13 X 10 X 4.  I 
do see some empty space inside in  the back part of the cabinet.  How big 
is the old hard drive?  Would it just plug in to some port inside the 
cabinet?


BTW, there is a spare bay on the front of the new cabinet with a 
spring-loaded door labeled HP Pocket Media Drive Bay.  I can see a type B 
USB port at the rear of the bay.  This bay is roughly 3 1/4 X 3/4 X 4. 
Could the old hard drive go there?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.


Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
Just read about HP's Pocket Media hard drive - a compact, portable hard 
drive.  Flash drive seems better.


Wilton

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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


Maybe; 'don't know.  The new cabinet is small - roughly 13 X 10 X 4.  I 
do see some empty space inside in  the back part of the cabinet.  How 
big is the old hard drive?  Would it just plug in to some port inside the 
cabinet?


BTW, there is a spare bay on the front of the new cabinet with a 
spring-loaded door labeled HP Pocket Media Drive Bay.  I can see a type 
B USB port at the rear of the bay.  This bay is roughly 3 1/4 X 3/4 X 
4. Could the old hard drive go there?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.


Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON

Oh, the Pocket Media hard drive is 80GB.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


Just read about HP's Pocket Media hard drive - a compact, portable hard 
drive.  Flash drive seems better.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


Maybe; 'don't know.  The new cabinet is small - roughly 13 X 10 X 4. 
I do see some empty space inside in  the back part of the cabinet.  How 
big is the old hard drive?  Would it just plug in to some port inside the 
cabinet?


BTW, there is a spare bay on the front of the new cabinet with a 
spring-loaded door labeled HP Pocket Media Drive Bay.  I can see a type 
B USB port at the rear of the bay.  This bay is roughly 3 1/4 X 3/4 X 
4. Could the old hard drive go there?


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.


Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea, order from Autohausaz

Gary Hurst wrote:

sounds like someone is trying to tell you something, huh?

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:


WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me to
get it.  Did you order it online or what?


Wonko the Sane wrote:


Placed an order about 10:00 yesterday morning. UPS truck just now (2:00
PM)
dropped off a box that had 2/3 of the order in it. This box was shipped
from
Minneapolis, which might partly explain the speed, but that is still
pretty
quick getting something to rural Iowa.
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
We just put a load in it, I am amazed at the very little amount of water 
it put in there.  In fact, you can open the door in the first 8 minutes 
and we did, and the cloths are somewhat wet, but there does not seem to 
be any loose water in the tub like you would expect.  When it started, 
it started putting water in, for probably a minute or less, then that 
was it.  Amazing.


Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:43:07 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

Well I went head and replaced the agitator on the old maytag earlier 
this week.  Today I just got back from hauling home my new maytag front 
loading washer and drier.  Wife bitched to the point I broke down and 
bought one.  Crap.  I could have bought a car instead.


Spousal happiness is a very important factor.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Russ Williams

Wilton,

Order one of these :
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2020-OTBcat=CBLcpc=CBLbsc
Pull the hard drive from the 98 machine hook it up to to the adapter.
Plug it into the Wista machine and transfer your files.

Russ W.


Allan Streib wrote:

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

  

Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.



Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
  


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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Russ Williams

BTW forgot to tell you in last post.
After you transfer your files. If you are going to scrap the 98 system you
can format the old drive and use it with the adapter as an External 
drive for

the New system.

Russ W.

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Mitch Haley


Christmas morning, my 2004 vintage computer refused to boot, with two different 
power supplies. Probably a bad capacitor on the M/B. So I buy a new Compaq (with 
dual core processor and USB 1.x, what's up with that?) and stick in the hard 
drive from the old computer. Do you think there should be a wizard for copying 
files and settings from the old hard drive to the new one? Would have been nice, 
but nooo, MSFT only provided me with a wizard to cable the new computer to the 
dead one and run a slow transfer across the cable.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Mitch Haley

So, did you fix the old washer, or replace the wrong part?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote:
 So, did you fix the old washer, or replace the wrong part?

