Re: [MBZ] Adsit

[andrew strasfogel]

OTOH, there are a few MBCA members who have no affection for  Mr. Murphy.

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 I have never heard a good word for Adsit.  George Murphy does not like them
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 I purchased a heater fan motor new from them several years ago; it came
 without the squirrel cage fan.  It is almost impossible to transfer that fan
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Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel

[andrew strasfogel]

Got an 800 number for Metric Motors?

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 Curt -
 I didn't see your first post. The gold standard in rebuilds is Metric
 Motors
 but gold ain't cheap. Their price for a 617 head is $530.

 Barry


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Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel

[andrew strasfogel]

What's the labor to R/R the head?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:06 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Got an 800 number for Metric Motors?


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 Curt -
 I didn't see your first post. The gold standard in rebuilds is Metric
 Motors
 but gold ain't cheap. Their price for a 617 head is $530.

 Barry


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[andrew strasfogel]

My SWMBO loves her red Smart

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote:

 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:16:32 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 
  - Original Message -
  From: Larry Jinnette
  Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:59 PM
  Subject: Smart cars
 
 
  The small smart cars are here!

 Someone here in Los Alamos has one for sale on the County's U-Sell-It used
 car lot.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Repowering a lawn mower

[Mitch Haley]

Craig McCluskey wrote:


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4VB27$193.00
Brand  	 BRIGGS  STRATTON  	 
Mfr. Model # 	123K02-0515-E1

Quantum Gasoline Engine, 4 Cycle, 6.5 HP, Engine RPM 3100, Shaft
Orientation Vertical, Fuel Tank Capacity 1.6 Qt, PTO Shaft Dia 7/8 In, PTO
Shaft Length 3 3/16 In, PTO Shaft Configuration WK  Keyway, Rotation CCW,
Mower Application, Overall Width Facing PTO 12.90 In, Overall Height
Facing PTO 9.75 In, Overall Depth Facing PTO 11.76 In, Pleated Paper Air
Filter, Ignition Type Electronic, Low tone Muffler, Recoil Start, Single
Cylinder



Now I know why my Briggs Quantum push mower sounds like the governor is set too 
slow. 3100RPM? I could swear my Quantum manual says 3600, but it sounds like 
3000 or less when running full throttle.


Curt's job will get to be real difficult if the shaft diameter isn't the same as 
the original, or if the shaft length isn't close.


If that Briggs motor really does make 6.5hp at 3100rpm with no exhaust or air 
filter, then with some port work, a header, and an increase in rpm it might do 
8-9hp. OTOH, if it's spec'd at 3100 rpm, it might have plastic cam lobes and 
weak valve springs that would let the valves float before 3600rpm.


What kind of engine is on the Snapper now, and what parts can't you find?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Donald Snook]

Larry T. wrote:
I've always been a fan of the Crown Vic.  Big car, lots  of room and
great V8.  I'd look carefully at the AT and check how it was serviced.

This one I am buying is a 1997 Mercury Grand Marquis with only 70,000 miles.  
Its an old man car and in typical old guy fashion, it is spotless.  I am 
excited to get it.  I have wanted a Crown Vic/Grand Marquis for a long time.


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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Donald Snook]

   Larry T. wrote: Question - MB (and others manufacturers of very expensve 
cars) make cars
that we later find have serious flaws.  Like the biodegradable wiring
harness in W140s, the rod bender Diesel 140, etc.  Porsche has had probems
also - rear main seal leaks, clutch problems, etc. Yet I don't recall the Ford 
V8 having built in problems.  Is that
something to do with the manufactuing scale of a giant like Ford and
relatively small fry like MB and Porsche? I guess I'm wondering why MB builds a 
$50k+  sedan ($80K+ in the case of
a W140) and it's not perfect in every way?  Same for Porsche - $80K + and
they end up with problems that their road tests and dyno tests should have
located. Perhaps Ford has major problems but they are relatively cheap to fix 
and
thus we don't hard about them?

Its funny that you mention that because I am learning that the 1996-2001 Crown 
vic/Grand Marquis did have a problem that came from the factory. It is not a 
huge deal, but they have a plastic intake gasket that fails around 60-100K 
miles.  There was a lawsuit over it and Ford settled by extending a service 
agreement (warranty) to refund the cost of repair or perform the repair free of 
charge for 7 years and 80,000 miles.

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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[Donald Snook]

Tyler wrote: I really doubt that even paying a shop to
maintain an 80s diesel Benz like an aircraft and keep it in perpetual
new condition, would cost as much as the payments on the cheapest of new
cars. And a well maintained older Benz only has maintenance costs- it
will resell for it's purchase price.

Unfortunately, people don't think that way - except for all of us on this list 
and the few other folks that have actually figured out, it is a LOT cheaper to 
drive old cheap cars, then it is to drive new cars under warranty.  Most people 
don't think about how much maintenance, care, improvement they could do with 
the same $200-400 they spend on a monthly payment.  I think for most cars, the 
point at which it doesn't make sense to keep maintaining an old car is one 
single repair exceeds the total value of the car.  Now, there are certainly 
exceptions.  I can see someone putting a $2500 transmission into a $2000 old 
Mercedes if the rest of the car is in really good shape and they are reasonably 
sure to drive the car long enough to justify the transmission cost.


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Re: [MBZ] Adsit

[Bob Rentfro]

Steer clear of Adsit. They are horrible. Too many examples over the years.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[Donald Snook]

MAO wrote: I'm your daddy - I'm the old dude.
I'll pick you up at OHare tho, if you want.

Oh, I misinterpreted what you were saying.  Actually, I am flying into Midway. 
I don't get in until Friday night, so I am staying the night and then need to 
figure out how to get to the dealership in East Dundee.

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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[Donald Snook]

Jim wrote: It is not a big secret that that mindset is _how_ they got
to be wealthy in the first place.

That's right!  Read the Millionaire next door and you'll the absolute truth 
about that.

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Re: [MBZ] The Family Truckster

[Donald Snook]

Rich wrote: Wow, I have to go rent that movie now and watch it again, or maybe 
just
buy it.  I had totally forgotten.  It is the Wagon Queen! Awesome.

That is an awesome movie.  Definitely one to own.  You can watch it again and 
again!  I love the part where they visit Cousin Eddie in Kansas.  
Unfortunately, that hits home.  I have a brother in law who lives his life like 
Eddie.  I guess that makes me Clark Griswald!


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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Donald Snook]

Kaleb wrote: well geez, usually if you buy a car from out of town, the seller 
will either pick you up or meet you at the airport with the car.

That's what I thought, too.  They did say I could take two trains and they 
would pick me up at the Elgin Train Stop. Whereever that is.


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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Donald Snook]

Kaleb wrote: you would go all the way to chicago for a common crown vic?

