Re: [MBZ] 124 rear subframe
that would be cool, send it my way Dieselhead wrote: Today I started the rear subframe bushing job on the 87 300D. Not too bad. As advertised, I was able to let one side hang after removing the bolts. I drilled out the rubber as much as I could reach with a 5/16 drill. Then I took a punch and beat the outer shell inward at a couple places. Then I drilled a 5/16 hole in the side of the "cup" where I punched it in. That allowed me to stick the punch in and pry the old mount out. (not that easy, but that is the general principle) On the second side, I got smart for the rear one. I figured out that the big washer from the front mount would pass through the hole on top of the rear mount. So, I let the side down, put the washer on top of the rear mount, then jacked up the subframe so that the washer pushed out the bushing. Seating the new bushings was a bit of a problem. I did not buy the megabuck official tools. On the first side, the front one was a problem to get seated. I gooped them up with slime (soap water) The front one seated most of the way, but I couldn't get it all the way in until I put the jack under the subframe right by the balky mount. I pushed the rear one up with the jack. On the second side, the front one popped right in, but the back one was balky. I put the jack under it and took the weight off the jackstands, then opened up the trunk, climbed up on the trunk ledge and bounced. That didn't seat it either. I ran it in as far as I could with the bolt, but it was short about 3/8" from seating. I ended up putting two 1/2" extensions under the frame and on top of the subframe, because i could not find a big enough stack of washers to drive it in with the bolt. With that spacer, I was able to draw the mount in with the bolt. I took some pictures, so the plan is to write it up with pictures so the listmom can archive it. I spent a total of 7 hours , but that included breaks and a trip to HF to see if they had something with big washers (no luck). Next time, I can probably do it in 4 hours or so. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 rear subframe
Today I started the rear subframe bushing job on the 87 300D. Not too bad. As advertised, I was able to let one side hang after removing the bolts. I drilled out the rubber as much as I could reach with a 5/16 drill. Then I took a punch and beat the outer shell inward at a couple places. Then I drilled a 5/16 hole in the side of the "cup" where I punched it in. That allowed me to stick the punch in and pry the old mount out. (not that easy, but that is the general principle) On the second side, I got smart for the rear one. I figured out that the big washer from the front mount would pass through the hole on top of the rear mount. So, I let the side down, put the washer on top of the rear mount, then jacked up the subframe so that the washer pushed out the bushing. Seating the new bushings was a bit of a problem. I did not buy the megabuck official tools. On the first side, the front one was a problem to get seated. I gooped them up with slime (soap water) The front one seated most of the way, but I couldn't get it all the way in until I put the jack under the subframe right by the balky mount. I pushed the rear one up with the jack. On the second side, the front one popped right in, but the back one was balky. I put the jack under it and took the weight off the jackstands, then opened up the trunk, climbed up on the trunk ledge and bounced. That didn't seat it either. I ran it in as far as I could with the bolt, but it was short about 3/8" from seating. I ended up putting two 1/2" extensions under the frame and on top of the subframe, because i could not find a big enough stack of washers to drive it in with the bolt. With that spacer, I was able to draw the mount in with the bolt. I took some pictures, so the plan is to write it up with pictures so the listmom can archive it. I spent a total of 7 hours , but that included breaks and a trip to HF to see if they had something with big washers (no luck). Next time, I can probably do it in 4 hours or so. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:03:40 -0400 "WILTON" wrote: > I do, but not because I'm sitting behind a three-pointed star. It's > because I'm no slouch. ;<))) Good one, Wilton! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sobering WW2 war photos
http://blogs.denverpost.com/captured/2010/03/18/captured-blog-the-pacific-and-adjacent-theaters/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures
That's ridiculous. I have a 79 Mark V but it's way nicer in metallic silver with red leather -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh MY, that is the worse I have EVER seen I think. I thought it was bad when they take them of the car sitting out in the street from their window of their house. Now THIS is bad. Alex Chamberlain wrote: > I thought it couldn't get any worse than some of the "eBay > Photographer of the Year" posts Kaleb makes, but I was wrong. > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1660928116.html > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date: 03/26/10 02:33:00 > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
I feel that you should always pass, or be driving in front of Caddies and Bimmers --- never following them. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:34 AM, R A Bennell wrote: > Oh, come - come, did you not know that you are entitled to hold your nose > high in the air while driving a Mercedes > even if it is a bit worn? "Beater" is just not acceptable. You need to > come up with something much more > appropriate. You need to think more in terms of "faithful" or "comfortable" > like your favourite old slippers or > your old but loyal dog. > > Randy > -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Check out the engine on this Model "A"
H -- "Mercedes rack & pinion Steering" On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:06 PM, WILTON wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1931-Ford-Model-A-Diesel-Pick-Up_W0QQitemZ120548433947QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item1c113f201b ___ -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
