[MBZ] What is an 85 TDM Worth These Days?
Just dug mine out of a pile of books. Other than a little curling of the cover corners, it's in perfect shape. I know you can't get these any more, at least I don't think you can. I'm thinking eBay for this bad boy, unless someone here wants it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
Rich Thomas wrote: Very nice car, dark blue, good paint and body with a few little dings, tan interior in fairly decent shape, good tires. He can get it sorted fairly easily I bet, will have an excellent car for cheap money. He'll need about a gallon of Febreze though. http://www.nilodor.com/shop/index/category/Pet_%2526_Home ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter noise
Guess it could be injectors. They were recently rebuilt. Cams have been good during all valve adjustments for past 45k miles. No flat spots I could find by touch, but will go over them again. clay On Oct 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Whining starter can be a bad overrunning clutch -- they eventually shriek for a while then fail. Check the valves again, just to be sure. Also check the cam for flat spots on the lobes. Don't mistake injector noise for valve tap! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
That story about engine mounts reminds me that I need to change mine, along with a tie rod, before I make another long trip. The difference in sound and vibration is indeed astonishing -- those are gel filled mounts, and when they rupture and the gel drains out, the engine is sitting on a pair of springs instead of vibration absorbing devices Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
Hi All - Speaking of W124's, I just finished installing the 2nd motor mount on my wife's 91 300D which had been rocking at idle. The change was nothing short of phenomenal! It's super quiet at idle as well as when driving! I am still absolutely in awe of the change it made. I'm hesitant to jump on the delivery valves anytime soon with it running so smoothly. Evidently the MMs have been getting gradually worse since we bought it nearly 3 years ago. I measured the old vs new MMs and the old one's have collapsed approximately 3/4" - 1" which really reduced the height of the engine. I complained about a knocking last week which stopped as we neared the dealer but they said the engine was hitting the exhaust because of the failing MMs. IMO this means if you have a nice W124 that is not running *extremely* smoothly, take a look at the MM's. BTW, when we bought this car it had 99k miles on it and now has approx 172K. BTW, the turbo side MM turned out to be as easy or easier than the other side to replace. Just make sure you start the lower bolt just a little then put the heat shield in place and get the upper bolt started. Once both are in place, tighten them and you're done. Have a nice week - LarryT 91 300D Does your business accept or need to accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the best rates & 0% Interest Business loans. Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706 -- From: "WILTON" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:02 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday Five years ago, when I was looking for an acceptable 124, I answered an ad in York, SC, for a '92 or so; 'called seller;' heard all sort of glowing promises about the car; drove 4+ hours to see it the next day. Opened the car's driver door and nearly passed out from the nicotine stench. 'Palomino interior severely stained. 'Bent down to look at RF tire, and seller proceeded to tell me how all the tires were new. In fact, they were all significantly worn and no two of them matched. IP was leaking oil; seller tried to tell me stealer tech had replaced it; in fact, the tech noted on receipt that IP SHOULD be replaced. Needles to say, I did NOT buy that car; 'found an absolutely showroom condition '87 300D coupla months later and drove it home. Wilton - Original Message - From: "ned kleinhenz" To: "Mercedes List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday Max: It's great news you have the newer type vacuum pump. IIRC that means there is a good chance you will find the drive cam OK too. I had to clean the ash trays in the dish washer to get rid of the last vestiges of smoke oder in one of my 124's. Ned ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
No brakes, car won't shut off with the key, doors don't lock, etc. Barely runs at idle, we had to push it up on the trailer with him goosing it to help out a bit. Might have boogered fuel or filters or something, it has been sitting awhile. It was clicking up at the front of the valve cover, not sure if that was timing chain or bad injector or clog or what. Very nice car, dark blue, good paint and body with a few little dings, tan interior in fairly decent shape, good tires. He can get it sorted fairly easily I bet, will have an excellent car for cheap money. He'll need about a gallon of Febreze though. --R Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I forget, what is the problem that makes you think the vacuum pump let go? The new style does not usually do that. I think it was total lack of vacuum. I assume he already looked everywhere in the brake circuit for an unplugged hose. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