Well, this one is a very good deal (in my opinion).  I saw it on ebay.  I 
didn't search out a car far away. But, it only has 70,000 miles, is in great 
shape and I everyone I have found within 200 miles of Wichita has twice as many 
miles or is $2000 more expensive.  (it's a grand Marquis also)


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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[Mitch Haley]

Tyler wrote: I really doubt that even paying a shop to
maintain an 80s diesel Benz like an aircraft and keep it in perpetual
new condition, would cost as much as the payments on the cheapest of new
cars. 


The issue there is that you have to start out with a MBZ in new condition, 
because it costs a fortune to resurrect a neglected one from the dead.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:


I am staying the night and then need to figure out how to get to the dealership 
in East Dundee.


Ask your salescritter to fetch you in the Marquis.
If that doesn't work, call back later and see if you get a different 
salescritter.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Rich Thomas]

Sounds like Planes Trains and Automobiles.

Here is the one you really want:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1249830232.html


   02 black crown vic 22s - $5000 (N. charleston)



02 crown vic $5000 obo new spark plugs, new igntion coil, brakes pads, 
and roaters.Might need lil paint job afta dis stupid ass bitch done 
scratch it up. holla at scooda843-834-5650.


I could goes check it out yo.

--R

Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote: well geez, usually if you buy a car from out of town, the seller will 
either pick you up or meet you at the airport with the car.

That's what I thought, too.  They did say I could take two trains and they 
would pick me up at the Elgin Train Stop. Whereever that is.


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse

[Jim Cathey]

Are these [radio  antenna] run by the same fuse?


Yes and no.  But if the radio doesn't come on the antenna
will not move either, so there's no surprise there.

Is it a factory Becker?  Aftermarket radios can have an
inline fuse tucked in behind the radio.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] This could be fun

[Rich Thomas]

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1248738987.html


   BMW crashed - $2495 (mt pleasant)


2000 BMW 323i, 145,000 MILES, WRECKED ON RIGHT FRONT CORNER
AS SHOWN IN PICTURE. CAN HEAR RUN BUT RADIATOR IS DEFINATELY
BUSTED. REBUILDABLE AS A CAR OR SOLD FOR PARTS. CLEAR TITLE
IN HAND BUT WAS CONSIDERED TOTALED BY INSURANCE COMPANY.
DAUGHTER WAS HAPPY DRIVING THIS CAR UP UNTIL LAST MONTH.
rebuildable with 3/4 right clip.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse

[Jim Cathey]

Are these [radio  antenna] run by the same fuse?


And, I suppose I could actually answer your question.
I went out and looked at the 1990 560 SEL, and its
antenna fuse is labeled as #15, the radio is #18.
(#19 is the right-hand fuse in the forward row, and
they count down from there as you go left.)  Your
car is probably the same, but no guarantees.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] OT Airbus System Upgrade

[Rich Thomas]

You can program it yourself!

http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKSF4ampClick=19209

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel

[Loren Faeth]

800 741 5252 ask for Rusty

At 06:06 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote:

Got an 800 number for Metric Motors?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Barry Stark barryst...@roadrunner.comwrote:

 Curt -
 I didn't see your first post. The gold standard in rebuilds is Metric
 Motors
 but gold ain't cheap. Their price for a 617 head is $530.

 Barry


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Sedan Seats

[Douglas]

What color are they?

Douglas

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Subject: [MBZ] W123 Sedan Seats


Someone gave me some seats for a four door W123. They are in okay shape. I
have no use for them. If anyone in the Chicagoland area needs them, I'd 
like

to give them to a good home.

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT


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Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel

[Curt Raymond]

Did you call Rusty yet? Have you tried your local mechanic yet and see if he 
knows a machine shop? It can't be that hard to get an s123 head that needs 
rebuilding...

-Curt


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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WHo else can I turn to?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Have you actually bought something from them?
 Is their customer service responsive or the salesguy? I've read a ton of
 posts complaining about their customer service.
 When one company is much cheaper than everybody else theres usually a
 reason behind it...

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Repowering a lawn mower

[Curt Raymond]

Fair enough, I suppose it would either negatively impact the seating 
arrangement or rear weight distribution... ;)

As to those two engines, the former is too small (I've got an 8hp now) and the 
latter is more expensive than the 11hp Honda alternative...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:32:20 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Repowering a lawn mower
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: 20090701213220.1c337c70.diese...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I probably should have mentioned that the problem is that its a vertical
 shaft motor and most of the less expensive motors are horizontal
 shaft... A 601 would look probably look funny standing straight up.
 Might effect performance too.

You could couple it to a differential with only one axle shaft ...


But there is also


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4VB27    $193.00
Brand   BRIGGS  STRATTON   
Mfr. Model #     123K02-0515-E1
Quantum Gasoline Engine, 4 Cycle, 6.5 HP, Engine RPM 3100, Shaft
Orientation Vertical, Fuel Tank Capacity 1.6 Qt, PTO Shaft Dia 7/8 In, PTO
Shaft Length 3 3/16 In, PTO Shaft Configuration WK  Keyway, Rotation CCW,
Mower Application, Overall Width Facing PTO 12.90 In, Overall Height
Facing PTO 9.75 In, Overall Depth Facing PTO 11.76 In, Pleated Paper Air
Filter, Ignition Type Electronic, Low tone Muffler, Recoil Start, Single
Cylinder


and,


http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1WVK4    $545.00
Brand   BRIGGS  STRATTON   
Mfr. Model #     31C707-0026-G1
Gasoline Engine, 4 Cycle, 17 HP, 3300 Engine RPM, Vertical Shaft
Orientation, Electric Starter Type, Electronic Ignition Type, Cast Iron
Cylinders, Muffler, Dual Element Air Cleaner Type, CCW Rotation, Riding
Mower Application, Overall Height 12.90 In, Overall Width 16.06 In,
Overall Depth 12.47 In, Shaft Length 3.60 In, Shaft Dia 1.00 In,
Keyed/Tapped Shaft Configuration, Shaft Key 1/4 In



Craig



  
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse

[WILTON]

Fuse box is likely same place mine is (91 350SDL) - under left rear corner 
of hood; directly in front of driver.  Likely fuse # 2; check placard on 
inside of fuse box cover for what else is powered via fuse 2.  Auto antenna 
gets signal from radio to extend/retract.  Antenna may not work 'cause it 
gets no signal from  dead radio.  Though my antenna gets signal from radio 
and fuse 2, its power for extension/retraction is via fuse 15; yours may be 
slightly different; I'll try to look it up this afternoon.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse


It's time to get my 300SD prepped to sell it, and it simply has to have a 
working radio.  Right now, the radio doesn't come on, and the power 
antenna motor isn't working either.  My questions are:


Are these run by the same fuse?
Can anyone give me the exact location in the fuse box for the fuse/fuses 
involved?  I no longer have a competent helper to assist me since my dad's 
health has gone downhill.  Also, he was the primary driver, so it sits 
more than 90% of the time.  I'm hoping to get $1500 out of it if anyone's 
interested.  It needs an AC compressor and a vac lock pump.  It does have 
a new lower passenger's side ball joint and front pads.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula, in search of a new owner
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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[WILTON]

'Must be something else I'm doing wrong - 'haven't bought a new car in 30 
years   'Still waiting for the wealth.  ;)))


Wilton

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From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts



Jim wrote: It is not a big secret that that mindset is _how_ they got
to be wealthy in the first place.