Randy wrote: > Of course, I don't have to merge onto the > Dan Ryan Expressway every morning on my way to work either. Neither do I - so I find 240D plenty adequate. And the 2-lane roads I travel in the 'burbs are just fine. If they want to pass me - make my day. The idiots all try to pass me where the road has double solid lines like they are all foreigners. Wait, maybe they are all foreigners? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh MY, that is the worse I have EVER seen I think. I thought it was bad when they take them of the car sitting out in the street from their window of their house. Now THIS is bad. Alex Chamberlain wrote: I thought it couldn't get any worse than some of the "eBay Photographer of the Year" posts Kaleb makes, but I was wrong. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1660928116.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2771 - Release Date: 03/26/10 02:33:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler/Maserati spawn
] There is a building material salvage yard here in Jacksonville that has [or had] a very nice design Jensen 'fastback' they were trying to sell. They wanted too much for it a few years ago [last time I was by there], but unfortunately it had been left sitting in the yard and had a couple of leaks. I didn't even bother opening it up to look at the inside. Would have been a nice looking "James Bond" car at one time. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler/Maserati spawn On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > A buddy of mine bought a Qporte cheap at some point in maybe early 90s, I > think it was a late 70s or something, the squarish wedgie sort of shape. It > had a Chrysler 440 or some such engine in it, and a lot of merkin parts > (though you had to do a lot of cross-ref to find the right bits). It was > scary fast but sucked gas like crazy. Last of the 70s muscle cars I guess > but quite cool. > Really? Interesting. Wikipedia says the '70s-'80s Quattroportes had various V-8s under the hood, but doesn't say who built them---I always assumed they were Maserati in-house designs like the v-6 in the Biturbo. Only weird cars I can think of from that era that I know used a Mopar big-block were assorted Bristols and the Jensen Interceptor. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Kit Cars, was: Best Porsches
I am again happy that I turned down that trade. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Kit Cars, was: Best Porsches On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Bill R wrote: > Gerry - I looked at trading my Caprice for one with a neighbor. IIRC, the > engine also had a Maserati nameplate in addition to some cosmetic Maserati > items. I don't know if it was an actual Maserati engine as he claimed, but I > ended up not making the trade. I think given Maserati's reputation for unreliability in the '80s, you'd be better off with the K-car engine that was in fact under the hood of the TC. What did the parody car-magazine site that Roger posted a link to a while back say about the Maserati Biturbo? Something like "By the strictest definition this is not an automobile, if the criteria for the latter include the capability of motion under its own power at least some of the time." Comedy gold. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
True. I wasn't thinking about it from that point of reference. Dan --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Mitch Haley wrote: From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 12:09 PM LWB250 wrote: > Only bummer is that it's a 79, meaning it's naturally/normally aspirated (no > turbo.) It will have a hard time getting out of it's own way. I thought a 88hp 300cd would blow the doors off a 240d. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
Still a nice car, as long as you only have one passenger. I had an 85 300CD that was a beautiful car, but I had kids back then, and it was a royal PITA to haul them around in it. Dan --- On Fri, 3/26/10, Mountain Man wrote: From: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 12:05 PM Dan wrote: > Only bummer is that it's a 79, meaning it's naturally/normally aspirated (no > turbo.) It will have a hard time getting out of it's own way. > I'm driving 240D currently. At least with this, I would have an additional cylinder, and 2 fewer doors. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD - speaking of slow
R A Bennell wrote: He says, "how can that be" and then he says "THEY LIED". The Jag won't do 150 mph and there is no way that the AM has that much HP. It was cute. Somewhere I've got my dad's issue of Mechanix Illustrated with Tom McCahill's test of the new fuel injected 1963 Corvette Stingrays. IIRC, he got 160+ mph in the coupe and around 150 in the ragtop. That would make the 1963 327 roadster equal to a 1984 350 coupe. I don't think so. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 13:58 -0600, "R A Bennell" wrote: > Maybe I am used to it but I don't really find my 76 300D all that slow. > Of course, I don't have to merge onto the > Dan Ryan Expressway every morning on my way to work either. Heh. When I lived in Chicago, morning expressway traffic averaged about 15 mph. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
I lean to the middle. --R Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: I hope no one is slouching when driving; one must sit erect behind the wheel of an MB! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more Oh, come - come, did you not know that you are entitled to hold your nose high in the air while driving a Mercedes even if it is a bit worn? "Beater" is just not acceptable. You need to come up with something much more appropriate. You need to think more in terms of "faithful" or "comfortable" like your favourite old slippers or your old but loyal dog. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more R A Bennell wrote: Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your ownership. Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I drive them not for the class status, but because they are well engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. I think the cable tie key is very fitting... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Check out the engine on this Model "A"
