[MBZ] the two great minds of our age
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Re: [MBZ] Time to Change
What are the 190D's issues? Any? Would be a nice road trip... Bob R On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would probably take your car in on trade on it if you want. Bob Rentfro wrote: Is that the one you want to trade for my 300D? Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thermostat behaviour
Regardless, once you peg the temperature gauge, the odds are high that the thermostat needs to be replaced, UNLESS you had an air pocket in the top of the head. The late Dieseling Doctor used to say that the wax pellet in the t-stat would deform to the point that it no longer worked correctly. I like the idea of an air pocket in the system, especially if you recently drained/filled the coolant. Need to have the nose of the car elevated, begin fill at the upper radiator hose into the engine, keep heat setting on full heat and patiently fill in as much coolant as possible. I like to burp the system by squeezing the upper radiator hose until air no longer bubble up into the expansion tank and I don't hear air gurgling around when I squeeze the hose. A good sign that you have an air pocket is a gurgling sound under the dash upon hard acceleration. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:54 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thermostat behaviour That doesn't sound like thermostat to me at all. Coolant level? -Curt Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:03:14 -0500 From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thermostat behaviour To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 90845282-7154-4fe8-913e-9eaeb6dce...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Thanks for the help everyone. The coolant temp nearly pegged out, then after I played around the HVAC buttons it dropped to normal and the heater started blowing warm. Mike On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Mike, How high is way up? I doubt they're related problems, sounds like a monovalve failure for the lack of cabin heat (or some other problem with the HVAC) and maybe thermostat for the overheating (over 95 deg C is probably too hot when not in AC-season). Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
As described, the job was too easy. The VR seemed to be just fine. I noticed that the bail was off, it holds the plug into the back of the alternator, so I pulled the plug out and cleaned the contacts up with some Radio Shack contact cleaner. Reinstalled plug and its bail, checked voltage at the battery with engine running at idle (13.8 volts). This a.m. there were no issues with the light coming on, so I may have just had some dirty electrical contacts. Also checked the belt, tension was fine. I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Having done this job on both Diesel and vergasser versions of the 124, I can verify that they are in the same relative position. That being said, I've also learned that when the brushes have been too short for awhile, the rings in the alternator are often black or burnt, or both. A little fine sandpaper cleaned up mine so the alternator works again. Hope this isn't a trend or epidemic, but my '92 300D 2.5 wouldn't start this morning - just figured out that the battery is dead. Don't know whether the 2 1/2 year old (84 month) battery is toast, or if the alternator isn't charging yet. This is the only alternaotr in my collection that doesn't have a new VR/brush pack yet. As it will be 20F in the AM, I hope charging the battery out of the son's parked 190D will cure the situation. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: Now that I look at what I wrote, I think I've only done that job on the 300E, so I can't swear to the alternator on the diesel being in the same place, but it probably is---besides the obviously different stuff like the fuel injection system, ignition system (or lack thereof), and turbo (ditto), most everything under the hood is in more or less the same place on the OM603 and M103 cars. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Alex, uncharted territory for me and an easy approach to the alternator definitely helps. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 12:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks Curt, I'm going to check the belt and then probably pull the VR package and check the brushes. The latter is a trivial job on a 124 if you can raise it up a foot or so with ramps or stands. Just slide under the passenger side of the engine on your back with your head towards the rear wheels, take off the belly panels (if you are lucky enough to have them), and the back of the alternator is staring you in the face---two Phillips screws and the VR is out. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone have Gasoline Pressure Gauges?
