Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Curt, best of luck. You'll be home the next day, full of the devil, able to jog up a flight of stairs. BTDT, I have the scars, 8 stents and 2 'Grand Openings'. What is to be learned is that you do have cardiac disease, it is treatable, it will comeback. Your mission is to take note and not deny it when it returns. That will tend to keep further bad things from happening. Pete Arnold On 1/26/2010 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my heart. Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath. Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage. Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in... So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Very interesting to watch if they have a dedicated monitor. My Doc replayed several time for me on my 1st one, 22 years ago. Bad things happen to good folks, one partner about 40 years old in my Cardiology Group dropped dead while jogging. It was devastating to the group. For the last 10 years, the thrust by my Doc {Senior Partner} has been to keep folks in a quality lifestyle consistent with their needs, wants and abilities. What will kill you for sure is ignoring the basic signs that are manifested in cardiac distress. Pete On 1/26/2010 5:26 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Good luck. Hope it all goes well. I did not get a stent but did have the test where they put the tube in through the groin and then have a look inside. Mine turned out fine apparently. The one thing I regret is that I let them give me the anaesthetic - did I spell that right? They told me I could or did not need to have it. I asked what they recommended and ended up with it. I was told I could watch the whole thing on the monitor but I don't recall much of anything due to the drugs. I do remember the big clamp on my leg afterward to make sure I did not bleed while the hole they made clogged itself up. They hauled me back accross town to another hospital and brought me lunch and then told me I was not to even lift my head. Just lie flat on my back for another hour or two. Ever try to eat off of a tray overhead without lifting your head at all? Especially the soup? In any event, not trying to steal your thread but if all goes well it will be quick and easy and should fix your immediate issues. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:52 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my heart. Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath. Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage. Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in... So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
CABG (pronounced cabbage)=Coronary Artery Graft Bypass (i.e. Using leg vein) LIMA=Left Interior Mammary (?) Artery (taking that artery and attaching it downstream of the block) The vein bypasses have a more limited lifetime I had to learn a bit about such when my dad went in for such; he went in for an ankle and ended up with a basket of veggies and a valve job. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 26, 2010, at 17:16, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: John wrote: Yech. You are likely off the low end of the age chart for CABG... Maybe a LIMA (if one would be enough...) How about IP or DV or... What's a LIMA? or CABG? I like medicine for what it does, but what it is doing these days is obscene. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic
Use a basin wrench (the plumbing tool). It doesn't matter if the old one gets damaged since you are putting a new one on. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 26, 2010, at 17:26, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Max wrote: 2) Leaking fuel primer pump. If old style with white handle that you unscrew before operating, and it leaks even the slightest bit of fuel, replace it. I found replacement was a real job. Large hex, skinny place to reach - it was not an easy job. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash
I'd need to check, but it could be an atmospheric vent... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 26, 2010, at 18:40, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The green tube with a white stripe which comes out of the firewall into the engine compartment in my '83 300D will not hold vacuum on the Mityvac. I'm guessing it goes to the climate control units under the dash. Can the climate control vacuum units be checked without removing the dash? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
I'll cross my fingers for you! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 26, 2010, at 20:50, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Randy, Yeah with luck... This is one of those things where I'm now finding symptoms that fit the diagnosis gee I have been feeling tired lately so with any luck I'll be firing on all cylinders again soon. If you guys don't hear from me tomorrow you can assume I've gotten a stent or something. I should be back on Friday. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:26:23 -0600 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpeejknpaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Good luck. Hope it all goes well. I did not get a stent but did have the test where they put the tube in through the groin and then have a look inside. Mine turned out fine apparently. The one thing I regret is that I let them give me the anaesthetic - did I spell that right? They told me I could or did not need to have it. I asked what they recommended and ended up with it. I was told I could watch the whole thing on the monitor but I don't recall much of anything due to the drugs. I do remember the big clamp on my leg afterward to make sure I did not bleed while the hole they made clogged itself up. They hauled me back accross town to another hospital and brought me lunch and then told me I was not to even lift my head. Just lie flat on my back for another hour or two. Ever try to eat off of a tray overhead without lifting your head at all? Especially the soup? In any event, not trying to steal your thread but if all goes well it will be quick and easy and should fix your immediate issues. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Danish ad
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.m2film.dk/fleggaard/trailer2.swf So how do I save that locally to convert it to an MP4 with Handbrake? Right-clicking the link doesn't get anything. The page is .swf, but it embeds a .flv video. I use Downloadhelper to grab .flv video from Youtube, it also worked while viewing the link above. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Double ditto, you are on my daily prayer list. Harry - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:52:15 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath. We will be praying for you, Curt. Ditto. Best of luck, Curt. I'm only four years older than you... hang in there so I don't have to worry about my own heart. ;) Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Peter T. Arnold wrote: Very interesting to watch if they have a dedicated monitor. My Doc replayed several time for me on my 1st one, 22 years ago. Bad things happen to good folks, one partner about 40 years old in my Cardiology Group dropped dead while jogging. A friend of mine retired early from his radiology practice when he was about 55. When he was 61, he went on a 100 mile mountain bike ride the Sunday after Thanksgiving (this is in Michigan, where late November is not pleasant cycling weather). The day after that, he went to the fitness club to work out, and died on the incline board doing stomach crunches. He was the fittest he'd ever been in his life when he died, and he had a massive M.I. while doing partial sit-ups. I wonder what the med student who got that cadaver thought. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL