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Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
The next thing we know, you will be suggesting Shoe Goo and Microwave sheet metal. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more Me, too. It's a very good example of innovative, solid, common sense engineering. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more >> R A Bennell wrote: > >> Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You >> have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your >> ownership. > > Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I > drive them not for the class status, but because they are well > engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. > > I think the cable tie key is very fitting... > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
Oh come now, you are just defending your sacrilege. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more Me, too. It's a very good example of innovative, solid, common sense engineering. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more >> R A Bennell wrote: > >> Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You >> have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your >> ownership. > > Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I > drive them not for the class status, but because they are well > engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. > > I think the cable tie key is very fitting... > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD - speaking of slow
I saw a clip on the net last night relating to that British car show with Jeremy what's his name. They were talking about cool cars and he was test driving an early XKE Jag and an Aston Martin DB5 and commenting on the claims of the makers back when they were new. The Jag, it was claimed would top 150 mph and the DB5 was supposedly over 300 HP. They are on a track of some sort and he is running around squealing tires a bit etc. Then a new Honda Accord pulls up along side and he advises they are going to compare it with the cool cars and that the Honda is a 2.4 - so the 4 cylinder version. They all take off and the Honda runs away from the Jag and the Aston Martin. He says, "how can that be" and then he says "THEY LIED". The Jag won't do 150 mph and there is no way that the AM has that much HP. It was cute. Then he gets into the fact that there are companies that are re-doing these cars so that they will perform the way that the makers claimed they would. So, be warned - don't necessarily think your Honda can blow off a Jag. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
I do, but not because I'm sitting behind a three-pointed star. It's because I'm no slouch. ;<))) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more I hope no one is slouching when driving; one must sit erect behind the wheel of an MB! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more Oh, come - come, did you not know that you are entitled to hold your nose high in the air while driving a Mercedes even if it is a bit worn? "Beater" is just not acceptable. You need to come up with something much more appropriate. You need to think more in terms of "faithful" or "comfortable" like your favourite old slippers or your old but loyal dog. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more R A Bennell wrote: Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your ownership. Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I drive them not for the class status, but because they are well engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. I think the cable tie key is very fitting... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
Me, too. It's a very good example of innovative, solid, common sense engineering. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Fmiser" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more R A Bennell wrote: Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your ownership. Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I drive them not for the class status, but because they are well engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. I think the cable tie key is very fitting... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
Maybe I am used to it but I don't really find my 76 300D all that slow. Of course, I don't have to merge onto the Dan Ryan Expressway every morning on my way to work either. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 10:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown LWB250 wrote: > Only bummer is that it's a 79, meaning it's naturally/normally aspirated (no > turbo.) It will have a hard time getting out of it's own way. I thought a 88hp 300cd would blow the doors off a 240d. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures
The WINNER! -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures I thought it couldn't get any worse than some of the "eBay Photographer of the Year" posts Kaleb makes, but I was wrong. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1660928116.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I thought it couldn't get any worse than some of the "eBay Photographer of the Year" posts Kaleb makes, but I was wrong. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1660928116.html So, he couldn't figure out how to MMS the pics from cell phone to computer, or was too cheap to pay the data charges? If he had a digital camera to take a pic of a cell phone, why not use it to take a pic of the car? Was this a webcam? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting new way to post Craigslist pictures