I'm going to see what HF and Sears have. Looked at the book last night, I need to check for 38 to 43 psi after the fuel filter. Filter was changed in the last few years, but I'm wondering if low pressure caused by a plugged filter might be the source of the trouble. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone have Gasoline Pressure Gauges? I don't remember, but it's $35 now -- *http://tinyurl.com/yhjyqw2* On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: How much did you spend? Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone have Gasoline Pressure Gauges? I bought the cheap CIS fuel gauge set from JC Whittney a few years back - worked fine on the SLC. I don't know what your Infiniti needs though. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: All, My wife's Infiniti, '96 I-30 with 180k miles, has lately become hard to start. Just replaced the battery and was rewarded with a nice warm fuzzy feeling, and the car starts much better but it still isn't quite right. I pulled the diagnostic codes last night, and there were two codes for the two heated oxygen sensors (V6, so one O2 sensor for each bank of cylinders). Read the trouble shooting procedures for each, and both can lead to either a bad injector problem or low fuel pressure. The spark plugs are right at 59k miles and require replacement at 60k, so I'm going to fix that first but I don't think that will clear the codes. Does anyone have a gauge set for measuring fuel system pressure in a fuel injected gasoline car? Looking at the procedures for measuring fuel pressure and for testing the injectors, measuring fuel pressure looks much easier and because I'm getting the same code for each bank of 3 cylinders, I'm leaning toward a single cause vice failure of two or more injectors. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 317k miles '95 E300 274k miles '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Belt tensioner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 C230
damn!! OK Don wrote: Since Edmunds lists the trade-in, owner, and retail as: *$2,794* *$3,539* * $4,593*I'd say you should have snatched it up --- -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 C230
140k Allan Streib wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: One of my dealers had a 98 C230 they got in on trade. Pretty nice looking car, seemed to run great. They offered it to me for $1200. I passed but think maybe I should have bought it. Wow... did it have really high miles or something? (Depressing to realize that a '98 is already a 12 year old car) Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time to Change
I will email you some details later. Bob Rentfro wrote: What are the 190D's issues? Any? Would be a nice road trip... Bob R On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would probably take your car in on trade on it if you want. Bob Rentfro wrote: Is that the one you want to trade for my 300D? Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE
Yes, and I even have the MB tool and new bits to install. I've had them on the shelf for about two years now, need to just make some time and get 'er done! However, there's also something loose that sounds like muffler or heat shield, really obnoxious at low RPM / idle speeds, and probably some other contributors around the car. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 8:26 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALTERNATOR LIGHT WOE Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I did not have time to T/S any of the noises, which seem to be mostly loose and rattling stuff, maybe this weekend I'll be able to take a look. Belt tensioner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Powerful gasoline, a clean windshield, and a shoe shine
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1501805471.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Powerful gasoline, a clean windshield, and a shoe shine
Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1501805471.html Sticker was $43k, and retail value after 12,000 miles is $41k, but he's only asking $35k? Such a bargain. Somehow I suspect it depreciated more than 5% the day he drove it off the dealer's lot, so I think he's FOS on the $41k. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap S klasse?
Looks like a truck is involved somehow. --R Allan Streib wrote: What abot this story doesn't sound right? http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1501612188.html Also wish there were photos of the damage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] i really like australian stuff a lot
it's like stuff you used to see in america before we went totally walmart http://aussiedirect.stores.yahoo.net/sablricosa.html -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really like australian stuff a lot
Looks like a nice coat and I like the price. Too bad I don't ride a horse... ;) Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 9:43 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] i really like australian stuff a lot it's like stuff you used to see in america before we went totally walmart http://aussiedirect.stores.yahoo.net/sablricosa.html -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap S klasse?