Radio inop, but it was calling for a code. I have a Becker upgrade for that. There is a code decoder application for the PC. I'm not sure I understand. Is this software that will give me a code? Dome light inop when door is opened. He got a new switch assembly from Rusty that he hasn't delivered to me yet. Driver's side? That can also be a blown diode in the warning module. Have you ever noticed that when you open the passenger door, only the passenger-side lights go on? I'll check it out, I know the light works in the on position but not when in the door position with the driver's door. I'll report back and will need more info on that diode. The other electrical problem he had was the inop blower motor. The Indy put in a new blower assembly and I cured it with the aux. 30 amp fuse kit from Rusty, the only money I've spent so far. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL
There is a code decoder application for the PC. I'm not sure I understand. Is this software that will give me a code? Yes. Becker NA will also give you the code for $20. I'm doing that for this used Traffic Pro 7881 I'm trying to put into the SEL. I'll check it out, I know the light works in the on position but not when in the door position with the driver's door. I'll report back and will need more info on that diode. Other symptoms too, such as does the key-in or lights-on buzzer work when the door is opened; does the seat adjustment work with the door open and the key off? You can open the warning module and repair the diode, if that's the problem, or you can just replace the warning module. Depends on how cheap you are, and whether or not you can solder and such. (I: cheap as anything and a solderin' fool. Sometimes I regret it.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash
I'd need to check, but it could be an atmospheric vent... Green is HVAC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Good luck Curt, it sounds trite, but they really have this stuff down now. I had angioplasty on my right femoral artery when I was 30 because it was 90% blocked at my knee. Then at 33 I had a fem/pop bypass on my left femoral artery which was also 90% blocked. The doctor had no idea how these blockages occurred at such a young age. The good news is it has been 22 years and no recurrences in either leg. You will feel much better after the procedure. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my heart. Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath. Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage. Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in... So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Curt, I hope all goes well and that you have a speedy recovery!!! On 1/27/2010 3:41 AM, Peter T. Arnold wrote: What is to be learned is that you do have cardiac disease, it is treatable, it will comeback. Your mission is to take note and not deny it when it returns. That will tend to keep further bad things from happening. Nicely said. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
On 1/26/2010 10:24 PM, WILTON wrote: Not very well! x2! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Kaleb wrote: Oh lord, here we go again. You are so predictable its not even funny. This whole thing started because of my Barber. He had a customer who told him he had a BMW for sale. My barber said Hey, I know a young lawyer that just made partner and he needs a nice BMW. Two days later, I got my haircut and he told me about it. He said he thought it was a 2002 7 series with only 50,000 miles. So, I was interested only because I thought I could buy the car and immediately sell it. I had no intentions of buying a $19,000 car to drive. Then, of course, I found it was 5 series and it was a 2000 model. I still just wanted to buy it and sell it. But, after driving it, I decided it would be a nice car and with only 58,000 miles, I could pass it down to my wife for her to drive. So, I don't know that I am getting rid of my BMW. I still really enjoy driving it. I will just have to see which one sells first. Allegedly, my Indy has people interested in both of them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
I sensing a joke here. Did you: Did you hear about the Lawyer who wanted to improve his image, so he became a used car salesman? -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:21:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice Kaleb wrote: Oh lord, here we go again. You are so predictable its not even funny. This whole thing started because of my Barber. He had a customer who told him he had a BMW for sale. My barber said Hey, I know a young lawyer that just made partner and he needs a nice BMW. Two days later, I got my haircut and he told me about it. He said he thought it was a 2002 7 series with only 50,000 miles. So, I was interested only because I thought I could buy the car and immediately sell it. I had no intentions of buying a $19,000 car to drive. Then, of course, I found it was 5 series and it was a 2000 model. I still just wanted to buy it and sell it. But, after driving it, I decided it would be a nice car and with only 58,000 miles, I could pass it down to my wife for her to drive. So, I don't know that I am getting rid of my BMW. I still really enjoy driving it. I will just have to see which one sells first. Allegedly, my Indy has people interested in both of them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL
Harry, If you call the Rusty with the VIN, he can give you the radio code. The $20 is optional. Radio inop, but it was calling for a code. I have a Becker upgrade for that. There is a code decoder application for the PC. I'm not sure I understand. Is this software that will give me a code? Dome light inop when door is opened. He got a new switch assembly from Rusty that he hasn't delivered to me yet. Driver's side? That can also be a blown diode in the warning module. Have you ever noticed that when you open the passenger door, only the passenger-side lights go on? I'll check it out, I know the light works in the on position but not when in the door position with the driver's door. I'll report back and will need more info on that diode. The other electrical problem he had was the inop blower motor. The Indy put in a new blower assembly and I cured it with the aux. 30 amp fuse kit from Rusty, the only money I've spent so far. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Wow! That is a huge upward leap in status. It is pretty much unheard of. Did you hear about the Lawyer who wanted to improve his image, so he became a used car salesman? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] You drive what?
