Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
I want one. --R On 1/19/2011 8:14 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Best mileage car is NOT a hybrid http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/ It is also NOT a supermileage car, but a car that may be adapted for production. It gets mileage similar to a supermileage car. Article sez it was in production last year, but I don't think so. http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Did a cold chill run down your spine when you read '3.5 liter turbocharged six cylinder diesel engine'? (yes, I know it's completely unrelated to the last S350 diesel, with the exception of the tristar logo) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Dieselhead wrote: Best mileage car is NOT a hybrid http://gas2.org/2008/03/12/the-worlds-most-fuel-efficient-car-285-mpg-not-a-hybrid/ It is also NOT a supermileage car, but a car that may be adapted for production. It gets mileage similar to a supermileage car. Article sez it was in production last year, but I don't think so. Was slated for limited production in 2010, then put off until 2013. Here's the revised version, apparently 'Hybrid' sounds so much better than 'diesel', and they decided that 120kph top speed didn't cut it. Performance on this one is similar to the original 300SD. I don't know what's up with the horsepower, a 1.6L TDI makes more than 58 ponies. (various versions rated 74 to 103hp) The second Volkswagen 1-litre car, named 'L1', released at the 2009 Frankfurt Motor Show, has a curb weight of 381 kg (840 lb), coefficient of drag of 0.195, and fuel efficiency of 1.38 L/100 km (170 mpg-US) with CO2 emissions of 39 g/km. It uses one half of a 1.6-litre TDI engine in a hybrid installation. The 800 cm3, twin-cylinder, common-rail, turbodiesel is joined by a 10.4 kW (14 bhp) electric motor. The engine operates in two modes with the eco mode giving 5.2 kW (7 bhp) and sport mode 21.6 kW (29 bhp), the electric motor provides extra acceleration and can power the L1 on its own for short distances. The L1 can achieve a top speed of 158 km/h (99 mph), with 0–100 km/h (0-62 mph) acceleration in 14.3 s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Good practices will yield 1 to 1.5 tons per acre on a fairly sustainable basis. (1/3 removal; 2/3 left as soil cover) I am not a big fan of corn stover or corn as ethanol feedstocks. The big problem is the baling and transportation costs of corn stover. It is viable, and with this new process, the stover will yield 90 to 100 gal per ton of feedstock. Because of the bulk and resultant transportation cost, small localized plants make sense. 50 to 100 million GPY plants are nuts for cellulosic feedstocks. The concept of a 1.5 to 6 MM GPY Biodiesel plus 1.5 to 20 MM GPY ethanol PLUS solid fuel pelletizing on a biofuels campus for local use makes sense. The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. Allan Streib wrote: Is there really enough waste cellulose to support the process? Growing plants to turn them into ethanol turns out to be a net energy loss I think. We use corn seed now. These days, a good acre of corn might have 200 bushel of seed, and how many tons of stalks? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Those wheels are almost big enough for Wilton's taste. Allan On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:23 -0500, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I want one. --R On 1/19/2011 8:14 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Yeah, 'my first thought, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor. Those wheels are almost big enough for Wilton's taste. Allan On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:23 -0500, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I want one. --R On 1/19/2011 8:14 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - MLK
On 01/17/2011 03:55 PM, Dieselhead wrote: some perceived wrong 150 years ago. Wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT)
as suspected, this wasn't quite true,... Snopes has updated its page to state there is no new bill, and show a listing of the 2010 vs 2011 fines; there's barely any difference. http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/california2011.asp cheers! e On 17/Jan/11 11:05, ernest breakfield wrote: Larry, what's the source for this info? Google shows variations of the same info parroted all over the 'net, but i haven't been able to verify it anywhere on the CA DMV site,... (FWIW, Snopes hasn't been able to verify it either, and as of this morning still lists it as Undetermined.) http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/california2011.asp cheers! e On 13/Jan/11 09:40, LarryT wrote: HUGE California Traffic Tickets Fines Effective 01/06/2011. Please be extremely careful in your driving and car registration insurance matters. State of California is broke and they are trying hard to squeeze all of us hard to collect money. Effective immediately, if you do not stop at the red light, be ready to pay $436 in fines or if you pass a school bus with flashing red signals, you will be charged $616. The state of California is going for blood, so be extra careful