Its a pre-face-lift W220 bleh! Nice ones at respectable dealers are not even worth much when compared to their original price tag. One that has a very questionable history is essentially worthless. You can easily put $5000 into this car for normal repairs. Jaime On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What abot this story doesn't sound right? http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1501612188.html Also wish there were photos of the damage. -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
LarryT wrote: When you say, to the top do you mean the top/Hot mark ? Or to the top of the filler neck? There are 2 lines on the side of the Exp Tk. - one for Low/Cold and another for High/Hot levels. I filled it to the filler neck. Here are some videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcg8uUoG5I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARyVwRha6Q And yes, I sell Oil Analysis Kits. You said there was no oil in the coolant and vice versa, but it's very difficult see unless there is a large amount of it - Yeah, there can definitely be coolant in there you can't see, but I'm going to hold out on doing much more of anything to the car until January sometime. I'm a little burned out on it. I've spent the last three or so weeks working on the car non-stop so I could take it up to New Hampshire this weekend, but I'm not taking it now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Thermostat behaviour
I took the car (84 300D) out this morning and everything worked normally. I am hoping it was a bubble/glitch in the system. Coolant level is good. Mike On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: That doesn't sound like thermostat to me at all. Coolant level? -Curt Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 19:03:14 -0500 From: Michael Esh michael...@me.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thermostat behaviour To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 90845282-7154-4fe8-913e-9eaeb6dce...@me.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Thanks for the help everyone. The coolant temp nearly pegged out, then after I played around the HVAC buttons it dropped to normal and the heater started blowing warm. Mike On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN- ATLANTIC,53310 wrote: Mike, How high is way up? I doubt they're related problems, sounds like a monovalve failure for the lack of cabin heat (or some other problem with the HVAC) and maybe thermostat for the overheating (over 95 deg C is probably too hot when not in AC-season). Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Boeing
Interesting news on the new Boeing plant going in here. --R http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/dec/09/sc-may-benefit-from-supplier-plan/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1
OK, that part I do understand. Seems a lot of effort to swap an engine though before finding out what the damage is on the one in there. However, I do understand. I have a boat in that situation. Loud knock from the lower end and I am guessing it will need the crank and the whole works so I just bought a small block Chevy short block assembly used that should swap in quickly. Will see what the damage is in due course but likely going to be bad. Boat is a bit easier to swap however as once the doghouse is removed, it is pretty much wide open. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:53 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1 Same reason you aren't driving your 300D, its cold and I don't have inside space to work in... ;) I could leave the car sit all winter and deal with it in the spring but I've got the cash and my Indy has the time. The engine could just need a couple valves sure but it could also have a trashed bottom end, no way to know without taking it apart and I'm not doing that outside in the snow. -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 16:58:22 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpkeehnnaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Why don't you tear it down and see what it needs? Might not be so bad as you think. If it turns out to be worse, you won't have wasted much effort. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:02 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1 Talked to my Indy today, asked him how he felt about an engine swap vs tearing down the engine in the car which had broken its timing chain. He said he really preferred the swap and figured it'd be cheaper too. I agree, so now I need to see about an engine... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing
Rich Thomas wrote: Interesting news on the new Boeing plant going in here. --R http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/dec/09/sc-may-benefit-from-supplier-plan/ So, the labor unions committed career suicide? Reminds me of the union shop I worked in the summer I was 18. The guys I worked with complained that they were inefficiently putting out crap, but didn't seem inclined to actually work harder, and I got leaned on a bit because I was putting out good parts too quickly until I slowed down. It was almost as bad as the Brit factory stories of the 1970's, the only thing missing was deliberate sabotage. (I guess it was more like the Soviet Union than England, nobody cared to do any more than they absolutely had to) Soon after, the company (Johnson Controls by then) told the union how far wages would have to go down to get the bottom line out of the red, and refused to negotiate any more than that for the new labor contract. The union went on strike, and Johnson closed the factory, because they were unwilling to run a factory with negative profit and the union was unwilling to do anything that would result in actual profit. I drove past it this afternoon, still empty. I think the 25th anniversary of the plant closing was this year. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603: Bubbles in Expansion Tank... Cracked head?