You drive what is like the people of walmart pictures, but with cars. http://www.youdrivewhat.com/ its pretty funny! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues.
Found one for sale in MN for $1500, he's had it listed forever and now it has some tree damage. My wife INSISTS I go get it... -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash
W126 chassis has color stripe lines for ACC, not green. Peter -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sent: Jan 27, 2010 8:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash I'd need to check, but it could be an atmospheric vent... Green is HVAC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Kaleb, this one needs to be added to the quotes page! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice I sensing a joke here. Did you: Did you hear about the Lawyer who wanted to improve his image, so he became a used car salesman? -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:21:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice Kaleb wrote: Oh lord, here we go again. You are so predictable its not even funny. This whole thing started because of my Barber. He had a customer who told him he had a BMW for sale. My barber said Hey, I know a young lawyer that just made partner and he needs a nice BMW. Two days later, I got my haircut and he told me about it. He said he thought it was a 2002 7 series with only 50,000 miles. So, I was interested only because I thought I could buy the car and immediately sell it. I had no intentions of buying a $19,000 car to drive. Then, of course, I found it was 5 series and it was a 2000 model. I still just wanted to buy it and sell it. But, after driving it, I decided it would be a nice car and with only 58,000 miles, I could pass it down to my wife for her to drive. So, I don't know that I am getting rid of my BMW. I still really enjoy driving it. I will just have to see which one sells first. Allegedly, my Indy has people interested in both of them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Hey Max, look at this -- we need to buy that 1993 Mercedes 600SCL v12 (whatever it is) and then sell it to Donald. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572827527.html --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Kaleb, this one needs to be added to the quotes page! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice I sensing a joke here. Did you: Did you hear about the Lawyer who wanted to improve his image, so he became a used car salesman? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a pair for wilton
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572520023.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a pair for wilton
Or, her gain is your gain http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572129446.html --R Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572520023.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Maybe you should sell the Expedition and let your wife have one of the cars now. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:22 AM To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice Kaleb wrote: Oh lord, here we go again. You are so predictable its not even funny. This whole thing started because of my Barber. He had a customer who told him he had a BMW for sale. My barber said Hey, I know a young lawyer that just made partner and he needs a nice BMW. Two days later, I got my haircut and he told me about it. He said he thought it was a 2002 7 series with only 50,000 miles. So, I was interested only because I thought I could buy the car and immediately sell it. I had no intentions of buying a $19,000 car to drive. Then, of course, I found it was 5 series and it was a 2000 model. I still just wanted to buy it and sell it. But, after driving it, I decided it would be a nice car and with only 58,000 miles, I could pass it down to my wife for her to drive. So, I don't know that I am getting rid of my BMW. I still really enjoy driving it. I will just have to see which one sells first. Allegedly, my Indy has people interested in both of them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues.
Is she going to INSIST that you live in it once you have it? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues. Found one for sale in MN for $1500, he's had it listed forever and now it has some tree damage. My wife INSISTS I go get it... -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a pair for wilton
Sell the wheels for $2K and drive the free car. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] a pair for wilton http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572520023.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stents
Friend is an active humanitarian in Malawi. Two years go, stopped at the hospital on the way to the airport for a sting insertion - outpatient, then on to malouwi for 10 weeks of well drilling. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:54 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: My Mom, to be 98 in July, had a stent put in about seven years ago following a ride to Swedish Hospital in a Fire Dept. Medic unit. Still cruising along fine, cardiac-wise but with lots of expensive meds daily. A few episodes of AF since, now well controlled. My friend JB remarked to me last month in a very matter of fact way that he had two stents installed that very week. Overnight in the hospital, home the next morning and back to work the following day. Nothing to it, according to him. But, he doesn't make a career out of being sick when it comes. If my Cardiologist decided I needed a stent, I'd just say OK, when? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues.