That's right!  Read the Millionaire next door and you'll the absolute 
truth about that.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Repowering a lawn mower

[Curt Raymond]

Right now? Nothing... Out in the yard is a totally clapped out (zero 
compression) 1967 Briggs 8hp. No rebuild parts are available and while I could 
pull the piston and measure it I bought a parts machine instead. The parts 
machine has a Tecumseh TVXL 195, about '88 vintage I think. It needs a carb 
rebuild which I bought a kit for yesterday and will install this afternoon. The 
only worry right now is that I took the carb apart last fall and may have lost 
a governor spring...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:36:54 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Repowering a lawn mower
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Craig McCluskey wrote:

 http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4VB27    $193.00
 Brand   BRIGGS  STRATTON   
 Mfr. Model #     123K02-0515-E1
 Quantum Gasoline Engine, 4 Cycle, 6.5 HP, Engine RPM 3100, Shaft
 Orientation Vertical, Fuel Tank Capacity 1.6 Qt, PTO Shaft Dia 7/8 In, PTO
 Shaft Length 3 3/16 In, PTO Shaft Configuration WK  Keyway, Rotation CCW,
 Mower Application, Overall Width Facing PTO 12.90 In, Overall Height
 Facing PTO 9.75 In, Overall Depth Facing PTO 11.76 In, Pleated Paper Air
 Filter, Ignition Type Electronic, Low tone Muffler, Recoil Start, Single
 Cylinder


Now I know why my Briggs Quantum push mower sounds like the governor is set too 
slow. 3100RPM? I could swear my Quantum manual says 3600, but it sounds like 
3000 or less when running full throttle.

Curt's job will get to be real difficult if the shaft diameter isn't the same 
as 
the original, or if the shaft length isn't close.

If that Briggs motor really does make 6.5hp at 3100rpm with no exhaust or air 
filter, then with some port work, a header, and an increase in rpm it might do 
8-9hp. OTOH, if it's spec'd at 3100 rpm, it might have plastic cam lobes and 
weak valve springs that would let the valves float before 3600rpm.

What kind of engine is on the Snapper now, and what parts can't you find?

Mitch.


  
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[MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Donald Snook]

Well, I have playing phone and email tag with the dealership on this 1997 Grand 
Marquis.  The guy and I worked out a price yesterday, but I didn't put the 
deposit down yet.  Its still on ebay, but I called and left a message with one 
of the other salesman that we had come to a deal and that the guy I have been 
dealing with should call me back when he gets in, so I can give them the 
deposit.   I sure hope they don't try something stupid like tell me they 
already sold it or try to back out of the deal.  I already have my plane ticket 
to Chicago for this weekend!

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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Loren Faeth]

Wow, I wouldn't want to be the guy who snookered Snook Re: Snookmobile

At 10:00 AM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
Well, I have playing phone and email tag with the dealership on this 
1997 Grand Marquis.  The guy and I worked out a price yesterday, but 
I didn't put the deposit down yet.  Its still on ebay, but I called 
and left a message with one of the other salesman that we had come 
to a deal and that the guy I have been dealing with should call me 
back when he gets in, so I can give them the deposit.   I sure hope 
they don't try something stupid like tell me they already sold it or 
try to back out of the deal.  I already have my plane ticket to 
Chicago for this weekend!


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[OK Don]

Which one? The The Smorsche?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote:

 On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:16:32 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


 Someone here in Los Alamos has one for sale on the County's U-Sell-It used
 car lot.



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Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts

[Curt Raymond]

Heck I've NEVER bought a new car. Bought 3 of the 5 I've owned for cash and 
that doesn't count having bought my 240D twice!

-Curt

Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:46:29 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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'Must be something else I'm doing wrong - 'haven't bought a new car in 30 
years   'Still waiting for the wealth.  ;)))

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cash for Clunkers thoughts


 Jim wrote: It is not a big secret that that mindset is _how_ they got
 to be wealthy in the first place.

 That's right!  Read the Millionaire next door and you'll the absolute 
 truth about that.

 Donald H. Snook


  
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[WILTON]

How 'bout a list survey?  Of the Smarts presented, which one do you like 
best?  ;)))


Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars



Which one? The The Smorsche?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Craig McCluskey 
diese...@pisquared.netwrote:



On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:16:32 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Someone here in Los Alamos has one for sale on the County's U-Sell-It 
used

car lot.




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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse

[kevin kraly]

Thanks, Jim.  I'll check it out.  I do believe that it's a factory Becker, 
but I'll have to check that too.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[Mitch Haley]

WILTON wrote:
How 'bout a list survey?  Of the Smarts presented, which one do you 
like best?  ;)))



Smayabusa wasn't mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE4kqBT8dWo

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[OK Don]

The Smorsche!

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:27 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 How 'bout a list survey?  Of the Smarts presented, which one do you like
 best?  ;)))

 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[Mitch Haley]

WILTON wrote:
How 'bout a list survey?  Of the Smarts presented, which one do you 
like best?  ;)))


Ain't these cute?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOgFPOG-fsYNR=1

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[MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[OK Don]

The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an MB, I'll have
to maintain it.

Which of teh GM, Frods, Japanese cars should be considered, or absolutely
avoided?

Kaleb - what's for sale now?

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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Donald Snook]

Loren wrote: Wow, I wouldn't want to be the guy who snookered Snook Re: 
Snookmobile

Ha Ha, Loren! That made me laugh! Well, all of the drama is over.  I spoke to 
the guy on the phone, put down a deposit and am ready to go! I arrive late 
Friday night and pick up the car Saturday morning!  Now, I just need to get a 
straw hat, some plaid pants, and pull my pants up too high and I will really 
fit in with Grand Marquis crowd!


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse

[WILTON]

I was wrong re. fuse for your radio.  According to MB CD wiring diag. for 83 
300SD, fuse 13 powers radio along with hazard lights, clock, and cent. lock 
sys.  Fuse 15 powers auto ant along with trunk light, pwr seats, warning 
sys, courtesy lights and alarm sys.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse


Fuse box is likely same place mine is (91 350SDL) - under left rear corner 
of hood; directly in front of driver.  Likely fuse # 2; check placard on 
inside of fuse box cover for what else is powered via fuse 2.  Auto 
antenna gets signal from radio to extend/retract.  Antenna may not work 
'cause it gets no signal from  dead radio.  Though my antenna gets signal 
from radio and fuse 2, its power for extension/retraction is via fuse 15; 
yours may be slightly different; I'll try to look it up this afternoon.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 1983 300SD radio fuse


It's time to get my 300SD prepped to sell it, and it simply has to have a 
working radio.  Right now, the radio doesn't come on, and the power 
antenna motor isn't working either.  My questions are:


Are these run by the same fuse?
Can anyone give me the exact location in the fuse box for the fuse/fuses 
involved?  I no longer have a competent helper to assist me since my 
dad's health has gone downhill.  Also, he was the primary driver, so it 
sits more than 90% of the time.  I'm hoping to get $1500 out of it if 
anyone's interested.  It needs an AC compressor and a vac lock pump.  It 
does have a new lower passenger's side ball joint and front pads.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula, in search of a new owner
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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Red Neck Bull Hauler]

[Mountain Man]

Kaleb wrote:
   Can you BULL-eve thisâEUR

My kinda guy - kudos to him.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an MB, I'll have
to maintain it.