Five years ago, when I was looking for an acceptable 124, I answered an ad in York, SC, for a '92 or so; 'called seller;' heard all sort of glowing promises about the car; drove 4+ hours to see it the next day. Opened the car's driver door and nearly passed out from the nicotine stench. 'Palomino interior severely stained. 'Bent down to look at RF tire, and seller proceeded to tell me how all the tires were new. In fact, they were all significantly worn and no two of them matched. IP was leaking oil; seller tried to tell me stealer tech had replaced it; in fact, the tech noted on receipt that IP SHOULD be replaced. Needles to say, I did NOT buy that car; 'found an absolutely showroom condition '87 300D coupla months later and drove it home. Wilton - Original Message - From: "ned kleinhenz" To: "Mercedes List" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday Max: It's great news you have the newer type vacuum pump. IIRC that means there is a good chance you will find the drive cam OK too. I had to clean the ash trays in the dish washer to get rid of the last vestiges of smoke oder in one of my 124's. Ned ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I forget, what is the problem that makes you think the vacuum pump let go? The new style does not usually do that. I think it was total lack of vacuum. I assume he already looked everywhere in the brake circuit for an unplugged hose. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
I forget, what is the problem that makes you think the vacuum pump let go? The new style does not usually do that. Max Dillon wrote: For those interested, Rich gave me a big help with his truck and we hauled the '95 E300 Diesel home yesterday. The good news is that the vac. pump is the newer style with screwed-down cover vice crimped, so at least THIS vacuum pump has probably not dumped into the engine yet. Haven't gotten time to take off the pump to see if the inj. pump timer is chewed up or not. Caught and release two lizard from inside the car today. Daughter was willing to try holding the first one until it wiggled in her hands, then she 'put it down quick'. Second lizard was bigger and came out trying to bite - she refused to hold it but wanted to watch it be released. Interior needs deep cleaning - owner was a smoker. More good news - factory six CD changer is in the trunk, didn't notice that first time around. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
Max: It's great news you have the newer type vacuum pump. IIRC that means there is a good chance you will find the drive cam OK too. I had to clean the ash trays in the dish washer to get rid of the last vestiges of smoke oder in one of my 124's. Ned ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter noise
Whining starter can be a bad overrunning clutch -- they eventually shriek for a while then fail. Check the valves again, just to be sure. Also check the cam for flat spots on the lobes. Don't mistake injector noise for valve tap! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dome [was Re: transmission options....]
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:43:55 -0500 MG wrote: > Yeah, It's 9" of foam with about an inch of concrete on the > outside. 48' in diameter, 3 freq. That makes each triangle about > 10' on a side and about 400lbs. Interesting project. The one I helped build had wooden triangles that were bolted together and then sprayed on the inside with foam. I'm not sure how the one you describe would be put together, since 1" of concrete is not self-supporting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Starter noise
Well, with the recent 2 out of 3 option for the pull start on Gump, I seem to have developed a whiny starter. I first noticed it when I found that the start cable had fallen off the IP. Since the IP fuel flow was not initiated, would that have caused the starter to develop this noise? Cable is now affixed to the IP, start and glow functions work as before. The high pitched whine though bothers me. Also seem to have more valve clatter with the new injectors and glow plugs. I had adjusted valve about 300 miles ago, so do not think they have changed in that time. Should I just go check for out of spec? clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts
it's the same understanding i have, but there is a tendency to call items oem that are quite simply lower quality aftermarket items, especially when they are marketed by the same company that also sells another version of that parts to benz. in other words, suppose behr is the original supplier to mercedes for a fan clutch on a certain car. they might also sell a somewhat different or a chinese knockoff version of this fan clutch in the aftermarket, where it is generally and incorrectly (on our understanding below) considered OEM. as for robbins' photographs, what they demonstrate is not differences between OE and OEM, but differences between hengst and mahle/knecht.a hengst oem filter would be identical to the hengst oe filter. the demonstration could just as easily be set up to show how OEM filters are superior to OE filters. it is also conceivable that mahle/knecht may not be an OE supplier for OM60x engine oil filters, which will then render robbins' argument to a preference for one particular OE filter to one particular aftermarket filter. in the end, while dramatic to some, there is no powerful argument being made by these images. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM, LarryT wrote: > Hi John - > Thanks for the photos showing similar parts. It would make a *very* > interesting database to take photos of a large number of OE parts and > compare them to the OEM parts. But I may be a little confused by the > terminology. It may be my understanding of the meanings though. > > OE - Original Equipment - IMO this means parts that come from the > dealership through their franchise with the manufacturer of the vehicle in > question - MB in this instance. > > OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer - the same parts (supposedly) as > the ones bought at the dealership. The quality is generally considered the > same but from your photos of the oil filters in particular it's easy to > think the quality is much lower. > > So, am I wrong with the above? > > Thx - > > LarryT > 91 300D > > Does your business