No but a man cave on wheels is awfully appealing! -Rolf On 01/27/2010 12:45 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Is she going to INSIST that you live in it once you have it? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues. Found one for sale in MN for $1500, he's had it listed forever and now it has some tree damage. My wife INSISTS I go get it... -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
John Robbins wrote: On 1/26/2010 10:24 PM, WILTON wrote: Not very well! x2! That's one heck of a belly. Ya think she weighs more than the new, improved Hursty? At least she stood behind a counter and kept her shirt on. There's much worse on that website. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash
The black tube is not connected to anything under the dash, so maybe it's the atmospheric vent. Green tube will not sustain any vacuum. Found some printouts from Marshalls time which state that I'll probably have to pull the dash and replace a vacuum unit of which there are five. I'll replace all five since pulling the dash was not much fun the first time I did it. Thanks John, Jim, Gerry - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net I'd need to check, but it could be an atmospheric vent... Green is HVAC. -- Jim - From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net I'd need to check, but it could be an atmospheric vent... John W Reames - The green tube with a white stripe which comes out of the firewall into the engine compartment in my '83 300D will not hold vacuum on the Mityvac. I'm guessing it goes to the climate control units under the dash. Can the climate control vacuum units be checked without removing the dash? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Donald Snook wrote: My barber said Hey, I know a young lawyer that just made partner and he needs a nice BMW. You made partner? Congrats. How long before they put your name on the door? I decided it would be a nice car and with only 58,000 miles, I could pass it down to my wife for her to drive. I thought the Ford was her 'cold, dead hands' car? (like Charlton Heston and his musket) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a pair for wilton
A pity to spend so much on senseless, ridiculous wheels and likely so little on education. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: [MBZ] a pair for wilton http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572520023.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Re: You drive what?
funny stuff indeed, but i have to admit; i kinda' like the 8 series in the first pic,... reminds me of what Warhol was doing, and some of the early M1 race cars. (interesting to note that even in this pic there's a WalMart sign visible in the background!) cheers! e Donald Snook wrote: You drive what is like the people of walmart pictures, but with cars. http://www.youdrivewhat.com/ its pretty funny! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a pair for wilton
Why do people feel the need to use the term to be honest? Shouldn't everybody just basically be honest, anyway, without having to declare it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a pair for wilton Or, her gain is your gain http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572129446.html --R Rich Thomas wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572520023.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
The secret will be to have his Indie present the car, after his Barber tips him off to it Donald, truth is we're all jealous. BMW's are great cars, I've only owned one and it was a tremendous money pit but far and away the car I've enjoyed driving the most. Rich, I'm game for going to the auction if I'm in town (though I'll have to surrender wallet and checkbook before I leave the house). -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice Hey Max, look at this -- we need to buy that 1993 Mercedes 600SCL v12 (whatever it is) and then sell it to Donald. http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1572827527.html --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Kaleb, this one needs to be added to the quotes page! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of pm7...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car advice I sensing a joke here. Did you: Did you hear about the Lawyer who wanted to improve his image, so he became a used car salesman? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues.
Rolf wrote: Found one for sale in MN for $1500, he's had it listed forever and now it has some tree damage. My wife INSISTS I go get it... http://raleigh.craigslist.org/rvs/1565762829.html http://nh.craigslist.org/rvs/1571340270.html http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/rvs/1562076916.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic
or a subaru. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:06 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: Saw this for sale on another list really pricey, but it is pretty rare. I didn't even know this was possible with the OM603. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1362534-1989-300tdt-4matic-wagon-sale.html They sold the diesel 4Matic cars everywhere but the USA. All 124 4Matics are to be avoided like the plague, though. Notorious for transfer case failures whose repair far exceeds the value of the car. If you want a four-wheel-drive Benz you are better off getting a W210 or later, which have a much simpler, more reliable 4WD system. Or a G-Wagen. Or a Unimog. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: You drive what?
Several pages in there is a car in sort of a leopard paint that I liked. Big fins as in the late 50's but obviously added to something newer. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of ernest breakfield Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT Re: You drive what? funny stuff indeed, but i have to admit; i kinda' like the 8 series in the first pic,... reminds me of what Warhol was doing, and some of the early M1 race cars. (interesting to note that even in this pic there's a WalMart sign visible in the background!) cheers! e Donald Snook wrote: You drive what is like the people of walmart pictures, but with cars. http://www.youdrivewhat.com/ its pretty funny! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You drive what?
Donald Snook wrote: You drive what is like the people of walmart pictures, but with cars. http://www.youdrivewhat.com/ So, Don, you looking to buy this one? http://media.youdrivewhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny_Car_78.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Randy wrote: Maybe you should sell the Expedition and let your wife have one of the cars now. That is exactly what I want to do. But, she loves her expedition. Plus, we can't make any money selling it. Its worth about what we owe on it. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?