Just get them a J-body (Cavalier, Sunfire) or N-body (Grand Am etc).
Everybody knows how to work on them, and salvage parts are everywhere.

There was a 2000 Alero 4 cylinder automatic one owner with 90k on it for $2600 
on the local Craigslist yesterday, but it's gone now.  Probably one of those two 
hour specials, like the $1700 '97 Z24 I found for a friend last year. We were 
test driving it 50 minutes after the ad appeared, and started counting out the 
cash at the end of the test run.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[WILTON]

Smamborghini

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars


How 'bout a list survey?  Of the Smarts presented, which one do you like 
best?  ;)))


Wilton

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From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars



Which one? The The Smorsche?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Craig McCluskey 
diese...@pisquared.netwrote:



On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:16:32 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Someone here in Los Alamos has one for sale on the County's U-Sell-It 
used

car lot.




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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Mountain Man]

Snook wrote:
 (it's a grand Marquis also)

I'll pick it up the night before I pick you up and you can drive home
from the airport.
I've never driven a grand Marquis - it should be fun for me to
maneuver the streets of ChiTown to pick you up / deliver your new
purchase ;-)
mao

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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Kevin]

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:12:55PM -0500, Mountain Man wrote:
 Snook wrote:
  (it's a grand Marquis also)
 
 I'll pick it up the night before I pick you up and you can drive home
 from the airport.
 I've never driven a grand Marquis - it should be fun for me to
 maneuver the streets of ChiTown to pick you up / deliver your new
 purchase ;-)

I've had a handful of crown vics/grand marquises. Grand Marquises are 
really hard to steer if you pass a bingo hall.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Smart cars

[Mountain Man]

andrew wrote:
 My SWMBO loves her red Smart

Careful there, this is not banned.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Rich Thomas]

It's summer, you need plaid short pants (belt and suspenders), striped 
shirt, black knee socks, and sandals, with a funny hat and those huge 
black shades that fit over your glasses.  Put on your left blinker, 
drive in the left lane at 50, and put it off before you change lanes.


--R

Donald Snook wrote:

Loren wrote: Wow, I wouldn't want to be the guy who snookered Snook Re: 
Snookmobile

Ha Ha, Loren! That made me laugh! Well, all of the drama is over.  I spoke to 
the guy on the phone, put down a deposit and am ready to go! I arrive late 
Friday night and pick up the car Saturday morning!  Now, I just need to get a 
straw hat, some plaid pants, and pull my pants up too high and I will really 
fit in with Grand Marquis crowd!


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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Rich Thomas]

Is this the de Sade version?

--R

Kevin wrote:

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:12:55PM -0500, Mountain Man wrote:
  

Snook wrote:


(it's a grand Marquis also)
  

I'll pick it up the night before I pick you up and you can drive home
from the airport.
I've never driven a grand Marquis - it should be fun for me to
maneuver the streets of ChiTown to pick you up / deliver your new
purchase ;-)



I've had a handful of crown vics/grand marquises. Grand Marquises are 
really hard to steer if you pass a bingo hall.


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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Kevin]

Hm. If so, might want to blacklight the interior of that car before you
buy it.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 03:39:20PM -0400, Rich Thomas wrote:
 Is this the de Sade version?

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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Great question!

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852
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Is this the de Sade version?

--R

Kevin wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 02:12:55PM -0500, Mountain Man wrote:
   
 Snook wrote:
 
 (it's a grand Marquis also)
   


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Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel

[andrew strasfogel]

Rusty does not carry them.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Did you call Rusty yet? Have you tried your local mechanic yet and see if
 he knows a machine shop? It can't be that hard to get an s123 head that
 needs rebuilding...

 -Curt


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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing a cylinder head on a W123 turbodiesel
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 WHo else can I turn to?

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Have you actually bought something from them?
  Is their customer service responsive or the salesguy? I've read a ton of
  posts complaining about their customer service.
  When one company is much cheaper than everybody else theres usually a
  reason behind it...
 
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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Loren Faeth]

Good!   It was supposed to be a funny.  Glad you didn't loose  your ticket!

At 01:46 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
Loren wrote: Wow, I wouldn't want to be the guy who snookered Snook 
Re: Snookmobile


Ha Ha, Loren! That made me laugh! Well, all of the drama is over.  I 
spoke to the guy on the phone, put down a deposit and am ready to 
go! I arrive late Friday night and pick up the car Saturday 
morning!  Now, I just need to get a straw hat, some plaid pants, and 
pull my pants up too high and I will really fit in with Grand Marquis crowd!



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[MBZ] What could this be?

[Rich Thomas]

Besides a POS.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1250559127.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[Donald Snook]

Ok Don wrote: The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an 
MB, I'll have
to maintain it. Which of teh GM, Frods, Japanese cars should be considered, or 
absolutely
avoided?

I happen to have a very nice 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville with only 124,000 
miles for under $3000.  It's a sweet car!

As far as cheap reliable cars from GM, I would suggest any of the W body cars 
with the 3800 engine or the 3.1L engines.  I would avoid the 2.4 liter engines 
in the smallest GM cars.  The W body cars are the Grand Prix, Monte Carlo, or 
Olds Cutlass Supreme.  The H body cars are also very reliable and some of 
them can be had very cheaply.  These are:  Buick LeSabre, Pontiac Bonneville, 
Oldsmobile 88.  NOW, there is one caveat to the 3800.  You need to buy one 
earlier than 96 and later than 2000.  The intervening years have a problem with 
the intake gasket.  It fails and you have to replace the upper and lower 
gaskets.  If that has already been done, then you are golden and those years 
are excellent.  I also really like the Oldsmobile Intrigue, but in that case, 
you want the 3.5L (shortstar) not the 3800 unless you get a 2001 or newer.  
The C body cars are the Oldsmobile 98, the Buick Park Avenue and the Cadillac 
Sedan Deville.  I don't really think you are going to buy a Cadillac, but if 
you are, DO NOT buy a 96-99 with the Northstar - they have serious headgasket 
and oil consumption problems that were not fixed until 2000).  The 91-95 Sedan 
Devilles had the 4.9L engine (trusty old pushrod). It was, in my opinion, the 
best engine Cadillac made.  Otherwise the Olds 98 (big Grandpa car) and the 
Park Avenue are very nice cars.

The Pontiac Grand Am isn't bad if you get the 6 cyl.