accept or need to > accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the > best rates & 0% Interest Business loans. > Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706 > > -- > From: "John Robbins" > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:12 AM > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts > > > Gary Hurst wrote: >> >>> btw, to some extent this is the exact same case as if you bought genuine >>> mercedes as mercedes is also mostly just a marketing box. the >>> presumption >>> that you are getting "the best" by going genuine grows more and more >>> suspect >>> for me by the moment although there are still many out there who will >>> swear >>> to you that the corteco product in the mercedes box is really superior to >>> the identical looking corteco product in the corteco box (the sort of >>> argument previously made by dr booth with regards to fuel injectors) >>> >> >> I have found that the genuine OE coolant hoses are of better quality than >> the OEM ones. No idea why, but they are noticeably better. >> >> I'm going to start buying OE parts for a few items I haven't been >> impressed with the reliability of (hood pads, motor mounts, serpentine >> belts, suspension bushings, etc). We'll see how it turns out over time. >> >> A point of reference... >> >> http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_1.jpg >> http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_2.jpg >> http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_3.jpg >> >> John >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts
my biggest question would be whether the non benz hoses you have are actually OEM. On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:12 AM, John Robbins wrote: > Gary Hurst wrote: > >> btw, to some extent this is the exact same case as if you bought genuine >> mercedes as mercedes is also mostly just a marketing box. the presumption >> that you are getting "the best" by going genuine grows more and more >> suspect >> for me by the moment although there are still many out there who will >> swear >> to you that the corteco product in the mercedes box is really superior to >> the identical looking corteco product in the corteco box (the sort of >> argument previously made by dr booth with regards to fuel injectors) >> > > I have found that the genuine OE coolant hoses are of better quality than > the OEM ones. No idea why, but they are noticeably better. > > I'm going to start buying OE parts for a few items I haven't been impressed > with the reliability of (hood pads, motor mounts, serpentine belts, > suspension bushings, etc). We'll see how it turns out over time. > > A point of reference... > > http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_1.jpg > http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_2.jpg > http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_3.jpg > > John > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts
LarryT wrote: OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer - the same parts (supposedly) as the ones bought at the dealership. The quality is generally considered the same but from your photos of the oil filters in particular it's easy to think the quality is much lower. http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_1.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_2.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_3.jpg Dave's pics are obviously of a Hengst built MBZ filter and a Mahle filter. I just went to my box of filters and pulled out a Hengst that I bought from Rusty. It looks identical to the MBZ filter in Dave's pic, right down to the blue surround on the paper element. The only difference is the stamping on the endcap, where mine has the Hengst name and Dave's has Mercedes Benz. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dome [was Re: transmission options....]
Yeah, It's 9" of foam with about an inch of concrete on the outside. 48' in diameter, 3 freq. That makes each triangle about 10' on a side and about 400lbs. Interesting project. Manfred Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:33:23 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey Subject: [MBZ] OT: Dome [was Re: transmission options] On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:02:31 -0400 MG wrote: > Not really. That was just about all I know on the subject. Now > the dome on the other hand I could go on for hours about. Are you talking about a geodesic dome house? I helped a fellow build one of those years ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission options....
That's true but in retrospect the very slight gain in mileage wasn't really worth the loss of being able to camp where we wanted to, assuming the standard converter would have done the job. Lucky that I didn't pull the transmission just to replace a good converter with that one. It needed a rebuild and converter anyway. Otherwise I would have been really bummed out. Manfred Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:26:30 -0500 From: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options Which all points out the fact that all the factors have to be taken into account, choices and compromises made, and that there is no one "right" answer, just different trade-offs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission options....
I'll probably be here. Sometimes I feel like I'm stuck in a rut. I never seem to get to go any where. Just not time enough. :-) Manfred Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:35:36 -0400 From: "Bill R" Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options Next time I am heading to Ocala [not doing that very often these days, mostly because of grandkids] I'll see if you are available for lunch. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] transmission options....