Curt Raymond wrote: Just over a year ago when I completely overhauled the brakes, its got all new rotors, pads, calipers and soft hoses. Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Could it feel soft after a long drive if the pads slowly retract further during the trip? Allan Streib wrote: Disk brake pads don't really retract. They just sort of skim the surface of the rotor with no pressure, until the brakes are applied. Unless the wheel bearing have too much play, then the wobble will cause extra pad retraction. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CALLING FMISER
Dan Weeks wrote: PHillip: How many miles at the time, do you recall? Zero recollection. So I walk out to the car and look. Odometer shows 229,xxx miles - but if I remember correctly, I repaired the odometer on that car, so at least a few more. I don't think the engine was ever replaced. The oil mostly leaked out above the headlight and for a few inches along the hood/fender gap. The amount of topoff oil I had to add never felt like more than proper - up till just before I first notice the miss. The engine ran and started okay, but cylinder 3 wasn't doing it's fair share of the work. From when I first determined indeed it has a miss to why is the oil pressure gauge not at the top peg? was probably about 1000 miles. Engine number - 617.952.12.034565 -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?
Fmiser wrote: Unless the wheel bearing have too much play, then the wobble will cause extra pad retraction. Oh, yes, this is Curt's 240D, isn't it? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Mitch wrote: You made partner? Congrats. How long before they put your name on the door? I thought the Ford was her 'cold, dead hands' car? (like Charlton Heston and his musket) I did make partner. They will not put my name on the door. The last named partner has been with the firm for 52 years. None of the partners that followed him have been named. In fact, once he dies, we will drop off the last three names and just be McDonald, Tinker. It is too hard to say all five names, much the other 11 partners. McDonald has been dead for 50 years and Tinker has been dead for 10 years. The original name of the firm (founded in 1905) was Amidon and Dale, but obviously they have been dead for decades. As for the Expedition, yes, my wife has no desire to get rid of it. But, it does have 145,000 miles. So, eventually, something major is going to go wrong with it and she might part with it then. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic
Yeah, bummer that Subaru has reportedly changed their mind and won't offer cars with their new flat-four turbodiesel in the USA after all. On 1/27/10, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: or a subaru. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:06 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: Saw this for sale on another list really pricey, but it is pretty rare. I didn't even know this was possible with the OM603. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1362534-1989-300tdt-4matic-wagon-sale.html They sold the diesel 4Matic cars everywhere but the USA. All 124 4Matics are to be avoided like the plague, though. Notorious for transfer case failures whose repair far exceeds the value of the car. If you want a four-wheel-drive Benz you are better off getting a W210 or later, which have a much simpler, more reliable 4WD system. Or a G-Wagen. Or a Unimog. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic
i am confused by that. didn't honda promise us some great diesel for the past few years but it never showed up either? On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, bummer that Subaru has reportedly changed their mind and won't offer cars with their new flat-four turbodiesel in the USA after all. On 1/27/10, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: or a subaru. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:06 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote: Saw this for sale on another list really pricey, but it is pretty rare. I didn't even know this was possible with the OM603. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1362534-1989-300tdt-4matic-wagon-sale.html They sold the diesel 4Matic cars everywhere but the USA. All 124 4Matics are to be avoided like the plague, though. Notorious for transfer case failures whose repair far exceeds the value of the car. If you want a four-wheel-drive Benz you are better off getting a W210 or later, which have a much simpler, more reliable 4WD system. Or a G-Wagen. Or a Unimog. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel availability WAS: 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic
THere was a lot of press in 2006 regarding Diesels. Honda was going to offer the ultimate Diesel. In their brilliance, they decided the LA market was most likely to buy Diesels. It never occurred to the New York marketing geniuses that people in the middle of the country who drive long distances (and buy Diesel pickups) might be interested in their piece of work. So the test market was declared a failure ala GM 1984. Daimler chrysler also announced Bluetec diesel engines would be available in many models in the 2007 model year. These included Cheeps, and a lot of Dodge models. With the shareholder revolt, that never happened. I am not sure if any chrysler models were slated for Diesels or not. i am confused by that. didn't honda promise us some great diesel for the past few years but it never showed up either? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] banned
I think your life was over long ago. relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Uh Woger, wrong list, I may have to ban you First, Ritter. Now, you. My life is over. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic
Gary Hurst wrote: i am confused by that. didn't honda promise us some great diesel for the past few years but it never showed up either? With the cute cartoon of the Honda engine fluttering around like a butterfly, inhaling pollution and exhausting wonderful clean air? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] worst of its over
So its done, 3 stents in 2 different places. If it weren't for the pain in my leg and that I get dizzy quick I'd be outta here now. Thanks for all the kind words you lot. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Try this
The Grimsel Pass is in Switzerland. http://www.gamaniak.com/video/3625 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] worst of its over