The only thing I know about Fords, is that you can find a used Taurus cheap.  
They made millions of them, so the prices are down and the parts are cheap.  
1998 was a body style change and engine improvement.  If you can go as new as 
2002-03, the 6 cyl engine was once again improved and the reliability is pretty 
high.

It is hard to go wrong with a Honda.  I prefer the Accords for size and resale 
value.  1990-92 was my favorite body style and they were very good cars. That 
is probably too old for what you want.  In 1996 or 97, Honda improved the 
timing belt, and gears/tensioners and the maintenance schedule was bumped up to 
105,000 miles.  So, that might be a good model year to start with.

I have heard good things about the Mazda 626 for several years.

Camry's are nice, but boring and they hold their resale value that they tend to 
look like crap, by the time they are cheap.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[Donald Snook]

Mitch wrote: Just get them a J-body (Cavalier, Sunfire) or N-body (Grand Am 
etc).
Everybody knows how to work on them, and salvage parts are everywhere.

I disagree with this if you get the 4 cyl.  They are crappy. Plus, they are too 
small and not safe. Step up to the Grand Prix.


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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Donald Snook]

Mao wrote: I'll pick it up the night before I pick you up and you can drive 
home
from the airport. I've never driven a grand Marquis - it should be fun for me to
maneuver the streets of ChiTown to pick you up / deliver your new
purchase.

If you are going to pick it up, you'll have to pay for it, too!


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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[OK Don]

Thanks! I know nothing about any thing other than a nandful of MBs.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 Ok Don wrote: The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's
 an MB, I'll have
 to maintain it. Which of teh GM, Frods, Japanese cars should be considered,
 or absolutely
 avoided?

 I happen to have a very nice 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville with only 124,000
 miles for under $3000.  It's a sweet car!

 As far as cheap reliable cars from GM, I would suggest any of the W body
 cars with the 3800 engine or the 3.1L engines.  I would avoid the 2.4 liter
 engines in the smallest GM cars.  The W body cars are the Grand Prix, Monte
 Carlo, or Olds Cutlass Supreme.  The H body cars are also very reliable
 and some of them can be had very cheaply.  These are:  Buick LeSabre,
 Pontiac Bonneville, Oldsmobile 88.  NOW, there is one caveat to the 3800.
  You need to buy one earlier than 96 and later than 2000.  The intervening
 years have a problem with the intake gasket.  It fails and you have to
 replace the upper and lower gaskets.  If that has already been done, then
 you are golden and those years are excellent.  I also really like the
 Oldsmobile Intrigue, but in that case, you want the 3.5L (shortstar) not
 the 3800 unless you get a 2001 or newer.  The C body cars are the
 Oldsmobile 98, the Buick Park Avenue and the Cadillac Sedan Deville.  I
 don't really think you are going to buy a Cadillac, but if you are, DO NOT
 buy a 96-99 with the Northstar - they have serious headgasket and oil
 consumption problems that were not fixed until 2000).  The 91-95 Sedan
 Devilles had the 4.9L engine (trusty old pushrod). It was, in my opinion,
 the best engine Cadillac made.  Otherwise the Olds 98 (big Grandpa car) and
 the Park Avenue are very nice cars.

 The Pontiac Grand Am isn't bad if you get the 6 cyl.

 The only thing I know about Fords, is that you can find a used Taurus
 cheap.  They made millions of them, so the prices are down and the parts are
 cheap.  1998 was a body style change and engine improvement.  If you can go
 as new as 2002-03, the 6 cyl engine was once again improved and the
 reliability is pretty high.

 It is hard to go wrong with a Honda.  I prefer the Accords for size and
 resale value.  1990-92 was my favorite body style and they were very good
 cars. That is probably too old for what you want.  In 1996 or 97, Honda
 improved the timing belt, and gears/tensioners and the maintenance schedule
 was bumped up to 105,000 miles.  So, that might be a good model year to
 start with.

 I have heard good things about the Mazda 626 for several years.

 Camry's are nice, but boring and they hold their resale value that they
 tend to look like crap, by the time they are cheap.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[tyler]

Volvo 245 non-turbo.

Tyler

OK Don wrote:

The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an MB, I'll have
to maintain it.

Which of teh GM, Frods, Japanese cars should be considered, or absolutely
avoided?

Kaleb - what's for sale now?

  


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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[OK Don]

How about the 850?
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/1245382290.html
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/1245015924.html
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1238586491.html
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1227123210.html
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 Volvo 245 non-turbo.

 Tyler


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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[tyler]

I'm not a fan of the 850. They're a lot more complicated/difficult to 
work on, and overall lacking the ridiculous over-engineered 
heavy-dutyness of the 200 and 700 series Volvos. They also cost 3-4 
times as much!


And FWD is no fun.

Tyler

OK Don wrote:

How about the 850?
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/1245382290.html
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/ctd/1245015924.html
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/1238586491.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:

Mitch wrote: Just get them a J-body (Cavalier, Sunfire) or N-body (Grand Am 
etc).
Everybody knows how to work on them, and salvage parts are everywhere.

I disagree with this if you get the 4 cyl.  


What's wrong with the 2.4L Twin Cam, other than the labor bill to replace a 
water pump? 150hp, easy to work on as long as you stay away from the timing 
chain and water pump...


My twenty year old memories of 2.8L V6 aren't fond ones, is the 3.1 that much 
better?


Mitch.

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[MBZ] 1979 300TD on CL

[Donald Snook]

http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1250723203.html

Not mine, no affiliation.

Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids

[Donald Snook]

http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1250338385.html

The price it too high. You can probably get them down.  Looks pretty nice.


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Re: [MBZ] What could this be?

[Thomas Savage]

Rich Thomas wrote:

Besides a POS.

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1250559127.html


My money is on a single-row-chain 380SEL with a body kit, all white, 
Miami Vice-style.  Extra points if it wears three Ronal Pentas and one 
bundt cake.


Tom

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Sedan Seats

[Rick Knoble]

From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com


What color are they.


Michael et. al. Seats are tan. They are in okay shape, NOT perfect. First 
come first serve is the fairest way, I suppose. Contact me off list.


Rick 



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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[Rick Knoble]

--
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com

The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an MB, I'll 
have

to maintain it.



Chevy Prizm. It has Toyota Corolla mechanicals. I own a 1999 that I bought 
for my kid and it has exceeded all of my expectations.


Rick 



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[MBZ] Headlight wipers

[WILTON]

'Trying to get headlight wiper blade holders (springy part of wiper blade) off 
my 91 350SDL to replace blades/rubber.  They look like they're held in place by 
spring clip on little vertical pin.  'Can't get 'em out so far; replaced the 
blades/rubber several years ago; 'thought it was easy then, and sure it's still 
easy now, of course.  Maybe I haven't pried/pulled hard enough; 'don't wanna 
break something.  Can somebody remind me how the blade holders are held on.