in driving, You cannot afford messing with them. I have been hearing that Highway Patrols are under pressure to issue a lot more tickets than last year with at least 30% increase in fines over 2009, so beware of radar guns, highway and traffic cameras installed everywhere and the tougher enforcement of parking rules.Just for your info, the next time you park in the handicapped zone, even for a minute, you will be looking at almost $ 1000 in parking tickets , so it'd better be worth it.California needs money, so pay close attention to the rules of the road! I haven't checked Scopes yet == Traffic Ticket Fines (Effective 01/06/2011) VC 12814.6 $214 Failure to obey license provisions. VC 14600(A) $214 Failure to notify DMV of address change within 10 daysNote: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 16028(A) $796 Failure to provide evidence of financial responsibility (insurance) Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the violation date. VC 21453(A) $436 Failure to stop at a red signal. VC 22349 $214 Unsafe speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit. VC 22350 $328 Unsafe speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit. VC 22450 $214 Failure to stop at a stop sign. VC 22454(A) $616 Passing a school bus with flashing red signals. VC 23123(A) $148 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, first offense . VC 23123( $256 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, each subsequent offense. VC 23123.5 $148 Driving while using a wireless device to send, read or write text. VC 23124 $148 Minor driving while using a wireless phone. VC 22500 $976 Parking in a bus loading area. VC 22507(A) $976 Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense. VC 22507( $1876 Violation of disabled parking provisions, second offense. VC 26708 $178 Unlawful material on vehicle windows. VC 27150 $178 Adequate muffler required. VC 27315 $148 Mandatory use of seat belts. VC 27360 $436 Mandatory use of passenger child restraints. Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child seat diversion program. VC 27400 $178 Headsets or Earplugs covering both ears. VC 27803 $178 Violation of motorcycle safety helmet requirements. VC 34506 $616 Commercial Driver - Log book violation. VC 4000 $256 No evidence of current registration. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 4159 $178 Notify DMV of change of address within 10 days. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 5200 $178 Proper display of license plates. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 9400 $178 Commercial weight fees due. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction Look out for the money grabbers in Sacramento but don`t blame the cops. They don't set the fines or collect them! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT)
as suspected, this wasn't quite true,... Snopes has updated its page to state there is no new bill, and show a listing of the 2010 vs 2011 fines; there's barely any difference. http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/california2011.asp cheers! e On 17/Jan/11 11:05, ernest breakfield wrote: Larry, what's the source for this info? Google shows variations of the same info parroted all over the 'net, but i haven't been able to verify it anywhere on the CA DMV site,... (FWIW, Snopes hasn't been able to verify it either, and as of this morning still lists it as Undetermined.) http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/california2011.asp cheers! e On 13/Jan/11 09:40, LarryT wrote: HUGE California Traffic Tickets Fines Effective 01/06/2011. Please be extremely careful in your driving and car registration insurance matters. State of California is broke and they are trying hard to squeeze all of us hard to collect money. Effective immediately, if you do not stop at the red light, be ready to pay $436 in fines or if you pass a school bus with flashing red signals, you will be charged $616. The state of California is going for blood, so be extra careful in driving, You cannot afford messing with them. I have been hearing that Highway Patrols are under pressure to issue a lot more tickets than last year with at least 30% increase in fines over 2009, so beware of radar guns, highway and traffic cameras installed everywhere and the tougher enforcement of parking rules.Just for your info, the next time you park in the handicapped zone, even for a minute, you will be looking at almost $ 1000 in parking tickets , so it'd better be worth it.California needs money, so pay close attention to the rules of the road! I haven't checked Scopes yet == Traffic Ticket Fines (Effective 01/06/2011) VC 12814.6 $214 Failure to obey license provisions. VC 14600(A) $214 Failure to notify DMV of address change within 10 daysNote: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 16028(A) $796 Failure to provide evidence of financial responsibility (insurance) Note: This fine may be reduced with proof of insurance on or after the violation date. VC 21453(A) $436 Failure to stop at a red signal. VC 22349 $214 Unsafe speed, 1 to 15 miles over the limit. VC 22350 $328 Unsafe speed, 16 to 25 miles over the limit. VC 22450 $214 Failure