Did the fix stop the torn garments problem?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] camera downloads

2009-04-11 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same: connect it up 
 and
 it looks like a USB disk. Move the files off the memory card onto a hard
 disk, umount the camera, and you're set. I have a script, aptly named
 getphoto that does it all
 
As does my Olympus C5050. A desktop icon to click on.

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Re: [MBZ] OK fires

2009-04-11 Thread OK Don
You wish!

Some of the fires were in Midwest City, a suburb of OKC - bordering Tinker
AFB.

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 I've already visited Norman and brought both Don's 2.5s home :D

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Re: [MBZ] OK fires

2009-04-11 Thread OK Don
Oklahoma had snow in the panhandle, tornados in the SE area, and fires in
the center on Friday. Pick your disaster!


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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread OK Don
Smae here. I think it's the special Oklahoma treatment.  It USED to be fast
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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Gary Hurst
i wonder if tom is behind it

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 5:01 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Smae here. I think it's the special Oklahoma treatment.  It USED to be fast
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 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:

  WOW, everytime I order something from Rusty it takes a week or 2 for me
 to
  get it.  Did you order it online or what?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread OK Don
I doubt that anything was going to stop the problems with the old washer
until Regina got the new one she wanted! At least they are less expensive
than new cars!

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Mitch wrote:
  So, did you fix the old washer, or replace the wrong part?

 Did the fix stop the torn garments problem?
 mao


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Re: [MBZ] how fast does Rusty deliver stuff?

2009-04-11 Thread Archer


Does Tom ship orders?  I haven't dealt with Tom in a long time.  I always 
ask for Rusty.  Some orders have been pretty slow coming.

Gerry
- 
From: Gary Hurst

i wonder if tom is behind it

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 5:01 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Smae here. I think it's the special Oklahoma treatment.  It USED to be 
fast



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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Tim C
Wilton,

You will probably need an IDE to SATA converter if you want to use the old hard 
drive in the new PC.  I'd say buy or borrow an IDE (aka ATA or PATA) to USB 
cable, disassemble the old computer, unscrew and unplug the hard drive 
(probably 3.5 x 5 x 1) and then plug it in to the IDE connector, then the 
USB port.Windows should automatically recognize it as a new drive.

I doubt you'd be happy long term with the Windows wizard; even if it 
transferred all your settings correctly there is a good chance it will miss 
some file or other.  Much better to do it by hand.  (If you really really want 
to try I have a W98 CD at home that I can dig out Monday, let me know.)

Thanks,
-Tim

-Original Message-
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:40 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

Maybe; 'don't know.  The new cabinet is small - roughly 13 X 10 X 4.  I 
do see some empty space inside in  the back part of the cabinet.  How big 
is the old hard drive?  Would it just plug in to some port inside the 
cabinet?

BTW, there is a spare bay on the front of the new cabinet with a 
spring-loaded door labeled HP Pocket Media Drive Bay.  I can see a type B 
USB port at the rear of the bay.  This bay is roughly 3 1/4 X 3/4 X 4. 
Could the old hard drive go there?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

 Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
 the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
 instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
 and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
 with disc or download from microsoft. com.

 Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
 install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
 copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

 Allan
 -- 
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:26:07 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
wrote:

  Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same: connect it up
  and it looks like a USB disk. Move the files off the memory card onto
  a hard disk, umount the camera, and you're set. I have a script, aptly
  named getphoto that does it all.
  Craig
 
 Script?
 
 Please explain

A short program written in the language of shell commands in Linux.

Does that explain enough?


Craig

P.S. I can attach the script if you'd like.

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:55:41 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Oh, the Pocket Media hard drive is 80GB.

And probably lots more expensive, being a proprietary packaging.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Arduino

2009-04-11 Thread LWB250

Very, very popular with the MAKE crowd.

http://www.makershed.com/


Dan (A MAKE person himself)

--- On Sat, 4/11/09, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Arduino
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 12:58 PM
 Just ran across this.  Anyone
 familiar with them?  Looks like they could
 be fun.
 
 http://www.arduino.cc/
 
 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote:
 The old hard drive will be 4 wide x 6 long x 1 high.