Odd. I would have thought that the lack of power would have made them better on ice and snow. You'd think it would be easier to control the traction with that setup. yeah on the HP how about an engine with more torque. :-) Manfred Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:55:38 -0500 From: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options If you've ever driven an old 220D with a four speed auto and fluid coupling, you are familiar with the lack of torque at low speed. Engine rpm will NOT rise above the stall speed of the coupling plus road speed, makes for very slow acceleration until you get the engine spinning, and they are horrible on ice and snow. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts
Hi John - Thanks for the photos showing similar parts. It would make a *very* interesting database to take photos of a large number of OE parts and compare them to the OEM parts. But I may be a little confused by the terminology. It may be my understanding of the meanings though. OE - Original Equipment - IMO this means parts that come from the dealership through their franchise with the manufacturer of the vehicle in question - MB in this instance. OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer - the same parts (supposedly) as the ones bought at the dealership. The quality is generally considered the same but from your photos of the oil filters in particular it's easy to think the quality is much lower. So, am I wrong with the above? Thx - LarryT 91 300D Does your business accept or need to accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the best rates & 0% Interest Business loans. Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706 -- From: "John Robbins" Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 11:12 AM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts Gary Hurst wrote: btw, to some extent this is the exact same case as if you bought genuine mercedes as mercedes is also mostly just a marketing box. the presumption that you are getting "the best" by going genuine grows more and more suspect for me by the moment although there are still many out there who will swear to you that the corteco product in the mercedes box is really superior to the identical looking corteco product in the corteco box (the sort of argument previously made by dr booth with regards to fuel injectors) I have found that the genuine OE coolant hoses are of better quality than the OEM ones. No idea why, but they are noticeably better. I'm going to start buying OE parts for a few items I haven't been impressed with the reliability of (hood pads, motor mounts, serpentine belts, suspension bushings, etc). We'll see how it turns out over time. A point of reference... http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_1.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_2.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_3.jpg John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dragged home my new '95 124 diesel yesterday
For those interested, Rich gave me a big help with his truck and we hauled the '95 E300 Diesel home yesterday. The good news is that the vac. pump is the newer style with screwed-down cover vice crimped, so at least THIS vacuum pump has probably not dumped into the engine yet. Haven't gotten time to take off the pump to see if the inj. pump timer is chewed up or not. Caught and release two lizard from inside the car today. Daughter was willing to try holding the first one until it wiggled in her hands, then she 'put it down quick'. Second lizard was bigger and came out trying to bite - she refused to hold it but wanted to watch it be released. Interior needs deep cleaning - owner was a smoker. More good news - factory six CD changer is in the trunk, didn't notice that first time around. Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 Cutting Out at Low RPM
Look for a leak in the intake system between engine and air flow meter. The meter is usually remote from the throttle body, and any air leak between the two will cause lean running at low speed with the usual results -- rough idle, stalling, erratic throttle response, lack of automatic idle speed control, etc. On the M103 this is usually due to leaking idle control valve hoses and a bad boot between the air flow venturi and the throttle body, so on the 95 I'd look at all the rubber parts first. However, the intake manifold is also prone to cracks (I believe it is plastic) and will cause the same problems. My brother in law had this problem on his BMW -- replaced all four O2 sensors to fix a check engine light problem, but still had terrible throttle response and driveability problems, mostly stalling when releasing the clutch. When a smart mechanic finally found the crack in the intake hose and replaced it, it suddenly runs perfectly. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] E320 Cutting Out at Low RPM
So.got to drive the '05 E320 the other day for the first time in quite awhile. It was still stupidly hot out (98 in October? Really?) so the AC was on. I the normal course of driving I noticed that each time I'd have to stop for a light, it would stumble at idle. When slowing to turn corners (90 degree turns not sweeping turns), it would miss/stumble so that you can feel the power steering cutting in and out. When I asked wifey (usual E320 driver) if she noticed this before she of course said,"Yes...I just never thought to tell you." Anyone experience this? Dirty fuel filter maybe? If so, where is the fuel filter on this pig? Donkey Shirts Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts
Gary Hurst wrote: btw, to some extent this is the exact same case as if you bought genuine mercedes as mercedes is also mostly just a marketing box. the presumption that you are getting "the best" by going genuine grows more and more suspect for me by the moment although there are still many out there who will swear to you that the corteco product in the mercedes box is really superior to the identical looking corteco product in the corteco box (the sort of argument previously made by dr booth with regards to fuel injectors) I have found that the genuine OE coolant hoses are of better quality than the OEM ones. No idea why, but they are noticeably better. I'm going to start buying OE parts for a few items I haven't been impressed with the reliability of (hood pads, motor mounts, serpentine belts, suspension bushings, etc). We'll see how it turns out over time. A point of reference... http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_1.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_2.jpg http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/oil_filter_OM60x_3.jpg John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 alternators