Curt, That's great-now you can diagnose the brake booster problem on your 240D tomorrow. Take good care. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 7:50 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] worst of its over So its done, 3 stents in 2 different places. If it weren't for the pain in my leg and that I get dizzy quick I'd be outta here now. Thanks for all the kind words you lot. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash
You don't need to pull the dash, necessarily. IIRC you can access the vacuum valve cluster behind the ACC pushbutton unit, and you can do some further MityVac diagnosis there. Then, at least, you'd know more about what's really leaking. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
OMG! The misinformation I would propagate without Hendrik to keep me straight. Thanks Hendrik I mean well. 18. Re: 1984 230E (Hendrik Fay) From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Actually the 102 did not make an appearance until 1980, prior to that the M115 was the I4 engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mercedes-Benz_engines Hendrik who used to own a 200 with 4sp man and a 230E with auto and later with a 5sp man box Robert Bigham wrote: I have a greymarket 1983 230E. It's fuel injected; that's what the E means. Einspritzmotor. As you may suspect, I've had to learn things about it that I didn't really want to know; the parts places (not Rusty) know nothing. MBUSA knows all about it. The dealers generally pull a Sergeant Schultz. It's not in their databases. To some, it's just a 240D in drag. The earlier, 1977-78 or so, cars were 230 without the E or maybe 200. Still a 102 engine. They had carburetors. 230, 230C, and 230 something else, IIRC. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com End of Mercedes Digest, Vol 50, Issue 156 * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] worst of its over
Good to hear, wishing you a speedy recovery. Allan -- 1983 300D Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: So its done, 3 stents in 2 different places. If it weren't for the pain in my leg and that I get dizzy quick I'd be outta here now. Thanks for all the kind words you lot. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] today's CL crack smoker
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1573901510.html Let's see... 200K miles, tree fell on it, AC doesn't work... and asking $4500 Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] this could be a good deal
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1573685028.html Would the reverse only works sometimes likely be something easy or bad news? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today's CL crack smoker
But But But And Has Less Then 200K Original Miles And Has Air Conditioner But Not Working At This Time. He Probably Has A Brain But It Is Not Working At This Time. ---R Allan Streib wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1573901510.html Let's see... 200K miles, tree fell on it, AC doesn't work... and asking $4500 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Motoroam, the legend continues.
That PHX one shows up from time to timeeach time with a little more done on iteach time with a little higher price. Still, it's sweet. Bob. R On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rolf wrote: Found one for sale in MN for $1500, he's had it listed forever and now it has some tree damage. My wife INSISTS I go get it... http://raleigh.craigslist.org/rvs/1565762829.html http://nh.craigslist.org/rvs/1571340270.html http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/rvs/1562076916.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] worst of its over
If Cathey had that done, we'd have a web log and 47 photos by now. Take care of yourself, pal. Bob R On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So its done, 3 stents in 2 different places. If it weren't for the pain in my leg and that I get dizzy quick I'd be outta here now. Thanks for all the kind words you lot. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today's CL crack smoker
HE IS NOT YELLING, REALLY...He Just Starts Each Word Loudly. Bob R On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: But But But And Has Less Then 200K Original Miles And Has Air Conditioner But Not Working At This Time. He Probably Has A Brain But It Is Not Working At This Time. ---R Allan Streib wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1573901510.html Let's see... 200K miles, tree fell on it, AC doesn't work... and asking $4500 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today's CL crack smoker
Maybe He Is A Close Talker Than. --R Bob Rentfro wrote: HE IS NOT YELLING, REALLY...He Just Starts Each Word Loudly. Bob R On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: But But But And Has Less Then 200K Original Miles And Has Air Conditioner But Not Working At This Time. He Probably Has A Brain But It Is Not Working At This Time. ---R Allan Streib wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/1573901510.html Let's see... 200K miles, tree fell on it, AC doesn't work... and asking $4500 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] worst of its over
Hi Curt, Welcome back, glad to see you back in circulation, no pun intended. The lesson here is if you feel a pain or something unusual... get it checked out. I just went thru a similar thing at the end of December... had a nagging pain in my leg, like a charley horse. It hung around for weeks, coming and going, and moving to different parts of my leg. I mostly ignored it, thinking it was just normal aches and pains from stuff I was doing. I justified it by thinking I overdid the snow shovelling last month, etc etc. Finally my wife and I decided to look up the symptoms on the internet, and discovered something called DVT: Deep Vein Thrombosis a blood clot. So I called my doctor, to get an appointment, and he told me to get to the Emergency Room NOW. Dont wait another minute. Sheesh. So I did, and sure enough they found a clot behind my knee. I am on blood thinners for a while, and hopefully it will diminish. The ER Doc made a comment that I was lucky that I felt the pain and responded. Do you know when we usually find the blood clots? At the autopsy. :) I had no idea that this pain could have been caused by a clot, nor any idea how one gets clots. But I got one. The danger is that if the clot gets above the knee, it can journey to the heart and the lungs, and things can get real serious real fast. I was lucky, but it was a close call. So for anyone else out there with a peculiar pain, particularly in the leg, get it checked. You never know. I look forward to seeing back at the ChowdahQ! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut Message: 11 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] worst of its over Message-ID: 461330.86358...@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So its done, 3 stents in 2 different places. If it weren't for the pain in my leg and that I get dizzy quick I'd be outta here now. Thanks for all the kind words you lot. -Curt _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this could be a good deal