I thought it couldn't get any worse than some of the "eBay Photographer of the Year" posts Kaleb makes, but I was wrong. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/1660928116.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel 1998 - $8500
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: > http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1661961758.html > Price is a little high, but not too bad if the spring perches are in good shape and if there are records showing just how "well cared for" it has been---as Wilton is fond of pointing out, that can mean very different things to different people. I am not a great fan of the W210's styling but I could definitely live with it in exchange for the turbo 606. Whee! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
LWB250 wrote: Only bummer is that it's a 79, meaning it's naturally/normally aspirated (no turbo.) It will have a hard time getting out of it's own way. I thought a 88hp 300cd would blow the doors off a 240d. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
Dan wrote: > Only bummer is that it's a 79, meaning it's naturally/normally aspirated (no > turbo.) It will have a hard time getting out of it's own way. > I'm driving 240D currently. At least with this, I would have an additional cylinder, and 2 fewer doors. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
Only bummer is that it's a 79, meaning it's naturally/normally aspirated (no turbo.) It will have a hard time getting out of it's own way. Dan --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Mitch Haley wrote: From: Mitch Haley Subject: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 8:59 PM This one isn't exactly local to me, but should be reasonably close to Esh. http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/1659197942.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
I hope no one is slouching when driving; one must sit erect behind the wheel of an MB! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 12:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more Oh, come - come, did you not know that you are entitled to hold your nose high in the air while driving a Mercedes even if it is a bit worn? "Beater" is just not acceptable. You need to come up with something much more appropriate. You need to think more in terms of "faithful" or "comfortable" like your favourite old slippers or your old but loyal dog. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more > R A Bennell wrote: > Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You have to > exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your ownership. Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I drive them not for the class status, but because they are well engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. I think the cable tie key is very fitting... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel 1998 - $8500
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1661961758.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
Oh, come - come, did you not know that you are entitled to hold your nose high in the air while driving a Mercedes even if it is a bit worn? "Beater" is just not acceptable. You need to come up with something much more appropriate. You need to think more in terms of "faithful" or "comfortable" like your favourite old slippers or your old but loyal dog. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Keys once more > R A Bennell wrote: > Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You > have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your > ownership. Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I drive them not for the class status, but because they are well engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. I think the cable tie key is very fitting... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UK car humor, again
Funny, I thought "AIR BLOWS ICE COLD" was a requirement tooespecially in the winter. Even my old 190Dc blew ICE COLD AIR for the first few minutes when it was below zero outside WITHOUT air conditioning. eBAY CRACKS DOWN ON CAR ADS Sniff, Friday, March 26th, 2010 at 3:08 am Popular internet auction site eBay has been forced to reinforce its guidelines for advertising cars following a recent string of complaints about inappropriate and incorrect listings. As a reflection of this new crackdown, earlier this week a handful of eBay car sellers received sternly worded warnings from the auction site's administrators. One such seller was Jackson Lisbo of Squirrelscock. "I was shocked when I got the warning about the ad for my MX5," Mr Lisbo said. "They told me the text in my ad was too well written, that it contained no massive chunks of pointless block capitals, and that none of the writing was inexplicably in red. They told me to re-read the guidelines, take some new photos of the car making sure that this time they were out of focus, and then re-list the car. I was shocked". eBay sources say the company has been forced to launch this crackdown in response to a small band of sellers who still believe the best way to sell a car is to give some actual information about it. "We're getting tired of these idiots who want to tell you things like mileage, service history, equipment levels and so on," said one eBay insider. "Until these people learn that the correct way to sell a car on our site is to write 'BRILENT CAR! FASTER THNA A FEISTA!!!' in red Comic Sans and accompany it with one blurry picture of the front three quarter taken at night on a mobile phone, then we have no option but to get tough with them". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Transmission issue
Mitch Haley wrote: I'm not sure what the difference are, but if I had any choice I'd go for the 82-84 turbo tranny if I were putting it on a 82-84 turbo car. The turbo makes a lot more torque than the 240D, so probably has higher hydraulic pressure to the clutches and much firmer shifts. The 240D torque converter might have too little resistance for a turbo too. Oops, I'm forgetting that the subject car is a 240D. Turbo tranny might deliver harsh shifts, which may or may not be easily softened with vacuum modulator adjustment. Turbo TQ might have a low stall speed when pitted against a 240D's meager low end torque, which could hamper off the line acceleration. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Transmission issue