Amazing that hard drives are so large... still.
I have a pcmia hard drive exhibit that someone gave me as they were
working on the drive design and it was non functional - this was from
15 years ago.  Lexan back cover to see the platters and heads in
single height pcmia slot confiuration.  Since they were making these
that long ago, it seems to me that that should be the format these
days, this long in the future.  Perhaps progress and technology does
not move as fast as we think.  One story I heard today on the radio
was indicating that FBI offices are not connected to the internet -
they need to go to the library to search online.  I guess that is a
good thing, what with the idiots that take a laptop with them
containing personal info on 20k persons - typical insco fiasco,
doctors office fiasco, IRS fiasco - that we all hear on the news.
mao

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[MBZ] Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Tim C
The networked storage will seem faster than USB on the laptop but probably not 
the desktop, if I'm reading your setup correctly. (USB always on desktop, 
laptop uses networked file sharing from desktop?)

You're talking about something more complicated than USB to ethernet, you need 
a USB host (like a computer) for that to work.  There are widgets that allow 
you to put a SATA or IDE drive on an ethernet network - sometimes they double 
as routers - but they aren't particularly cheap, at least compared to USB 
versions.  Consumer models typically run small Linux distros and appear to 
attached machines as Windows file shares, at least.

I can dig up a couple of product links if you still want to go this route.

Best,
-Tim

-Original Message-
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

While we're talking about computers I thought I'd ask about this - I have a 
500gb Ext Hard Drive and presently it's attached to my desktop with a USB 
cable.  I have a LAN with the Desktop, a Laptop in an adjoining room and a 
printer attached to the desktop.   The cable modem is attached to the router 
the to the desktop and laptop -

I was thinking the Ext HD might perform better if attached to router - - is 
that correct?  I'll need a cable converter to switch from USB to Ethernet 
but those are easy to get.  Would it run faster?  Be more secure?  Make no 
difference?

I'd better not start talking about the things I dislike about Vista - and 
how difficult they make it to go back to XP =

Thx -
LarryT

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

 Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
 the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
 instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
 and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
 with disc or download from microsoft. com.

 Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
 install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
 copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

 Allan
 -- 
 1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON

'Been wondering about something like that.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



Wilton,

Order one of these :
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2020-OTBcat=CBLcpc=CBLbsc
Pull the hard drive from the 98 machine hook it up to to the adapter.
Plug it into the Wista machine and transfer your files.

Russ W.


Allan Streib wrote:

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

  

Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.



Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
  


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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON

Agreed.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:55:41 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Oh, the Pocket Media hard drive is 80GB.


And probably lots more expensive, being a proprietary packaging.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Tim C
Standard form factor is advantageous for the commoditization of cases, power 
supplies, etc.  The real capacity per volume is in MicroSD and the like.

Craig, I'd guessed Wilton's new machine to be SATA only?

Thanks,
-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

Craig wrote:
 The old hard drive will be 4 wide x 6 long x 1 high.

Amazing that hard drives are so large... still.
I have a pcmia hard drive exhibit that someone gave me as they were
working on the drive design and it was non functional - this was from
15 years ago.  Lexan back cover to see the platters and heads in
single height pcmia slot confiuration.  Since they were making these
that long ago, it seems to me that that should be the format these
days, this long in the future.  Perhaps progress and technology does
not move as fast as we think.  One story I heard today on the radio
was indicating that FBI offices are not connected to the internet -
they need to go to the library to search online.  I guess that is a
good thing, what with the idiots that take a laptop with them
containing personal info on 20k persons - typical insco fiasco,
doctors office fiasco, IRS fiasco - that we all hear on the news.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON

SATA?  Where/how do I confirm?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Tim C bb...@crone.us

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer


Standard form factor is advantageous for the commoditization of cases, 
power supplies, etc.  The real capacity per volume is in MicroSD and the 
like.


Craig, I'd guessed Wilton's new machine to be SATA only?

Thanks,
-Tim

-Original Message-
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

Craig wrote:

The old hard drive will be 4 wide x 6 long x 1 high.