seems like its time to retire it to okie acres. John Robbins wrote: LarryT wrote: When you say, to the top do you mean the top/Hot mark ? Or to the top of the filler neck? There are 2 lines on the side of the Exp Tk. - one for Low/Cold and another for High/Hot levels. I filled it to the filler neck. Here are some videos... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcg8uUoG5I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARyVwRha6Q And yes, I sell Oil Analysis Kits. You said there was no oil in the coolant and vice versa, but it's very difficult see unless there is a large amount of it - Yeah, there can definitely be coolant in there you can't see, but I'm going to hold out on doing much more of anything to the car until January sometime. I'm a little burned out on it. I've spent the last three or so weeks working on the car non-stop so I could take it up to New Hampshire this weekend, but I'm not taking it now. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta tell someone about this
Just waiting for those boards to go flying across the yard aren't you? ;-) LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:16 PM To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Gotta tell someone about this After all my playing in the snow today... Kid across the street parked his RX-7 on his parent's lawn (said kid is probably 25 and has a kid of his own) because of the snow (where he normally parks is where the snow goes). Now at 9:10pm he's decided he wants to go somewhere but his high-performance (or cheap copies of same) tires have NO traction on the 1 of snow and wet grass he's parked on and while the lawn is basically flat he's totally stuck... Well actually he's stuck because he can't work the throttle less than halfway so he's putting too much power to the wheels and they spin. Now that I think of it with the big tomato can exhaust he's probably go no back pressure and thus no low-end power... Anyway its pretty entertaining to watch. So far he's twice gotten out and half-assed kicked snow away from the tires. Other than that he's just making noise and ruining the grass. Ahh its wonderful to be reminded that I actually have some sense. From where I sit I can SEE the boards he could put under the tires for traction... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Boeing
unions are criminal organizations meant to foster socialist agendas clay On Dec 9, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: Interesting news on the new Boeing plant going in here. --R http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/dec/09/sc-may-benefit-from-supplier-plan/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
Gary. I usually rant or delete OT posts-but you have hit on a subject dear to my heart ( palate). I grew up in Yuengling country and when I go back to visit my in-laws or they come to visit me-I get a case or two. It is still made at the original brewery n Pottsville, PA-but they also opened a brewery in FL-which explains why you see it there. I can get a draft of it in airports In NC but can't buy it at all here in RI-6 hours away from the Brewery. As I write this, I have a case of their traditional lager sitting in my shed. My favorite is their Lord Chesterfield Ale and their porter. If you ever get near Pottsville, Pa go visit the brewery-it's a trip back in time. http://www.yuengling.com/index.htm Oh yes MB content-I hauled the lager back from PA at Thanksgiving in my 300D 2.5t which got almost 33 mpg with cleaned out turbo. Didn't you grow up in NYC? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] mileage calculator auf Deutsch
I was looking thru the Open office extensions and came across this fuel mileage calculator. It is in German, but the headings should not be too hard to translate even if you don't know German Benzin-Verbrauch-Rechner http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/Benzin_Rechner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
Great beer, usually available around DC. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1
If nothing else driving 110 miles a day gives me time to think about things... When we rented the tow dolly the kid wouldn't rent it to me because Uhaul thinks a Ranger is too small to tow a 190D (they're probably right) so I quickly tried to convince the kid we'd take the dolly and put it on an F150. He wouldn't let that fly so I just as quickly took another direction and told him I was actually towing an MG B. That (surprisingly) flew just fine. Dwight complimented my quick thinking but actually I'd anticipated the problem. The F150 was my backup plan, the MG B was my backup-backup plan... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 21:21:09 -0600 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 437bc980912081921t1f3d788ax5c85f0373439a...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Now, that's the voice of reason! On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Same reason you aren't driving your 300D, its cold and I don't have inside space to work in... ;) I could leave the car sit all winter and deal with it in the spring but I've got the cash and my Indy has the time. The engine could just need a couple valves sure but it could also have a trashed bottom end, no way to know without taking it apart and I'm not doing that outside in the snow. -Curt -- OK Don CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. The Devil's Dictionary Ambrose Bierce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
They are now distributed by Anheiser Busch. Gary Hurst wrote: when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb car rebuild, step 1
He wouldn't let that fly so I just as quickly took another direction and told him I was actually towing an MG B. That (surprisingly) flew just fine. Reminds me of the time my Camaro spun a bearing 100 miles from home. I tried to rent a dolly to go get it. No soap, 'too far'. The next place they asked what I wanted it for, I told them (the truth) that I was just taking my Camaro to the engine rebuilders. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