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[MBZ] OT: I hate small engines

[Curt Raymond]

Got the carb on my Tecumseh today, took me about 5 tries to get it on with all 
the linkages on and the fuel line hooked up right.
Gas poured out when I first fueled up, I hadn't gotten the nut on the bowl 
tight enough, its hard to tell. Tecumseh gives a torque spec but I don't have 
an inch pounds torque wrench. I did the old torque it 'till it stops leaking 
trick.

Now it'll start but won't idle. I can fiddle with the choke and throttle and 
keep it going but it spits and pops. After spending some time with the manual I 
think I've got an idle fuel passage thats plugged (imagine that!) but the 
bastard has a restriction rod in it that doesn't come out and its absolutely 
PACKED with crud... NO idea how I'm gonna clean that...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate small engines

[Loren Faeth]

Go down to FLAPS and buy a can of carb cleaner.  I soaked the 60 
years of crud off the International H carb, and found OE factory 
paint underneath.  A word to the wise,  after you are done, store the 
carb cleaner in a glass jar or antifreeze jug.  It eats through the tin can.


But I agree, small engines are a pain.  something like a chinee 
Diesel would be a better choice, or a Putter diesel, if  you can find 
one.  But those are all horiz. shaft as far as I know.


At 06:14 PM 7/2/2009, you wrote:
Got the carb on my Tecumseh today, took me about 5 tries to get it 
on with all the linkages on and the fuel line hooked up right.
Gas poured out when I first fueled up, I hadn't gotten the nut on 
the bowl tight enough, its hard to tell. Tecumseh gives a torque 
spec but I don't have an inch pounds torque wrench. I did the old 
torque it 'till it stops leaking trick.


Now it'll start but won't idle. I can fiddle with the choke and 
throttle and keep it going but it spits and pops. After spending 
some time with the manual I think I've got an idle fuel passage 
thats plugged (imagine that!) but the bastard has a restriction rod 
in it that doesn't come out and its absolutely PACKED with crud... 
NO idea how I'm gonna clean that...


-Curt




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[MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?

[Christopher McCann]

I have this up for sale: 200358468360 (ebay #). Retail is $2,079. No idea what 
they really go for.

I have another one (bit different 100-826-52-52) as well.

Someone is offering me $600 for both. 

Thoughts?

Thanks, Chris



1985 300SD 244K miles


  

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight wipers

[LWB250]

The wiper arms are held on by a nut that is underneath the cover.  You have to 
leave the blade/arm against the lamp and pry the cover up (towards the hinge 
and arm) to uncover the nut that holds the arm on the shaft.

The blade just snaps into the arm.

Dan


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Headlight wipers
 To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:05 PM
 'Trying to get headlight wiper blade
 holders (springy part of wiper blade) off my 91 350SDL to
 replace blades/rubber.  They look like they're held in
 place by spring clip on little vertical pin.  'Can't
 get 'em out so far; replaced the blades/rubber several years
 ago; 'thought it was easy then, and sure it's still easy
 now, of course.  Maybe I haven't pried/pulled hard
 enough; 'don't wanna break something.  Can somebody
 remind me how the blade holders are held on.
 
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Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?

[LWB250]

These are golden.  Anything for a W100 chassis is worth a small fortune - just 
look at the M100 Web site some time.  You know the secret handshake, don't you?

Hold out for the $800 BIN - I'm willing to bet you'll get it - someone is just 
trying to get a deal and assumes you don't know what they're worth.

Worst case scenario you can relist.

He who is patient makes the most money, IMHO.

Dan

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:30 PM
 
 I have this up for sale: 200358468360 (ebay #). Retail is
 $2,079. No idea what they really go for.
 
 I have another one (bit different 100-826-52-52) as well.
 
 Someone is offering me $600 for both. 
 
 Thoughts?
 
 Thanks, Chris
 
 
 
 1985 300SD 244K miles
 
 
       
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids

[LWB250]

Any Japanese car approaching 160k is going to need some work.  It's been my 
experience that while Hondas and Mazdas and Nissans are very reliable, they all 
seem to hit the wall reliability-wise around 160k or thereabouts.

Just my $0.02

Dan

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids
 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 6:13 PM
 http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1250338385.html
 
 The price it too high. You can probably get them
 down.  Looks pretty nice.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?

[Christopher McCann]

I just checked the classifieds on the m100 website. LO AND BEHOLD, the guy who 
offered me $300 each has a posting on the site! HA! I will hold out, especially 
since the auction has three people watching it.

Thanks! 

Chris

1985 300SD 244K miles


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 6:45 PM
 
 These are golden.  Anything for a W100 chassis is
 worth a small fortune - just look at the M100 Web site some
 time.  You know the secret handshake, don't you?
 
 Hold out for the $800 BIN - I'm willing to bet you'll get
 it - someone is just trying to get a deal and assumes you
 don't know what they're worth.
 
 Worst case scenario you can relist.
 
 He who is patient makes the most money, IMHO.
 
 Dan
 
 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo
 (w100) parts value?
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:30 PM
  
  I have this up for sale: 200358468360 (ebay #). Retail
 is
  $2,079. No idea what they really go for.
  
  I have another one (bit different 100-826-52-52) as
 well.
  
  Someone is offering me $600 for both. 
  
  Thoughts?
  
  Thanks, Chris
  
  
  
  1985 300SD 244K miles
  
  
        
  
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Re: [MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids

[Kevin]

My experience parallels Dan's.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 04:47:42PM -0700, LWB250 wrote:
 
 Any Japanese car approaching 160k is going to need some work.  It's been my 
 experience that while Hondas and Mazdas and Nissans are very reliable, they 
 all seem to hit the wall reliability-wise around 160k or thereabouts.
 
 Just my $0.02

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight wipers

[WILTON]

'Just trying to get the blade off, not the arm.  Blade looks like it snaps 
into place; I probably have not pulled/pried hard enough yet.  Thnks.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlight wipers



The wiper arms are held on by a nut that is underneath the cover.  You have 
to leave the blade/arm against the lamp and pry the cover up (towards the 
hinge and arm) to uncover the nut that holds the arm on the shaft.


The blade just snaps into the arm.

Dan


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: [MBZ] Headlight wipers
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:05 PM
'Trying to get headlight wiper blade
holders (springy part of wiper blade) off my 91 350SDL to
replace blades/rubber. They look like they're held in
place by spring clip on little vertical pin. 'Can't
get 'em out so far; replaced the blades/rubber several years
ago; 'thought it was easy then, and sure it's still easy
now, of course. Maybe I haven't pried/pulled hard
enough; 'don't wanna break something. Can somebody
remind me how the blade holders are held on.

Wilton
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[MBZ] Location of torque converter drain

[Ken Rushing]

Have an 87 420SEL. I'm looking for the torque converter drain. Is there an
access panel on the transmission? I don't have to drop the tranny to get to
it do I?Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate small engines

[Dwight E. Giles, Jr]

Soak it in carburetor cleaner? 