Steve wrote: Does anyone know what the difference is from a 722 117 transmission from a 240D (1983) to a 722 118 out of a 300D? I have a opportunity to pick up the 722 118 for my 83, or I could get a 1984 transmission out of a 300D. I wonder if overall length may play a big part in this or gearing. I'm not sure what the difference are, but if I had any choice I'd go for the 82-84 turbo tranny if I were putting it on a 82-84 turbo car. The turbo makes a lot more torque than the 240D, so probably has higher hydraulic pressure to the clutches and much firmer shifts. The 240D torque converter might have too little resistance for a turbo too. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/1659197942.html '79 - is that non turbo? Non-turbo. They make nice-looking convertibles! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keys once more
> R A Bennell wrote: > Now, come, come, that just wouldn't do for a Mercedes. You > have to exhibit some class or we may have to revoke your > ownership. Heh. I don't have a single car that is clearly NOT a beater. I drive them not for the class status, but because they are well engineered, easy to work on, dependable, and diesel. I think the cable tie key is very fitting... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Chemistry...Revised announcement
Gerry wrote: Someone posted these revised announcements on a Libertarian email list: --- >> New Elements Discovered - Soon To Be Included On The Periodic Table: . >> Lawrence Livermore Laboratories has discovered the heaviest element yet >> known to science. >> >> The new element, Governmentium (Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant >> neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assistant >> deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic >> mass of 312. >> >> These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are >> surrounded by vast quantities of >> lepton-like particles called peons. >> >> Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert; however, it can be >> detected, because it impedes every reaction >> with which it comes into contact. A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause >> a reaction that would normally take less >> than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete. >> >> Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2 - 6 years. It does not decay, >> but instead undergoes a reorganization in >> which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange >> places. In fact, Governmentium's mass will >> actually increase over time, since each re-organization will cause more >> morons to become neutrons, forming >> isodopes. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to >> believe that Governmentium is formed >> whenever morons reach a critical concentration. >> >> This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical morass. >> >> When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an >> element that radiates just as much energy as >> Governmentium since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons ___ Another element, has just been discovered as well. Called corporatium, it's properties are almost the exact opposite of governmentium in that it sheds neutrons and peons so fast the morons become dominant and the element often self destructs. A third element called pentagonium is currently under investigation. Since it quickly swallows the taxium accumulated by governmentium, it is thought to be a black hole. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 300CD, price unknown
This is located about 40 miles from my home. I would be willing to take a look if someone is interested in purchasing this vehicle. I would also be willing to deliver for 25 cents a mile plus expenses or 50 cents per mile and I cover expenses. Mike On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Mitch wrote: This one isn't exactly local to me, but should be reasonably close to Esh. http://centralmich.craigslist.org/cto/1659197942.html '79 - is that non turbo? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] UK car humor, again
relng...@aol.com wrote: That was www.sniffpetrol.com eBAY CRACKS DOWN ON CAR ADS Sniff, Friday, March 26th, 2010 at 3:08 am Popular internet auction site eBay has been forced to reinforce its guidelines for advertising cars following a recent string of complaints about inappropriate and incorrect listings. As a reflection of this new crackdown, earlier this week a handful of eBay car sellers received sternly worded warnings from the auction site’s administrators. One such seller was Jackson Lisbo of Squirrelscock. “I was shocked when I got the warning about the ad for my MX5,” Mr Lisbo said. “They told me the text in my ad was too well written, that it contained no massive chunks of pointless block capitals, and that none of the writing was inexplicably in red. They told me to re-read the guidelines, take some new photos of the car making sure that this time they were out of focus, and then re-list the car. I was shocked”. eBay sources say the company has been forced to launch this crackdown in response to a small band of sellers who still believe the best way to sell a car is to give some actual information about it. “We’re getting tired of these idiots who want to tell you things like mileage, service history, equipment levels and so on,” said one eBay insider. “Until these people learn that the correct way to sell a car on our site is to write ‘BRILENT CAR! FASTER THNA A FEISTA!!!’ in red Comic Sans and accompany it with one blurry picture of the front three quarter taken at night on a mobile phone, then we have no option but to get tough with them”. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