to stop at a stop sign. VC 22454(A) $616 Passing a school bus with flashing red signals. VC 23123(A) $148 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, first offense . VC 23123( $256 Driving while using a wireless phone not hands free, each subsequent offense. VC 23123.5 $148 Driving while using a wireless device to send, read or write text. VC 23124 $148 Minor driving while using a wireless phone. VC 22500 $976 Parking in a bus loading area. VC 22507(A) $976 Violation of disabled parking provisions, first offense. VC 22507( $1876 Violation of disabled parking provisions, second offense. VC 26708 $178 Unlawful material on vehicle windows. VC 27150 $178 Adequate muffler required. VC 27315 $148 Mandatory use of seat belts. VC 27360 $436 Mandatory use of passenger child restraints. Note: This fine may be reduced by completing a court authorized child seat diversion program. VC 27400 $178 Headsets or Earplugs covering both ears. VC 27803 $178 Violation of motorcycle safety helmet requirements. VC 34506 $616 Commercial Driver - Log book violation. VC 4000 $256 No evidence of current registration. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 4159 $178 Notify DMV of change of address within 10 days. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 5200 $178 Proper display of license plates. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction. VC 9400 $178 Commercial weight fees due. Note: The fine may be reduced with valid proof of correction Look out for the money grabbers in Sacramento but don`t blame the cops. They don't set the fines or collect them! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
I got a tingle down my leg. --R On 1/19/2011 9:19 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Did a cold chill run down your spine when you read '3.5 liter turbocharged six cylinder diesel engine'? (yes, I know it's completely unrelated to the last S350 diesel, with the exception of the tristar logo) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Rich Thomas wrote: I got a tingle down my leg. If they're gonna splay the cylinders in a vee, I'll take the 420 CDI instead of the 350. (but I'd rather have the straight six) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT)
They still might be ticketing more aggressively. The purpose of a traffic fines is not supposed to be revenue generation, but the reality is they are. Most people pay their fines without going to court, so the cost to issue a ticket is 10 minutes of the officer's time plus some bookkeeping... not likely to amount to hundreds of dollars. Allan On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:59 -0800, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: as suspected, this wasn't quite true,... Snopes has updated its page to state there is no new bill, and show a listing of the 2010 vs 2011 fines; there's barely any difference. http://www.snopes.com/politics/traffic/california2011.asp cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ticketing (was: Re: New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT))
On 19/Jan/11 08:58, Allan Streib wrote: They still might be ticketing more aggressively. might be, but none of the guys in any of the agencies i've worked with have told me they've actually been directed to do so. fact is, many agencies have fewer guys/gals to do the same job these days, and enforcement seems to actually be declining. (i'm all for enforcement of better driving; most US drivers i see are terribly unqualified to be piloting a multi-ton vehicle in a public space. The purpose of a traffic fines is not supposed to be revenue generation, but the reality is they are. i wonder; i'd like to see the numbers on that. as administration-heavy as the processing of a traffic stop is, i'd be surprised they're really making much (if any) money on the process for any but the most expensive fines (and those citations are the rarest). Most people pay their fines without going to court, so the cost to issue a ticket is 10 minutes of the officer's time plus some bookkeeping... not likely to amount to hundreds of dollars. i question that, too; i rarely see a traffic stop go down that swiftly, and their time isn't cheap. frankly, while more people are feeling the financial squeeze, i'd expect more of them to be contesting their tickets, too. it's relatively cheap and easy to do considering the consequences, and i find it's been rare that i don't win when i do. (i've paid the ones i outright deserved, but i knew what i was risking when i got caught.) cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketing (was: Re: New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT))