Amazing that hard drives are so large... still.
I have a pcmia hard drive exhibit that someone gave me as they were
working on the drive design and it was non functional - this was from
15 years ago.  Lexan back cover to see the platters and heads in
single height pcmia slot confiuration.  Since they were making these
that long ago, it seems to me that that should be the format these
days, this long in the future.  Perhaps progress and technology does
not move as fast as we think.  One story I heard today on the radio
was indicating that FBI offices are not connected to the internet -
they need to go to the library to search online.  I guess that is a
good thing, what with the idiots that take a laptop with them
containing personal info on 20k persons - typical insco fiasco,
doctors office fiasco, IRS fiasco - that we all hear on the news.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
Tim C bb...@crone.us writes:

 Standard form factor is advantageous for the commoditization of cases,
 power supplies, etc.  The real capacity per volume is in MicroSD and
 the like.

I think mechanical hard drives will be obsolete soon.  Solid state will
be the norm soon, as soon as costs drop a little more.  Lower power,
much faster access.  Don't know what the form factors are.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:11:05 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:

 Craig wrote:
  The old hard drive will be 4 wide x 6 long x 1 high.
 
 Amazing that hard drives are so large... still.

That's the standard desktop size. There are disks that are smaller, like
laptop disks, which are 2.75 x 3.5 x 0.4, and even 1 and smaller disks.
They do have correspondingly less performance.


 I have a pcmia hard drive exhibit that someone gave me as they were
 working on the drive design and it was non functional - this was from
 15 years ago.  Lexan back cover to see the platters and heads in
 single height pcmia slot confiuration.  Since they were making these
 that long ago, it seems to me that that should be the format these
 days, this long in the future.  Perhaps progress and technology does
 not move as fast as we think. 

Well, it's a matter of acceptance by the purchasers and their willingness
to try yet one more different type of technology. Something may be just
great, but if you can't profitably sell it, it will fade away. Like Beta
versus VHS.


 One story I heard today on the radio was indicating that FBI offices are
 not connected to the internet - they need to go to the library to search
 online.  I guess that is a good thing, what with the idiots that take a
 laptop with them containing personal info on 20k persons - typical insco
 fiasco, doctors office fiasco, IRS fiasco - that we all hear on the
 news.

That sounds like a good idea.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: lizards and crickets

2009-04-11 Thread Allan Streib
Anyone have lizards as pets?  My oldest has a bearded dragon, which he
got a few months ago.  We just recently took in another from an owner
who no longer wanted it.

Their diet includes insects, typically crickets.  I can order them
on-line in quantities of 500 for a fraction of the price of buying them
individually at the local pet store.

But it only makes sense if they live long enough for the two lizards to
consume them all.  Probably at least 5 weeks.  Is it possible to keep
crickets alive that long?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:21:43 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

 Standard form factor is advantageous for the commoditization of cases,
 power supplies, etc.  The real capacity per volume is in MicroSD and the
 like.
 
 Craig, I'd guessed Wilton's new machine to be SATA only?

You're right, it may be SATA only. Then again, it may have one IDE port
for a CD-ROM drive or something like that.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:28:41 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 SATA?  Where/how do I confirm?

An IDE or Parallel ATA (PATA) cable is shown at
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA00421
The cable and its connector are about 2 wide


A Serial ATA (SATA) cable is shown at
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3457204
The cable is about 1/2 wide and the connector is about 3/4 wide.


You can tell them apart by looking at them. The IDE connector is a
rectangle with two rows of 20 pins in the center.

Craig

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[MBZ] 190D fuel filter change

2009-04-11 Thread Zoltan Finks
Since our 87 190D sometimes will not get over 20 mph up a steep hill, I am
finally going to change the fuel filter and hope thats the problem.
So it looks like I have to remove the two bolts to the left of the filter
that fasten that bracket down? I am assuming its just a bracket.

Otherwise I dont see how the filter can be loosened and removed.

Any pitfalls to avoid?

On this W201, I just crank the starter til system is purged?

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Digital camera

2009-04-11 Thread Rick Knoble

From: Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:54 PM


Script?

Please explain


A short program written in the language of shell commands in Linux.

Does that explain enough?