The radio ads say it is the oldest operating brewery in the US., 1860some maybe? --R Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Gary. I usually rant or delete OT posts-but you have hit on a subject dear to my heart ( palate). I grew up in Yuengling country and when I go back to visit my in-laws or they come to visit me-I get a case or two. It is still made at the original brewery n Pottsville, PA-but they also opened a brewery in FL-which explains why you see it there. I can get a draft of it in airports In NC but can't buy it at all here in RI-6 hours away from the Brewery. As I write this, I have a case of their traditional lager sitting in my shed. My favorite is their Lord Chesterfield Ale and their porter. If you ever get near Pottsville, Pa go visit the brewery-it's a trip back in time. http://www.yuengling.com/index.htm Oh yes MB content-I hauled the lager back from PA at Thanksgiving in my 300D 2.5t which got almost 33 mpg with cleaned out turbo. Didn't you grow up in NYC? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
I drink it all the time, on draft whilst in Reading, PA. It seems very much to be a bar beer, that is not a high end mini-brew. I think it's great. -- Pete Arnold This e-mail from Peter Arnold and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in error please consult your religious adviser. If you are not the intended recipient, why have you read this far? Please do not staple, spindle or otherwise mutilate this document, doing so may damage your screen. All communications may be subject to interception or monitoring by the men in black helicopters for security purposes. Please rely on your own swine flu virus checking as the sender cannot accept any liability for any damage arising from any bug or virus infection. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Gary. I usually rant or delete OT posts-but you have hit on a subject dear to my heart ( palate). I grew up in Yuengling country and when I go back to visit my in-laws or they come to visit me-I get a case or two. It is still made at the original brewery n Pottsville, PA-but they also opened a brewery in FL-which explains why you see it there. I can get a draft of it in airports In NC but can't buy it at all here in RI-6 hours away from the Brewery. As I write this, I have a case of their traditional lager sitting in my shed. My favorite is their Lord Chesterfield Ale and their porter. If you ever get near Pottsville, Pa go visit the brewery-it's a trip back in time. http://www.yuengling.com/index.htm Oh yes MB content-I hauled the lager back from PA at Thanksgiving in my 300D 2.5t which got almost 33 mpg with cleaned out turbo. Didn't you grow up in NYC? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling
The reason why you see it everywhere you go lately is because the state of Georgia just started getting the stuff about 6 months ago, so it's probably all the rave down there. I know this because a college buddy of mine now lives in Atlanta and he called me the day he was able to buy a 12 pack of it in the store. For whatever reason, they never had it down there before. Kinda like how NC never had Sweetwater 420 until I tasted some at the Charlotte Oktoberfest in 2007. Now the stuff is everywhere. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:28 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Yuengling
Hi Gary, I have known Yuengling as a Philly beer, and the oldest brewery in America. http://www.yuengling.com/distrib.htm Looks like they are still Mid-Atlantic/ East Coast regional beer. I did find this note in their history: 1999 Yuengling purchases former Stroh brewery in Tampa, Florida. Florida market begins selling America's Oldest beer. I don't know if that explains what you see, but is that in your general neighborhood? Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 6 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 18:27:48 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling To: Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com, Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 8b0e7cce0912091527hf0f016k517c633d329d8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you happened to be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in certain areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were out of the city and someplace completely else. lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't just relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? _ Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?ocid=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_4:092009 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage calculator auf Deutsch
Dieselhead wrote: I was looking thru the Open office extensions and came across this fuel mileage calculator. It is in German, but the headings should not be too hard to translate even if you don't know German Benzin-Verbrauch-Rechner http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/Benzin_Rechner G. Except it has the cells locked with a password. And OpenOffice3 has some new options for locking each sheet - with the result that if the document was locked under earlier versions none of the cells are selectable!! Making it real pain to use. Right click on a cell, then cancel the contextual menu in order to select a cell. Oh well... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mileage calculator auf Deutsch
Guess I should have tested it before I posted the find It is not that hard to build your own. Dieselhead wrote: I was looking thru the Open office extensions and came across this fuel mileage calculator. It is in German, but the headings should not be too hard to translate even if you don't know German Benzin-Verbrauch-Rechner http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/Benzin_Rechner G. Except it has the cells locked with a password. And OpenOffice3 has some new options for locking each sheet - with the result that if the document was locked under earlier versions none of the cells are selectable!! Making it real pain to use. Right click on a cell, then cancel the contextual menu in order to select a cell. Oh well... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