I think another thing that has driven many into the courts, is when they started to link fines and a point system, directly with the insurance industry, and pretty much allowing them the freedom to charge what they want. (We have no fault insurance here, which means many of the good drivers pay far more than they should, to subsidize, less well off, and less capable drivers' right to drive). I feel many would pay speeding fines, even though they can be excessively high here, for what at times is not much over the limit. But the increase in insurance rates that follow, which continues on for years after such a ticket is paid, almost makes going to court and fighting it, a non option for many. As you said, we often know when we've over the limit, and must be accountable for our own actions. The question is, does doing 10-15 mph over, warrant a $1000-1500 increase in insurance premiums per year, for many years, all justified, as you are now a high risk driver, and your behaviour was unsafe? Processing a ticket does have administrative costs associated with it, but don't think there isn't money, and a lot of it, being made at this game! Ed 300E On 19 January 2011 13:21, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: On 19/Jan/11 08:58, Allan Streib wrote: They still might be ticketing more aggressively. might be, but none of the guys in any of the agencies i've worked with have told me they've actually been directed to do so. fact is, many agencies have fewer guys/gals to do the same job these days, and enforcement seems to actually be declining. (i'm all for enforcement of better driving; most US drivers i see are terribly unqualified to be piloting a multi-ton vehicle in a public space. The purpose of a traffic fines is not supposed to be revenue generation, but the reality is they are. i wonder; i'd like to see the numbers on that. as administration-heavy as the processing of a traffic stop is, i'd be surprised they're really making much (if any) money on the process for any but the most expensive fines (and those citations are the rarest). Most people pay their fines without going to court, so the cost to issue a ticket is 10 minutes of the officer's time plus some bookkeeping... not likely to amount to hundreds of dollars. i question that, too; i rarely see a traffic stop go down that swiftly, and their time isn't cheap. frankly, while more people are feeling the financial squeeze, i'd expect more of them to be contesting their tickets, too. it's relatively cheap and easy to do considering the consequences, and i find it's been rare that i don't win when i do. (i've paid the ones i outright deserved, but i knew what i was risking when i got caught.) cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketing (was: Re: New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT))
Just had a very close call on the black 91 350SDL; 'was approaching red light in left turn lane; maybe 15 to 20 mph; suddenly a car came around the corner from my right making a left turn; going too fast; 'came toward me in my left turn lane; I stopped very abruptly and was bracing for head-on impact; other driver yanked it hard to the right at last second; not much more than a coat of paint between side of his car and left front corner of my car; lucky, lucky, lucky. BTW, he kept right on going - still too fast. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ticketing (was: Re: New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT)) I think another thing that has driven many into the courts, is when they started to link fines and a point system, directly with the insurance industry, and pretty much allowing them the freedom to charge what they want. (We have no fault insurance here, which means many of the good drivers pay far more than they should, to subsidize, less well off, and less capable drivers' right to drive). I feel many would pay speeding fines, even though they can be excessively high here, for what at times is not much over the limit. But the increase in insurance rates that follow, which continues on for years after such a ticket is paid, almost makes going to court and fighting it, a non option for many. As you said, we often know when we've over the limit, and must be accountable for our own actions. The question is, does doing 10-15 mph over, warrant a $1000-1500 increase in insurance premiums per year, for many years, all justified, as you are now a high risk driver, and your behaviour was unsafe? Processing a ticket does have administrative costs associated with it, but don't think there isn't money, and a lot of it, being made at this game! Ed 300E On 19 January 2011 13:21, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: On 19/Jan/11 08:58, Allan Streib wrote: They still might be ticketing more aggressively. might be, but none of the guys in any of the agencies i've worked with have told me they've actually been directed to do so. fact is, many agencies have fewer guys/gals to do the same job these days, and enforcement seems to actually be declining. (i'm all for enforcement of better driving; most US drivers i see are terribly unqualified to be piloting a multi-ton vehicle in a public space. The purpose of a traffic fines is not supposed to be revenue generation, but the reality is they are. i wonder; i'd like to see the numbers on that. as administration-heavy as the processing of a traffic stop is, i'd be surprised they're really making much (if any) money on the process for any but the most expensive fines (and those citations are the rarest). Most people pay their fines without going to court, so the cost to issue a ticket is 10 minutes of the officer's time plus some bookkeeping... not likely to amount to hundreds of dollars. i question that, too; i rarely see a traffic stop go down that swiftly, and their time isn't cheap. frankly, while more people are feeling the financial squeeze, i'd expect more of them to be contesting their tickets, too. it's relatively cheap and easy to do considering the consequences, and i find it's been rare that i don't win when i do. (i've paid the ones i outright deserved, but i knew what i was risking when i got caught.) cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketing
Sounds like a normal day in Miami Just had a very close call on the black 91 350SDL; 'was approaching red light in left turn lane; maybe 15 to 20 mph; suddenly a car came around the corner from my right making a left turn; going too fast; 'came toward me in my left turn lane; I stopped very abruptly and was bracing for head-on impact; other driver yanked it hard to the right at last second; not much more than a coat of paint between side of his car and left front corner of my car; lucky, lucky, lucky. BTW, he kept right on going - still too fast. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketing
Dieselhead wrote: Sounds like a normal day in Miami A friend of mine in Lady Lake complains that some other geezer tries to kill him at least once every time he goes shopping. One time he called me from a Wal-Mart parking lot, and thought somebody was going to hit him while he sat in a parked car talking on the phone. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketing (was: Re: New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT))
Glad to hear you and the tank made it through that one ok, sounds too close! Ed 300E On 19 January 2011 15:46, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Just had a very close call on the black 91 350SDL; 'was approaching red light in left turn lane; maybe 15 to 20 mph; suddenly a car came around the corner from my right making a left turn; going too fast; 'came toward me in my left turn lane; I stopped very abruptly and was bracing for head-on impact; other driver yanked it hard to the right at last second; not much more than a coat of paint between side of his car and left front corner of my car; lucky, lucky, lucky. BTW, he kept right on going - still too fast. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ticketing (was: Re: New Laws in Calif to estabish [sic] HIGHER fines (BS ALERT)) I think another thing that has driven many into the courts, is when they started to link fines and a point system, directly with the insurance industry, and pretty much allowing them the freedom to charge what they want. (We have no fault insurance here, which means many of the good drivers pay far more than they should, to subsidize, less well off, and less capable drivers' right to drive). I feel many would pay speeding fines, even though they can be excessively high here, for what at times is not much over the limit. But the increase in insurance rates that follow, which continues on for years after such a ticket is paid, almost makes going to court and fighting it, a non option for many. As you said, we often know when we've over the limit, and must be accountable for our own actions. The question is, does doing 10-15 mph over, warrant a $1000-1500 increase in insurance premiums per year, for many years, all justified, as you are now a high risk driver, and your behaviour was unsafe? Processing a ticket does have administrative costs associated with it, but don't think there isn't money, and a lot of it, being made at this game! Ed 300E On 19 January 2011 13:21, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: On 19/Jan/11 08:58, Allan Streib wrote: They still might be ticketing more aggressively. might be, but none of the guys in any of the agencies i've worked with have told me they've actually been directed to do so. fact is, many agencies have fewer guys/gals to do the same job these days, and enforcement seems to actually be declining. (i'm all for enforcement of better driving; most US drivers i see are terribly unqualified to be piloting a multi-ton vehicle in a public space. The purpose of a traffic fines is not supposed to be revenue generation, but the reality is they are. i wonder; i'd like to see the numbers on that. as administration-heavy as the processing of a traffic stop is, i'd be surprised they're really making much (if any) money on the process for any but the most expensive fines (and those citations are the rarest). Most people pay their fines without going to court, so the cost to issue a ticket is 10 minutes of the officer's time plus some bookkeeping... not likely to amount to hundreds of dollars. i question that, too; i rarely see a traffic stop go down that swiftly, and their time isn't cheap. frankly, while more people are feeling the financial squeeze, i'd expect more of them to be contesting their tickets, too. it's relatively cheap and easy to do considering the consequences, and i find it's been rare that i don't win when i do. (i've paid the ones i outright deserved, but i knew what i was risking when i got caught.) cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fines for use of cell phone without hands free device?? One law for them and..........