A. Linux. Yup. Explains it all. VISTA just crashed on my laptop. I think 
it needs to be Linuxed.


Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
One of my mom's friends was driving an old Chevy Nova (the Toyota one) that she 
hated. Her husband is a tightwad and didn't want to get a new car so one day 
she drove home from work with the clutch pedal halfway down... If that wasn't 
bad enough two tires managed to pick up nails and a rock got thrown up by a 
truck and cracked the windshields front and rear...

She got a new car...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:13:51 -0500
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] top loading washer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I doubt that anything was going to stop the problems with the old washer
until Regina got the new one she wanted! At least they are less expensive
than new cars!

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Mitch wrote:
  So, did you fix the old washer, or replace the wrong part?

 Did the fix stop the torn garments problem?
 mao


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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel filter change

2009-04-11 Thread Zoltan Finks
Actually I found my W201 CD service manual and boy it is simply stated
there. Just remove the bolt in the center. And it does say the system is
self-purging.
Looks like the biggest challenge may be getting at the hose clamp for the
little plastic inline filter.

For some reason, though, the filter I got from Rusty seems to have a
different part number (KC 63/1) than the one on the car (which seems to end
in a 3 ). Both old and new are Mahle. hmmm.

Brian

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Since our 87 190D sometimes will not get over 20 mph up a steep hill, I am
 finally going to change the fuel filter and hope thats the problem.
 So it looks like I have to remove the two bolts to the left of the filter
 that fasten that bracket down? I am assuming its just a bracket.

 Otherwise I dont see how the filter can be loosened and removed.

 Any pitfalls to avoid?

 On this W201, I just crank the starter til system is purged?

 Brian

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[MBZ] Linux [was: Re: OT: Digital camera]

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:24:36 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 From: Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:54 PM
 
  Script?
 
  Please explain
 
  A short program written in the language of shell commands in Linux.
 
  Does that explain enough?
 
 A. Linux. Yup. Explains it all. VISTA just crashed on my laptop. I
 think it needs to be Linuxed.

As I saw years ago,

 The application said I needed Windows 98 or better,
 so I installed Linux.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
Craig has overstated the size, its actually 3 wide, maybe 4 1/2 long and 3/4 
thick. Laptop drives are 3/4 that size but 2x the money.
Ipod drives are the size of your thumb but 4x the money. Its all about how much 
it costs to make things small.

There are companies marketing flash memory drives for video production (because 
they're fast and reliable since theres no moving parts) but the price per gig 
is still 4x conventional spindle drives.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:11:05 -0500
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Craig wrote:
 The old hard drive will be 4 wide x 6 long x 1 high.

Amazing that hard drives are so large... still.
I have a pcmia hard drive exhibit that someone gave me as they were
working on the drive design and it was non functional - this was from
15 years ago.  Lexan back cover to see the platters and heads in
single height pcmia slot confiuration.  Since they were making these
that long ago, it seems to me that that should be the format these
days, this long in the future.  Perhaps progress and technology does
not move as fast as we think.  One story I heard today on the radio
was indicating that FBI offices are not connected to the internet -
they need to go to the library to search online.  I guess that is a
good thing, what with the idiots that take a laptop with them
containing personal info on 20k persons - typical insco fiasco,
doctors office fiasco, IRS fiasco - that we all hear on the news.
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Curt Raymond
Soon is a relative term... I think we'll be using solid state memory soon but 
I'd guess soon is in the 3-5 year territory, more toward 5 years than 3.

The problem is that conventional spindle based storage is way cheaper per 
gigabyte than any other storage out there. So yeah solid state storage has some 
advantages low power useage and whatnot but its generally slow and flash type 
has a limited life cycle

-Curt

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:32:09 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Tim C bb...@crone.us writes:

 Standard form factor is advantageous for the commoditization of cases,
 power supplies, etc.  The real capacity per volume is in MicroSD and
 the like.

I think mechanical hard drives will be obsolete soon.  Solid state will
be the norm soon, as soon as costs drop a little more.  Lower power,
much faster access.  Don't know what the form factors are.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Early and late 124 interior parts interchangeability

2009-04-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:54:00 -0700 Alex Chamberlain
 apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anybody know if there are any gotchas associated with swapping
 interiors (seats, door panels, etc) from a '94-'95 facelift 124 into
 an earlier car ('87)?  They look virtually the same to me, except for
 the extra wood that was added in '90 or '91.  Will the power seat
 wiring just plug right in?  Interior door handles, etc. in the same
 place so the panel can just fit over the old hardware?  Guy on local
 CL has a '94 E420 parts car with complete leather interior that I
 would LOVE to snap up and transplant into my 300D.