Yea, I have heard that. With the old voltage regulator, the battery light was lightly faintly, so it looks like the bulb is good. When I put in a different regulator, now I dont think any of the lights are lighting when you turn the key on before starting. Well, the glow plug light but none of them that should be. John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: well this car had the contacts on the regulator worn almost completely down, so I swapped in another one but still not charging. I do know when the key is turned on, non of the lights light up on the dash. IIRC, if the alternator lightbulb is out, it won't have the initial field current correct? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.113/2400 - Release Date: 09/28/09 05:51:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 alternators
Craig McCluskey wrote: http://www.124performance.com/docs/general/tire_gauges_MCN_test.pdf along with a lot of information about oil, tools, glow plugs, and other things. His website is an absolutely amazing resource!!! I'm glad there are folks like him out there in our community. He's a really nice guy to boot. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seattle rod bender
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Now that is a good idea. The turbo 606 should make even a 5000+ lb W140 get up and go. Unfortunately, you need to have all the electronics to get that extra horsepower. If you convert it to a mechanical injection pump, you'll only have as much horsepower as the car that pump came off of. :( John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 alternators
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: well this car had the contacts on the regulator worn almost completely down, so I swapped in another one but still not charging. I do know when the key is turned on, non of the lights light up on the dash. IIRC, if the alternator lightbulb is out, it won't have the initial field current correct? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buying a Lottery Ticket Today
Essentially, yes. Dan --- On Sun, 10/25/09, Mitch Haley wrote: From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying a Lottery Ticket Today To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 9:36 AM LWB250 wrote: > Yup. And now I got the cash box open - another $5.25 plus a bunch of spare > parts like bulbs and fuses... So the kid paid you $7.25 to drag it home and clean it out? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buying a Lottery Ticket Today
LWB250 wrote: Yup. And now I got the cash box open - another $5.25 plus a bunch of spare parts like bulbs and fuses... So the kid paid you $7.25 to drag it home and clean it out? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buying a Lottery Ticket Today
Yup. And now I got the cash box open - another $5.25 plus a bunch of spare parts like bulbs and fuses... Dan --- On Sat, 10/24/09, WILTON wrote: From: WILTON Subject: Re: [MBZ] Buying a Lottery Ticket Today To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 9:32 PM ATTABOY! 'So he paid YOU significant cash to haul it away! Wilton - Original Message - From: "LWB250" To: "Okie Benz" ; "Banned" Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] Buying a Lottery Ticket Today Bought a jukebox off a kid last week on CL. He's had it up for several months starting at $500, and hasn't budged on the price. I'm not that interested, as it's a CD juke, not a vinyl one. He claims it works fine but needs some "TLC" to "equalize" the amp. Hmm. Anyway, I start throwing offers at him, knowing that he's had no takers for some time. We go back and forth for nearly a week, with me leaving him a final offer of $50. Well, he tells me someone is coming by to take a look at it that night. I tell him it's midnight to accept or no deal. I get an email at 11:00 telling me the last potential buyer wasn't interested. That makes me leery, but I know he's still got it on CL for $500, so who knows what this person offered him, if they even existed? I go down to look at it. In decent shape and is perfect functionally - the kid has no understanding of how to program it, and it's full of errors, which prevent it from playing anything. I hem and haw about how it's not working properly, after which I give him the $50 and he helps me load it on the trailer. This was Tuesday night. Fast forward to this morning. I've completely blown away all the settings back to default and the thing is working like new. 100 CDs in it and just waiting to make some title cards. So I'm doing some bulb changes and cleaning up the glass and cabinet, and it occurs to me that I should take a look in the bill acceptor. I pop it out, open the magazine, and lo and behold, there's cash in it! $52.00 cash! I don't have a cash box key for it, so I take off the chute between the coin acceptor and the cash box. The coin bag is in there, as is a plastic bag with some sort of plastic piece. I can't see anything else, as the opening from the coin acceptor chute is only about 3" square. I take a long screwdriver and poke it in the cash bag, and guess what? Coins! Sumbitch. Now all I have to do is get the coin box open, which I may yet be able to do from the inside. Not a bad deal. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wheels for Wilton
Agreed on both counts. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] wheels for Wilton Another fine and fine-looking car ruined with ridiculously silly wheels; car's actually worth MORE without 'em IMO. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] wheels for Wilton > Don't these look sweet? > > > > http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1435947360.html > > > > > > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > > 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. > > 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. > > Wickford, RI > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Febi Parts
Febi Bilstein are not related at all to the Bilstein comapany that makes shockabsorbers. Their website is www.febi.de. Have used their branded parts and they are very good often from the OEM supplier. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