The bottom line is that they know most of us can do it too but there are enough jerks and incompetents out there to make it unsafe for all of us to do so and rather than ticket the ones who are not good at it, they choose to prevent all of us from doing so. I guess it is sort of like racial profiling. Got to search everyone at the airport too even though very few white grannies blow up planes. Randy On 18/01/2011 7:53 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: So why can cops (et al) manage to drive and talk on the phone while the rest of us are classed as homicidal maniacs if we blah blah on the mobile? I know some may say they have advanced driver training but there is no law I am aware of that gives you an exemption if you have completed an advanced driver course. My money is on revenue raising, make everything illegal and it's easy to fill the coffers with the cash. Hendrik who has a CDL and quite a few miles under the wheels but is not allowed to talk on the phone and drive but can eat a sandwich, drink coffee and have a ciggy ernest breakfield wrote: the same exemption for cops (and some Emergency Services workers) to use cell phones while driving exists in at least some US states as well. the premise is that there is some information they'd rather not share on airwaves where people can listen in as easily (even though it's not as simple to listen in on many agencies with a scanner these days with all their trunking systems,...). cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [Fwd: mercedes turbo diesel engine - $1500]
Is this guy on crack or what? Original Message Subject:mercedes turbo diesel engine - $1500 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:14:10 -0800 (PST) From: okieb...@striplin.net To: okieb...@striplin.net okieb...@striplin.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://rockford.craigslist.org/pts/2169083913.html to contact the person who posted this. mercedes turbo diesel engine Date: 2011-01-19, 2:08PM 1991 partially rebuilt 3.5 liter inline six cylinder turbo diesel motor, I purchased this engine for $3500. I discovered after the fact that a rod needed repair.This is a complete motor with fuel injector pump, manifolds, urbo charger. etc. I believe it was a remanufacured long block purchased from mercedes. it's possible that the crank was was faulty when rebuilt. II had the motor running when the knock was discovered. The motor can be seen in Richmond area. asking $1500 OBO. * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://rockford.craigslist.org/pts/2169083913.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX183MTMyNzEzMn2p1HtxitcThPX0OWBtejsbiUPesNDFZCxEcRIX0QOVRx3-3QRGo2EnKbFQvyQizw ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: mercedes turbo diesel engine - $1500]
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Is this guy on crack or what? A professionally rebuilt rodbender that still has the bent rod in it? No wonder Herr Doktor Booth used to think that only a factory rebuild was usable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: mercedes turbo diesel engine - $1500]
yea, and the guy wants $1500 for it. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Is this guy on crack or what? A professionally rebuilt rodbender that still has the bent rod in it? No wonder Herr Doktor Booth used to think that only a factory rebuild was usable. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: mercedes turbo diesel engine - $1500]
Kaleb. IF it was a KD engine block etc. and the assembler was competent, it could be a plugged injector as they do sound a lot like a bad rod bearing. Yeah right! Who am I kidding! The truth is out there. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/19/2011 7:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: mercedes turbo diesel engine Date: 2011-01-19, 2:08PM 1991 partially rebuilt 3.5 liter inline six cylinder turbo diesel motor, I purchased this engine for $3500. I discovered after the fact that a rod needed repair.This is a complete motor with fuel injector pump, manifolds, urbo charger. etc. I believe it was a remanufacured long block purchased from mercedes. it's possible that the crank was was faulty when rebuilt. II had the motor running when the knock was discovered. The motor can be seen in Richmond area. asking $1500 OBO. * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://rockford.craigslist.org/pts/2169083913.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: mercedes turbo diesel engine - $1500]
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, and the guy wants $1500 for it. He doesn't realize that it's worth less after rebuild and 2nd failure than it was before the rebuild? Before the rebuild, it was a failed engine. Now it's a failed engine that's also been molested by an idiot posing as a mechanic. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: I THINK YOU ARE DOING THAT WRONG
I was going to say something but am not on banned so won't. Hendrik Gerry Archer wrote: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: unknown2121.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 75946 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110117/7c11c0d6/attachment-0020.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting Seats....PHX CL
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/2168125812.html what the heck? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Dieselhead wrote: The concept of a 1.5 to 6 MM GPY Biodiesel plus 1.5 to 20 MM GPY ethanol PLUS solid fuel pelletizing on a biofuels campus for local use makes sense. The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. Good use of local. Add to this list of local - the reality that local management and ownership needs to happen - not some ADM multi-national type Cargill or Monsanto or WasteManagement operation. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] HELP from Microsoft for MB owners