 If the car is white, I'd be interested in some of the exterior parts, like
 the front under-bumper air dams and a right front turn signal/marker
 assembly.

It is silver, so no luck on the airdams, but shouldn't the corner
light assembly be the same regardless of color?  Seller says the car
was hit in the front hard enough to deploy the airbags, but I will see
if the corner light survived.

Alex

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[MBZ] QRe: Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread LarryT

Hi Tim -
Thx but no thx - it sounds too complicated for no improvement in 
performance.  You didn't mention if it would improve security but I doubt 
it,.


You're right about the configuration - presently the Ext HD is shown as a 
drive in the desktop.   And when on the desktop I see it like that - it 
shows the 2 HDs in the puter and the 3rd as C, D, E  F and H as the ext.  I 
use software called Network Magic which makes things nuch easier to set  up. 
I had tried unsuccessfuly to set up the LAN so I could print (printer hooked 
to desktop) with the laptop - followed the instructions but still it said 
No!  But NM configured it perfectly.  Until my new laptop added Vista to the 
mess.  But that too can be fixed. once I get rid of Vista and install XP 
again.


Thx agn

Take care --
LarryT
91 300D

- Original message --
From: Tim C bb...@crone.us
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Ext HDD, was RE: OT -new computer


The networked storage will seem faster than USB on the laptop but probably 
not the desktop, if I'm reading your setup correctly. (USB always on 
desktop, laptop uses networked file sharing from desktop?)


You're talking about something more complicated than USB to ethernet, you 
need a USB host (like a computer) for that to work.  There are widgets 
that allow you to put a SATA or IDE drive on an ethernet network - 
sometimes they double as routers - but they aren't particularly cheap, at 
least compared to USB versions.  Consumer models typically run small Linux 
distros and appear to attached machines as Windows file shares, at least.


I can dig up a couple of product links if you still want to go this route.

Best,
-Tim

-Original Message-
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

While we're talking about computers I thought I'd ask about this - I have 
a

500gb Ext Hard Drive and presently it's attached to my desktop with a USB
cable.  I have a LAN with the Desktop, a Laptop in an adjoining room and a
printer attached to the desktop.   The cable modem is attached to the 
router

the to the desktop and laptop -

I was thinking the Ext HD might perform better if attached to router - - 
is

that correct?  I'll need a cable converter to switch from USB to Ethernet
but those are easy to get.  Would it run faster?  Be more secure?  Make no
difference?

I'd better not start talking about the things I dislike about Vista - and
how difficult they make it to go back to XP =

Thx -
LarryT

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer



WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


Well, I HAVE been wrestling with the problem of transfering info from
the old Win 98 computer to the new Win Vista computer.  All of the
instructions with the new one say, Use Windows Easy Transfer (WET),
and for Win 98, Install WET on the '98 computer by installing program
with disc or download from microsoft. com.


Maybe you can just move the hard drive from the Win98 machine and
install it on the Vista machine as a 2nd hard drive?  Then you can just
copy what you need from the old drive to the new.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: lizards and crickets

2009-04-11 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote:
 Is it possible to keep
 crickets alive that long?

They might just slow down if you keep them refrigerated?
Can you freeze crickets and thaw them to life again?
Start your own cricket farm outside?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON

So, you're talking about the cables inside the NEW computer?

Wilton

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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:28:41 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


SATA?  Where/how do I confirm?


An IDE or Parallel ATA (PATA) cable is shown at
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA00421
The cable and its connector are about 2 wide


A Serial ATA (SATA) cable is shown at
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3457204
The cable is about 1/2 wide and the connector is about 3/4 wide.