That is not a good deal. Its about a 1k car. Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1573685028.html Would the reverse only works sometimes likely be something easy or bad news? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] worst of its over
Leg pain that feels like a cramp along with swelling means get to the ER fast. My mother did this a few years back while visiting my sister. I called to see how things were and she said her leg was bothering her, felt like a charlie horse starting the day before and it was swollen. I got my sister on the phone and told her to get Mom to the ER AT ONCE, don't play around, she has a clot,. Sure enough she did -- I should have gone to medical school when I was young, I suppose. I'd rather spend the time and $ to find out I was OK than end up with a massive stroke or pulmonary thrombosis -- I can earn more money if I'm still alive! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel line vs. brake line
As a general rule, is hose sold as fuel line, i.e. resistant to gas and diesel, also likely to be resistant to brake fluid? Do the two go hand in hand? I need to replace the hose that runs from the brake fluid reservoir to the clutch master cylinder on one of my Saab 900s (the one reservoir is shared across both hydraulic systems). It appears to be 7mm ID, the same size as the soft fuel lines in a lot of Bosch FI applications. I thought I would save some money by ordering a length of metric-sized fuel line (I can't find any locally) and using some of it here and some of it there. Thanks, Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Danish ad
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The page is .swf, but it embeds a .flv video. I use Downloadhelper to grab .flv video from Youtube, it also worked while viewing the link above. Cool, thanks, Mitch. That also worked with some other pages with Flash movies on them that I hadn't been able to grab with the tools I was using to save YouTube video. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum Leak Under Dash
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net You don't need to pull the dash, necessarily. IIRC you can access the vacuum valve cluster behind the ACC pushbutton unit, and you can do some further MityVac diagnosis there. Then, at least, you'd know more about what's really leaking. -- Jim ___ Thanks, Jim, I'll try that. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?
Some points apparently require additional clarification: -6cyl / 8cyl: it doesn't matter, they can all be converted to a spring. The hydropneumatic compensator has a variable spring rate because of the nitrogen gas, but its purpose was mostly levelling, not damping. The variable spring rate is not that different from a steel spring, witness the rear suspension on a TD (different devices but the same gas doing the work). -the compensator is still available from MB for about $1700. I verified this directly with the Classic Centre. They cannot, however, identify the production date of the part. Since at its core it is a nitrogen-filled bladder with some hydraulic fluid, it has a lifespan of 5 years before enough gas has escaped to begin compromising its function. That gas escapes whether or not the device is in use. I don't feel like handing over nearly $2k for something that might have been sitting on a shelf for ten years losing its gas charge. -the spring included in the conversion kit (which I bought from Rusty, but it is the same Febi kit sold everywhere) is too firm for the application (the EPC lists the included spring as being for increased ground clearance/HD). This is confirmed by checking the Febi numbers against the EPC. -the proper compensating spring, which I got from MB, is MUCH lighter gauge steel. The ride improved a bit with the softer spring, but no major change. -the only shocks available from Bilstein and from MB are HD. This is confirmed in the EPC, which shows the OE shocks being superceded to HD. I have bought and installed a new set (from Rusty) and they are in the car, and they suck. -the car is measured to be at the correct height. The springs are OK. If MB or Bilstein or Sachs still sold the original comfort shocks, I would not feel compelled to find an alternative. The point is to achieve a suspension behaviour that is closer to the original; one that is comfortable and well controlled, without being harsh and unyielding. D. At 11:39 PM + 1/26/10, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Message: 9 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:40:12 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni? Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001261440k13b6e498jce3f3ccedee72...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 he has an eight cylinder. he is doomed for spring. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I sell a conversion spring kit for $475.00 which works well, I have one in my 1969 280SEL. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni? i called a benz dealer and they seem to be NLA from mercedes. you will have to do some legwork or just give up and sell the car On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you can sit and adjust konis till the end of time and it will not help as shocks are not the issue. it's that you got rid of the compensator. that killed the ride. you need to put the compensator back on or sell the car. generally it's not a great idea to butcher these cars, but people do it anyway everyday. last i checked on those they were hellaciously expensive new. i don't buy from a benz dealer, so i wouldn't be able to source you one at a value price, but rusty does so he can easily get you one if they are still available. or maybe just start looking for a good used cheap one. i wish i had better news for you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?