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 
1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles.
Wickford, RI
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:14 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: I hate small engines

Got the carb on my Tecumseh today, took me about 5 tries to get it on with
all the linkages on and the fuel line hooked up right.
Gas poured out when I first fueled up, I hadn't gotten the nut on the bowl
tight enough, its hard to tell. Tecumseh gives a torque spec but I don't
have an inch pounds torque wrench. I did the old torque it 'till it stops
leaking trick.

Now it'll start but won't idle. I can fiddle with the choke and throttle and
keep it going but it spits and pops. After spending some time with the
manual I think I've got an idle fuel passage thats plugged (imagine that!)
but the bastard has a restriction rod in it that doesn't come out and its
absolutely PACKED with crud... NO idea how I'm gonna clean that...

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

sounds like a shady deal to me.

Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote: well geez, usually if you buy a car from out of town, the seller will 
either pick you up or meet you at the airport with the car.

That's what I thought, too.  They did say I could take two trains and they 
would pick me up at the Elgin Train Stop. Whereever that is.


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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Kevin]

Sounds like a used car dealer or a liquidator who thinks they're selling gold.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:26:47PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 sounds like a shady deal to me.
 
 Donald Snook wrote:
 Kaleb wrote: well geez, usually if you buy a car from out of town, the 
 seller will either pick you up or meet you at the airport with the car.
 
 That's what I thought, too.  They did say I could take two trains and they 
 would pick me up at the Elgin Train Stop. Whereever that is.

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight wipers

[WILTON]

'Got 'em off; extremely easy once I was more confident about prying them 
off.  Thnks.


Wilton
- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlight wipers


'Just trying to get the blade off, not the arm.  Blade looks like it snaps 
into place; I probably have not pulled/pried hard enough yet.  Thnks.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Headlight wipers



The wiper arms are held on by a nut that is underneath the cover.  You 
have to leave the blade/arm against the lamp and pry the cover up (towards 
the hinge and arm) to uncover the nut that holds the arm on the shaft.


The blade just snaps into the arm.

Dan


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: [MBZ] Headlight wipers
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:05 PM
'Trying to get headlight wiper blade
holders (springy part of wiper blade) off my 91 350SDL to
replace blades/rubber. They look like they're held in
place by spring clip on little vertical pin. 'Can't
get 'em out so far; replaced the blades/rubber several years
ago; 'thought it was easy then, and sure it's still easy
now, of course. Maybe I haven't pried/pulled hard
enough; 'don't wanna break something. Can somebody
remind me how the blade holders are held on.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh boy!!! 


Donald Snook wrote:

Well, I have playing phone and email tag with the dealership on this 1997 Grand 
Marquis.  The guy and I worked out a price yesterday, but I didn't put the 
deposit down yet.  Its still on ebay, but I called and left a message with one 
of the other salesman that we had come to a deal and that the guy I have been 
dealing with should call me back when he gets in, so I can give them the 
deposit.   I sure hope they don't try something stupid like tell me they 
already sold it or try to back out of the deal.  I already have my plane ticket 
to Chicago for this weekend!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well I got a really nice gold with brown 300E that is available soon, 
just have to finish up a couple of bits on the engine swap.  Or I 
probably have a 190D somewhere I could sell.


OK Don wrote:

The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an MB, I'll have
to maintain it.

Which of teh GM, Frods, Japanese cars should be considered, or absolutely
avoided?

Kaleb - what's for sale now?

  


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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

so what are you going to do with the caddy?

Donald Snook wrote:

Loren wrote: Wow, I wouldn't want to be the guy who snookered Snook Re: 
Snookmobile

Ha Ha, Loren! That made me laugh! Well, all of the drama is over.  I spoke to 
the guy on the phone, put down a deposit and am ready to go! I arrive late 
Friday night and pick up the car Saturday morning!  Now, I just need to get a 
straw hat, some plaid pants, and pull my pants up too high and I will really 
fit in with Grand Marquis crowd!


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Re: [MBZ] Location of torque converter drain

[Dimitri Seretakis]

You have to rotate the engine by hand (27mm socket) until it appears in the 
opening cut out in the bell housing casting.

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On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Ken Rushing ken.rush...@gmail.com wrote:

Have an 87 420SEL. I'm looking for the torque converter drain. Is there an
access panel on the transmission? I don't have to drop the tranny to get to
it do I?Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Heck, there is a 92 300SD in Dallas that can be had for $2700

Donald Snook wrote:

http://wichita.craigslist.org/ctd/1250338385.html

The price it too high. You can probably get them down.  Looks pretty nice.


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Re: [MBZ] I've got Car Fever: was Re: Opinions about '89

[Mountain Man]

Snook wrote:
 If you are going to pick it up, you'll have to pay for it, too!

Awww - I forgot the smiley face at the end of my post - my bad.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Snookmobile update

[Mountain Man]

Kaleb wrote:
 so what are you going to do with the caddy?

He gonna be singing:
Oh, lord, won't you buy me a meersaydees benz,
My friends all have caddies, I must make amends...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[OK Don]

Cool. Looks like it will be the weekend of the 17th when we can get up
there. Donald still wants to look at trading his 300D for a 190D or two ---
the daughter/son-in-law can look at the 300E, etc. and figure what they're
interested in. We might clean you out --- or not. Looking at an E320 also -
looks pretty nice, but is a bit further away.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Well I got a really nice gold with brown 300E that is available soon, just
 have to finish up a couple of bits on the engine swap.  Or I probably have a
 190D somewhere I could sell.


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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If its a car dealer I really cant believe they wont meet  him at the 
airport.


Kevin wrote:

Sounds like a used car dealer or a liquidator who thinks they're selling gold.

On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 07:26:47PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  

sounds like a shady deal to me.

Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote: well geez, usually if you buy a car from out of town, the 
seller will either pick you up or meet you at the airport with the car.


That's what I thought, too.  They did say I could take two trains and they 
would pick me up at the Elgin Train Stop. Whereever that is.
  


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Re: [MBZ] OT - cheap kids car

[OK Don]

You know, the more I think about it, do I want them driving around in
anything less than an MB?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

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 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com

 The kids need another car - at or under $3000, and if it's an MB, I'll have
 to maintain it.


 Chevy Prizm. It has Toyota Corolla mechanicals. I own a 1999 that I bought
 for my kid and it has exceeded all of my expectations.

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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Mountain Man]

Snook wrote:
 They did say I could take two trains and they would pick me up at the Elgin 
 Train Stop. Whereever that is.


That would be the orange train downtown - easy from Midway.
Then walk 3 blocks downtown to Union station and take the train to Elgin.
Easy - fyi.
Even easier, since I am picking you up.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids

[OK Don]

With bent rods?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Heck, there is a 92 300SD in Dallas that can be had for $2700


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Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?