You can tell them apart by looking at them. The IDE connector is a
rectangle with two rows of 20 pins in the center.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: lizards and crickets

2009-04-11 Thread Archer
From: Allan Streib 
Anyone have lizards as pets?  My oldest has a bearded dragon, which he

got a few months ago.  We just recently took in another from an owner
who no longer wanted it.

Their diet includes insects, typically crickets.  I can order them
on-line in quantities of 500 for a fraction of the price of buying them
individually at the local pet store.

But it only makes sense if they live long enough for the two lizards to
consume them all.  Probably at least 5 weeks.  Is it possible to keep
crickets alive that long?
Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel filter change

2009-04-11 Thread Zoltan Finks
Success! Got engine to over 3000 rpm for first time in a while.
Forgot that when first trying to start it after filter change, I can give it
some accelerator once it starts to catch. Went through a lot of cranking,
but had it jumping from the 240.

Yipeee!

Brian

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Actually I found my W201 CD service manual and boy it is simply stated
 there. Just remove the bolt in the center. And it does say the system is
 self-purging.
 Looks like the biggest challenge may be getting at the hose clamp for the
 little plastic inline filter.

 For some reason, though, the filter I got from Rusty seems to have a
 different part number (KC 63/1) than the one on the car (which seems to end
 in a 3 ). Both old and new are Mahle. hmmm.

 Brian

 On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Since our 87 190D sometimes will not get over 20 mph up a steep hill, I
 am finally going to change the fuel filter and hope thats the problem.
 So it looks like I have to remove the two bolts to the left of the filter
 that fasten that bracket down? I am assuming its just a bracket.

 Otherwise I dont see how the filter can be loosened and removed.

 Any pitfalls to avoid?

 On this W201, I just crank the starter til system is purged?

 Brian



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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread WILTON
If I were to install my old HD in the new new computer or attach it to the 
new one as an ext HD, at what point does it cease to be a Win 98 unit?  When 
I disconnect it from old computer, when I connect it to new Vista computer 
or when I format it in the new computer?


Wilton

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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:21:43 -0400 Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:


Standard form factor is advantageous for the commoditization of cases,
power supplies, etc.  The real capacity per volume is in MicroSD and the
like.

Craig, I'd guessed Wilton's new machine to be SATA only?


You're right, it may be SATA only. Then again, it may have one IDE port
for a CD-ROM drive or something like that.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Jim Cathey

I think mechanical hard drives will be obsolete soon.  Solid state will
be the norm soon, as soon as costs drop a little more.  Lower power,
much faster access.  Don't know what the form factors are.


They've been saying that for something like 20 years, since
non-rotating mass storage was first made.  (Bubble memory?)
The thing is, the rotating media guys just don't give up and
go away, they've managed to stay well ahead of the cost curve
of solid-state storage on a per-byte basis, for normal usage.

Magnetic storage absolutely kills flash memory on a number
of rewrites basis.  Effectively unlimited writes versus 10^5
for NOR flash, or as bad as 10^3 (?) for NAND.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Jim Cathey
If I were to install my old HD in the new new computer or attach it to 
the new one as an ext HD, at what point does it cease to be a Win 98 
unit?  When I disconnect it from old computer, when I connect it to 
new Vista computer or when I format it in the new computer?


As soon as you change anything that 98 needs in order to run.
Either directly, or indirectly.  (Perhaps Vist[ul]a has 98-destroying
automount seek-and-destroy wizard?)  Certainly a reformat counts
as 'change'.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the old washer is fixed, works just fine, but its not a new fancy front 
loader.


Mitch Haley wrote:

So, did you fix the old washer, or replace the wrong part?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

had not torn anything yet, but was too soon to tell

Mountain Man wrote:

Mitch wrote:

So, did you fix the old washer, or replace the wrong part?


Did the fix stop the torn garments problem?
mao

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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] camera downloads

2009-04-11 Thread Greg Fiorentino
IMO the easiest and most convenient system is to have a SD card USB thumb
drive adapter.  I bought a cheap SD card from Amazon and it came with a free
thingy that you slide the SD card into and it becomes a USB thumb drive.  It
works great, needs no cable and is terrific for when you visit people and
want to share photos with them.