For all you SDL owners, and reformed former SDL owners: I had to show y'all this quote from the redmond report [Microsoft] also announced that it would begin offering SDL consulting services, which Microsoft contends will give folks an opportunity to fully understand what they want to get out of the SDL experience. Hey, MB never offered SDL consulting service, to fully understand what they want to get out of the SDL experience. x ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Exactly! Each has to be locally owned, that was the second of three locals. Local feedstock, local ownership, local use Congratulations! You are the first on the list to get it, Chairman Mao! Dieselhead wrote: The concept of a 1.5 to 6 MM GPY Biodiesel plus 1.5 to 20 MM GPY ethanol PLUS solid fuel pelletizing on a biofuels campus for local use makes sense. The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. Good use of local. Add to this list of local - the reality that local management and ownership needs to happen - not some ADM multi-national type Cargill or Monsanto or WasteManagement operation. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
Yes, it did. But - WHY did they make it so UGLY? On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Did a cold chill run down your spine when you read '3.5 liter turbocharged six cylinder diesel engine'? (yes, I know it's completely unrelated to the last S350 diesel, with the exception of the tristar logo) Mitch. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: I THINK YOU ARE DOING THAT WRONG
I will then - Numbers 8 and 16 could well have been taken in Oklahoma! On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: I was going to say something but am not on banned so won't. Hendrik Gerry Archer wrote: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: unknown2121.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 75946 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110117/7c11c0d6/attachment-0020.jpg ___ -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aluminum V-6
...If they're gonna splay the cylinders in a vee, I'll take the 420 CDI instead of the 350. (but I'd rather have the straight six).. There is no straight sixanymore. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Dieselhead wrote: The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. *ding* *ding* Local. _That_ is what I really want to see. Opposite the big business, big government, big-is-better trend. Big is good for some things - but not _everything_. I see that as a benefit with algae. And if your method benefits from that approach too, I'm all for it. I'm not fond of licensed process or patented organism, though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Steam train
It looks like Union Pacific will be running an excursion with a steam engine. Little Rock AR to Kansas City via St. Louis. http://upexcursion.com/ -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Seats....PHX CL
'Came this way last week, didn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] Interesting SeatsPHX CL http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/2168125812.html what the heck? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Who would eat anything but local produce... Economy of scale may have it's applications... and I suppose marketing can broaden those applications by conflating quantity with quantity... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jan 19, 2011, at 22:12, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dieselhead wrote: The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. *ding* *ding* Local. _That_ is what I really want to see. Opposite the big business, big government, big-is-better trend. Big is good for some things - but not _everything_. I see that as a benefit with algae. And if your method benefits from that approach too, I'm all for it. I'm not fond of licensed process or patented organism, though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Seats....PHX CL
actually I think that one last week was a 190, right? this looks like a 300E or something dontcha think? Bob R On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:17 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Came this way last week, didn't it? Wilton - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] Interesting SeatsPHX CL http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/2168125812.html what the heck? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Do you think it is right to steal something that someone has worked on for 20 years? I don't. The guy who developed the process is one of the most upstanding people you will find. I have no problem paying him for the process license and or having him own a percentage. If I had developed the process, I would want the same thing. Dieselhead wrote: The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. *ding* *ding* Local. _That_ is what I really want to see. Opposite the big business, big government, big-is-better trend. Big is good for some things - but not _everything_. I see that as a benefit with algae. And if your method benefits from that approach too, I'm all for it. I'm not fond of licensed process or patented organism, though. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Of course the ATF will have its hand in your local business if you're making ethanol. Allan On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:38 -0600, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly! Each has to be locally owned, that was the second of three locals. Local feedstock, local ownership, local use Congratulations! You are the first on the list to get it, Chairman Mao! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steam train
Very cool. I love steam engines. On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:15 -0600, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like Union Pacific will be running an excursion with a steam engine. Little Rock AR to Kansas City via St. Louis. http://upexcursion.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:23 -0500, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Who would eat anything but local produce... Um, people who want fresh food out of season? I can't buy local lettuce in Indiana in January. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] local produce?