dude, butchering the car with the spring damages the ride. people seem to complain about this a lot more the 8s than with 6s. this damage is done and the only real question is whether or not the consequences are acceptable to you or not. to my knowledge, no one has yet formulated a solution. i agree with you about spending that kind of mine on a compensator that might be largely spent to begin with is not a very happy plan. i couldn't see myself going for it. i am still contending, however, that if you did find softer shocks, they still will not be satisfactory to you. so far, all of the people i have spoken to with the experience and expertise to formulate a solution have been in agreement with me on this. i'd like to see a solution to this problem as i am a fan of these cars. i will keep looking and maybe i will get lucky and come across something worthwhile. as of right now, though, there is nothing i know of or anyone else here has been able to say that offers much optimism. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:58 AM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Some points apparently require additional clarification: -6cyl / 8cyl: it doesn't matter, they can all be converted to a spring. The hydropneumatic compensator has a variable spring rate because of the nitrogen gas, but its purpose was mostly levelling, not damping. The variable spring rate is not that different from a steel spring, witness the rear suspension on a TD (different devices but the same gas doing the work). -the compensator is still available from MB for about $1700. I verified this directly with the Classic Centre. They cannot, however, identify the production date of the part. Since at its core it is a nitrogen-filled bladder with some hydraulic fluid, it has a lifespan of 5 years before enough gas has escaped to begin compromising its function. That gas escapes whether or not the device is in use. I don't feel like handing over nearly $2k for something that might have been sitting on a shelf for ten years losing its gas charge. -the spring included in the conversion kit (which I bought from Rusty, but it is the same Febi kit sold everywhere) is too firm for the application (the EPC lists the included spring as being for increased ground clearance/HD). This is confirmed by checking the Febi numbers against the EPC. -the proper compensating spring, which I got from MB, is MUCH lighter gauge steel. The ride improved a bit with the softer spring, but no major change. -the only shocks available from Bilstein and from MB are HD. This is confirmed in the EPC, which shows the OE shocks being superceded to HD. I have bought and installed a new set (from Rusty) and they are in the car, and they suck. -the car is measured to be at the correct height. The springs are OK. If MB or Bilstein or Sachs still sold the original comfort shocks, I would not feel compelled to find an alternative. The point is to achieve a suspension behaviour that is closer to the original; one that is comfortable and well controlled, without being harsh and unyielding. D. At 11:39 PM + 1/26/10, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Message: 9 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:40:12 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni? Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001261440k13b6e498jce3f3ccedee72...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 he has an eight cylinder. he is doomed for spring. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I sell a conversion spring kit for $475.00 which works well, I have one in my 1969 280SEL. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni? i called a benz dealer and they seem to be NLA from mercedes. you will have to do some legwork or just give up and sell the car On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you can sit and adjust konis till the end of time and it will not help as shocks are not the issue. it's that you got rid of the compensator. that killed the ride. you need to put the compensator back on or sell the car. generally it's not a great idea to butcher these cars, but people do it anyway everyday. last i checked on those they were hellaciously expensive new. i don't buy from a benz dealer, so i wouldn't be able to source you one at a value price, but rusty does so he can easily get you one if they are still available. or maybe just start looking for a good used cheap one. i wish i had better news for you
[MBZ] W123 seat travel (or, my wife's legs have become shorter)
UPDATE After putting the seat back in the wagon, the bloody problem has become worse! So obviously all the messing around, shoving the seat back and forwards on the garage floor, has altered something. I noticed that the height adjustment would sometimes result in the seat skewing sideways. Mumblef*k, this is annoying me. Euan Original posting Colleagues Here's an odd thing. My wife (not the odd thing at all) has been complaining for a while that she can no longer reach the pedals in our 300TD, even with the driver's seat fully forward. I've taken the seat out and checked the tracking channels for coins, obstructions etc, but there appears to be no problem there. Lubricated everything. No change. However, the passenger seat has an extraordinary amount of travel by comparison. This may be normal, of course, since there is no steering wheel limiting the range of movement. Have you guys encountered similar problems? And do your W123 seats have similar or different degrees of front-and-back adjustment? Thanks Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 219K mi CHCH NZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com