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300DT (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics

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 ...Our Nikon 775 (and my Nikon 4300 at work) are the same: connect it up 
 and
 it looks like a USB disk. Move the files off the memory card onto a hard
 disk, umount the camera, and you're set. I have a script, aptly named
 getphoto that does it all
 
As does my Olympus C5050. A desktop icon to click on.

RLE



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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel filter change

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have never had to remove any bracket to replace a fuel filter on a 
190D, it just screws off and comes right out.  I think I have the same 
problem on my 85, sometimes it seems like it really looses power, then 
all the sudden seems fine.  I think my tank screen is plugging up.


Zoltan Finks wrote:

Since our 87 190D sometimes will not get over 20 mph up a steep hill, I am
finally going to change the fuel filter and hope thats the problem.
So it looks like I have to remove the two bolts to the left of the filter
that fasten that bracket down? I am assuming its just a bracket.

Otherwise I dont see how the filter can be loosened and removed.

Any pitfalls to avoid?

On this W201, I just crank the starter til system is purged?

Brian
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[MBZ] [Fwd: Check out YouTube - Mercedes-Benz 190D 300TD 24v AMG (Dieselboost) Vid2]

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin






Click here: YouTube - Mercedes-Benz 190D 300TD 24v AMG (Dieselboost)
Vid2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gVUwDJ1QyYNR=1


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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel filter change

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:03:21 -0700 Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Success! Got engine to over 3000 rpm for first time in a while.
 Forgot that when first trying to start it after filter change, I can
 give it some accelerator once it starts to catch. Went through a lot of
 cranking, but had it jumping from the 240.
 
 Yipeee!

Congratulations! I can hear your excitement all the way to Los Alamos.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Craig has overstated the size, its actually 3 wide, maybe 4 1/2 long
 and 3/4 thick.

I just measured the disk on my shelf, and you're partially right. The disk
is actually 4 wide, 5-3/4 long, and 1 thick. Really.


 There are companies marketing flash memory drives for video production
 (because they're fast and reliable since theres no moving parts) but the
 price per gig is still 4x conventional spindle drives.

Have they overcome the limited number of writes to a particular location
(IIRC, something like 100,000)?


Craig

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[MBZ] 2.5 turbo V E300 radiator

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Anybody ever tried to see if a radiator out of a 124 2.5 turbo will fit 
in a 95 E300?  I know the EPC lists a different part number, and I am 
going to put them side by side to compare, but Im just wondering what 
differences, if any, there is between the 2. Or for that matter, from a 
87 300D.

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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] 190D fuel filter change

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I need to get out your way again except be able to spend more time next 
time.


Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:03:21 -0700 Zoltan Finks msuchpo...@gmail.com
wrote:


Success! Got engine to over 3000 rpm for first time in a while.
Forgot that when first trying to start it after filter change, I can
give it some accelerator once it starts to catch. Went through a lot of
cranking, but had it jumping from the 240.

Yipeee!


Congratulations! I can hear your excitement all the way to Los Alamos.


Craig

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 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:18:09 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 So, you're talking about the cables inside the NEW computer?

Both, actually. The old one will most likely have IDE; the new one will
most likely have SATA. If the new one also has an empty IDE connector into
which to plug the disk from the old computer, you're in like Flynn.


Craig

 
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 Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT -new computer
 
 
  On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:28:41 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  
  SATA?  Where/how do I confirm?
  
  An IDE or Parallel ATA (PATA) cable is shown at
  http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA00421
  The cable and its connector are about 2 wide
  
  
  A Serial ATA (SATA) cable is shown at
  http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=3457204
  The cable is about 1/2 wide and the connector is about 3/4 wide.
  
  
  You can tell them apart by looking at them. The IDE connector is a
  rectangle with two rows of 20 pins in the center.
  
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:28:33 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 the old washer is fixed, works just fine, but its not a new fancy front 
 loader.

Well, now you can sell the old one to someone who needs it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, speaking of which, I wonder how much these things sell for? Its 
about a 8 year old maytag, still looks like new.


Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:28:33 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.net wrote:

the old washer is fixed, works just fine, but its not a new fancy front 
loader.


Well, now you can sell the old one to someone who needs it.


Craig

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