..Who would eat anything but local produce... Purty clear you don't do the grocery shopping. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HELP from Microsoft for MB owners
Maybe it has something to do with their software bending the rods in your computer or something. --R On 1/19/2011 7:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: For all you SDL owners, and reformed former SDL owners: I had to show y'all this quote from the redmond report [Microsoft] also announced that it would begin offering SDL consulting services, which Microsoft contends will give folks an opportunity to fully understand what they want to get out of the SDL experience. Hey, MB never offered SDL consulting service, to fully understand what they want to get out of the SDL experience. x ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: I THINK YOU ARE DOING THAT WRONG
Come to the dark side, Luke... --R On 1/19/2011 8:05 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: I was going to say something but am not on banned so won't. Hendrik Gerry Archer wrote: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: unknown2121.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 75946 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110117/7c11c0d6/attachment-0020.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting Seats....PHX CL
Will trade for casket --R On 1/19/2011 8:38 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/2168125812.html what the heck? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HELP from Microsoft for MB owners
Wissta and ME would be two examples of M$ rodbenders. Maybe it has something to do with their software bending the rods in your computer or something. --R On 1/19/2011 7:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: For all you SDL owners, and reformed former SDL owners: I had to show y'all this quote from the redmond report [Microsoft] also announced that it would begin offering SDL consulting services, which Microsoft contends will give folks an opportunity to fully understand what they want to get out of the SDL experience. Hey, MB never offered SDL consulting service, to fully understand what they want to get out of the SDL experience. x ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aluminum V-6
05 was the last year for the MB I6..unlike B*W who has stayed true to form. John On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...If they're gonna splay the cylinders in a vee, I'll take the 420 CDI instead of the 350. (but I'd rather have the straight six).. There is no straight sixanymore. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel S Class making a comeback for the poor.
UGLY, are you kidding? This latest S Class has been the best selling S class in the history of MB. For the first time ever, they have outsold the Lexus and the Audi A8 combined. OK, I am prejudiced as I have had my 07 for 3 weeks now and just had to have one for the styling, features and interior comfortwonderful car! Of course I wouldn't have bought it without the 3 year CPO warranty! John On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:47 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it did. But - WHY did they make it so UGLY? On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: http://gas2.org/2011/01/11/mercedes-reveals-diesel-flagship-for-2012/ Did a cold chill run down your spine when you read '3.5 liter turbocharged six cylinder diesel engine'? (yes, I know it's completely unrelated to the last S350 diesel, with the exception of the tristar logo) Mitch. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel shi**ing bug.
Dieselhead wrote: The concept is local inputs, local outputs for local use and local ownership. Each site adapted for local feedstocks and consumption makes economic sense. fmiser wrote: Local. _That_ is what I really want to see. Opposite the big business, big government, big-is-better trend. Big is good for some things - but not _everything_. I see that as a benefit with algae. And if your method benefits from that approach too, I'm all for it. I'm not fond of licensed process or patented organism, though. Dieselhead replied: Do you think it is right to steal something that someone has worked on for 20 years? I don't. Wow! Your jumpy tonght. :) I did not say anything about unlawful use of an idea or process. I did not suggest that anyone else should. I did not say patents and licences are evil. I did not say the developer should not be paid for his effort. The guy who developed the process is one of the most upstanding people you will find. I have no problem paying him for the process license and or having him own a percentage. So maybe he is a good guy. And honest. And he has it at a reasonabl price. But tomorrow he may sell/be forced to sell/overtaken by ADM. And it doesn't take much research to discover how big a bully ADM is. But if they own the rights, it just to bad for the rest of us - 'cause I don't think they will be generous, helpful, or accommodating. Or what about the government deciding they should own the license - 'cause it's necessary for the public good. *shutter* So - like I said - I am not fond of licensed process or patented organisms. That does NOT mean I don't think those licenses apply to me, nor Hey - Why should I have to pay for it? We are Americans! We _deserver_ it!! And certainly I don't want to short-change the guy who poured his life into development. Rather, I don't like how often that power and control is misused. On a side note - even if someone were to duplicate the process without obtaining a license, it is not stealing. Doing so would be wrong, unlawful, and immoral. I would not condone or support such actions. And it could even cause the loss of _potential_ revenue. Never the less, it is still not stealing. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