[LWB250]

I've dealt with these guys with two former MBs, and Todd's quote is spot on:


I know what the M-100 secret handshake is: The rare and elusive US $1,000 
bill. This is just like the secret Masonic handshake. You come up to someone 
that you suspect may have an M100, and extend your right hand with a $1,000 
bill cupped in your hand and smoothly pass it on. If the person looks down, and 
says WOW, I've never SEEN so much money in my LIFE, you immediately grab it 
back and continue on. If they say Huh, this is what I spent on my turn signal 
repair, you embrace them warmly. - Todd Knutson


I kid you not, the prices for the parts on these things are nothing short of 
obscene, and if you've got NOS stuff, you're sitting on a gold mine.  Hold out 
for every penny, 'cause eventually they'll cave, as this stuff cannot be had 
unless they go to the factory and pay out the bottom, if it's even available.  
And rest assured, these people have the money - it's just difficult separating 
it from them, and they prey on those who don't understand the value of these 
parts.  I would opine that the person who offered you $600 for the pair already 
had a buyer at a (much) higher price.

I'll reserve my opinion somewhat, suffice to say that the few dealings I've had 
with M100 people were not pleasant.

Dan


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:53 PM
 
 I just checked the classifieds on the m100 website. LO AND
 BEHOLD, the guy who offered me $300 each has a posting on
 the site! HA! I will hold out, especially since the auction
 has three people watching it.
 
 Thanks! 
 
 Chris
 
 1985 300SD 244K miles
 
 
 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo
 (w100) parts value?
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 6:45 PM
  
  These are golden.  Anything for a W100 chassis is
  worth a small fortune - just look at the M100 Web site
 some
  time.  You know the secret handshake, don't you?
  
  Hold out for the $800 BIN - I'm willing to bet you'll
 get
  it - someone is just trying to get a deal and assumes
 you
  don't know what they're worth.
  
  Worst case scenario you can relist.
  
  He who is patient makes the most money, IMHO.
  
  Dan
  
  --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
   Subject: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600
 limo
  (w100) parts value?
   To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:30 PM
   
   I have this up for sale: 200358468360 (ebay #).
 Retail
  is
   $2,079. No idea what they really go for.
   
   I have another one (bit different 100-826-52-52)
 as
  well.
   
   Someone is offering me $600 for both. 
   
   Thoughts?
   
   Thanks, Chris
   
   
   
   1985 300SD 244K miles
   
   
         
   
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Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?

[Christopher McCann]

hehehe. The light on ebay retails for $2,079. I have another one, 100-826-52-52 
and it's no longer available from MB. Mine is NOS, perfect condition.

I may end the auction now and repost with a ga-jillion pictures. Dude, you've 
been a tremendous help. Thanks so much!

I've registered on the M100 site and IF they let me on, I will post the part on 
the forum right after I relist it. :-)

Chris


1985 300SD 244K miles


--- On Thu, 7/2/09, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:52 PM
 
 I've dealt with these guys with two former MBs, and Todd's
 quote is spot on:
 
 
 I know what the M-100 secret handshake is: The rare and
 elusive US $1,000 bill. This is just like the secret Masonic
 handshake. You come up to someone that you suspect may have
 an M100, and extend your right hand with a $1,000 bill
 cupped in your hand and smoothly pass it on. If the person
 looks down, and says WOW, I've never SEEN so much money in
 my LIFE, you immediately grab it back and continue on. If
 they say Huh, this is what I spent on my turn signal
 repair, you embrace them warmly. - Todd Knutson
 
 
 I kid you not, the prices for the parts on these things are
 nothing short of obscene, and if you've got NOS stuff,
 you're sitting on a gold mine.  Hold out for every
 penny, 'cause eventually they'll cave, as this stuff cannot
 be had unless they go to the factory and pay out the bottom,
 if it's even available.  And rest assured, these people
 have the money - it's just difficult separating it from
 them, and they prey on those who don't understand the value
 of these parts.  I would opine that the person who
 offered you $600 for the pair already had a buyer at a
 (much) higher price.
 
 I'll reserve my opinion somewhat, suffice to say that the
 few dealings I've had with M100 people were not pleasant.
 
 Dan
 
 
 --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo
 (w100) parts value?
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:53 PM
  
  I just checked the classifieds on the m100 website. LO
 AND
  BEHOLD, the guy who offered me $300 each has a posting
 on
  the site! HA! I will hold out, especially since the
 auction
  has three people watching it.
  
  Thanks! 
  
  Chris
  
  1985 300SD 244K miles
  
  
  --- On Thu, 7/2/09, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
  wrote:
  
   From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600
 limo
  (w100) parts value?
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 6:45 PM
   
   These are golden.  Anything for a W100 chassis
 is
   worth a small fortune - just look at the M100 Web
 site
  some
   time.  You know the secret handshake, don't
 you?
   
   Hold out for the $800 BIN - I'm willing to bet
 you'll
  get
   it - someone is just trying to get a deal and
 assumes
  you
   don't know what they're worth.
   
   Worst case scenario you can relist.
   
   He who is patient makes the most money, IMHO.
   
   Dan
   
   --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
   
From: Christopher McCann xtofer1...@yahoo.com
Subject: [MBZ] anyone know anything about
 600
  limo
   (w100) parts value?
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:30 PM

I have this up for sale: 200358468360 (ebay
 #).
  Retail
   is
$2,079. No idea what they really go for.

I have another one (bit different
 100-826-52-52)
  as
   well.

Someone is offering me $600 for both. 

Thoughts?

Thanks, Chris



1985 300SD 244K miles


      

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Re: [MBZ] Car for OK Don's kids

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

who knows but I doubt it, got 220k, if its not burning a bunch of oil 
now, it probably wont.


OK Don wrote:

With bent rods?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

  

Heck, there is a 92 300SD in Dallas that can be had for $2700


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Re: [MBZ] anyone know anything about 600 limo (w100) parts value?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate small engines

[Curt Raymond]

Oh man, about a 6hp diesel with a nice heavy flywheel would be awesome...

A carb soak is just what the doctor ordered. My friend that owns the snowmobile 
shop used to have one, I need to head over and see if he's still got it. 
Otherwise I'll take a can of carb cleaner and a small container and dip just 
the tube, it sticks down from the carb a quarter inch or so.

The $400 Honda looms!

-Curt

Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:27:40 -0500
From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate small engines
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Go down to FLAPS and buy a can of carb cleaner.  I soaked the 60 
years of crud off the International H carb, and found OE factory 
paint underneath.  A word to the wise,  after you are done, store the 
carb cleaner in a glass jar or antifreeze jug.  It eats through the tin can.

But I agree, small engines are a pain.  something like a chinee 
Diesel would be a better choice, or a Putter diesel, if  you can find 
one.  But those are all horiz. shaft as far as I know.


  
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Re: [MBZ] anyone in Chicagoor suburbs?

[Allan Streib]

Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:

 Snook wrote:
 They did say I could take two trains and they would pick me up at the Elgin 
 Train Stop. Whereever that is.


 That would be the orange train downtown - easy from Midway.
 Then walk 3 blocks downtown to Union station and take the train to
 Elgin.

http://metrarail.com/Sched/md_w/md_w.shtml


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